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|6 days 12 hours ago||What I find interesting...||
is how different the relationship is between fans and their respective "favorite" school, team, etc. I do mean interesting too, I'm not judging here.
I have a friend who literally changes his favorite team every year or two in just about every sport. For me that seems crazy because I have loved the same teams since the time I was old enough to watch sports.
Through good and bad I have always loved: Michigan, the Blue Jays, Montreal Canadiens, Manchester United, Toronto Raptors (since they've been around) and Patriots. There have been some successful years in there but by and large I suffer through disappointment on a regular basis yet still cheer for my teams.
When I found this blog it didn't take long to forget that most people aren't so invested in their sports fandom. By visiting here you would think everyone lives and dies with their respective favorite teams and we forget that in many cases that just isn't true.
For me it wouldn't matter how poorly my team was playing, if I had an opportunity to play for that team I wouldn't pass it up for anything and I believe many posters here would be in the same boat. We forget though, that many fans just aren't as fanatical as we are.
It's for this reason that when I hear various recruits say UM has always been their favorite team I've stopped believing that means anything. I've stopped trying to read into what it is they say because everyone is so different where being a fan is concerned.
Again, I'm not judging KLS or DH or anyone else, I just don't put much stock into the fact that a person cheered for a certain school growing up. They could be the type of fan my friend is, the type I am or anywhere in between and you just never know how fanatical they really are.
This is in no way intended to be negative toward anyone, it's just an observation on my part.
|6 days 14 hours ago||I can't really argue...||
In my opinion the two of them are so close that you really could easily make a case for either to be considered the best in the world. They are both amazing to watch and any manager would kill to have them on their squad. When two players are as good as these two are it's natural for two people to watch them play and come out with differing opinions as to who is the better player.
|1 week 8 hours ago||Unfortunately ....||
They're pretty adept at developing talen at OSU, especially along the D-line and LB. I agree totally with what you're implying, it just doesn't make me feel better given what we have seen from our respective schools over the past few years.
|1 week 9 hours ago||People will believe what they want to believe...||
Like everyone else on this blog I wish GRIII the best, but unlike many, my love of all things UM doesn't blind me to reality. You look back on the comments and Matt has a slew of +'s because he is saying what everyone is hoping for, but none of it is based on reality.
If people are bad enough in math to think that passing on $800,000.00 (that actually requires you to get signed and make the NBA team) that likely will increase to $900,000.00 over the course of 3 years (over which time you can be cut at any time) and raising your draft stock to becoming a lottery pick the subsequent year where your contract is guaranteed is a bad idea I don't think any amount of facts will change their minds.
I understand the idea that him slipping to the second round isn't the end of all things good jbut he's trying to pass it off as being a positive....How do you even reason with that? At least as a first rounder your first contract is guaranteed so you will get that money. Nothing about the second round is good and I bet if you asked GRIII he'd be pretty disappointed at how things played out.
|1 week 9 hours ago||You misunderstand me...||
I'm not stating whether GRIII is going to be successful or not, my point was only that your list wasn't portraying what you wanted it to. I agree with essentially everything you are trying to say, I just don't think the list is helping your case.
|1 week 13 hours ago||Do you ever research before you post?||
Let me help...click the link.
Do you see what a lottery pick makes in relation to the last pick in the 1st round, never mind halfway through the 2nd round? Let me do a little math for you. Now in doing this we will assume the players are signing for 100 % of the scale salary, not the 80-120% that is actually possible.
For a top ten pick there is the potential for them to make anywhere from $6,264,300.00 to $14,396,600.00 over the first 3 years of their contract depending on where you were picked. Let's look at number 30 (which is 10 spots better than GR3 got picked): $2,857,200.00 over 3 years.
So that all important "one year quicker to free agency" your talking about has cost the 30th pick anywhere from $3,407,100.00 to $11,539,400.00. Again, this is the 30th pick, not the 40th.
So, lets say Robinson got picked 30th (which we know he didn't), He lost $911,400.00 by coming back to Uni one more year. Had he improved to the point where he gets in the lottery he makes more than double that in his first year no matter which pick he is selected within the top ten. When you factor in how much more he is making in each subsequent year of his contract your point becomes laughable.
Listen, there's no sure things so even if he comes back it's a gamble and I think most people recognize that. But you're asserting that even if he did come back and end up making it into the lottery that he would still be worse off over time. That is complete lunacy.
|1 week 13 hours ago||I agree with you in principle...||
but that list doesn't really help your cause a ton. I mean, you list guys whose NBA careers ended more than 4o years ago which implies (though I'm sure unintentionally) that this list is ALL of the people who made that kind of impact from the 1960 through 2014. So when you look back in history 60 years and come up with 26 names that shows this is being a very big exception and not even remotely close to the rule.
Again, I agree that being a second rounder isn't a death sentence by any means, but this list is probably a better example of why he should have stayed rather than entered the draft.
|1 week 13 hours ago||I learned a long time ago...||
to never put much stock in anything Matt says. He has shown a tendency to post as if he is sharing facts when in reality it is only ever his opinion. It's also not much point debating things with him, just FYI.
This isn't meant to be offensive Matt, as you and I have never had any disagreements that I remember, but I have witnessed many you've been involved in, so this isn't surprising to me.
|1 week 14 hours ago||Personally...||
I don't find the irreverence of a players size very relevant in this situation.
|1 week 14 hours ago||Hands down..||
That was one of the best goal keeper performances of this world cup. Singlehandedly kept the USA in that game. As a Man U fan I used to watch Howard when he played second fiddle there and never really thought much of him. Leaving Man U was the best thing that could have happened to him as he has steadily improved and now finds himself in the upper teir of goalkeepers in world football. I'm glad for him overall but sad things didn't work out better in this WC. He deserved a better fate.
|1 week 14 hours ago||Both great players, no doubt...||
and in my opinion the two best players in the world by a fairly wide margin, but CR is the better of the two in my books. If you are looking at it from a purely statistical perspective Messi may be better (I don't know because I haven't bother to do that and I don't believe everything I read just because it's a published article) but when I watch the two fo them play I find CR far more fun to watch.
I can't say there is much difference when you look at how well they move without the ball, how well they set up their own shot, how well they finish when given the chance, how well they take free kicks etc. Where I find the difference is when the ball is at their feet and they are runnnig at defenders and how well they are with the ball in the air. That's where I find CR is slightly better than Messi.
Again, I think one can easily make a case for either one to be considered the best in the world but people would be wise to completely ignore any statement that starts off by saying "Messi is better than CR and it isn't even close" or vice versa because those people clearly don't know anything about soccer. Both are great players and this will be debated for a long time to come.
|1 week 2 days ago||Seriously?||
Dude, everyone stops growing at different ages. When I was in grade 7 I was the tallest kid in class at 5'10" when I was 12. You know how tall I am now? 6'. I hit that height at 14 and didn't grow an inch since. Some people will grow until they're 20 other stop at 15, you just never know.
|1 week 2 days ago||I get what you're saying...||
but disagree with a couple of your points. In the grand scheme of things an inch is probably not going to make a huge difference, you're right about that. Where I disagree is your assertion that the numbers don't mean anything in terms of how much people can lift.
One of the best indicators of strength that we have is how much a person can lift, squat, curl etc. If a guy is 6'3" and 215 lbs but can only bench 120 lbs 5 times I think you would be justified in questioning his strength. Clearly it isn't the be all and end all as far as evaluation is concerned, but impying that it doesn't mean anything is just plain wrong.
|1 week 5 days ago||If only...||
If only I were there I'd love to play a round at UMGC but alas I'm here on the east coast of Canada. Good luck getting a group together and I hope whoever goes has a great time (and of course scores well too). Have fun!
|1 week 6 days ago||Isn't that the truth...||
There's something special about players putting money aside and competing for national pride. I would rather watch international play that any professional league going.
|1 week 6 days ago||I'm not trying to be contrary...||
but do you know that they did? I'm genuinely asking because I have no idea if they did anything. To further the point either they didn't do everything they could (as evidenced by this latest incident) or LS is beyond help....I don't know which it is but those seem like the only two options.
|1 week 6 days ago||You're right....||
I did take on a condescending tone in my posts and I apologize for that. I should be able to discuss differing opinions in a respectful and cordial way. I'm not sure why this topic has me so fired up but somehow anytime the topic of discussion is L. Suarez I go a little off the deep end.
Seriously, I didn't mean to be offensive and I apologize for my tone. Whether I agree or disagree with you I should still be respectful in our interaction. +1 to make up for me being an ass.
|1 week 6 days ago||I'm not sure either...||
but it's Liverpool FC that he is under contract with and it was Liverpool FC who he was playing for when the SECOND biting infraction occurred. He was also playing for Liverpool when he proved what a racist dingbat he was.
In short, the fact that he still hasn't received the help he needs to get over his porpensity for biting probably lies more with the team for which he is under contract than a team he plays with a couple of times per year. In truth, the blame should be entirely his own but there will always be the question as to what Liverpool did to keep this from happeneing after he committed his second offense.
This is just a bizarre situation and I'm not sure anything to do with it could possibly be straight forward or make much sense.
|1 week 6 days ago||You keep banging this drum....||
This isn't setting any precedent for anyone other than Luis Suarez. No other footballer (in any professional high profile league) has ever been in trouble for biting people. I highly doubt any club with normal, psychologically sound players have any fear of this impacting them in any way, because none of them employ animals (other than Liverpool evidently).
You keep going on about headbutts and other "normal" yet violent infractions that often occur during the course of the game, but those have been happening for years without FIFA imposing a ban that carries over to club football. The precedent has been set for those types of infractions and they don't effect club play. This is a unique situation that needed a unique approach where punishment is concerned. I think the high profile football clubs around the world are smart enough to see that.
|1 week 6 days ago||What would stop them?||
What could possibly stop them? If they want to punish Suarez I would think they have the ability to do so.
The only debate would be that he wasn't playing for the club at the time, but when you sign a contract for a team you are (at least in the cases I have seen with hockey players) considered a representative of that club whether you're in season playing for that team or in the off-season on your own time. If you're under contract your actions (no matter where they occur) are a reflection on the club and therefore you can be held accountable for them (by the club). Again, I don't know anyone playing in the EPL but guys I know playing in the NHL all say the same thing where their contracts are concerned. I would think it would be similar across professional sports.
|1 week 6 days ago||Honestly....||
I look at this and just have to shake my head. In a similar situation I can't imagine normal well adjusted humans ever getting to this point. I mean, I can think of about a hundred things I would do in this situation before biting another person would ever cross my mind.
You might be able to make up some to form some ridiculous excuse that people may buy if you did this once. Twice and you can see the person has no concept of human behavior. This clown did it three times, and biting isn't his only issue. He's been in trouble for for hurling racial insults at other players too. This guy should just be gone (it won't happen, but he should be).
|1 week 6 days ago||Was it?||
It's been too long...lol
|1 week 6 days ago||I'm gonna be upfront....||
I am the one who negged every one of your posts in this particular line. I don't know if you just have your head so far up your rearend that you can't read his posts or you're be blatantly obtuse, but your assertion that he keeps bringing up bans that have nothing to do with the conversation is ridiculous. You (or maybe someone else) stated that there is no precedent for FIFA bans to extend to domestic leagues and ALL his example show otherwise.
His intent wasn't to say "Here, look at the examples because they are just like what Suarez did." You're the one that is drawing that comparison, not him and why you keep doing it is beyond me. He's explained from his first post to his last that wasn't what he was saying, but you're so fixated on trying to make yourself believe that your precious Luis will be back playing for Liverpool at the start of the season that you're ignoring what is actually being said.
I also find your assertion that a professional sports league would get up in arms because an international organization suspended an idiot player while on internation assignment for doing something as insane as biting another player. If clubs are worried that even some of their players could fall victim to a suspension for biting other players 3 times than there is much bigger issues at that club and they need to examine their own practices, not FIFA's. If you're silly enough to believe that clubs like this don't take virtually every known risk related to their players out of the equation I don't know what to say to you. These teams are insured to the teeth so that when players are injured, suspended or otherwise miss a certain amount of games they aren't on the hook for paying them. Also, if FIFA were to impose a ban with the hope that it would have any impact it would be a suspension without pay so the club wouldn't suffer from a monetray perspective anyway.
In short I agree with the other guy (if you couldn't tell already) who isn't saying Suarez should have a lifetime ban. His point is there is precedent for FIFA to hand out a suspension that would carry over to club football and that should most definitely be what happens here.
|2 weeks 8 hours ago||You forgot....||
|2 weeks 8 hours ago||?||
Is there a question in there?
|2 weeks 13 hours ago||It wouldn't destroy international football....||
It would make clubs be more accountable. First off there is generally stipulations in your contract that cover international duty (This is the case in hockey anyway and I assume in other professional sports it's the same). Clubs also purchase insurance on player contracts so that if the player is injured for a certain amount of time or suspended for certain things they aren't out of pocket.
Over the years professional organizations have found ways to all but completely eliminate the risk associated with their players taking part in internationl competitions. Even if they didn't, don't you think the more dangerous precedent for FIFA to set is one where they don't care about player safety?
|2 weeks 14 hours ago||So...||
Who cares if it affects Liverpool? Seriously? Clubs take on risk when they sign players. They could get innjured on or off the pitch, they could get suspended for actions related or unrelated to football. That's just the risks clubs take when they sign people. Given his history there's probably something in that contract about not paying him if he is suspended again for actions he has already committed two times previously.
This yoyo obvioulsy hasn't learned his lesson from the previous two suspension so something much more harsh is warranted. Not only that, he has shown biting isn't his only issue, he's a complete racist tool who has no control over his mouth whether it's being used for speaking or chewing.
I don't think he should have a lifetime ban but if this ban only applies to international duty than he won't even get a monetary penalty for it. Whatever he gets should apply to both international and club play.
|2 weeks 14 hours ago||Come on....||
I'm not in the camp of the people calling for a lifetime ban on the guy, but there is clearly a pattern of behaviour that has surfaced here when it comes to Suarez. The guy is a complete sack of crap. He's a confirmed racist who goes around biting people when he gets pissed off because he isn't man enough to handle things like an adult. I'm not for a lifetime ban, but I can't think of a better term for a creature that goes around biting other human beings than animal. Humans that are in their right mind understand how completely ridiculous that is.
Also, mildly stupid and biting someone aren't really in the same category in my opinion. Mildly stupid would be stepping on someone accidently on purpose when they're on the ground in soccer, not biting them. Also, as said above this isn't the first time he did this exact thing. Forget your Suarez love for a minute and look at this in an unbiased way and you would agree that you are seriously underselling the gravity of what he did when all factors are considered.
Should he have a lifetime ban? No. Is it fair for people to be outraged that for a third time this racist joker has biten an opponent? Absolutely.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||You can't honestly believe that...||
You really think that if the internet didn't exist people wouldn't care? If what you really mean is most people wouldn't know and thus couldn't have an opinion one or the other than I could buy that, but if what you're saying is if the internet didn't exist and people were still aware of DB and all his hairbrained schemes nobody would care because they couldn't post their opinion on the internet, I have to disagree.
My opinion of DB has absolutely nothing to do with what others feel about him. I have no issue with standing alone in my beliefs or ebing in the minority (as many will atest to on this blog having seen me stand up for my unpopular religion.). I don't like Db for who he is, what he represents and what he has done to the University of Michigan.
I (nor anyone else here) don't need approval from Brian (or anyone else) to feel the way I do. I figured out all by myself, without the help of the internet, that DB was more like a slimely used car salesman than an AD fit to carrying UM into the 21st century.
Now I don't have any issue with people disagreeing with the way I feel about DB, everyone has their own opinion. I just find it hard to believe that anyone would think that without the internet no one would care about what DB is doing. It kind of implies that we need to be told what to be angry about and are incapable of independent thought.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Always nice to see...||
Always nice to see some of my countrymen in professional sports. Now I would just like to see some of them turn into prominent players, which is rare. Steve Nash has been the best in a long time and hopefully Stauskas can even top his career (I'm hoping, not expecting in this case).