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Subpar market?  I’ll bite,…

Subpar market?  I’ll bite, what coaches or coach would have made this a great or even good market ?

And so was the Team!

And so was the Team!

Definitely get a guided tour…

Definitely get a guided tour.  Well worth the cost.  Had guided tours at Gettysburg & Shiloh.  Greatly enhanced the experience.

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Hotter take:  JH learned a ton about himself by being the head coach and having to make decisions instead of being an assistant like he was in the NBA.  He’ll use that experience going forward in his basketball and beyond endeavors.

A little hyperbole, don’t…

A little hyperbole, don’t you think?

A chance to be taught by a man who know how to actually work with and teach players solid, fundamental basketball might well attract a few recruits.  Did 5 years ago.  Bring in a GM to handle the portal & NIL stuff no matter what coach you hire….

You think a good coach …

You think a good coach (plenty of them) is going to change me here with the current NIL and Admissions restrictions?  Not likely at all, he’ll go get the same $’s at a place that doesn’t have these two issues.  Why take a job where you are hamstrung the day you are hired?

Been an issue all year long……

Been an issue all year long…..

Honest response:  No one…

Honest response:  No one here in this thread will be making any decisions about whether Juwan stays or is fired.  So, the actual real question is what does Warde Manuel think, and what action (or inaction) will he pursue?

We only know that Warde has said he will be evaluating the b-ball program after the year is over.  Otherwise, 🤷‍♂️

I bet he has better players…

I bet he has better players going forward….might make a difference?🤔

Based on all the head coach…

Based on all the head coach and assistant coach carousel we’ve seen this offseason, it isn’t about just money so much as the current out of control Wild West college football landscape demanding 24/7 365 days a year attention with no down time.  That’s been a consistent theme.

Who is this we you speak of?…

Who is this we you speak of????😆😉

Huge IF.  If my aunt had…

Huge IF.  If my aunt had testicles, then she’d be my uncle.😂

Is he going to resign for…

Is he going to resign for health reasons???😉

Wild Card round exits? …

Wild Card round exits?  Remind me again what Jim’s “round exits” were at San Francisco?  You know, the NFL team that he coached where we have actual data to examine instead of opinions.  

Being down 17 I/o 14 doesn’t…

Being down 17 I/o 14 doesn’t change the 49’ers strategy one iota.  They needed breaks to get back in it.  The long pass that bounces off of the safety and the fumble did that.  Whether tied or down by 3, those plays are what really made the difference.  

But a TD on that drive…

But a TD on that drive REALLY puts the 49’ers in a world of manure situation.  But, it’s moot since no one knows how the game would have played out if they kicked a FG there.  A ball bounces off a safety’s face mask for a huge gain, your sure handed RB fumbles, your usually steady receivers aren’t….🤷‍♂️

You assume that tying the…

You assume that tying the game at 27 would have led to a Lions’ victory.  Given the way our D played, that assumes facts not in evidence.  

Hmm, did he call the play…

Hmm, did he call the play where the 49’ers got the luckiest of bounces off a Safety’s helmet to complete a long pass?  🤔. 
He knew the D he had in the secondary and his pass defense, that’s why he took the chances he did.  

To the players whom he will…

To the players whom he will always be available to…..

And you have to also note…

And you have to also note the longer term consequences of Warde’s actions.  The better choice was to retain Harbaugh at his current contract and give him 1 more year due to COVID and his record of rebuilding teams at every one of his head coaching stops both College & Pro.

Exactly, why else would JH…

Exactly, why else would JH be negotiating for a contract clause addressing items 2-3?  He wanted to fight, the university backed down.  He wanted to know they were not going to back down going forward, and were prepared and had acknowledged they would fight.  

 

I think the real test for…

 

I think the real test for Michigan regarding Harbaugh was caving to Hamburger Gate and suspending him the first 3 games for a few level 2 violations because the NCAA accused him of lying/misleading their investigators when he said he didn’t remember the COVID year violations as a level 1 offense.  He wanted to fight, but the University refused to do so.  The second test was the Connor Stallions “spy gate” horse manure where the B1G suspended him for 3 games.  Michigan was initially going to fight it, but then backed down.

Given this history, he, in essence, wanted a contract clause that guaranteed they would fight instead of rolling over as they did in both of the above incidents.  

I think That’s one of the big reasons he left.

Whine, whine, whine.  2017? …

Whine, whine, whine.  2017?  Get a clue!  

And when they closed the…

And when they closed the coffin,

it was someone else instead!😉

22 men of Michigan put on the gloves of maize,

and as Fettig leads The Victors,

they laid Ryan Day away!

Anyone here who thinks they…

Anyone here who thinks they know what Jim Harbaugh will do has never known the man on a close personal level.  He marches to his own beat heard from a distant single drummer.

The guy is using his leverage between NFL & Michigan to get what he considers the perfect job in both circumstances.   Then, he’ll look at each and decide.    Instead of whining about it, how about we all admit that given that opportunity we’d do the same thing?  

What was the prediction for…

What was the prediction for the 2021 team?  The 2022 team?  The 2023 team?  Did you review next year’s schedule?  The B1G has a few more actual good teams this upcoming year, and we play Texas in our non-conference schedule.  You can accept the over/under wins projected if you wish.  I think I’ll wait until they’ve played a few games.

I see, Harbaugh, unlike any…

I see, Harbaugh, unlike any other coach or person in this world, is required to make all of the Michigan fans and alumni and athletic department feel less stress.  It’s been 2 weeks.  Maybe they need to learn how to be patient when the other side hold all the cards?🤔

Do you think that Warde gets…

Do you think that Warde gets to decide by himself all the contract offers and terms that Michigan makes to JH?  🤔

“More talented team than…

“More talented team than Michigan.”

I keep reading this statement in various articles and columns when discussing OSU.  Who says they have a more talented roster?  How do you rate how talented a roster is?  Using recruiting rankings?  Using PFF grades?  Do we include coaching and strength training talent? 

I say the most talented “team” is the team that wins.  That is the “true” and unbiased way to determine which team has the most “talent”.

Go Blue!

Concur.  JH remains very…

Concur.  JH remains very disappointed in the way Michigan handled both these situations, and wants to know that they will fight instead of “rolling over”.

Asking for an arbitrator to review this is just being smart, it is a way to be sure Michigan will fight.

You prefer the Lions hire…

You prefer the Lions hire Minter????🙄

I don’t see JH working for…

I don’t see JH working for Jerry, do you?😆

America loves to see them…

America loves to see them get their rear ends kicked.  Word get out they are losing big time, and viewership goes up!👍😆

Do the Cowboys draft JJ…

Start the JJ rumors to Dallas in the draft…🙄

Enjoy and cherish the…

Enjoy and cherish the moments when your dreams come true!  Then, have more dreams!👍

I actually think JJ will set…

I actually think JJ will set down with JH and with his family and will decide a few weeks after the championship game.  Probably well before 15th deadline.

Ooopppps, looks like he did…

Ooopppps, looks like he did report!🤔

Assumes the game would have…

Assumes the game would have been played the same way it was if he takes the 3.  Wrong assumption.  🤔

Wrong…..you have no idea how…

Wrong…..you have no idea how the game would have played out if he takes the 3.  Your statement requires the assumption that all else remains the same.  Not how football works.

Coach Howard is not getting…

Coach Howard is not getting fired this year.  Those calling for his head are wasting their time until at least the end of next season.  The ready made reason (whether you want to accept it or not or call it unacceptable or whatever) is his missing significant time with this team due to his heart surgery.  Based on our athletic department’s history on how we handle coaches, he’s going to get at least one more year at a minimum.🤷‍♂️

 

Lane Kiffin and those who…

Lane Kiffin and those who live in Oxford, MS smile at your statements.  Somehow, they do very well in the transfer portal every year, even without the resources of Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, LSU et al.  😊

 

Whole Milk & Steak for his…

Whole Milk & Steak for his Festivus Dinner!😉

That’s one approach.  The…

That’s one approach.  The other might be to look around, note that there is absolutely NO ONE we could reasonably hire that would even come close to being as experienced and successful as Mr. Harbaugh, or a better fit for the unique circumstances at Michigan.  Given this, how about getting this contract negotiation finished with some reasonableness as was suggested by Mr. Ross on the podcast?

I know what our exact…

I know what our exact response should be:

 

BET

How about Alabama worrying…

How about Alabama worrying about JJ not being injured and him running the ball?  You know, injured like he was against PSU, Maryland, Ohio State, and Iowa?  🤔

At $8-$10 million a year,…

At $8-$10 million a year, and a unlimited staff budget, it doesn’t look so bad to me.

And Mike Hart, and Scott…

And Mike Hart, and Scott Minter, and a very large host of others.  Ya think JH goes thru the candidate social media vetting?🙄

If you think that Harbaugh…

If you think that Harbaugh marches to the beat of the drum heard by the many, I think you don’t know the man or his history at all.🤔

Easily, it’s called money,…

Easily, it’s called money, staying near home, a guaranteed job for mom/dad, too cold in Michigan, et al.  Oh, and remember JH & staff started getting their “type” of players to fit the current culture.  Lots of guys don’t fit that profile.

“Holding our purse strings…

“Holding our purse strings too tight”.  You referring to NIL money?  Or facilities?  Or finding & paying great coaches?  Or not hiring a Private Investigator?  Or?????   Just curious what you specifically think we are holding our purse strings too tight on.