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|2 hours 7 min ago||You are essentially saying||
You are essentially saying that using high draft picks on what end up to be relievers is a great way to build a bullpen. If Dombrowski's only job was to build a bullpen, then that would be an awesome plan. It isn't though, which is why it is a pretty dumb plan.
|2 hours 11 min ago||So you wanted DD to turn||
So you wanted DD to turn Andrew Miller into bullpen help instead of trading him to get Miggy? Because that's what KC did with their highly drafted pitcher.
Building a bullpen out of failed high draft picks is Pretty fucking dumb
|6 hours 50 min ago||There is someone who trolls||
There is someone who trolls the RCMB called Nucky and everyone always says to ignore them. I don't even remember bringing that up and I'm kinda creeped out that you remember I did, but if I did, that is the reason. As I said, I don't give a fuck about joining a rival team's website simply to troll them.
And please leave the board. No one cares if you think there is intellectual dishonesty and no one cares if we make fun of MSU and OSU here. This is a Michigan board and it will be biased towards, are you ready for this, Michigan. Is it sometimes over the top? Yes. Do people go over the top in their criticism of Dantonio and Meyer? Sure. But I'm glad that you can set us straight! Ronnie to the rescue!
This board is nowhere near bucknuts or RCMB, as much as the couple posts you point to every week make you think it is. I don't deny MSU's success, I just think it's funny to watch them get pissed off when you tell them they are irrelevant. They get offended about everything and have convinced themselves that Harbaugh won't win here and he isn't a good coach. They do this because they are very afraid. The smart Spartans aren't afraid because they know Dantonio is a good coach, but the dumber ones are terrified of Michigan actually hiring a coach who is a good fit.
As I said, if you don't like shots at MSU or OSU, don't come here and have fun being a boring fan. But don't be fooled into thinking anyone here gives a shit that you think we are intellectually dishonest.
|8 hours 19 min ago||Don't you know? Ronnie is||
Don't you know? Ronnie is just out to balance out the argument for MSU. He is doing a public service by calling out people when they hate on MSU on, of all places, a Michigan website. He's a hero to us all. Without him, who would stand up for MSU and where would they go. Thank you Ronnie for getting off your high horse long enough to tell us when we are being unreasonable with regards to Dantonio and MSU.
|8 hours 49 min ago||First, no, I've never signed||
First, no, I've never signed up at RCMB. I'm not sure why you think I did. I visit there every now and then because I like to laugh at them, but trolling another fanbase is something I don't care to do.
Second, when this board's most popular thread by far is a thread about Michigan State, then you can say we are like the RCMB. Also, when we have a thread about homeless people smelling like urine and bump when your wife is a bitch, then we will be like the RCMB
|20 hours 3 min ago||And still no one cares about||
And still no one cares about them outside of east Lansing. Maybe if they stopped looking down on fans who didn't graduate from a college they'd have more of a following for their shitty football program
|20 hours 10 min ago||Well of course we've had good||
Well of course we've had good players before Ed Martin. 30 years ago. My comment was in regards to recruiting and I shouldn't have said never. I should have said it will be 20 or 30 years of this before we can recruit like Duke and Kentucky. They are blue bloods and 6 years of good basketball doesn't change that. Why anyone thinks recruits care that we competed with Duke 40 years ago is beyond me. And the thing is, we have a good enough coach that we don't need to recruit like that. Our recruiting hasn't changed much since we went to the national championship and it doesn't need to.
|22 hours 10 min ago||I was responding to someone||
I was responding to someone who said we were the dominant program before 2000. A large part of that was due to Ed Martin. We have plenty of history and I never suggested we didn't. That history means dick when we've been recently nationally relevant for all of 6 years and those national championship games you mentioned we went to happened before high schoolers were born. 6 years isn't going to turn the tides in recruiting against Duke and Kentucky and what's pathetic is acting like 2 big 10 titles and 1 final four in the past 25 years is going to change that
|1 day 1 hour ago||I was talking about||
I was talking about recruiting. Are you trying to ignore the reason we were the dominant program? We can't have it both ways. We either get another Ed Martin or miss out on top prospects.
But you do being up a great point. To be a top program every year, you either have to recruit top talent (and likely recruit dirty) or have a great coach. Michigan is going to miss on a lot more top prospects than they get. Izzo has been one of the 3 or 4 most successful coaches in college basketball the past 15 years and he still regularly loses out on top talent. It happens. That is what I meant by us not being NC or Duke or Kentucky
|1 day 2 hours ago||Supposed to be? Our starting||
Supposed to be? Our starting 5 next year could be all 4 star guys with two top 50 players if we wanted it to. Then we've got another top 100 seven-footer to go along with a top 100ish big guy who is young and could re-classify. I can't wait until our fanbase realizes we will never be Kentucky or Duke or North Carolina or even MSU. We will get a couple highly rated guys every year and then pull in a top 50 guy or two and that will be our team. Then we get a Caris type player (or three of you count last year) who will play above their ranking and we will compete year in/year out. Last year was an outlier due to the injuries that happen to have happened just after we lost 5 guys early to the NBA in just two years. If losing out on highly ranked players is going to bother you, I beg you not to follow recruiting because it will happen every year. We will miss out on booker and Blackmon and get Chapman every year. I'm just glad Beilein's backup plans can shoot nearly 50% from three or go off for 18 against MSU or start and be the most effective center, all as true freshmen.
|1 day 4 hours ago||I can neither confirm nor||
I can neither confirm nor deny that the team will be staying at the Mariott City Center. I can confirm that I tried to reserve the presidential suite there and it was not available the entire week leading up to the game, which I'm assuming means someone important will be staying there. Wink. Wink.
|1 day 7 hours ago||Unfortunately I'm still||
Unfortunately I'm still working on that. Last resort I have a couple houses rented a couple blocks from the stadium that I'll tailgate at, but I'm hoping the ridiculous amount of money I'm dropping to get married there the weekend after gets me an "in" for a tailgateing spot!
|1 day 8 hours ago||Lol. Yeah, there aren't a lot||
Lol. Yeah, there aren't a lot of other options and we are good friends with someone who's wife works there, so that is where we decided on!
|1 day 8 hours ago||They cover everything up with||
They cover everything up with pasties, so you're not too far off!
|1 day 8 hours ago||I'm responding to this so it||
I'm responding to this so it will be towards the top of this thread. The Utah ticket deartment is selling ticket packages for $300 per package (or at least they were last week...I'm not sure if they're sold out). The package includes one ticket to the Michigan, Cal, Colorado, and UCLA games. If you don't want to spend $500 or $600 per ticket, this is a good way to get to the game for only $300. I'm getting married at Rice Eccles the Saturday after the Michigan game and have been working with their operations and ticket department to get myself and the rest of the people flying in early into the game. Unless you either get very lucky or want to pay double that amount, this is going to be your only way to get into the game. Scalping at the stadium, you will probably pay around $700 or $800, so my suggestion would be to get your tickets now or be ready to drop close to a grand. Good luck MgoTicket purchasers!
|1 day 8 hours ago||Just an FYI, I'm not sure if||
Just an FYI, I'm not sure if there are any left, but the Utah ticket department was selling a 4 game package for $300. It includes Michigan, Cal, Colorado, and UCLA. This is a good way to pay only $300 for a ticket and then you can sell the other 3 tickets to try and recoup some of the money.
There will be 15 Michigan fans sitting above the Utah student section who will then be going to Trails after the game (one of the better strip clubs in Utah) for my future wife and I's bachelor/bachelorette party. We will also be tailgating before the game, so anyone is welcome to join in the festivities!
|6 days 18 hours ago||First off, 3 top 50 and a||
First off, 3 top 50 and a bunch of players outperforming their rankings is exactly what got us to the championship game and won the B10 by 3 games. I still haven't figured out why that seems to be a problem for you.
Second, last year's team was one of the youngest in the country even before their two veterans were injured and this year's team will also be one of the youngest. Even if we hit on a top guy or two, we need guys to stay for 4 years in order to be good year in year out. We don't reload like Kentucky or duke so you might as well get used to it. We will continue to have a down year when we have 5 early entrants to the NBA in a two year span. I'm guessing beilein didn't plan on starting 3 true freshmen for most of last year
|6 days 19 hours ago||If we are going by star||
If we are going by star rankings (which is what I assume you were talking about when you said beilein can't get top tier guys), then yes, they are just as talented. Two guys that were borderline 5 star talent (Robinson-McGary and Irvin-Chatman), 1 guy that is a superstar who was underrated by the services (Burke and Caris) and another two top 100 guys (Stauskas-Hardaway and Wilson-Euro guy whose name I can never remember). Also you have Walton, another top 50 player as a starter next year. So that is your starting 5 that is pretty much the exact same star ranking. Add in all the true freshmen forced to start due to injury now becoming sophomores and your team is just as talented. It isn't rocket science. I didn't even mention Donnal, who was also a fringe top 100 guy. One could argue based on rankings, this team is better.
And last year we almost had a .500 record in the B10 without our two best players. Everyone knows that not only do beilein teams get better as the season goes on, but so do true freshmen. Can you imagine what Wisconsin would have looked like without Kaminski and Hayes? How about MSU without Dawson and Trice? I bet they wouldn't have been .500 in the B10 either. I know they were 11-7 with both Walton and Caris. We also had freshmen and sophomores all over the lineup learning new roles (Irvin finding himself, Caris and Walton learning how to carry the team, etc...)
But please, keep telling us how the coaching staff doesn't care about Michigan enough when they talk to highly ranked recruits
|1 week 25 min ago||This is just fucking||
This is just fucking ridiculous and an insult to our coaches. So your gut feeling is that when it comes to really talented basketball players, our coaches just lose their passion for Michigan, but for the under-the-radar guys they sell the shit out of Michigan? I was wrong, that's not ridiculous, it's downright stupid.
See my post below. Just because we have missed on some plan A guys doesn't mean we are any farther away from the final four than we were a couple years ago. We are just as talented, if not more talented, than when we went to the championship game. Teske and Davis are both top 100 big men to go along with this kid, who will be a 4 star when everything is said and done. How is that moving farther away?
|1 week 33 min ago||New starters and no||
New starters and no legitimate big man is why he has to create his own shot. The offense looked better when he was out because it was later in the year and freshmen were playing less like freshmen and Doyle got better at the pick and roll. He will move better without the ball when his teammates learn spacing better, which they should know more now that they aren't true freshmen.
|1 week 1 hour ago||Only get under-the-radar||
Only get under-the-radar types? Huh? Our starting 5 going into next season could be as highly ranked as the one that went to the final four.
Especially at the wing? Huh? You mean like under-the-radar near 5 star wings Irvin and Chatman? How many top 50 players do you want on the team? I swear some people think we are Kentucky or Duke and then get pissed when we don't have 5 star talent coming off the bench. Our starting lineup next year could include 3 top 50 four star guard/wings (Walton, Irvin, Chatman) and two top 100ish big men (Wilson, the euro 3 point shooting big man, who could be top 50 if he were actually ranked). This doesn't include MAAR, Dawkins, Caris, and Doyle, or in other words, 3 freshman starters and a possible lottery pick that weren't as highly rated as all the other 4 and 5 star guys on the team.
|1 week 1 hour ago||Didn't Caris average just||
Didn't Caris average just under 4 assists a game before his injury? He averaged .2 assists per game less than Spike, who led the team. Yeah, what a ball hog
|1 week 8 hours ago||Good lord some people are||
Good lord some people are dicks. Complaining about what he did on the field because he didn't live up to their standards? He didn't trash the coaches or the school on the way out and what does he get? A big "fuck you" for having a good time on the football field and not returning a kick for a touchdown
|1 week 1 day ago||Name calling is the last||
Name calling is the last resort when you know you're wrong. Good job. Now tell us all how correct the Freep was and how they didn't have an axe to grind.
|1 week 1 day ago||When you look at an upset,||
When you look at an upset, you also have to look at the team that is being upset, not just the upsetter. The reason Harbaugh's Stanford upset of USC was one of the best of all time was not just because USC was really good that year, it was also because Stanford was awful. USC had a 35 game home winning streak and Stanford was coming off a 1-11 season.
The team that lost to that amazing FCS dynasty had NFL draft picks all over the roster, including 4 year starters at QB and RB to go along with 2 high draft picks at WR and possibly the best offensive lineman to come through Michigan. The team that lost to Toledo had the same record as them and was not a good football team. The Appy State loss will go down as one of the greatest upsets in college football history and the Toledo game will be remembered by no one other than RichRod haters
|1 week 1 day ago||In other words, yes, you're||
In other words, yes, you're right and the Freep was on a witch hunt. At least act like you said something dumb and realize it was ridiculous.
|1 week 1 day ago||Did you actually watch the||
Did you actually watch the talent on that team? Yes, Lloyd did leave the cupboard that damn bare, even simply from a numbers standpoint as a large chunk of his recruiting classes were not on the team before RichRod even got here.
Go read decimated defense and let me know how stocked the cupboard was
|1 week 1 day ago||And the RichRod haters still||
And the RichRod haters still somehow believing he just forgot how to coach his 3 years here.
And your analogy is shit because you implied the Freep wasn't on a witch hunt. You don't need to be part of "The Faithful" to realize they were on a witch hunt and greatly exaggerated everything in their piece
|1 week 2 days ago||It's amazing with his||
It's amazing with his inability to adapt that he's been able to be extremely successful everywhere he's coached other than Michigan. I can't believe he forgot how to coach his three years here.
Also, the fact you mentioned adapting his offense and didn't mention that he got an offense that returned one starter and the whole decimated defense tells me you might have a bit of a bias
|1 week 2 days ago||Ah, the midget WR talk that||
Ah, the midget WR talk that is ridiculous in nature and a pretty stupid point. Considering his first full recruiting class got to be redshirt sophomores and true juniors, I'm not sure how you can say he left Hoke with anything less than a question mark. It is kinda weird to think Hoke got to coach Lloyd's redshirt senior class though