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1 week 1 day ago	Subjective	It's a matter of preference. There is no absolute with regards to what level is right. But I see what you are saying...the nfl is clearly inferior. I live in Wisconsin and I guarantee you that the Badgers are an afterthought when it comes to football preference.
1 week 1 day ago	Not really	In order to win an overtime game one defense has to outplay the opponents offense...eventually Every game is the result of a team effort. Giving both teams possession allows both offense and defense to take the field. Consider it allowing the defense to have a chance to stop the other team.
1 week 1 day ago	Hockey is not a good comparison.	Hockey has a faceoff and constant change of possession which makes sudden death legitimate. Football has a coin toss to determine possession. With hockey both teams have an equal shot from the get go but football is slanted heavily toward the winner of a coin toss.
1 week 6 days ago	8 Team Playoff = 7 games	Four first round games Two second round games One Championship
2 weeks 17 hours ago	Seriously	Why do I not see any love for Barton City?
2 weeks 1 day ago	Never understood this one	If a Tennessee coach votes against Michigan in 1997 then somehow it is Manning's fault? Even if Manning thought he was robbed of the Heisman (something that I've never heard him say) why would a Michigan fan dislike him for LOSING to Woodson? Tom Brady was on a team coached by arguably the greatest NFL coach in history.  After watching Michigan play recently it's safe to say that top notch coaching is a big deal.  No disrespect to Dungy but he is not on Belichick's level. As Harbaugh says, it's not a good idea to compare great to great because it only means a great is diminished.
5 weeks 2 days ago	Too high up the food chain	My understanding is that UofM's athletic department operates financially independently from the university.  He fires Brandon and hires Hackett.  That's all he really has to do right? Maybe tell Hackett to help find a permanent AD and perhaps make sure that he is operating in the black.  What more do we want? Fandom is traveling too far up the food chain.  Going from armchair quarterbacks to armchair coaches is one thing, but moving up to armchair ADs and armchair Presidents is a bit over the top.  Why can't we just be fans, hope Hackett hires Harbaugh, forget about him WHEN it happens and just root some victories on Saturdays?  It's less stressfull that way.
7 weeks 6 days ago	Perhaps	If a coach resigns because of a record he is basically admitting that he is not good enough to do the job.  If he is admitting that by himself then who would want to give him a chance later on?
12 weeks 6 days ago	yes but..	What scandals are we talking about? Shane Morris was a Hoke problem, and the email incident is a non-issue.  Am I missing something.  Even the Coke issue was a Hoke problem because can we honestly expect that promotion to happen if the team was playing well? I get that people are upset over the mistreatment, but that can be rectified by Brandon pretty easily.
12 weeks 6 days ago	Me too	I have the same mindset.  If the top candidates don't want to work for Brandon then its best to dismiss him.  There is an issue, though, in that it may give the next coach a sense of power over the AD.
12 weeks 6 days ago	If the problem is...	If the problem is that the team is performing poorly then it is silly to think anyone other than Hoke is the main problem. Because everyone is out for blood any small meaningless thing gets blown way out of proportion and used as reason to call for a firing.  I'm not in the save Brandon court, but I think the decision to retain or fire him should consider this: Any outrage over the noodle is silly.  Nobody in their right minds should expect it to be a permanent fixture in the stadium. Snarky emails are a non-issue.  Maybe they shouldn't have been sent, but Brandon is probably responding to angry/pushy emails with snark. The Shane Morris fiasco is Hoke's fault and not Brandon's. Brandon does not coach the football team. Ticket prices can be lowered.  Ammenities can be provided or improved. Firing the AD because of the football team's performance is beyond a dumb idea.
14 weeks 5 days ago	Why the Oregon Comparisons	It seems that every time we roll out an alternate jersey there are comparisons to Oregon. Here are our alternate jerseys since 2011: 2011 ND 2011 MSU 2012 Sugar Bowl 2012 Alabama 2013 Outbak Bowl 2014 PSU By my count that is a total of six since 2011, and really only one in the last two years.  That’s not really Oregon-like.  Sure our home uniforms are awesome, but with the infrequency that we roll out these alternates I don’t see any issue or threat.  This whole uniform thing is getting blown way out of proportion.  We can debate whether or not the alternates look good, but rolling out one uniform a season does not make us anything close to Oregon.
14 weeks 6 days ago	I know	Bill Martin will be best known for botching the Miles hire, but he was a pretty fantastic AD.  He brought the program into the black and hired John Beilein. We are all clammoring for an "ignore Michigan Man and get the best guy" approach for a new football coach and he did just that when he hired RR.  Granted RR didn't last, but he was a big name coach at the time of his hire.
17 weeks 18 hours ago	A much better option	Eliminate the chant altoghether.  I don't remember when the words were added (sometime between 04 and 08 from my recollection) but they are lame.  It especially is dumb when we are losing by a lot.  Either eliminate the words or change to something more appropriate given the situation on the field.
18 weeks 1 day ago	2 and 5	Let’s look at Beilein.  The knock on him coming in was that he wasn’t a good recruiter or, at least, there were doubts he could recruit at a high level.  He was regarded as a top flight Xs and Os coach, and I’m not sure where the stance on player development was, but I would venture that could have been identified as a strong suit.  To me this is the perfect example of the two traits that are absolutely necessary.  The other three (recruiter, face of the university, and fundraiser are very far down the list).  With many coaches, recruiting at a high level has not lead to success nor has stepping in to good situations lead to success.  Sure it’s nice to have the horses to compete, but if they aren’t coached properly it flat out does not matter one bit.  Charlie Weis, Brady Hoke, Muschamp are just three examples of this.  Being a fundraiser or the face of the university doesn’t really do anything for the program.  Sure you can desire a certain personality, but if you are a great coach it matters not how good of a speech you can give to a bunch of wealthy alumni.  I would say it is important to hire someone who won’t destroy the program due to out of control infractions, but that’s pretty avoidable.  It is my opinion that game management and player development are the foundation of a good program.  They will lead to success and with success comes the other three traits that you have desired.  Beilein is going after top 25 recruits and shattering the worry because he is winning games due to the fact that he can develop players and call a good game.  If Hoke is fired, the 1 and 1A traits that should be required are the ability to call a good game and develop players over time.  The second trait that would be desired is a strong attention to detail.   The third should be a strong hatred of losing.
19 weeks 4 days ago	Tate	If Tate learned to "play school" too and wasn't a headcase it would have been very interesting to see how he developed.  He could throw very well on the run and was pretty darn accurate.
19 weeks 5 days ago	I understand	I understand the sentiment and do recognize the importance of history.  My point was that what we do defines us rather than where we came from.  Our history and ancestry is important when it comes to respecting respectable tradition and the lessons/values learned in the past, but it ought not to define us.  There is an element of pride in history, and it ought to be used to motivate us to do positive things to the extent that it can motivate.  When it comes to football I get the sense that history and tradition is becoming less and less of a motivator.  When it comes to Michigan football it seems like there are a lot of folks who love to quote Bo and talk about the accomplishments of Yost and Crisler, but that isn’t going to bring us any victories.  It could lure a couple of recruits, but if there isn’t a coaching staff or team mentality that is “win the game” then all is lost.
19 weeks 6 days ago	What do you root for	Do you root for a team or a program?  The basis of fandom is not rooted in the program rather in the team.  Being a fan is about the present not about the past.  Sure we like to bring up the past to make our experience more exciting or to foster a greater connection to the program, but ultimately what it comes down to is the fact that the team that you are going to root for is not coached by Yost or Crisler or Bo.  There is only one team you root for an that is the present team because anything else is impossible.  All that other stuff is nice, but you don't root for the 69 wolverines now because that is history.  When times are tough you make tough decisions for the present and future and not hide in the past.
20 weeks 2 days ago	Jim Tressel or Brian Kelly	Seriously though, both of those coaches were hired to D1 programs from D2 or D1AA and they did fine.  The key is finding a coach who knows how to win and demands nothing less than excellence from his players.  If there is a coach at a lower level who has his team at the top every year and has won championships I could get behind a hire like that.  If we focus too much on a few big name guys we may end up having to settle if we aren't able to reel them in.
20 weeks 4 days ago	Congrats	Congrats.  Remember there is always something that has been written or that someone has done that tells you that you are parenting incorrectly.  Parents are always eager to give advice because they want to help and they may have a few things that were positives in their adventure.  This can overwhelm, so remember that all kids are different, with different personalities, skill sets, talents, and react to different stimuli.  What works for one may not work for another.  Learn to smile and nod politely. I got my daughter a stuffed wolverine from the M Den which we named Charles.  We taught her to say "go blue".  She recognizes Michigan and football so when I get excited and shout during the game she says "go blue."  Indoctrination is important from a fandom perspective, but I'm going to try to leave the academic side of it out.  If my daughters go to college I want them to be able to make an objective decision.  We like to joke about the poor academics at other schools, but when it comes down to it success academically and professionally is on the student and not the educator.  I hope you enjoy yourself.  Kids are fun to have around.
20 weeks 4 days ago	Fun	The ND rivalry has been fun.  With some exceptions, the games have been very competative and very exciting.  I can't think of another team that we've consistently played that has had a higher percentage of exciting games.  It has very much been a rivalry between two equals.  Say what you will of UofM's current dominance in the series, but historically and traditionally these teams are as close to equals as any two schools in the country.  This is probably why there is a lot of hatred between the schools.  If UofM were a Catholic school we would be ND and vice versa.  Many UofM and ND fans try so hard to rationalize fundamental differences when the reality is that there isn't much of a difference.  Both schools like to take pride in the history of the game and their influence on it, and both schools have had a big influence.  Why we wouldn't want to see them play with a greater frequency is beyond me.  I will miss the series because without it we don't have any non-conference rivals.  We will get excited about a big name opponent, but there won't be anything deeper than excitement.  There is no since of rivalry when we play Washington or UCLA or VT or Florida because those schools don't mean anything to Michigan.  It's more exciting to watch a game when it means more than a win or a loss.
20 weeks 5 days ago	This makes sense	When it comes to Michigan's rivalries I would rank OSU as the No. 1 rival but MSU as the most hated.
21 weeks 1 day ago	True	That extends from western Ohio through the entire states of Indiana and Illinois.
21 weeks 4 days ago	Best Case 12-0	From what I remember from last year the game against MSU was close until our offense ineptness coupled with their great defense wore us out.  I bet that if we fielded a functional offense last year's game would have been really close.  I can see us winning that gamein a best case scenario.
22 weeks 1 day ago	Arm Chair	Things were a lot nicer when we hoped for exciting matchups but didn't play armchair athletic director.
24 weeks 1 day ago	True	I would bet there are a lot more blue and white shirts in closets than maize. In fact I would bet that yellow shirts outside of team colors are pretty rare in comparison. This works well for the teams with a base color that is more prevalent like white, red and black.
24 weeks 1 day ago	Comparison	I think a lot of this thinking is the comparison of Shane to Russell.  It was pretty clear that Shane was not overwhelmed in his first real appearance whereas Russell was.  What we now optimistically believe is that Shane can follow the normal progression from backup to solid starter.  While he is only a sophomore and needs to improve there is hope based on his performance.  It will be a step down from Shane to Gardner, but there is hope that if Devin goes down we won't lose the rest of our games.  WRT Russell he may have gotten over his experience and could be much better now than he was at Nebraska.
30 weeks 4 days ago	Important	Eat a pasty or twelve.
30 weeks 4 days ago	A few places	Sleeping Bear Dunes/NW Lower Michigan is a great place to go.  My honeymoon was on Isle Royale and I can't wait to get back there.  It is the least visited NP, so there aren't many people there.  There is great hiking and some great views.  It is very peaceful. Pictured Rocks National Lakeshore.  If you camp check out Little Beaver Lake Campground.  there are only about a dozen sites, but there is 1-1.5 mile path that leads to a quiet Lake Superior beach.  You can hike along the shore for quite a ways without running into anybody.  If you are not afraid of the dark make that hike at night with a clear sky.  Porcupine Mountains State Park. Castle Rock is a quick stop and pretty neat. Sea Shell City. Depending on your interest in Catholicism/Christianity The Cross in the Woods at Indian River can be a nice stop. Have lunch or dinner at The Turkey Roost in Kawkawlin.
30 weeks 4 days ago	Dam Site Inn	The Dam Site Inn has great burgers.  I went there once in college and came away impressed.  It's not much to look at, but it was good.

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