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|1 hour 16 min ago||I wouldn't vilify him||
But I would certainly be disappointed if it takes him this long to say "no". If you really want to stay in the NFL, then make a firm commitment. You don't have to wait for NFL offers to know...you will be wanted by many teams.
|3 hours 23 min ago||It's one thing||
If he had a legit argument.
|3 hours 34 min ago||Good God||
I don't know of any other university that gets routinely trashed and trampled on by its prominent alumni in the media. I don't. get. The hate.
|5 hours 12 min ago||Yeah||
Not gonna lie, I've had a similar thought as well. I'd be glad if Harbaugh cane to M, but part of me is really uncomfortable to see such a ludicrous number for a college football head coach.
|20 hours 16 min ago||Well...||
Why are you so sure that the "retrograde thinking and lack of planning" of past recent coaching searches applies in this case as well, especially considering how different it has been so far from anything in the past? Hackett is leading this search in a way I have never seen before. His openness in his press conference was a signal to me that things are different this time. I don't know...maybe I'm just being optimistic. I somehow doubt he wouldn't have a clear backup plan in the event they don't get Harbaugh.
|22 hours 32 min ago||My $0.02||
They both can't be true, but the obvious question is...why do both reports exist from "insiders"?
Here's my thoughts. SF has one year left on his contract.. Barring off-the-field issues, you don't just fire a coach with the track record of Harbaugh when he has 1 year left on his contract. No, you try to get value out of it...trade him. And it's obvious the trade talk has centered around the Raiders. So the fact that "Harbaugh to the Raiders is getting real" has come out is that, perhaps, a trade has been proposed and accepted by both sides in principle (behind the scenes, obviously, given the NFL rules) by those in the NFL organizations with a vested interest in Harbaugh and his contract value. The key here is that what Harbaugh wants to do could mean nothing when it comes to trade talks. I'm not sure what Harbaugh is actually telling the 49ers management or the Raiders, but that is somewhat inconsequential in my mind. And even still, it's quite possible Harbaugh is saying he's interested while at the same time telling others something else. And its also possible Harbaugh is actually considering both options...in terms of likelihood, who knows what is the more likely option for him.
Now, add in the increasing intensity of "Harbaugh to Michigan" insider info. What do insiders in the M community have to possibly gain by getting the fans' hopes up? Nothing. Because if M does not get Harbaugh, there will be many angry people here, and many will be quite upset with the insiders. As far as I'm concerned, that's too much of a risk to get the story out there unless you really know something is going on with the "Harbaugh to Michigan" stuff behind the scenes. If Jim were really not going to take the job, we would surely know by now, and insider chatter would slowly start the "let-down" process for fans to prepare for that "no" answer. That isn't happening though, at least so far. The opposite is. And as for Jim himself, I keep going back to...Jim loves Michigan. He wouldn't be stringing us along unless he was at the very least heavily considering the option
My sticking point: I guess I just have a hard time seeing M insiders getting giddy over nothing, given how much it could really hurt the whole process to go from HE IS DEFINITELY COMING YOU GUYS to, ...nope...especially with what has happened in the last 2 coaching searches.
|22 hours 51 min ago||Sounds more like||
Win-lose, only the losing side at least has a silver lining for you.
|1 day 3 hours ago||Yup||
Especially aggravating when Michigan is so good at marketing itself anyway. It's like he ignored that and changed everything. The right approach would be to let Michigan market itself, and sprinkle in a few marketing bits on top (one good example: the night game experience. Brandon actually did that right I think) Not to go full on bull in a china shop with Skywriting! Noodles! Block Ms everywhere! Brought to you by Chobani! Fireworks! Wow experience you guys! RAWK!!!
|2 days 1 hour ago||Us vs. the world||
Hmm....sounds like a certain somebody who no longer works for Michigan (and I don't mean Brady Hoke).
|2 days 2 hours ago||Eh, I'm not so sure how strong of a point it was||
Michigan's recruiting class was small to begin with...it became embarassingly small by the time Hoke got fired.
Obviously waiting to get Harbaugh is a risk, but it's not a risk M would be willing to take unless it had some confidence that they had a chance to actually lure Harbaugh home .And you don't go out of your way to hire some coach who isn't your top choice just because you don't want to wait too long. The last thing Michigan needs to be here is impatient. zYes, it will sacrifice a recruiting class. But, as Brian has said, if ever there was a year to sacrifice a recruiting class for the sake of hiring the right coach, this would be it.
|2 days 20 hours ago||Yes, exactly||
I hate seeing 2012 lumped in with 2013 and 2014, for exactly that reason. The bowl game that season was pretty damn entertaining that was a coinflip at the end (despite the loss), and the silver lining of Denard getting injured was the emergence of Devin Gardner in the second half of the season, leading many of us to believe 2013 and/or 2014 could be good years with dark-horse Big Ten Championship possibilities.
Instead it all came crashing down. I am still dumbfounded that they went 0-2 against Rutgers and Maryland.
|3 days 5 hours ago||What's remarkable||
Is Michigan vastly underachieved against a modest, conservative 8-win prediction.
|3 days 21 hours ago||This coaching search, man....||
So, he's probably definitely maybe coming, according to Brian...and he's probay definitely maybe not coming, because of either Oakland making "big changes" or Ross seemingly going back on his word and considering Harbaugh again for the Dolphins.
|5 days 21 hours ago||Particularly because||
That "brand" was built off of the backs of thousands of those "fleeting four year relationships". The block M didn't just magically become special. It happened over decades of success.
|6 days 3 hours ago||He's started two flipping games||
And played in garbage time in others.
|1 week 19 hours ago||Yeesh||
To be a Wisky fan...your last two coaches were poached by freaking Arkansas and Oregon State. I mean, that's not exactly anything better than a lateral move. Yeesh.
|1 week 1 day ago||People||
R E L A X
|1 week 1 day ago||Big deal||
No need to freak out people. No freaking way he was offered when Harbaugh hasn't been officially offered. And while M is still one of the best jobs, that doesn't automatically mean everyone's interested. R E L A X.
|1 week 2 days ago||Baffled||
I'm still baffled about the "not coaching at all" option. Can someone enlighten me as to how this is as likely an option as him going to M? I don't know where he will coach, but I would be shocked if he didn't coach anywhere.
|1 week 2 days ago||So...||
|1 week 2 days ago||Yup||
Definitely sounds like they're struggling.
|1 week 3 days ago||Read them again||
The +1500 you're referring to is the odds he coaches any other NCAA program. There's another entry called "Does Not Coach in 2015 Season" with odds listed at +250. Which seems bonkers to me. Harbaugh isn't the type of guy to have a grudge so bad with management that he ends up not even coaching next year...he'll either coach (whether the 49ers like it or not), or he'll be traded/fired and hired by someone else.
|1 week 3 days ago||Ummm...||
The odds Harbaugh does not coach next year anywhere are higher than the odds he goes to Michigan or stays in SF. I'm calling BS on these odds based off of that.
|1 week 3 days ago||Unless...||
Unless they know that Harbaugh is going to accept the M job and they want to save face by firing him first. Honestly this sounds plausible to me. #wishfulthinking
|1 week 3 days ago||Perspective||
I'm OK with OSU being in. Fair or not, they DO get credit for winning a championship game, and not only that but demolishing a pretty good team. Sucks, but it happened to us in 2006.
|1 week 3 days ago||Actually||
After Okie State beat OU, their resume only got worse.
|1 week 4 days ago||Here's the thing||
He doesn't *need* the leverage. And considering it's his alma mater, which surely he still loves (does he want to alienate all of his friends who are Mich alums and former teammate?)...
|1 week 4 days ago||He loves me...||
He loves me not....
|1 week 4 days ago||OH no doubt||
No doubt that was an awful brain fart, and OU fans havea right to be upset about that decision for sure. It happens to the best. The only solace for OU fans is there is no functional difference between an 8-win season and a 9-win season, except for losing to your in-state rival and having to hear about it all year round (though OSU doesn't have much to brag about either...they needed an improbable comeback victory at OU to even become bowl eligible.)
|1 week 4 days ago||Oh man.||
OU fans are pissed right now, judging by facebooks statuses of my OU friends. I don't think OU fans understand how valuable Stoops is to them. But hey, if they don't want him anymore, and if he is sick and tired of the way fans treat him there, that's fine! He can come to Michigan. I'd be thrilled with that hire!
I see a coach with an overhyped team from the preseason (based off of a win against Bama in the Sugar Bowl) having a slightly down year who still got to 8 wins anyway. Three of the 4 losses were by a total of 8 points. Today was practically a win, if not for the AWFUL special teams breakdown (ironically, had they declined the running-into-the-kicker penalty, which they should have honestly, they would have likely won)
But OU fans see a bunch of dumbstupids who deserve to be fired now, apparently. I don't think they know what it's like to watch a team that really sucks. They are spoiled by their success.
Stoops is the one guy I would consider taking even before Harbaugh has a chance to give us a solid answer.