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|10 hours 40 min ago||And?||
Does this somehow invalidate the advanced rankings that already take in account strength of opponent?
|10 hours 46 min ago||I agree||
And honestly, I don't think anyone really knows how much of a possibility any Harbaugh really is at this point. I would give it a very small chance at this point, though it is at least plausible in my mind...the convenience of Michigan seeking a new coach at a time when Jim will be looking for a new job next year cannot be ignored. With John Harbaugh, I have no idea what his relationship with the Ravens is at this point after the Ray Rice crap, and it does seem doubtful he would eave that job right now...but who the hell knows. I'm not exactly waiting with bated breath for either to come here. I could see it happening, but I'm not going to believe it until it does, especially given the history of it really never happening before.
|12 hours 43 min ago||Sure||
That may be true, but that doesn't make it an impossible thing to happen either. Until something happens to DB/Hoke, we really will have no idea what the future holds for Michigan.
But I mean, I also have never seen a coach as successful as Harbaugh in his first 3 NFL years, who took his team to a superbowl just two years ago, piss so many people off that trading him to Cleveland was an actual, real thing that might have happened.
In other words, just because it hasn't happened before doesn't mean it won't happen. Urban Meyer left coaching after two national championships at Florida, citing "health reasons", only to return not one year later to coach at OSU. Has anything like that ever happened before? Doubtful.
|13 hours 2 min ago||Look||
I know grudges are a thing, but I sincerely doubt Harbaugh has soured so much that he would never even consider the job. We would have heard that by now if it were true.
And honestly, if Michigan is willing to (finally) make the changes necessary for a guy like Harbaugh to come, wouldn't that be enough to get over a silly past grudge? This isn't high school, guys. Les MIles has as much (if not more) of a reason to hold a grudge, and yet no one seems to talk about that...he would still come here in a heartbeat if Michigan offered him the job, despite never being offered each of the last two times that the job opened up.
|13 hours 26 min ago||Yup||
And honestly, if his biggest contingency was "I will not come if DB is the AD", then that is enough to fire DB right now. Shit, if Harbaugh would come only if he got to choose the next AD, I say let him! I wouldn't mind any of the candidates listed for AD because they all have two very good qualities 1) being not DB, 2) actually having experience as an AD at an FBS school.
|16 hours 43 min ago||This stood out to me||
"He took all the practice reps with the second string that week."
That is some serious coaching malpractice. They had apparently decided on Sunday who the starter would be the next week. They had absolutely no intention of there being an "active competition" throughout the week.
Am I overreacting here? Because that quote really bothers me for some reason. I had not heard that he didnt ake one snap with the ones that week.
|17 hours 33 min ago||I agree with you here, Ron||
Scheme matters in how you attack the defense. But no scheme can overcome the inability of the players executing that scheme. Who's to blame? When it's a game here or there, you might be able to place blame on the players for not playing up to their level of talent. When it's a systemic year-long problem, it is most assuredly on the coaches. Especially since it's up to the coaches to put their players in positions to succeed. And according to some UFRs, it's baffling some of the decisions the coaches are making in personnel.
Of course, what does that mean? How much culpability is on Hoke, Nuss, and the positional coaches each? Personally, I think Nuss should get the least amount of blame at this point. He's working with what he's got, and it's really not fair to fully evaluate him based on 7 games here when he has a head coach and position coaches who have been here an additional 3 years beyond that and can't seem to get the players to execute the simplest of tasks. Nussmeier's playcalling hasn't exactly been stellar of course, and it does seem criminal how underused both Devins are so far...and yet, I'm not even sure how much of that blame is on him when Hoke may be dictating more than I had previously thought.
One thing I know for sure...Michigan is the place where coaches go to die. Nussmeier was a completely competent coach before he got here. Mattison was lauded as one of the best DCs, and yet after that awesome 2011 turnaround his defense has been rather underwhelming as well by his standards. RR...well, we all know what happened there. Shafer was prematurely scapegoated and run out of town and now is a head coach. Shoot, Brian mentioned Tony Freaking Gibson and his story of success as freaking DC against Baylor, of all offenses. All of those coaches...every last one of them, has been competent at places other than Michigan. Perhaps the problem isn't those coaches...perhaps the problem is Michigan. I don't know what that means or how it needs to be fixed, but I am so fucking tired of seeing good coaches fail miserably at Michigan, and only Michigan. Damn it.
|4 days 14 hours ago||It IS out of the ordinary.||
"What I will say is that as long as I get what I want, I'm happy. And I don't care how I get it. It seems like that opinion is out of the ordinary."
It IS out of teh ordinary. Especially at a place like Michigan. Do you really want a football team that oversigns, cuts players and schollies, does things that violate NCAA rules just to get a team that is good? I sure as hell don't. Part of my deep fandom with michigan is the perception of doing things the right way. Now, Michigan is far from perfect in that regard. But I like to believe it is better than the average Power 5 school in terms of following the rules and doing things the way that the NCAA intended them to be. One of the reasons why I held out hope for Hoke for so long (and if I'm honest with myself, still do even now that his chances to succeed are vanishingly small) is that Hoke definitely embodies what it means to run the program "the right way" with how he treates his athletes.
That's important to me, and I suspect, many other Michigan fans. I wouldn't want that to go away all in the name of winning. I don't have a "win at all costs" mentality with Michigan. Maybe that's why Michigan will never be elite...I don't know...I just refuse to give in to the idea that Michigan can't win by being Michigan. Shoot, Northwestern never changed it's identity and yet they found a way to be a successful program with Pat Fitzgerald.
That might have been tangential to the DB topic, but I think it's still relevant to the idea that we shouldn't care how we get what we want as long as we get it. Because in my opinion, we SHOULD care.
|4 days 15 hours ago||Intentions don't matter? At Michigan of all places? Disagree.||
Intentions matter. If his intentions were to maximize revenue and to do it at all costs, then that's a problem. In fact, that's THE problem that many have with DB to date.
If his intentions were to lower student ticket prices only because of the massive public pressure and backlash he's received, then that's a problem. Because as that old saying goes, "The ends don't always justify the means." Why did it take this long for DB to get the message? Why wasn't he seemingly listening to students before the the chants, the petitions, the letters, the fucking rallies?
What he did here is good. Lowering student prices is good, obviously. But it definitely matters what his motives are. And it could be true that he has good intentions in all of this...but you have to forgive me and many others here who have a sense that his intentions are not at all pure given how things have unfolded.
|4 days 15 hours ago||The man waited until public pressure was too high||
Look, the move is good, obviously. But it's also plainly obvious that there are ulterior motives associated with this move, and many are still bitter that it took THIS much pressure before DB finally relented. That's not exactly "responding to a request", that's caving in to insurmountable public pressure.
Applaud the move, fine. But you can't chastise people for thinking that DB's motives are, at best, suspect, given his rich history of PR "miscommunications" and oddly timed things.
|4 days 15 hours ago||RE: accessible||
I remember when you could just walk into Michigan stadium if you felt like it. Then DB came in and shut it off from public access.
That kinda seems like the overarching metaphor to what DB has done to "Fort Schembechler" since taking over.
|4 days 17 hours ago||He's a risk,||
He's a risk to be hired as an offensive coordinator at Michigan, let alone the head coach. It's great he has had success at the Mines, but how his style translates to Division I football is not at all clear. I, frankly, don't understand the obsession.
|5 days 17 hours ago||Eh||
Most teams wouldn't do very well when their third string QB is suddenly thrust in the game against a pretty stout defense.
|1 week 16 hours ago||My last post on it||
Hoke called the timeout not expecting a Hail Mary but a punt. It was just a touch of gamesmanship, to which Franklin responded with his own (a Hail Mary not a pubt). Honestly, that's it. I think we just need to leave it at that. I don't know why so many are dwelling on it.
|1 week 1 day ago||Yeah||
The "sources" thing does bring doubt into it for sure. Who the hell knows though. Maybe it's denial, but I refuse to think that the coaches were THAT obtuse about that situation. And whether it was for the right or wrong reasons...the coaches still made a risky, but justifiable move, and still made the proper adjustment once Denard went down and Bellomy was clearly NOT the answer.
|1 week 1 day ago||I'm not necessarily defending the timeout||
Personally, Hoke should have just let the clock run out, or yeah, taken the timeout with at least 10 seconds on the clock to give Penn State less incentive to run a hail mary and risk handing the ball to Michigan with time on the clock.
But I'm just saying it's not the worst decision of the game, and that it's nowhere near the worst decision of the game from either coach. And honetsly, it's nowhere near the worst decision Hoke has made this year. So I'm going to cut Hoke a little slack for something that really wasn't nearly as bad or "incorrect" as some are making it out to be.
|1 week 1 day ago||In hindsight, sure||
But it's impossible to know how a kid will respond in a game until he...gets put in a game. Criticizing the coaches for it after the fact seems a bit unfair, especially since they addressed the issue immediately after the Nebraska game ended anyway.
(Tangential thought...I remember something about how the FSU coaches were leery of how Winston would play in the game given how goofy of a freshman he was. It's not like they knew he was a Heisman-level QB before his first snap at FSU.)
|1 week 1 day ago||Really,?||
I'm sorry, but the timeout from Franklin in the 4th quarter was objectively worse than Hoke's timeout at halftime, and it's not even close. The decision is OBVIOUSLY PUNT THE BALL because you are not converting 4th and 32 from the 1 yard line. The timeout saved all of one yard and more or less forced them into a situation where they needed an onside kick recovery AND a touchdown...rather than a defensive 3-and-out with 2 timeouts to burn clock and a drive for just a field goal to tie.
Also it seems to me that Penn State's decision to throw a hail mary there is arguably as risky as Hoke's decision to force Penn State to run another play (what if Hackenburg had fumbled the ball, or thrown an interception that got returned for a TD?). In the end nothing remotely terrible came of it anyway. I was definitely confused by it at the time...but I think it was just some gamesmanship, that's all. Is there a little bit of confirmation bias going on here? Because now it seems like any decision Hoke makes is automatically the wrong one just because.
|1 week 1 day ago||I didn't gave a problem with the timeout||
It was strange, for sure. A little gamesmanship on Hokes part, and Franklin responded with a little of his own by not punting. Had Hoke called timeout at least 5 seconds earlier it might have forced a punt. In the end it was inconsequential, nothing remotely notable happened on the Hail Mary. So I'm not going to sit here and tell at Hoke for trying something different, even if he didn't "execute" it well.
|1 week 2 days ago||Ugh, injuries||
I've felt the same way about my Red Wings the past 5ish years...why the hell can they NOT avoid injuries, ever? I guess sometimes bad luck is really really bad.
The bye week could not come at a better time...hopefully the extra week off will get the injured the rest they need to get back into shape to contend with Sparty.
|1 week 2 days ago||I agree||
And add the odds of recovering an onside kick are around 10%. Multiply by the odds of driving 60ish yards for a touchdown...not very good, but given the wasted timeout it's the best they had at that point.
|1 week 2 days ago||I've seen false starts where the player barely moves||
I've seen a defensive lineman barely get across the LOS and the offense got a free play out of it.
|1 week 2 days ago||Wait||
So now we're criticizing Brandon for not creating an evironment like every other stadium?
Look, I want DB fired ASAP. He's done more harm than good. But I can also recognize real success in the UTL productions...So far UTL has been a great thing for Michigan. I don't know of any other teams in the country who do halftime marching band light shows.
I don't know how long these yearly UTL things can last, but this was only its third time ever in Michigan's long history. I'm not going to fault DB for something like that. In fact, DB actualy deserves quite a lot of credit for making UTL happen, considering Michigan had stubbornly refused to do any night games until 2012.
|1 week 2 days ago||I agree||
Hagerup has been doing those short line drive punts far too often the last two years. Yesterday was completely different. Every punt had great air time and pretty good distance. His only real slip up was a punt that sailed 5-10 yards too far and made it to the end zone.
|1 week 2 days ago||Yes nicely done||
And for all of you fawning over OSU's halftime show earlier this year and saying "Why can't our band of that?!?" Welll...here you go. Great production.
|1 week 3 days ago||Have you stopped to consider||
That maybe that's his way of getting amped up for the game? That's his way to stay loose and ready for the next play? To stay focused? Everybody's different. He looks like the type of guy that plays better when he's engaged and having a little fun.
|1 week 3 days ago||1st quarter was disturbing||
Michigan gave up two very long time consuming drives, fortunate that each ended up as FGs only. The INT put them in a bad stop, but they still had a chance to stop them on 3rd and goal and they didn't. It was disturbing to see Belton averaging 7.0 ypc after his first 8ish runs.
|1 week 3 days ago||For fuck's sake||
What possible reason could ANYONE think after the first 6 games of the season that Michigan "should have dominated" a 4-1 Penn State team? Also, 256 yards of offense sure isn't inspiring, but PSU has a legit good defense, Bellomy had to play two series and Gardner was significantly hampered by injury. Also, our defense had begun to completely shut down PSU's offense. These things affect playcalling, ya know. In the end, it was a win.
|1 week 3 days ago||Go blue!||
Winning is much better than losing. Posbang orgy to celebrate!
|1 week 3 days ago||Great slate of games||
Made even better by the fact that I don't have to go stream hunting for any of them except a crappy MSU game I have no interest in watching.