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Dennis Bergkamp!  DENNIS…

Dennis Bergkamp!  DENNIS BERGKAMP!!!

Seth,

Great work as usual. …

Seth,

Great work as usual.   The great thing about the bye week is that I can re-read this before our next game and pick up all the things you packed into that I missed on the first reading.

One question, on the Mazi Smith sack fumble/incomplete pass, you referenced that the ball hit the lineman after it left Martinez's hand.  Why does that matter?  It could still be a fumble if it hit the lineman right?  Isn't it the arm going forward before the ball leaves his hand that determines if it is a pass or fumble?

Also you mentioned a double-pass.  Are we sure we aren't overthinking that?  It looks like it might just be a flare pass where the WR is just running the coverage off (in this case Dax).  The RB never really looks upfield before the ball gets there and he doesn't move the ball to pass once he gets it.

Again, great work, thanks for doing all that voodoo that you do so well. 

Matt Shegos.  He was…

Matt Shegos.  He was horrible.  Every game followed basically the same pattern, call everything possible in the first period, call nothing at all in the third period, middle period would be halfway in between.  Didn't matter what the teams were doing, he didn't deviate from the pattern.  So the teams that would clutch and grab (LSSU, MSU) were at a huge advantage once they got through the first period.

We're helping Wayne State…

We're helping Wayne State open a new arena, that they will share with the Pistons' new G league affiliate.  Good way to help out a smaller school by increasing their gate, and increasing (or maintaining) presence in the City.

Thanks for putting this…

Thanks for putting this together, Seth.  One of the highlights of the summer, even with all that's going on with the program.  I wonder if this is the year to revisit the basketball/hockey HTTV idea for later in the year?  I'd definitely purchase one.

Best wishes to Brian, hope he's doing ok.

I wonder if that has…

I wonder if that has something to do with BYU.  BYU can't play on Sundays.  If they want to have the entire region play on the same day, it had to be Saturday-Monday because of BYU.  The play in games are on Thursday, so they also don't want to make those teams play again on Friday.  Now they could have moved BYU (and the play-in teams) to a different region, but maybe they wanted to keep BYU as the top six seed.

I have absolutely no inside…

I have absolutely no inside knowledge on this or any other transfer, but I do wonder if the circumstances of this year -  an extended season where players were no allowed, or strongly encouraged not to visit friends and family from home - might result in more cases of homesickness than we normally see in a year.  Surely the poor season and the coaching season won't help matters, but some of these seemingly out of nowhere transfers might be a result of personal reasons that we won't know about (nor should we).

8-2, they lose to OSU and…

8-2, they lose to OSU and finish 7-1 in conference, but win the division because OSU's game with Rutgers is cancelled and they lose to Penn State to finish 6-1 in division.  They win the crossover game with Wisconsin, but then lose in the playoff to Ohio State.  So a BIG title, a trip to the playoff, two wins over Wisconsin, wins over MSU and PSU, but two losses to OSU.

Canada has had 124k cases,…

Canada has had 124k cases, the US has had over 5 million.

Yet the CFL is cancelling, while the NFL is still planning on playing with no announced plans for a league wide bubble and no league wide ban on in-person fans.

The phrase "whistling past the graveyard" is not supposed to be literal.

At a bar in East Lansing

At a bar in East Lansing

How does qualified immunity …

How does qualified immunity "allow public servants to do their job"?  Please give examples of proper police procedures that police officers would not be able to complete without the protection of qualified immunity.  How did police do their job prior to the advent of qualified immunity?  Was there a rash of police being arrested and convicted for not doing their jobs prior to 1982?

Yes, there's no doubt there…

Yes, there's no doubt there are a myriad of things that need to be done to change the culture of policing in this country and prevent this kind of violence against minority communities:  demilitarizing the police forces; retraining police with a greater emphasis on de-escalation and recognition of inherent bias; establishing some sort of system so that police that are let go by one department for excessive force complaints aren't rehired by other jurisdictions; establishing citizen oversight for all misconduct complaints; making departments more representative of the communities they are policing; spending more money on the people who work in police departments and less on the weaponry; passing serious gun control legislation to reduce the number of weapons police have to face on a daily basis (to name a few)

Increasing accountability by eliminating qualified immunity, or seriously reworking it so it is not just carte blanche for every bad cop is a good step.  It's not the only one. 

You don't need to have heard…

You don't need to have heard of the legal term to understand that there needs to me more accountability for police officers in this country.  Anyone who saw the murder of George Floyd should understand that.  Anyone who read about the murder of Breona Taylor should understand that.  Anyone who saw the murder of Eric Garner five years ago, or the brutal beating of Rodney king nearly 30 years ago should understand that police brutality is a major issue in our society.  If you understand that, it doesn't take long to form the opinion that giving police additional immunity of any sort is problematic.  

Schedule them in basketball

Schedule them in basketball

I appreciate the effort, but…

I appreciate the effort, but I'm not sure a franchise that went 86 years between championships (and saw their arch-rivals win 20+ in that time frame) is one we want to bring up in comparison to Michigan right now.

So if I read this correctly,…

So if I read this correctly, the sticking point seems to be waiving privilege for the Board.  None of the board members want to waive privilege, and there is some disagreement about whether a credible "independent" report can be provided without that privilege being waived.

Question for lawyers on the board (or anyone with expertise in this sort of thing), what does "privilege" mean for the trustees in the instance?  Do they not want to give up their private communications amongst themselves?  Why would the new board members care about that, if they weren't around for the Nasser mess when it happened?  Or is there something else that they are protecting?

Because it's the off-season…

Because it's the off-season and like the rest of us you're starved for any football content.

Thanks for this, haven't…

Thanks for this, haven't thought about these guys in ages.  Somewhere in my basement I have a worn out cassette of Thump, Strum, and Stumble.  I think I also have a four song thing they did with a cover of "My Funny Valentine", and a live recording (from the Blind Pig?).  A friend of mine roomed with some of the band members one summer and I got to hang out with them some.  Great musicians,eminently cool guys.

Goober and the Peas were also a great live show to see, although I would always end up picking straw out my clothes for days.  I have a memory of being in a Silverman's at 3am after going to see a show in Detroit and the waitress given us crazy looks because we were all covered in straw.

"Beilein: Don't give me that…

"Beilein: Don't give me that, you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings

Ref: What?

Beilein: Shut your festering gob, you tit! Your type makes me puke!  You vacuous, toffee-nosed, malodorous pervert!!"

A UFR of a win over Ohio…

A UFR of a win over Ohio State?

Whitmer served as Ingham…

Whitmer served as Ingham County prosecutor for six months, from July 2016 to Dec 2016.  She was appointed to the office after Stuart Dennings was charged with multiple criminal charges for pandering and engaging prostitution.  The "metric ton of shit" that was overlooked by that office was overlooked when Dennings was in office, not Whitmer.

Would the Sugar have to take…

Would the Sugar have to take a Big 12 team if The Big 12 champ is in the playoffs, and there are no other Big 12 teams with less than 3 losses or in the top 12 of the playoff rankings?

Would the Sugar take an 8-3 West Virginia or 8-4 Texas that lost to a team we beat handily over us?

I think if the favorites win and OU gets the playoff, we get the Sugar against whichever SEC team the Sugar wants (probably Georgia).  If OSU gets the playoff, we end up in the Rose.

But only two in conference …

But only two in conference (they lost to Maryland to start the season).

If they win out and OU loses one game, or WV loses two games, they'll be in the Big 12 championship game.

No, we shouldn't make this a…

No, we shouldn't make this a rivalry thing.  She should be honored because what she's doing (talking to athletes, particularly male athletes, about what they can do to prevent sexual assualt) is sorely needed in our society.  Not to tweak our rivals, or to try and claim some sort of moral high ground.  Doing that would only trivialize her message and make it easier for others to dismiss it.

There is a big difference…

There is a big difference between being a dick (or bully) coach and leaving a player who might be in serious trouble on the side of a practice field to die for an hour.  There is ample evidence to suggest that Harbaugh can be the former at times, or least tolerates it from his assistants. 

I don't think we have any evidence that he (or anyone on his staff) has ever done the latter.  I would hope that the program has in place safeguards that take any and all decisions dealing with player safety out of the hands of the coaches and into the hands of trainers and medical professionals.  We should have doctors and/or trainers at all practices / workouts, and they should have the authority to stop the practice or workout for any individual player at any time if they feel it necessary, with no questions asked from the coaching staff.

Hasn't Jim Tressel's show…

Hasn't Jim Tressel's show cause with the NCAA expired?  They could hire him as an "interim" coach.

Even in local politics, more…

Even in local politics, more money makes it easier to run (and win).  Unless (or until) the wards are redrawn, Burns Park residents will have a distinct advantage in Ward 3.

That's ridiculous

9 out 10 our HS football players have no clue who Billy Graham was.  His last nationally televised sermon was what, 10, or 20 years before they were born?  Even the preachers he directly influenced like Pat Robertson or Jerry Farwell have mostly left the public eye.  There is no doubt he greatly influenced the evangelical movement of the late 20th century, but suggesting that players won't come to Michigan because some people object to his outdated views on some social issues is just silly.

Canada's only been at LSU one year

the issue with their offense this year is that Oregeron (or Cajun Hoke if you prefer) meddled in the offense, asking Canada to take out all the motions and shifts, which is the key part of his offense.

Go look at the Pitt offense in 2016 when they beat Clemson for a good idea of what Canada's offense can be at its best.

Pointing out obvious errors by the refs

does not mean you are absolving our team from blame for the loss.  There were plenty of things that we could have done better.  But the officiating was horrendous, and for the second year in a row in this rivalry, it was deicdedly to our detriment (the whole :00 playclock thing is quite common in most games, as delay of game is usually called about a second or so after the playclock expires.)  There's nothing wrong with pointing that out.

At the game

the scoreboard and announcer announced it as a first down, whereas the refs and the sideline down markers listed it as a 2nd down.  Really glad we scored there, as I'm not sure most of the crowd realized that it was really third down, not second down as the scoreboard read.

This may be the best single line you've written since 11 Swans

"And even though O'Korn just set a winnable Ohio State game on fire in a way that has probably never happened before or will happen again, I care a lot more about his feelings than some jabroni on the internet who doesn't have to introduce himself under his screen name."

This game hurts, not because its any big indicator of the state of the program(if anything it was a positive sign that even with bad qB paly we still had a chance to win late), it's that the general randomness of the universe has lead to good people like O'Korn, like Speight, like Hurst, or any of the other seniors to miss a chance to accomplish the one thing they wanted more than anything else, to win the year's last game.  John O'Korn might not have been good enough to be a successful starting QB at Michigan, but that doesn't mean he wasn't a good representative of our university and won't be a successful Michigan man in his life.  Anybody who can watch his press conference after the game, and still feel the need to heap abuse on him when he's at the lower point emotionally than any of us can imagine really needs to check themselves.

Good luck in all your future endeavors, John.

Guess at the Cmte's initial rankings

1) Georgia

2) Alabama

3) Clemson

4) Notre Dame

5) Penn State

6) Ohio State

7) Wisconsin

8) Oklahoma

 

The Cmte has said they don't consider head to head until the very end of the process and right now, PSU's wins have been slightly better than OSU's.

I would add

end NCAA soccer.  Or at least make it clear that players with the opportunity to go to youth academies who make the choice to play NCAA soccer are essentially giving up their future in the international soccer of the national team.

Or, find a way to make NCAA soccer look like NCAA football or basketball, where most of the best players at the best schools spend almost all their time working to improve as players, and competition for those spots is fierce.

What is it about anti-soccer people

(Is their a specific term for those people?) that they feel the need to make sure everyone knows that they don't like soccer, like the kid in middle school who made sure to tell everyone how not gay he was at every opportunity?  As if people will think less of you if you actually enjoyed watching soccer.

Pretty bold of him to predict a win over Eastern Michigan so far out.
Maybe he could try returning punts

He seems to be good at avoiding people.

If D. Smith can do it...

Some guesses

24-10-1

Never played LSU

Loses to Bama (2x), Auburn, A&M, South Carolina (2x), Miss St, Tenn, Missouri, Georgia, 

Wins over Ark, Miss, Auburn, Bama, A&M, Florida, Georgia, SC, Vandy, Missouri and maybe Kentucky?

Guesses 02 - Heston 48 - Chappius 51 - Elliot 65 - Timberlake 81 - Woolfolk 89 - Hoard 93 - Wheatley 98 - Griese
Adding numbers might be helpful

especially for the freshmen or other players who may have new numbers from last year.

I can't believe the official site hasn't posted spring game rosters.  Seems like an obvious way to boost attendence.

I think a lot of people

more knowledgable than me have pointed to that series as the point where Michigan Hockey really turned the corner and Yost became the Yost that people are describing in this thread. 

My first game at Yost

was game two of the infamous Cornell series in the NCAA tournament where the Cornell fans taught us how to be hockey fans.  I was instantly hooked.  Having grown up at Michigan Stadium, having gotten student season basketball tickets at Crisler after the national championship year, Yost blew me away.

It's hard to tell if the team played the way it did because of Yost, or if Yost became the madhouse it was because of the team.  Either way, it can all be laid at the feet of Red.  His teams played with relentless speed and skill.  Everytime you looked up they were on an odd man rush.  He wasn't adverse to running up the score, especially if he felt the other team had slighted his team or his players in any way.  It was the exact opposited of Lloydball.  And the crowd fed off that.  We taunted, teased, and cajoled the opposition.  You knew they could hear us.  For that opposing goalie it must have been like jumping in a deep pool with a bunch of sharks.  They could circle you for hours, but eventually they were going to strike, and once the first one got to you, it would become a feeding frenzy.

One of my favorite things at Yost was talking to, and watching fans who were experiencing the atmosphere for the first time.  Numerous times I had people ask me, "What are they saying?!?" referring to some sort of quasi-obscene thing the students were saying.  

At some point in the late 80s, early 90s, Notre Dame scrapped their hockey program.  A few years later they restarted it (IIRC Dave Poulan was the coach).  Their first year back they played a game at Yost that we ended up winning 13-0.  At that game I sat near a guy from Boston who was talking about wanting to see the Michigan team to see if they were as good at the BU team he saw on a regular basis.  After every goal he scored he commented in amazement about how good this player or that player for Michigan was.  He spent the whole game with his jaw dropped.  At one point midway through the third period with us already up by double digits, the crowd (mostly students) started chanting "F%$^ the Irish" The guy turned to me and said, "Boy, they don't let up do they?"  As he was saying that, we scored another goal.  I responded as I put both hands in the air for the goal count, "Neither does the team".   

In many ways, Red was Bo, and Bo was Red.  All the qualities that we admired in Bo, toughness, loyality, belief in hard work, dedication to making sure that his players were true student-athletes, integrity, tatical genius, Red had in spades.  He just did it longer, but on a smaller stage.

Thank You Red, for making me a hockey fan.

In the 60s and 70s,

Bob Ufer would have hosted the thing.  That would have gotten everyone fired up.

There's an old quote "Never attribute to a conspiracy an action that can be explained by incompetence" or words to that effect.
We were in section 19 It was at least 50/50 near us, if not more Michigan fans. I'd say it was 40% Us / 60% throughout the stadium.
So did Northwestern

https://youtu.be/7UVQP7RMG50

 

and BYU,and Maryland, and Indiana, etc.

If there have been three forfeits, the AD of the dominant team

is scheduling wrong.

Why not have the smaller school teams like Granite Falls play the freshman or Junior varsity team from the Archbishop Murphy?  The Archbishop Murphy should be looking to get higher profile matchups for his varsity team if everyone in their conference is scared to play them this year.  It's not fair to the kids from either team to have them miss games, because the adults can't go the extra mile to find appropriate opponents for both teams.

Race relations aren't "as bad as they've been in 40 years"

our awareness of those problems has changed.  

Anyone who grew up in a largly african american community knows that unequal treatment of people of color by law enforcement is not a new phenomenon.  Remember Rodney King? Remember the Detroit Riots of 67?  The Watts riots of 65?  There have been countless cases of publicized police brutality over the last 60 years or so.  Driving While Black has been around for decades.  You can argue about one particular case or another, but the data is pretty clear, african-american men are shot by police at a rate far greater than their percentage of the population would suggest.  That's a societal problem

The idea that attitudes about racial relations are somehow manipulated by the media or by politicians is incredibly insulting to the people of color who are the victims of that bias.  You think the protesters are so stupid that they have to be told that they are being discriminated against?  How condescending.  Do you think the members of your family were "taught to hate cops", or do you think they formed their own opinion based on their interactions with law enforcement?  

No, what's changed is that with the change in technology, white america has begun to see the reality that african-americans, and other people of color have had to deal with decades (or more).  

Why would the administration need to

throw the Paterno Loyalists a bone"?  

Paterno betrayed the trust of countless kids, the players who played for him and he professed to love, and the university he claimed was the most important thing to him.  People who put his legacy above the name of the university and doing the community a disservice and shouldn't be "thrown a bone".  They should be told to take a hike, just like Paterno was.  It's people like them that allowed this to happen, that allowed football to become more important than the safety and well being of children.  It's this sort of "Joe can do no wrong attitude" that allowed him to operate outside of the law for so long, and allowed him to pretend that what he knew was going on wasn't really going on and wasn't worthy of his time or his concern.

Plan Two is good

but I would substitute Washtenaw Dairy for Stucchi's.  A little out of the way, but well worth it.