Good luck with law school. With your obviously excellent skill in finding obscure things to complain about, I'm sure you will do just fine once you graduate.
I want to see RR be successful at Michigan because I think he's one of two or three young coaches with a potential to be really great.
I fear that he won't get the chance to do it at Michigan. And I really fear that he will do it somewhere else, and we will look back and regret the situation he is being put in.
"quite a few new coaches who have won more with less"
Less what? Sheridan/Threet? Jordan Kovacs? I admire these kids for trying hard, but let's face it: we have deficiencies in talent. Just because it is Michigan does not mean that the talent level is automatically higher than GT or Cincinnati or Stanford.
... but offers from Stanford and MSU do not scream superstar. More telling is the fact that the other two huge programs in the area (ND and OSU) didn't give him an offer.
1. My point wasn't that Mike Martin wasn't Lloyd Carr's recruit. My point was that there were no upperclassman starter in front of him or Craig Roh. While I didn't expect every player to be a star, I'm disappointed that there is nobody in front of Mike Martin and/or Craig Roh. (As far as I can remember, the only two full-time sophomore starters on the DL since 2004 are Woodley and T. Taylor. To have two in one year is not normal.)
2. I give you Obi Ezeh; I think he's barely serviceable but you are right that he's about as good as Mouton. Stevie Brown was recruited as a safety and the only reason he's moved to LB is because there is nobody else at LB.
3. That seems to suggest a problem with LB recruiting. I think Jonas Mouton would have made a good SS (or whatever it is that Kovacs is playing).
... that this is even still an open issue. Lloyd Carr was a great coach, but his coaching and recruiting left a lot to be desired in the last three or four years of his regime. Cases in point:
1. DL recruiting: Mike Martin and Craig Roh is starting as true underclassmen. Where are the junior and senior DL players? Look at the 2-deep: Heininger, Banks, Sagesse, ...
2. LB recruiting: Jonas Mouton is the only one who panned out (and he was a safety). Where are the backups? Why is a walk-on our #1 backup?
3. Safety recruiting: Jordan Kovacs, enough said.
Now, obviously RichRod is to blame for some of the current issues. But to say the cupboard is not bare does not even make sense.
(I think the OP's sentiment is shared by many Michigan fans; they just don't come to this board)
.. so little time. Man, that thread is a trip. Anything bad that can be said about the Vest was said. I'd be really disappointed if that thread doesn't make it to Brian's TWIS.
That graph just shows old cities (NYC, Boston, Philly, DC) vs. new cities (Dallas, F/W, Houston, Phoenix). Sure there are some exceptions: SF vs. LA, but I don't think mass transportation is what makes a city "good" or "great". Just look at the number of people moving into the cities in the upper right hand corner in the past 20 years.
And no, I'm not trying to be forum police. I just can't believe how many times we have to hear about how it's great to lose our (so far this year) best RB.
It's called silver lining: It's not good, but I hope the team finds a way to learn from and overcome it.
And no, TOP does not help if the offense doesn't score (and Carlos Brown is good at that, again so far this year).
I think the next metric would be "defensive number of plays per possession". The next one after that is "defensive number of first downs per possession". The one after that is "defensive number of points per possession".
I guarantee you we are more likely to win games if we keep these numbers down. No joke!
This is the only thing that Michigan does well at this point:
"The Hawks had him 3rd-and-long several times on both of ASU's TD drives, and he just found receivers running around on broken plays. It's not really something you can gameplan, there's no scheme to defend that kind of play."
Don't you think clock management matters? Don't you think having players that can execute a two-minute drive matters? Don't you think having some discipline matters? There's a reason some teams win close games and others don't.
I understand that fumble recoveries and fluke turnovers happen, but State had some good luck against ND (Floyd out) and against CMU (failed 2-point conversion, missed last minute FG). Yet, they manage to screw it up. There is a reason we say "Sparty NO!"
Equal != "Michigan having two comeback wins that could easily have been losses, and the Spartans having two last-minute losses that could easily have been wins."
... the safety help thing. Why are we protecting our supposedly NFL-ready #1 CB with safety help instead of our struggling and injured #2 CB? JT also didn't get a lot of safety help vs. Indiana. Weird.
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... And twice as nice!
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Still can't believe we're here ... At the mountaintop.
$15 is all it takes. Come on, people!
http://www.nfl.com/videos/arizona-cardinals/09000d5d81a7c9b4
Not quite sure how long that video will stay there.
Amazing play ...
Rudy who?
I'm sure this is a disappointing outcome for him, and I hope he can overcome it.
Not according to the WWL:
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=1074…
Clueless much?
They can't ... privacy laws and all that
Go Blue!
They are also worth every penny ... almost.
Both logos are ugly*
*Yes, I'm wearing my blue-tinted glasses
Good luck with law school. With your obviously excellent skill in finding obscure things to complain about, I'm sure you will do just fine once you graduate.
... that would have been true, but have you seen our (non-)safety play this year?
... to stand next to GERG!
... that's all I gotta say
... is win one more game to get a .500 record and get hot in the playoffs. That's the beauty of college football!
These numbers are (almost) all you need to know to understand Michigan's struggle defensively.
I want to see RR be successful at Michigan because I think he's one of two or three young coaches with a potential to be really great.
I fear that he won't get the chance to do it at Michigan. And I really fear that he will do it somewhere else, and we will look back and regret the situation he is being put in.
.. beat Illinois (and Purdue) ...
.. pos and neg will be even better.
"quite a few new coaches who have won more with less"
Less what? Sheridan/Threet? Jordan Kovacs? I admire these kids for trying hard, but let's face it: we have deficiencies in talent. Just because it is Michigan does not mean that the talent level is automatically higher than GT or Cincinnati or Stanford.
http://www.annarbor.com/sports/joe-paterno-explains-how-marriage-works-…
... but offers from Stanford and MSU do not scream superstar. More telling is the fact that the other two huge programs in the area (ND and OSU) didn't give him an offer.
Washington was ranked after they beat USC
http://mgoblog.com/search/node/riot%20columbus
1. My point wasn't that Mike Martin wasn't Lloyd Carr's recruit. My point was that there were no upperclassman starter in front of him or Craig Roh. While I didn't expect every player to be a star, I'm disappointed that there is nobody in front of Mike Martin and/or Craig Roh. (As far as I can remember, the only two full-time sophomore starters on the DL since 2004 are Woodley and T. Taylor. To have two in one year is not normal.)
2. I give you Obi Ezeh; I think he's barely serviceable but you are right that he's about as good as Mouton. Stevie Brown was recruited as a safety and the only reason he's moved to LB is because there is nobody else at LB.
3. That seems to suggest a problem with LB recruiting. I think Jonas Mouton would have made a good SS (or whatever it is that Kovacs is playing).
... that this is even still an open issue. Lloyd Carr was a great coach, but his coaching and recruiting left a lot to be desired in the last three or four years of his regime. Cases in point:
1. DL recruiting: Mike Martin and Craig Roh is starting as true underclassmen. Where are the junior and senior DL players? Look at the 2-deep: Heininger, Banks, Sagesse, ...
2. LB recruiting: Jonas Mouton is the only one who panned out (and he was a safety). Where are the backups? Why is a walk-on our #1 backup?
3. Safety recruiting: Jordan Kovacs, enough said.
Now, obviously RichRod is to blame for some of the current issues. But to say the cupboard is not bare does not even make sense.
(I think the OP's sentiment is shared by many Michigan fans; they just don't come to this board)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude: "pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others."
Even if this is not OSU, I'll be laughing at them. The fact that this is OSU makes it sweeter. And no, we did not win twice today.
... we're not even there yet. Maybe next year :)
.. so little time. Man, that thread is a trip. Anything bad that can be said about the Vest was said. I'd be really disappointed if that thread doesn't make it to Brian's TWIS.
The freshman receiver ran a wrong route. What's amazing about Colt is that he didn't even yell at anyone; he just looked mad and sat down.
Compare that to Pryor's reaction after any one of his mistakes.
... of putting it.
Other ways:
"OMG! We lost the game (of TOP) again!"
"RR should be fired! He doesn't understand that you need to win the TOP to be successful in this league."
"Horror II: We lost the TOP against an FCS team (again)!"
Tate needs to match that for M to be championship caliber.
That graph just shows old cities (NYC, Boston, Philly, DC) vs. new cities (Dallas, F/W, Houston, Phoenix). Sure there are some exceptions: SF vs. LA, but I don't think mass transportation is what makes a city "good" or "great". Just look at the number of people moving into the cities in the upper right hand corner in the past 20 years.
#2, #4, and #6, please.
Two identical topics on this:
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/benefit-carlos-browns-injury
And no, I'm not trying to be forum police. I just can't believe how many times we have to hear about how it's great to lose our (so far this year) best RB.
It's called silver lining: It's not good, but I hope the team finds a way to learn from and overcome it.
And no, TOP does not help if the offense doesn't score (and Carlos Brown is good at that, again so far this year).
I think the next metric would be "defensive number of plays per possession". The next one after that is "defensive number of first downs per possession". The one after that is "defensive number of points per possession".
I guarantee you we are more likely to win games if we keep these numbers down. No joke!
...
... oxygen.
Read this again and tell me that this is equivalent to what you said TomVH is saying:
"There's a lot of kids that will say they have interest, and might come up for a visit. It doesn't mean we're going to get them."
This is the only thing that Michigan does well at this point:
"The Hawks had him 3rd-and-long several times on both of ASU's TD drives, and he just found receivers running around on broken plays. It's not really something you can gameplan, there's no scheme to defend that kind of play."
Looks like it's Baton Rouge ...
http://espn.go.com/college-football/gameday
Don't you think clock management matters? Don't you think having players that can execute a two-minute drive matters? Don't you think having some discipline matters? There's a reason some teams win close games and others don't.
I understand that fumble recoveries and fluke turnovers happen, but State had some good luck against ND (Floyd out) and against CMU (failed 2-point conversion, missed last minute FG). Yet, they manage to screw it up. There is a reason we say "Sparty NO!"
... The Knowledge is a B10 referee. He'll make sure that the score matches his prediction. Rest easy, people!
Equal != "Michigan having two comeback wins that could easily have been losses, and the Spartans having two last-minute losses that could easily have been wins."
Our #2 corner does not get safety help at all. (Do I sound like a broken record?)
... the safety help thing. Why are we protecting our supposedly NFL-ready #1 CB with safety help instead of our struggling and injured #2 CB? JT also didn't get a lot of safety help vs. Indiana. Weird.
Right?!?
... we don't hate America, and we don't want to play (and beat) service academies.
I agree that this is the problem: weak LB's (and to some extent, weak safety play)