The Cherokee has the most comfortable seats of the entire Jeep lineup. Super cushy. Thanks for this thread, I look forward to participating in 2019. The car business is a crazy world, the Metro Detroit Market is very different than the rest of the country. So many different factors, dealers don't compete with other brands they mainly compete with other dealers selling the same cars. It's a nasty business that I could dive into and talk about for hours.
(jeepinben) the dealer doesn't get to sell the vehicle twice. It's very rare that the dealer will buy the lease out bc of the residual and also the used car market is terrible. 95% of the time that lease vehicle is grounded, the leasing bank will sell it at auction and send someone to come pick up the vehicle to transport it.
The only time a lease is purchase by the dealership is when someone wants out of their lease, the difference between the lease buyout and appraisal is less than the remaining payments the customer has.
The residual is what also killed sedans. For years, if you came into the dealership, you were leaving with a Chrysler 300S. Why? it had a freaking 70-80% residual! When people would go to turn in their lease, some would want to buy their lease out. The only problem was the residual value would be 30k plus tax and the 300 would appraise around 20k. They would lease a new vehicle, we would ground the car and at some point, whether it was Ally, Chrysler Capital or US BANK one of the banks was taking a major loss.
I believe the shift has a lot to do with baby boomers. When you look at an older person climbing out of a car and trying to get in you feel bad for them. I like to tell my older clients that the mid size SUV's are "butt level." They can easily face the seat, turn, sit down and then get their legs in. They don't have to maneuver as much. Also the hatchback allows them to easily put things in and out as it's waste level. Not to mention other vehicles on the road are higher now so this gives them better visibility.
Unless you're purchasing that Ranger I find it hard that you will not be lured into an F150. Roughly 80% of vehicles in metro detroit are leased. When a consumer comes in and wants to lease a Canyon they find that it's cheaper to lease the bigger Sierra. I'm sure it will be the same thing with the Ranger and F150. The F150 is a higher volume piece which will get the rebates, lease support, have a better rate and residual. You'll be there scratching your head why you can lease a 45-50K truck cheaper than a 35k-40k truck.
I've sold vehicles for 6 years now. Sedans are officially dead. It's all about lease payments to people which is why trucks have taken off. You can lease a 50k RAM truck cheaper than 90% of remaining model lineup through CDJR. Families come in looking at a Durango, you then quickly shift them to a RAM Big Horn for half the price. Also the Jeep brand continues to rise, of the 374 units I sold last year 217 of them were Jeeps. It's getting to the point where FCA is going to reduce their brand to Jeep and RAM. Those are the heavy hitters. My owner was approached by FCA to open a Jeep only dealership, which are starting to open across the country. While the Gladiator will be very cool (the ultimate northern Michigan machine) it will be like the Wrangler which is not a high volume vehicle. If you ever consider purchasing a vehicle (terrible idea, you'll be under water) make sure it's a Wrangler, they actually hold their value.
What a tremendous football player. He brought an emotional edge to the defense that was much needed and then backed it up by morphing into a human heat seeking missile. I will miss not seeing him again in maize and blue however I appreciate that without a doubt he gave his heart and soul to the program and look forward to seeing him fly sideline to sideline in the NFL. I pray that he never wears the silver and honolulu blue on the next level. This young man doesn't deserve that. Go Blue.
As a father of a 2 1/2 year old boy and a newborn boy I cannot even comprehend what the Carr family is going through. I can't even read the articles without crying and putting myself in their shoes. Your kids aren't supposed to die before you and certainly not at 5 with such a future ahead of him. Life is so damn precious and this is a solid reminder to live it to the fullest. When I beat myself up over a freaking Michigan loss it seems so damn foolish compared to real life tragedies such as this.
If he was good enough to get reps he would be playing. I think his absence goes beyond his dismal play on the field and has everything to do with his attitude. Last time I recall him playing was when he had an opportunity to display his skills but fumbled the ball over and over. I think it's safe to say, he is physically gifted hover he's not a performer. He's a bust.
Harbaughs long winded explanation for the 2 point conversion is outstanding and hilarious....if they scored and executed the two point conversion three times and the kicked a field goal....hahaha. Love that this team went for the throat. Bold statement.
They look good. Still have a classic look, I like the bold red stripe. Not gonna lie, if Michigan did this with a maize strip and blue uniforms for a game I would like it. The key is it's simple, not Oregon Duck-ish
His podcast with Gregg Henson is great too. I would like to see those two on the radio. 97.1 & 105.1 have some weak radio hosts. Art Regner and Sean Baligen deserve spots too.
1.) It's new 2.) Under bumper to bumper warranty 3.) It's cheaper than buying with a small amount do at signing 4.) Provides you flexibility in the future as life changes 5.) With the way technology changes (iPhones) you want to have the freedom to get the newer model.
I sell cars and we have a 80% lease penetration. As a younger adult I always ask them: Do you want to be in a long term relationship OR short term?
Big deal, I'm sure there are many different opinions from teammates. Let's move on, I wish the season was closer so we could discuss the offensive line, quarterbacks, etc and not tweets.
Is he allowed to write an article about Michigan anymore? I'm not a fan of him but I do read the sports section in both DetNews/Freep and I've noticed all his articles are about MSU. I went to his archive and saw that from Oct 8th he has only three articles about Michigan. Since he obviously does not like the Wolverines, is there some type of an agreement between the Feep and UM that keeps this weasal away from UM?
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My dad is a sales manager at a Buick GM dealership and the wagon is the only thing he drives as a demo. He loves it.
The Cherokee has the most comfortable seats of the entire Jeep lineup. Super cushy. Thanks for this thread, I look forward to participating in 2019. The car business is a crazy world, the Metro Detroit Market is very different than the rest of the country. So many different factors, dealers don't compete with other brands they mainly compete with other dealers selling the same cars. It's a nasty business that I could dive into and talk about for hours.
That North Edition is very nice.
(jeepinben) the dealer doesn't get to sell the vehicle twice. It's very rare that the dealer will buy the lease out bc of the residual and also the used car market is terrible. 95% of the time that lease vehicle is grounded, the leasing bank will sell it at auction and send someone to come pick up the vehicle to transport it.
The only time a lease is purchase by the dealership is when someone wants out of their lease, the difference between the lease buyout and appraisal is less than the remaining payments the customer has.
The residual is what also killed sedans. For years, if you came into the dealership, you were leaving with a Chrysler 300S. Why? it had a freaking 70-80% residual! When people would go to turn in their lease, some would want to buy their lease out. The only problem was the residual value would be 30k plus tax and the 300 would appraise around 20k. They would lease a new vehicle, we would ground the car and at some point, whether it was Ally, Chrysler Capital or US BANK one of the banks was taking a major loss.
I believe the shift has a lot to do with baby boomers. When you look at an older person climbing out of a car and trying to get in you feel bad for them. I like to tell my older clients that the mid size SUV's are "butt level." They can easily face the seat, turn, sit down and then get their legs in. They don't have to maneuver as much. Also the hatchback allows them to easily put things in and out as it's waste level. Not to mention other vehicles on the road are higher now so this gives them better visibility.
Unless you're purchasing that Ranger I find it hard that you will not be lured into an F150. Roughly 80% of vehicles in metro detroit are leased. When a consumer comes in and wants to lease a Canyon they find that it's cheaper to lease the bigger Sierra. I'm sure it will be the same thing with the Ranger and F150. The F150 is a higher volume piece which will get the rebates, lease support, have a better rate and residual. You'll be there scratching your head why you can lease a 45-50K truck cheaper than a 35k-40k truck.
I've sold vehicles for 6 years now. Sedans are officially dead. It's all about lease payments to people which is why trucks have taken off. You can lease a 50k RAM truck cheaper than 90% of remaining model lineup through CDJR. Families come in looking at a Durango, you then quickly shift them to a RAM Big Horn for half the price. Also the Jeep brand continues to rise, of the 374 units I sold last year 217 of them were Jeeps. It's getting to the point where FCA is going to reduce their brand to Jeep and RAM. Those are the heavy hitters. My owner was approached by FCA to open a Jeep only dealership, which are starting to open across the country. While the Gladiator will be very cool (the ultimate northern Michigan machine) it will be like the Wrangler which is not a high volume vehicle. If you ever consider purchasing a vehicle (terrible idea, you'll be under water) make sure it's a Wrangler, they actually hold their value.
He would look pretty sweet in a Bears jersey next to Roquan Smith, blitzing behind Mack. That would be frightening.
What a tremendous football player. He brought an emotional edge to the defense that was much needed and then backed it up by morphing into a human heat seeking missile. I will miss not seeing him again in maize and blue however I appreciate that without a doubt he gave his heart and soul to the program and look forward to seeing him fly sideline to sideline in the NFL. I pray that he never wears the silver and honolulu blue on the next level. This young man doesn't deserve that. Go Blue.
RACK HIM!
The half blue circle on JBB is a nice touch
As a father of a 2 1/2 year old boy and a newborn boy I cannot even comprehend what the Carr family is going through. I can't even read the articles without crying and putting myself in their shoes. Your kids aren't supposed to die before you and certainly not at 5 with such a future ahead of him. Life is so damn precious and this is a solid reminder to live it to the fullest. When I beat myself up over a freaking Michigan loss it seems so damn foolish compared to real life tragedies such as this.
If he was good enough to get reps he would be playing. I think his absence goes beyond his dismal play on the field and has everything to do with his attitude. Last time I recall him playing was when he had an opportunity to display his skills but fumbled the ball over and over. I think it's safe to say, he is physically gifted hover he's not a performer. He's a bust.
***main concern is the short slot slant pass of the middle on Jabrill. That's the one weakness I see with this defense.***
1.) It's new
2.) Under bumper to bumper warranty
3.) It's cheaper than buying with a small amount do at signing
4.) Provides you flexibility in the future as life changes
5.) With the way technology changes (iPhones) you want to have the freedom to get the newer model.
I sell cars and we have a 80% lease penetration. As a younger adult I always ask them: Do you want to be in a long term relationship OR short term?
Is he allowed to write an article about Michigan anymore? I'm not a fan of him but I do read the sports section in both DetNews/Freep and I've noticed all his articles are about MSU. I went to his archive and saw that from Oct 8th he has only three articles about Michigan. Since he obviously does not like the Wolverines, is there some type of an agreement between the Feep and UM that keeps this weasal away from UM?