"The University of Illinois is also in turmoil. The university sports an Interim Chancellor, an Interim Athletic Director, and an Interim Football Coach; the game will be played at Soldier Field, making this an Illini Interim Home Game."
|1 day 21 hours ago||Lucky bastard||
|1 day 21 hours ago||If you're in Miami, go to||
If you're in Miami, go to Kush in Wynnwood or LoKal in Coconut Grove and they'll tell you everything you want to know as well as serving up a lot of good local/regional beer.
|1 week 1 day ago||And this is why a 2 loss big||
And this is why a 2 loss big ten team, if it's the right one, still has a chance at a CoFoPo slot.
|1 week 1 day ago||This looks like a game where||
This looks like a game where you hope you can lean on O'Neil to progressively push PSU to starting possessions inside their 20, which results in us starting possessions between the 40's consistently enough to scratch out 23 points or so. It's a tough slog unless we get an easy score off a turnover or a punt return.
|1 week 2 days ago||UNC winning out may||
UNC winning out may invalidate Clemson and the ACC in general as much as it validates UNC. Undefeated FSU got stomped in the playoff last year, and even that was after being ranked behind one loss teams.
|1 week 5 days ago||You may be correct, but this||
You may be correct, but this actually happened a couple years back, and all anyone remembers now is, "Notre Dame made it all the way to the national championship game". Sure they got crushed by Alabama, but everyone does that. It's not a reason to avoid the contest.
|1 week 5 days ago||Yeah, that's what I mean, if||
Yeah, that's what I mean, if he's truly healthy. When Glasgow was available, there was no reason to even consider Mone for just a handful of snaps in a handful of games. With Glasgow out and a lot still on the line, the logic of Mone's redshirt changes dramatically. But of course only if actually healthy and in decent condition to play.
|1 week 5 days ago||If Ohio State wins out,||
If Ohio State wins out, you're right to say that the fourth spot comes down to a judgement between ND and the Big 12.
|1 week 5 days ago||I wonder if Durkin and||
I wonder if Durkin and Harbaugh would consider rotating Mone in at NT at this point. He's three months after his broken leg, and his redshirt is less valuable than a conference title, let alone a potential playoff berth.
|1 week 6 days ago||I don't know. LB is our||
I don't know. LB is our weakest unit, aside from running backs. Maybe that overhaul is just what the D needs.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Clearly this has nothing to||
Clearly this has nothing to do with Harbaugh, but this program in he last ten years has dispelled the notion that, on every single occasion and decision, coaches know best.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I think that's why M was||
I think that's why M was getting gashed in zone read keepers. Ojemudia and RJS both play that well, not so much for Ross it appears. Anyone know what happened with RJS?
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Targeting is just a bs call<br><br>Fixed it for you.||
Targeting is just a bs call
|4 weeks 5 days ago||I don't like Michigan's||
I don't like Michigan's chances if it comes down to the poll rank tiebreaker. Meyer has been successful at working the media in order to obtain a spot in the NC game in 2006 over us, and in the CoFoPo last year, both times from the fringe of the conversation. Even if we win out, if the tiebreaker for the conference championship game comes down to a vote, I expect OSU to be placed far enough ahead that our head to head win won't matter.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||In all but three factors,||
In all but three factors, Michigan played like a two touchdown winner. But, 14 point win minus Rudock factor, minus screw job factor, minus Act of God factor equals four point loss.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I'm going to this past||
I'm going to this past Saturday, and streaking across the punt formation right as they line up for the fateful kick. A beating and macing from security and a little jail time would be a fair trade for changing the course of history forever.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||+1,000,000. Just never||
+1,000,000. Just never bothered to try vs MSU, could have snuck a couple easy first downs that were not coming easy in this game
|11 weeks 4 days ago||The most convincing evidence||
The most convincing evidence is that M's offense ground to a halt the instant he tore his acl in the Ohio State game. The competitive part of the game essentially ended at that moment, so you have to give his some individual credit there, going against a very good D.
|12 weeks 7 hours ago||Going for two on consecutive||
Going for two on consecutive touchdowns, instead of kicking the point both times, gives you a statistically equal or better chance at getting 14+ points as kicking the point both times does. Going for two though also of course gives you the chance to score over 14, and thus win after coming from behind by 14 instead of just tying.
|12 weeks 1 day ago||Dave Brandon for NFL Commissioner||
Dave Brandon for NFL Commissioner
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Great moment. I watched this||
Great moment. I watched this game on a tiny tv in a laundromat while my mom and I washed every piece of cloth in my possession. A few days later I hopped a plane to DTW for my freshman year. It was the last "you'll be my child forever" moment I had with my mom. Good day all around.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||What's happened to us?Mgoblog||
What's happened to us?
|14 weeks 5 days ago||Alan Alda at a grocery||
Alan Alda at a grocery store.
|18 weeks 1 hour ago||It's "You may remember these||
It's "You may remember these running backs from seasons past as..." !!!
|19 weeks 35 min ago||Heroin, Velvet||
Heroin, Velvet Underground
|44 weeks 4 days ago||Florida is more like a fun||
Florida is more like a fun house mirror of the rest of the USA. At the border it's like Georgia, and the further down you go, the more it's full of Canadians
|1 year 7 weeks ago||Not that it matters, but the||
Not that it matters, but the catch was already made in bounds before any of the rulebook copied here applies. The replay guys just botched their review.
|1 year 7 weeks ago||Hoke isn't even trying||
When this was going on live, the classic rage sessions that even the worst coaches have with refs when something like this happens to their team came to mind. In just about every case, the coach wins and the refs admit their dumbshit mistake and fix the time. I expected the rage from Hoke, finally this time. Even if the running clock was somehow correct, at least you have to make a stink. But no. No, Hoke either didn't notice or didn't care. Unbelievable either way.
|1 year 8 weeks ago||One, Fade to Black, For Whom the Bell Tolls||
80's sad Metalica on the whole has a pretty apt mix of pain, rage and hopelessness.
|1 year 11 weeks ago||One last chance until we meet again||
|1 year 11 weeks ago||Plenty examples In the thread||
|1 year 33 weeks ago||Pacific northwest + Southeast||
Pacific northwest + Southeast Michigan + New York = Modesto
|1 year 35 weeks ago||Gonzaga fans should start an||
Gonzaga fans should start an "Underrated" chant to show proper respect to Arizona right now.
|1 year 35 weeks ago||This is awesome||
This is awesome
|1 year 37 weeks ago||Indiana scores, boo||
Illinois shutout broken up only five minutes in.
|1 year 38 weeks ago||Make them hit a single pole||
Make them hit a single pole instead of splitting uprights, problem solved.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||Don't give us too much credit for last year||
This time last year, there were all kinds of complaints, largely about Trey Burke! I don't think a single person here had a final four run in mind on Feb 12, 2013.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||Beat State||
that game will essentially be a conference championship game
|1 year 43 weeks ago||It's also correct||
It's also correct
|1 year 44 weeks ago||They should replace the goal||
They should replace the goal posts with a goal pole. Just a single post. Hit it and you score.
|2 years 4 days ago||Pets.com wasn't even a||
Pets.com wasn't even a failure yet 15 years ago. Therefore, your statement is invalid.
|2 years 8 weeks ago||M 30 - Minny 9||
National Championship: Georgia over Stanford, 36-32
|2 years 9 weeks ago||Green River, Utah is close to||
Green River, Utah is close to some of the best desolation this planet has to offer; Moab, Sleeping Ute, Canyonlands, etc. Even though you could die there, it was probably worth it.
|2 years 16 weeks ago||If I ever hatch an evil-genius plan to take over the world||
I would like permission to use your thread title to announce my apocalypse, and in exchange I promise to do it right here on mgoblog.
|2 years 17 weeks ago||Nicely done||
I see what you did there
|2 years 18 weeks ago||La Potee des Halles||
Great little place for dinner. It's at 3 Rue Etienne Marcel.
|2 years 51 weeks ago||They should focus on basketball for a while||
Fixing the football situation is easy: drop M and OSU in the same division, move the championship game to a home stadium and go to a 9 game conference schedule, 10 if they expand further. In general, football is already well monetized.
Basketball is not, and the Big Ten is a dominant basketball conference. I bet if they expanded the B1G-ACC Challenge into a full blown conference wide tournament, broadcast on BTN and the ACC Network, they could make a lot of TV money and eliminate a bunch of body bag pre-conference season games. Two weekends in December plus the week in between, after finals and before the decent bowls start. I would watch that.
|3 years 29 weeks ago||Arizona||
Everything to lose and nothing to gain is Dave Brandon's wheelhouse.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||Try this if that didn't work||
|3 years 46 weeks ago||Word. This should have been on saturday night||
I forgot about the game altogether until I saw this thread.
|4 years 6 weeks ago||This idea will seem downright bland, although familiar,||
after you see what they are doing in Moscow for the 2018 World Cup. If one particular stadium actually gets built as planned, it would set a good precedent for this Silverdome concept.
|4 years 8 weeks ago||Michigan Stadium goes 4 weeks||
Michigan Stadium goes 4 weeks in 2012, then 3 weeks in 2013 without a game in late September/early October. Whats up with that, are they clearing out the great weather weekends for weddings?
|4 years 12 weeks ago||I think LSU's tempo drill was a big failure||
The winning strategy appeared to be all the fat guys lay down on the field when you get tired.
This worked out pretty well for LSU in the first half, since there is apparently no rule against that kind of delay tactic in college football.
|4 years 18 weeks ago||Great Idea||
I have one suggestion. A section for reader input, whether wiki-style or stream of mgoconsciousness for each play would allow the community to chime in with thier own insights, etc in a way that has not been possible outside of real time live blogs.
I'm imagining two scenarios. One, Brian UFR's a play and says, "I think ...(something)... but the coaches may say something different in the comments" Let the coachy types comment right there, specific to that moment, and make us all smarter.
Two, a certain moment in the game induces a seismic shift in someone's personal philosophy, or maintains their status quo, which was previously in considerable peril. Like when Greg Mathews caught that TD on the wheel route against State in '07, or Braylonfest; or conversely when Appy State and then Dennis Dixon tore away the curtain earlier in '07; some enlightened mgouser probably remembers, "It was at this point that I realized ..." Let us all witness the moment and perhaps be enlightened ourselves.
Just a thought. And speaking of considerable peril:
|4 years 19 weeks ago||Brian hates Willie Heston so much||
|4 years 19 weeks ago||Exactly||
The surprising thing would be if the 2nd and 4th quarters were not a teams two worst defensive quarters, wrt to scoring defense.
On M's 2nd quarter flops, I think opponents spent the first quarter deploying their general gameplan and found the one or two easiest ways to eat up massive yardage. Then, they spent the 2nd quarter just eating up the yardage while we were powerless to stop them. RR/Gerg made some half time adjustments, and it was still bad but not as bad.
|4 years 19 weeks ago||Will Campbell||
Then Kenny Demens, then Carvin Johnson/Marvin Robinson.
|4 years 19 weeks ago||Please, thanks||
|4 years 20 weeks ago||Very good offense, piss poor defense. Why is it hard to accept?||
Arguing that Michigan's offense was not good enough, especially in that Wisconsin game, is like arguing that the moon should outshine the sun. It is absurd.
Even in the first half, the offense had two drives that would have been considered successful if they were delivered by a team that bothered to field a defense.
Possession 1: 1st and 10 from our one yard line, 35 yard drive and a punt to flip the field position
Possession 2: 50+ yard drive into the red zone earning a field goal attempt
Possessions 3 and 4: 3 & out resulting almost directly from a case of butter fingers.
In the third quarter the offense caught fire and scored as such.
RR did not suck at everything. At MIchigan, RR sucked at fielding a defense. RR sucked at fielding a kicking unit. He was fired because of the defense. He is legitimately very good at fielding an offense, and did so at Michigan.
|4 years 29 weeks ago||specific to recruiting||
"...gets it done in the classroom"
|4 years 34 weeks ago||Thanks Johnny, love your||
Thanks Johnny, love your writing.
|4 years 37 weeks ago||Michigan's program was going in the sink regardless of Webber||
Take a step back and look at the whole picture. Michigan had indeed lost institutional control of the program; lots of kids got money from Ed Martin. The fact that Webber lied to a Grand Jury is independent of UM.
Our own emotional need to pick a single scapegoat should not cloud the fact that many factors played into the demise of our hoops program, from Ed Martin working outside the rules, to Martin getting into actual legal trouble, to the program and University ignoring outside influences to players, etc.
I find it almost impossible to blame the kids for these types of issues, especially just one of several kids who "broke" rules.
|4 years 45 weeks ago||Reading coverage and finding passing lanes||
Reading coverage and finding passing lanes are his issues in the pocket. If Hoke can build in those skills, then great! Denard has the work ethic to learn and improve at anything. His height will always be an issue, but Troy Smith was short too. Chances are probably low that it works out, but Denard has made one quantum leap already; maybe he has another in him.
|4 years 46 weeks ago||May Jim Harbaugh have success in the NFL..||
But may he also spend the rest of his days being followed around by Michigan fans wearing our darkest blue M gear head to toe, silently staring at him like sad zombies.
|4 years 47 weeks ago||You're supposed to just know||
You're supposed to just know that Brady was the equivalent of a four star back then.
|5 years 2 days ago||Run the ball in the red zone. That means don't pass it!||
The offense is good enough to score without passing. Take all four downs and score touchdowns on the ground with no opportunity for picks or missed field goals. If they blow it, at least it was with their best unit. Penalties will doom this strategy, but whatev, interceptions are worse.
On defense, bring five or six guys to the backfield on every play and jump short routes, until OSU reaches the red zone. Forget about being "multiple." The defense is terrible, but they have to be able to execute "jam, stay inside of receivers at all costs, watch QB, play the ball" Then, play off in the red zone and let Pryor try to throw into a bounded sea of maize pants; this has worked to a certain extent in the past iirc.
|5 years 6 days ago||Leg(s) of lamb would be||
Leg(s) of lamb would be perfect, it goes really well with the sweet side dishes of Thanksgiving.
|5 years 2 weeks ago||College football||
College football is the only minor league football that will make money, because millions of people have a built-in emotional bond to local schools or their alma mater and will pay money to watch their teams play.
To get a minor football league to work well, you might have to disband college football.
|5 years 2 weeks ago||Doesn't matter if they have Clay or not||
Wiscy will run on us a lot.
|5 years 5 weeks ago||Boise State vs. TCU is the most likely MNC game at this point||
Auburn is the only legitimate MNC candidate right now, but they will have to be special indeed to finish undefeated. The Iron Bowl will be colossal this year. MSU, Missouri, Oregon can all prove themselves in the next couple weeks. I predict all BCS teams will lose at least once, and BSU and TCU have made it unscathed to their two month long cupcake munch.
On that note, I will praying hard for MSU to lose next week, so they don't stumble over backwards into a MNC game matchup with the Mountain West.
Anyway, No. 1's losing repeatedly happens all the time. Its just as common as the 2005's and 2009's, where two or three teams plow through the entire schedule and stay 1-2.
|5 years 5 weeks ago||Competence at three levels.||
Competence at three levels. This is probably a pipe dream, but anything more is a pipe dream using opium.
|5 years 7 weeks ago||M 35 MSU 34||
M 35 MSU 34
|5 years 7 weeks ago||Aside from everyone, I don't||
Aside from everyone, I don't think anyone did.
|5 years 9 weeks ago||This happened last year||
Sparty brought their best to our game. They always do. No reason to expect that M will not have a battle on its hands on October 9.
|5 years 10 weeks ago||I don't think its fair to blame the AD for today's situation||
The AD can't give up 37 points to a 1AA team, and it can't avoid the team having a letdown after an emotionally draining start to the season. Who are we supposed to schedule if we fear the FCS? Rich Rod's job is to win games, Brandon's job is to make the AD money and keep it. They (barely) accomplished both today
It is the responsibility of the entire program to uphold the image of M football. The AD did what it could scheduling a lower division team, and our team's letdown was so great that we are here complaining that an even weaker team should have been brought in? Come on.
|5 years 10 weeks ago||and Notre Dame to go 11-1||
and Notre Dame to go 11-1 with a BCS title game berth.
|5 years 11 weeks ago||Look at the penalty count.||
Look at the penalty count. If it happens to everyone, and it was called evenly, that count is absurd. Penalties were not called evenly in this game, its part of being in South Bend.
|5 years 11 weeks ago||I predict the painful||
I predict the painful penalties will drop precipitously now that they won't be in South Bend for two years.
|5 years 11 weeks ago||The fanfare around college||
The fanfare around college football, the legendary games, coaches and players, the perfect sport, the multiple histories told differently by different sides inspires something like nationalism in each school. It sucks you in. Then you go to school there and watch games in the holy arenas of the sport, and you see new legends born with your own eyes. There is no closer connection between fan and athlete than in college sports. Your social life and friendships revolve to a point around the games, and the game experiences get woven into the fabric of your whole college experience. Its like a new sibling being born or getting married, the bond is unbreakable, no matter the circumstances.
I don't enjoy college football as much as I am addicted to it. It became part of me.
|5 years 11 weeks ago||The game sets up similar to||
The game sets up similar to Braylon-fest, 2004. Floyd executes Braylon-fest in the second half, and the game ends within a field goal. The luckier team wins.
|5 years 11 weeks ago||When did RichRod become the||
When did RichRod become the coach at Penn State?
|5 years 11 weeks ago||They consistently act like||
They consistently act like something other than they are. When they win, they think they do it with humility. When they lose, they think they do it with their chin up. Their fans/alumni on the whole are a general study in self delusion. They literally believe God is on their side, which is preposterous. I know for a fact that God hates Notre Dame University.
|5 years 12 weeks ago||And so completes a literally||
And so completes a literally epic team preview. This site has outdone itself once again. XOXOXO
|5 years 12 weeks ago||9-3, 10-3||
|5 years 12 weeks ago||On the other hand, no matter||
On the other hand, no matter how long it took to get it, we deserve that god damned trophy! Beat them every year and we get what we always deserved.
I agree with those that say this would not be a rivalry fabricated out of nothing. Two of the more memorable bitter moments in M history in the past two decades have related directly to Nebraska.
|5 years 12 weeks ago||Lloyd Carr owned the SEC||
We haven't seen what RichRod will do with them just yet
|5 years 12 weeks ago||That is an awesome idea.||
That is an awesome idea.
|5 years 12 weeks ago||We got a very favorable draw||
We got a very favorable draw for the first two years, which are already setting up to be big years for this team. And MSU got completely hosed. I have to hand it Brandon at least a little. Aside from the opposite divisions, all of this worked out in M's favor imo.
|5 years 12 weeks ago||Publicly criticizing one guy||
Publicly criticizing one guy for making public criticisms about another guy is hypocritical. Plus, I love Braylon, and he can come to the light whenever he wants.
|5 years 12 weeks ago||MSU scored fewer points than||
MSU scored fewer points than all of our Big Ten opponents. While frustrating on a play by play basis, this strategy is fine with me. Much better than what happened in many other games.
|5 years 12 weeks ago||Cinematic perfection||
|5 years 13 weeks ago||Straight geography but dumping MSU from our side looks good|
|5 years 13 weeks ago||Why don't you have one up and running?||
Link us to it when you are finished. Most will thank you for providing a free service. One or two dicks will complain that you don't update it often enough.
|5 years 13 weeks ago||Bring every type of clothing for October in Ann Arbor||
You will use them all in any two day period. After sunset, it will just be cool to cold though.
|5 years 13 weeks ago||The most condescending thing I heard today?||
"I do believe that one of the things people have lost track of in all of the noise is that if Michigan and Ohio State are in the same division, Michigan and Ohio State will never again play for the Big Ten championship -- we will never again play for the Rose Bowl. I think there's a lot of people that just haven't focused on that, and they need to understand that."
Thank you David Brandon. In my silly attempts at reason, I completely misunderstood the singular point that you have been putting across for the past week. Here I was, wondering why you would gladly blow up the greatest rivalry in football based on a three-year revenue projection, why you so dearly cling to the idea that LucasOil Stadium is a more appropriate location for a M-OSU game than Michigan Stadium or the Horseshoe, why a once in five years occurrence is more valuable than a century old tradition of pitting two viscous rivals against one another annually in a game that means much more than sometimes placing a Rose Bowl participant, why you would throw away so much that is already valuable for the hope at getting something of similar value.
|5 years 13 weeks ago||If this comes to pass||
Ohio State vs. Penn State will become "The Greatest Rivalry in College Football" by 2015 and Michigan will meet OSU in a Big Ten title game once every five years for a rematch in one of the worst conceivable settings. This is an epic blunder, and it is completely fucking obvious!
Thank you David Brandon!
|5 years 13 weeks ago||Say you put them in opposite divisions and still play last||
That's not so bad, since there will likely not be a rematch. In that case, we have your "woo" scenario. I have no problem with that.
M vs. OSU in Michigan Stadium on the last day of the regular season is the antithesis of sterile! Are you serious? Adding a team and splitting into divisions does change the game. However, that does not blow the game up all by itself. We can maintain the organic perfection of this particular rivalry and this game by playing it at the end of the season. I now see that we agree there. Same division, different division, just play last. That finality means something.
On the Big Ten title game, I refuse to hang my hopes for a proper Big Ten climax on a game played in Indianapolis. Much better would be the final regular season weekend featuring M-OSU, PSU-Nebraska, all playing for that spot in the title game.
|5 years 13 weeks ago||You sir, are wrong. You||
You sir, are wrong. You sacrifice the game as is for the off chance at a rematch in Indianapolis? Indianapolis? It is sterile and anti-climatic, devoid of emotional context.
|5 years 13 weeks ago||Are you predicting a season||
Are you predicting a season opening loss to Connecticut? You have them ranked, so I presume it means you believe they are better than M.
|5 years 14 weeks ago||I like the thought, but I||
I like the thought, but I would prefer a full round robin, 11 game schedule if we are just adding games for money.
|5 years 14 weeks ago||2008: UT vs. OU||
The game was in October, as always, the sun was out and summer still hung in the air. Not a great time for a cold weather showdown of two college football titans. Texas won and looked quite good doing it. Fast forward to November. Texas has recently lost one game and is now tied with OU. The last game of the season means everything, and they are not playing eachother, no. Both win, and OU ends up in the conference championship game by a ludicrous tiebreaker.
If that October game was played last and the outcome the same, there is absolutely no doubt the championship game participant would have been Texas, not OU. Therefore, the timing of the game is critical and the outcome of the game is only critical if it is played last. Our biggest game should be the last one, for as many marbles as possible. Its simply undeniable.
|5 years 14 weeks ago||Nothing to see here.||
|5 years 14 weeks ago||In opposite divisions, the||
In opposite divisions, the game will rarely result in a rematch. Its just one more loss in-conference, meaning you have to go through the rest of your slate with 0-1 other losses. A UM-OSU big ten championship game will happen once in ten years in this scenario.
What we want is for them to play for the most they can possibly play for every year, not a hope for a chance at a rematch in the big ten championship.
|5 years 14 weeks ago||Not even the college football||
Not even the college football world stops for an October match up of teams of almost unknowable quality. Its too early. This game should be played for as much as it can possibly be played for. With two divisions, that is a Division Championship and an almost guaranteed spot in the Big Ten title game.
Were we pissed that the '06 game did not determine the National Champion? Hell no! It meant everything to us and to our teams at the time. Everyone knew that the MNC game would likely feature only one of us, and it was fine.
Splitting into divisions takes that one small step backwards, but putting M and OSU on opposite sides and playing early will relegate the greatest rivalry in sports to Formerly The Greatest Rivalry in Sports, and Now Just Another October Warm Up Game, The Results of Which Will Be Overshadowed in November.
FTGRISANJAOWUGTROWWBON, for short.
|5 years 14 weeks ago||For shit's sake!||
Can these guys really be this mind-fucked?
No one's chances at winning a Big Ten championship increase or decrease with this asinine move. All it does is devalue the game to UT-OU status, a nice early season side show that is clearly outweighed by late season games.
|5 years 14 weeks ago||Anyone on the team who's last||
Anyone on the team who's last name is Robinson. I am not necessarily excluding GERG here.
|5 years 14 weeks ago||General Excitement Level: Moderate-plus?||
|5 years 15 weeks ago||I'm with you,||
keep it the last regular season game, keep them in the same division and give a two week gap to the conference championship game. There is plenty of time for it if they play to the first week of December.
Flipping OSU and MSU on our schedule would lessen the OSU game, marginalizing the greatest rivalry in sports. Where is the upside?
OU-Texas in 2008 gives a good example of how this can go bad. UT beat OU and clearly looked better doing it, in October. OU spent the last week of the season beating up TT instead of playing UT, made their way into the MNC game and Texas got screwed. That Big XII season would have been best served seeing OU-UT in the last week.
|5 years 16 weeks ago||Its possible that the nine||
Its possible that the nine game Big Ten schedule is up and running in 2012, and that M will get five home conference games. Its not Alabama, but its something. Maybe Nebraska is our fifth home game, who knows?
Look on the bright side FannMan, this is a strong long term move for the program. Also, they have to sell those tickets to somebody, I would be shocked if season ticket holders did not get first dibs at face value.
|5 years 16 weeks ago||+1 for Kibbie Dome reference||
+1 for Kibbie Dome reference
|5 years 16 weeks ago||Its two years away. Two||
Its two years away. Two years is like an entire generation in college football, nothing is predictable this far out. Besides we have all of the Summer of 2012 to fret over the ramifications of the actual game. Right now, it is just good to see Michigan acting with confidence, imo.
|5 years 16 weeks ago||It signifies a simultaneous vote of confidence in, and challenge||
to, the entire football program. All of Brandon's moves seem to have a deeply held confidence behind them. To me, this is DB saying, "Without fretting over small details, I know our program can and should be a consistent super power. Coaches, administrators, everyone: I'll get you everything you need, go handle the details and make it happen."
His style is right on as much as it is exciting to watch.
|5 years 16 weeks ago||If Texas will not come to the Big Ten,||
the Big Ten will go to Texas!
What an intriguing match up. North vs. South, Red vs. Blue, Offensive Genius vs. Defense Genius, Left vs. Right, Right vs. Wrong. Its pretty much God vs. the Devil.
|5 years 16 weeks ago||Good!||
Refereeing is a necessary evil in every sport, not the attraction. Whatever technology can do to limit the capability of refs to make mistakes is good.
The "human element" in sports comes from the players, not the refs.
|5 years 16 weeks ago||When all else fails,||
remember the bomb sniffing dogs of 2004.
|5 years 17 weeks ago||Low||
Demens looks like the short term future at MLB, and Ezeh is still around this year.
If you see Moundros at LB, something either very good (30 point lead) or very bad (Injury to Demens or Ezeh) has probably happened.
|5 years 17 weeks ago||Oops.||
Anyway, Harris deserves two threads.
|5 years 17 weeks ago||This statement blows up your previous argument||
If passing is high risk, so you run, then Michigan holding the ball and scoring a couple more TD's increases M's chances for victory. We saw TP throw. He had one pick, and that screen for a TD. If under more pressure to score in the passing game, there was no evidence in that game that TP could score instead of throwing picks.
They ran all day, just like in 2007, to avoid their own poor QB play. If M hadn't spent the whole game punching itself in the face, their poor QB play would go on display, and then who knows what would happen? You can't argue that Pryor would all of a sudden become a good QB under more pressure as opposed to less.
M gave away ten points in that game, OSU's offense scored twice. If Michigan had avoided all TO's, they probably score about 14 more points, and give up seven less. That's 24-14 M and Pryor has to pull a win from somewhere Tressel clearly doesn't want him to go. I argue that he would not have been able to do it.
|5 years 17 weeks ago||No way||
Say "Big Twelve" to yourself a hundred times, It just sounds awkward.
|5 years 22 weeks ago||jinx||
|5 years 31 weeks ago||Good to see Stephen Hopkins is definitely all in||
He already signed this thing!
|5 years 31 weeks ago||This is the best and simplest scheme||
It even respects most of the historic rivalries. You play the other division teams at least once in three years. That talk about once in ten years is fearmongering I tell you!
The other benefit is that this will force the other conferences to align in 16 team groups. With the Plus One concept, conference championship games would then be something like round one of real three round playoff, wooooo!
|5 years 32 weeks ago||Leave what's left to fend for themselves via the BCS standings||
Heartless, but the same situation the non-BCS schools are in now. In the world of the superconference, a non-BCS Boise State would stand the same chance to reach the championship game that they have now.
|5 years 32 weeks ago||One benefit of the 16 team conference||
Call me crazy, but this could have some great benefits, specifically approaching an unofficial national championship playoff if other conferences follow suit.
Right now, there are I believe 69 BCS teams, plus ND, plus a few consistently high quality non-BCS teams in D 1A. If the Big Ten goes to 16 by poaching four from the B12 and the Big East, plus ND, it is not a big step to foresee others doing the same. Four 16-team conferences, each split into two eight team divisions hold 64 of the 75 or so worthy contenders.
With a setup like that, you have some real organization, eight 8-team round robin divisions producing a legitimate division champ, conference championship games doubling as a simile to national quarterfinals, and the BCS system providing the semi-finals. All you need to add is the Plus One concept, and voila, a real national championship playoff. Or close to it in any case, and without the idiocy of a 16-team postseason tournament.
Perhaps that is an unlikely scenario, but it is the biggest benefit that I see for fans from such a large expansion.
|5 years 36 weeks ago||ha. jfk.||
|5 years 51 weeks ago||If your best friend is a Notre Dame fan,||
and you are not, then you are probably not that into sports. I can't imagine anything sports related being more awful than this. I hope you made this whole story up.
|5 years 51 weeks ago||And the former coaches, by this logic||
Ezeh was the returning starter at middle linebacker when the current guys showed up. Are you saying his failure is their fault? He has never been good at this position. If he is not blitzing, he is a spectator.
|5 years 51 weeks ago||Complete speculation||
but if I am Courtney Avery or Carvin Johnson, I would be considering other options as well, with all the top flight DB's taking visits and making commitments right now.
Grimes would make 6 DB's this class. Knight would make 7, but I doubt we will take more than six. I know nothing, I'm just sayin.
|6 years 1 week ago||Disagree||
If M could execute its passing game to the flats, the offense with Tate at QB would be excellent and able to keep defenses permanently off balance. They can't yet, maybe they will next year.
Tate is a solid passer, looked better in the pocket today than at any time this season. He made a few soul crushing mistakes, but he is a true freshman. As the years go by, those will be replaced by confident play within the offense and the moxie-infused plays we have seen scattered around already this season.
To sum up, my point is that it is foolish to give up on a guy, especially in that position, after his true freshman season.
|6 years 4 weeks ago||Definitely not, its too early||
However, at some point in the very near future, someone needs to emerge from within or join the team that will somehow compel them to become fundamentally sound.
I believe continuity at the head coach and coordinators will allow this to happen. But RR needs to find someone (position coaches?) to teach tackling, kick catching and non-fumbling. Can it all possibly be solved by just having experienced players on the field next year or the year after? I hope so, because coaching doesn't seem to be working.
|6 years 4 weeks ago||You are way off||
Warren is an excellent college football player, and is as likely as ever to be a solid pro corner. He happens to play on a team with poor safeties and linebackers who are not strong in pass coverage. He is one of two starters in the back seven (Brown) who can consistently make a solo tackle, he is excellent in man coverage and he has made huge plays this season.
Where are you coming from, are you just trying to convince us that he should stay next season?
|6 years 9 weeks ago||Linebacker was considered one||
Linebacker was considered one of the deepest position groups preseason. I'm just sayin.
|6 years 9 weeks ago||I believe most scrimmages, at||
I believe most scrimmages, at least at M, are first team vs. second team. So, if you have great depth on both sides of the ball, you will get the most out of scrimmages.
I would say you are right to think that the statement is false. For example, you have to believe that our second team D this year is not good at all, yet our offense appears to be a well oiled machine for long stretches of play. This is the exact opposite of last year, when our O stunk and we thought perhaps that was hurting the progress of our D. I'm not sure that was really the main problem anymore.
|6 years 10 weeks ago||On the other hand, the||
On the other hand, the forgotten bootleg fake on hand offs and the fact that they only run one play from the "rollout formation" both tend to indicate a poorly conceived offensive game plan, iyam.
|6 years 12 weeks ago||That sucks, but not the end of the world||
Our running game should be fine in this game. Better to save Minor for ND, if he can fully recover by then.
|6 years 12 weeks ago||Fah Crow Zen Berg, Clap, Clap, Clap Clap Clap||
How about that, in the classic fashion?
|6 years 12 weeks ago||The way I see it, this year's team has leadership||
and last year's team had very little, if any. Most of the freep 'expose' was quoting guys that are no longer on the team.
A group of "current OR former players" is a lot different than group of "current AND former players" The FP chose its wording carefully, but all of the guys giving unnamed quotes could be former players. These are guys that left with a bad taste in their mouths, but they are now gone and guys like Warren, Minor, Ortman, Ezeh, Van Bergen, etc have stepped up a long time ago.
The freep story is old news inside the team, and a group with strong leaders will tend to rally around one another in this kind of situation. I hope and expect that in our case.
F the world, us against them, let the AD handle the BS. If it were me, I could rally around something like that.
|6 years 12 weeks ago||I see what you guys are getting at||
If a guy eventually starts, it means his talent/skill was developed to a degree. If he earns All-Conference, All-America and/or gets drafted, he was developed to a higher degree. The concept of attrition is irrelevant since you are talking about player development of guys that stayed on the team. The difference between single- and multi-year starter is irrelevant since the point is that he was made good enough to start at some point, and therefore developed to that *** level.
In that context, I take my previous criticism back as the current ranking system will be able to give you what you are looking for, and the difference in the USC numbers now makes sense to me.
I think I was subconciously looking for a grade of a recruiting class w.r.t. overall team quality, or the net positive or negative impact a class has on its team. For example, the McBean ranking method might show that the guys who dodged fate and were able to stick out their playing days from the 2005 class performed just slightly below their Rivals ranks, if taken as a whole. The highly rated guys that stayed, Manningham and TT, were both drafted so ****, Grady and Zoltan will cancel each other out, a few *** who started at some point, Savoy who may not start, then Moosman and Harrison who were 5.8 four stars that will probably rank at McBean ***. Thus, the class was slightly underdeveloped upon leaving UM, a point that could and probably should be criticized in its own right.
In my own private ratings, the 2005 class was an almost unmitigated disaster that set the program back at least a year (2008) and has a visibly negative impact on two others (2007 and 2009). A lot of that has to do with attrition, and only a little with underdevelopment of talent. But this appears to be a different point altogether.
|6 years 12 weeks ago||My bad||
I must have misunderstood.
|6 years 12 weeks ago||Most of your comments up to now are totally valid||
defending the journalistic integrity of the freep. However, you just stated that the Dispatch should have no such integrity. Because of money? I think that patent unfairness would be one of the main points of other posters.
|6 years 12 weeks ago||I would like to give you more than +1 for this comment,||
but that is all I have. I fell asleep in class more than once, and I am just fine now, lol. Give us a break.
|6 years 13 weeks ago||Oops.||
busted coverage! Don't look here.
|6 years 13 weeks ago||I see what you are saying w.r.t. added complexity,||
However, you will have a really hard time getting a valuable result if you don't go there. About every class you rank under this method will get you around 3.1 or 3.2. First, going season by season, and second using a little more discreetized range of values will help you a lot, possibly to the point of getting proper results. Just my opinion, obviously.
|6 years 13 weeks ago||Well, if you are not against sweeping generalizations||
I can tell you that I can not recall a time that Brown was tackled behind the line of scrimmage or pushed backwards when tackled. He always moves forward while being tackled.
To sum up, I think Brown would be great on his own, in the unfortunate scenario that we don't have Minor available.
|6 years 13 weeks ago||I concur.||
|6 years 13 weeks ago||That's at least a little unfair||
In his two chances to start games and carry the load at RB, he ran for 100+. Did he do it without breaking any tackles? Do I care?
|6 years 13 weeks ago||There are a few limits to this rating system||
1. Every class is destined to "underperform" given your current rating system. If the average M recruiting class has, say one five star, 10 four stars, eight three stars and two two stars, you will have a roster with almost 50 players that Rivals rated as four or five stars. There is no way every one of these guys on any team in the country can be a starter and All-Conference, which is the limit for a McBean four star ranking. So, saying the classes underperform is a misnomer in my opinion.
I think the thing to look for would be the average or expected return on four or five star recruits after your re-ranking. That number would be the one to make comparison to, and the comparison would be of the most value if we also incorporate other teams that recruit at a high level consistently.
2. The McBean system is missing a golden opportunity to incorporate the quality of play over all four years of player eligibility. For example, a one year starter gets the same raking as a three year starter if the three year starter did not earn All-Conference status. In my opinion, a three year starter was by definition more valuable to his team than a one year starter, and should be ranked higher as a result.
Also, was a three year All-American like Charles Woodson of greater or equal value to a one year All-American like Earnest Shazor?
3. We have only four categories to drop guys into in this system. Rivals already has at least 13 categories, from 4.9 to 6.1. This ranking should do something similar, again to help differentiate between the masses of guys that will end up in the three star category.
4. Based on point No. 2 you might do well to create a composite ranking that does not exactly match the 1-5 star Rivals system, but calculates a cumulative ranking incorporating all four years of eligibility and media honors.
For example, if a guy does nothing much for two years (2* + 2*, or something like 5.0 + 5.0) , starts his third year (3*, or 5.6-ish) and earns all conference honors his senior year (4*, or 5.9-6.0), you can add that all up and get a four year ranking of:
2 + 2 + 3 + 4 = 11, or
This kind of composite rank will allow to much more easily differentiate between overachievers, underachievers and your average M player.
|6 years 14 weeks ago||What about liabilities who were starters?||
There should be a way to differentiate this in a good ranking of players while they were here. No need to drop any names, but there have certainly been guys who started that actively hurt the team. Giving that guy the same ranking as a servicable starter seems unfair.
For example, Player X as a starter made countless mistakes during games that cost the team wins.
Player Y was not a particularly vocal or high profile starter, but rarely, if ever, came in for a beating at UFR time.
I think the current method ranks them both as three stars. However I would argue that Player X would fit better in the two star group. He started for reasons we can only guess at or was just part of a unit with extraordinarily poor depth or had great quantities of untapped potential, etc.
|6 years 14 weeks ago||Awesome to hear that about Michael Williams||
If he can perform well at Strong Safety, this defense may be quite a bit better than many expect.
|6 years 14 weeks ago||That's pretty unfair, consider this statement||
that was the Big Ten and this is the SEC. Aside from OSU, Penn State and maybe Iowa, I doubt the Big Ten had much talent to defend RR's schemes...
Every conference has good and bad teams.
|6 years 14 weeks ago||Ding ding ding||
Behold the method to RR's recruiting madness:
"Michigan's [offense] has the possibility of being extraordinarily multiple this year: they've got two or three slot receivers, a fullback, two tight ends, three or four tailbacks. Everything from four and five-wides to double TE ace sets to traditional I-form is possible. If it works they can confuse the hell out of everyone. And if it doesn't, they can try something else."
Recruiting to more offensive positions is the only way to make this happen. More O recruits, less D recruits in general, its all part of the plan.
|6 years 14 weeks ago||3-9, yes||
Everything else, oh no!
The system is not keeping recruits away, it is the hopelessly awful season last year, almost entirely. Big time program + big time winning brings big time recruits. The system then becomes basically irrelevant.
|6 years 14 weeks ago||Safe, legal, available to all = OK||
This is true for many other supplements or treatments that enhance performance.
Steroids mess with your body in ways you probably don't understand when you take them, and you pay the physical price later. As a result, they are illegal. As a result of that, they are not consistently available to all competitors, and therefore also unfair.
So, if you had a performance enhancing pill or whatever with long term side effects similar to ibuprofen, there is no reason it should be illegal or banned from sports. I think there are already dozens of these though.
|6 years 15 weeks ago||Apparently that is the rule. Not so nice, Mr. Saban.||
I checked the eight guys that were eliminated from their roster since spring for either a medical reason or breaking a team rule. There was a sole returning starter, one 2nd string player and six guys 3rd or worse on the depth chart. All of this is based on last year's pre-season depth chart:
Pos Name, Year – 2008 Rank on pre season depth chart
LB Brandon Fanney, Sr. - 1st string
"violated some type of team rule or policy and were not invited back on our team," Saban said. Hall transfered to Central Washington, while Lawrence and Preyear are looking into other schools. Saban said he hopes Fanney will graduate before leaving UA.
OL Evan Cardwell, Sr. – 2nd string, center
were placed on medical scholarship, thus ending playing careers with the Crimson Tide. Each can remain at UA on scholarship but will not count toward the team's 85-man limit.
|6 years 15 weeks ago||Michigan left spring with 79 scholarship players||
lost three in the meantime, and now has 76. Bama left spring practice with 98 guys on scholarship! If someone proved that Saban booted any players that leave him with a depth issue at any position, I would be surprised. I wonder what is the team rule those guys broke? "Being, or even appearing to have a chance of being, a fourth string player is forbidden! Do it, and I will find a reason to cut you."
|6 years 15 weeks ago||Actually possible||
If someone really saw the parking lot full of cars, and the first official team meeting is tomorrow, it seems that some smart seniors called a players-only pre-camp meeting. This makes a lot of sense.
Meanwhile, the rest of us are wondering whether or not Mike Hart is going to be coaching our Thursday night game against WMU with Michael Vick playing QB...
|6 years 16 weeks ago||The way they appear to be setting up the team||
is so the defense will have 11 distinct positions, and they will of course each be on the field at the same time. If a 5th db is needed sometime, Stevie Brown is it. If they need more or fewer linebackers or DE-types, the hybrids stay on the field but play a slightly different position.
The offense has more like 14 distinct positions: QB, 5 OL, 2 WR, 2 Slot, 2 RB, 1 TE and sometimes a fullback. Even though they cant all take the field simultaneously, the offense is designed to use them all extensively.
So, to get a three-deep at each position, you end up with just 33 defenders because of the hybrids and 42 on offense. Another three on each side takes care of injury-prone or highly important positions, such as QB, RB and CB, where you may want more than a three deep.
So, that's how I get to 45:36. The current roster more or less reflects that, except for a deficiency of a few DB's.
|6 years 16 weeks ago||I think the O vs. D scholarship numbers||
will always be imbalanced, even moreso than 42 Offense:39 Defense. Considering the hybrid defenders and the number of offensive sets requiring different positions on the field at different times, this ratio under RR will be more like 45:36, with four slots for special teams or positionless athletes.
Either way, the numbers in the defensive backfield are clearly too low, but I would argue by only three or four because that is not counting the Steve Brown position.
|6 years 16 weeks ago||I agree on Mouton||
Haven't seen what a lot of others seen to see in Ezeh yet. I hope we do this year.
|6 years 17 weeks ago||I'm for it||
Maybe it doesn't apply here, but the combo of Favre and Vick sounds kind of like a mentoring throw back to Carter and Moss in '99.
|6 years 17 weeks ago||I love your enthusiasm,||
I really do. And this is only a suggestion. I think you should read more and write less for two years. Read a lot, and from many sources. That will fix you right up.
Also, Bo was a non-Michigan man when he got here. As was Yost.
|6 years 17 weeks ago||Nice read||
The inconsistencies inside our "free market system" disturb me more and more all the time.
|6 years 17 weeks ago||M's 2006 defense was excellent, but had very little depth in the||
back seven. In the OSU game, Barringer went down early with a knee injury and Burgess was banged up and didn't play a lot. So, get ready for this...we had Ryan Mundy AND Johnny Sears AND Chris Graham on the field at the same time a lot. Three guys that played mostly garbage time in the first 11 games. OSU took advantage of all three repeatedly. The Anthony Gonzalez touchdown drive to finish the first half was particularly painful to watch.
Anyway, on this year, maybe we don't know what to expect. I can tell you that I expect the defense to appear to be much improved only because the special teams and offense will be improved, scoring more and fumbling much less. The defense will be in better game/field position situations consistently.
Is the 3rd and long problem from last year fixed? No one will know until sometime in mid- to late-september, and I'm sure no one wants to talk about it anyway. Those were daggers last season.
|6 years 17 weeks ago||A point that seems oddly||
A point that seems oddly missed in this discussion.
|6 years 17 weeks ago||Bummer, but I thought the||
Bummer, but I thought the rule was that they had to have at least six home games in CT per season. One of the other six could be at a faux neutral site, no?
Still, even if it is in Storrs, its close to the NYC media, who will naturally be forced to eat it up. There are literally thousands and thousands of M alums here, and most have money to buy cable/papers/magazines/...
|6 years 17 weeks ago||Well, the Meadowlands would||
Well, the Meadowlands would be better, but I hear that the Yankees are considering having some college football at the Stadium in the future. So, why not us? On the other hand, I didn't realize how small the capacity was earlier.
|6 years 17 weeks ago||Michigan is smart to play East Coast teams||
Playing in ESPN's back yard, or better yet, NYC, will mean massive early season publicity. Also, it will give the many thousands of UM alums in New England a chance to see our boys up close.
Who's to say UConn's 2013 'home game' won't be played in Yankee Stadium?. I would go to that game.
On taking UConn as the New Big House Opener, M's schedule next year is very tough already. ND, PSU and OSU on the road, all of which may be quite good. UConn is a good pick, iyam.
|6 years 17 weeks ago||A return game played in||
A return game played in Yankee Stadium or the Meadowlands would make this deal very worthwhile.
On top of that, week two next year is probably on the road at ND, who should be at least very good by then.
|6 years 17 weeks ago||I was just about to write the||
I was just about to write the same thing. Michigan could fill any NYC/Boston area stadium for one game.
|6 years 17 weeks ago||This is great material||
Thanks for doing that.
|6 years 18 weeks ago||Thanks||
I think that is something that we often overlook in our gnashing of teeth over safety play in the last decade. Carr produced some excellent corners.
As far as special teams, I honestly believe if M had avoided punted balls like the plague and let every kickoff roll out the back of the endzone, they probably would have been .500 last season. Oh well!
Anyway, enjoy the rest of your first day on the inside.
|6 years 18 weeks ago||Offensive putrescence definitely had something to do with it||
Michigan's third down defense was also awful though. I remember a lot of good first and second down defense being soulcrushed on third and nine. I think it had something to do with a switch from heavy reliance on good corner play in Carr's D to heavy reliance on good safety play in Shafer's D. Our safeties were not up to that challenge in year one. I don't know though.
Either way, last year could not have happened without an outright catastrophe of special teams, offense and defense if you ask me. Although, you could say that our D was doomed from day one, having no one to practice against but our botched abortion of an offense.
|6 years 18 weeks ago||Let me google that for you|
|6 years 18 weeks ago||The labels given in the media||
The labels given in the media have been inconsistent since GERG arrived, but I think your second paragraph has it right.
|6 years 19 weeks ago||Nice work. This is one||
Nice work. This is one parody I would not have predicted.
|6 years 19 weeks ago||Graham + Mouton = Good||
I like the idea of setting B. Graham and Mouton on the weak side of the O, along with Steve Brown. I suppose GRob has many ideas on how to attack the weak side tackle and get one of these three guys in the backfield consistently.
Also, agreed, there are probably not very many good reasons to put Graham in a position that he would be covering receivers.
|6 years 23 weeks ago||After Minor and Graham||
Offense: Brown, Hemingway, Forcier
|6 years 25 weeks ago||caption||
"Brains!!!" Notre Dame alums caught in the act of the secret ritual of offering the brain flesh of a first born child to former head football coach Lou Holtz. The University is under NCAA and FBI investigation.
|6 years 25 weeks ago||If one wide receiver could||
If one wide receiver could help the Lions, I think one would have done it by now.
|6 years 25 weeks ago||Thinks you CROSSING THE LINE||
Thinks you CROSSING THE LINE at direct insults. just epinion.
|6 years 28 weeks ago||I think you meant the||
I think you meant the writer's intentionalisumitation, which is far more appropriate in that context.
|6 years 28 weeks ago||Almost any defensive starter||
The thing about this year's team is it appears to have a quality one-deep on defense but nothing close to a good two-deep depth chart. So, since I believe the closer a guy is to the line of scrimmage, the greater his consistent impact on the game will be, I would say:
would be more critical losses than any offensive starter other than Tate. I put Brown and Van Bergen a little lower because Brown has not proven to be a consistent positive anyway, and Van Bergen can probably be the most ably backed up by either Patterson or Banks imo.
Also, its not that I think Fitz will be a low grade backup at LB, its that I think either he or Ezeh will be at Spinner sometime soon.
|6 years 31 weeks ago||Never!||
Even if it made perfect sense to root for ND, I can't. The hatred just flows naturally out of me, and I hope they are embarrassed in every contest of any sport they play.
Anyway, what's wrong with Urban coaching up in the north? I think RR and Meyer are on roughly equal ground when it comes to mastery of college football. It could seriously invigorate the rivalry.
|6 years 32 weeks ago||How about no one?||
Seriously though, think about this. If Michigan had simply refused to take part in kick and punt returns last season, they could have gone 6-6.
I'll take Mathews catching punts and going nowhere with them all season instead of some true freshman who is scared shitless back there.
As far as kick returns, our two fastest tailbacks are Shaw and Brown, so there you go. If they start fumbling, there are more guys, but I would prefer they stick Potempa back there to just down them in the endzone.
|6 years 32 weeks ago||How many leftovers does it||
How many leftovers does it take to fill a top ten recruiting class? Only you must know the answer.
|6 years 33 weeks ago||Its going to be hard for M hoops to come back||
Rooting against MSU doesn't impact this fact at all. However, I do believe that M and MSU can indeed simultaneously succeed in basketball. Why couldn't they? In the late '70's, both made a final four appearance. And we are talking about teams that add three to four guys per year. You can't actually believe there are only four good players in Michigan in any given year to recruit. Also, Michigan can recruit nationally, and MSU probably still can't.
So, even if you did think that the two teams have not been elite at the same time, it is not because they can't be. Two good coaches in programs dedicated to succeed will succeed. I have no doubt that Michigan can be elite while MSU is also elite.
On the football thing, I think the turning point was the 2006 OSU game. Michigan's reputation suffered independent of OSU's success because we kept drawing USC/Vince Young in bowl games and lost them. Then, 2007 was a disaster early while it seemed that Carr was handing over the reigns during his last season. Its that one season that so strongly impacts peoples' view of the M program. Michigan consistently outrecruited OSU up until that season.
If you were to argue that the decline secretly began when Andy Moeller became the O line coach, I wouldn't argue against you. But I think you can make a stong argument that OSU's championship in '02 actually invigorated the Michigan program, which played in three of the four rose bowls after 2002. Or that it had no real impact.
Anyway, I think its clear that OSU and UM can be simultaneously elite in football. See all of the 70's, the 90's and half of this decade. The current troubles in the football program are Michigan-made and can be handled regardless of the quality of OSU's program.
|6 years 33 weeks ago||That is a bold statement||
The running game is actually the last thing I am concerned about going into this year. If the O-line resembles an average Michigan O-line, not even good, just average, we will run the ball all over many teams. RichRod's running game is dynamic and explosive, historically.
When you think about a freshman QB, WR's who literally could not block for the short passing game last year, losing the DL starters, Obi Ezeh still trying to put it together, frightening shallowness at safety and no placekicker, I can find a lot to be way more concerned about than the running game.
|6 years 33 weeks ago||Ernis is correct||
The root-against-State-because-they-are-our-rival crowd casts Michigan as Little Bro. Think about that, and listen to how much you sound like an MSU football fan. In my opinion, someone who associates himself with Michigan should have no more than a passing concern with MSU. If they are good, it makes us look better for beating them. If they suck, fine.
In reality, MSU can not consistently outperform Michigan in any aspect in which Michigan is actually trying. UM's resources, nation-wide popularity and drive to succeed are woefully unmatched by Sparty.
It is only a matter of time before we have a strong basketball team again, now that the AD is moving forward. When we are strong again, I prefer that the Big Ten has a good reputation, which is built on Big Ten teams making Final Four appearances.
Finally, not enough people seem to realize that rooting for or against a team is completely irrelevant. You hating MSU will not make them lose. At the end of the day, Michigan will simply have to deal with MSU being good at basketball for at least the next five years. So what! The better they are, the better it will make us.
|6 years 33 weeks ago||That was a great read||
That was a great read gsimmons, thanks for taking the time.
|6 years 33 weeks ago||"I got gas in my stomach,"||
"I got gas in my stomach," Weis said Thursday morning, "but I'm not as weak as I was yesterday."
..."You telling us you're going to pass gas?" Powlus asked.
-Another groundbreaking piece from ESPN, hard to believe they are losing their audience.
|6 years 33 weeks ago||According to witnesses, he is tearing it up in practice||
when he is healthy enough to play. So, it sounds like he has all the skills, he just needs to stay healthy or learn to play when he's a little banged up. Easy for me to say.
|6 years 34 weeks ago||Gardner's shirt color will also||
have a lot to do with the durability of our two tiny QB's. I hope he can redshirt though.
|6 years 34 weeks ago||Justin Turner||
I'm interested to see if he really turns out as a corner or a free safety. Either way he is one that could be a superstar sooner than later.
|6 years 34 weeks ago||You, sir, have a gift.||
You, sir, have a gift.
|6 years 34 weeks ago||Yes, yes it is.||
Infinitely more than nothing.
|6 years 34 weeks ago||You have clearly thought about this a lot more than I have.||
|6 years 38 weeks ago||Lions aside, if you argued that taking away one or two of the||
18 Outside/Slot/TE's and adding one or two D-linemen, I would probably agree. Out of those 18, you will have guys like Martell Webb, Je'Ron Stokes or Roy Roundtree whose skills ostensibly overlap two receiver positions. And since D-linemen probably have the most to overcome wrt fatigue, those extra spots should go there.
That would leave Michigan's current position like this:
3 short in the defensive backfield
1-2 short on the d line, and I am already assuming that Ferrara and a current tight end switch over
Just about right at WR this year, but needing to bring in three outside guys and one slot guy in 2010
|6 years 38 weeks ago||And don't forget their starting QB transferring out secretly||
on the morning of the Michigan game in '07, putting JC in the shotgun spread to hilarious effect. Demetrius something. Your friends will probably remember his last name.
|6 years 39 weeks ago||Queens||
Pretty awesome right? I'm glad you showed up. I was about to start having a conversation with myself. This works out while you think you are hanging with Brad Pitt. But when you realize that you are really just two Edward Nortons, the crash is pretty harsh.
|6 years 39 weeks ago||Update!||
You know you are interested, lol.
ESPN's incompetence is a blessing in disguise. I am now listening to 30 Rock while watching the game. Kisses, internet.
Also, we stink in transition.