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|1 week 6 days ago||Dead period starts on NSD||
Dead period starts on NSD though. Hard to form the relationships with the coaches.
|1 week 6 days ago||He plays football in class 7a||
He plays football in class 7a in the Miami/Fort Lauderdale suburbs. In the vacinity of Pembroke Pines, Hollywood, and Plantation.
You all act like he was playing in South Dakota.
The staffs at Temple, Syracuse, and Illinois all managed to find Weaver and offer him before Michigan did. Then Weaver showed a lot of improvement on his tape, and more teams offered.
Michigan was not a necessary component in this.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||A bigger problem than||
A bigger problem than recruiting classes filling up is that I think the next few months are a dead period. Not a whole lot a kid can do to decide on a school.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Fair enough. That would be||
Fair enough. That would be better that what I said.
I don't think those throwing jabs have been convinced that Swenson's side is untrue yet, nor do I think most will get this message.
The choir is sure digging it though.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Or its just a movie quote.||
Or its just a movie quote.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I'm thinking that he is just||
I'm thinking that he is just quoting a movie he likes and not taking a shot at a high school kid on twitter.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I don't know if Enis really||
I don't know if Enis really believed that or not, but I don't think the coaching staff would have honored his commitment. They weren't scheduling his official either.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Its not all the words of one||
Its not all the words of one side.
I'm comparing the words of both sides with the known circumstances and past relevant evidence.
If Swenson had said nothing about it, and someone said:
"Oh well Swenson refused to camp for the coaches because he knew he had slacked off and wasn't any good, and the coaches told him he no longer had a spot back in the fall but he did nothing about it until two weeks before signing day"
I would be very incredulous of that story.
For the record, I'm incredulous that Swenson knew nothing about his scholarship being in jeopardy, because it wasn't a well kept secret.
But after so many recruits have come out and said that they didn't have much contact with teh staff and then decommitted, I find it easy to believe that the staff kinda left an overly naive and loyal kid in a difficult spot. I mean, Sam Webb and John U Bacon have kinda confirmed that the staff didn't actually say "You don't have a spot" until it was way too late.
The only question left for me is: Was the staff negligent with good intentions (made a mistake letting the kid down easy), or negligent with bad intentions (not being explicit with the kid until they knew they didn't have the spots).
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Because similar info has come||
Because similar info has come from multiple recruits with no reason to lie, and I find it hard to believe that Swenson was told all of this and decided "I'll just wait until my recruitment is completely fucked and then make a big stink."
Plus the story about Swenson says things about him that the author can't possibly know. How does the author know why Swenson didn't work out for the coaches over the summer?
I'm willing to believe that the coaching staff dropped subtle hints that he should start looking around (although it seems that they more often just don't contact the recruit), and that Swenson naively waited and hoped that everything would just work out.
I find the story that Swenson was aware that he wasn't good enough so he avoided working out for the coaches, and then was told in the fall that he didn't have actually have a spot to be less believable than Swenson's.
I also find it fairly unbecoming that not only is the kid without a spot two weeks before signing day, but that someone is leaking out stories about him that make him look like shit.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||My exact words: There is a||
My exact words:
There is a pretty well established history of Harbaugh and staff simply cutting off communication with recruits, rather than explicitly telling them what is going on.
I never said anything about pulling his offer.
Do you think they would have honored Enis' commitment if he hadn't decommitted?
|2 weeks 6 days ago||You are right. No one said||
You are right. No one said "lazy". They said "complacent with his work ethic".
And they didn't say he is lying, they are just saying that everything he has said about his communication with the coaches is untrue.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Like I said, all of those||
Like I said, all of those guys had very limited contact with the coaches and ultimately got the message that they should commit elsewhere. The difference between them and Swenson is that Swenson wouldn't budge until the coaches told him explicitly.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Why are you calling them the||
Why are you calling them the "facts"?
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Swenson said he was scheduled||
Swenson said he was scheduled for his official visit Jan.15 and that Michigan postponed it a week. When he hadn’t heard the details about this coming weekend, he called the U-M staff to find out what was happening.
“They said, ‘You’re not going to come up anymore,’” Swenson said. “That’s pretty much all that happened in that phone call. We didn’t talk that much longer.”
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Kiante Enis in November: "I||
Kiante Enis in November:
"I haven't had real solid contact with Michigan. Once a month maybe. I mean I'm still pretty solid though. I don't plan on decommitting at all really, I just haven't had much contact with them."
Now he has decommited while only having visited Indiana and an upcoming visit to Miami (NTM).
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I thought it extreme because||
I thought it extreme because it pretty much stated that Swenson was completely aware he sucked and avoided the coaching staff and then lied about it to everyone.
It would be hard to paint Swenson in a more negative light, given the known circumstances.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Per Swenson and his coach,||
Per Swenson and his coach, they had a scheduled official.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||That seems to be a stretch.||
That seems to be a stretch. Even if Swenson literally thought "Oh man, I suck now. I better not let the coaches know it", how would anyone but Swenson know that?
|3 weeks 4 min ago||I did read it again. This||
I did read it again.
This article states that the coaching staff made the decision in the fall because Swenson was lazy, told Swenson, and that Swenson handled that information by fucking himself over.
That does not jive with what Sam Webb said or what we have heard from other recruits.
That the coaching staff informed Swenson that he didn't have an offer and would have to walk on very recently seems pretty established at this point.
|3 weeks 9 min ago||"Blunt" doesn't necessarily||
"Blunt" doesn't necessarily mean actually communicating with a kid:
|3 weeks 13 min ago||You're driving at the fact||
You're driving at the fact that people outside the Michigan fanbase would be more likely to believe the kid got screwed over.
I'm driving at the fact that people inside the fanbase are gobbling up the growing mudslinging directed at Swenson.
Eye of the beholder.
|3 weeks 15 min ago||Swenson's telling matches||
Swenson's telling matches very well with what Weaver, Scott, Enis and Coulter have all said before. That the coaching staff just tends to let silence do the talking. They just go ahead and fix the glitch and let things work themselves out. This time they ran into a kid that wasn't budging.
|3 weeks 20 min ago||But we have huge pieces of||
But we have huge pieces of evidence that support Swenson's side of things over this explanation:
1) There is a pretty well established history of Harbaugh and staff simply cutting off communication with recruits, rather than explicitly telling them what is going on. Kain Coulter at Stanford. Weaver, Enis, and Scott so far at Michigan. Matt Falcon's parents didn't know anything about his son's status until they call Harbaugh a few months after his surgery. If the staff was this open about where Swenson stood and what he need to do, it wouldn't mesh with their history.
2) The timing of this doesn't work at all. They were getting red flags because he didn't come up and work out over the summer, but it takes 6 months for them to notify him? Sam Webb makes it sound like the decision was made recently and that was wrong. If this is true, the decision was made months ago, and they have talked to him several times without being truthful about it to Swenson.
|3 weeks 33 min ago||It certainly seems the||
It certainly seems the attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder, because you seem to really like the anonymous story from the Michigan side.
|3 weeks 34 min ago||Someone close to the Michigan||
Someone close to the Michigan program is saying Swenson is a lazy liar who avoided the coaches? You don't say...
|3 weeks 14 hours ago||You do realize that, even||
You do realize that, even with the Swenson drop, the staff is planning on being about 9-10 scholarships over the limit come signing day?
I'm not sure how you can distinguish this from Alabama tactics.
|3 weeks 14 hours ago||FYI, Michigan didn't get back||
FYI, Michigan didn't get back from the Citrus Bowl a month ago.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Its a "Quiet period" after||
Its a "Quiet period" after January 30th, so the recruiting process becomes more difficult.
Plus the contact with Northwestern is extremely recent.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I mean, recruiting insiders||
I mean, recruiting insiders have been saying that they don't think Swenson ends up in the class, they do however say NW is recruiting him. Swenson himself says it was due to "unforeseen circumstances".
I mean, you should be able to come up with a good idea of the circumstances here.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Jake Butt>>>>>>>>>Jeb||
Jake Butt>>>>>>>>>Jeb Blazevich
And they got a whole new offensive coaching staff as well.