Mason NEEDS this, Pistons, after all you've put him through
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|17 hours 31 min ago||Also, that may be a by the||
Also, that may be a by the rule penalty, but no way that's a playoffs penalty.
|17 hours 32 min ago||"Pittsburgh fans don't have||
"Pittsburgh fans don't have the highest hockey IQs in the world."
|17 hours 34 min ago||Who's better?||
|1 week 2 days ago||"Only in Ohio. You would||
"Only in Ohio. You would think they would have more important issues to deal with."
|1 week 3 days ago||They should have made all||
They should have made all three free throws.
|2 weeks 13 hours ago||So we are supporting hazing||
So we are supporting hazing around here now?
|2 weeks 14 hours ago||Don't you think it's more||
Don't you think it's more likely that they don't give a damn if he's a good guy or not if they believe he can get them to their payday at the next level? Let's not pretend that these players are idiots, but rather consider that they may be just as self-interested.
|2 weeks 14 hours ago||An historic...||
|2 weeks 3 days ago||I'm willing to bet it isn't||
I'm willing to bet it isn't about being "butt hurt" for a lot of people, but rather that this is final four generally consists of teams that are hard for anyone not a fan of one the teams to like.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Also sounds like a good||
Also sounds like a good argument for paying employees the same amount as the boss...
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Perhaps a better example you||
Perhaps a better example you could have gone with is whether an NCAA athlete can have a future employer pay for their education and whether that employer can lump sum compensate (ie a signing bonus) the student prior to graduation. We know that this is well settled with professional sports teams, but it's really a different situation if it is an employer trying to hire and compensate them (and for the student to benefit financially) based upon their academic performance (rather than their athletic performance). If the answer is no then a very good argument can be made that the NCAA is fundamentally interfering with the student's ability to gain employment after graduation and is placing the student at a post-graduation employment disadvantage (because they wouldn't be able to take the same jobs, on the same terms, as their classmate peers).
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Exactly . There is even a||
Exactly . There is even a FERPA exception for employee-students...
|3 weeks 43 min ago||"And not just federal IRS||
"And not just federal IRS taxes, there are also payroll taxes which must be considered."
|3 weeks 45 min ago||"In any case, it was the NLRB||
"In any case, it was the NLRB which bought into the argument that the scholarship, room, and board, are compensation for employment, not merely a benefit of employment, thus the basis for ruling that players may form a collective bargaining unit."
|3 weeks 8 hours ago||Also, interesting to note, if||
Also, interesting to note, if they are employees then the universities will have to provide them with ACA-compliant health insurance.
|3 weeks 11 hours ago||Absolutely correct, although||
Absolutely correct, although to take it even further, it gets even more interesting when you consider those who are not on scholarship. That's where this whole thing falls down (and will fail), ultimately.
|3 weeks 11 hours ago||So, even more perfectly to||
So, even more perfectly to his point: just wait until they are required to pay dues to a union they don't want to join. What's that, the "freedom of association" fee/tax?
|3 weeks 16 hours ago||Agree on all accounts. The||
Agree on all accounts. The one thing I would add is that it will be really interesting to see how this plays out on a school-by-school basis, and how it factors into recruiting.
|3 weeks 19 hours ago||Taxes will be a huge unintended consequence||
Another major factor to consider, with respect to expense, is that if they are considered employees their "benefit" will have to be taxed as income. That's potentially a big deal when the benefit that will be treated as income is allocated at out of state rates. Add in room and board, plus anything else that can be added to the equation, and that's a hefty tax bill for student athletes who have no (or very little) monetary income with which to pay that tax bill. It's easily north of $10,000 each year for a Michigan athlete.
|3 weeks 19 hours ago||All of this is putting the||
All of this is putting the cart WAY before the horse. Just because they were determined to have the ability to unionize doesn't mean they actually will. Since they are going to be considered employees of each school (not the NCAA), they will have to unionize on a school-by-school basis. I just don't see that happening at most schools. The other thing to consider is that it will be school-by-school, not sport by sport. So factor in how other sports are likely to view this (eg non-revenue sports may not want this representation inserted because, presumably the main monetary benefits will accrue to football players and other revenue sport players, which will come at the expense of the budgets/benefits for non-revenue sport teams and athletes).
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||I felt compelled to comment.||
I felt compelled to comment.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||"Sorry about your early||
"Sorry about your early education bro."
|5 weeks 14 hours ago||"and his performance was||
"and his performance was routinely good."
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Pretty readily available.||
Pretty readily available. NALP publishes that information.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||From a perception standpoint,||
From a perception standpoint, I agree about the 12 schools in Florida, but the fact is, law is a demand profession in Florida. That's with 12 ABA accredited schools and almost 4,000 new Bar admittees each year. That said, I would expect several of those 12 schools to not exist, or exist in a significantly different format, in a few years. Only 5 of those 12 schools made the US News top 100 (FSU, UF, Miami, Stetson, and FIU).
|5 weeks 1 day ago||With how competitive the||
With how competitive the recruitment environment is, it absolutely makes a difference on the employer side, which effectively reduces opportunities for subsequent classes. If an employer experiences a school as not interested in placing it's graduates in their type of employment, there are more than enough other schools who are glad to have them on campus.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||"We'll see when the new||
"We'll see when the new employment figures come out in April if that worked."
|5 weeks 1 day ago||"they collectively graduate||
"they collectively graduate 50k students per year when there are only around 25k legal job openings each year"
|5 weeks 1 day ago||"and Michigan MAY be at a||
"and Michigan MAY be at a disadvantage in how it keeps track of the statistic due to the scrutiny it receives as a public university."
|5 weeks 1 day ago||From the hiring side of this,||
From the hiring side of this, I can definitely say you are right. That said, the person you were responding to was right on the money about the impact of the types of jobs. That's been a big issue for some other schools below Michigan who have slipped in ranking in recent years.