"Northwestern fans can be both heartened and disheartened by the loss to Minnesota just like how nineteenth-century resurrectionists were heartened when they pried a heart from a freshly-buried corpse and then disheartened it when they sold it to a disreputable anatomist."
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|2 days 13 hours ago||Yes, but do you have any more||
Yes, but do you have any more evidence. Gremlin doesn't think Bacon said anything like that, so he will need more proof. And do you have a video of the words coming out of Bacon's mouth? That could be any Bacon impersonator saying that.
|2 days 15 hours ago||I see you didn't answer the||
I see you didn't answer the part of my question that addresses you making things up. Unless you want to quit and take a lower paying job, you have to interview for and be offered a higher paying/higher profile job. Where did he do that? Where could he have "left at any time" to? Just because a coach is really good doesn't mean he can leave whenever he wants. For your statement to be true, he would have had to have been offered and turned down a better job. Also, I don't see why you think it means anything that beilein came out in support of Brandon considering he is his boss. Did you expect him to say "you know that guy who signs my check, he is an idiot."
|2 days 15 hours ago||For someone who prides||
For someone who prides himself on poking holes in other people's argument in this thread, you seem to have some gaping holes in your arguments. Why on earth do you think John beilein could leave Michigan at any time he wants? Who has offered him a job while he has been at Michigan that he could have left for?
|2 days 16 hours ago||And a supporting role in||
And a supporting role in negative yards rushing numerous times along with not scoring an offensive touchdown against ND and Utah. I'm not quite sure why you think Brandon did anything right with regards to football coach hiring and firing
|3 days 15 hours ago||Year fucking 6?!?! It really,||
Year fucking 6?!?! It really, really pains me to use this example, but Dantonio had 11 wins in his 4th year at MSU. By year 6, he had 2 big 10 titles and two 11-win seasons. Good coaches don't need 6 years to win games. Just because it took Hoke 6 years to win at ball state doesn't mean it should take him that long here.
|4 days 18 hours ago||I never once had to pay money||
I never once had to pay money when I walked into a party, and a hat never made its way around to collect for the next keg. That isn't too bad in my book.
|6 days 3 hours ago||I'm saying Frank Clark stole||
I'm saying Frank Clark stole a laptop and had a felony on his record and sat out one game. Winston stood on a table and yelled profanity and got the same suspension. So yes, that is ridiculous. And no need to apologize. I should have said "as ridiculous as standing on a lunchroom table and yelling fuck you." Either way, people on Michigan's football team have done far worse than curse in public and got less than a game suspension. I bet some of the coaches can be heard swearing on the sidelines. Better suspend them a game because won't someone think of the children? All of those people sitting in the front row can hear people swear. Simply unacceptable.
|6 days 7 hours ago||Getting suspended for an||
Getting suspended for an entire game for standing on a table and yelling sexist obscenities is about as ridiculous as getting suspended for a game for getting a flag for yelling "fuck you" to a ref.
|1 week 3 hours ago||You yourself said Lloyd Carr||
|1 week 3 hours ago||You yourself said Lloyd Carr||
You yourself said Lloyd Carr didn't like him and made it tougher for him. And Lloyd Carr is part of the athletic department. The fact that someone was able to have a job in the athletic department and make things hard on the head coach should tell you all you need to know about our athletic department's role in RichRod's failing here. I also remember plenty of fans who didn't like him before he coached a game here. They cited bullshit reasons like his real estate dealings and his buyout problems. I don't think a single person here thinks that RichRod had zero fault in failing at Michigan, but you seem to be the only one who refuses to admit that maybe the university of Michigan played a part
|1 week 5 hours ago||You said to point to one||
You said to point to one concrete example of RichRod not being supported. I would say famous alums on national tv disassociating themselves with the football team and the coach would be an example. You know, like all the NFL guys coming out to tell everyone to support Hoke and the team. Don't ask a question and then get bent out of shape when someone answers with factual info that you don't like. But that wouldn't fit your narrative, so you ignore it. Kinda like you mentioning Lloyd Carr not liking RichRod and not even mentioning he was a prominent figure in the athletic department. Of course, why would the former coach, who is a legend and had a job in the athletic department, not liking the current football coach, play any part in him struggling?
|1 week 8 hours ago||Recruiting can be affected by||
Recruiting can be affected by players coming out against the current coach. When ex-players go on Monday night football and proclaim they are from "Lloyd Carr's university of Michigan" and say their high school instead of their college, it shows a very large lack of support.
I get that you don't think RRichRod is a good coach, but to imply he got full support from the University is fucking ridiculous.
|1 week 3 days ago||He has as many bowl wins in||
He has as many bowl wins in his first 2 seasons as the last 16 years combined at Arizona. But you're right, nothing special
|1 week 3 days ago||I actually remember stories||
I actually remember stories of upperclassmen working AGAINST RichRod. Wasn't there a story about a CB who took plays off on purpose?
|1 week 3 days ago||You realize he was a really||
You realize he was a really good coach before Michigan as well, right? If turning Arizona around and winning 9, 10 and 11 games regularly at a place like West Virgnia doesn't convince you he is a good coach and that there is a good chance that a toxic environment at Michigan was one of the main reasons he failed here, nothing will convince you. The funny thing is, his start at WV was very similar to his start here (awful first year). I don't know why you think his 3 years at Michigan is the norm for him and not, you know, the entire rest of his coaching career that he has been really good.
|1 week 4 days ago||Context means nothing! 8-5,||
Context means nothing! 8-5, 8-5, two bowl wins and beating Oregon twice means nothing. Can you name another team that has done that since RichRod has been there?
|1 week 4 days ago||I guess my point wasn't so||
I guess my point wasn't so much that there was only one game he forced his d coordinator to run it, it's that he only picked a game or two here or there instead of forcing him to run it from day 1. Can you explain why he did it once in 2008 and then waited until 2010 to force his defensive scheme on the d coordinator? Why didn't he do it in 2008 more? And the most obvious question - if he was such an offensive genius, why the fuck would he force any defensive scheme on any coordinator?
I also noticed you completely ignored every game we didn't run the 3-3-5. Why would you ignore data points like that that don't fit your argument?
|1 week 4 days ago||You know there were other||
You know there were other aspects of special teams than kicking field goals, right? I don't remember where I saw it, but someone did a ranking of special teams like they do for offense and defense (yards given up via point return, kickoff, punt distance, etc...). Is much harder to quantify, but Michigan wasn't actually ranked low. They were average. It is just easier for fans to remember field goals and nothing else because they result in points on the scoreboard.
|1 week 4 days ago||I guess saying that one||
I guess saying that one statistic makes him not spectacular. Don't worry about the fact that Arizona has had two winning pac 12 season in the last 16 years. Also don't worry about the fact that he has more bowl wins in his first 2 years there than Arizona has had the past 15 years combined. Or that he just beat the #2 team in the nation on the road. Or that he is starting a freshmen at QB and at RB. I could trot out all of his accomplishments at WV, but that would take too long. There are a lot of them there.
|1 week 4 days ago||Correction: one bad coach||
Correction: one bad coach that was hired with a sub .500 record and one coach that has been a spectacular coach everywhere he has been except for Michigan. I don't think I need to ask if you see the difference
|1 week 4 days ago||Re-writing history like||
Re-writing history like saying he forced his defensive coordinator to run a 3-3-5? Can you point to one game where we ran the 3-3-5 outside of the aforementioned Purdue game? I swear, the people who say this also say John beilein likes to run a 1-3-1 zone but he "just hasn't ever got his type of guys to do it here at Michigan."
|1 week 5 days ago||This thread is fucking awful||
This thread is fucking awful and you should feel bad about it.
|2 weeks 13 hours ago||I can think of a couple||
I can think of a couple reasons to think he won't have a great future here. And I'm not sure why you mentioned Chad henne. He started as a true freshmen, was on the all freshmen team, and had 25 touchdowns and 12 interceptions his first year.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||I see you missed the fact||
I see you missed the fact that DG was one of the best QBs in the B10 last year. I would say that makes him a good college QB.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I'm still waiting for your||
I'm still waiting for your "facts" showing Arizona's poor defense last year playing against a much better offensive conference than the B10
|2 weeks 2 days ago||The MSU game was close||
The MSU game was close because they played well in the 2nd quarter. They got outplayed in the other 3 quarters, and especially in the 2nd half. That game was as close as a 3 score game can be, but the still lost by nearly 3 touchdowns.
Injuries are part of the game. I'm pretty sure Arizona was down some starters as well. And they did all of this with a freshmen at QB and a freshmen at RB. I think it is safe to say Arizona would be competing with Nebraska, Wisky, and MSU for a rose bowl berth. My personal opinion: they are better than any team in the B10 and it isn't close.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||2 things he could do: 1.||
2 things he could do:
1. Don't say anything about running up the score
I really don't care if MSU wins by 15 touchdowns, I just find it funny he is doing exactly what he said he wasn't going to do, less than a week after he said he wasn't going to do it
|4 weeks 2 days ago||I think it's more sad that||
I think it's more sad that Max was suspended for the Rose Bowl for unspecified reasons and then lost 40 pounds in just a couple months. He must have been really, really sick. Poor guy
|5 weeks 6 days ago||I wonder who gave him the||
I wonder who gave him the keys to the football facilities where he was raping people. I guess technically he wasn't a coach anymore, but he sure had plenty of access to things people who aren't football coaches at PSU didn't have. And to think, JoePa and the administration knew enough to tell him not to bring any boys into the football facilities after that. But you're right, they did everything they could have to stop child rape. I mean, they told zero people that weren't paid by the school. Good job PSU
|6 weeks 13 hours ago||Since when is a ranked team||
Since when is a ranked team "mediocre?"