the just released schedules were a flat-out statement that the B10 doesn't believe SOS will matter in playoff selection
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| 5 weeks 5 days ago | Heading |
makes more sense if you read "Kill" as a noun. |
| 6 weeks 6 days ago | That's how I first read it. |
Which made me wonder if the "We on" version was a reference to an incendiary airline accident. I still don't know what the jet silhouette signifies, unless the complete thought is not parallel to the "We been on fire" construction, and reads something like "We on aerial transportation." |
| 6 weeks 6 days ago | I did. |
I play one myself, and as an admirer of the instrument, I have to correct spelling -- "'Cello," or "Cello,"
is an abbreviation for the Italian "Violoncello," itself a diminutive of "Violone," augmentative of "Viola." In Vogrich's case, I had the idea it was more the size of a contrabass. |
| 11 weeks 5 days ago | Statistically speaking |
I am wondering if you are differentiating expectations based on a run-based offense v. a pass-first offense. I imagine that there were teams in that stretch with below-average passing and running stats; the improvement in overall winning average for teams with strong running games might be accounted for merely by excluding teams that stink at everything. Or in other words, I wonder if a look at strong passing teams would show a similar tendency toward above-average winning percentages? If you are not trying to make a point that the running game is more predictive of winning than is the passing game, then I misunderstood you. |
| 19 weeks 1 day ago | When |
did UM go Nike? This would still leave us with the '70's and most of the 80's. It's sort of sad that, in order to save money, we've lost control of our own uniforms. |
| 19 weeks 1 day ago | Voice in the wilderness? |
from the above:
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| 21 weeks 3 days ago | I used to care about the tradition. |
And maybe it's because it was a part of the Michigan sporting culture; particularly, although I didn't know it at the time, Bo's turning down Texas AM to stay with a smaller salary at UM, and later, as AD, sending Billy Frieder packing prior to the BB championship after he signed a contract at ASU. I probably naively believed that winning came from resisting the temptations of greed and money, and it seemed that way after Fisher went on to win the championship. Someone posted that Bo wanted to ditch the helmet design when he first got to UM; I didn't know about that at the time either. Carr appeared to continue the tradition of winning without giving in to the pressures of big-money college sports, although, in retrospect, the MNC in '97 and the seeming near-miss in '06 draw attention away from a sort of meh-ish 8-4 to 9-3 average overall, perhaps the price of resisting the pressure of big money. Perhaps the NCAA game has given in to money in a way different from the big-money days of the '20'-60's. Perhaps TV has driven CFB away from the community-rich seeming democracy of a fans-in-attendance-driven sport to a TV-contract-advertising-revenue-driven sport, with the transition accelerating during the BCS years. The economic pressures drove cream-puff scheduling that produced 8-home-games-a-year, more fan revenue and shittier matchups. Through all this, the new CFB economic system has forced ADs to compete to pay higher coaching salaries (look what happened going from Gerg to Mattison). Increasingly, the ditching of old niceties makes the unpaid status of athletes in revenue sports harder to look at as the role of money in determining the substance of the sport increases. I can't predict the future. The viewership debacle for last year's MNC game gave me hope that the corporate side of CFB had at last gutted the goose with the golden eggs enough to maybe push the balance of power back to a more fan-oriented economic model, and that the pressure to abandon historic traditions and to conform to the featureless and faceless marketing of CFB without a sense of place or history would abate, but, as the latest clown uni business here shows us, we are not there yet. Whatever happens, I think that it is natural that, as the thing I followed these past years changes to look less like what I know, that I will lose my emotional attachment to it. It is like going back to your old hometown -- the more it resembles the way you remember it, the more at home you feel, and the more it changes, the less it matters to you that you once belonged there. I don't use tradition against other fans, I don't think. In fact, the more OSU fusses with their unis, the less that feels like The Game as I have known it since we got beat up in 1968 (I think that is the year that Woody settled on the uni that generations of M fans have grown to dread until the clowniform business got to them a few years back). Whether its ours or theirs, I am more likely to remember the black depressions that came from losing during my early teen years (unfortunately, there weren't that many big-game wins; just astronomic winning percentages capped by disappointment most years) if the unis remain reminiscent of those years. My life hinges less on these outcomes now; if modern corporate marketing tries to create a new brand identification with me now, there is a long way to go to match the passion I developed for the "tradition" over the years. This is doubly so if the new "brand" is a knock-off of the marketing precepts being used in every other geographic niche of the country. Maybe changes in the sport will make it safe to cling to tradition before the economoic pressures of the last few decades have destroyed them all. What Michigan football's trappings and traditions will look like then, I don't know, nor do I know how I will react to it or how much attachment I will feel to it. |
| 27 weeks 6 days ago | "So, for the first time, |
both teams enter the game unbeaten and untied, 10-0." I believe both were undefeated and untied at the time of the 1970 game as well, although that year Michigan played a 10-game season and OSU played a 9-game season. |
| 30 weeks 8 hours ago | I was wondering the same thing. |
I can only imagine some of this info being in old newspaper articles. There must be some other form of primary documentation to which OP is privy. RE Lantry, I can only think "1974," as well as the then-President having to take his side when questions about that failed (?) 18-yarder came up at press conferences. |
| 30 weeks 9 hours ago | I think |
it's more a matter of fitting his message to earthly beings bound by the limits of materialism. |
| 30 weeks 9 hours ago | "Brutal," |
but it DID get there. I was pleased by the time we left on the clock for Sparty to work with. |
| 30 weeks 9 hours ago | That's what I was thinking. |
I missed the first half because, for some reason, I couldn't find a sports bar with this game (in Atlanta, GA) and I only found one in time for the second half. When I saw the 6-0 score and the stat line of one interception, I thought, "thank god this isn't ND all over again." Conservative, boring, ineffective, maybe. But I'll take all of those over 6 turnovers. |
| 30 weeks 10 hours ago | Certainly, |
after three consecutive years of subsequent UM-OSU games in the last regular-season game and in the conference championship, the divisions will be correctly re-aligned. It's true: sometimes I lie to myself to make myself feel better. |
| 30 weeks 10 hours ago | I think |
the title of that article should be "Does . . . ?" and not "Can . . . ?"; but, to be fair, I only had one quarter of statistics a quarter-century ago. |
| 30 weeks 10 hours ago | Title should be |
"Gripes ABOUT Borges." Some folks will click through thinking Borges was griping about something. This way it is more hits, but you don't want to get them this way. |
| 30 weeks 10 hours ago | Just in case people are looking up old scores, |
Michigan's 9-3 "Snow Bowl" victory over OSU in 1950 consisted of a TD w/ 1-point conversion and a safety. |
| 30 weeks 10 hours ago | Thanks. |
I saw them, but I thought they were just images there to explain the vote totals. |
| 30 weeks 11 hours ago | It has been noted here in thin times |
and thick times: winning makes all vexing annoyances go away. |
| 30 weeks 11 hours ago | To be fair, |
the commenter's first name is "Velikovsky"; we should be encouraging him to try out his English and offering correction in a friendly way. Also, if the rest of his name is literally descriptive, he's of the canine persuasion, and we need to make allowances for the problems of typing without opposable thumbs. |
| 30 weeks 11 hours ago | I don't know |
how to figure this out; can anyone tell me how to vote on a forum topic OP? |
| 30 weeks 11 hours ago | They seem |
pretty happy with Kenny Guiton's performance as back-up. Apropos which, where have we heard this before?:
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| 30 weeks 11 hours ago | Here's what the OSU OP says: |
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| 30 weeks 11 hours ago | In addition to the above, |
this is a mirror of Michigan's excruciating OSU loss in 1974. |
| 32 weeks 9 hours ago | Bump Elliott |
had to warn Bo off when Bo told him "the first thing I'm going to do is get rid of those silly helmets." Thank god for supportive former coaches in those days. There were no wings during Yost's coaching career, although he was AD through the first three years of the Crisler (and hence, wings) era. |
| 36 weeks 4 days ago | more |
bubble screens. |
| 36 weeks 4 days ago | I don't think |
the '68 OSU team was as well-put-together as the '69 team, which makes the upset all the more surprising. '68 OSU had several key games by which they slithered to the MNC; '69 OSU was never in a close game until they lost to UM. So I would put the '69 team over the '68 team. It just so happens that Bo was able to get ready for them with mostly Bump's team while staying under the radar; I think Woody overlooked us. |
| 37 weeks 2 days ago | Carr |
was trying to get out the door since before '06. Nothing cost him his job; he was done as soon as he could find a way out. |
| 38 weeks 1 day ago | I read |
this double negative a couple of times:
before deciding it doesn't mean what it's intended to mean, although it has a "You can't put too much water in a nuclear reactor" kind of pliability about it. |
| 38 weeks 1 day ago | I think |
it's about the same for the Big Ten, although UM's is better than the conference as a whole, similar to its record against the SEC. |
| 38 weeks 6 days ago | This should be |
a link. I don't see anything in there about "Beilen's take." Is the OP mis-leadingly titled, or did I miss something? |


