I too am giving up my tickets this year. I love Michigan football but I found myself not making very many games. With stubhub, it's easy to get tickets for a game that you want to attend without being a season ticket holder.
I was not as smart or lucky enough to make my money back on selling the tickets and don't want the hassle again.
I'll just watch the game on my dvr with a delay so that I can skip the endless commercials. The sad state of current broadcasts portends that approximately HALF of the game is commercials. I can easily start viewing the recording 90 minutes after kickoff and finish the game live after skipping all the bs.
Not typical at all. Something else bad happened to him. Speculation abound but he likely suffered an arterial injury and/or compartment syndrome. He was admitted the day of injury which is also extremely unusual. He's reportedly had multiple surgeries. I honestly can't think of a reason That would've required a 38 day stay besides the the above or an infection that developed along the way.
"Scott's the best back Michigan has faced by some distance and will test the linebackers on occasion. ". Ummmmmm, Saquon Barkley seems pretty good to me.
What you describe is the definition of a sprained ankle. You don't need surgery, and stay away from anyone who says you do. Atfl tear will heal on its own.
Dr j.
I can't speak for TAMU specifically but I have a quite a bit of experince as a team physician both in college and pros. For every team I've ever worked with, the doc has to clear an athlete. The trainers are there to assist and apply treatment. I've never seen a coach ask a trainer for clearance. They certainly will ask them if the athlete will be able to return, what is the injury, etc, but clearance has always come from the doc directly to the coach or indirectly through the trainer. It my repsonsiblilty and my license on the line if I mistreat an athlete, not the trainers. Even in high school this applies.
With the Morris incident, I believe Dr. Miller didn't actually see the play that concussed Shane. I haven't spoken to him so I don't know the story for sure but I didn't see him get evaluated by the medical team. Hoke thought he came out for a minor leg injury and not a concussion. The medical team never cleared him to go back because they were unaware of the injury, same with Hoke. A minor leg injury wouldn't need to be eval'd and cleared routinely. This is the reason behind installing a medical team member in the coaches box, so that a play is not missed. Believe me when you are on the sideline, standing behind 80 rather larger football players and coaches, it can be hard to see every play and injury. I'm 6'4" and still have a hard time seeing the play sometimes. I also think Dr. Miller was evaluating another injured player at the time and had his back turned.
Unless TAMU is totally different from
USC, U of M, Dodgers, Lakers, Kings, Ducks, Angels, Pirates, PGA, then this guy's story is seriously exaggerated. Seems more like a disgruntled former employee.
As stated by others, it would be legal suicide for teams to do anything other than rely on their physician to make medical decisions on their athletes.
I have never felt any pressure from a coach about allowing an athlete to return, and if I ever did, I would ignore it.
Ironically the only time I've ever been pressured to return an athlete was by the head trainer himself for the Dodgers. I refused to clear the injured player and he was furious. Luckily Joe Torrey is a great guy and had my back. (Turns out the player did have a very serious and season ending injury.)
The point is, it's not up to the trainers, it's the doc's responsiblity.
No still no one has it better than us.
Naples Florida. I prefer Italy in the spring/summer. Just working mixed with a little golf for a long weekend. I always see plenty of Michigan fans down in Naples to make it even more enjoyable.
I have a friend who played in the NFL and at Penn St with Zordich and remains good friends with him still. Of course he said he is a great guy but that should be taken with a grain of salt. FWIW, he has very high character, integrity, and intensity. He also has great connections in Ohio that should help tremendously with recruiting. Of note Pelini definitely wanted to keep on the YSU staff. Durkin is the main connection bringing Zordich in. Harbaugh has obviously signed off on it.
I first met Stuart Scott in Allegheny Hospital in Pittsburgh before a MNF. He came in with abdominal pain and general malaise. During the surgery we discovered it was much worse than appendicitis.
He was always brave and a stand up guy. I will never forget his positive attitude and fight.
This happened in 2007. He wasn't expected to live more than 2 years. I will always remember his fight and victory against cancer.
In Ohio they think he's coming. Of note, they are to the point now that they WANT him to come. They don't want Michigan to be as bad as we have been. They are certainly not afraid at all.
1. Yes, this is my favorite sporting event of the year. March Madness is great but I would only enjoy that more than the Masters if Michigan won the whole thing.
2. My most memorable Masters was the 1995 Ben Crenshaw after his mentor Harvey Penick had died. He broke down on the green after he sunk the putt.
Greatest shot, Tiger 2005 16th green chip in.
3. I want Rory to win. I'm looking for some younger guys to get behind and breakout to winning several tournaments a year.
My two picks to win would be Adam Scott or Rory McIlroy.
Getting Tom Brady involved in this program is such a great opportunity. He is an excellent speaker, teacher, and motivator. Everyone I know that has played with him has told me the same thing. I fully agree with keeping him as involved as he has time for.
I went to high school with Drew Henson and played varsity with him (he was a year behind me). When I was at Michigan, my freshman year with football ended nicely ('97). Sophomore year I of course wanted Henson to play because he was my friend, my teammate, and I knew first-hand what a phenomenal athlete he was. I didn't dislike Brady, I just wanted Drew to play.
I still remember the last game I watched Brady play at Michigan. We had made the trip to Miami to play Alabama and a certain Shaun Alexander. We were trailing most of the game but Brady kept leading us back and refused to let us lose. I remember walking out of the stadium after the win and marveling about how good Brady really was.
In my professional life, I had the privilege to train underneath Brady's orthopaedic surgeon and I got to meet him and talk to him a few times as a patient. He is very humble, friendly, and will talk with you about anything. There are many stories about him and Giselle being very kind to all the medical staff and having them over to their house. He remembers everyone's name. I had a Michigan tie he appreciated during office visits and even knew the name of my high school when I told him I knew Drew. He also played most of the 2010 season with a fracture in his foot. (This was not publicly disclosed until after the season and surgery)
Everything about Tom Brady being a hard worker, smart, team player, tough, and competitor is absolutely true as far as I know. I hope he continues to be an asset to this program.
I'm not sure he will have the time to be a coach for us in the future (he just built a small house in Cali), but being around from time to time as a consultant would certainly help.
I let my patients back to full contact at around 5 months. Usually their shoulder is feeling pretty good by 2 weeks. Takes a lot of physical therapy to get the motion back.
Eric
I can't take another minute. I'll just have watch the youtubes when it finally airs. This is more softball than I planned on watching for my entire life.
Pistons taught Jordan what it would actually take to win championships. Bad Boys are my all time favorites. Bulls were a bunch of cry babies and deserved the whooping they got.
Injuries very similar. Fitz had an open fracture as well.
Risk of infection is very low. This happened in a clean environment. Usually these are from car/motorcycle wrecks or farm accidents still with quick antibiotic administration have a low infection rate.
This injury is very similar to Fitz, open tibia fracture. Treatment is a titanium rod inserted through the knee, across the fracture to the ankle. ORIF as stated above.
With regards the severity, this injury is easier to rehab from than a ligamentous injury (Lattimore). This injury may look gruesome but it actually has a very good prognosis.
I would expect him back next season. Fitz is on track for a return this fall.
I didn't read all the posts but' I'm an orthopaedic surgeon who specializes in sports med. Typically an active 35 yo would get the ACL reconstructed. Under 40 I still recommend using an autograft. Cadaver could be an option however there is a higher failure rate under 40. Unless you are a professional football player, there is essentially no diference in hamstring vs BTB in terms of outcome. They each have their advantages and disadvantages. Some surgeons have a preference based on their skills or outcomes. I personally do whatever the patients wants after they have all the information. I also send all patients to "prehab" prior to surgery to relieve swelling, gain full range of motion and strength. This is essential to a good outcome. Good luck. If you are in Ann Arbor, Bruce Miller is excellent.
I'm sorry but as an engineer and a surgeon I can't let this one go. Absolutely ridiculous.
Just as there is no evidence that taping prevents sprains, there is no evidence that taping causes bones to fracture in a different location than if there was no tape.
Also FWIW, I would much rather fracture my tibia mid-shaft than have an ankle fracture dislocation (Woolfolk). Ankles are much harder to return to previous level of performance.
Looking at the video, I would guess that was an open tibia fracture. If that is the case, #1 definitely better than a ligamentous knee injury as he should be back for next season #2 that would explain why he's in surgery already. Open fractures are best treated ASAP. However it is obviously a horrible injury to have, and he has a lot of work ahead of him to come back.
-Eric
(Sports surgeon)
As was covered in a previous post. Those of us at the ND game this year experienced loud music and an obnoxiously amplified band right up and through the formation and any audible or called sets. It only stopped right at the snap. I strongly disagree that Michigan stadium is more offensive in regards to the music and I've been to plenty this year. ND was totally classless.
I do agree that we should shake hands with opposing teams before running to the student section. I've watched and usually more than a few players do that before running over.
Cortisone is not appropiate treatment for this injury. In addition, it takes hours to days for the affect to be felt. If you've noticed relief from any injection instantly, it wasn't the steriod, it was the numbing medicine it was mixed with.
There is a huge difference between cubital tunnel syndrome (a chronic nerve compression syndrome) and a direct impact to the nerve itself. The direct impact causes a neuropraxia and is treated entirely differently.
There is absolutely no "quick fix" or injection or therapy that will effectly allow him to return to a game any faster from the sideline.
The unlar nerve controls the the main flexors of the ring and small fingers, however it also controls the intrinsic muscles of the hand for all fingers including the thumb. (these muscles control the side to side movement of your fingers and thumb strength) In summary, damage to the unlar nerve affects the entire hand.
He most likely has a contusion to his ulnar nerve. There is no quick treatment or recovery for this. You just have to give it time to recover. Injury to this nerve results in numbness and weakness in your hand. The duration and severity of the symptoms vary greatly depending on the degree of impact and location. Sometimes recovery can be very quick, sometimes several days. You could see him grab his wrist and hand when it happened, that's because when this nerve is impacted hard enough, it feels like a knife has been stuck in your hand, not very conducive to playing quarterback. The only treatment is time.
it's unusual for us to have morphine at a game. toradol is much more common and sometimes used. first and foremost if the knee is dislocated, it needs to be reduced asap. as stated before, the popliteal artery is at risk. usually after the knee is reduced, the pain is much more tolerable. then we place the knee in an immobilizer and apply ice. players usually players do not require an injection of pain medicine. if xrays are available they are taken.
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I almost spit out my coffee when the big ten west crown scrolled onto my screen! as always well done.
Yes, Illinois is actually the highest ranked Big Ten team at #4 in the NET.
I too am giving up my tickets this year. I love Michigan football but I found myself not making very many games. With stubhub, it's easy to get tickets for a game that you want to attend without being a season ticket holder.
I was not as smart or lucky enough to make my money back on selling the tickets and don't want the hassle again.
I'll just watch the game on my dvr with a delay so that I can skip the endless commercials. The sad state of current broadcasts portends that approximately HALF of the game is commercials. I can easily start viewing the recording 90 minutes after kickoff and finish the game live after skipping all the bs.
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not typical at all
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I'm an ortho surgeon,
it is also called cubitus varus or in layman's terms, a gunstock deformity.
google images will show you many harbaugh imitators.
edit previous post should've said varus malunion not valgus.
Dr j.
Dr j.
Hail yes.
I can't speak for TAMU specifically but I have a quite a bit of experince as a team physician both in college and pros. For every team I've ever worked with, the doc has to clear an athlete. The trainers are there to assist and apply treatment. I've never seen a coach ask a trainer for clearance. They certainly will ask them if the athlete will be able to return, what is the injury, etc, but clearance has always come from the doc directly to the coach or indirectly through the trainer. It my repsonsiblilty and my license on the line if I mistreat an athlete, not the trainers. Even in high school this applies.
With the Morris incident, I believe Dr. Miller didn't actually see the play that concussed Shane. I haven't spoken to him so I don't know the story for sure but I didn't see him get evaluated by the medical team. Hoke thought he came out for a minor leg injury and not a concussion. The medical team never cleared him to go back because they were unaware of the injury, same with Hoke. A minor leg injury wouldn't need to be eval'd and cleared routinely. This is the reason behind installing a medical team member in the coaches box, so that a play is not missed. Believe me when you are on the sideline, standing behind 80 rather larger football players and coaches, it can be hard to see every play and injury. I'm 6'4" and still have a hard time seeing the play sometimes. I also think Dr. Miller was evaluating another injured player at the time and had his back turned.
Unless TAMU is totally different from
USC, U of M, Dodgers, Lakers, Kings, Ducks, Angels, Pirates, PGA, then this guy's story is seriously exaggerated. Seems more like a disgruntled former employee.
As stated by others, it would be legal suicide for teams to do anything other than rely on their physician to make medical decisions on their athletes.
I have never felt any pressure from a coach about allowing an athlete to return, and if I ever did, I would ignore it.
Ironically the only time I've ever been pressured to return an athlete was by the head trainer himself for the Dodgers. I refused to clear the injured player and he was furious. Luckily Joe Torrey is a great guy and had my back. (Turns out the player did have a very serious and season ending injury.)
The point is, it's not up to the trainers, it's the doc's responsiblity.
-Eric
2 more great future Wolverines.
Naples Florida. I prefer Italy in the spring/summer. Just working mixed with a little golf for a long weekend. I always see plenty of Michigan fans down in Naples to make it even more enjoyable.
That certainly looks like season ending torn achilles tendon.
I have a friend who played in the NFL and at Penn St with Zordich and remains good friends with him still. Of course he said he is a great guy but that should be taken with a grain of salt. FWIW, he has very high character, integrity, and intensity. He also has great connections in Ohio that should help tremendously with recruiting. Of note Pelini definitely wanted to keep on the YSU staff. Durkin is the main connection bringing Zordich in. Harbaugh has obviously signed off on it.
He was always brave and a stand up guy. I will never forget his positive attitude and fight.
This happened in 2007. He wasn't expected to live more than 2 years. I will always remember his fight and victory against cancer.
RIP.
In Ohio they think he's coming. Of note, they are to the point now that they WANT him to come. They don't want Michigan to be as bad as we have been. They are certainly not afraid at all.
1. Yes, this is my favorite sporting event of the year. March Madness is great but I would only enjoy that more than the Masters if Michigan won the whole thing.
2. My most memorable Masters was the 1995 Ben Crenshaw after his mentor Harvey Penick had died. He broke down on the green after he sunk the putt.
Greatest shot, Tiger 2005 16th green chip in.
3. I want Rory to win. I'm looking for some younger guys to get behind and breakout to winning several tournaments a year.
My two picks to win would be Adam Scott or Rory McIlroy.
Thanks for creating and sharing those. Now my office computer is ready for football season.
I have a good picture but can''t post it.
Marshall was originally committed to Ohio.
Eric
I can't take another minute. I'll just have watch the youtubes when it finally airs. This is more softball than I planned on watching for my entire life.
Eric
Pistons taught Jordan what it would actually take to win championships. Bad Boys are my all time favorites. Bulls were a bunch of cry babies and deserved the whooping they got.
http://games.espn.go.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/en/entry?entryID=…
Go Blue
Looking forward to it. Money flowing in fast.
He was correct. It's an ORIF using an IMN.
Injuries very similar. Fitz had an open fracture as well.
Risk of infection is very low. This happened in a clean environment. Usually these are from car/motorcycle wrecks or farm accidents still with quick antibiotic administration have a low infection rate.
This injury is very similar to Fitz, open tibia fracture. Treatment is a titanium rod inserted through the knee, across the fracture to the ankle. ORIF as stated above.
With regards the severity, this injury is easier to rehab from than a ligamentous injury (Lattimore). This injury may look gruesome but it actually has a very good prognosis.
I would expect him back next season. Fitz is on track for a return this fall.
MgoSurgeon
I didn't read all the posts but' I'm an orthopaedic surgeon who specializes in sports med. Typically an active 35 yo would get the ACL reconstructed. Under 40 I still recommend using an autograft. Cadaver could be an option however there is a higher failure rate under 40. Unless you are a professional football player, there is essentially no diference in hamstring vs BTB in terms of outcome. They each have their advantages and disadvantages. Some surgeons have a preference based on their skills or outcomes. I personally do whatever the patients wants after they have all the information. I also send all patients to "prehab" prior to surgery to relieve swelling, gain full range of motion and strength. This is essential to a good outcome. Good luck. If you are in Ann Arbor, Bruce Miller is excellent.
Interesting that this chart projects Illinois at home to be more difficult than Ohio in Columbus. I'm not sure I agree with that one.
Hope he recovers for NCST. He was unsteady but at least didn't look like he lost consiousness. Tough injury.
-Eric
(Sports surgeon)
I do agree that we should shake hands with opposing teams before running to the student section. I've watched and usually more than a few players do that before running over.
Has anyone in the know actually confirmed what the official policy is? Ace?
I understand giving his spot away to someone else if he takes other visits but as far as I know, we haven't filled his spot.
He is still a good player and could help our team out, if he's looked around and confirmed we are the best fit for him, why not at least talk to him?
He has been through a lot this year and everyone should cut him some slack IMO.
Cortisone is not appropiate treatment for this injury. In addition, it takes hours to days for the affect to be felt. If you've noticed relief from any injection instantly, it wasn't the steriod, it was the numbing medicine it was mixed with.
There is a huge difference between cubital tunnel syndrome (a chronic nerve compression syndrome) and a direct impact to the nerve itself. The direct impact causes a neuropraxia and is treated entirely differently.
There is absolutely no "quick fix" or injection or therapy that will effectly allow him to return to a game any faster from the sideline.
The unlar nerve controls the the main flexors of the ring and small fingers, however it also controls the intrinsic muscles of the hand for all fingers including the thumb. (these muscles control the side to side movement of your fingers and thumb strength) In summary, damage to the unlar nerve affects the entire hand.
He most likely has a contusion to his ulnar nerve. There is no quick treatment or recovery for this. You just have to give it time to recover. Injury to this nerve results in numbness and weakness in your hand. The duration and severity of the symptoms vary greatly depending on the degree of impact and location. Sometimes recovery can be very quick, sometimes several days. You could see him grab his wrist and hand when it happened, that's because when this nerve is impacted hard enough, it feels like a knife has been stuck in your hand, not very conducive to playing quarterback. The only treatment is time.
-ericmj
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it's unusual for us to have morphine at a game. toradol is much more common and sometimes used. first and foremost if the knee is dislocated, it needs to be reduced asap. as stated before, the popliteal artery is at risk. usually after the knee is reduced, the pain is much more tolerable. then we place the knee in an immobilizer and apply ice. players usually players do not require an injection of pain medicine. if xrays are available they are taken.