You start based on talent, not seniority. And if you will remember, Beilein never put Morgan and Horford on the floor together when they were both available.
When Rose was at Michigan and playing his ass off, most of us (of age anyway) were watching and enjoying some of the most exciting living memories any college basketball fan of any school could have.
I love this mentality that "they didn't win anything" as if only the national champion should be celebrated. Is it your opinion that all Michigan football teams since 1997 are also "losers"? My guess is ... no.
You get downvoted for telling the truth, that nutjob Tater gets a 5-vote for his delusional take that "Webber made it cool to take money." MGOBOARD! YEAH!
Oswalt would be optimal when he signs in June, especially if Scherzer and Porcello struggle early with consistency as they have the last two eyars. Don't have a lot of faith in the Tigers farm system right now. All their plus players (save Verlander) in this era have come from the hot stove league or trade market.
Really lame angle to take on this. This is about a guy who was worried about HIS reputation and HIS job security so executed a (failed) cover-up. You try to turn it into a conference issue.
Wade was on NO ONE's radar at #2 that year. #5 to Miami was the highest anyone saw him going.
As for Melo, you would probably be talking about no NBA championship in Detroit in 2004 or any season after. The guy is an alpha scorer who wouldn't know how to play an unselfish role. He has never won a damn thing.
There are a ton of things to criticize Dumars about (almost all of them since 2008) but the 2003 Draft is a really unfair one.
Contrary to Brian's informant, I don't think there is anyway the advisory committee told him he was a 20-35 prospect unless they gave 30 other guys the same projection.
Never advanced past the first round and missed the playoffs twice in his five years. The fact that this was by far his most successful coaching/executive stint says a lot.
Actually, the should suck much worse than they do now. Stupid Dumars resigned Prince and Stuckey this past year when the goal should have been to tank hard.
Isiah Thomas has been a disaster in SIX post-playing ventures now (Raptors GM, CBA commish, Pacers coach, Knicks GM, Knicks coach, FIU coach). If Gores wants Isiah to be in some kind of fluff PR role, fine. But there is no reason he should get another chance to do anything significant.
Yes, it absolutely is the end of the world for us. He's the point guard.
It also raises serious questions about Beilein and his ability to recruit guys who want to be here and then re-recruit them when they are on the verge of a poor decision.
"Pimp hand." So two years ago. DB is an stuffy baritone who oozes "one percenter" and loves to take credit for a lot of things he had nothing to do with. Not sure why he is being idolized as this great man.
LeShoure probably won't be himself until 2013 (rap sheet on torn achilles is it takes almost a full year to play again and close to two years to regain your normal explosiveness). Lions really need to sign somebody to a one-year deal to plug the hole. I really don't want to hold my breath for Jahvid every time he gets the ball.
MGoBoard may be one of the only communities on the internet that respects Grantland. It has been panned left and right by fans but it seems to be held up in high esteem here. Why, I don't know.
Before Tractor died, he was the object of a lot of Brian's ire for the Ed Martin mess. Now that he's dead, suddenly Mo Taylor is everything that is wrong with the world. One of only a few reasons why this is such a chickenshit column.
Since many people on this board think Saban's old scholarship possibilities were a huge part of his success, that means those same posters will now predict Alabama will start to take a swan dive in wins now, right?
How could the AD possibly employ anyone who is friendly with Michael Rosenberg, a man who made a very clear effort to destroy the head coach of the university's most important athletic program? The fact that Bates went this long and that Scott Draper was still working during the 2010 season doesn't say much for Brandon, does it?
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Vogrich? Are you effing serious?!
You start based on talent, not seniority. And if you will remember, Beilein never put Morgan and Horford on the floor together when they were both available.
It happened. Anyone who subscribes to the childish "It never happened!" solution of the NCAA needs to grow the fuck up.
Pretty sure everyone on earth cares more about themselves than they do about their college. If you don't, you are diseased.
Oh did he?
MSC is the president, not "the school." The school is bigger than MSC and includes a lot of people who want the banners back up.
When Rose was at Michigan and playing his ass off, most of us (of age anyway) were watching and enjoying some of the most exciting living memories any college basketball fan of any school could have.
MSC was at the University of Iowa.
This explains some of the disconnect.
In what universe is Branden Dawson "healthy" as Katz says?
I love this mentality that "they didn't win anything" as if only the national champion should be celebrated. Is it your opinion that all Michigan football teams since 1997 are also "losers"? My guess is ... no.
You get downvoted for telling the truth, that nutjob Tater gets a 5-vote for his delusional take that "Webber made it cool to take money." MGOBOARD! YEAH!
Great place.
In the eyes of elitists like you, yes.
Not the question but way to be a "pandering for upvote" hero.
He lied about his high school career. Blatantly. That is the point, not about having to play the game to talk the game.
Hopefully they don't sell Junior Mints nearby.
Frank Clark looked way better than Beyer last year.
Oswalt would be optimal when he signs in June, especially if Scherzer and Porcello struggle early with consistency as they have the last two eyars. Don't have a lot of faith in the Tigers farm system right now. All their plus players (save Verlander) in this era have come from the hot stove league or trade market.
Only about a dozen years and two wars between that post and any kind of modern relevance.
Really lame angle to take on this. This is about a guy who was worried about HIS reputation and HIS job security so executed a (failed) cover-up. You try to turn it into a conference issue.
Wade was on NO ONE's radar at #2 that year. #5 to Miami was the highest anyone saw him going.
As for Melo, you would probably be talking about no NBA championship in Detroit in 2004 or any season after. The guy is an alpha scorer who wouldn't know how to play an unselfish role. He has never won a damn thing.
There are a ton of things to criticize Dumars about (almost all of them since 2008) but the 2003 Draft is a really unfair one.
Contrary to Brian's informant, I don't think there is anyway the advisory committee told him he was a 20-35 prospect unless they gave 30 other guys the same projection.
It's a forum, you crybaby. Man up.
Never advanced past the first round and missed the playoffs twice in his five years. The fact that this was by far his most successful coaching/executive stint says a lot.
Actually, the should suck much worse than they do now. Stupid Dumars resigned Prince and Stuckey this past year when the goal should have been to tank hard.
Yes.
Isiah Thomas has been a disaster in SIX post-playing ventures now (Raptors GM, CBA commish, Pacers coach, Knicks GM, Knicks coach, FIU coach). If Gores wants Isiah to be in some kind of fluff PR role, fine. But there is no reason he should get another chance to do anything significant.
Losers upvoting you. This place is a pathetic.
It's the former. Too many cases now to be a coincidence. We may have the wrong coach.
Funny!
Fuck you, loser.
You cannot be serious.
Where players get properly exploited by the dominant professional league in the sport, right?
Yes, it absolutely is the end of the world for us. He's the point guard.
It also raises serious questions about Beilein and his ability to recruit guys who want to be here and then re-recruit them when they are on the verge of a poor decision.
Odd that Zeller is seen as an easy bet to return while we have to sweat it out. AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH.
Losing Smotrycz does not "really suck" as Ace says. You're right so who cares if you get negged?
Smotrycz would have provided depth, a luxury that all the Final Four teams this season proved is not necessary to winning big in college basketball.
Not to mention it was 11 years, not 19.
"Pimp hand." So two years ago. DB is an stuffy baritone who oozes "one percenter" and loves to take credit for a lot of things he had nothing to do with. Not sure why he is being idolized as this great man.
LeShoure probably won't be himself until 2013 (rap sheet on torn achilles is it takes almost a full year to play again and close to two years to regain your normal explosiveness). Lions really need to sign somebody to a one-year deal to plug the hole. I really don't want to hold my breath for Jahvid every time he gets the ball.
MGoBoard may be one of the only communities on the internet that respects Grantland. It has been panned left and right by fans but it seems to be held up in high esteem here. Why, I don't know.
Before Tractor died, he was the object of a lot of Brian's ire for the Ed Martin mess. Now that he's dead, suddenly Mo Taylor is everything that is wrong with the world. One of only a few reasons why this is such a chickenshit column.
It's not a feel good. It's very poorly written.
What a truly ridiculous comment. I mean, seriously, read this post again. Wow.
I don't understand your post at all.
No one else does.
Meyer: "OSU's a great place for Adam. I coached Aaron Hernandez."
O'Brien: "Umm, so did I. He was my second best tight end behind Rob freaking Gronkowski."
Meyer: "Oh. . .that's right."
You are a dreadful piece of shit.
Since many people on this board think Saban's old scholarship possibilities were a huge part of his success, that means those same posters will now predict Alabama will start to take a swan dive in wins now, right?
Yeah. We'll see how that goes.
Michigan will be better next year. This is still a relatively poorly constructed roster. Next year we get SIZE.
Ridiculous suggestion.
Are the Lloyd Loyalists going to come out in force to question Bacon's accuracy on this like they did about 3&O? #delusionalsuckers
Yep. You gave RR criticism a rest. We all remember it well.
How could the AD possibly employ anyone who is friendly with Michael Rosenberg, a man who made a very clear effort to destroy the head coach of the university's most important athletic program? The fact that Bates went this long and that Scott Draper was still working during the 2010 season doesn't say much for Brandon, does it?