I'VE HAD JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF YOU SONNY
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|8 hours 41 min ago||Novak||
DG this year reminded me of Novak when the basketball team was still struggling. I see him and think, "I wish they were winning, but I love this guy."
|8 hours 43 min ago||yeah....||
....probably interesting in an autopsy sort of way, but I agree.
|8 hours 48 min ago||Did he have turf toe?||
I thought I read that. Anyway, I hope our champion improves quickly.
|9 hours 15 min ago||They made it to the CFL via college||
So they made it to the NFL via college - they just had a stop-off in the CFL.
|9 hours 17 min ago||just not always true||
You can't enter the NBA until you're one year out of high school. You can't enter the NFL until you're three years out of high school. Jadeveon Clowney probably would have been the number one pick in the NFL draft last year, but he wasn't allowed in. I believe the CFL only requires you to be 18, but should you have to leave the country for your career?...A person can chose to do something but also be exploited. People used to chose to be sharecroppers because it was better than starving to death, but that doesn't mean they weren't exploited.
Also, do you want your response to the college player who says, "Hey, I make you guys a lot of money - Can't I have a $5,000 stipend?" to be "If you want more, you know where the door is"?
|10 hours 8 min ago||huh||
Thanks for posting that.
|11 hours 4 min ago||pretty close, though||
It is a market within the confines of what you describe - free agent players are on a market in which teams bid for their services and the players can go to the highest bidder if they so choose. But you are aware of this, yes? You seem to be willfully ignoring the greater point, which is that players in all of those leagues make salaries that are based on their value as individuals and that have at least some correlation with the profits that they make as individuals for their teams and as a group for their leagues. Historically, the players in the NFL, NBA, and MLB (and I assume the NHL, though I'm less aware of its history) all at some point demanded a bigger slice of the revenue generated by their leagues and/or teams. NCAA players have had no such moment. The dollar value of what they get has gone up, but that hasn't happened at anywhere near the rate of the increase in revenue generated by major college football. Instead, that money goes to coaches, ADs, and other sports instead of the players on whose backs the money is made...If you were an elite college player, you would trade being a college player for being a pro (NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL) player if your primary motivation was tangible benefits, right?
|11 hours 27 min ago||Why are those teams valuable?||
Tradition, stadiums, jerseys, etc., absolutely. But also because of Charles Woodson, Eddie George, Braxton Miller, etc. Harvard v. Yale used to be a big game, but it isn't nationally anymore. Why? Because those schools are perceived has having inferior football players now.
|11 hours 38 min ago||six!||
That doesn't change much in my eyes.
|14 hours 48 min ago||"It's called capitalism."||
Why do NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB players all get paid at a market rate? Also, I highly doubt the Michigan AD would relish being compared to an employer.
|15 hours 22 min ago||That will fall off eventually though||
Look at how many people are already pulling some level of support from Michigan football due to the struggles of the past several years. I also suspect that Tate Forcier jerseys were purchased when he was in his on-the-cover-of-Sports-Illustrated honeymoon phase.
|15 hours 49 min ago||"People will always buy the QB at Michigan's jersey."||
Not true if the talent falls off. At the risk of bagging on the guy, imagine a world in which Michigan fields ten straight Nick Sheridans. You'd see a lot fewer jerseys sold than you do now with the DGs and Denards of the world playing QB for the Wolverines.
|15 hours 51 min ago||It is voluntary||
He also pretty much has to go to college to showcase his talents for the NFL. I can think of one guy who I've seen in 25 years of watching football who made it to the NFL from somewhere other than college...There is no question that college gives DG something. The question is whether it is a fair amount.
|16 hours 33 min ago||You can say the same thing about NFL players, though||
How much would Tony Romo draw in ratings if he played in the CFL instead of for the Cowboys? It would be very different, yet we don't find it unfair that he makes millions playing for Dallas...You can say, well, Romo earned the right to play in Dallas instead of Montreal b/c of his talents, but you can say the same thing re: Gardner and Michigan/Arkansas State.
|17 hours 33 min ago||Bill Synder is a hell of a coach||
KSU was terrible before he got there. There aren't a lot of coaches who could do what he did, though my impression as a former Kansas resident is that KSU doesn't let academics get in the way of fielding its best possible football team.
|1 day 12 hours ago||Nebraska v. KSU||
That will be a great game for people who miss the late '90s Big 12.
|2 days 14 hours ago||Hmmm...||
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with Shoe on this one.
|3 days 3 hours ago||agree re: "concern trolling"||
It's something you can throw out any time you've received any criticism for anything, rightfully or not. It allows you to skip the part where you think about whether the other person has a point.
|3 days 3 hours ago||upvoting and downvoting||
I don't remember that in particular, but your more general point is an example of how upvoting and downvoting are no silver bullet.
|3 days 11 hours ago||Assuming that's true...||
...it does change my view of things. I genuinely wasn't being cute when I said that I might be wrong in my memory of the situation.
I stand by my comment about the absurdity of this reality, but I'm also still here.
|3 days 11 hours ago||I may well have misunderstood something||
I thought that Brian was really upset when people called the recruit young, he called them out, and they then responed by saying, "You're the one who put a sixteen year old kid on the front of your well-read blog! You didn't think this - or something worse - would happen?!"
Maybe that's not what happened. I'm not being cute when I say that.
As far as being melodramatic, we're already talking in serious tones about the future of a blog about football! Of course I'm being melodramatic! The whole situation is melodramatic! It's absurd!
|3 days 11 hours ago||I have no problem with locking it||
And I may have missed a good bit of back and forth about certain topics. I didn't see anything worth banning those two guys in that thread, but I (obviously) don't know what I missed.
|3 days 12 hours ago||It's the same concern||
Labeling someone a jerk because they disagree with an employee of the blog could be one form of not distinguishing between valid criticism and those who disagree for its own sake.
|3 days 12 hours ago||we'll see||
Don't constantly complain about the people I hire. If you want to send me an email, fine. Publicly crapping on the other guys who write for us is filed under jerk.
What does this mean? See the now-locked thread from yesterday when a very large number of people expressed what I (FWIW) thought was a legitimate concern in a respectful way (some admitted expressed it in a not respectful way). Does that equal "crapping" on the OP?
|3 days 12 hours ago||tangential thought:||
Best wishes to you and the UM wife! I hope things are going as well as possible.
|3 days 12 hours ago||My concern is this:||
The position "All criticism is inherently about the negativey of the critic and an example of haters gonna hate" is a very lazy one to take. Brian can take it, of course, and I'm on his side (as best as I can tell - I don't know what the hell happens on Twitter) the vast majority of the time. But that doesn't mean that all of the criticism that's ever been leveled any particular facet of the blog has been offbase.
|3 days 12 hours ago||Have things...||
...really gone downhill more than one would expect when the football team has yet another frustrating season? I've sometimes slipped into nostalgia about the good ol' days on the blog only to to quickly remember that my nostalgia was misplaced.
|4 days 3 hours ago||what was taken down?||
|4 days 5 hours ago||here is where I think you miss something, though||
I, for one, am not worried that you are a bad dude. But I do worry about what a bad dude might be prompted to do with information from a recruit.
|4 days 6 hours ago||that's good||
Here is a friendly suggestion: posting the whole thing ran the risk of people perceiving McDowell as rude - which wasn't your intent, I realize. Just saying "I haven't heard much from him, and you guys know what I think when that happens" would have accomplished the same thing as posting the conversation but not opened McDowell up to criticism. I think you don't want to run the risk of ever making a guy look bad even when it's not your intent. People take thus stuff way too seriously - see all the negativity that went Hand's way after he committed. Better to open guys up to that as little as possible.