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2 weeks 6 days ago A couple of issues.  Much

A couple of issues.  Much like the B10/SEC/P12, the B12 has an even Tier 1/2 media payout.  The big difference is in the Tier 3 contracts.  UT has, by far, the largest because of the LHN.  Team like OU have a media payout compared to our BTN payout.  The B10 teams further bid out their radio broadcast, coaches shows, and other media rights not pledged to the BTN.  Michigan make an additional $7 million from their media deal with IMG.  Not all schools get that kind of money.

On top of that, Michigan made more in football ticket revenue ($46 million) than at least 6 of the current and future teams did on their entire football revenue.  Michigan made $85 million on direct football revenue alone ($22 million more than the next school, OSU did).

To say that the B10 distributes it's media money evenly is a misnomer.   The only difference is that the B10 consolidates their tier 3 into the BTN while Texas sells it on by themselves.

As far as expansion goes, The B10 sat at 11 teams for 20 years until UML was admitted.  They can wait until the B12/ACC GoRs runs out in 10/12 years.  I actually think that if B12 teams like Kansas were wanting to go, they would go a few years early.  The reduction of media rights wouldn't really be that big of deal at that point.

4 weeks 1 day ago Because, IMO, if/when we get

Because, IMO, if/when we get to 16, we will be going to 4 pods.  It will make things much easier to schedule.

5 weeks 6 days ago It's funny you say the past

It's funny you say the past is the past and you have a picture of Harry Newman as your avatar. 

9 weeks 3 days ago Jenkins slid due to multiple

Jenkins slid due to multiple off the field issues leading him to be kicked off UF's team.  If he didn't have those, he would have been top 15 or higher.  He was that good at UF before he was booted.

10 weeks 1 day ago Boondock Saints is the source

Boondock Saints is the source for some of the best movie quotes ever.

10 weeks 1 day ago The top 5's are hilarious

The top 5's are hilarious (but nsfw)

10 weeks 1 day ago Kalis and Wormley.

Kalis and Wormley.

10 weeks 1 day ago MY UTR (kind of)

Grosse Pointe Blank.

10 weeks 6 days ago I'm here for the posbang!

I'm here for the posbang!

12 weeks 4 days ago Might be Delany' splan

Warning, bad langauge in link:

 

The Delany Doctrine

12 weeks 4 days ago Delany was asked at the UMD

Delany was asked at the UMD presser how they went looking for schools to invite.  One of the things he said is that they start with schools that have AAU status and are contiguous and expand from there.

12 weeks 5 days ago I wish you would give the

I wish you would give the credit on this.  It's from one of Frank the Tank's commenters on the Big East destruction post.

15 weeks 2 days ago That would be the one.

That would be the one.

15 weeks 6 days ago As a fan, I absolutely agree with that

I want to see B10 teams in the Championship game.  I'd love to see two!  I think the B10 champ almost assures a spot in the 4 team playoff.  This past year was an exception to the rule.  Michigan played a very difficult schedule (losing to both the NCG game, an undeated OSU in Columbus, and left unprepared when it's star QB went down) and an undefeated OSU ineligible for the post season.  

That being said, if you stop thinking like a fan and start thinking like an university president/athletic director, what's the most important thing you can do for your athletic programs?  Make sure they are funded properly without using general funds to do so.  Having the BTN as wide spread as it can be with as much advertisement as possible and making the next tier 1 negotiations as fruitful as possible is a far greater priority than winning a National Football Championship.  If you think that way, it makes sense to me.

 

15 weeks 6 days ago If the B10 were to go to

If the B10 were to go to 16/20, it would be almost necessary to go to 4 pods/divisions.  I posted this in an earlier thread, but this is what it might look like with 20.  

 

First, to get to 20, there would have to be a nine game conference schedule.  Let's use UVa, UNC, GT, Duke, Missouri (the move to the SEC was a huge mistake) and ND (just for fun).

Pod A: UNL, Minny, Wisky, Iowa, Purdue

Pod B: ND, Missou, Illinois, NW, Indiana

Pod C: Michigan, MSU, OSU, UMD, UVA

Pod D: UNC, GT, Duke, PSU, Rutgers

 

Year 1: Pod A plays Pod B, Pod C plays Pod D

 

Year 2: Pod A plays Pod C, Pod B plays Pod D

 

Year 3: Pod A plays Pod D, Pod B plays Pod D

 

This would require a nine game schedule.  You can set them up with two year cycles  with a home and home before you switch, or just rotate every year.  Your semi's would come in after the pods are complete.  Year 1, the best records from Pods A and B would be the contestants in the Semifinal game.  Same with Pods C and D.

15 weeks 6 days ago I don't see any regular season games more than 12

The possible 14 game schedule comes in with Conference Semifinal Games.  If/when the B10 expands to 16/18/20 teams, they will have to be put in pods of 4x4 or 4x5 for the 16/18 team pods (5,5,4,4 for 18 team sched).  They would play Semi's between two of the pods and then the winners would play in the CCG.  This is what the B10 and SEC are believed to be pushing the NCAA to allow.

16 weeks 1 day ago There is no reason to have a

There is no reason to have a split down the middle.  You go to pods.  The NCAA bylaws state that you have to play everyone in your conference.  It doesn't state that the divisions be static. It would easily work with 16 or 20.  18 would be a little more difficult.  Here's how it goes.

First, to get to 20, there would have to be a nine game conference schedule.  Let's use UVa, UNC, GT, Duke, Missouri (the move to the SEC was a huge mistake) and ND (just for fun).

Pod A: UNL, Minny, Wisky, Iowa, Purdue

Pod B: ND, Missou, Illinois, NW, Indiana

Pod C: Michigan, MSU, OSU, UMD, UVA

Pod D: UNC, GT, Duke, PSU, Rutgers

 

Year 1: Pod A plays Pod B, Pod C plays Pod D

 

Year 2: Pod A plays Pod C, Pod B plays Pod D

 

Year 3: Pod A plays Pod D, Pod B plays Pod D

You can set them up with two year cycles  with a home and home before you switch, or just rotate every year.

18 with pods would be more difficult, but could be done.  Schools want to play the teams that will fill their stadiums (Michigan, OSU, PSU, UNL, and to a lesser extent, MSU).  So you make 2 large pods of 6 and 2 small pods of 3.  They might look like this assuming UVA, UNC, GT, and, since we are speaking hypothetically, ND:

West Pod: UNL, Wisky, Iowa, Minny, NW, Illinois

East Pod:  UMD, UVA, UNC, GT, Indiana, Purdue

Small A Pod: Michigan, OSU, MSU

Small B Pod: ND, PSU, Rutgers

 

Year 1/2: Small A plays West, Small B plays East

Year 3/4: Small A plays East, Small B plays West

 

Not ideal, but I think the end number is 20, anyway,  Like 14 is now for 16 teams, 18 would just be a stop gap until 20.  You could make the divisions 4 and 5 if you like.

 

BTW - There is a push from the B10 and the SEC to allow a semi-final game before the CCG. 

 
 
16 weeks 1 day ago I don't either, but they may

I don't either, but they may not have a choice.  The ACC teams make around 17 million apiece from their ESPN/Raycom media deal.  The B10 team, after they negotiate their new deal in 2016, they will be more than double that (including BTN money).  The ACC is locked into their deal until 2027.  If FSU, UVA, Clemson, NCState, and VT all leave, they will have no conference to be the center of.

16 weeks 1 day ago They are a good school.  I

They are a good school.  I agree with you, but their teams don't carry the brand and don't add to the pile of money the B10 is collecting.  They just don't fit the mold.  In regard to expansion, it's always best to follow the money.

16 weeks 1 day ago My really was in regard to

My really was in regard to bringing them in the discussion.  Sorry if I offended you.

16 weeks 1 day ago Ahhhhh . . . Expansion rumors, a guilty pleasure of mine

Hmmm . . . I can most definitley see the B10 going to 16, 18, or 20.  It's all possible (and even probable if you think about it).  The main goal of B10 expansion is to make the B10 schools as self reliant as possible.  The more atheltic departments that can pay for themselves, the stronger the conference will be.

What are the reasons for the B10 to expand?  There are many.  First of all, it can get more eyeballs on the BTN.  If the B10 expands to areas outside their footprint , they can gey more eyeballs on the channel increasing the revenue for the schools.  That's why teams like Cinci, Pitt, ISU aren't in the discussion.  They only take a slice of the pie with out adding anything.  Schools in large and growing population centers not already in the footprint are the main targets.  The B10 is mostly large, state flagship universities.  UMD and RU fit that mold.

Strong academic schools that are in the AAU are reasons as well.  Schools that can add to the collaboration the CiC provides are a great plus.  The B10 is, first and foremost, a collection of very highly rated, research based universities that play sports against eachother.  Except for a couple of exceptions, these are the types of schools they will look to add.  Any school that can help these schools lobby for more research grant money and more power within the AAU itself will be favorably looked upon.  Some say AAU status in nessacery, but the B10 knew UNL was getting voted out before they accepted them unanamously.  I think it's perferred, but not madatory.  Academic reputation is more important, IMO.

Where they are located is very important.  The B10 looks to expand in growing population areas in the Mid Atlantic and even into the South East.  

If ND were to want to join, they fit none of the above criteria.  They are a highly rated undergrad university, but they do very little research.  They are already in the footprint and are a small, private university.  What they bring is eyeballs on screens.  Many eyeballs.  They would be accepted in a heartbeat. 

My guess on who is on the B10 expansion list is:

1. ND - But I don't think they will join.  Too much animosity and pride from South Bend to lose control.

2. Texas - As things stand today, UT would never happen.  They fit the mold better than anybody, though.

3. UNC - Fits the mold perfectly.  Highly rated AAU school with a big name athletic program in a rapidly growing state.

4. UVA - Not the name brand that UNC is, but fits the academic mold better.  Very good in many sports.

5. Kansas - Horrible football and the B12 GoR is a sticking point, but they are AAU, would bring Kansas City to the BTN and a big BB name.  I know FB drives media contracts, but the Kansas basketball brand can carry their weight.

6. GT - In the college football hotbed of Atlanta, is AAU, one of the best engineering schools and would bring quite a lot to the CiC.

7. Duke - Great research school (research giant, 2nd highest amount spet on research).  Great national BB brand and antural rivalry with UNC.  Below horrible FB and doesn't carry the state of NC.  Brought in as a partner to UNC?  That's the only way I see them invited.

8. FSU - Not AAU, not a highly rated school (on par with UNL, Indiana and the like), but would bring a good portion of Florida to the BTN.  Their academics are improving and have done some pretty good research in the magnetic field area.  I would love to have FSU in the fold, but I don't think they get enough respect from the B10 presidents.  Big football brand that would help the BTN greatly.  #3 on my board.

9. Uconn - Not AAU, not in a growing state, not a very good FB program.  Don't see it unless they fill in to get an even number of schools.

10. BC - A lot of talk around BC.  Some say they would bring in Boston and the rest of New England, but I think it's a stretch.  They have no research budget ($45,000?) and have no brand what so ever in any sport but hockey.

I tink that out the reasonable schools, UVA is the most probable to join.  They fit the academic mold to a tee.  They don't want to wade into the mess that is the SEC.  The state of Virginia is becoming more Northern every year.  It would solidify the DC market and bring the major population regions to the BTN.  Not exciting, but a solid add.

I think that UNC is the next choice, but there is a power struggle between the administration and athletics.  i don't know who will win, but I wouldn't mind UNC in the B10.  If they don't join, It's GT all the way.  I hope FSU is involved, but don't think the B10 would go for that.  I can see them going to 18 if Duke is a requirement for UNC.  I wouldn't be fun scheduling, but possible.  I think they wait for 20 until the dust settles.

16 weeks 1 day ago Really?

Iowa State?  Really?  The only thing they have got going for them is the AAU.  They have no fan base, they no eyeballs to the BTN, and they are not good in any sport.  

16 weeks 6 days ago Think Omameh

He was listed as 6'5" 240 by scout and 6'5" 236 (listed as a DE) by rivals

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17 weeks 6 hours ago My high school has done those

My high school has done those for years.  They tried to get me to play.  I refused on the basis that one of two things would have happened: I would get hurt or seriously hurt someone.  At 6'7" and 300 lbs while receiving college training as a OL, it might have been ugly.

I will say this, none of my HS teammates got hurt playing those games, though.

18 weeks 1 day ago I think you are thinking too

I think you are thinking too small.  Delany's tie in inquiry to the Mos Eisley Cantina Sandstorm Bowl on Tatooine would fill MSU's intergalatic recruiting.

19 weeks 21 hours ago I once punched a kid in a JV basketball game

I shot a jumper from the the foul line and got fouled.  The ball bounced on the rim a couple of times and finally bounced out.  In frustration, I turned around and threw my fist in an uppercut motion.  I didn't realize that a kid from the other team was right there.  I hit him in the stomach.  Everybody laughed.  I went 1-2 on my foul shots.

In that game, I also broke my schools record for rebounds off of one's own missed shots, 6 in a row.  I shot, missed, rebounded my shot six straight times.  I finally missed the seventh.  That was my last year playing basketball.

19 weeks 2 days ago Hotdog/ Polish Sausage with a

Hotdog/ Polish Sausage with a pop?

20 weeks 1 day ago As a youth coach (middle

As a youth coach (middle school level) who runs a veer (the High School we feed into runs the split veer), I have gone almost entirely to the pistol.  Our offensive formations look very much like GT's and AF's do.  The result is somewhat less attractive, but we manage.

The main benefit for running the veer in the pistol is time.  It gives the QB more time to make his reads in the run and the pass games.  The snap is a pain, but it works.

21 weeks 4 days ago South Park says he's Satan

A little old, but . . .Sorry, should be up by Don's Saban/Satan post.

21 weeks 5 days ago Took down the wording, but

Took down the wording, but would always link any site quoted, especially his.

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