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|10 hours 53 min ago||LOL||
You don't choose the Leafs. They choose you.
|11 hours 47 min ago||@Magnus||
I don't even know your work any more.
I was waiting for ttb rating -7
|11 hours 49 min ago||Easy new guy.||
|11 hours 58 min ago||"I wish"||
Closer than I'd like though...
|11 hours 59 min ago||But.||
How much in endorsements in Toronto for Stamkos? Huge.
If your argument was legit on money then the Blue Jays and Raptors couldn't retain their players which has not been an issue.
Can we bet a few tailgate beers on this? I have Canadian craft beer on offer here.
FWIW, I think Stamkos re-signs after kicking the tires.
|12 hours 9 min ago||I'll leave it here and answer your query clearly.||
As to how Toronto will move from brutal to good:
Hire quality front office (check)
Hire Detroit's coach (check)
Get exceptional prospects (check) keep solid core
Matthews/Marner/Nylander/Kapanen all top prospects to Hockey News etc.
VanReimsdyk, Reilly, Kadri, Gardiner all solid
Trade for Kerby Rychel today (not bad)
Get goalie that is not constantly injured so AHL goalie or Bernier is not starting (check). Average okay. (check)
Finally, you seem to forget this was a team that was purposively tanking since December to get Matthews or a top 3 pick. Clearly. Your analysis of the stats on the Leafs is pretty myopic when that is accounted. You can give me the prospects argument and I'll counter with LA, Chicago, Tampa in the past decade.
They will be young next year but not terrible; definitely on the rise.
I hope that's plain enough.
If I'm wrong in a year I'll own it.
|15 hours 42 min ago||Damn.||
That Nani dive was the worst.
Dislike the diving on both sides.
|15 hours 46 min ago||Salty.||
You forget Reimer spent the last several years dealing with post concussion syndrome and his save percentage pre/post was markedly different. Not the same player, frequently injured due to this, and the Leafs could not stay with Bernier/Sparks. Again, too scary.
Andersen, looking at the advanced stats as opposed to save percentage, is almost completely average over 125 games but I'd take that over what the Leafs had (Bernier/Reimer/Sparks) in the past years. Too scary to stay with that. Assuming the cap remains stable or rises slightly then $5 mil per for stable middle of the pack/avg. goaltending is a step up for the Leafs and reasonable.
FWIW, Bernier's advanced stats don't simply reflect his defence in front of him but diminishment in his play. The Leafs would never have made the Reimer/Andersen moves otherwise given the relative cost.
|16 hours 39 sec ago||Interesting||
Last time I went to a Tampa game for the Leafs (easier to get top end seats than Toronto) it was tons of Leaf fans (snowbirds mostly and a bunch of people who flew in) and I got awesome seats, free cokes and hot dogs! Good times.
|16 hours 2 min ago||My point is the same||
I can get tickets to any game in Detroit easy.
I attended games at the Joe in the 80's Reed Larson era also. It was even easier then but the same concept applies.
It's a front runner fanbase. I guess that happens when you make the playoffs all the time.
We'll see how things go with the Leafs. Remind me in a year if I'm wrong.
|16 hours 7 min ago||Michigan Wolverines Football...||
...stealing prospects from my Temple Owls.
|18 hours 48 min ago||A bit of clarification?||
a) All NHL contracts are paid in American dollars (which hurts Canadian teams, of course, when the dollar is 80 cents or so). Money a non issue except the Toronto endorsements.
b) The glare of the media, like Montreal, is much greater in Toronto because hockey matters there. The Leafs have a hockey show on TSN every day at lunch 12 months a year. It is true you require the right character to fit that. Stamkos has been under a spotlight since he was a kid and then in Sarnia though. He's from Toronto and would, like Kadri, get it.
c) If you are really considering that Blashill is the equal of the Hall of Fame coach Mike Babcock because of one season...same Babcock that coached your last cup...then /smh
d) Wings do have some nice young talent but it's either a wash or leaning Toronto (I mean, come on, Matthews/Marner).
FWIW, I think Stamkos re-signs in Tampa after kicking the tires everywhere.
|18 hours 56 min ago||"you traded your best goalie"||
You speak of the Leafs evidently Vezina quality netminders of last year...(throws up hands)
I like Reimer as a person and his loyalty to the organization/support of the fans is laudable. He more than most deserved the cup with San Jose. Post injury just not the same netminder as a few years ago. Unfortunate. Bernier just never translated from LA to the Leafs. Similarly unfortunate.
Andersson is a significant upgrade.
|19 hours 14 min ago||Here's the thing.||
Wings have had so much success and yet, there I was last year, sitting up front for an original 6 opponent. Bought my tickets day of game and without issue.
Great teams but the support is front runner. #truth
Leafs been bad since '93 but the support remains. I wonder how you'll frame it when the Leafs are winning?
|21 hours 34 min ago||Cool.||
I'm calling the Leafs to make the playoffs next year. Remind me if I'm wrong (but I won't be).
People dismissing Toronto's "prospects" forget that Matthews is a potential generational player (its why you go concensus #1), Marner is a phenom and the rest of their prospects have been marinating a couple years with the Marlies (Hunter doesn't like to bring up kids and run them early - although I expect Matthews up day 1).
|21 hours 39 min ago||@UMx||
The Wings aren't even close to the kind of iconic deal that the Leafs have going on. To put it in perspective, when you travel to Tampla and the Leafs are playing there are at least as many Leaf fans as Tampa fans, same in Arizona, Vancouver, Calgary etc. Hell, even Ottawa it's 1/3 Leaf fans. Their presence is exponentially bigger than the Wings (championships or not, sorry) and the tv deals that Bettman negotiated in Canada (gigantic over multiple networks) vs. the US (tiny and hardly relevant) illustrate that. Toronto has more than 20 000 people waiting just to get fleeced on season tickets (and believe me Toronto pricing is silly). Regardless of the quality of the team they sell out nightly. Compare that to the Wings where I got game day tickets (and good ones) easily three times last year or where they run ticket packs and deals.
Detroit has a good thing going in the US context but Canada and the GTA are entirely off the charts in terms of fan interest/intensity. It's not even and never will be close.
|1 day 6 hours ago||Do you watch hockey?||
That team is not several years away from playoff contention. That's delusional.
Two years ago Mike Babcock is a great coach not going anywhere and now he's years away from playoff contention? Now players don't want to play for him? Wings colored glasses.
Leafs just picked up a solid goaltender, Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Kapanen are all tier one prospects (three of them will be in the league next year). Every opportunity to make the playoffs next year.
Book it. (Remind me next year if this does not come to fruition...except it will).
|1 day 6 hours ago||I could write an opinion on the "why"||
But basically Harold Ballard followed by a bunch of lackey owners (Steve Stavros I'm looking at you) then corporate ownership and finally they more or less seem to have lucked into Shanahan (who I'm not really cool with), Lamoriello (who is proven) and Hunter/Kyle Dubas (solid).
|1 day 6 hours ago||Your logic is classic||
Please adjust your Wings colored glasses.
|1 day 7 hours ago||Anything is possible but Detroit an unlikely destination.||
Bottom line he's looking at millions in endorsements in Toronto. Detroit cannot come anywhere close to that secondary income.
A second point that would not make sense to Wings fans. If a player or coach were to come to the Leafs and win a cup they'd name public schools after them. It's that relevant in Canada.
Stamkos, aside from the money and endorsements, surely knows this.
(As an aside, I see him going FA after kicking the tires then re-signing in Tampa if he doesn't go to Toronto)
|1 day 7 hours ago||Key player in that front office||
If you follow Junior hockey at all in Canada you know his capacity in assessing talent among the juniors and bringing them to London. At a talent evaluation level, Hunter is legit (a quick look at London Knights draft picks since he's owned that team is pretty compelling). This should translate to the next level.
Lamoriello is the real deal and has the rings to prove it. Shanahan, to me, is actually more of the wild card in that whole mix. Where Hunter is proven in Juniors and Lamoriello is proven in the league Shanahan was just a very solid player (not much of a character guy according to Craig Janney...)
|1 day 8 hours ago||Nice.||
Do you really think it's static with Shanahan/Lamoriello/Hunter running the deal going forward?
It's not unlike the scenario when Michigan got Hackett (and made Brandon leave, for which, as a season ticket holder I am eternally grateful). Competence replaced incompetence.
You do win for effective smart remark. So well played on that.
|1 day 8 hours ago||So salty. But he's still not going to Detroit.||
My name is clarkiefromcanada
I am sorry I don't have your Detroit myopia when it comes to Stamkos or all things hockey. I just don't see it happening. Family is from Toronto, Leafs can figure it cap wise, he's a fit with Matthews coming in and the endorsement money in Toronto would far exceed anything he could make in any other market. Connect the dots.
It's not difficult to see him in Toronto if (and this is a big if even he goes FA) he just doesn't just ultimately renew for a boatload of money in Tampa.
Remember when your former coach wasn't ever going to Toronto either? I read a year of posts about that. Of course, your team is way better with the new guy, right?
This Shanahan/Lamoriello/Hunter regime is not the old Leafs and I would not discount them.
|1 day 9 hours ago||@SBo||
I just stopped laughing about the Stamkos concept to Detroit.
That's not happening.
|2 days 21 hours ago||A reasonable narrative||
People tend to forget that Dantonio also lucked into the RichRod/Hoke eras at Michigan. I'll be interested to see how things look after a decade of Harbaugh re: in-state recruiting, B1G etc.
|3 days 7 hours ago||Well...||
His Michigan teams have scored as many points in College Football Playoff games as Dantonio's so it's kind of a wash.
|6 days 6 hours ago||Agreed.||
In the same way that Philly is a pro sports town Cleveland is a pro sports town. Nobody I know in Cleveland likes anything about Columbus sports (though they generally support tOSU because it's the only game in town).
|6 days 7 hours ago||Three words||
Hand Check Era
|6 days 8 hours ago||I will say this...||
Amazingly (shockingly) I think Kerr was outcoached by T. Lue in the last few minutes. I don't know what alternative universe allowed this to happen. Kerr twice didn't call timeouts to set plays when he had the chance in the last minute and a half. Cost him.
Don't know what's going on with Stephen Curry but he was legit bricking shots tonight. It seemed as if the pressure may have been too great (wife tweeting, two losses heading home etc). Klay Thompson scored but seemed invisible.
Golden State minus Bogut is a different team. A way more beatable team. Cleveland controlled the paint in the last three games and this is what matters in playoff basketball, it seems. Lue's use of post concussion Love made sense on the road in this application (despite my initial freak out).
LeBron James is plainly the best player in the NBA at present. It's not particularly close, either. Stephen Curry folded in the most pressure filled moments (3 point 4th quarter).
Golden State was a great regular season team and a front runner. Bogut, it seems, meant a lot more than anyone in SF thought. Green, despite his bravado, was not the difference. Kyrie Irving is the real deal.
Those are my thoughts.
|6 days 8 hours ago||Come on kid.||
We are all maize and blue fans here. Stop by the tailgate and I'd offer you a beer.
That said, don't write content that is whiny and I'll stop commenting factually upon it.