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- Quiet arrogance: learn this concept.
- Avoiding putdowns of others: learn this concept.
- Michigan has a set of fans that did not attend MIchigan
- Those fans who are not alumni of Michigan are denigrated by some set of people
- Those who denigrate are not alumni of Michigan
- Those who denigrate do so out of a spirit of resentment, or envy, for those who went to Michigan.
- That spirit of resentment, or envy, is based on personal disappointment that they did not have the qualifications to attend Michigan.
- Point #1 is self-evident
- Point #2 may be true, but it's hardly pervasive
- Point #3 may not be completely true; there is no doubt some set of people who denigrate non-alumni fans and who are themselves alumni. But that nit can be left aside.
- Point #4 is really speculation, but I believe it to be your point. I say speculation because there can be many reasons for someone to denigrate others, and resentment or envy does not have to be part of the equation. Resentment or envy is often the motivation, but not always.
- Point #5 assumes point #4, and is even more difficult to assert as fact. It may be true in some cases, but certainly not all.
|18 hours 49 min ago||I love track and field. Back||
I love track and field. Back in middle school I ran the 100M and pole vaulted. I sucked at both. But I had fun for a year.
The event I am in absolute awe of is the high jump. How in the hell do those guys get their entire body that high up in the air and over that bar? It boggles my mind.
|19 hours 54 min ago||Agree||
I would amend slightly and change "arrogance" to "confidence". But the main point stands.
I was thinking about this the other day. There was someone on this site claiming to not care what he said, did, or how he acted because he was his own man, or some such stuff.
As I noted in my post above, I've got 31 years into a large multi-national. I've seen a lot of technical people try to pull off the arrogant posture. Few succeed.
To succeed at that, you'd better be good. And I mean freakin' awesome good. So good that your crap is put up with because of the value you provide. Most people aren't that good. I've seen maybe two or three in my 30+ years. And the dirty little secret about life is that no matter how good a person may think they are, there's likely someone equal or better somewhere near. Piss them off and it's battle-on. Want to be the baddest bull in the pasture? Be ready to fight ... and lose.
What I have seen a lot of are really good people who exercise the two points above. They do very well. They establish networks of people who will help them succeed. Even those better than them.
In short ... don't make enemies unnecessarily.
|20 hours 19 min ago||i was hoping for||
i was hoping for discourse
Okay, I'll take you at your word.
What are we attempting to discuss here? What is the central point around which we'll conduct this discourse?
You state that your main point "is that the denigration of our non alumni fan base is from those that have no academic pride."
I'll admit I'm not sure what you're getting at there. I think what you mean is the following:
If true, then:
Therefore, your question seems to be:
Do people denigrate non-alumni MIchigan fans, and if so, what is their motivation?
There could be quite a discussion around that open-ended question.
But at the end of the day it's very likely not worth pursuing. Because (a) there's no clear answer, and (b) who cares?
I don't mean (b) to be dismissive. Seriously ... why would anyone care? There are so many more important things to worry about than this.
Such as ... it's Saturday afternoon and I'm taking the time to type all this. Don't I have anything better to do with my life?
|21 hours 6 min ago||I have to confess a degree of||
I have to confess a degree of sincere admiration at your posting restraint. 4+ years as a member of this board, and one of your very few posts is on peanut butter at Wal-Mart. And better still, the post is perfectly in line with the tone of the original theme.
Well done sir ... well done! :-)
|22 hours 6 min ago||I'm one of those MSU alum you||
I'm one of those MSU alum you speak of. I applied to both UM and MSU and was accepted at both. I attended MSU because (a) I was paying my own way and could not afford the additional cost of UM over MSU, and (b) at that time MSU was the premier school for supply chain and logistics management.
I'm a Michigan fan because I was a fan since I was a little boy. Those allegiances do not die simply because of the school I attended. At MSU I was still a Michigan football fan, though quietly so. I remain a Michigan football fan to this day because of my being a fan from a young age.
Every university has their particular area of excellence. I know many on this board want to think MSU is without any academic merit, but they'd be wrong. MSU's veterinary school is top-notch; they have a suprisingly strong nuclear physics department; and every time you sit at a table and have a meal you should thank agricultural schools like MSU for what they provide. And by the way, I'm 31-years deep into a career with a large multi-national based on my MSU degree.
I love Michigan football. I don't much care for the theme of the OP.
|1 day 17 hours ago||Plus ... offseason? It's not||
Plus ... offseason? It's not offseason until Harbaugh says it's offseason.
|1 day 23 hours ago||This happened here in Tucson||
This happened here in Tucson a few years back during the Super Bowl -- someone at the local station that was carrying the game hit a switch that cut away from football and to some hard-core action. It stayed on for about 20 seconds, then cut off and back to football.
You can imagine the local news stories after that incident.
|1 day 23 hours ago||Yes, tough spot and bad||
Yes, tough spot and bad weather ... but as my memory serves, Bellomy was not helped by his receivers. There was at least one quite catchable ball -- his first pass, I believe -- in the flat that was dropped. Outcome of the game didn't hinge on that, but his confidence could have used that catch at that point.
|2 days 2 min ago||He seems like a good young||
He seems like a good young man with a good attitude. He may never play pro football, but I think he'll do well in whatever he pursues. Best of luck to him!
|2 days 12 hours ago||I went to college from 1977||
I went to college from 1977 to 1981. Not Michigan ... was accepted, but could not afford the cost delta over where I went. My weekly discretionary spending budget was $5, and that included Sunday dinner and laundry. I worked every hour I could get, and pretty much any job I could get. All money went to funding college. I received no money from the parents because they had none to spare.
Was I excluded? Not directly, and never intentionally or with malice. But when people went to the bar, I declined. I could not afford it. Pizza? Nope ... a poor value for the dollar. Dating? A real challenge. I didn't resent those with more, though I'll confess some moments of envy.
(High school -- small town -- different matter ... definite social exclusion based on family status there.)
But you know what? No regrets. I'm a better man for it. It taught me some valuable life lessons about hard work and thrift. Bottom line ... the tapestry of life. What was, was. What is, is.
Oh, and HARBAUGH man. Yeah. Harbaugh.
|3 days 2 hours ago||Recruiting nationally may not||
Recruiting nationally may not be a guaranteed formula for success.
But that does not mean one should not seek quality players wherever one finds them.
Recruiting does not need to be a "local vs. national" binary. It can be a blended approach, and most top-level programs attempt to do just that. It's just a question of degree.
|3 days 14 hours ago||Nice Pulp Fiction reference||
Nice Pulp Fiction reference there! Nice.
|4 days 6 min ago||Two things ...||
a) There are empty seats in that second photo ... is that typical?
b) I remember that game from my childhood ... it was called "Mousetrap."
|4 days 26 min ago||Same with Pipkens. Bingo ...||
Same with Pipkens.
Bingo ... I was going to say on the defensive side Pipkens is who I'd focus on.
The ability of the DL to get "push" is going to be something to watch this fall. The DL has been pretty good, but the truly great DLs are just disruptive forces. That starts in the middle and works out. So watching Pipkens this year will be interesting.
|4 days 28 min ago||Braden is an interesting||
Braden is an interesting choice ... particularly when I focus on your "out of necessity" comment. If Braden can be good, then it suggests those with more natural talent can be even better.
It's kinda-sorta the "weakest link" analogy ... focus on the player with the least natural abilities and chart them. The strength of the chain will be indicated by that link.
That said ... if Braden = Good, but everyone else = "meh" ... we have problems. But I don't see that scenario playing out. Improvement should be across the board. Some players more than others, but overall an upward slope.
|4 days 55 min ago||That's an interesting take||
That's an interesting take ... or rephrasing of the OP question -- "Which player's progress will serve as a proxy for the overall team development?"
Kalas on the OL is a good choice for that. It all starts there. If the OL does not get better, then all the other talk of QB, WR, FB development pretty much diminishes. Kalis is a good OL proxy ... because against expectations he's under-performed a bit.
(As opposed to, say, Mason Cole, who over-performed a bit.)
|4 days 2 hours ago||That's a fascinating||
That's a fascinating article. I don't understand all the math, but I like the pretty pictures! :-)
Seriously, cool article. Thanks for the link.
|4 days 14 hours ago||I feel for the guy ... he had||
I feel for the guy ... he had locked onto a dream and held onto it through all the coaching change turmoil. His tweet has a certain -- what? ... sad? poignant? -- feel to it.
The good news -- he's got a year to find another team where he can live his dream. I suspect he'll land on his feet. Best of luck to him.
|4 days 14 hours ago||Will miss the Gary Wright||
Will miss the Gary Wright references, though.
It took me a moment to see what you were getting at there.
Then memories of that song from my 10th grade flooded into my brain.
I recall that was a favorite "handle" for people back in the CB craze of the mid-70's.
|4 days 21 hours ago||If the NFL just let guys out||
If the NFL just let guys out of it without fines then no one would ever show up.
There'll always be players who crave being in front of the camera or microphone. The few who don't like it won't be missed. Let Marshawn Lynch have his peace.
|4 days 21 hours ago||I've traveled to Brazil on||
I've traveled to Brazil on business in the past. It's no myth ... the ladies there are quite pleasant to the eye.
Unless, like me, you walk into a door while admiring. I literally walked smack into a door. :-(
|4 days 23 hours ago||She (Giselle) isn't special||
She (Giselle) isn't special at all to me personally.
Ditto for me.
That's not to say she's un-attractive ... just doesn't have that "it" for me like other models do.
|5 days 2 hours ago||I was having a down start to||
I was having a down start to me day ... I was feeling uninspired ... then I saw this.
I am now motivated! Damn it, if that bird can overcome explosions and some stacked magazines, then so can I!
Hoorah. Damn the torpedoes ... full speed ahead!
(This GIF is great!)
|5 days 21 hours ago||I really hope Harbaugh buries||
I really hope Harbaugh buries this idea that a number is what a player should strive for.
One of the worst things to come out of the Hoke / Brandon years was this obsession with numbers -- "legacy" numbers, or the #1 or #2 jerseys, or whatever.
I wish Harbaugh would tell the players -- "The hell with the damn number ... go out there and make people talk about you, not the number on your jersey."
|5 days 21 hours ago||The "arm strength / wrist||
The "arm strength / wrist flick" thing is what struck me about Cardale Jones in those games to end last season ... he'd just flick his wrist and the damn ball would go 50 yards.
If Gentry is like that, then me likes. A lot.
|6 days 14 hours ago||If Malzone is a true||
If Malzone is a true competitor, then he is thinking Gentry will bring out the best in him.
Didn't Speight tweet something to that effect -- that Michigan was loading up and he (Speight) was eager to strap up and do battle?
It's going to be an interesting spring and fall camp. Can't wait to see how it all unfolds.
|6 days 14 hours ago||But minus Forcier/Robinson in||
But minus Forcier/Robinson in which Forcier disqualified his own self ...
I still shake my head at the shame of how that unfolded.
We know Robinson was a tough-as-nails competitor. Can you imagine if Forcier had his head screwed on straight and the two of them pushed each other to get better and better? It could have been something really special.
|6 days 14 hours ago||I was thinking about that as||
I was thinking about that as well. One of the things I saw in the OSU / Oregon game was the Oregon tacklers trying to take Cardale Jones down by upper-body tackling him. It did not work. In the second half they finally started leg tackling.
Hopefully Gentry is something similar -- a beast to get down, and he's going to gain at least a few extra yards just because of his size.
|1 week 22 hours ago||"Better than your mama ...||
"Better than your mama ... and your mama's not bad!" -- Sgt. Cowboy, Full Metal Jacket
|1 week 23 hours ago||The man is a public-relations||
The man is a public-relations genius. I love it.
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