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|6 hours 32 min ago||Yeah. There are pockets of||
Yeah. There are pockets of good discussion, but I rarely come here for coherent discussions of other sports teams precisely because it can get as mouth-breathery as anyone. And I'll totally admit to sometimes being in that camp, but I try to lay low if I really don't know anything (such as USMNT and to an extent hockey).
|8 hours 11 min ago||Fine, then you can stand on your tiny mole hill of||
Fine, then you can stand on your tiny mole hill of an argument as victorious. Personally, I like a guy who turns Andrew Miller and a mediocre outfielder into a great hitter, puts together multiple WS runs with decent enough bullpens, and turns expiring contracts and FAs into good prospects. But yeah, good on KC building a decent bullpen.
|8 hours 14 min ago||You are ignoring the greater point to hold true to||
You are ignoring the greater point to hold true to some very myopic truism. Yes, KC didn't waste FA money to build a bullpen; they wasted a #1 draft pick in a great draft to get a 31-year-old reliever. That's not an efficient way to build a team.
|8 hours 16 min ago||Robert Fick was the lone all star rep for the team||
Robert Fick was the lone all star rep for the team once. I never want to go to an era like that.
|8 hours 18 min ago||I will say, this place is really good for football||
I will say, this place is really good for football content, but other sports can get real mlive in here.
|8 hours 23 min ago||Is that you||
Is that you Al?
|9 hours 53 min ago||He's arguing that just||
He's arguing that just because KC was able to turn a terrible pick into a decent bullpen pitcher shouldn't be proof of great planning by the KC administration. He could have drafted Evan Longoria, Clayton Kershaw, Tim Lincecum, Max Scherzer, hell Ian Kennedy and gotten a better return.
KC is doing a better job drafting now, but it remains a team that finally started to play well after decades of being terrible. Let's see if they can continue to be competitive in the coming years before we crown them.
|10 hours 1 min ago||KC spent nearly 2 decades||
KC spent nearly 2 decades being anywhere from average to terrible. Congrats - they had enough bad draft picks that they turned into bullpen guys.
I hate people pulling out KC as some model of how a team should be run. They finally field a competent team and now all of a sudden they are a model franchise? Please. St. Louis has been consistently good AND built for the future. Detroit isn't St. Louis, and that should be the goal. Sucking long enough that math ultimately gives you enough studs to win isn't a plan.
|10 hours 3 min ago||Well, he pulled Detroit out||
Well, he pulled Detroit out of a pretty dark period as well. Before DD got there, they hadn't gone to the playoffs since 1988; since he's been there, they've been to the playoffs 5 times including to WS. This team had a crap farm system when he got here, and while he's traded away some prospects show me the multitude of those guys who turned into legitimate stars. I mean, he turned Miller and Maybin into a two-time MVP and one of the best hitters of his generation. He got Max Scherzer for cheap and got a Cy Young out of him. He nabbed Doug Fister from Seattle and got a good 2nd/3rd starter. And this trade deadline he got rid of some rentals and helped provide some depth to the farm system. Sure, Detroit isn't set up to dominate for the next decade, but I wouldn't say they are looking at the darkest of times.
The bullpen stuff drives me crazy. A lot of it is luck; a guy you draft to be a decent starter falters and you throw him in the pen and all of a sudden he's lights-out. For example, Eric Gagne was a sub-.500 pitcher before he wound up in the pen and dominated. Detroit went after good closers and setup men, and for decent stretches they were fine. I wouldn't say SF is particularly well-designed as a team, yet they've won a couple titles. Lots of it is luck.
|10 hours 15 min ago||And he got them to 2 WS. The||
And he got them to 2 WS. The fact Detroit then went 1-8 in those games isn't on DD.
This seems like a terrible move by an old man who wants to "win now" with little interest in the future. I don't love every move Dombrowski made, but to say he mortgaged the future ignores the fact this team was turrible when he arrived and he turned them into a perrenial playoff-caliber team. That's damn impressive.
|13 hours 1 min ago||I will say, I love these||
I will say, I love these little metldowns with His Dudeness because you have so many points and have been here long enough that you might as well spend them.
|13 hours 5 min ago||And he nearly beat OSU with a||
And he nearly beat OSU with a broken foot. He wasn't perfect, but for every bad thing he did I can come up with examples of where he was the only competent player on the field.
|13 hours 6 min ago||He's #1 in our hearts.||
He's #1 in our hearts.
|14 hours 39 sec ago||Honestly? I only have a||
Honestly? I only have a daugher, but if I had a son I'd probably discourage him from playing football. Yeah I'm a hypocrite, but I'm also realistic. Barring a miracle of genetics, I don't see my son being all that good at football, or if he is he'll be limited such that his career would likely end in HS. And maybe he'd escape with no major injuries and have some great stories and experiences. But the more I've read about concussions and football the more it is clear that those injuries can start pretty early on, with kids in HS showing many of the same signs as NFL pros. And that doesn't even get into the other physical injuries that can occur - my Dad still has bad knees after getting chop-blocked repeatedly for 2 years as a DT in HS.
Now, if my son just loves the sport I won't stand in the way. But my ultimate goal is for my child to get exercise and enjoy being active, and there are myriad of sports that will will teach him/her teamwork, comraderie, and a focus on winning. Football is great, but there are other sports for him/her to play that will pose less serious risks. And, similarly, I wouldn't encourage my daughter to be a competitive cheerleader, as those kids suffer horrific injuries WAY to regularly.
|1 day 14 hours ago||As a slight argument in the||
As a slight argument in the guy's favor, if your wife has her heart set on place X on date Y, no amount of fandom is probably going to beat that.
|1 day 14 hours ago||My assumption is that the||
My assumption is that the quality of the OOC will go up a bit without Brandon in charge, but does anyone know if they plan on scheduling so many sub-150 teams in the future?
|2 days 3 hours ago||Congrats and welcome to the||
Congrats and welcome to the fold.
|2 days 3 hours ago||And don't look remotely||
And don't look remotely poised to compete for a title this year. Bets aren't about what happened two years ago. Alabama could go 7-5 one year and everyone can look at the roster and see a team that can win it all. Nobody would logically say that about UM or ND right now. That's the point.
|2 days 3 hours ago||I'd hope to always be part of||
I'd hope to always be part of a fan base that is excited about players signing with their team and about having a new head coach who is one of the best on the game. If being a fan of things your team does is viewed as a negative by you, I'm not sure what to tell you.
|2 days 3 hours ago||It's gambling. I'm guessing||
It's gambling. I'm guessing that the vast majority of people placing bets are not fans of UM in the classic sense. They just see good odds for a big payoff, know Harbaugh is there, and take a chance. Hell, the article states a bunch of money was put on Georgia Southern against WVU because the spread. It's not like GSU has a bunch of fans out there. Saying these are fans is silly.
|2 days 11 hours ago||If I remember correctly, it||
If I remember correctly, it was a couple guys who complained, most famously Boren. RR has won everywhere else he's been; if the players thought it was tough and they didn't like it, I tend to believe that's on them and not the coach..
|2 days 11 hours ago||Read what was written about||
Read what was written about Carr when RR took over (country club was used) or when Hoke took over for RR (spread made players less physical). It's as old as time - writers need to fill space, so they just recycle cliches and find anonymous quotes to back it up.
|2 days 13 hours ago||I treat it as a riddle in||
I treat it as a riddle in which I must divine what caused a bunch of people to defend their activity level. My guess is that it had something to do with someone calling people who play video games fat, which is hilarious given the fact he (and it is 100% certain it is a him) is commenting on a sports blog on a weekend.
|2 days 13 hours ago||And I'm guessing Marcus Ray||
And I'm guessing Marcus Ray is also super-high on Peppers as a cornerback, HSP, kick returner, governor, car repairman, and everything else. Ray's a former DB and Peppers looks to be a great player with insane athleticism. I think this is more Ray talking up a player than a knock against the current crop.
I don't think anyone has a great sense of the running back situation right now, but we've seen literally hundreds of middling backs put up good numbers behind solid offensive lines. The hope is UM will have one of those in 2015, and so I expect Michigan to be able to get yards on the ground regardless of who is holding onto the football.
|2 days 13 hours ago||That's a mighty fine hole||
That's a mighty fine hole you've dug yourself into.
|2 days 13 hours ago||I will have to go back to the||
I will have to go back to the old Google archive to find the article in which Brady Hoke said he wants to promote a culture of laziness and irresponsibility.
Every coach in history save Spurrier seems to care all about "toughness" and "putting the hours in" and all of those canned expressions. Personally, I think Harbaugh will be a good coach at UM because he's a good coach in general; Brady Hoke and RR before him cared just as much about winning and playing hard, they just didn't get the results. And if for some crazy reason Harbaugh doesn't work out at UM and the next guy comes in, I'll bet we'll hear stories about how nice it is to not have a maniac screaming at you all the time and being treated with respect. It's just a natural result of change.
|3 days 4 hours ago||I don't blame him for being a||
I don't blame him for being a bit miffed because, well, this is the best run MSU has really had in most of our lifetimes and it constantly second-fiddle to what goes on at UM and OSU. And to be realistic, whatever window MSU had to really establish themselves as a nationally-elite program probably closed when OSU hired Meyer and UM signed Harbaugh. A healthy UM and OSU are typically going to be better than MSU, and we've already seen that MSU's best efforts really can't compete with OSU in the conference. Maybe MSU keeps it going for a year or two more at a high level, but with UM seemingly turning the corner along with PSU recruiting well, you have to figure their time as the #2 team in the conference is over.
|3 days 19 hours ago||I'm assuming it's so that they can market his||
I'm assuming it's so that they can market his departure in a couple of years due to "health concerns".
|3 days 19 hours ago||One of the greats. With him and Dusty both gone,||
One of the greats. With him and Dusty both gone, that stable of professional wrestling's best talkers ever just keeps shrinking.
|5 days 12 hours ago||This is a good trade. Norris||
This is a good trade. Norris is a good prospect, and honestly I didn't think they'd get that much for a rental. Hopefully they can move Cespedes for another young arm and be set up to compete for a couple more years.
I kinda wonder if Verlander had pitched well these past couple of weeks they would have moved him as well. Probably not a huge return, but maybe one or two high-level prospects or another guy who might be overpaid.