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“Fair and balanced” without…

“Fair and balanced” without irony…

Actually, there were more…

Actually, there were more fouls called in literally the prior NCAAW tourney game (S. Car/Iowa). 

But....he wasn't a random 3…

But....he wasn't a random 3 star.  He had a 5 star ranking for a reason - sustained ability to be a knock down shooter.  He showed that he could do that consistently at the HS level against plus HS competition in a way that a 3-star never would have.  In other words, it's not that the NBA is interested in him because he was a 5 star, they're interested in him for the underlying reason why he was given 5 stars in the first place.

So it really is easy to see an NBA team thinking that the outlier was last year, not the HS years, and that they can be the ones to make the HS version translate to the NBA.   

 

I feel very similarly. The…

I feel very similarly. The problem for me is I don't fully know what has changed more significantly:  me, or the sport? 

Absolutely the sport is very different from when I was a 10-year-old kid, unable to miss literally a single play on live TV.  And yet, I was also a 10-year-old kid who felt he was unable to miss literally a single play on live TV (i.e. I was a fanatic, probably unreasonably so). 

Now, I would choose watching my daughter's third-grade soccer game over a UM football game 100 times out of 100. 

Both the sport and I have changed, but my change makes it hard to judge if the majority of the rest of the world also feels less invested in college football, or instead, if you asked a 10 year old today, if they'd be just as zealous as I was back then. 

I follow a lot of the…

I follow a lot of the Blazers since i live in Oregon now. And there's a lot of talk about how the Blazers trades have left Portland a lot of totally useless cap space. 

But the way free agency works, the vast majority of teams feel the same way about cap space being useless:   Detroit.  Indiana.  OKC, NOP, Charlotte. Even good teams in decent sized markets like Milwaukee, Sixers, Utah, Memphis, even Dallas. 

Cap space is useful for like 6 teams.  Two NY teams, 1.5 LA teams, Miami, maybe chicago, maybe Warriors, maybe Houston or Phoenix.  That's about it, and that's likely overstating a few of those. 

I know it's crazy, but I…

I know it's crazy, but I like the NBA and soccer....and I'll get in on an F1 or a rugby post too if someone wants to throw that out there. I mean, I'm watching Snowboard Cross right now after some curling, fergodsakes.  Let's get crazy with these non-football sports. Aren't these posts literally what OT is for ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean, let's not pretend…

I mean, let's not pretend this is an NFL thing of giving shitty people second and third chances (Meyer, Petrino, Freeze, Todd Graham, etc.)

See, I think that take is…

See, I think that take is the one that is short-sighted.

There's going to be a flurry for sure in the next 3-5 years of certain new-money schools overpaying.  It's like when a new Russian or Asian oligarch buys a soccer team.  And then after a few years, A&M boosters are gonna be like "what, I'm paying millions and we're still finishing 8-4 and losing to Bama and LSU and Georgia every year.  Why am I doing this?"  

If anything, I think this allows schools like Michigan, or Notre Dame, to stay competitive 20 years from now.  Those types of schools who were fading based on the trajectory of where recruits live, what sorts of ethical gray area they were going to have to wade deeper into to stay even in the top 10-15 recruiting rankings, let alone top 5 where you need to be to actually compete for a title, it was a losing a battle. 

Now, you'll have more kids in Georgia or Florida or Texas who are willing to suck it up and buy a winter coat with all the new found money that MICH can give them.  

 

MICH does that too, to MSU…

MICH does that too, to MSU and others.  Distinctly remember the scuttlebutt that MICH recruited Jermaine Gonzalez as a QB just so Indiana didn't have Randle El 2.0. 

Since NIL can't be…

Since NIL can't be performance-based, i would assume that includes the inability to require an athlete to play in certain games. 

Also, even if rules change, NIL is a free market of sorts, and I have to believe that the market would wipe any such requirement out - i.e. if other sponsors are not requiring playing in a meaningless bowl game, then why would a star athlete (and these are the stars, with lots of NIL options already) sign on with a sponsor that does require playing is such game.

Basically, i don't think that will be a thing. Nor should it. 

Thankfully, the rematch…

Thankfully, the rematch issue is the biggest reason Bama won't make the CFP, because there's no 2-loss Bama scenario other than Georgia in the 1 seed and Bama in the 4 seed. 

Generally the committee would contort things as much as possible to get a 2-loss Bama in.  But no one anywhere outside Tuscaloosa is going to want to watch back to back Georgia-Bama games, and ironically probably the biggest complaints would be from the SEC's own UGA.

Word.  I would think…

Word.  I would think Michigan would be (rightly) favored over every team other than Georgia, and that line would be under one score. 

There really isn't a way in which Michigan would play Bama in Round 1, but I think this team would welcome that game.  Sure it would be a tough game, but I think the team, and the public, would expect MICH to win.  And no matter what, we are CERTAINLY not getting blown out by anyone.  This ain't MSU or ND sneaking into the playoff.

If anything it feels like the offense could actually go up another level.  They hardly used Anthony, receiving Edwards, and Corum yesterday.  All was not targeted much.  JJ was in for very few plays. 

My guess is that a game…

My guess is that a game against Tarleton St is exactly the game where Juwan plays a lot of Jones and a little of each of guys like Collins and Nunez because he can still win despite tinkering.  So that he figures out exactly what he’s got.
 

So I’ll give Juwan the benefit of the doubt and assume that after this game he recognizes that Jones just isn’t a high major point guard, can’t protect the ball and can’t create for others (he was a non-shooter scoring guard in a mid major conference, which is great for him, but not remotely what this team needs him to be).

And that Nunez, whose one skill should be 3s, is not cut out for real game time. So from here you ride Collins, Bufkin, Zeb and see if the youngsters can emerge. 
 

THAT is the development that needs coaching, not a guy like Jones who is what he is and only here a year.

Yep, you’re the true judge… Yep, you’re the true judge of what’s meaningful and valuable on the board. Every post you make is insightful and profound.
They’re making up for not…

They’re making up for not having it before by making it HUGE 

You’ll just have to wait for…

You’ll just have to wait for the bottom line ticker to rotate through every 4 minutes.

The Sacramento Kings will…

The Sacramento Kings will love that defensive leap.

Why would Dave Pasch root…

Why would Dave Pasch root for MSU? I don’t know his history.

This was something I noticed…

This was something I noticed as well, so I''m glad I wasn't just imagining things.  Like several spots that were anywhere from a half yard to a yard and a half short.  Not significant on any one play, but it was just odd in how consistent it seemed.

It's cute that you think…

It's cute that you think that any voter, let alone a significant number, is going to spend the time to examine, in any one random game among ALL top 25 teams, (1) the spread, (2) total yardage, (3) number of first downs, or (4) the general tenor and flow of the game.

They will spend 20 minutes total looking at the entire ballot, see that MICH beat a 3-0 Power 5 team and MICH will move up 3-5 spots, whether they actually deserve it or not.

But speaking of deserve it, who are all these teams that are jumping us if all those teams in front lost?  MSU? Auburn? North Carolina? Fresno?  KState?  Every single one of those teams was less impressive.

The whole concept of a …

The whole concept of a “public” team is exactly that they get a lot of the general public betting on them, as compared to the sharps (sharps).  And MICH is definitely a public team.  

....,........ok. Cool, hook …

....,........ok. Cool, hook ‘em, wolverines! 

With all due respect to your…

With all due respect to your negative trolling (which, respect to your commitment to the bit), Fuck....Off...With...Your ...Shit

Come on people, just one…

Come on people, just one upvote?!? You have to imagine Sam Neill is actually playing Putin saying it!  It's gold.

Or it's just the whiskey in me.

 

Olave doesn’t return punts…

Olave doesn’t return punts....their even more highly regarded wide receiver Garrett Wilson does.

There is NO LOVE LOST when…

There is NO LOVE LOST when Northern Colorado plays Colorado!!

Dabo:  You had me nodding my…

Dabo:  You had me nodding my head vigorously, right until you mentioned "enforce recruiting practices."

 

Take USC, fine, but UCLA…

Take USC, fine, but UCLA should be a required partner.  People want to talk about UVa or UNC as a desired but unachievable ACC tandem.  UCLA is basically those schools but better....one of the best 5 public schools academically along with those other schools, and athletics that put UVa to shame and athletics history that rivals UNC in bball, and stomps UNC in football historically, plus softball and a lot of Olympic sports (track, swimming, volleyball, water polo).  UCLA is basically MICH West. 

Fewer.

-Stannis

Fewer.

-Stannis

Southgate is a nice guy and…

Southgate is a nice guy and he is taking a lot blame for the PK selections and order….which leads me to conclude that Sterling declined to take one. That has to be the case, there’s no reason they would choose Saka otherwise.  

I would bet if they win this…

I would bet if they win this game they lock up a 1 seed, barring a terrible loss in the B1G tourney, so there is is something to play for. 

A 1 versus 2 seed is pretty small difference in the grand scheme (certainly not worth further injuring your star), but hey, you'd rather be a 1 seed if you can get it.

Is drafting Baker something…

Is drafting Baker something to be giving credit for? They had the #1 pick.  Baker is...fine. He’s not a bust or anything, but he’s like a B to B+, and third best QB in that draft.

Good god, Dakich.  About 80%…

Good god, Dakich.  About 80% of what he says is pro-Michigan/anti-M’s opponent and it’s still unbearable.   You’d think M fans would be fine with announcers making negative comments about an opposing player, but I would say out of a 2 hour broadcast, almost literally 45 minutes were devoted to Marcus Carr’s flaws. For goodness sake, move on!  

I’m not here to defend Carr, but he’s a high-usage slightly above-average player with a lot of warts, there are like 15-20 players like him in the B1G, do we really need to talk about him that much, good or bad?  

There’s a fallacy in the…

There’s a fallacy in the logic here.  Football and basketball make money (at UM, most places this isn’t true), but it’s not the case that the other sports couldn’t exist without them. It’s fairly arbitrary to say that all athletic endeavors for a school should be cost neutral in the aggregate.  Why lump athletics in it’s own silo?  This is a billion dollar university industry, sports is part of it, as is student services, housing, dining, classrooms, snow removal, landscaping, and everything else that makes a student experience. 

The university could choose to invest in a particular thing that doesn’t necessarily return the cost in revenue.  Like, ya know, music programs, or science equipment, or the student union.  The university invests in an overall broad experience for its students (or more cynically, the perception that it offers a more unique experience to draw in more students/raise tuition).  

It costs basically nothing to fund the “nonrevenue” sports when you have a university with literally billions in revenue.  Cutting these sports is nothing more than PR.  

 

They’re all different tribes…

They’re all different tribes bro.  

 

I mean, Tom Izzo couldn’t

I mean, Tom Izzo couldn’t

But that’s the point, stuff…

But that’s the point, stuff changes. You know it as blue lep, or whatever it is, others of us know it as touchdowns. My parents loved pretzel bell (which I understand is back now) that I never had any clue about. I ate at this “new” sandwich shop Jimmy Johns on south U three times a week. Now it’s a national chain that kinda sucks.  
 

Stuff changes, the nostalgia that you know replaced the nostalgia that I knew, replaced the nostalgia my parents knew. My parents didn’t understand Pearl Jam, I don’t understand Billie eilish. We get old, we canna hack it, and then we die.

Yeah, man, those pro bball…

Yeah, man, those pro bball players always have a tough time getting dates.

I mean, at a certain point…

I mean, at a certain point when you’ve called the fifth play that gets a WR a step on a DB 30 yards down field and the QB air mails it by 4 yards, I don’t know what else you’re supposed to do.

The play calls all work in conjunction with setting up the chunk plays that are necessary to have a good offense. Those were set up well and then you’re left hoping your QB isn’t ass (and that’s just the deep balls, that’ll not even getting into the happy feet issue)

 

Ok, but if it’s perfectly…

Ok, but if it’s perfectly thrown, you can’t stop it even if you have a 6’2” corner.  95% of QBs don’t throw a perfect ball so someone with excellent technique is pretty damn valuable in college. 

See, why do trolls join just…

See, why do trolls join just to super subtly make a bunch of anti-UM and anti-Harbaugh comments?  It's a weird approach for sure. I get not wanting to be so obvious as to be outed but it's like so subtle that it really doesn't accomplish the purpose.

People criticize Alabama for…

People criticize Alabama for not beating anyone (and rightly so) but Oregon has literally no wins over an FBS team with fewer than 4 losses. And squeaked by a mediocre Washington team, and a bad Wash St team.
 

For whatever it’s worth, I…

For whatever it’s worth, I live in Oregon Duck country, and they had literally 5 WRs injured this week. I think shit happens to every team, and as far as season ending injuries, we’ve actually been quite ok these last several seasons. Speight  was a freak injury. Outside of that I’m thinking Grant Newsome is the last vital contributor we’ve lost for extended time, unless you want to throw Black in there, but we had lots of other talent.

Had Peppers and Higdon and Gary and Evans and Chase dinged for a few games but that all seemed pretty typical for a game of uber athletic 230-350 pound dudes throwing their bodies at each other. 

So back to your comment, is “everyone always injured”? I think we’ve been alright. 

I certainly enjoy the anti…

I certainly enjoy the anti-Sky/Ineos possibilities, in the same way that everyone roots against the Warriors.  But in Ineos internal warfare, I also am curious if Bernal just gets the green light to go and beat G. Thomas. 

For those not following, Thomas is the "team leader" of Ineos (defending champ) that in theory everyone else on the team should support no matter the impact to their own results.  But Ineos just so happens to also have a guy in Bernal that seems like he could hammer the mountains better than Thomas, so if he's ready to go on a climb and Geraint isn't, at what point do Ineos say "Eff it, just go Bernal".

The drugs make it hard to know for sure how these guys recover (and my take on doping is that everyone is [still] doing it, so to some degree the field is evened), but you do wonder if Pinot shot his wad in the Pyrenees...because if not, then certainly seems like if you were just to say "who is the best climber" Pinot is the answer, and therefore he should have the inside track if/when Alaphilippe cracks.

Do I get the Great Lakes hat…

Do I get the Great Lakes hat with season ticket purchase?  Was Bakich authorized to make that offer?  Legit, I would pay $40 for the hat, and give away the tickets to my fam (sorry, I live well over 2000 miles from A2 at this point).

Yeah, it's pretty dumb. …

Yeah, it's pretty dumb.  These are the sorts of petty little epithets that people on low IQ RCMB-type places come up with and think are really cute and clever.  "DickRod". "scUM".  "TSUN".  "Purdon't". "Pedo State".    Hurr hurr.   

I mean, there really ought…

I mean, there really ought to be some ill will toward Beilein for the timing.

im not saying he should be disavowed or become public enemy #1, we can still have a lot of appreciation and admiration for his place in Michigan b-ball history.

But he did not put Michigan in a good position timing-wise, for finding someone else, for keeping recruits, for pitching fill-in recruits like Franz or the transfers. It doesn’t override all the good he’s done, but it’s a mark against Beilein in the overall tally.

"redemption for Pearl"...

"redemption for Pearl"...

[cue Inigo from Princess Bride].  Uh, I'm....I'm not sure redemption is the word you're looking for. 

He is a cheating lying scumbag (and dipshit for thinking the parent of a recruit who went elsewhere would lie for him), hired before his show cause even expired by a generally-cheatin' university.  Him winning a national title is only preferable in a world where a coach who enables rapists wins a(nother) national title.

God help us if it's an MSU-Auburn final. 

 

Actually Bilas picked us to…

Actually Bilas picked us to the Final Four, so not really a hater.  This entire thread is about how we got a good draw, and it's pretty hard to argue that we deserve an easier run than MSU.  That seems pretty reasonable to think they should get a better draw than us.

This is the dog whistle stuff that isn't real that is stupid because it blurs the line with legit BS like the clear foul on a THREE POINT SHOT TO TIE THE GAME!  I am still a little shocked that this garbage game-changing call isn't getting more publicity.  This isn't sour grapes, that was a clear foul to tie the game.  Ok, we blew a lead and played like crap to end the game.  We still should have likely been tied with like 10 seconds to go. Both can be true.

Poole should be shooting…

Poole should be shooting three free throws to tie the game. That’s not a “they’re just better than us scenario”