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|5 days 19 hours ago||Just lobbing unsourced||
Just lobbing unsourced grenades into the discussion. Very helpful
|6 days 10 hours ago||Don't disagree with anything||
Don't disagree with anything you've said. Specifically, I agree with your statement, " the opportunity to be part of a university community, to be exposed to the resources, ideas, and achievements of other students has to have real value, especially to kids who might otherwise never get the chance."
My only clarifying point would be that there is no real way to know whether an individual exposed to all of that but duoes not thrive academically is / would be better off than a student not exposed to that, but who really learns a trade and pursues it (Electrician, Software Designer, whatever else). It's a bit of a messy hypothetical, but I agree that I'm excited about the prosepct of this league opening additional opportunities.
|6 days 17 hours ago||Agreed, at first glance this||
Agreed, at first glance this seems to be like a no-brainer for coaches to be on board. In theory this could benefit a borderline player who may otherwise lose his spot if he waits until signing day -- but to me that benefit is marginal. If you're good enough to sign early with a major college program, then even if you lose your spot in one program's class (say UM, Bama, OSU, etc.) then chances are very high that you will still have a chance to obtain a scholarship from another school. If I'm a high-level recruit or recruit's parent, then there is no real incentive to sign early and I'm not doing it unless I feel like the recruiting process is that burdensome.
|6 days 17 hours ago||This an absurd statement that||
This an absurd statement that I really wish would go away. Young people are bad with money and irresponsible, therefore, we should not pay young people. QED
It's often interesting that this argument seems to come up only when we are talking about paying basketball / football players. Nobody mentions that some baseball / hockey players are worth significant sums of money before stepping foot on college campuses. But I guess that's not a problem -- probably all the additional grit, hustle and intelligence that comes from playing those sports.
|6 days 18 hours ago||Well that's just like your||
Well that's just like your opinion man...
And if others feel that way, then they are more than able to pursue that education under the current model.
If we're going to make broad statements about what people on this board value / believe, I think that most people on this board fail to realize that for some "student-athletes" there really is little value in pursuing a college degree. Some of these kids are so far behind because of poor education leading up to college, that they would be better off pursuing a trade or developing a specific skill that can lead to as much or more success than the degree they are working towards. Just to be clear, I do think every individual should be able to make that decision for himself (just him - since we are talking about football) -- but let us not pretend that since the current system only offers one option that others do not exist or aren't better for some individuals.
|6 days 18 hours ago||Your opinion is wrong In||
Your opinion is wrong
In state cost of attendance - including room and board, books, etc. @ UM (one of the more expensive public schools) is estimated at just under $29k.
|6 days 18 hours ago||I'm "bitterly disappointed"||
I'm "bitterly disappointed" that the 8 win season thread was taken down -- wanted to see the first OP to hit -1000
|6 days 18 hours ago||You seem like a real joy to||
You seem like a real joy to be around
|6 days 18 hours ago||Totally agree -- I love||
Totally agree -- I love college football and selfishly I wouldn't mind it staying the way it is, but I can't in good conscience say that the system doesn't need major changes.
|6 days 18 hours ago||Lol, I did the exact same||
Lol, I did the exact same thing.
Boo this man
|6 days 18 hours ago||I hear what you're saying and||
I hear what you're saying and rather like the point. Maybe they could do a voucher system or something like that. Either you get $50k and a free community college education or you get $55 - 60k and you are responsible for any academic pursuits.
|6 days 19 hours ago||In the short-term yes I||
In the short-term yes I agree. However, if the league does find any significant success it is easier to see it expanding in a number of ways (more teams, bigger venues, more business focused, larger payments for players, etc.).
So I agree that as of now schools like Michigan have nothing to worry about (and in some ways it may even be beneficial), but if this model finds success (A BIG IF) it would essentially shut down college football as it currently exists.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||And Sean Payton I believe||
And Sean Payton I believe
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Terrible analogy is terrible||
Terrible analogy is terrible analogy
|3 weeks 6 days ago||You created an account for||
You created an account for this?
|3 weeks 6 days ago||That’s real money, no matter||
That’s real money, no matter how much you save on pants
I'll admit, I LOLed
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Yes, but...||
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Crooting...||
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Upset that I only have 1 neg||
Upset that I only have 1 neg to give
|5 weeks 5 days ago||And what about the actual||
And what about the actual "free agency" that takes place among coaches?? You know... those adults that actually make millions and millions off of the free labor from college athletes.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||That is so short-sighted. So||
That is so short-sighted. So just because NCAA has a monopoloy on those who wish to pursue a professional / semi-professional career in almost every sport means that all athletes should shut up and take what the NCAA is "gracious" enough to give out?
|5 weeks 5 days ago||That's just like your||
That's just like your opinion, man....
And it's a very bad one :)
|5 weeks 5 days ago||"He made his choice to play||
"He made his choice to play football in the NCAA" -- what a loaded statement. We al lknow the NCAA has a defacto monopoly on college football and by proxy entering the NFL.
I sincerely do not remember your stance on compensating players, but I'm guessing you are against it as this is pretty much the "don't like it then don't play" argument that is so commonly used against paying players.
|6 weeks 19 hours ago||Well then, your Sparty fans||
Well then, your Sparty friends are stupid....
(See what I did there?)
Seriously -- want a first round talent to leave because he takes a few plays off? I'd rather have the output of 80% amazing plays vs. 100% average plays. Reminds me of Funchess and some Michigan fans being happy to see him leave --- I was not one of said fans
|6 weeks 19 hours ago||Never count out a network||
Never count out a network with The Wayans Bros. on syndication
|6 weeks 19 hours ago||Obligatory? Obligatory...||
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Favorite line in the||
Favorite line in the article:
In those cases, engineers used transmitters that produce high-frequency waves, which are easily absorbed by the human body—not exactly the best way to get a signal from underneath six linebackers.
|7 weeks 10 hours ago||This Should End Well||
|7 weeks 18 hours ago||If you "may never sleep||
If you "may never sleep peacefully again" -- why don't you use that exra time and do the damn referee UFR yourself?
|7 weeks 1 day ago||I don't know... Why didn't||
I don't know... Why didn't you post one instead of this??