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|5 hours 10 min ago||Quinn||
I don't think the lack of experience at elite college programs is a big concern. Quinn does have the two seasons as Florida DC. Plus if you look at some other NFL assistants who have been successful in college ball in recent years, Bill O'Brien coached at places like Duke and Georgia Tech before going to the Patriots--not exactly big-time winning programs. Jim Mora Jr. had literally no college coaching experience before going to UCLA, except for a stint as a GA with Washington in 1984.
The lack of local/regional ties is a knock, no way around that, but it's not a huge fault in the grand scheme of things.
Quinn will certainly have opportunities for HC jobs in the NFL. So if he strongly prefers the NFL, then yeah, Michigan probably doesn't have a shot. But he did leave the NFL to take the Florida job in 2010, so maybe he's open to both? (Granted, Florida was his first DC position--but he was Assistant HC at Seattle before he left; I don't know, but it seems likely Quinn could have gotten a DC gig in the pros). It looks like HC salaries in the NFL are mostly in the $4-6 million range, so he would be expensive but I think M could afford him.
|8 hours 25 min ago||Brandon||
No, this is cynical manipulation of a PR fiasco by an athletic director determined to save his own skin. He should have let Hoke announce the changes.
|19 hours 29 min ago||Baldwin||
It does seem that if we want to go the proven-winner-at-lower-level route, there are better candidates (like Stitt or Bohl)
|22 hours 23 min ago||Illinois||
Illinois should have given up years ago.
|1 day 34 min ago||This better be true||
Playing with my strong desire to see Dave Brandon booted out on his ass is like playing with emotions.
|1 day 59 min ago||Brandon||
Yeah, sacrificing Hoke to keep the wolves at bay is Brandon's obvious move. But can he follow that up with a big-time hire? I doubt it, but I am pretty confident we will see him try.
|1 day 1 hour ago||Hoke||
I wish he would just admit he was wrong, apologize, and probably resign. Being a lousy football coach is one thing. I hate seeing him sacrifice his integrity like this.
|1 day 3 hours ago||Hoke||
Recruiting isn't necessary to coach defensive linemen in the CFL.
|1 day 5 hours ago||Hudspeth||
This guy looks pretty good. The sustained success at two previous stops is impressive.
|1 day 5 hours ago||Coach options||
You are right about NFL assistants--you might wind up with a Charlie Weis just as easily as a Bill O'Brien, and if the guy does succeeed you risk losing him to the League in short order. But it just seems to me that's where our best options are at the moment. If there was a Charlie Strong or Brian Kelly out there in the college game, it would be one thing. But I don't see one. Either we are taking a real chance on a guy like Bohl, Stitt, or Doeren, or else we have to try and pluck a guy from a comparable or better situation (e.g., Jones, Miles, etc.).
|1 day 7 hours ago||Coaches||
Thanks for putting these together, alum96, and nice job.
Do you plan to look at any NFL assistants? There are several that seem like promising candidates to me: Dan Quinn (Seattle DC), Adam Gase (Denver OC), John McDaniels (New England OC), Jack Del Rio (Denver DC).
I do think Michigan's roster is in much better shape now than it was in 2010, so I think the M job is less of a rebuiding project and more of a "come to A2 and win immediately" type of challenge. I could see that appealing more to a guy out of the pros than some of these college turnaround artists.
|1 day 22 hours ago||Kitten thread||
Which kitten thread are you referring to?
|2 days 1 hour ago||The OP is incorrect but he||
The OP is incorrect but he doesn't deserve to be called an "idiot" or otherwise personally insulted. (Unless he really is Dave Brandon)
|2 days 1 hour ago||Tigers||
Bless you boys!
|2 days 2 hours ago||Some others||
Some similar moves:
--John Cooper going from a good Arizona State program to OSU
-- Mike Price leaving Washington State for Alabama (sort of)
-- Mack Brown leaving UNC for Texas
-- Gary Barnett leaving Northwestern for Colorado
These are all situations in which a coach left a mid-level program that he had built into a power for a traditionally superior program that was down at the time.
|2 days 2 hours ago||Tuberville?||
Left Ole Miss for Auburn; at the time, Ole Miss was pretty good and Auburn wasn't.
|2 days 3 hours ago||Morris was unsteady on his||
Morris was unsteady on his feet and it looked obvious that he was incapable of protecting himself. Even if the staff might not have realized he had a concussion (which is pretty dubious to begin with) they should still have realized the danger and taken Morris out immediately. And then I really don't see how putting Morris back in after Gardner's helmet came off is at all explicable.
|2 days 4 hours ago||The pants are not immaculate.||
The pants are not immaculate. Pleats are way out of style.
|2 days 4 hours ago||Ravens game on--gonna scout||
Ravens game on--gonna scout our coaching candidate.
|2 days 4 hours ago||Harbaughs||
From L to R: Jim, John, Jack
Not pictured: Les Miles
|2 days 4 hours ago||Hoke||
Dude left player in the game after an obvious concussion. Then took him out--and put him BACK into the game a few moment later.
Can't have that.
|2 days 5 hours ago||Rich Rod||
It seemed to me that Rich Rod's recruiting problems were mostly on the defensive side of the ball. Yeah, I know he didn't bring in enough OL, but when he left we had Lewan, Schofield, Molk, Omameh, and Barnum--which was an awesome line in his offense. It's impossible to know what kinds of OL classes he might have brought in for 2010 and 2011 if he hadn't been in danger of being fired the whole time.
I think RR's problems recruiting defenive talent had more to do with his defenses being laughably awful than system issues. If he'd have hired a good DC and put respectable defenses on the field and won more games, the recruits would have come.
|2 days 5 hours ago||Nussmeier||
I don't think it's necessary to speculate about whether Hoke is "handcuffing" Nussmeier in order to suggest Nussmeier as a plausible candidate. Nussmeier was very close to being offered the Washington job, and will undoubtedly be a head coach somewhere soon regardless.
I realize that Nussmeier is currently in charge of UM's terrible offense, so the reaction is sort of like, "well if he can't do a good job with the offense as OC, then why would be put him in charge of the whole team?" But he's been a good OC other places; his offensive coaching skills really do not concern me.
What does concern me is, this Michigan team is playing way beaneath its talent level. There is quite obviously something amiss with the mental state/chemistrry/intagibles. I don't know what it is. But one possible explanation could be all the dynamics with Borges being fired and Nussmeier--who everybody had to see as probably being more qualified for Hoke's job than Hoke himself--being brought in, possibly at the behest of our egomaniacal Athletic Dictator. If that is indeed the problem, we may just need to totally clean house.
|2 days 5 hours ago||Freeze||
Hugh Freeze also came off like a major sleaze in The Blind Side. No thanks.
|2 days 5 hours ago||Speaking of CMU...||
Narduzzi has proven to be a good Big Ten coordinator. But that doesn't mean he can run a program. Look what happened when Mike DeBord coached at CMU.
|2 days 7 hours ago||Coaches||
I don't see Petersen leaving UW after just one year. Plus, leaving Boise for Seattle is one thing; leaving the Pacific Northwest for SE Michigan is quite another.
I realize Schiano failed in the pros, but so have several other good college coaches: Saban, Carroll (pre-USC), Spurrier. I don't know much about Schiano--just that he turned Rutgers into a good team, then went to the League and sucked. But if that's the only knock on him, I don't know why he isn't a good candidate.
|2 days 7 hours ago||My list||
-- Jim Harbaugh
-- John Harbaugh
-- Greg Schiano
-- Lovie Smith
-- Adam Gase
-- Dan Quinn
-- Craig Bohl
-- Dan Mullen
I suppose my preference would be a rising NFL assistant; I thought Bill O'Brien was the best coach in the B1G when he was at Penn State.
I don't know if Nussmeier is a viable candidate or not. He would have been a year ago, but now I don't know what the dynamics of a Nussmeier promotion might do.
|2 days 8 hours ago||Schiano||
Exactly. From what I have been able to gather poking around the internet, Schiano is currently out of a job and was last seen consulting with the Arkansas Razorbacks or something. I'd have to think he'd have serious interest in a high-profile college job.
|2 days 17 hours ago||Adam would need a huge raise||
Adam would need a huge raise to transcribe press conferences from Orgeron.
|2 days 20 hours ago||Dan Quinn, Defensive||
Dan Quinn, Defensive Coordinator of the Seattle Seahawks.