Mason NEEDS this, Pistons, after all you've put him through
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|1 week 16 hours ago||Hypothetical||
If my kid had an offer from UM and wanted to go, I wouldn't try to dissuade him. UM is a great school academically and he would have great opportunities after. That would be my first priority. If he asked me what I thought about Hoke, I'd express concern that he may not be there, but I wouldn't worry about it as much because he'd still get a great education at UM no matter who the coach is.
And OSU will never keep every kid from leaving. OSU will keep most of the ones they want, but there will always be the occasional kid who wants to do something different.
|1 week 16 hours ago||3....||
3. I get the opinion that Hoke can't close from here. Seems like everyone here complains that Hole never fills those last few spots with the big names he's targeting and posters say he doesn't close.
4. The expectation wasn't for 2 championships because we weren't eligible for the post season Urban's first year. He exceeded expectations by going undefeated, though. And Hoke is a good coach, but no matter what he won't have as long a leash with recruits as Urban. Urban's got proven national success.
I agree with you overall, I wasn't trying to imply Hoke won't recruit well. But I do want Michigan fans' opinions on it. Do you think Hoke is kept on if they go 7-6 again?
|1 week 21 hours ago||Honest Question...||
Do you all think the gig is up on Hoke and recruiting? In the past, he has landed the meat of his classes early, including the top guys. He has not showed himself as a closer. Do you think the last two seasons have caught up to him with recruits?
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Of course.||
|10 weeks 3 days ago||Wimbush||
Ohio State seems to be pushing hardest for 5* Torrance Gibson now. I'd have to say he is our #1 choice. After that, Wimbush and Lorenzo Nunez out of GA are OSU's other main pursuits. It also seems OSU is looking to take 2 QB's this year.
Wimbush is an awesome kid and a great prospect. Would love for him to be in scarlet and gray.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Hoke||
I guess I shouldn't assume you would consider it a major issue. I know our fanbase would consider it a big problem if a player is facing a university investigation and Urban didn't know. As you stated, Gibbons had games left in his career that he would miss. And while the University is being tight-lipped to the public, what reason would they have to not keep his coach in the loop? It's a major issue to me because if Hoke didn't know, it means there isn't communication between the administration and the coaching staff about players.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||Your Comment||
I don't disagree. But there's a time for everything and I just don't think now is the time for that retort. Many in other fanbases would look at your comment as a sour grapes, "Hey they do it too" sentiment. I apologize for the confusion, that's why I phrased it as not being the time for "anything that resembles" that type of comment.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||Hoke||
I mean this in the politest way possible; if Hoke didn't know that Gibbons was being considered for expulsion, that's a major issue. Also, calling an expulsion by the school due to sexual assault a "family issue" is a shame. An that's exactly what Hoke did for the bowl game. Yes, I suppose it is an issue for Gibbons' family, but as many others on here have stated, it could have been more accurately described as a violation of program rules or something similar. Also, your assuming Hoke held him out of the Ohio State game for an unrelated matter. I'll allow that there is a chance something else held Gibbons out of the game, but that seems unlikely (and I think most Michigan fans will agree). So if Hoke knew Gibbons was being considered for expulsion and called it an injury issue, he lied. If he didn't know the status of his player within the university, there are some internal issues. No matter what, that's a lose-lose for Michigan.
As far as the third possibility, the woman obviously thinks she was raped. I don't really know what else to say in regards to what is and isn't sexual assault. No matter what, no one wins.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||Let me preface this by saying||
Let me preface this by saying that I have not read this entire thread yet and that I do not want an argument.
This is not the time to say anything resembling "Yeah, but they do it too!"
First, as a human being, I take no joy in this situation. There are two main scenarios here: a rape happened and the victim received little to no help from the justice system and had to wait years for her university to do the least amount that it could. OR, a rape didn't happen and a man is now having his life negatively impacted because of years old accusations. Either way, this situation is full of lose for everyone.
Second, as an Ohio State fan who reveres the rivalry and its history, this makes me angry. I do not want this shenanigans happening at our great and worthy opponent. Michigan is above this. Hoke does not need to lie about this situation because Michigan is supposed to already have the moral highground and be able to be honest about its issues. And because he lied, the already suspicious three year process will cause even more doubt about the program's actions and intent over the course of the case. By itself, the years long delay would've caused a lot of questions, but Hoke threw gasoline on that fire.
On Hoke in particular, the outsider's (me and other fans) view is now going to be that he is not an honest man. He seems to obfuscate at every turn, from the mundane (post-game pressers and reporter questions) to the serious (lying about Gibbons). Call it what you will, but he is rarely completely forthcoming about anything. I know I will probably get a few "but Urban Liar!!!" statements, but I'll take Urban's answers about the team or player issues over Hoke's any day. He has been nothing but straight forward on team discipline and even evaluating the team's play since he has been our coach.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||Not sure if serious...||
...but if you are, how do you figure?
This is a completely honest question.
|15 weeks 4 hours ago||Deion||
One of the best things I saw in the Under Armour practices was Sanders leading a tackling drill. Really?
|15 weeks 1 day ago||Green||
Honestly, Hoke didn't have a huge amount of top level schools to beat out. By that point, most of the big time offers Green had at the beginning weren't really chasing him any more. Bama, Oklahoma, and OSU already had filled up at RB. Green waited too long. Not trying to discount him as a player, but his field of sutiors had dropped off considerably by December last year.
|17 weeks 1 day ago||Agreed.||
Everytime I watched Michigan, I was underwhelmed by Kalis.
|17 weeks 3 days ago||Both||
Both. Raekwon has been semi expected so his spot has nothing to do with Smith or Shon. Plays a different position as well.
|19 weeks 21 hours ago||7 in a row||
7 in a row is fantastic. But the two best coaches in the country account for 5 of those, not the conference as a whole.
|19 weeks 21 hours ago||This.||
My ideal scenario is that the Buckeyes win Saturday and then MSU does not make a BCS bowl. This would flatten out the pecking order in the bowls so that it would be more even. Getting all those years of 2 BCS teams has hurt the conference image because our 4 or 5 team ended up playing another conference's 2 or 3 team. The media never acknowledges this.
|19 weeks 21 hours ago||Yes||
My favorite comment in this thread
|19 weeks 1 day ago||New Rules||
I'm a big fan of this. The SEC is the worst offender of using feeder JUCOs on high school kids who don't qualify. Just stick em in a JUCO where they take bowling for two years and then bring em over. Ohio State has taken the odd JUCO here and there, but it seems to be from all over the country. I don't worry about any Big Ten schools seeing this as a big obstacle.
|19 weeks 3 days ago||Cook||
The coaches saw Cook's W-L record and that was that. If they made it past that stat, they then saw his low INT number and happily wrote him down.
|19 weeks 3 days ago||Gallon||
From a non-Michigan fan point of view, I can see both sides. Gallon was as valuable as any WR in the league. In my mind, he was every bit as good as Abbrederis. But in this case, I think the Indiana game actually hurt him with non-Michigan based viewers. I've seen a lot of people reference his production, but then add in an "of course, a chunk of that came against Indiana who is terrible". Obviously, this is an illogical stance to take because a player who explodes like that and then has very good games the rest of the season shouldn't be penalized. But I think between that and Abbrederis coming in with more preseason hype you get your second team answer.
|19 weeks 3 days ago||Roby||
Other than the Wisconsin game, Roby played very well. He didn't morph into the defensive black hole that the preseason hype exploded to (which was ridiculous and admittedly, we Buckeye fans added to), but I didn't see any corners who were truly better in the Big Ten. He is certainly the best CB against the run and on the blitz in the league.
|19 weeks 3 days ago||Gallon||
Rewatching it now, and the only reason Gallon looks like he's coming open is because his man sees Gardner throw to Dileo.
Also, Gardner gets plowed a second later.
|19 weeks 3 days ago||2 Point||
I can't say from my end, I just know what Powell and the team stated:
|19 weeks 3 days ago||2 Point Play||
For what it's worth, Tyvis Powell said that they knew what play was coming on the 2 point try and that allowed him to be in the perfect spot.
Also, Gallon, Gardner, and Funchess are all grown-ass men.
|20 weeks 2 days ago||The Spread||
I've gotta say, OSU's spread is a lot more manball with Hyde than anything UM could even hope for this year in their wildest wet dreams.
|20 weeks 3 days ago||Urban||
Every coach does this. They'd be failing to do their job if they didn't. It's a win-win for any coach because there are two outcomes:
1. It forces the original school to spend time and resources on continual recruiting of a kid who is already committed to them. So even if the kid doesn't jump, the opposing staff is spending extra time on a commit that they are now not spending on uncommitted players.
2. The kid jumps.
|20 weeks 3 days ago||This||
As an outsider, there's no way Hand chose Alabama over UM for any academic reason unless he's not very bright. In which case, it may be better for him academically to go to Alabama.
|20 weeks 3 days ago||UM||
From a Buckeye point of view, UM over the last few years is facinating. I was born in 85 so my formative fan years were the 90's. Michigan was the big bad wolf. I hated, but respected UM because you guys were elite in my eyes. Obviously, when Tress came it was like we hit the jackpot every November. That feeling lasted (and still does to a point) for years.
Now, though, after RR and Hoke, I feel like I've lost a friend. I don't know how else to explain it. Michigan, whether we like it or not, has always been the team most like OSU in the Big Ten. No other fanbase understands the expectations and big-time stage that OSU has like Michigan fans. All other conference schools know where they stand in the pantheon of Big Ten football and it's below UM and OSU. Our Game is more important to the fabric of college football than in any game they will likely ever play. We hate Michigan yet know you are above the rest of our conference foes, even to the point that I used to sort of defend UM to other Big Ten fans (example - "What has your school done compared to UM?") Now, it's like we've lost some of our kinship, because UM isn't on our level. Beating you guys will never get old, but our Game is no longer as nationally relevant because UM has let us down. What happened to our great and worthy opponent?
|21 weeks 1 day ago||Cheerleaders||
Now there's an interesting list... Most iconic cheerleading uniforms (college only).
|21 weeks 1 day ago||Iconic||
For me, "Iconic" means that when you see that team on TV, you know immediately who it is without seeing the team listed or the announcers saying who it is.
I can't really put it in order, but here are the top schools IMO:
I've confused Bama and Oklahoma at a glance before. Same for Florida and Boise. When you see players in a burnt orange jersey, winged helmet, purple and gold, or a helmet covered in Buckeye leaves, you know what school that is instantly.