|3 days 7 hours ago||Imo one year of lost recruiting is meaningless||
if you can get Harbaugh here and establish him as a career coach. I mean, the effect of that one bad class will be 100% gone 5 years from now, while Harbaugh could conceivably be here for 20+ years at his age.
You've gotta be thinking longterm on this. I'd say get ahold of Harbaugh now and offer him the job and promise that nothing will be public until the NFL season is completely over. If he says no, then we'll have to look elsewhere. If it's anything other than a no, then I still say it's worth waiting. A great coach knows how to deal with adversity. Another strikeout and we'll be screwed for yet another decade.
|3 days 7 hours ago||So basically we have to count on the Lions and the Cowboys?||
In order to cut SFs season off at the end of December in time for Jim Harbaugh to get here? Dammit.
|3 days 7 hours ago||Oh no, they can always be worse.||
In fact, if Hoke returns I wouldn't be surprised if they were.
|3 days 7 hours ago||I don't know what the exact rules are||
but it seems to me the game is declared "over" once the playclock runs over the gameclock. Quite often you will see the winning team race out onto the field in celebration, yet I have never seen an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty called in that situation.
As for the complaint about the playclock not starting on time... there's almost always a 2-3 second delay between the time the play is declared dead and the time the playclock starts. Maybe that's not how it's supposed to be, but it happens on virtually every play.
|3 days 7 hours ago||Yeah it's possible||
but after the last 7 years I won't be holding my breath.
Unless we somehow nab Harbaugh. Then I won't be breathing until next August.
|3 days 7 hours ago||Um. Okay.||
Straw man much? Very few people here have criticized Hoke's character. In fact, most are of the opinion that his personal character is perhaps his best attribute.
The fact that a few people may be attacking his character is meaningless. It's the internet, you are going to get a huge range of opinions on pretty much everything.
|3 days 16 hours ago||This list is bull||
most of those teams head of Michigan had decent starts to the season but have recently tanked (Nebraska, ND, VaTech). Michigan has been a disastor the whole way through.
|4 days 18 hours ago||Man you guys are really dogging on Gardner||
Remember when he had the best YPA and QB rating in the B1G? That wasn't that long ago. It's not Gardner's fault he's regressed to this point. It's not the receiver's fault we won't be playing in a bowl. The team has fallen apart due to lack of accountability on sooo many levels. This is just flat out a bad team coached by a bad coach.
|1 week 3 days ago||Feeling bad for someone||
doesn't mean you condone their actions in any way. Or that you feel less sorry for their victims.
There's no shame in feeling bad for the fact that there are millions of young children out there who witnessed domestic violence growing up - or were themselves the victims of abuse - who are now passing that violence on to the next generation. Frank Clark may be one of them. Just because a football player was given lots of opportunities to correct their wrongs at the age of 18 (by the time their personality traits are already formulated) doesn't mean they're playing on the same level as those who grew up in much better living situations.
|1 week 3 days ago||When did feeling bad for someone||
become equivalent to condoning their actions?
|1 week 6 days ago||The truth is||
we haven't even sniffed a Big Ten Title game appearance let alone a conference championship.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Give me a break||
please show me some actual data that shows there is a correlation between socioeconomic status and football success that is independent of fundamental disparities in genetically-based athletic characteristics between different racial groups.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Anyone else think the thread title is a little misleading?||
Makes it seem like he has some special insight on the topic, which after reading the actual comments, does not appear to be the case.
Instead he's just spouting off opinions, which don't seem to be very carefully evaluated. I mean, our problem is recruiting too many "trust fund babies"? Really? Our 2012 and 2013 recruiting classes were ranked #7 and #5, respectively, on Rivals. These players were highly touted coming out of high school. I'm thinking the problem has more to do with what they do once they get here rather than their socioeconomical status (and I highly doubt that matters in any case). Sounds more like Larry is trying to rationalize the scenario in a way that subscribes to his preconceived worldview, rather than critically evaluating the facts.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I'm on the Harbaugh train all the way||
but the text of that petition falls a little short. I mean, aside of the the copious grammatical errors, I thought everyone had agreed by now that the "Michigan Man" term has to go away.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||I didn't even make the comparison really...||
johnthesavage did and I just commented on it. He said he'd take Kelly over Hoke but prefers Harbaugh over both. Reader71 said he hopes that kind of thinking is in the minority amongst Michigan fans... I took that to mean that Reader71 values a coach's demeanor above their W/L record, meaning I have to assume he prefers Hoke over Harbaugh.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||I mean, I want a coach who "does it the right way"||
just as much as the next guy. But then how long do we have to sit here waiting, watching the entire world pass us by?
|2 weeks 3 days ago||You hope that people who want a winner as a HC||
are in the minority? I agree that Brian Kelly is awful (and perhaps deserves to be arrested for the crane in the wind incident) and I wouldn't want him either, but how could you possibly prefer a well-mannered coach who loses (i.e. Hoke) vs. a guy like Jim Harbaugh?
|2 weeks 5 days ago||give me a break||
The coaches are responsible for how the players play. It starts at the top.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||My impression of the scenario||
Brandon = oliphaunt
mgoblog = Theoden
spear-thrower = WD
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah this will not end well||
just like Brady Hoke's tenure at Michigan...
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Hey there. My hotdog vendor happens to be a very reliable source||
thank you very much. FWIW he said Peppers is transferring to MSU and Hoke and Brandon just got 15-year extensions.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Wut||
Like just wut
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Oh c'mon, they won the Rose Bowl||
Oh c'mon, they won the Rose Bowl and beat Urban Meyer in the BTCG. Their success goes beyond Michigan's decline at this point.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||But is his wife house shopping in Ann Arbor?||
But is his wife house shopping in Ann Arbor? That's the real giveaway.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||The fact that Dantonio made that joke about the stake||
The fact that Dantonio made that joke about the stake without even cracking a smile is about as Dantonio as it gets.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||The fact that it is still pissing them off||
The fact that it is still pissing them off seven years down the road continues to amaze me. They won the Rose Bowl and yet they are still fixated on this just as much as when it started. Stabbing a stake in the ground "is a product of their program"? No, no it's not. It's 20 year olds being silly. Was MSU planting their flag at ND back in 2004 or whatever a product of their program?
Everyone associated with the organization at the time the phrase was first uttered is gone. Dantonio is the guy who refuses to speak to his family for 40 years over something no one else even remembers.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||I nearly spit out my drink||
When I read that comment... Hoke has Meyer's number about as much as Carr had Tressels number, which is to say, not at all.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||It really amazes me how we treat these booth people like gods||
They sit up there completely invisible and make decisions in utmost secrecy (we don't even have any idea WHO actually is making these decisions) and we peons just accept it. No explanations necessary. I mean how about some freaking accountability? These guys are fools and completely incompetent. It's not brain surgery - how do you mess up an obvious call like this (or the Rutgers one) unless you're just completely incapable of being a replay official?
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Yes what a special moment for Devin||
getting steamrolled by his in-state rival.That's exactly what I was thinking too. (Not that I blame Devin entirely, he was awful but the whole football organization is just incompetent and terrible)
|4 weeks 5 days ago||catches and drops are just statistics||
So what would we expect
|5 weeks 21 hours ago||I prefer jalapenos||
habaneros are a tad too spicy for my taste
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Still, it's hard to say we didn't have it coming...||
I mean, it's not as if we had been utterly dominant over that 6-win streak. Michigan could have pretty easily been 2-4 instead.
Under the same reasoning, it seems the data we have now indicates at least another 5/6 for Sparty :( except instead of nailbiters, most of them will just be pummelings. Alright time for me to stop wallowing... Maybe we'll at least reverse the downward trend in points this year?
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I never said it surprised me||
and the players themselves will always talk smack. But as fans we skating on thin ice - on the heels of quite a streak of luck that for some reason we thought was utter domination. Only two wins in our stretch of 6 straight could even remotely be called convincing - 2002 and 2006. The 2003 game took a heroic effort from Perry, 2004 was the Braylonfest OT miracle, 2005 was another OT nailbiter, and 2007 required a 10 point comeback in the final 10 minutes.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Carr was a very good coach...||
but Tressel ultimately did him in. At the end of the day though, I'd say his biggest flaw was failing to set up a suitable replacement ahead of time, and not embracing the role of "caretaker of the football program" like Bo did. When Michigan needed a strong leader more than ever Carr was nowhere to be seen.
Also if there is any truth at all to the rumor that he vetoed Les Miles that's just infuriating.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Fairly certain THE_KNOWLEDGE predicted an 11-1 season||
|5 weeks 4 days ago||I don't understand why people don't get this...||
Before the CFP people were saying "Trust us, it'll never get past 4 teams, 4 is really just the perfect number." Well, we haven't even been one year in the new system and there are already people howling that 8 is the perfect number. It'll change, but then everyone will be saying why not 12 teams like the NFL?
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Any chance of 3 SEC teams in the CFP?||
Would probably have to entail a 2 loss team getting in which seems unlikely... but the SEC love is about as high as it can possibly get this season
|5 weeks 4 days ago||What are you talking about?||
Don't you know it's an immutable law of college football that young offensive lines are doomed to be terrible? Apparently you haven't heard SpaceCoyote explain how even if you've got two NFL tackles, as long as your guards are anything below RS Sr. then you cannot possibly have a decent offensive line.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||You haven't forgotten about our beatdown, have you?||
That one wasn't so much fun to watch... Wasn't much better than the ND NCG showing. 31-0 and I think Brian was close to cracking...
|5 weeks 5 days ago||As far as I'm concered||
the banner change is what doomed us. Brian should have never changed it from "Hoke springs eternal" as it was in 2011.
Change the banner and watch us have a miralce turnaround!
|6 weeks 3 hours ago||Let me work through your reasoning here...||
Last year Hoke/Borges sometimes ran a "spread" and sometimes ran "manball". They sucked at manball but got lucky ~25% of the time with the spread (e.g. ND, OSU). This year Hoke/Nuss are sticking with manball and the offense has been atrocious 100% of the time discounting cupcakes and Rutgers (where we lit it up with 158 total rushing yards and 4.5 ypc). You cite ND and Utah as examples of where they outgained their opponent in a loss - this year's version of manball provided a whopping 100 yards/2.9 ypc and 118 yards/3.3 ypc in those games, respectively.This qualifies as a significant improvement in your mind.
|6 weeks 16 hours ago||You're joking, right?||
I guess if you're using the Notre Dame game as your starting point then anything is improvement. But Michigan is currently 67 in offensive FEI, and last year they finished 42... How exactly are they getting better? In yards per play they've jumped from 73 to... 71. So I guess there's that.
Even defense has dropped from 37 to 50 after returning virtually everyone - remember, this was the year almost everyone was saying they would make the jump to become an "elite" unit.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||The talk about factions was and is utter nonsense||
Different people sometimes have different opinions. Go figure!
The "lack of support from the Michigan family" was always nonsense and didn't affect the play on the field. Lloyd telling his players he would sign any transfer papers wasn't abnormal - it's pretty standard procedure, considering Lloyd was essentially breaking his word from when he recruited them.
Still should have given RR one more year.
|7 weeks 22 hours ago||I mean I'd prefer substantiated hope||
instead of random guesses from U-M homers, but I guess at this point I'll take what I can get :/
|7 weeks 1 day ago||on defense yes we believed it||
On offense we were scratching our heads a good deal of the time, and serious doubts were arising as early as UTL1.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||pretty ironic||
Considering this was supposed to be the marquee game of the year. But I guess that's what happens when the team is out of the B1G title hunt in week 3.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||You know it's bad when even THE KNOWLEDGE||
is predicting dark times...
|7 weeks 1 day ago||wish I could believe this||
Maybe I would have last year...
|7 weeks 1 day ago||We're just splitting hairs at this point||
Whether the fans show up and are electric is mostly irrelevant in this context. The players will perform according to how they were prepared by the coaches. They don't "need" the fans to succeed - Utah and Minnesota didn't "need" their fans to come smash our faces in the past two games, and Penn State won't need their fans to come in and run roughshod over us this Saturday.
I mean sure, for bigtime games and bigtime teams, maybe the home crowd can provide a boost, but let's not pretend that applies here. It's the first week of October and Michigan's season is effectively over. The fans are mad and want to make a statement, and there's no reason they shouldn't.
I hate to see the players suffer for it as much as anyone but honestly, I feel far, far sorrier for the fact that they have to play under our clownshow coaching staff than for the possibility that the student section might be a little emptier than usual before the game on Saturday...
|7 weeks 2 days ago||we build a statue of Hoke||
|7 weeks 3 days ago||The players are already being punished||
by being forced to play for a crappy coach
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Wow...||
This is wayyyyy more damning than anything else Brandon has ever done. Brandon gets paid the big bucks to make the big decisions correctly. He failed miserably and it has set Michigan football back another decade (if not more), otherwise we'd already be back to the top.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||How is your bad scenario any different||
Than your "worst case" scenario?? Other than that they don't make a bowl game?
|9 weeks 1 day ago||This is why conference championship games are silly||
and should be done away with... having certain teams play more games than others in any sort of postseason system (including the current one!) is fraught with problems. There are those who will say you shouldn't reward a team for palying fewer games, but on the other hand, why would you reward a conference champion for playing a lousy "best of the worst" from the other division? It's not really fair either way...
|9 weeks 2 days ago||I'll eat 97||
In one sitting
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Definitely real||
Go to either UGo's on campus and you'll see. Maybe tomorrow they'll be giving them out with a bag of Combos?
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Maybe they're trying to be discrete?||
Definitely not a prank though. I just checked the Pierpont UGo's intending to get some but they had given them all away
|9 weeks 2 days ago||If it makes you feel better||
I checked the Pierpont UGo's a little while ago and they had given them all away already. I can confirm it is real though.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||To the AD, that's a sunk cost fallacy||
at this point, what does it matter to them if the season ticket holders paid literally 50x more for their tickets? This is just the law of supply and demand at work.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||That 4th year was the year of the miraculous turnaround||
where the team went on fire in the Big Ten season, finished tied for 3rd (?) I believe, and swept MSU (including the Zack Novak aneurism of leadership game). Funny thing is, as absurd as it sounds in retrospect, Beilein was on the hotseat at the time. Who knows what might have happened had they lost to MSU that year? We'll never know for sure, but the fact is that Beilein somehow found a way to rally the team that year and finish the season blazing hot. And of course made the tourney. Soo yeah, if anything similar in were to happen in football this year, Hoke would remove himself from the hotseat. Only time will tell...
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Ironically all those teams are decent now||
but they were all pretty pathetic in '07. That was Harbaugh's first year at Stanford in which they had like 4 wins, and Duke went 1-11 that year... also UCLA was 6-7
|9 weeks 6 days ago||This can only happen b/c we don't pay the football players||
If anyone is wondering where the money the AD is raking in is actually going, this is the answer.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||38-13 UofM||
|11 weeks 3 days ago||This is great, and totally deserves it's own thread||
Unfortunately, everyone is acting like a bunch of masochists today. Not that I'm surprised by it, but y'all need to lighten up!
Thank you Dear Leader, for holding up your end of the bargain and satisfying the demands of the People!
|11 weeks 4 days ago||But when you're down 31 with 2 minutes to play...||
What's the difference between a FG and a TD in terms of "playing to win"? I mean, you could always kick the FG and then do an onside kick to show that you're not giving up, right?
|11 weeks 4 days ago||I think his point was that Bo was a great football coach.||
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like Hoke is on that level, but time will tell. Bo bounced back from the '84 season (in which U-M suffered its last shutout before this one, a 26-0 loss to Iowa) with arguably his best season ever in '85. Hoke may not have an entire year to work with though. If he loses to MSU, PSU, and OSU I think it's very unlikely he will survive the season, but it's still just a guessing game and there's really no telling what Brandon is thinking right now.
|31 weeks 1 hour ago||Obviously Dr. Evil == App. State||
It's time to strike back, baby
|31 weeks 21 hours ago||I think the point here...||
is that our wins against OSU and MSU came when those teams were in obvious down years, and even then we barely squeaked by in those games despite being the favorite by a wide margin.
|31 weeks 5 days ago||"Opting out" has an effect on pricing||
You don't think that if no one buys tickets they won't lower prices, or at least not raise them at outrageous rates?
|31 weeks 5 days ago||What's your point?||
I'm well aware of that. That's the way it was then. This is the way it is now. It might change soon. It might not. My point is that I don't expect the team to be any better than it is.
|31 weeks 5 days ago||The students were criticized for buying tickets and not going||
The argument being that they were preventing non-students from being able to go to the games. So now the students are not buying tickets anymore and they're still being criticized. If what you really wanted was for all the students to exhibit unbrindled devotion towards the football team, even in the face of high prices and a crap product, your expectations were unrealistic. This is just a fact of life.
EDIT: reveal yourself, random downvoter
|31 weeks 6 days ago||Entitled?||
Honestly, I don't "expect" any better than what we've gotten, unlike many of the other posters here who are still convinced that this is just a temporary down period. Personally, I am quite used to Michigan football being crap. My sports conciousness dates back to the 2001 season. U-M has gone 2-11 in The Game since then. In the five years I've been a student here I've watched Sparty win the Big Ten twice and even win the Rose Bowl. Like MGrowOld, nothing would make me happier than to see U-M go undefeated. Even on the miniscually small chance that did happen though, the legendary games wouldn't be the ones being played at Michigan Stadium. The home slate is crap. The point is, I'm not willing to shell out $300 to watch a likely bad U-M team play a bunch of other bad teams.
|31 weeks 6 days ago||So glad you posted this||
I got this email earlier and find it quite amusing that the AD thinks they can still entice me to buy tickets at this point. I first got here in '09 and am now a grad student, and all of the factors everyone is mentioning went into my decision to not buy season tickets. In '09 a student season ticket was $200. That's a 50% increase in half a decade. Ridiculous. The general admission thing was a complete fiasco and I simply don't trust the AD after all these spontaneous rule changes. And quite frankly the team has been awful the past two years. To think, I consider myself extremely lucky to have seen ONE win over OSU and ONE win over MSU in the time i've been here. The biggest factor though is probably the schedule. The marquee game is PSU? How thrilling. I do love going to the games though, so I would still have gotten tickets if it weren't for the fact that I know I'll be able to pick up a ticket for each game from another student for practically nothing at all.
|32 weeks 2 days ago||Ann Arbor is a college town, Austin is a city||
just saying, it's very hard to compare the two. A lot of times people think of Austin as a college town, but its population is literally over 7x the size of Ann Arbor's.
|32 weeks 3 days ago||Don't wish him luck are you crazy?||
I couldn't care less what he does in the NFL. Would much rather see him go 2-2 against us... sigh...
|32 weeks 3 days ago||This is kind of a spoiler, but yeah that's the theory||
Though in the book it's a hairnet and not a necklace.
|32 weeks 3 days ago||Tywin was absolutely not involved||
He definitely thought Joffrey was an idiot but it's insinuated that Tywin would never have gone so far as to commit kinslaying. I haven't watched the episode yet and don't want to give anything away, but there's a pretty good consensus on all the ASOIAF forums as to who was responsible. There are two people in particular for whom the evidence is almost irrefutable. Tywin, Sansa, and Tyrion are not considered major suspects.
|33 weeks 4 days ago||anyone want to explain again||
how that's such a low percentage shot
|34 weeks 3 days ago||what was with that last 30 seconds||
I will still never understand why you wouldn't foul them there on that last possession and make their 50% free throw shooters make a 1-and-1... even if they do make it, you're down 2 with 20 seconds left and have a chance to win the game on a three
|34 weeks 3 days ago||this game is a fucking self-fulfilling prophecy though||
If you let Randle do w/e the fuck he wants inside and call Morgan for ticky tack bullshit, this is what's going to happen
|36 weeks 3 days ago||Wofford||
|36 weeks 3 days ago||oh snap you are right||
fuck the NCAA
|36 weeks 3 days ago||Two words||
If you've got a dominant player who has the ability to just completely take over games in the tourney, you will be tough to beat. UVA has no one that scares me. Jabari, on the other hand, is terrifying.
|36 weeks 3 days ago||Two words||
If you've got a dominant player who has the ability to just completely take over games in the tourney, you will be tough to beat. UVA has no one that scares me. Jabari, on the other hand, is terrifying.
|36 weeks 3 days ago||Allow me to introduce you||
to Jabari Parker.
|36 weeks 3 days ago||Honestly||
what universe am I living in where Wichita is worse than freaking Villanova? Wichita basically returned everyone from the team last year that was up 10 on Louisville in the second half of their Final Four game. They have not lost a single game the entire season. Meanwhile, 'Nova crapped out of their conference tourney in the first round.
|36 weeks 3 days ago||Jabari Parker? No thx.||
That has nightmare written all over it. Horgan Morfard will get called for ticky tack bullshit fouls like they did today against Payne and Jabari will destroy us in the post. Not to mention they are lead by one of the greatest coaches of all time.
|36 weeks 3 days ago||We got jobbed||
no doubt about it. Assuming we it to the sweet sixteen, we'll have to get past Jabari Parker, and then either Kentucky, Wichita, or Lousville to get to the Final Four. Wow.
So much for the Big Ten Championship game not mattering.
|37 weeks 6 days ago||Wow, that's rough||
If you're at liberty to say... what type of cancer? Just curious...
|38 weeks 6 days ago||When I saw this comment I first thought||
"Wow, I'm going to feel old when people start saying that about 9/11." And then I remembered that the current crop of recruits was 3 or 4 years old in 2001, and in all likelihood they do not vividly remember 9/11.
|40 weeks 2 days ago||Gary Danko on North Pointe and Hyde in SF||
Not. Actually unless you're a wine afficionado you may find Napa boring after a couple hours. There's a lot to do is SF though... Golden Gate Park is a top spot (check out the Japanese Tea Garden or the California Academy of Sciences) and if you're there on a Saturday morning check out the Ferry Plaza Farmer's market. Not much to do in Napa other than taste wine and go on tours... Artesa has some nice views and a decent price.
|40 weeks 2 days ago||Seems they added one student||
This was posted in December...
|41 weeks 3 hours ago||Umm the difference there...||
is that that thread was complaining about a handful of various dings and sprains, while this one is talking about 9 ACL tears in 2 years...
|41 weeks 3 hours ago||Unfortunately that means next to nothing||
You actually don't even need your ACLs to get around in day-to-day life. Your ACLs are required for quick, lateral movements - a common event in the sports world, but not if you're just walking around. Older people with ACL tears quite often don't even get surgery.
|41 weeks 4 hours ago||We need to poach Stanford's conditioning coach...||
I believe there was a thread about this and I don't know if it's already been mentioned here but there was a NYT article about Stanford adopting a conditioning program that focuses on flexibility and balance...
9 ACL tears in basically 2 years is absurd. And anyone who attributes it to just bad luck is deluding themselves.
|41 weeks 1 day ago||I've totally given up||
on trying to understand what constitutes a foul in college bball. Might as well just flip a coin.
|41 weeks 1 day ago||rofl||
Dakich straightup admits his mancrush on Kraft
|41 weeks 2 days ago||So happy they opened a Costco in A2||
I go all the time for the beer even though I don't have a membership. Great place to get La Fin du Monde and Three Philosophers...
|41 weeks 2 days ago||Thanks for the suggestions||
I'll have to look into those in the future...
California beer is great, but I do have a slight preference for stouts, and have yet to find anything better than Expedition or KBS.
|41 weeks 2 days ago||What are your favorites then?||
I was in California this summer, and Russian River and Alesmith are what everyone raved about whenever I asked, but I found Pliny and Speedway to be somewhat overrated. Still very good... but I'm curious to know what you consider the top brews.
|41 weeks 2 days ago||Look on their website for when it's on sale||
You can typically get a few dollars off if you go on the right week... otherwise you will be pay close to full price. But when it's on sale it's a good deal.
|41 weeks 4 days ago||No, I couldn't care less||
However, I am annoyed by the elitist attitude everyone here takes about people being passionate. I read the open thread. It wasn't even bad.
It's like when Brian got dissed on twitter for caring about the football team. There are just people out there who seem to get a rise from pretending to be "above" everybody else.
|41 weeks 4 days ago||First of all, I'm not even the one who's mad||
I'm just calling out the self-righteous elitists who keep acting like they're better than everyone else because they claim to be able to keep a cool head while posting on an internet board about a basketball game. Quite frankly, the people who are being unreasonable here are the ones bitching about other people bitching.
And what is with this cutesy "kids throwing a ball at a basket" crap? Fans are passionate. Fucking welcome to sports.
|41 weeks 5 days ago||"I stopped going to open threads years ago"||
Now, I just go to the threads complaining about the open threads, so that I can complain about people complaining about the team in the open thread.
|41 weeks 5 days ago||The Big Ten Title was always a pipe dream||
They are just crashing back to earth and meeting everyone's original expectations. If they had McGary it'd be a different story.
|41 weeks 5 days ago||No. There are no tie-breakers||
I'm sorry but how do people not know this, considering that's exactly what happened two years ago when we won a share of the championship? Not to mention, that's how it's always been since the beginning of time, and it's also how it was in football until a few years ago.
|41 weeks 5 days ago||Check my post history||
I never even insulted anyone. I am just sick and fucking tired of the self-righteous preachers on this board acting like it's a big deal and totally unreasonable for people to be pissed off that the basketball team had a shit game today.
|41 weeks 5 days ago||Oh my gosh.||
Guys, someone on the internet is mad that their favorite basketball team lost by 18 today. Can you believe that? I never get mad about anything. Good thing I'm here to give them a sanctimonious speech about how awful they are for complaining on an internet board.
|41 weeks 5 days ago||The self-righteousness on this board is unbearable||
The players do not give two fucks if some stupid internet poster says they suck. So why do you get your panties in a bunch over it? This is sports. People are going to get mad when the players for their favorite teams suck. You're the one bitching and moaning about other people bitching and moaning.
I wasn't even bashing anyone until the self-righteous, holier-than-thou preachers came out in full force in respone to a few people complaining about Michigan getting their asses handed to them by a mediocre Iowa team.
|41 weeks 5 days ago||If they play like crap||
the players are going to be bashed. They can deal with it. They are not kindergarteners. Obviously tweeting them or whatever is completely not okay but saying Stauskus and GRIII are sucking, on a random internet open thread, is not as outrageous as you're trying to make it.
|42 weeks 2 days ago||It would be different if he already led that lifestyle||
Clearly there was somewhat of a clash in values between Martin and his teammates. Clashes in values usually stem from a person's upbringing (and please don't play the "well there are exceptions" line... of course there are exceptions, but that's completely irrelevant here) What don't you understand about that?
|42 weeks 2 days ago||Okay well then I'll spell it out for you||
I am 100% serious when I say that the Dolphins' management screwed up and didn't do their homework on this situation. It played out very badly, and it could have been much worse. Clearly, Martin was extremely emotionally unstable by late October - how would you have feel about the situation if he had harmed himself rather than seeking professional help?
|42 weeks 2 days ago||Was he?||
Peer pressure is a powerful thing and things are not always as they seem. Considering Martin felt so distraught by late October that he went so far as to check himself into a mental hospital, I'm guessing his reservations went a bit farther back than you're assuming.
You're just denying the obvious, which is that the Dolphins management didn't do their homework on this. If they had, they wouldn't be down two starting offensive linemen now, would they?
|42 weeks 2 days ago||If you can't see how that is a disgusting lifestyle||
then I have nothing to say to you.
|42 weeks 2 days ago||Are you kidding me?||
The Dolphins are the ones who knowingly drafted a Stanford-educated son of two Harvard graduates who went to private school his whole life, and then sat and watched as a bunch of goons went and tried to suck the guy into a disgusting lifestyle, all in the name of... what? brotherhood and comraderie? This is really more like your boss sending Mother Theresa on a booze cruise with Ozzy Osbourne and then acting surprised when she tries to swim to shore...
|42 weeks 2 days ago||Was it Martin who threw Incognito under the bus though?||
I'm actually not very familiar with how this all played out. Who exactly broke the story? Seems to me like Martin probably would have rather seen the whole incident blow over. Incognito definitely got thrown under the bus, but it's hard for me to feel very sorry for a guy promoting that type of putrid lifestyle.
In the end though, I'd say it's the Dolphin's management who look the worst in all this. They're the ones who brought in an upstanding young Stanford graduate and tried to turn him into a criminal, using Incognito as a Stooge. The whole staff knew exactly what was going on, but seemed to think it would just make Martin somehow "tougher" are promote comraderie.
|42 weeks 3 days ago||Except for the MSU-Notre Dame game||
in which the refs DID have the balls to call PI every time it came up. And yet, when that happens, apparently all you have to do is whine and complain about it and argue that it's IMPOSSIBLE for a team to have 15 PI penalties in one game... and everyone who didn't watch the game will believe you. Even though 14/15 of those penalties were absolutely legit, and you shouldn't get the benefit of the doubt on that last one when you're playing that way.
|42 weeks 3 days ago||When did the number one offense win?||
When did the number one offense win?
|42 weeks 3 days ago||Totally agree||
the whole "Lloyd Carr told players to transfer" crap is way overblown. In the case of Mallet, not only was it completely in his best interest to transfer, but RR even told the guy he didn't want him.
The point is that when coaches recruit players, they imply that they'll actually coach them.
|42 weeks 4 days ago||We just lost all that "house money" we got||
from our wins at Wisconsin and MSU. This was just a terrible loss all around and could cost us in the Big Ten race.
|42 weeks 4 days ago||So someone explain again...||
how Stauskus and GRIII are going to the NBA?
|42 weeks 4 days ago||Completely shut down||
just like against Duke... don't understand how that happens.
|42 weeks 4 days ago||2014 don't fail me now...||
|42 weeks 4 days ago||There is ONE guy we need to stop||
they can't stop ONE guy?
|43 weeks 4 days ago||these refs are just a fucking disgrace||
|43 weeks 4 days ago||These refs are fucking bullshit||
|44 weeks 4 days ago||You just knew this shit was coming||
ya just knew it
|46 weeks 1 day ago||This is just not true||
If Hoke goes12-0 next year he will be immediately deified. At the end of the day, all the fans want is to win football games. We heard this same BS excuses with RR about how some mythical group of alumni had a vendetta against the guy and was trying to sabotage the program for unspecified reasons. It's just not the case.
|46 weeks 2 days ago||Michigan basically has one decade of awfulness||
and counting... things can change more quickly than you think.
|46 weeks 2 days ago||Okay guys don't get carried away||
remember, Jimbo Fisher coached under Saban and modeled this FSU team after the SEC (bonus points if you can explain how you model a team after an entire conference). Ergo, the SEC just won its 9th straight national championship.
|46 weeks 3 days ago||Am I the only one||
who thinks there is at least a hint of sarcasm going on here?
Shows how the thread Nazis on this site will go to great lengths to diss any and every story...
|46 weeks 4 days ago||This is an extremely tenuous argument||
You just cherry-picked a few examples that you think make your point. And it's not clear what you're even defining as early success. You mention both Carr and Hoke - yet their first three years are opposite each other. Carr had two 8-4 seasons then went 12-0, Hoke went 11-2 and then 15-11.
And I can point to plenty of coaches off the top of my head who haven't had early success. Rich Rod obviously, Bret Beliema at Arkansas, Bill Calahan at Nebraska, John L. Smith at both MSU and Arkansas, Mike Shula at Alabama, etc...
If you actually looked at all of the data I'd bet you'd find that new coaches do far worse than their more experienced counterparts on the whole.
|46 weeks 5 days ago||Agreed.||
*sigh*... I'm told there were days when Michigan's OSU schadenfruede came as a result of us beating them. Must have been good times...
|46 weeks 5 days ago||let us all remember this||
as they day Urban forgot about his timeouts!
Or at least the day ESPN forgot to update the "timeouts" graphic at the bottom of the screen. Sad thing is, for as boneheaded as those teams looked at times, they are still light-years ahead of where Michigan is right now.
Whatever, fuck Ohio.
|46 weeks 6 days ago||I think you mean||
|47 weeks 6 hours ago||You have no basis for assuming||
that the players will improve. In 3 years, who really has taken a big step forward? ........... Jake Ryan before his injury? Ummm, I honestly can't think of anyone else who the staff has really developed into an elite player.
|47 weeks 18 hours ago||Once every 26 years? Keep talking||
At 16 years and counting, Michigan is well over halfway there.
|47 weeks 18 hours ago||Fucking nailed it on Borges||
Nobody would pay that incompetent fool over $700k to spearhead one of the worst offenses in the country except for Michigan.
|47 weeks 18 hours ago||According to whom?||
I'm guessing back in 2006 you would belonged to the "Saban is not coming to Alabama" crowd. If Brandon had pitched it right and if he had offered 1.5x what SF was offering, Harbaugh would be coach at Michigan.
|47 weeks 19 hours ago||Nonsense, it could be worse.||
Like if in 2014 MSU plays Notre Dame for the national championship and Arizona plays OSU in the Rose Bowl while Michigan sits at home after going 5-7.
|47 weeks 19 hours ago||He is enormously arrogant||
how can you not see that? Obviously he wants to win - I never said he didn't. The issue is that he suffers from wayyy too much overconfidence with regards to his decision making. Ask any coach or even sports writer and they'll tell you that firing a coach after a meaningless bowl game is insane. But not only does Brandon do that, he then goes out and hires a below .500 MAC coach who knows so little about offense he doesn't wear a headset. Despite the fact that Jim Harbaugh was available.
|47 weeks 19 hours ago||Umm obviously not...||
please read my concluding sentence again.
As for Mike Hart's comment, I'm just saying it's funny to think how giddy almost every Michigan fan was after that comment was made. We were on our way to a 4 loss season that began by losing to Appy State and yet everyone was acting like it was 1997 and Michigan was light-years ahead of Sparty.
It's pretty clear that back in '07 Bill Martin was convinced that Michigan was on a permanant pedestal and didn't bother taking the coaching search seriously. Meanwhile Dave Brandon is the sort of arrogant elitist stiff who epitomizes what MSU fans say Michigan fans are. Hopefully he runs for office or something.
And yet here we are in 2013, and with regards to football, Michigan is now little brother. I wonder how Lloyd Carr feels about all this. He left this program as a house of cards that has no utterly collapsed.
|47 weeks 20 hours ago||Eh, w/e||
they have a great coaching staff and Michigan doesn't. This shit should be expected until that changes. They deserve to be Rose Bowl champions and they are.
Easily MSU's greatest season since '66. You could make a case it's their greatest of all time.
Neg me to Bolivia, but all I can say is fuck Mike Hart. His petty comment has come back to bite and has made the turning of the tide all the more unbearable. Michigan will now be cursed for a hundred years. And nobody outside of the fanbase gives a shit. Bill Martin and Dave Brandon are laughing all the way to the bank as they sit back in their 5 million dollar mansions, and suck every last nickel out of the last wave of a dying legacy.
Call me overdramatic but how long do we have to sit back and watch the coaching staff and the U-M administrators act like Michigan football does not have a problem before anything actually changes?
|47 weeks 20 hours ago||Someone swapped out Stanford's regular playbook with Borges's||
sneaky, sneaky move...
|47 weeks 20 hours ago||Don't understand why more DB coaches don't teach that strategy||
It's missed at least 75% of the time and even if you're caught it's at most a 15 yard penalty which is always going to hurt you less than a completion
|47 weeks 20 hours ago||He already turned UConn down||
like a month ago man
|47 weeks 3 days ago||Who on offense has improved?||
Though everyone is quite understandably freaked out with the defense after the bowl, I think it's safe to say everyone on this board has at least an ounce of hope that the defensive staff knows what it's doing.
But the offense, on the other hand... that's where it gets messy. Has Gardner improved? No, not really. In fact it seemed like he did better at QB when he spent the last 3 months practicting as a WR. He was widly inconsistent this year and suffers from the same mistakes that Denard did. The common denominator there is coaching. Morris? The guy was an extremely highly touted recruit and has played one game... might wanna hold off on that one.
It's pretty clear there has been absolutely zero improvement in the running game so I won't even bother to cover that one.
As for the wide receivers, they've been good... but really, is that on the coaches? Let's go through the rounds... Gallon? The guy is a RR recruit and a spread-offense prototype. How is this supposed to make me feel good about Borges's offense going forward? Funchess? It took our staff a year and a half to realize the guy is a mini-Megatron, and even then, the overwhelming consensus on this board is that the guy has been underutilized.
What about the TEs? Jake Butt had a decent performance against OSU but again, it's very hard to say the guy is an awesome success story based on basically one game. Overall, the TEs were just as bad at blocking as the interior O-line this year.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||Jim Harbaugh signed with the 49ers on Jan. 7||
If Brandon had fired RR after the OSU game like he should have, we would have been in the game for Harbaugh long before SF lured hm in. It's a testament to what an awful salesman Dave Brandon is that he couldn't get Harbaugh to return to his alma mater. Along with how cheap the Michigan AD is that they wouldn't shell out 1.5x whatever SF was offering to pick him up.
As for Miles, no team the guy has coached has been put under sanctions or even on probation. If you are looking for a squeaky clean, well mannered coach who can dominate NCAA football in the modern era and has no skeletons in his closet, you will probably be looking for a very, very, very long time.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||I really don't understand all this bullcrap||
about "derailing" the progress we've made. First off, what progress? We have gotten worse every year since Hoke got here. Second, why is everyone acting like difficult transitions are some immutable law of nature? We had a rough time with RR because of the system, and allegedly we're having a rough time with Hoke because RR didn't recruit O-linemen. This does not mean that a potential new head coach be destined to have trouble. Michigan has had two awful transitions because the administration decided to play fast and loose with their coaching hires.
The sure bet was hiring Les Miles. That's what a top-tier program like Alabama or OSU would have done. But either because Bill Martin is worthless piece of crap or because Carr has some mysterious vendetta against Miles, we whiffed on that one and headed to the slot machines.
Hiring RR in 2007 was a gamble; he was a young coach from a crappy conference operating a system that required a completely different set of personel than we had. On top of that, we balked when it came to paying for the DC he was used to - that more than anything is the reason RR is no longer here.
Then Brandon decided to follow in Martin's footsteps of incompetence and went ahead with the inane decision to fire RR after the freaking bowl game (because seriously that blowout loss to the cowbells told us so much more than our blowout losses to MSU, Iowa, Penn State, Wisconsin, and OSU).
Another elite coach, Harbaugh, was well within our grasp, but we balked yet again for unclear reasons. So Brandon goes out and gets a MAC coach with a below .500 career record with only one season of double-digit wins. A guy who cares so little about offensive strategy that he doesn't see any need to wear a headset, and has bet his entire career on a journeyman OC who can apparently only run a decent offense when his entire backfield is future NFLers. And not only that, but the system the staff wants to run is another complete 180 from RR and requires an entirely different set of personel.
It doesn't need to be this way. But if you hire second-rate coaches there's a chance you'll end up with a second-rate program. Michigan didn't need to play the lotto on their last two picks for HC, but they did anyway.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||I'm not the one trying to compare Hoke and Dantonio||
You're the guy who keeps cherry-picking the example of Dantonio's career at MSU as absolute proof that it takes more than 3 years to become elite.
Nevermind that fact that Saban won the MNC in his 3rd year. And Meyer won it in his 2nd year. And Tressel won it in his 2nd year. And Lloyd of all people won it in his 3rd year.
The point is, all these analogies are ridiculous. It's not the fact that Hoke had an awful year three that really bothers me. It's the fact that the same problems that plagued us are the problems that plauged us in the Iowa and MSU games in 2011. Other than the initial huge uptick in defense and the kicking game in 2011, what year-to-year improvements have we seen? And what intra-season improvements have we seen? Was the team that got blown out by KSU yesterday really any better than the team that almost lost to Akron in week 3?
|47 weeks 3 days ago||Right, so it's really going to be different this time?||
You're saying seriously, this is the year that MSU's defense drops off enough that Michigan has a fighting chance? Like I said, I have been hearing this for the past 5 years now. 2014 hasn't happened yet but for the past 4 years Michigan State's defense has been as good or better than they were the year before.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||#65, #35, #6, #2, #3||
Those are MSU's defensive FEI rankings in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013. That is a trend towards elite-ness. And say what you want, there are absolutely no "direct analogies" in college football. Dantonio had beaten his rival 3 years in a row after 2009. Hoke has been owned by MSU and OSU the past 3 years. We barely squeaked out two home wins against them in years in which those teams went 6-7 (!)
When Michigan goes 6-7 in 2014 I'm guessing you'll be whining that Hoke had a harder schedule than Dantonio in year 4 so it doesn't count. Then in 2015 you'll mumble something about 1st year starters at quarterback. We have been playing this game for 6 years; by now, we should know how it ends.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||They lose 5 starters on defense||
We lose 3. Their staff has shown they can lose players and still be elite, our defense has gotten worse and worse every year. Their defense coordinator eaten Borges's lunch for 3 straight years in RPS
|47 weeks 3 days ago||MSU's defensive FEI ranking since 2010?||
#35, #6, #2, #3. They are not going away.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||I wasn't counting 2009.||
No one thought they'd be good that year. But for 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, and now 2014 (i.e. 5 years), Michigan fans have been talking smack about how we're going to run all over MSU, and yet we're 1-4 against them in that span with our single victory being a fluke home win that took a 4th and 10 miracle 20-yard pass to Dileo and a last second 45 yard field goal. Against a team with one of the worst offenses in the country in a game in which Michigan was a double digit favorite.
Face it, MSU's defense has been utterly dominant for 5 years straight now. When they had a problem on offense in 2012 and had a bad season, they fired their OC and went out and got another guy. They are now in the Rose Bowl. This is an example of a highly competent coaching staff. An example of a highly incompetent coaching staff is one that has severe offensive troubles that lead to a middling 8-5 season, does absolutely nothing to right the ship the next year, and promptly goes 7-6 and gets blown out by a crap Big 12 team.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||So which 11 win season are you leaving out?||
And what part of "#2 in defensive FEI for 2012" don't you understand? If any of their past four seasons was a fluke, it was 2012.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||We have been saying MSU will lose their defense||
for fucking 5 years straight now. MSU has had one bad year in that span: 2012, in which they were still ranked #2 (!) in defensive FEI. If you think MSU's defense is going away because they lose a handful of seniors you are delusional.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||OSU is 12-1 and playing in the Orange Bowl||
They have beaten us 10 of 12 and have gone to 10 BCS bowls since '99.
One fluke home game in which a pathetic Michigan team put up a valiant effort but still lost is not much to base an argument on.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||So you think the ceiling is 11-1?||
And OSU is an "L" but MSU isn't? Never mind that MSU is #4 in the country, just beat OSU and won the Big 10, and really won't be losing a higher proportion of their starters than we will.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||MSU is "probably" a loss?||
You are a sucker if you haven't penciled that "L" in already. Remember the beginning of this year, when everything was laughing about MSU's offense and lauding the fact that we had squeaked out a miracle 12-10 win against them at home in 2012? Remember how certain we were that we'd be the ones competing for a Big Ten championship?
And Hoke has yet to beat a team on the road that finished above .500. As much as I would love to believe that we will be competitive, this coaching staff had doing absolutely nothing in three years to prove that that will happen.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||So when will it be our year?||
When 2014 comes and goes and we're still getting rolled by MSU and OSU, what will the excuse be?
|47 weeks 4 days ago||a tiny part of me will always believe...||
but my rational mind doesn't see the Hoke era ending well.
For all those who are still chanting the usual excuses ("team is young", "interior line has no experience", "we're still transitioning"), I sure hope you're right. But I can't help but think I'm being told to buckle down while the ship is taking on water.
|47 weeks 4 days ago||Bill Martin and Dave Brandon happened||
complete incompetence on our last two coaching hires
|48 weeks 5 days ago||Is there anything to do in Tempe?||
Other than go to the Copper Bowl? I mean at least if the bowl game is in Florida, you've got the ocean...
|49 weeks 14 hours ago||This may be an unpopular opinion here...||
but am I the only one who reeaally wishes Mike Hart had kept his mouth shut in 2007?... Ever since then it's seemed as if Dantonio is on a personal vendetta. He has made it his life's mission to destory Michigan. How many years in a row now have his teams played their best game against the Maize and Blue?
|49 weeks 14 hours ago||Venturing out for what exactly?||
Alternate unis? Dynamic pricing? General admission? Rawk music and in-game ads?
I dearly hope Michigan will always be in the top 5 on this list but you act like it's some law of nature. It's not. Programs can rise but they can also fall. You know who else had a glorious first half of the 20th century? Minnesota. 6 National championships and 16 Big 10 championships by 1941.
Michigan football is what it is today because of one Bo Schembechler. Dave Brandon talks the talk but has not yet walked the walk.
|49 weeks 1 day ago||Saban's "process" also involves winning games||
Saban went 12-2 his second year and then went 14-0 and won the MNC his third year. If he sold his recruits on winning football games he certainly backed it up. Meanwhile, Michigan has gotten worse every year and won only 3 games in a horrible Big Ten in 2013.
|49 weeks 2 days ago||I mean...||
I agree that the 2012-2013 basketball season was awesome, so I think it's more accurate to say that this Fall really sucked. In terms of expectations for the football season vs. what actually happened, I'd say it's worse than '12, '10, and '09 by a longshot. I'd even say it trumps '08 since I fully expected they would not make a bowl that season. And on top of that, we missed out on the greatest upset in the history of Michigan sports by a single play. That game would have been talked about for 100 years.
|49 weeks 2 days ago||this fall cannot end soon enough||
isn't the pendulum supposed to swing our way at some point?
|49 weeks 3 days ago||you win||
|49 weeks 5 days ago||Btw aren't we supposed to get those calls||
at home? I fucking swear the only significant calls we get in our favor are phantom pass interference calls against Notre Dame. Maybe that's why God hates us.
|49 weeks 5 days ago||well you ARE wrong, bc MSU had 2 OOC losses||
And I never said to pencil us in for the NIT. I said that NIT is par for the course. The 10-11 and 11-12 bball teams show that Beilein is capable of rallying his teams to an overachieving run in the Big Ten.
|49 weeks 5 days ago||Maybe not, but||
you're telling me that a team that returns 3 starters from a NCG run, with two of them being guys who returned despite being projected as lottary picks, didn't expect to do better than 6-4 at this point?
|49 weeks 5 days ago||It's not realistic at all...||
Last year's team went undefeated in nonconference play... this one has four losses and counting... Meaning to match what we were last year we would have to do markedly better than 12-6 in Big Ten play. Not gonna happen. A 6-7 seed is attainable with absolutely otherwordly improvement. 8-11 if we play very well in conference and beat MSU/OSU. If they go par from the course they will be NIT bound
|49 weeks 5 days ago||"It's what we were last year"||
So you are expecting that this team, which is now 6-4 without a win over a ranked team, is going to be just as good as last year's team with Burke and Hardaway... okay
|49 weeks 5 days ago||11 or 12?||
If that's what it takes we are on the ropes. Last year's team went 12-6.
|49 weeks 5 days ago||Yes because never before||
in this history of college athletics have fans been upset over an underachieving team snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
|49 weeks 5 days ago||This team is on thin ice||
Going 0.500 in Big Ten play likely does not get us to the Tournament. And the Big Ten is tough. Last year's world beaters went 12-6. We shall see.
|49 weeks 5 days ago||proof that anyone who believes in karma||
is a complete sucker
|49 weeks 5 days ago||here is my snowflake||
fuck sports. fuck refs. fuck 2013
|49 weeks 5 days ago||fuck 2013||
also fuck the phantom call on McGary. Sports refs are the worst. Cushiest job on the face of the planet. Zero accountability for bad calls.
|50 weeks 23 hours ago||I agree||
Almost all the top HCs had to prove themselves at a mid-level school on par with UConn before making it to the top. If he's waiting for a better offer he's looking at an extremely fine window of schools that are better than UConn but still willing to hire a coordinator as HC. For 2013, that window is zero unless Charlie Strong bolts to Texas.
|50 weeks 23 hours ago||Who do you expect to move up?||
Other than the possibility that that same Charlie Strong you mentioned goes to Texas... what mid-level schools better than UConn will be seeing their coaches move up? And isn't the UConn bridge burned now that he turned them down?
Seems more likely he'll be MSU's DC for at least another year.
|50 weeks 1 day ago||woooooooooooooo||
i love the smell of posbang in the mid afternoon
EDIT: 'tis the season
|50 weeks 1 day ago||this is indisputably the highlight of 2013||
may we remember nothing else from this year!
|50 weeks 5 days ago||Wait now, I remember our last Big Ten Championship!||
It's only been...*counts on fingers*... uhh guys, i'm gonna run out of fingers here pretty soon
|50 weeks 5 days ago||Because some people||
can't recognize false hope when they see it...
|50 weeks 5 days ago||You keep bringing this up as if the situations are identical||
If that's the case we should expect to see a Big Ten Championship next year, or at least 11 wins, right? Is that what you're expecting in 2014?
The situations are not the same and it's pointless to compare them.
|50 weeks 5 days ago||Just once I want the look at the MGoBoard and see good news||
Just once! All we get now is bad recruiting news, "what if" games lamenting our hearbreaking losses, and OSU vs. MSU BTCG prediction threads......
|50 weeks 5 days ago||I realize Michigan fans have seen some rough transitions||
what with RR and now 2013 being a de facto "first year" according to Borges, but why is it that so many other programs can pick up a new guy and not skip a beat. OSU picks up Meyer and boom they're 25-0. Wisconsin's entire staff has been turned over and yet their running game is as sound as ever. Nobody is talking about dropping Borges and picking up a spread guy.
Doesn't matter though because there is zero chance that this rumor is true.
|50 weeks 5 days ago||Oh c'mon, Urban Meyer has principles||
Hall will most definitely not appear until the third play.
|50 weeks 5 days ago||but but||
the interior line is young! We just didn't execute properly! It's Rich Rod's fault! We were almost 11-1!
|50 weeks 5 days ago||I'm not as sure about that...||
I realize this is debated all the time, but it's hard to compare the '80s and '90s to the past decade. Winning 11 Big Ten Championships and 3 Rose Bowls in 18 years, including the first National Championship in 49 years, improved the aura surrounding Michigan football dramatically - not to mention the domination of OSU during that span as well.
But then came the turn of the millenium...
OSU has Michigan's daddy basically since 2001, and we haven't won a Big Ten Championship in 9 years. That's pretty much '50s and '60s levels of mediocrity. And in case anyone forgot, Michigan football was nothing in the years before Bo got here.
The AD seems to have forgotten that, or else maybe they believe that somehow it's different this time, and people will continue to flock to Michigan football indefinitely.
|50 weeks 5 days ago||Well not exactly||
I haven't really heard anyone complain about the AD bureaucracy not having enough top level-admins. And it seems to me most of the MGoBlog community would be thrilled if they stopped this crazy marketing campaign where were have to sit through fifteen ads about weddings in the Big House every game. And what's with all of the spending on food, hosting, and special events?
People complained that we didn't bring in top level coordinators for RR. That's about all I heard. And the massive increase in spending is not explained by Mattison's salary.
|50 weeks 5 days ago||Not happening||
A more likely scenario is: Ohio wins BTCG and goes to the national championship to face FSU, while MSU goes to the Rose Bowl to face Stanford. It is then discovered that Jameis Winston is actually Jack the Ripper and the Tallahasee PD has been hiding it for 150 years. OSU stomps Winston-less FSU and wins the MNC. Meanwhile, Sparty obliterates #5 Stanford and wins the Rose Bowl, legitimizing themselves on the national stage.
As Michigan fans, this is our lot in life.
|50 weeks 5 days ago||double post||
first one ever! What should I do with it?
|50 weeks 6 days ago||sounds like a good set of rules||
BBrown has undersevedly had to take a lot of crap, and this will likely stop it.
On a side note i always wondered how that guy got so many mgopoints...
|50 weeks 6 days ago||well, to some extent||
I mean if the US goes 1-1-1 in group play and doesn't advance, people will be complaining about the draw, no doubt. And the complaints will be pretty legitimate.
|50 weeks 6 days ago||He's barely worth 24 million a year as of now||
and yet that's what he's going to be paid at the ripe old age of 40.
|50 weeks 6 days ago||Jokes on you, rest of the world...||
because America still doesn't care about soccer!
Okay maybe some people do. And for them, this admittedly sucks. Though if the US actually made it out of this group it'd be pretty sweet indeed.