I'VE HAD JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF YOU SONNY
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|17 hours 26 min ago||NOt even close||
The Louisville game. Because it was for the championship.
I'm not even much of a basketball fan either.
A better question would be...would you rather the BB win vs. Louisville, or a FB win over OSU in 2006, which was the "Game of the Century" #1 vs. #2. That would be a much closer poll.
|2 days 16 hours ago||There are no moral victories||
Only moral losses.
Duh. It's science.
|2 days 19 hours ago||Off the top of my head...||
...oh I don't know...
41 points against Ohio State?
It was no fluke. Please don't call it a fluke.
|2 days 19 hours ago||Commence MGoMeltdown||
|3 days 18 hours ago||If they knew what was coming||
Then they got lucky. Because they clearly had no idea for the first 600 yards. Borges might have out thought himself on the call, but I call BS here.
|3 days 18 hours ago||Not to mention||
Michigan will undoubtedly be better next year. At least on paper they should be.
|3 days 18 hours ago||The||
The drop off won't be huge, you have a point. But I think senior Hyde with junior Miller are the best duo they'll have at RB/QB for a loooooong time. They'll still have miller but losing Hyde is a big deal (kinda sorta like losing Mike Hart)
|4 days 2 hours ago||Beating an undefeated team is hard||
Yeah, it sucks to lose. Yeah, I haaaaate that we've beaten them once in the past decade.
|5 days 12 hours ago||You are so confident in that||
I'm not going to convince you...but don't just sweep this aside.
What if this year is the aberration? What if Hoke's first year is the real indication of where this program could be with an experienced roster?
|5 days 12 hours ago||I don't know, man||
Winning a BCS bowl wasn't really that awful.
|5 days 17 hours ago||It's easy||
Michigan has one loss at home under Hoke.
|6 days 23 hours ago||Bo||
didn't live in an era with twitter.
But let's pretend like that's irrelevant. Right.
|6 days 23 hours ago||For the life of me||
I don't understand why it's OK to reduce Hoke as a coach as simply being a "figurehead"? What an insult to the man and his job.
There's no way you, me, or any other fan can possibly make that evaluation. Hoke's day-to-day coaching is probably extremely hands on, and I bet you a dollar that every player on that team would take offense to someone characterizing (cariacaturing?) him as simply a "figurehead coach".
|1 week 11 hours ago||I had no idea we lost to OSU already.||
Are you from the future?
|1 week 15 hours ago||Yes, IFFFFF||
They did not, though.
|1 week 21 hours ago||You must be selectively reading then||
"We're just not playing in sync, and that’s my responsibility. We’ve got to find a way in this football game and whatever games are left to get back in sync. There’s a good offense in there"
|1 week 23 hours ago||The only man who should care is Dave Brandon||
And the only way he notices is if the seats don't sell out or the boosters stop giving their support.
|1 week 23 hours ago||You're confusing two things||
I don't think we have any right to judge another person's decision to renew or not renew season tickets. That's a big committment to make. By all means, don't buy the tickets if you're not satisfied with where the program is and cannot justify the expense. You don't owe Michigan football anything at that point. It's a big expense, and if you'd rather take your money elsewhere, then fine. It doesn't necessarily mean you have given up on Michigan at all...you may still watch the games on TV, anyway. There is a bit of fairweather mindedness to it, but I'm not going to heavily chastise you for doing it, because it's not my money. College football is becoming exceedingly expensive to attend. Brian has a point here (though how it relates to Hoke's super bad f-word the other day is suspect at best)
Where my bigger issue comes is with those who have bought the tickets but then sell the ones for the most important game of the year to fans of your archrival. That makes you very VERY fairweather. If you don't want to go, then fine, don't go (you're still fairweather, but whatever) But I'd rather it be an empty seat than a tool in red. If you really must sell your ticket, then at least go through the effort to sell it to a fellow Michigan fan. If you really care about Michigan enough, you'll go through that effort.
|1 week 1 day ago||Nebraska||
Literally one play from a win. Nebraska had a 4th and 2....probably committed a false start and the D didn't step up to make that stop. With a stop M could practically take a knee and win.
|1 week 1 day ago||Snark||
That's just the MGoFaithful replicating their fearless leader. This has always be a very snarky blog. Lately, it's made it nearly impossible to "debate" with anyone when they think being snarky is a valid response.
|1 week 1 day ago||Why is that a bad quote?||
Borges is saying that his offense can play with anyone, that they are capable of being great. You look at it as throwing players under the bus...I guarantee you Borges meant it as an offer of hope that his guys are more than capable of getting the job done.
|1 week 1 day ago||They care||
Tp think they don't give two shits about fans is wrong. Flat out wrong. They care. They see empty seats. If there's a lot of red, they'll see it. They will shake it off and try to play like it doesn't matter, and maybe it wouldn't, but it would be a hell of a lot easier if home advantage is actually, you know, an advantage. No, fans being in seats is not the difference between a win and a loss. But if you don't think it matters...then I don't know what to tell you.
I mean, we had a whole story about fans booing at the Nebraska game, clearly in disagreement with the stupid playcall of run up the middle for no gain. That really affected the players...they talked about how they had to band together and ignore the boos, that they were alone in it. And this was for boos that weren't even directed at them! Now imagine a stadium half full of red singing OHIO chants. You don't think that matters?
|1 week 1 day ago||Yeah I kinda figured||
that's what you meant. We are in agreement anyway...your last paragraph is exactly my view. And why I think prices don't matter in this argument...if you bought a ticket already, then GO TO THE GAME. It's not just some game...it's THE game. You may not be satisfied with how much you spent for them, and that it looks like a likely loss given the team's underwhelming performance so far...but at this point why go back on it? Of all the games to give up, THIS is not one. Not if you really call yourself a Michigan fan.
If it upsets those that much then...fine don't buy the ticket in the future. By all means. That's fickle too, but not nearly as fickle as selling a ticket you already bought to an OSU fan.
My last point on this: imagine what Bo would say if he was asked this very same question. He maybe wouldn't use that super naughty mean f-word, but he sure as hell wouldn't have nice things to say about them either.
|1 week 1 day ago||There's only so much negativity I can take||
And the team hasn't gone 1-6. Yet.
See...to me, there may not be a lot of hope for Saturday, but as long as there's a game being played I still have hope that michigan will win. I had hope in the 2008 game against OSU. It's part of being a fan. The fickleness is just plain giving up on them just because they don't live up to your expectations. You can complain about Hoke said...but it's not like he was totally off-base with his comments (like how RR wasn't either). It's not like he publicly cursed out his fanbase after a win like a certain Bo Pelini did recently.
And for all the self-loathing around here lately, this team is still going to wind up being no worse than RR's best season here (in terms of wins and losses, at least).
So, there is plenty of reason to be upset with how things have looked this year. I'm fucking pissed off too. Even though I have been one of guys preaching patience with borges (as much as he has been terrible this year), I would happily embrace it if Hoke fired him. But there's only so much negativity and "FIRE XXXX" BS and nitpicking one word out of a presser I can take before it just gets to be way overboard. I mean, for fuck's sake, there are some (very few, but still, some) posters here who think a win would be the worst thing Michigan can do on Saturday! That's plain ridiculous.
I want Michigan to win so damn badly, just so people will shut up and stop bitching so damn much about things they can't control.
|1 week 1 day ago||Haha, touche.||
I am being a tad bit fickle here. Nobody has to give a rat's ass whether I decide to leave the blog or not, obviously.
But I'm not selling my MGoBlog membership to an OSU troll. And I'm still here (for now).
|1 week 1 day ago||I don't get this thinking.||
If you start off low the only way you have to go is up (btw, his wins went up, but decidedly not his defense)
|1 week 1 day ago||I don't think so.||
Hoke is very straightforward. He was asked about the sea if red and responded by saying they (as in the M fans who sold their tickets to OSU fans) are being fickle. Brian is still going to the game. So I don't think it was a personal thing, but for some reason he took it personally.
|1 week 1 day ago||Nothing to do with prices||
I wouldn't call you "fickle" if you pay a lot for tickets one year and decide that the increased prices and mediocre product don't justify purchasing the same tickets next year. That's simple cost-benefit analysis. It's a personal decision, and only you know your finances. I know plenty of M football fans that can't justify the expense anymore. That's most certainly Brandon's fault.
I would call you fickle for paying money for a full season of tickets, then bailing on THE MOST IMPORTANT GAME OF THe YEAR because they're not as good as you thought and oh noes they're probably going to lose.
Michigan needs their fans the most this weekend. And they're bailing. That's being extremely fickle. And Hoke has every right to be upset about it and say what he said.
And I have no idea how this isn't a touch hyprocritical of Brian. He was a guy who rightly said the media was being way too harsh on RR that one time when he said not nice things about some dumb fans. And now Hoke does essentially the same thing, and Brian is giving him the same critical treatment that the mainstream guys were giving RR in 2008.
|1 week 1 day ago||You're going to sit there and tell me||
that the loss to PSU, or Nebraska, or Iowa, is worse than the blowout humiliation against Sparty? Really? Really.
|1 week 1 day ago||I don't always agree with your views||
But here I could not agree with you more.