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|16 hours 12 min ago||The basis of this question is||
The basis of this question is that Harbaugh might not take the job out of consideration of his friend Brady Hoke. This is complete BS. It either assumes Harbaugh is not a professional or that Hoke is an immature loser that Harbaugh is afraid of hurting. It insults both men, and completely distorts what might be occurring from any rational perspective.
|1 day 13 hours ago||Just want to say thanks for||
Just want to say thanks for these updates. One day I will thank with $, but until then I'll thank with just letters. I'm not sure what has changed in your writing and reporting over the past couple of years- if anything; perhaps its relative - I dont feel like you are clickbaiting us like everyone else does. I dont feel like you are patronizing us like everyone else does. I feel like you are smarter than all the other guys. Perhaps its all of the above. Whatever the case, I've come to appreciate your work quite a bit lately. Thanks.
|2 days 10 hours ago||"Develop" is the key word.||
"Develop" is the key word. There is a difference between failing to develop and causing steep regression.
|2 days 10 hours ago||People on here thinking DG||
People on here thinking DG was Heisman caliber caused his regression? Ok.
|2 days 11 hours ago||I think Gardner's steep||
I think Gardner's steep regression is one of the greatest mysteries in the storied history of Michigan football.
|2 days 11 hours ago||Regardless of what happens,||
Regardless of what happens, the problems we think will be the problems will probably not be the problems. Remember prior to this season when we thought a seasoned DG would be the least of our worries? If there's one current truth, it's that we dont know future truths until they are past truths.
|4 days 10 hours ago||This thread + the song thread||
This thread + the song thread = a pathetic front for a fanbase. We can do better than this. I hope.
|5 days 3 hours ago||Threads like this are||
Threads like this are Michigan fans at their worst.
|5 days 10 hours ago||I thought Hackett was taking||
I thought Hackett was taking out the garbage? Looks like he forgot a (D)bag. Please clean house. Please.
|6 days 14 hours ago||This is so dumb on so may||
This is so dumb on so may levels. You list 4 items. You do realize that, as the OC, Nuss was responsible for three of them? He determined the system DG was put in. Our receiver talent did not drop off at all. They just weren't trained with fundamentals and just didnt seem to care. And the OL, the buck stops with Nuss. Good coaches coach kids up, They put them in the best position to succeed, and get them to play to their ceiling. Nuss did neither of those.
|1 week 1 day ago||First, you might want to look||
First, you might want to look up the word 'potential.' Second, you might want to actually read a post before commenting on it. Third, its rare for someone to be at the same job for 15 to 20 years, after making it to the highest level? Really? Look up CEO statistics. Most of people at the highest level have been there 15 to 20 years. Look no further than Hackett. Do you know why you hear about a CEO moving from one company another company? Because its not the norm.
|1 week 1 day ago||Wow. You guys are really||
Wow. You guys are actually insulting the poster for saying that the media can force Harbaugh's hand, in a thread about Miles potentially coaching at Michigan?
|1 week 1 day ago||I liked your first paragraph.||
I liked your first paragraph. But your second seems to have a scale issue. You realize this program has been unstable for about 7 years now? How would another coaching transition in 5 to 7 years offer stability? After the past 7 years, Michigan needs a guy who has the potential of being here for 15-20 years. He may not be here that long, but he needs to at least have the potential to offer longer-term stability.
|1 week 1 day ago||So you are criticizing||
So you are criticizing Hackett based on JUB's version of reality. There is a chasm of separation there that you have elided.
|1 week 1 day ago||I think Hoke is a paradox||
I think Hoke is a paradox (much like we all are). He is a "class act" toward his "kids", but he also was a pompous manipulator of the media and the fanbase. He truly cared about his 'kids' and would do anything for them, but at the same time he attempted to use that hyper-caring appraoch to justify his obfuscation of facts, the closed nature of the program, and his attemtp to manipulate the fanbase to ward off criticism.
He was at times successful in making us think that they are in fact 'kids,' when they are in fact young adults who are are in fact given a generous priviledge many people never get - to play for a storied institution and get a free education. In trying to pull the trick of transposing criticism of the program with criticizing the 'kids,' Hoke even went so far as to use expressions such as "real fans" in this manipulative endeavor. And yes, I think he knew what he was doing in terms of making us feel bad about complaining about losses, about the clear downward trajectory of the program, about the seemingly failure to develop the 'kids.'
I respect Hoke for his love of Michigan and his intense caring for his 'kids,' but that's about it. In many other respects, he was a crafty manipulator. But he did it for his 'kids,' so I guess it was ok.
|1 week 2 days ago||Do you really want Harbaugh||
Do you really want Harbaugh here? Stop posting shit like this. You may very well be right. You noticed psychological manifestation. Good for you! I hope you are happy with yourself. But why do you need to bragpost it?
This collective obsession will only work against our goal of getting Harbaugh here. The best thing the fanbase can do right now is let Harbaugh, Hackett, and everyone else do their jobs. And do your own damn jobs. Your actual jobs. Let everyone be professional. Show Harbaugh some respect. Dont work the media into a frenzy. STFD forgodsakes (settle the fuck down).
|1 week 2 days ago||Yes, because somehow||
Yes, because somehow Wikipedia knows before anyone else. Please tell me you didnt really graduate from UM.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Can't they call one later?||
Good question. Can't they call one later? You probably dont call a press conference to announce you are retaining the current coach. You release a statement. You do call a press conference if you are firing the coach. So calling one would basically pre-announce the decision.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||I think you are right. Hoke||
I think you are right. Hoke seemed to have some belief that the job was more than a job, more akin to a calling from a higher power, more of a destiny for him. And his belief was infectious. Until he demonstrated only downward progress. Now the concrete reality has come crashing down in that ultimately, it's a job. And if you dont do your job, you get canned.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||There is no way we are giong||
There is no way we are giong to find out before the team does at 3. Whether this was the plan before the Nebraska fiasco or not, that's going to be how it goes down today. And that's how it should be. We can wait until 4ish.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Not a lot will change. We are||
Not a lot will change. We are here day after day for a reason - we are fanatics. Plus, if Hoke is retained, he will likely make sweeping changes to his coaching staff - probably bring in another running backs coach, OL coach, etc. Maybe even Mattison will retire. There will be sacrifices made in the interest of undergirding renewal. And we will all have a glimmer of hope amidst our depression.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||You are joking, right? There||
You are joking, right? There is a whole ensemble of assistants, not to mention their families, who need to find new jobs and move on with their lives. The longer this plays out, the more likely there's not going to be a transition.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Basing your argument on a||
Basing your argument on a mid-season firing being a prosepctive option is pretty rediculous. No program will do that. It might be an option in response to a horrible start to a season, but it will not be part of a planning process. Pllus, given all the questions about Hoke's tenure at Michigan, if they do retain him this year, they will most likely have to extend his contract. Otherwise, he is one lame ass duck next season, the result of which would be two poor recruiting classes - this year's and next year's. Two shitty recruiting classes, plus a coaching change, can be a hole a program might not climb out of for a long, long time.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Hahaha, touche and good point||
Hahaha, touche and good point on all the empirical evidence of professionalism we can't cite.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Non-issue. The bust will be||
Non-issue. The bust will be in fact be more meaningful if its Brady's last. The professional approach is to do what Hackett already stated and evaluate him after the season. This is now after the season.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||That was funny until the last||
That was funny until the last part. Then you ruined it.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||No shit. That's why I said||
No shit. That's why I said "in and of itself." The text was basically the same. The question now is if there is something in addition, underneath, this tweet that is different. But the fact that he tweeted that tweet, given that he tweeted the same thing last year, is meaningless without more context on his part.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||He tweeted the same thing||
He tweeted the same thing last year. This tweet in and of itself means nothing.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Ease your scowled face. I'm||
Ease your scowled face. I'm not trying to start a RR reactionary debate, nor will I engage in one. I assume that the reason RR was not successful at UM was both internal and external. I also assume he learned something from the situation about transitioning from one D1 program to another. I am not sure, however, that UM learned something.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Time for the application of||
Time for the application of the RR framework:
1. Will Pelini learn from his experience and make himself a better coach?
2. If so, how long will it take? A year or so to reflect, meditate, and learn, like RR? Shorter? Longer?
If Pelini takes the RR approach, someone will hire a very good coach at some point. Its just a question of if and when Pelini will grow like RR did. Pelini seems like a hard-headed guy, so who knows.