|1 day 12 hours ago||"there are actually these things called fans!"||
; exclamation point!; followed by
Passive-aggressive, and a retread of the old schtick.
Certainly, this IS David Brandon!
|1 day 12 hours ago||There's a demand curve||
thing happening with the student ticket prices.
Increased prices, along with the other factors discussed here ad nauseum, had driven down demand so much that they were actually causing a net loss of revenue. DB lowered the prices to a level where increased sales would make the decrease revenue-neutral.
What remains to be seen, for student tickets and all the rest, is when the AD prices, lowered, same or raised, actually come in to line with the market prices available via alternative vendors.
|1 day 12 hours ago||A stopped clock||
is right twice a day.
|1 day 12 hours ago||"People bitched about Brandon because Hoke didn't win . . ."||
and 300,000 people who populated M's season-ticket wait list through and after 3-9 evaporated four years into the Brandon regime.
DB's job is to keep or hire a competent FB coach and to keep the fans who pay for the AD budget from bailing, and then there's "the rest."
He failed dismally in both of the most important aspects of his job. He killed, and was continuing to kill, M football.
There is no "the rest."
|1 day 12 hours ago||"You don't get hand-holding at this level."||
Michigan's experience suggests that everyone does much better when the former coach newly appointed as an associate AD, for whatever reason, goes out of his way to help the new coach find his way around, such as when Elliot quietly intervened before Bo had a chance to carry out his threat to "get rid of those silly helmets." I don't know what Canham's role in this was.
When the outgoing head coach newly appointed as an associate AD decides, for whatever reason, to take a different tack, then the program can easily end up getting nuked for the next 7 years.
Call this "handholding" if you want, but I like it better Elliot's and Canham's way.
|3 days 9 hours ago||"Just annoyed"||
and yet here you are telling us how annoyed you are.
Were you expecting a revelation and became annoyed when there was nothing new in your eyes? Or did you click through already annoyed?
When the structure of UM football is flailing as badly as it is for as long as it has, breathlessly following speculation about what comes next is what people do. Eight years of suckage is tiring for everybody. Just hope somebody does something right before too long so that we aren't here doing this again four years from now.
Meanwhile, I suppose you'll just keep being annoyed.
|3 days 23 hours ago||"Biakabutuka,"||
|4 days 1 hour ago||Pronoun declension, etc. --||
"Whoever"/"him- or herself."
|5 days 7 hours ago||What I don't understand||
is why ALL teams had/have to wear away whites when only three or four games/week were even televised from the 1950s to the Oklahoma suit in ca. 1984?
|5 days 7 hours ago||It's||
a shit day in the neighborhood.
|1 week 1 day ago||Unfortunately,||
it only goes back to 2008.
I was hoping to match 2006 UM against Meyer's Florida team.
Of course, Gary Danielson already did this enough times to make me want to punch a cinderblock with my face. I was hoping for a better outcome.
|1 week 1 day ago||It is counterintuitive||
because the longer the transitive chain required to link one school to the other via wins, the more points accumulate.
By this logic, Michigan is only 4 points better than Notre Dame via their common opponent Northwestern, but Notre Dame, Ohio is 273 points better after requiring a chain of 24 transitive wins to connect it to Notre Dame.
I wonder if there is a way to put 2014 Michigan State up against 1904 Chicago?
|1 week 1 day ago||You're both right.||
The idea of journalism is an inspiring concept.
The current practice of journalism in the US MSM is a mess of hot sewage with occasional edible food particles floating on top.
|1 week 1 day ago||I doubt||
M fans are prepared to forgive Jimi for dissing M in his warm-up comments to the crowd at the Band of Gypsies concert on 1-1-70.
Although those comments were longer ago than Harbaugh's.
|1 week 2 days ago||Not to nit-pick,||
but I was just curious and looked it up.
The plural of "staff" is "staff," unless you are talking about music notation, in which case it is "staves (pronounced "stavz")."
|1 week 2 days ago||I didn't read the damn thing||
and it doesn't sound like I need to. If you listen in class, you can pass the test without reading the book (to clarify, I do read books) and if you read the comments, you can figure out how much, if any, you are missing by not giving media tool-bags their coveted clicks.
It sounds like Ford's criteriae for "dumpster-fire"-hood combine variables (lack of constraint by any system of law, breakdown in the fundamental functions of an educational institution, football team won-lost percentage) without any functional relationships and jumble them together until the word-salad that spews out is void of any informative or factual relevence.
I would say that, until DB was dumped, UM AD was in a dark place. The changes since indicate to me that UM has people capable of taking meaningful actions in timely fashion, and, therefor, until we find out otherwise, UM is on a trajectory to end up in fine shape with a better institutional reputation than FSU of UNC will ever get to, and with a winning program to boot. And Ford will then offer to polish our collective soul-dong, and we will turn our collective back on him and tell him to fuck off. But it won't matter because UM is bigger than anything Ford will contrive in his search for click-bait.
|1 week 2 days ago||It's not||
about having "asshats [there but for the grace of God . . .]" on the team, but whether the school and the local constabulary and justice system abort the normal function of law and order in order to support the proclivities of well-established habitual criminals, which, as far as I can see, nobody has hung on Ann Arbor yet.
Clark's case is a misfortune but, as far as I can see, not an embarrassment to the ethics of the UM AD.
|1 week 2 days ago||So many choices||
in answering this question.
Speaking of jenga:
|1 week 2 days ago||Took me||
a half-hour later.
The first-year magic combined with two preventable losses left me on the fence.
Bellomy's performance, with a 5-* QB recruit available on the roster, left me wondering if the post-November-'06 nightmare was really over. I think that is when we started hearing about how Hoke needed more time.
Time ran out for me with the '13 Akron-PSU stretch and 27-for-27. Young line and all those excuses, but I still had to wonder why these young lineman still couldn't handle Akron. No decent third-year coach could possibly turn in an unending torrent of intolerable performances like that one. Disappointing, maybe. But not wretched.
I held my breath for a Nuss miracle, but only out of respect for the idea that firing a coach before the fourth year was early-2000s ND behavior, and would only make repairing the mounting institutional damage harder in the long run.
I think that losing DB was the unexpected gift of this year, and really holds the door open to the kind of "return-to-greatness" thinking that makes me wonder if I'm not an ND fan from 15 years ago.
|1 week 3 days ago||For pure turbulence||
I would nominate either the events leading to the benching of Willis Ward in the Georgia Tech game of Oct. 20, 1934, or the events leading up to Harry Kipke's resignation as UM HFC sometime after the 1937 season.
The first gave rise to the following:
Kipke lost his job after two losing seasons after earlier bringing back-to-back MNCs to UM in 1932-3. The official reasons for his demission were given as follows in the 12/12/37 Chicago Herald Tribune:
|1 week 3 days ago||The||
Earl Bruce method.
Good for an upset win.
|1 week 6 days ago||Has anyone||
consulted Steve Everitt?
|1 week 6 days ago||I prefer to take a positive view||
and suppose that Schlissel is genuine man willing to speak his mind even as he continues feeding it and developing it. Of course, I'm contrasting him with the outgoing AD when I do this. So far, his actions appear to all be hitting the spot.
|1 week 6 days ago||My pile||
started in the den.
I was sent in against it after losing my driver's license a few days before a court date.
I eventually found an expired passport, my original SSN card, and parts to a piano trio from a group I haven't seen in a few years.
The pile had overflowed the desktop and started reducing floor space but I don't fully blame myself. Cats were involved.
|1 week 6 days ago||Aren't you||
looking past this week's opponents?
|1 week 6 days ago||After actually looking at||
Cat Fancy, I discovered it to be a surprisingly deep read with a passionate and committed social mission, for instance, in it's unflinching discussions of shelters, strays, colony maintainance, TNR, and other difficult homeless pet social issues.
Kudos for the product-placement reference.
|1 week 6 days ago||"We'll stay in touch"||
|2 weeks 11 hours ago||All right,||
|2 weeks 11 hours ago||I think it can be argued||
that the music degree is a square peg in a round university hole because of its teaching demands. It is tolerated in a university environment because a strong music program is seen as a necessary component of a comprehensive university environment.
Clearly, football is the same (there are elite schools with no or little music component) in its own twisted way. I think it makes perfect sense to make an analogous honest university accomodation with the indispensable history of college football.
|2 weeks 11 hours ago||A solid||
liberal-arts degree, as opposed to a specialized technical degree, will open doors outside the area of subject-matter expertise, or at least that's the ideology I absorbed in the process of getting one.
Cram the football degree with secondary areas drawn from the business, teaching, management side of sports while including the liberal arts staples -- composition, sciences, history -- and I don't see why it needs to be a hollow acquisition.
|2 weeks 11 hours ago||Comment #13||
on that thread put me off Harbaugh for a while. Back in those days, everything was anonymous. I suppose you can't believe everything you read.
|2 weeks 12 hours ago||I agree||
that the non-performance element in a liberal arts degree in music performance is the strong point of Brian's argument.
The music major is itself a creation of a conflicted history amalgamating the conservatory tradition of Napoleanic France, a sort of straight-up vocational skills training for a sort of laboring class of performing musicians, the musicology discipline out of the German philosophical/university tradition and the egalitarian/mass-access ideal of the great American land-grant university tradition.
It has created its share of headaches for deans of liberal arts schools down through the years as they tried to apply the increasingly corporate-minded management mentality of maximizing yield from contact hours and other metrics to a field in which much of the actual teaching is done on a one-on-one basis. It has fared badly in the modern era as expectations for the academic side of music -- history and literature, theory and harmony, methods, orchestration, keyboard harmony, score-reading, etc. -- as well as performance expectations are watered down in order to conform better with the delivery model of majors that fair better in a mass-access university system.
Clearly football has its own tortured NCAA history to overcome. But the model -- the coach awarding a grade for the 40 hours/week spent on football as maybe 30-40 semester-hours of a 120-hour major as that work is drastically understated in order to give the student/athlete generous access to secondary course material in order to put him/her on a solid post-graduate footing -- is valid.
Another music-school tradition worthy of importation to the field of football:
Let scholarship students pull in as much money as they want from outside work while working their way through school. Booker T Jones recorded the deathless Born under a Bad Sign sessions with Albert King flying to Memphis on weekends while simultaneously acquiring a degree in trombone performance at the vaunted music school at Indian University.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||What were the chances||
I would spring a Bamberg reference on a former Bamberger? I could have used Salem 1692, but that was really a minor event compared to events in the Old World back then. Plus, Bamberg is more obscure to modern audiences (to me, obscurity is a plus).
Seine lange erfahrung interessiert mich sehr.
I regret seeing Ablauf's name (de.: "run of events?") in a context like this one because he really has been an institutional voice of balance, sanity and reassuring authority for a long time, including flattering comments about MgoBlog back in 2011.
I always fear the Terror that seems to come after every revolution.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Yours||
is the first comment to make me consider that a night game might be a good idea.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||I believe||
that's seven years, when Lloyd was coach.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||You can put||
your employer in a good light without trashing someone else.
"Hell no we don't want you" -- the remarks were made the summer before CC '07 -- are you talking about some job other than HC?
Reactions here ran pretty hot at the time.
Mob psychology goes one way, then the other.
I hope we get the right guy, including if it's Harbaugh. But I hope we can do it without yet another MgoBoard re-enactment of the Bamberg witchcraft trials of 1627.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Ablauf/role in concussiongate.||
First of all, he was working under DB, so his job description probably didn't include accusing DB of evading responsibility or shifting blame from himself. He might have thought it, but as an employee of DB, that wasn't in his province. If anything, that is a difficult position to be in. Blaming him for putting out DB's statement at 1 AM is probably giving him more credit/blame than he is due.
I get the feeling that many here are hearing David Ablauf's name for the first time, and reacting to his comments in front of a classroom as if they were an interview with the NYT.
As far as the "openly despises," I suspect that might be a response triggered simply by the OP above. I would hope for folks to have a much greater appetite for further information before arriving at such sweeping assessments, especially in the case of someone who has been at it here as long as Ablauf.
I have the feeling that this bad-mouthing and up-voting of bad-mouthing is all a part of the fever-dream that goes along with any band-wagon effect. Band-wagon effect is fine, but it leads people to say things they regret later.
My M-fandom took as big a hit from the wretched performance of the AD in the RR years as anyone, but I for one would hesitate before dumping odure on the name of someone like Ablauf absent overwhelming evidence, and certainly not in response to something like a single board post.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||This is||
the sort of statement that requires some sort of sourcing, even if only indirect and anonymous. If you are only stating a personal opinion, you might want to back it.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||"Academics"||
is a word that, by its very nature, needs to be spelled correctly unless it is intended to be a joke. Especially if you make it the core of your argument and capitalize it in the middle of a sentence.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Oh no you don't.||
No neg for you.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I'm already on the self-abuse wagon.||
No need to preach to the choir.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I negged you||
for negging yourself.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I never realized you can neg yourself.||
I wonder if you can upvote yourself?
I'll neg myself again for asking.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Speaking of which,||
does anyone ever win going for two at the end of a game? Why didn't Fitz just take the game into overtime?
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Can you neg yourself twice?||
Where's a good place to discuss MgoPoints?
|3 weeks 4 min ago||What a difference||
a word makes.
That sounded worse than getting caned (canned).
|3 weeks 7 min ago||Furthermore,||
he has had success at his previous college jobs.
The Stanford AD made him promise no more DUIs, but other than that, its been smooth sailing.
|3 weeks 9 min ago||Does your new signature line||
refer to a certain NFL coach whose recent downturn we've been following with interest?
If so, I hope you don't have to change it for a long long time.
|3 weeks 12 min ago||I think,||
in a worst case, we're still talking about the AD being subservient to the HFC.
I don't think there's any question about Hoke firing Schlissel. And I doubt even Harbaugh would mess with Schlissel.
I think it will actually help right the ship if Harbaugh has the power to choose who does and who doesn't review game film with him.
|3 weeks 49 min ago||"turned the ship around with ease"||
is technically correct (as in burning a 300,000 season-ticket wait-list), but probably not in the way the author was thinking.
|3 weeks 52 min ago||"shoe-in candidate?"||
I can see the temptation to merge this metaphor with that of "the shoe in the door." But the time to stop fractured usage is before the camel gets its toe in the tent.
|3 weeks 22 hours ago||2007: "We want a Michigan Man||
2007: "We want a Michigan Man who understand our traditions and will continue what we've been doing for four decades"
2011: "We want to pretend the last three years didn't happen and get a Michigan Man who, even if he sucks, understands our traditions and will continue what we've been doing for the preceding four decades"
2014: "We want to pretend the last seven years didn't happen and get a Michigan Man who understands our traditions and will continue what we've been doing for the preceding four decades. Hopefully someone who doesn't suck."
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Meyer||
|3 weeks 1 day ago||That was worth it||
just for the "Catholepistemiad of Michigania."
Also the School of Homeopathy.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||With Rice as AD||
you better believe people will respect our "offensive weapons."
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Amen to that.||
Time to get rid of that white shit.
Here's what it looked like v. USC in M's second-ever bowl game in 1948 (don't believe the description); for some reason, the 3+-minute clip plays twice:
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I thought it was||
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Can't say||
"#whateverittakestogetbacktocompetitiveness" without saying [Steve] "Everitt."
I don't mind beating IU as well.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I'm beginning to think||
"canning" will always look like "caning" ever since someone mentioned the similarity awhile back. I never confused the two before that.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Through||
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Harbaugh||
will hand-deliver it at game's end when UM plays Arizona in the Rose Bowl next year.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Actually,||
he didn't even write the email.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Did you forget||
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Rosenberg||
was in Hoke's office last August for a one-on-one interview.
Apparently the slot at SI that his fraudulent work at the Freep earned him made him too useful to shun.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Maybe this time||
it didn't come from a Regent in defiance of an embattled AD. Much has changed since 10-24-14.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||But at least||
the season-ticket waiting list will be restored.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Did you omit||
the quotation marks around "sn
|3 weeks 6 days ago||This was so,||
but is more associated with an era in which women were considered more like property than people. Social changes, like all others, create the rise of new language to give verbal expression to them, hence the rise of locutions like "chairperson" and "chairpersoness."
Just in case, it may be time to start getting comfortable with the locution "Michigan Person."
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Will that be||
checked or carry-on?
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Maybe||
Harbaugh will get to hire his own boss after all.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I'm sorry,||
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I don't think||
this is neg-bomb worthy.
After all, does anybody think Schlissel just realized today UM might be looking for a DB replacement?
If any current candidates were a woman, is it not plausible the word "person" would have been used instead of "man?"
I don't think there is anything harmful intended by the above post.
However, "Slip of the tongue" and "inadvertent" are pretty much the same thing. I still wouldn't expect to see 29 negs over a tautology like that.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Isn't DB||
still in the Dominoe's money as well?
I don't want an ugly divorce, but I just don't think DB was in this for the money or that he cares about severence.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I think||
a Title might be a bridge too far for football this year.
But keep up the good feelings.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||There are||
a lot of "talk before you think" folks out there.
I think Schlissel is off to a strong start silencing the doubters.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||CC:||
|3 weeks 6 days ago||It sounds like||
he started his study of big-time NCAA sports by listening to RR's introductory presser, and took notes.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I think||
the Michigan Men who weren't Michigan Men before they were Michigan Men actually turn out OK.
I'm letting my EEE BARWIS little schoolgirl side out of the bag for this one.
I can say it now -- I wasn't that impressed by the Hoke introductory presser. It sounded to me like a bag full of empty slogans and mortally wounded sentence fragments. But I kept my mouth shut, until now. It might still be heresy.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||This OP||
is technically a tiny beit redundant, but I don't think you can have too many of these. Edit: all this talk of cooking reminds me of:
|4 weeks 5 min ago||With due respect --||
No -- uniformz.
|4 weeks 12 min ago||What will this do||
to all the "fire DB" t-shirts?
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||Per OP||
Where are you quoting this from? For starters, it will bring this straw-man argument closer into the ballpark to say "or any other top defensive coordinator with whom RR had an established successful working relationship, which is part of the real issue. Contradicting this straw-man argument as stated really doesn't accomplish anything.
I believe the Casteel saga has already been treated at book length, but it doesn't look like you have read it. It might save time if you acquaint yourself with the documentary record before trying to set everyone else straight.
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||In 1998||
RR coached QB Shaun King to a 3495-passing-yard undefeated season at Tulane as OC and QB coach.
Mallet was already out the door in any case, but Lloyd steered QB recruit Weinke to Iowa, where he ultimately ended up trying out for kicker.
I don't know why both RR and Threet were so futile in 2008, but I see no reason to suppose RR didn't use Threet in accordance with whatever talents he might have shown. 2008 Michigan was destined to stink up whatever offensive system it attempted.
Crumbling defense, recruiting weakness were already lurking in the background; Freepgate and a nonstop uphill recruiting climate and whatever else turned M's trajectory into a tsunami of shit.
Maybe Schlissel is the change we really needed to finally get the ship rightside up again.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||I wonder||
what color you would use to raise colon cancer awareness?
I hope the "Fire DB" t-shirts are pink, as well.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||I can not imagine||
how it is possible to contemplate murder while on shrooms.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||I'm always||
leery of public response to correcting grammar, and I see less of it around here these days.
I applaud you for helping encourage a high grammatical standard of discourse.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||I just noticed||
your signature line.
How long have you had that?
|4 weeks 1 day ago||NO ENTRY.||
My craziest exploit may have been during my tender years at Thurston Elementary, but I really didn't come here to embarrass myself further than my previous comments here already have.
I just wanted to say that my first response to the OP title was "This sounds like DB's strangest ticket give-away yet."
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Au contraire;||
our clock management should get us a good part of the way toward no time left on the clock. He'll just have to do it from the M 3-yard line starting with 3 seconds left.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||I always thought||
the proof that RR was the true Michigan Man to the end, as well as the complete anti-LLoyd, was that after the transition to Hoke, D-Rob and Gardner were both still in Ann Arbor rather than in Eugene.
No one knows what would happen in what-if world, but it's hard to escape speculating that D-Rob and Gardner both would have come out miles ahead somewhere other than here in Ann Arbor. This suggests that RR took the opposite tack from what Carr took with Mallette and Weinke (recruit), and hence showed UM much more class than UM ever showed with him. I still don't think he gets enough credit for smoothing the path to Hoke's first season; I also thought it was dubious to ditch anyone after only three years, but this has been discussed elsewhere. I think we have taken our lumps and should round the corner sometime soon, and I think RR is better off in Arizona for now.
Fortunately, Gardner is far more than just a brilliant HS QB prospect, and I think he'll find a deeper level of success overall due to the harder road he has been fated to travel.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||CC: Mike Smith.||
Haven't seen this elsewhere, from comment section:
Smith et alia really brought the Falcons alive for a few years after the Vick/Petrino debacle; I haven't stayed clued in so I have no idea what happened since.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||It may sound worse out of context.||
Or maybe not.
In the name of fairness, I might as well make a public show of my side of the interaction. (This was before RR's third year, when DB's main datapoint was the response to the Freep jihad. Four years later, Michael Rosenberg is in Hoke's office for a one-on-one interview, so, yeah, perspectives change. Not to get off-track.)
This is the full exchange, edited to minimize outage (of me; this is of course in reverse order):
|4 weeks 1 day ago||I think||
|4 weeks 1 day ago||I'm hoping||
you can be persuaded to change the word "forever" to "until we get a proper AD and really qualified HC in the saddle."
I suppose you could argue that Bo's seven initial bowl losses were cold comfort to those who endured up-and-down years after 1951 hoping for a return of the Mad Magicians and annual MNC contention of the late '40s, yet we look back on it as a golden age and the beginning of the sellout-crowd era.
Watch our the boys in our colors stack up a few exciting and courageous victories in the next few years and see if the old feelings don't start coming back.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||"I think . . .||
The waitlist was unharmed by 3-9. What nuked fan support was a continued shitty product combined by unmistakeable communication from the AD that it was, after just a product, and that the AD intended to soak every last penny out of anyone who was sucker enough to continue buying it. That is what we have to get out the door. A losing team deserves support; a predatory program hawking a shitty "brand" doesn't. Brandon has inserted himself between the fans and their team, and shat all over both.
I would replace the word "contrition" with "shift in tactics"; "contrition" would be the case if he had shown it four years ago, or at least before he became the cause of embarrasment to UM in the national press.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||There was||
roiling at the time of the Hoke hire, quieted by recruiting and canny calls on 4th down in the 2011 Nebraska game.
But back when, I remember commenting that Hoke would be the signpost of the Brandon era, either way.
I think when Brandon goes, the hostility engendered by his degradation of the game-day experience and four additional years of futility will go with it.
And I don't think we can afford to give any aid and comfort to anyone anywhere who might still nurture a hope that everything will just blow over and return to normal once the riled-up fans find another shiny object to obscess over.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||I suppose||
Schlissel has the inside scoop on donors, regents, contract negotiations, etc., etc. etc. Your question can not be answered meaningfully without access to this inside info.
You should ask Schlissel.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||I clicked through||
to see what the definition of "should" is, as in, maybe, "should be any day now," but it was just a guy's opinion.
Still worth it to be thorough.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Schlissel||
only got here in July.
MSC was here for three years while Brandon alienated the M fan base.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||I checked --||
They played all their games in 1941.
After beating Stanford 49-0 in 1902, M didn't go to another bowl game until defeating USC 49-0 in 1948. M won its first four bowl games (all Rose Bowls) and then lost its first seven bowls under Bo Schembechler.
The 1941 team is overshadowed by the 1940 team (Harmon). They beat MSU, tied OSU, and lost to Minnesota. Minnesota was a major rival to UM in the '40s when they played the same spoiler role as did Chicago in the aughts of the 20th century.
As far as I know, they did not then call it "Team 62."
|4 weeks 3 days ago||I don't want to boast,||
but I had noticed we are having a terrible season even before I saw this post.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||I agree.||
I don't think the fire under Brandon's seat spontaneously combusted. Never quit while you are ahead.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||I'm not||
that well-acquainted with WD's history, so what you say may explain some of what I am seeing. In any case, it would be better for him to be chastened for something he actually did. (I understand he brought some of this on himself by not getting his ducks in a row before posting, but I bet even he didn't imagine he was writing for Keith Olbermann's audience.)
I also assume that vindication in this case won't give him impunity for any future transgressions.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||We don't know what||
got him to that point. Never give up.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Because||
WD has been branded a liar based on the official response. Based on the venom directed at WD, I think there are few who can say honestly they don't care.
If the evidence is still obscured by devious practice at high levels, then it is the admin that has made a bigger issue out of this.
Before we let the truth decide, we need to get to the truth. If people are trying to cover up the truth, then the cover-up needs to be exposed.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Preventing||
devious practices by the Brandon régime from falsely defaming one of MgoBlog's more energetic posters, and his unfair banishment by the MgoBoard, is reason enough to get to the bottom of this story of ongoing confusion, obfuscation and misinformation.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||I say||
we keep piling up the firewood. Don't quit pushing until the job is finished.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||It would be nice||
to expose UM's FOIA-request régime in time to put it into the same rocket with David Brandon before we blast it into the sun.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Don't||
worry. You can get used to anything.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||"Fire Rodriguez||
and everyone would be happy happy."
Actually, that was Brandon's idea, and I was against it at the time, mostly because I didn't want Michigan to become what ND had become before they got better again and stomped us 31-0.
So actually, that is another point against Brandon.
I'm aware there are factions. Some of those factions are willing to betray the current team, the coach and the program, going as far as conspiring with opportunistic and unprincipled journalists in order to sabotage Michigan football in order to pursue their partisan objectives. (It would be nice to see these unprincipled journalists iced out of the AD and true advocates of the program, like JU Bacon, welcomed, rather than the other way around.)
Do you not see how you undercut your own argument?
|5 weeks 6 days ago||I think||
that's quite a leap.
BTW, is your avatar a still from a Marilyn Manson video?
|5 weeks 6 days ago||BS.||
Wait a minute. [checks link.]
God dammit, who isn't having a better season than we are?
If you don't start a "CC: Chris Wilkerson" thread," then I will.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||For a while.||
Eventually, we'll all die.
Then our children will die.
Ultimately, there will be a heat death of the entire universe.
But in the short term, I think you're right.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Well||
Actually, it could get worse:
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Semi-||
Your sentence means the opposite, otherwise.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||If he is in exile,||
he might return at the head of the invading army that recaptures Ann Arbor and slaughters everyone connected with the Brandon regime, including any remaining season-ticket holders.
Thats how it always is in Rome or Bagdad, anyway.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Brandon will||
reverse what he is told to reverse, but he is what he is.
And how do you reverse incompetence in HC searches?
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Who's||
in charge of pulling the QB if he gets a concussion?
Oops, I mean "probable, mild concussion."
|5 weeks 6 days ago||I suppose||
two years of 7-6 represents at least a temporary halt to his downward trajectory, a sort of critical point.
How many years can he go 7-6 and still say he is turning it around?
|5 weeks 6 days ago||I think||
31-0 is a blowout loss, and 30-14 to Minnesota at home is unless semantics.
Or do you mean more of them?
|5 weeks 6 days ago||After more-or-less||
being welcomed and supported here, unlike RR, Brandon has MADE himself the "the toxic atmosphere of Michigan Football." Once you remove the cannister, the gas cloud will go with it.
|6 weeks 15 hours ago||You left out half.||
Half to expand non-revenue sports, half to baloon an AD full of corporate yes-men and marketing hacks.
|6 weeks 15 hours ago||Until||
it became apparent that his commercialization of the M tradition was destroying the fan base that pays for it all.
|6 weeks 15 hours ago||NO||
|6 weeks 15 hours ago||"And . . .||
I'm glad we've identified the source of the problem. Were these the same "naysayers" that launched "stretchgate" and propelled Michael "do you have any idea what countable hours are" Rosenberg to his dream job at SI? (Imagine the positive vibes when M.R. was ushered into Hoke's office this past summer to interview yet another Michigan Man living the dream.)
I'm glad Michigan is back to "competitive" after only seven years of rebuilding. Lloyd must be so proud of the foundation he created for us.
|6 weeks 16 hours ago||Not my will . . .||
but that of either Harbaugh, Miles or any other remotely respectable potential head coach be done.
I think you should ask them.
I don't think UM can have a Div-I level football team while he is still around.
And that is personal to my family.
|6 weeks 16 hours ago||They might also||
recoup some of that $2 million in years to come when cheap shilling and adverserial management abate enough to avoid annihilating a generation of potential alumni fans in years to come, although planning for anything beyond the next quarterly income statement is not something that today's generation of corporate raiders and economic hit men are prone to do by nature without a rebellion in the streets and the direct threat of violence.
Wait a minute . . . Dave, is that you?
|7 weeks 1 day ago||I am||
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Meanwhile||
Brandon and Hoke roll out the
|7 weeks 1 day ago||I don't think||
"no religion" is in the FAQ.
I think it's just a custom.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Not to mention the FAMILY.||
Think of the CHILDREN.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||"if we had made a good coaching hire"||
Perhaps the most important part of the AD's job, n'est-ce pas?
Especially after firing the predecessor after only three seasons.
If we're going to be fair, let's not just include the good things, like gutting the non-yes-men in the AD, alienating the fans, debasing the game-day experience, and treating the whole thing like his own personal playground.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||I wonder||
if the Daily will print "Daily screws up" as a story because it appeared here as an OP?
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Maybe it took a year||
for Hoke to realize Brandon was sucking his guts out.
Film study, Woow Factor, Unimformz.
Brandon said early on that football was the goose with the golden eggs, and that he was going to focus on it.
Maybe this is the outcome of an egoistic know-nothing giving the football program his brand of TLC.
I may be going delusional here, but could Brandon have mandated Bo-era style ball on his handpicked coach in his dream job?
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Stanford||
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Everybody||
is doing everything better after leaving Michigan these days.
Did you see Gerg's most-improved D at Texas after leaving here?
Everybody seems to improve by leaps and bounds once they hit the road from here.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Edit.||
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Hoke's guitar amp||
doesn't go up to 11.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Thnx||
for the replies.
I didn't know about your sticky. I've been referring back to ShockFX's old post for years now.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Loyalty||
|7 weeks 5 days ago||How do you||
upload an image to a comment field? I know how to link to images on-line, but is it possible to upload images?
|7 weeks 5 days ago||oops||
|7 weeks 5 days ago||I think this thread was needed.||
The proximate ref called it complete.
Who overruled him?
And how the hell did it survive review?
|7 weeks 5 days ago||I was watching||
on a TV at a club with the sound off.
But is there a snowflake thread for that
SHIT PLAY CALL on 3rd and 8?
The ref standing right there called it a completion. What the hell happened? Who overruled him?
|7 weeks 6 days ago||It was||
a breakdown in communication. We are putting a protocal in place.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Maybe||
she's the one taking the picture?
|7 weeks 6 days ago||How forthcoming||
do you think Olbermann would be about admitting he and/or his staff mis-read his source here?
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Well||
if the post was fake, this will get Brandon's office cracking on those FOIA requests.
If we don't hear anything from those, I bet we can trust it.
If it comes down to Obermann having to admit he or his staff mis-read the front page, I wonder how Mgoblog-gate will end up?
|7 weeks 6 days ago||If you||
could do it all over . . .
Put it another way, is an Olbermann shout-out the BEST thing that could have happened, or the WORST . . .
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Just the ones||
that weren't his.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||I'm not sure||
that, if I watched anything from before the 1920s, I'd even be able to recognize it as football.
Here is some of the famous Edison film of the Chicago game of 1904:
|7 weeks 6 days ago||I think||
that was the first since 1971 to go through the conference undefeated.
Best of all was beating OSU by the stereotypical Big-10 score of 9-3 (one missed extra point).
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Well,||
to give him credit, that actually is sort of funny.
Do have to give him kudos for accessibility.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||FWIW,||
he was as of 8-27-10.
|8 weeks 2 min ago||We're booing||
to keep their coaches from getting them killed.
|8 weeks 7 min ago||"If||
|8 weeks 16 min ago||"There are more Michigan fans||
in the Columbus area than there are Ohio State fans in Ann Arbor"
This makes sense; there is more non-OSU stuff going on in Columbus than non-UM stuff in AA.
|8 weeks 26 min ago||Well,||
RR's looking like a winner now, too.
|8 weeks 30 min ago||Not||
in a world where you have "sort of the same," and people who use "same" loosely to mean both.
To put it another way, "sort of the same" and "the exact same" are sort of the same, but not the exact same.
|8 weeks 35 min ago||This is||
a run-of-the-mill no-call reffing "scandal."
It isn't "the real" scandal.
|8 weeks 36 min ago||A competent coaching staff||
shouldn't rely on infallible refs to help prevent them from making scandalous and atrocious player management decisions.
If you look at all the fake- and no-call interference calls, you would know not to rely on refs to be the only line-of-defense preventing serious head injury.
|8 weeks 41 min ago||I think||
this is "OT."
|8 weeks 46 min ago||UM||
would get throttled in AA.
|8 weeks 1 hour ago||I presume||
you don't mean Arizona wins.
|8 weeks 1 hour ago||Speaking of||
post-UM careers, whatever became of Gerg?
What is it about this place that brings out "special" performances from just about everyone these days?
|8 weeks 1 hour ago||Let's face it.||
With DB in the AD, EVERY coach we hire is going to be the worst one Michigan has ever had.
|8 weeks 1 hour ago||If MSU wins out||
we might have an all 2- and 3- star Rose Bowl.
|8 weeks 1 hour ago||He won't||
need a map to find his way around Ann Arbor.
|8 weeks 10 hours ago||That wasn't||
in the B1G.
|8 weeks 10 hours ago||FUCK||
|8 weeks 10 hours ago||MANBALL!!!||
|8 weeks 10 hours ago||RR's D||
gets cluthch turnover.
|8 weeks 10 hours ago||Actually,||
he may be better off without the help in the film room.
|8 weeks 15 hours ago||Sure enough,||
the wagons are circling.
|8 weeks 15 hours ago||/s||
|8 weeks 15 hours ago||"I'm||
Reminds me of 1973:
"I'm not a crook."
|8 weeks 15 hours ago||So||
he's using his time and his coaches time to get them to teach him football during their film sessions.
I now think I remember hearing something about this back in the day. Instead of enough money to hire a serious DC (RR era), he gives the gift of himself.
It's a grey area -- I'm sure other ADs like to sniff around in the engine room time to time. But in a case like this, only the good judgement of the AD can prevent this from metastasizing into a full-blown nightmare. Apparently it didn't.
|8 weeks 22 hours ago||"It;'s hard . . ."||
and yet you did it, so far, without triggering a backlash.
I can't help but thing of a bit Frankie Boyle did before he became unbroadcastable by the BBC:
|8 weeks 23 hours ago||Needs||
Unless "stupid" is someone who got buried alive.
|8 weeks 23 hours ago||Is there a "Michigan" problem?||
I'm still trying to figure out how a guy one game removed from an MNC at W Va. was unable to sniff a bowl victory here?
How is this the same Hoke whose 2006 Ball State team played a Lloyd-era M uncomfortably close?
Perhaps I'll wake up and it will be the morning of November 18th, 2006. It seems just as plausible I dreamed the last eight years as what my lying eyes keep telling me.
|8 weeks 23 hours ago||Opening||
the "intersex" door?
I admit I had to tear myself away from contemplating the medical, human rights and social implications of the following from the WIKI article:
Depending on standards of definition, it appears this population is between 0.1% and 1.5% of the total.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||I ditto.||
I saw the following attributed to B. Cooke:
"At Alabama, this is an aberration. It Michigan, it's a pattern."
The three days of apparent cover-up attempts prior to the Schlissel statement made it worse. This is the real topic of discussion: why we can't address a fuck-up and move on like a normal competant AD.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||It appears||
we have conflicting goals here.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||I think||
that is more accurately subtitled as "Do not want."
|8 weeks 1 day ago||RR's smooth||
transition to Hoke helped make 11-2 possible.
He might also have screwed Gardner's career by not telling him to run as fast as possible from Hoke's coaching staff. This is the opposite of what Carr did with QB recruit Weinke.
RR had no selfish reasons to want to help us out.
Lloyd, on the other hand . . . .
|8 weeks 1 day ago||My bad --||
I was thinking of a recruit, Scout #21 and Rival #14 QB Weinke.
Weinke "played sparingly" and competed for punter his senior season at Iowa. I wonder if he would have done better with M starting in '08?
|8 weeks 1 day ago||What if RR||
had taken that slant with D-Rob and Gardner?
Gardner, for one, would be a lot better off these days.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||You||
should try it again now.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||The folks who "blew up the fort"||
were the Lloyd's 5th-column spys who fed Michael Rosenberg the idea for his "do you have any idea what countable hours are" football-season-opening 2009 "stretchgate" "exposé."
I am ashamed to admit that, after seeing bitter denunciations on rival sites, I investigated a Brandon-suckhole Rosenberg piece at SI. I was prepared for sickness, but I was not prepared for the bitterness and sense of betrayal I felt when I read the first sentence of Rosenberg's as-always infantile and faithless text:
"This summer, I sat in Brady Hoke’s office to discuss the state of his Michigan football program."
IN JEST, I propose that this is a firing offense right there.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||True Mallett.||
Nobody has brought up the transfers incident, though.
If RR had wanted to treat Hoke the way Lloyd treated him, he could have screwed us badly. Imagine DRob finishing up at Oregon, or wherever but here. The smoothness of the RR-Hoke transition, or for that matter, the Bump-Bo transition in '69, gives us an idea of the type of class and sense of responsibility to the program we were looking for from LLoyd in '07 after years of doing things the "Michigan Way."
The depth of the character he displayed at that point is indirectly (inversely?) measured by the depth of the shit we are in now.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||The compendium of instances||
is nice to have in one place.
I'm not sure I follow your apparent central point:
I think not being "high-and-mighty" is good advice for anybody at any time.
Until you are more specific about how you mean it in regards to the Morris incident, though, it sounds like you are saying "Shut up about Morris because concussions just happen."
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Thank you||
|8 weeks 2 days ago||How do you really feel, Mrs. Canham?||
|8 weeks 2 days ago||I'll think we'll be fine when Brandon leaves.||
But I've started distancing myself from appeals to authority through proverbs, as in "Look before you leap/He who hesitates is lost." In that vein, we have:
Death by a thousand cuts.
Chinese water torture.
Heat death of the universe.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||"Or loyalty is more important than performance in Hoke's||
heirarchy of needs."
Change "Hoke" to "Brandon," and this exactly explains his hire in the first place.
I wonder if there is a recursive element to this institutional failure? It seems like a metaphor for the times.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||From the outside looking in,||
these kids seem well-instructed (off the field, at least).
I don't know if this is a part of their instruction set, but they do seem to avoid any ringing endorsements.
Their performance is, I think, in its way, a Schlissel-level performance. I think they are getting an education of sorts.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||The real opposite||
of love is apathy.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||"was corrected pretty quickly."||
I have to differ on that. In fact, that's where the guts of the problem appear to be, although not just on Hoke.
Someone quoted Canham elsewhere on the board: "Never turn a one-day problem into a two-day problem." Or four- and counting.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Is that all you've got?||
|8 weeks 2 days ago||"What did the President know, and when did he know it?"||
I believe that was Howard Baker's line.