i find this extremely interesting
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| 4 years 21 weeks ago | So, where would you rank RR? |
Based on the facts in the article, I find it difficult to move him up past 16. He did less with more than almost everyone on the list. |
| 4 years 21 weeks ago | That may be true |
But the article is full of facts. From those, the writer draws his conclusion. He may be wrong on any of the individual ratings. They are his opinion based on the facts. Should RR be ranked 16th rather than 18th? That is a matter of opinion. But he certainly does not belong in the top 15. Now that's my opinion. |
| 4 years 21 weeks ago | Your response misses the point |
RR in COMPARISON to other 1st year coaches had the worst results. Are you saying Nutt, Johnson or Pelini or any of the others had more overall talent than RR? Johnson instituted a completely new O with less talent and had spectacular results. Not that it matters, but I do not agree that the '08 MSU and PSU teams were the best we have faced in the last few years or whatever "that time period" means. |
| 4 years 21 weeks ago | Mathews is a solid WR |
He will be the go to guy this year. Yes, he is a little bigger Avant and is primarily a possession type. He is the complete package-he has the best hands of all the WRs, he can beat the jam at the line, he runs precise routes, he can make the contested catch against a tough DB, he is fearless over the middle, he is fast enough to get some separation and here he stands alone, he is one hell of a down field blocker which is so important to the running game. Except for Koger, (who had 6 catches in '08) no other receiver was anywhere near as accomplished. Down field blocking is almost a lost cause with this bunch, especially with Odoms who just doesn't ever do it. They run sloppy routes, fail to get separation and led by Odoms dropping passes and fumbling was rampant. We need someone to stretch the field vertically as the WR opposite Mathews. That is not Hemingway who is not overly speedy. Stonum is, but see above deficiencies-he had them all from time to time. In general, fans have this group overrated. Yes the QB/OL situation was a major factor in the demise of the passing game but when these guys had a chance only Mathews was consistantly there. |
| 4 years 21 weeks ago | Under appreciated by UM fans but not NFL |
He will probably be highest UM player drafted this year. Jamison (who I think is also going to Senior B) and TT are the only other players likely to be drafted and they look like mid to low round choices. MT cold go in the 2nd but more likely the 3rd. So much for how talented UM is. UM talent level is down across the board. The '09 and '10 NFL drafts will underscore this fact. Good luck to MT and the rest!! |
| 4 years 21 weeks ago | Threet is ok |
but he really doesn't fit RR's system. He should be better this year with experience, a decent (not great) OL and better WR play. He is working on his mechanics now which were not good. Threet also has a slow release. Tebow improved his mechanics after his first year. It's hard to believe Lefty didn't work with Threet's mechanics. So, there is reason to hope he can be a decent Big 10 QB. But, I expect TF to start sooner rather than later. |
| 4 years 21 weeks ago | The ultimate MEH hire |
Spinners go to work! This guy cannot recruit-this from former Syracuse coach with UM ties. Sure hope he can coach. |
| 4 years 22 weeks ago | As we saw last year RR QBs |
get hurt routinely. What happens if Forcier, as good as he may be, gets dinged? We are right back to '08. Yes ST should be better than last year but that is a very low bar. He is slow, his mechanics belie exposure to Lefty for a year, his release is slooow, he made poor reads (partly because of inexperience and a poor OL, and poor route running by everyone other than Mathews and Koger) but he did not see wide open guys, over/under threw people and generally had bouts of prolonged inaccuracy. This all suggests that Forcier will be the starter sooner than later. |
| 4 years 22 weeks ago | Setting the world record for decommits is not a good sign |
Spin it any way you want, 7 so far with more pending is not some bump in the road. PSU has its next starting QB and PK thanks to RR decommits. It is unlikely that RR will fill all available schollies. The FL QB they may bring in looks like a Coner replacement. He is a major reach. Why is RR having so much trouble getting QBs? This class is smurf heavy. The idea that UM will now have a frosh QB who is a so-so rated (6th best pass/run QB) who was not invited to any all star game as the ONLY option to Threet is just awful. Sheridan may well see significant PT in '09. There are not many players coming to AA before signing day. |
| 4 years 22 weeks ago | Looks like a replacement for the Coner |
This guy is a major reach. RR is having trouble getting QBs. That is very strange. He has lost 2 commits and got a band wagon of no thank yous. What's going on? |
| 4 years 22 weeks ago | You are right |
Bo was a wimp. Not. I am a UM alumni. Hope you get your GED. If I don't gush UM all the time it does not mean I am ND. It means you are an idiot with nothing worth saying. |
| 4 years 22 weeks ago | Nice try, no cigar |
I'm not buying any of these wimpy excuses. Win on the field. The rest is just crybaby stuff. Can you imagine Bo saying any of this mush mouth trash? Never ever. Win or shut up. |
| 4 years 22 weeks ago | UM has already set world record for decommits |
in one recruiting class but will add to that record. Also, lots of smurf slots and smaller RBs. 2 OLmen, need more. Need DTs (after decommits) and CBs. Good but not great class. Campbell and Turner are the stars. Lots of 3 star guys. O$U has a monster class. The best gets better. Nobody jumping at the chance to be DC. |
| 4 years 22 weeks ago | I would rather have TP than any other Big 11 QB |
As a soph, he will most likely be better than then Juice or Clark. Neither has his combination mobility & passing talent. O$U will be a heavy favorite to win the Big 11 in no small part because of TP. They are loaded and have the top frosh class coming in. |
| 4 years 22 weeks ago | I love the Trip Option but I have no idea if |
Mich has the personnel to run it. Only Forcier could be the QB. If Threet ran the play Ds will let him run it and take away the 2 pitch guys. The only slot who played last year was Odoms and he dropped more passes than he caught and fumbled half of those he caught. No other slot has played enough at the college level to know what the talent level is. Koger looked good but had a total of 6 catches and none the last month of the season. |
| 4 years 23 weeks ago | They are reloading |
When this senior class were frosh, guys like you said the same thing. Well, review what happened. They are loaded with young guys who would have started for almost every team in the Big 11 last year and they have the #1 recruiting class coming in. The Vest has already renewed his ownership of UM for 2009 and beyond as far as the eye can see. UM i not even #66. |
| 4 years 23 weeks ago | In heels |
Ginger Rodgers did everything Fred Astaire did but backwards and in heels. |
| 4 years 23 weeks ago | You can never have too many corners |
A CB can move to safety but a almost all pure safties cannot move to corner. One's a hammer the other is a stileto. UM's safety play has been subpar to awful for nearly a decade. With SB being the leading returning safety, this position is incredibly weak. With 7 decommits this year, UM has to have set a new NCAA record for decommits in a single year. Whatever the reasons, it does not look good and you can bet that it is being used to portray UM negatively by our friendly recruiting competitors. |
| 4 years 23 weeks ago | As good a guess as any |
Preseason stuff is just that. Who had Utah #2 last preseason? Who had UM where Sargins last poll put them? UM will not be in "top" 50 preseason. UM will be U'dog in all rivalry games. '09 does not look promising. Frosh QB and another year of SB at FS missing tackles, assigments and getting beat deep by everybody. At least Beanie won't make him burn him for the 4th straight year. |
| 4 years 23 weeks ago | Yes |
Why did you asK/ |
| 4 years 23 weeks ago | The Senior Bowl is where all the NFL Scouts are |
They watch all the practices and then leave before the game. But this is the place theNfl reallly starts to look for those hidden gems. |
| 4 years 24 weeks ago | I may be alone, but I think MD is doing |
a reasonable job of rebuilding a program that has been mostly dormant since Duffy. He may not be all things to all great minds, but he has the program headed in the right direction. He has gotten the most out of several players-like Jones the All Big 10 LB. He is recruiting well if not a Weis level. I think it's best for UM fans to be'um damn humble until we have something to indicate we are not headed toward the abyss that MSU seems to be leaving. UM was beyond anyone's wildest guess of how horrible a transition can be. No one is suggesting that '09 is going to be pretty for UM. Yes, MSU can be laughed at for many reasons, but right now no one is causing its foes more glee than the humbled wolverines of AA. |
| 4 years 24 weeks ago | Right On! |
The Big 11 is very weak. The lack of overall speed continues to plague the conference. The quality of the QBs is way down. The Big 12 has QBs all over the place. The Big 11 has no big deal QB except TP this year and next. Look at Oregon's 3rd stringer who would start everywhere but O$U next year. It will take a few years to get this conference anywhere near the SEC, Big 12 and, yes, the Pac 10. |
| 4 years 24 weeks ago | Brilliant |
I am a UM alum and have my name on plaques in Yost and Schembechler. I have earned the right to be as critical as I want when I want. You on the other hand are an idiot who can't face the fact that UM football is presently in the tank. Being critical of UM does not ipso facto make one an ND fan. |
| 4 years 24 weeks ago | Maybe so |
But are they as good as Toledo? |
| 4 years 24 weeks ago | Defense |
The 2008 D was the worst in UM history. It was at or near the bottom of every D1 D statistical category. That will not be turned around in one year. Not with a new DC and a new system. The best player, BG, is not well suited to a 3-3-5. Will he play LB or DE? The returning LBs are average at best or inexperienced. No big timers here. Ditto the corners. The safety position is a twighlight zone. This D will struggle early. The best hope that by the end of the year they are able to play average D1 D. |
| 4 years 24 weeks ago | I see, if anyone criticizes anything UM they are then |
an ND fan. I am a UM alum and my name is on a plaque in Yost. You will never accomplish either. |
| 4 years 24 weeks ago | You are right |
Why conjure up lame alternative explanations? Accept his word. He also said around the time of his decommitment that he wanted to "play for a championship." Take him at his word. He certainly will not be playing for a championship at UM before his Jr. year and then only for the Big 10, maybe. He has a much better chance of "playing for a championship" elsewhere. |
| 4 years 25 weeks ago | Meaning that UM is worse than Hawai'i |
That sure helps |
| 4 years 25 weeks ago | We lost by 18, forget the excuses |
I don't care about anything but the final score. The rest is for losers. The gap is there, at QB and WR. JC may not be the top '09 college QB but he'll be way ahead of Tate and the ponderous Threet withthe worst mechanics and slowest release in football despite a year under the tuteledge of Lefty the Great. |
