"You can't make me," Hoke said. "You're not my father."
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- First down yards gained
- Third downs faced per scoring drive average
- Third down conversion rate by distance
- Completion % coupled with YPP and YAC
- QB sacks and hurries
- Offensive penalty yards per game
- Offensive penalty yards that result in 3rd and longer than 8
- And of course, turnovers committed by offense
|20 hours 57 min ago||Have you considered that||
Have you considered that maybe Brady Hoke would not welcome advice and counsel from others?
My opinion is Hoke is in over his head at Michigan. That doesn't mean he's incapable of having success. But stubborness is a trait of his. I doubt very much he has reached out to the people you cite in your diary. I doubt very much he would accept unsolicited advice, even if offered from well-respected people in the profession.
And that's a shame, because very few people succeed in this world without a least some mentoring from those who went before them.
At this point it's probably too late. But had Hoke come into Michigan in 2010 with a more open attitude about soliciting and taking mentoring from others, he may well have transitioned better to the role of Michigan HC.
|21 hours 8 min ago||So this is more your style?||
So this is more your style? :-)
|22 hours 4 min ago||LB||
And Yost invented the linebacker position, fergodsakes!
|1 day 8 min ago||Turning the corner||
This 2014 team either flat-lines, goes south, or inflects upwards.
If there's a point where it inflects upwards, I'd like to see it.
I would love to see them against Rutgers and think, "Ah ... they're getting it."
Waiting for that moment is getting harder and harder ... but it's not yet impossible for me.
|2 days 14 hours ago||Bravo. Reasoned thinking;||
Bravo. Reasoned thinking; measured delivery.
I'm being completely sincere.
There's been a lot of overheated and poorly resoned posts of late around here. It's good to see a post like this.
|4 days 4 hours ago||Operating on the theory that||
Operating on the theory that a person has a finite number of cuss words in their system in one lifetime ... I will be a choir boy from this point forward. Yesterday I used up every one in my reserve.
|4 days 4 hours ago||Brandon exhibits hubris.||
Brandon exhibits hubris. Hubris comes from excessive pride.
I think Hoke is in over his head and his base emotion is fear; from fear comes many reactions ... stubborness being one. Anger is another, and we've seen some flashes of that from Hoke lately.
Michigan is too big a program for Hoke. No shame in that. But finding a graceful exit is difficult. And after yesterday, an exit is assured; graceful it will not be.
|4 days 4 hours ago||Funk||
Funk - noun (1) cowering fear; state of great fright or terror (2) a dejected mood.
The name is apropos.
|4 days 21 hours ago||This||
We suck at it. Just suck. I doubt a case can be made there's a schematic advantage in using it. Certainly not how Michigan performs when under center.
|5 days 54 min ago||Progress?||
The main thing I wanted to see this year was a steady improvement over the course of the this season
Yes, that's what everyone wants to see.
Trouble is, I'm not sure we're seeing it.
We're seeing some general improvement in areas this year over last.
We're not seeing consistent improvement game to game this year.
Today's game against Minnesota will be another set of data points. The final score is really besides the point, provided it's a W for Michigan. Look for signs of fundamental progress on the offense -- no turnovers given, no stupid penalties, productive use of timeouts, first down yard production, third down conversion execution.
|5 days 1 hour ago||Lollygaggin' Around||
All this reminds me of that scene in "Bull Durham" where the manager goes into the shower and heaves a bunch of baseball bats and starts yelling at the players.
It's time someone do that here.
|5 days 1 hour ago||Watching the Michigan State||
Watching the Michigan State game ...
Michigan State just ran a run fake to the left side of the line, then Connor Cook turned around and threw a beautiful pass to catch his receiver in stride in the endzone.
Yeah, Wyoming, etc. Still, a thing of beauty. It was like Connor Cook didn't waste any time looking for his receiver -- he knew his receiver would be where he was supposed to be and put the ball exactly where it needed to be.
Not trying to pump up MSU ... but credit where credit due ... that was a pretty play.
|5 days 3 hours ago||Desmond Howard||
He said, paraphrasing: "When I go to a practice I can tell what guys want to be great. When I went to a Michigan practice I didn't see one guy -- except for maybe Jabrill Peppers -- that wanted to be great."
That's a damning statement.
Desmond Howard could be wrong about this. His impression could be incorrect.
But if true, then it suggests a degree of complacency ... and that's a fundamental problem.
|5 days 23 hours ago||Fundamental Technique||
I just feel like there are actual things to complain about, mostly that the team does not look good from a fundamental technique standpoint in many instances
That may be the most damning criticism of all.
What might explain that? Serious question.
|1 week 22 hours ago||Yes ... provided earnings||
Yes ... provided earnings kept up with inflation. Back then they did (more or less), nowadays not so much.
But yeah, they probably bought a house for $20K or less. Back in 1969 my parents bought a farmhouse and 70 acres in Howell for $50K. At that time my father was only earning $13K a year, so it was a stretch. We survived.
I realize my "It was in the Ford administration, not Carter" comment above may have appeared dickish ... refuting a minor point and being contrarian. I didn't mean it to come across like that. I was more recalling a rather vivid memory from my early years. The whole "Whip Inflation Now" thing by Ford was a pathetic response to a real problem and was mocked mercilessly on Saturday Night Live. Carter's handling of inflation was no better.
|1 week 23 hours ago||However her glasses and quiet||
However her glasses and quiet nature have kept them nothing more than old friends.
Not that's there's anything wrong with quiet women in glasses, of course.
If MaryAnn from Gilligan's Island wore glasses, there'd be a whole generation of men who were way into the look. :-)
|1 week 23 hours ago||The WIP thing was during the||
The WIP thing was during the Ford admnistration.
I'm old enough to remember it.
My first mortgage was for 13%. That was in 1985 ... the inflation during the Ford administration was bad, but got really bad during Carter's administration. It wasn't brought under control until mid-80's. Still, that first mortgage carried a 13% interest rate. Ouch.
|1 week 1 day ago||It's Russ Bellomy time. I was||
It's Russ Bellomy time.
I was thinking about him the other day.
Wouldn't it be great if Michigan goes way up on Minnesota and Bellomy comes in and lights things up even more? I'd love to see that just so Bellomy can have the personal satisfaction of it.
|1 week 1 day ago||Alabama vs. Texas A&M||
Alabama vs. Texas A&M ...
Alabama had 568 yards total offense, 31 first downs and were 3 of 6 on third downs.
Think about that ... 31 first downs and only faced 3rd on six occasions.
Now that's effective 1st down production.
Further ... 20 for 29 passing, with 10 receivers in on the action, with the highest being 4 for any receiver. Now that's spreading the ball around.
One can dream that will happen here.
|1 week 1 day ago||I suspected coaches track||
I suspected coaches track these things. We live in a spreadsheet world.
I almost wish Hoke would come out in a press conference and talk a little bit about the metrics being tracked and the progress being seen.
That assumes there is progress in the metrics being tracked. If not ... then ... umm ...
|1 week 1 day ago||overlap||
I'm as concerned about things as the next, but that year by year W/L progression is a bit disingenuous. The 4-8 includes losses from the previous 7-6.
|1 week 1 day ago||Kiffin is exactly what Saban||
Kiffin is exactly what Saban wants in an OC: someone who is terrified of Saban.
If by implication you're saying Nussmeier was not that guy ... then I'm even more pleased Nussmeier is on our sideline.
They don't want to be forced into a situation where they become predictable. That moment comes up when they get behind the chains.
I was thinking about this the other day. I have a post in another thread where I was speculating about offensive metrics that could be used to chart game-to-game progress.
Obviously, a "W" is the ultimate metric ... but I'm starting to think "yards gained on first down" may be the metric to chart the growth / maturity / effectiveness of this offense.
As much as I love to see a box score with Michigan being 12/15 on 3rd down conversions, I think I'd rather they not face 3rd down in the first place.
|1 week 1 day ago||Saban||
Yeah ... I'm not buying the notion that Saban "begged" OCs and they didn't comply.
Saban's reputation is a bit like Belichick's -- tight control over everything.
|1 week 1 day ago||Ferrigno?||
Might another possibility be special teams coach Dan Ferrigno? I don't know much about him -- we hear almost nothing about him -- but I wonder if he's got something against the spread punt and Hoke -- being Hoke -- is displaying loyalty to one of his staff.
Ferrigno's resume has some stuff on it -- Oregon State, California, USC, a four year stint as receivers coach at Oregon from 2001 to 2005, then two years at California again as a receivers coach. Then a very odd step down to high school HC for one year, then up to Hoke at SDSU.
|1 week 1 day ago||Data||
But wouldnt a coach be data driven in the end?
You know how some people are analytical and some are intuitive? I think Hoke prides himself on being more of an intuitive coach. Data is okay to a point, but gut feel rules in the end.
Good man but stubborn
Yep ... and unless he comes to his senses on some key points -- and quickly -- it will be his undoing.
|1 week 1 day ago||Metrics||
Well, you didn't really get to the matter of the metric.
I've got a few metrics in mind as it relates to the offense specifically:
#1, #2 and #3 get to the way the OL, RB and QB are operating.
We are not doing very well right now with yards gained on first down (#1)
#2 is a rough measure of 'explosiveness' ... teams like Oregon don't face many 3rd downs because it's usually 1st down, 2nd down or touchdown for them.
#3 is a measure of the team's ability to get yards when they have to. 3rd and short is a measure of RB+OL production; 3rd and long is a measure of QB+OL production.
#4 and #5 are related ... #5 a measure of the OL; #4 a measure of the effectiveness of the QB either (a) when he has time, and (b) under pressure. The YPP is a measure of aggressiveness (which is a measure of overall confidence) and YAC is a measure of WR effectiveness.
#6 and #7 are measures of maturity. #7 in particular is a number that should get lower and lower as coaching takes hold ... drive killing penalties should not occur with a team that is improving.
#8 is the obvious one.
There are others ... and variations on these ... but this is what comes to my mind.
Bottom line -- show me those metrics are improving game to game and talk of a 5th year becomes palatable. Show me a graph where those lines go sideways or wrong-ways ... nope.
|1 week 1 day ago||Correct ... the argument||
Correct ... the argument holds water only if we assume Utah represents the bottom and we see game-over-game improvement from here.
Can we expect those game-over-game improvements to materialize?
I think the general consensus is "no" ... or at a minimum people are very doubtful and need to be convinced otherwise.
|1 week 1 day ago||Performance Metrics||
What needs to happen NOW is to maintain stabililty and continuity, at least IMO.
I admire the tone and reason of your post.
Would you agree that the argument for a 5th year is contingent upon signs of game-to-game improvement in key phases of the game? What metrics would you use for that?
That's a dead serious question.
Imagine this team goes 6-6 to finish the season, but by season's end the gears are meshing and the machine is running much better. We lose to MSU but play better. By OSU time we're hitting on most cylinders and we beat them. Then what? And more to my point ... what specific measures of improvement would you look for as a good sign the machine keeps operating into 2015?
|1 week 2 days ago||"Hoke is still a great guy.||
"Hoke is still a great guy. Just not the guy for this job."
It's not that he's incapable of being the guy for this job ... it's that he doesn't seem willing to do what's necessary to be that guy. He needs to let go of his 1990's notions, some or most of his position coaches from Ball State and SDSU, and honestly seek guidance from some steady hands in the top echelons of this sport.
He has most of the puzzle pieces to be a good coach save a few. Get the few.
Failing that ... the program moves on from him. It's that simple.
|1 week 2 days ago||Ejecting Hoke and keeping||
Ejecting Hoke and keeping Brandon makes no sense ... so that part of this story rings plausible. Beyond that? Who knows.