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|2 weeks 1 day ago||Did they?||
They have one NC in the last 30 years, and only three BCS appearances in the last 20 years. They were utterly blown out in each of those three appearances.
Based on tonight, they are definitely ahead of us as a program tho.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah, I was actually||
Student section shrank by a third. and general admission for hockey now means "get there 1.5 hours before hand or be prepared for the worst seats in the house". The scoreboard is nicer, but the end result was huge areas devoted to "disabled seating" that inevitably are never used by the disabled (only for recruits).
Meanwhile, the areana feels half empty because of the huge space allotments to luxury upper deck seating that is never filled.
Half of the hockey threads this past season were complaining about how the quality of Yost has nosedived in the past four years.
Sure, but in actuality, the only ones that matter are football, basketball, and hockey. And he has had a direct role in making two of thsoe worse (and bball is only better because the coaches and upgrades were already in place before him. I shudder to think what will happen when/if there is a coaching change for bball).
|2 weeks 1 day ago||So let's break this down||
1. Has nothing to do with being an athletic director or managing Michigan sports in the 21st century (this is the disease I have been talking about; if you played for Bo people will worship you even tho it means diddly squat anymore)
2. Regent's don't do jack beyond making sure the Uni is profitable. Michigan has been profitable for almost it's entire existance. A for effort Brandon!
3. Former CEO: See, "rips off model of business competitors and why that doesn't work in college football"
4. Being AD in and of itself doesn't mean jack. I could be hired AD tomorrow, doesn't mean I'd suddenly be qualified to run the department.
5. "Father of four". Congrats, he can procreate. So can any drunk in a bar on a friday.
6. "led U of M out of stretchgate": "didn't f-up the conversion out of the non-controversy that was stretch gate (which only existed because MICHIGAN MEN working at the freep decided that Rich Rod didn't deserve to coach at U of M)
7. "unparalled financial success": The department was profitable before him. It'll be profitbale after him. The university literally has nothing to spend that extra profit on (besides administrator pay and worthless upgrades to the facilities of non-money sports)
|2 weeks 1 day ago||You root for the team nonetheless||
It isn't their fault at the end of the day. They are mostly all top recruits who figured they'd be able to dominate their compeition. They didn't know what they were getting into.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||He attended UMich||
and even played football under Bo, thus making him a "Michigan Man" (TM) even if every action he takes indicates a soulless corporate sponge who only cares about short term profit and BRAND PROMOTION instead of what makes Michigan Michigan.
I hate, hate, hate, hate HATE the concept of a "Michigan Man" and the sooner it dies in a fire the sooner we as a program can move on.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Hmmm||
1. "renovation of Yost" slashed seat amounts (particularly in the student section" in favor of high end seats that are never filled (and these renovations were in the works before him anyway)
2. Renovation of Crisler: (also approved before he took over)
3. "countless other things for non revenues sports": Who gives a crap. No one other than the participants and familiy members of those participants cares about those sports.
Obviously Dave Brandon isn't responsible for the Oline. But he IS responsible for so much else.
And by the way, I actually didnt hate how the oline performed tonight.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||That's a joke, right?||
His claim to fame is turning Dominoes Pizza around, which he did buy copying the recipe of similar pizza chains. Customers came because Dominoes suddenly didn't taste awful.
Unfortunately, Brandon has no idea how to apply his policy of "rip off the success of the market competitors" to college football.
Michigan graduates 6,000 students per year. Let's stop pretending that one is a special snowflake and deserves deference just because one did so.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Defend your statements and offer a reubttal||
What good has Dave Brandon done other than increase "profit" margin (read, more pay for athletics administrators)?
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Cause being a man of Michigan||
has meant SOOOO much amirite?!
Our program needs to get over this disease where being associated with the program suddenly makes you God's gift to man. Dave Brandon is a joke. Jury is still out on Brady Hoke, but in year four we are getting blown out by ND.
Rich Rod was in all likelihood gonna fail cause of his inability to coach a defense, but at least that guy didn't get hired based on his tangential connection to a program that hasn't truly existed for a decade.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||All I can say is||
This better be the last I ever hear of the concept of "Michigan Man". ***k me with a stick. Our arrogance almost deserved to be punished with this. Dave Brandon can't be fired a moment too soon
|22 weeks 2 days ago||Oh yes||
One factor you don't see discussed enough is that over the past decade U of M has slowly been admitting more and more rich east coasters and less and less in-state students. And the in-state students they do admit anymore come from rich suburbs like west bloomfield and rochester hils (in-state tuition has skyrocketed and Michigan is terrible at offering grant aid).
The out of state kids havent grown up with Michigan football in their family most of the time, and even if they follow sports all their memories of Michigan football are of mediocre teams.
Because of all this, plus the skyrocketing ticket prices, many U of M students from lower income levels can't afford t ickets when they are already borrowing money for education. This means that those same disconnected rich east-coasters make up a larger percentage of the students who buy tickets, and many of them would rather get wasted outside a frat than go to the games. The sunk cost of the tickets is nothing to them; they can afford to buy and not go. If they do go, they are disinterested and spend the time socializing instead of watching the game.
|27 weeks 6 days ago||The big question for potential applicants, then||
is, to what degree is Michigan Law's slightly worse placement due to less effective placement/reputation, or to self-selection into the less sexy PI jobs?
|27 weeks 6 days ago||Michigan does okay at federal clerkships||
(Fed Clerkships using 2012 data)
Between this data set and the big law data set, the biggest takeaway is lol Gerogetown
|27 weeks 6 days ago||True true||
And I don't think either one of us would say going to a top school in those regions (or a top X school with national reach) is a bad move, particularly with a scholarship
It's all the other schools that are the problem. Florida doesn't need 12 schools. Every school in Michigan except U of M (and maybe Wayne) does a horrendous job of getting their grads any kind of job, let alone a legal one.
|27 weeks 6 days ago||I mean, it's not that Michigan isn't a good law school||
It is, and is one of 17 or so schools with national reach.
However, it does appear to be performing a tad worse than its peers in the job numbers.
|27 weeks 6 days ago||It is possible that this is true.||
However, I've met my share of big types who are equally anti-social. Sometimes more so. I don't think PI or big law people have a higher percentage of these types.
|27 weeks 6 days ago||Only 8.5% of Michigan grads got federal clerkships||
An additional 3.4 % got local or state clerkships, perhaps you saw the total number?
Gunning for dem federal clerkships is uphill sledding unless you attend a top six school in any case.
|27 weeks 6 days ago||This is objectively wrong||
Big Firm %, Class of 2012
University of Michigan: 43.3%
Anyone wondering why Harvard, Stanford, and Yale do less well than expected should know that many of their students (especially at Yale) do equally prestigious Federal Clerkships/Legal Academia/other awesome things.
Michigan really only places better than Georgetown out of the T14
|27 weeks 6 days ago||Michigan is indeed at a disadvantage for that very reason||
Most of the other schools have a large home market (NYC, Chicago, Boston, DC, SF) that they can send grads too. Michigan only has Detroit, which most U of M grads don't want to work in anyway (only 12.5% of Michigan Law grads stay in Michigan)
I've heard the law school has recently made some efforts to reform the placement office. We'll see when the new employment figures come out in April if that worked.
|27 weeks 6 days ago||When you are paying 50k a year||
being able to pay back your debt (i.e employment) is really the only figure that matters. USNWR's rankings are indeed flawed but their recent inclusion of employment numbers was a rare good move for them.
I mean, these are the top law schools in the county. They ALL get heavy scrutiny. And Michigan has lagged behind its peers in two very important catagories for several years now:
1. placement into long term, full time jobs for which a JD is required
2. placement into "big law" and federal clerkships, which are generally considered to be the most prestigious (and high paying) forms of legal employment.
|27 weeks 6 days ago||Both are pretty terrible law schools||
but Tennessee does place almost 10% more of its grads into full time, long term legal jobs, which is fairly substantial.
Not that either school is worth attending without a full ride and the desire to never work outside of Tennessee.
|27 weeks 6 days ago||Actually||
law schools are getting a deservedly bad rap because they collectively graduate 50k students per year when there are only around 25k legal job openings each year. So many law students are paying 40-50k to end up unemployed, or underemployed.
There are almost no law schools worth paying full price for outside of Harvard, Yale, and Stanford. And probably only 25 or so law schools worth attending at all.
|27 weeks 6 days ago||Its a completely warranted||
Its a completely warranted drop though. Michigan Law's employment statistics have been 12th or 13th for the past couple of years now, sadly. It's actually a bit overranked at 10th.
|51 weeks 1 day ago||yup||
and Notre Dame lost, and Central and Akron got convincingly squashed.
Akron, CMU, and UConn are now 2-12 for the year, with the two wins being squeakers over bad FCS teams. yikes.
|1 year 3 weeks ago||Debating on whether or not to try and deface the stupid thing||
Where do I pick up my torch and pitchfork?
|1 year 3 weeks ago||See, I never saw latecomers as much of a problem.||
Only once in three years have I had any arguments with people about seating, and that was because drunk frat bros misread their ticket and thought we were in their seats. And I usually would jump up into rows 15-40 on a regular basis.
|1 year 3 weeks ago||I certainly won't,||
I bet a lot of people will though. Freshman with too much time on their hands, perhaps.
|1 year 3 weeks ago||Current student, and I am not at all pumped for GA||
maybe if it was a general "let everyone in whenever" where you show up and walk in to wherever there is seating, I wouldn't mind but this whole business with the queue and wristbands is terrible.
And this is coming from a senior who pretty much never pre-gamed last year, was always in the stands by 20 minutes before the game, and has never missed a game and only left early once.
In the past I knew I could start walking down to the stadium 4o minutes before the game and be in my seat before the band took the field, and I could use the morning to get some crucial studying done. Now I am going to have to show up hours before hand just to get halfway decent spots.
This won't solve the sparseness of the upper levels of the student section, not with the way they've jacked up the prices from 26 dollars per ticket when I was a freshman to 40 dollars per ticket today. The people who only came because its a social event just didn't buy tickets this year, as we saw by the fact that the studen allotment didn't sell out.
Shrinking the student section would have been better. What we currently have just punishes those of us who have always been loyal fans, but don't have 4 hours to kill sitting in a queue on a saturday morning/early after noon on top of the 4 hours already dedicated to watching the game.
|1 year 13 weeks ago||Sadly, overcrowded dorm rooms are NOT a thing of the past||
North Quad opened, it's true, but that only added about 400 beds; its a relatively small dorm despite its size (lot of academic space in that building.
In addition, Baits I closed down for good due to problems with the infrastructure, removing 571 beds.
IN ADDITION, the University is going through a series of dorm renovations right now, meaning that for the near future at least one dorm will be closed per year. Last year it was East Quad, next year it will be South Quad, year after that West Quad, and I think they are doing Markley after that.
The university is so squeezed for dorm space that they actually flipped housing priority; whereas in the past Seniors chose before Juniors, who chose before sophomores, ect, now the freshman are assigned first, then the sophomores pick, THEN the juniors and seniors. It is almost impossible now to get housing as an upperclassmen. This isn't THAT bad, as most upperclassmen didn't live in dorms anyway, but it still sorta sucks that the current upperclassmen get hit with both reversed housing priority AND general admission to football, hockey, and basketball.
|1 year 19 weeks ago||Did Marcus Allen have a Michigan offer or not?||
Rivals says he has one, but none of the other three services do (scout pointedly says he does not), and I can't find anything about him in regards to Michigan recruiting here or anywhere else