eerily on point
|11 hours 34 min ago||Harbaugh effect. We've taken||
We've taken a lot more under the radar types on D.
|11 hours 36 min ago||Yep of course since he is||
Yep of course since he is ours we will applaud the video. When the kicker committed to PSU in similar fashion he was denounced by most of the board.
We all live in glass houses ;)
|11 hours 37 min ago||I am happy with the commit||
I am happy with the commit but my only worry is Urban backed away from Green for other RBs a few yrs back and we were all giddy we "stole him" from Urban and we see how Green compares to say an Elliott. That said Harbaugh is not Hoke but it will be curious to see how he turns out vs the guys OSU had higher on their board.
|11 hours 54 min ago||Minnesota lost its 2 star||
Minnesota lost its 2 star players on offense. Their QB is junk. They don't have the depth just to replace players at this point. The hype around Minn right now reminds me of the hype of the last great coaching phenom in the Big 10 - Fitzgerald - after Northwestern's 10 win season. You know what followed.
I would be selling their stock this year but buy it for your 401k this December after the glow wears off. I think after TCU decimates them people will come to reality - this is a roster with 1 whole 4 star on it. They do have a great secondary.
|18 hours 16 min ago||(No subject)|
|2 days 12 hours ago||Agreed. Hoke sounds like he||
Agreed. Hoke sounds like he thinks everything was very close and if not for a few key turnovers last year and a few young players he had to play, it would have been 10 win year and this year would have been special blah blah. Delusional for a team who couldn't put 11 guys on the field for ST, and whose arch rival won the NC with a ton of young guys...
Hoke has 14 million reasons to love Brandon. He set up 3-4 generations of his family.
|2 days 12 hours ago||Bingo. Hard to move the||
Bingo. Hard to move the puppet around to take the arrows when you don't have a puppet. He needed a fall guy - CEO 101.
|2 days 12 hours ago||Agree with Seth on Maryland||
Agree with Seth on Maryland and PSU (well I know he read my previews which said I'd buy stock in PSU this year, and sell it in Maryland). PSU this year is what we hoped UM would be last year - you ask the defense to be excellent and you expect the OL to go from disaster to meh. And you expect your all everything high rated QB to perform as a 3rd-ish year starter. They were uber young at offensive skill positions last year to boot so all those guys come back with experience. Easy schedule gets them to 6-0 early as well, unless someone like Temple upsets them.
One point early on for Seth - Cox was a S last year for MSU not a beaten out CB who a shaky Hicks passed. He is transitioning to CB this year.
I laughed at Will Gholston...
|2 days 14 hours ago||He has built a program that||
He has built a program that has staying power ... as long as he remains I agree. As we saw here and see all over the country, if the next hire is wrong you can undo 40 years of good work in 1-2 years. Forget 7 years of good work. Alvarez on the other hand built a program with staying power and more importantly has an eye for coaching talent. The next hire for MSU will determine if they are going to be Wisconsin or not.
All that said, he took a tire fire and changed the culture 180 which is impressive. Unfortunately.
Don't think Urban has done anything Saban didn't do. OSU is playing in a shit conf compared to Bama. If Bama has an off week it generally will lose or come close to an Auburn, LSU, (not last year's version) Florida, Georgia. If OSU has an off weak it still beats Iowa, Minn, (recent vintage) PSU, (recent vintage) UM, Wisc 8 out of 10 times.
I also will give huge props to Urban's OL coach - he had to rebuild that elite 2013 unit from near scratch and by mid season it was dominating a very good MSU front 7. Meanwhile we Funked around for 4 years.
|3 days 8 hours ago||Plenty of great college wrs||
Plenty of great college wrs out there without NFL bodies or being speed demon. Tyler Lockett anyone? Jeremy Gallon?
|3 days 8 hours ago||Depends on how you feel he||
Depends on how you feel he played at Stanford. He had a good defense around him with a NFL CB on the other side of the field. So lots of support and a defense that got to the QB better than UM. Yet couldnt stick around as a starter.
|3 days 8 hours ago||Not talking this year - I am||
Not talking this year - I am speaking in general. I am not even sure we have 5 CBs Id trust putting out there at CB right now to face a Baylor offense. Same for next year.
|3 days 13 hours ago||If he can become Taysom Hill||
If he can become Taysom Hill you want him at QB.
|3 days 13 hours ago||After Lewis there are just as||
After Lewis there are just as many unknowns @ CB as their are @ wide out after Darboh. Esp with the talk of Lyons getting beat out thus far (dude lost his job at Stanford).
|3 days 13 hours ago||Say Lewis gets hurt. Who are||
Say Lewis gets hurt. Who are your corners if they dont move Peppers over?
Stribling who has yet to do anything, Lyons who looks like he is getting beaten out for 1st string and lost his job at Stanford, Clark who was a safety last year and is a project, and Watson. Washington is green as hell and will redshirt.
Meanwhile if Darboh goes down what are your options @ Wr. Plenty more.
Canteen provides depth and gives you a sightline if he develops to a starter in 2 years once all our upperclassmen are gone. We have no young depth there - Watson and Washington are the only 2. With injuries you need 5 CBs nowadays. And if you play Baylor or Oregon you need 6.
|3 days 13 hours ago||Plus our 2016 offensive||
Plus our 2016 offensive commits are a lot more highly ranked then the defensive ones. Esp the DBs where we basically have a guy from Canada, the backfield of Flanigan HS and a 3 star from Maryland. Compared to say a Brad Hawkins those are way more hit or miss prospects. If Mitchell comes in you have another top 100 type talent on top of Cole this year. The corners are not that pedigree.
|3 days 13 hours ago||Long term we have more needs||
Long term we have more needs at CB than Wr - Lyons is gone after this year and Lewis after 2. So is Stribling. Peppers if he is anywhere near the hype is gone in 2 (even if he is a S not CB) Clark is an experiment. The only 15 CB is a project in Washington. That leaves Watson and Washington in 2 years.
We have plenty of Wr options 2 years down the road..
We only had 4 - count em - 4 defensive players in the last class. 4. That is almost 1/3rd of a normal defensive take in a single class. In 2 years (14 and 15 combined) we only had 13 defensive players total. That is half what OSU and MSU took in those 2 classes. So we're essentially missing a class of defensive players.
On top of that Harbaugh has pulled some defensive guys to offense i.e. Poggis, Winoviches. We need underclassmen defensive players period.
|3 days 16 hours ago||He lost his starting job last||
He lost his starting job last year too. And that was with a better defense that prob hid his issues better than the guys in our secondary. Not sure why a guy who was displaced by a younger player at Stanford not able to win the job here is a surprise. Some guys just reach a ceiling.
|3 days 16 hours ago||Canteen - like Norfleet was||
Canteen - like Norfleet was massively hyped on this site due to "jungle beats" and 3 weeks spring hype from a bunch of practices almost no one saw.
Dude was a true freshman who if did not have "fancy footwork youtube video" or 2 weeks of hype would have done what almost every freshmam Wr not in the top 50 is expected to do - redshirt and be seen in year 2 or 3.
The average UM fan has no idea who Freddy Canteen is - he was not a Green or Peppers or heck Kalis level recruit. People on this blog do, due to the hype we give to 3-4 players every year based on little.
Going farther back then that if we had a competent staff who developed players we'd have counted on DeMario Jones and Jaron Dukes to support Funchess and Chesson and Darboh not praying for a freshman to show up and do it Treadwell style.
I think you can see a player's path end of year 2 (non lineman) or year 3 (lineman). Not going to judge a true freshman who was way undersized for not performing for a sad sack staff.
|3 days 16 hours ago||Harbaugh was way too unproven||
Harbaugh was way too unproven in 2008. It is easy to reverse engineer but he was not even an on the radar guy at that point after 1 year @ Stanford.
|3 days 16 hours ago||That seems like a lot of key||
That seems like a lot of key guys sitting out. I know it is a physical sport but it seems since Carr left this team has lots of injuries almost every year (2011 was an exception). Still bummed the S&C coach from Stanford who reduced their injury rate by something ridiculous like 60% didn't flip to Harbaugh.
Please Lewis dont be seriously hurt.
|4 days 9 hours ago||No. But we do assume people||
No. But we do assume people who are forced to change names every 6-9 months don't have any credibility to begin with.
|4 days 9 hours ago||Aside from the injuries this||
Aside from the injuries this kid will have played 1/2 of a season in the past 3 years when he arrives here. That is very tough. Tough enough to make the jump from HS to college but he will be basically going from 9th grade to college with 1/2 year experience in between.
|4 days 19 hours ago||I can't speak to all the Big||
I can't speak to all the Big 10 QBs UM plays but I watched a few Purdue games and liked Appleby as a prospect. He just is not surrounded by much talent.
I'd rank the "scary factor" of the QBs on our schedule like this
Then everyone else
|6 days 5 hours ago||Did you go to the game?||
Did you go to the game?
|6 days 16 hours ago||I am not married but I can||
I am not married but I can see the appeal for it esp for men.
I am not saying cheating is right thing to do - just giving you insight on a few of many reasons people do it. All of these reasons of course have to supersede the logic part of your brain that tells you it is wrong - but often other parts of our brain dominate for periods of time.
|6 days 16 hours ago||As a person who is sometimes||
As a person who is sometimes rudley blunt but honest to a fault I have always wondered how people who scheme every facet of their life act and think like because it is just not my way of life. This excerpt helps me understand.
|6 days 16 hours ago||Maryland is not good. They||
Maryland is not good. They were destroyed by the 3 real teams they played last year (Wisc, OSU, MSU) - they were basically UM level last year with Hoke and then lost almost all their NFL talent but 1 great corner.
|1 week 12 hours ago||Thank you for doing this.||
Thank you for doing this. This was a niche sorely missing on the site.
|1 week 20 hours ago||I think most would be ok with||
I think most would be ok with seeing the helmet in chrome or matte. Just not changing the design or colors.
|1 week 1 day ago||Maryland has about 2 NFL||
Maryland has about 2 NFL talents on it right now. They will be lucky to win 5 games. A harbaugh led team should win that game even if played in Siberia.
|1 week 1 day ago||Simple offense not at||
Simple offense not at Michigan? You must have missed all of last August when all the talk was of simplying the offense due to all the youth everywhere outside of Funchess and Gardner and Butt. Both played in simple offenses. One showed basic competency.
|1 week 1 day ago||This should go well...||
This should go well...
|1 week 1 day ago||Gardner was a lot less||
Gardner was a lot less explosive last year - either by design (dont turn the ball over as much) or injuries. He was getting the edge often in 2013 but OLBs were beating him there in 2014.
Funchess was explosive for a few weeks and then was mailing it in a lot other weeks.
We do game threads every Sat where a few of us liveblog quite a few nationally prominent games Sat evenings and the reoccurring them in those every week was "wow look at how fast ABC team plays.... " or "holy smoke look how explosive that (insert skill player here) is." And I am talking teams like ASU - not just Oregon or FSU or whatever. ASU v ND looked like a track meet last year.
When you watched a UM game last year it looked like a team in quicksand. (M00N, Maryland, PSU) How much of that is lack of athleticism and how much is a poorly prepared team -we'll soon know.
|1 week 1 day ago||BTN Bus Tour #Wolverines JH||
|1 week 1 day ago||If Vernon Adams can pick up||
If Vernon Adams can pick up enough of that offense in 3 weeks it will be a great game. He was a hell of a FCS QB. Has all the experience you could ask for - just undersized.
Oregon has ridiculous playmakers all over the wide receiver core and one of the most explosive running backs in the country. We keep talking about lack of explosive players for us on offense - Oregon is 180 degrees from that. They just need the QB to deliver the ball. You need to have 4-5 truly good CBs to play the Oregon's and Baylor's - MSU is starting with 2 new starters there. Not ideal.
That defense will get hit in the secondary (game 2) and I expect MSU to score a lot as well on Oregon. I see it as a very even game as long as Adams is up to snuff.
|1 week 1 day ago||BTN Bus Tour #Wolverines||
Sensing a theme here - even the Fred Jackson of BTN commentators need to squint to find explosion on offense.
|1 week 1 day ago||BTN Bus Tour #Wolverines As||
|1 week 1 day ago||After the first 10 tweets or||
After the first 10 tweets or so he is responding to questions ... I skipped the most dumb ones like "Spartans are shaking in their boots now right Tom???"
|1 week 1 day ago||BTN Bus Tour Stop 8||
|1 week 1 day ago||Unfort Dienhart is wasting||
Unfort Dienhart is wasting time answering some very stupid chest beating by silly UM fans.
|1 week 1 day ago||Joel Klatt and Gus Johnson of||
Joel Klatt and Gus Johnson of FOX Sports watched practice. The duo had just been at Utah watching the Utes, whom Michigan visits in the opener. “Utah is physical and well-coached,” Klatt told me. “It will be a good test.”
|1 week 1 day ago||More Morris - just parroting||
More Morris - just parroting what every college analyst in the country will say
|1 week 1 day ago||How does UM compare to||
How does UM compare to MSU.
|1 week 1 day ago||Dinardo strangely quiet - by||
Dinardo strangely quiet - by the time he does his tweets though we'll be beating the Seahawks if matched head to head.
|1 week 1 day ago||D-line? Good group -||
|1 week 1 day ago||Did Peppers do||
Did Peppers do offense?
|1 week 1 day ago||On Isaac Big - man he has||
|1 week 1 day ago||Parroting what everyone||
Parroting what everyone says
|1 week 1 day ago||On Drake Harris That's a||
On Drake Harris
|1 week 1 day ago||On running backs - supports||
On running backs - supports whispers no one is pulling ahead.
|1 week 1 day ago||As expected - most hope for a||
As expected - most hope for a guy weve never seen in college do it i.e. Cole or Harris. We'll be methodical.
|1 week 1 day ago||On TEs not mentioned... Did||
On TEs not mentioned...
|1 week 1 day ago||on Gentry Tall. Clearly has||
|1 week 1 day ago||Alleluiah goes here. It's||
Alleluiah goes here.
|1 week 1 day ago||Or Blake needs more time than||
Or Blake needs more time than a normal QB to punt the balls to these wide receivers...
|1 week 1 day ago||All of your TEs...TE could||
All of your TEs...
Shocking takeaway - Williams can catch...
|1 week 1 day ago||Only takeaway thus far is||
Only takeaway thus far is Blake Bars has surfaced from Funk's purgatory and the hype about Perry being a contributor in yr 1 seems to be seconded. Wish they had something about the backup OL aside from Bars - I really would have liked to see Kugler impressing by now (year 3 in the program). Dawson too.
|1 week 1 day ago||PK remains up in the air -||
|1 week 1 day ago||RB - lots of good well-known||
|1 week 1 day ago||No real surprises on OL -||
|1 week 1 day ago||WR looks to be about what it||
|1 week 1 day ago||Harbaugh is incredibly||
|1 week 1 day ago||Their top 3 Wrs are much more||
Their top 3 Wrs are much more proven then ours - Burbridge, Kings, Shelton. Esp the first 2.
I agree their rbs are not proven. They are very high on LJ Scott so we'll see - our histoy with high ranked rbs has really sucked of late so it would be par for the course that theirs walks in and produces.
|1 week 1 day ago||"Michigan is far more||
"Michigan is far more talented than Utah"
I dont believe that.
Utah was 9-4 last year with a mediocre QB, and played in a better conf - I believe their division is the 2nd best in CFB (P-12 South).
Do we get way more "starz" out of HS? Yes. I think the 2 teams have very similar talent at this point. They always have a strong D and a strong special teams - their annual variable is their offense and this year they should have a stud rb.
|1 week 1 day ago||How many binders did this||
How many binders did this require? We are in a new era of competition on all things and I think you and WD can push each other to be better. But if your binder count is below 30 you really need to rethink things.
|1 week 1 day ago||Pac 12: 9 teams over 3300||
Pac 12: 9 teams over 3300 yds in the air. Crap teams like WSU and Cal >4000. 5 teams over 3800.
Passing Yards LEADERS
Big 10: 2 teams over 3300 yds in the air. Not a single one over 3800 (Pac 12 had 5!)
4 teams in the conf didnt even make it to 2200!! One being us.
Passing Yards LEADERS
Big 10's 3rd best passing offense would not even be top 10 in Pac 12...and they only have 12 teams.
Apples and oranges. This is why I say Big 10 defenses are overrated statistically nationally -they play some of the saddest offenses in the P5 for the bulk of their season.
|1 week 1 day ago||Yep you simply cannot compare||
Yep you simply cannot compare the 2 leagues like that. Gary Nova would be laughed at in the Pac 12. In the Big 10 he was the 4th best statistical QB. Kevin Hogan would be worshiped in the Big 10 as a great QB - he is bottom third in the Pac 12. Big 10 defenses faced an array of horrid QBs who had 53% completion rates or potentially good QBs (Hack, Gardner) who stunk to high heaven last yr.
There were 2 Big 10 defenses in the West division who skipped OSU and MSU andthus did not play a single top 30 offense in the country the entire season. Meanwhile a crap team like Cal can put up 500-600 yards on you in any game.
Put another way - even the worse teams in the Pac 12 can play like Indiana when Kevin Wilson has that offense running. The only 2 teams in the entire Pac 12 who play like Big 10 teams are Stanford and Utah. So if you are Utah and dont play Stanford you dont have a single game you play an offense that populates 90% of the Big 10.
Utah won via special teams and defense last year. IMO their defense would have been "2ndish" best in the Big 10 in 2014 if they played here.
|1 week 2 days ago||checkmate||
|1 week 2 days ago||Yes, we are all rah rah about||
Yes, we are all rah rah about this because the team looked so soft but plenty of "tough" teams out there are "pampered" and winning big the past decade. This is 1 extreme that is not common in CFB. I am curious if this will be a 1 year thing to "cleanse" the place of previous regime or ongoing. If ongoing there is a certain % of high end recruits that wont sniff here if this is the case (and no they are not soft, it is just very atypical in this day and age) and before everyone says "we dont want them" - again, plenty of programs play tough as nails without resorting to boot camp conditions.
I will be curious if they do this next year. Also the food thing I dont get - it doesnt have to be 5 star but these guys need to maintain weight and if you dont like the food you eat that is hard to do. Maybe the HS coach is exaggerating a bit - it makes it sound like there is 1 choice at every meal.
|1 week 2 days ago||If Fred Jackson is on a panel||
If Fred Jackson is on a panel with DiNardo our minds will be blown....
|1 week 2 days ago||Yep also missing West||
Yep also missing West Bloomfield and Birmingham.
|1 week 2 days ago||Elite coaches dont need 5-6||
Elite coaches dont need 5-6 years.
Utah before Urban and with.
LSU before Saban
LSU with Saban
Bama before Saban and with
Florida before Spurrier...then with Spurrier
The formatting for Oklahoma wikipedia page is wacky but the 4 years before Stoops showed up they were 3-8, 4-8, 5-6, 7-5. He had a NC in year 2, followed by three 2 loss seasons immediately after. Same thing Hoke could have done if he was any good.
Ask Bo about waiting 5-6 years for high level success. Yes diff era but all the guys higher up in this post were in the same era as Hoke.
Elite coaches have their mediocre teams - full of 5-6-7 win years before they show up, humming by year 3 at most. Bama, LSU, Florida, Utah, Oklahoma were all in the same position or worse than what Hoke inherited. He is making excuses.
|1 week 2 days ago||Some days I wish Hoke had a||
Some days I wish Hoke had a Mgoblog account so I could downvote him.
|1 week 2 days ago||Finally found the 1 guy who||
Finally found the 1 guy who still uses IE by choice rather than due to workplace requirement. Thought it would be a 70 year old not a 20 year old.
|1 week 3 days ago||Heisman trophy winner and 2||
Heisman trophy winner and 2 year starter Victor Viramontes (the "non Mormon Taysom Hill!") passing to TE Gentry for the game winning score in the NC game in 2019 is going to be cool.
|1 week 3 days ago||I've never seen the word||
I've never seen the word dapped ever written in any piece I've read in my life so kudos there.
|1 week 3 days ago||Read up on Harbaugh's history||
Read up on Harbaugh's history at Stanford.
|1 week 3 days ago||Arkansas prob would have won||
Arkansas prob would have won the Big 10 west (or SEC East) last year but finished something like 5th in their own division. Very smash mouth defense and offense in Wisconsin vein. They do need their QB to step up this year - the main missing piece (hey just like Wisconsin most years). Unfort they just lost their top RB to injury for quite a while but they probably have a stable of them (hey just like Wisconsin).
|1 week 4 days ago||Tell me more about this||
Tell me more about this concept "full at QB"...
|1 week 4 days ago||He hasnt gained much weight||
He hasnt gained much weight at all so my hopes for him as an OLB seem gone. He needed to be 205ish this year to have a real shot to train there and start in 2016. So he seems like a career backup for now unfort as I expect Hill and Peppers to start at S in 16.
|1 week 4 days ago||Yep, been noting this for 6||
Yep, been noting this for 6 months.
The entire D is going to be very young in 2017 - I dont think people are yet grasping what a 4 person defensive recruiting class (2015) does down the line - creates some of those donut holes we saw in the OL past few years. (donut hole = a senior backed up by a rs fr etc) We didnt get a single LB in last class, we didnt get a single DT. We got 2 whole secondary players (one sort of a project in a Stribling way in Washington).
And 2014+2015 combined we landed half the # of defensive recruits OSU and MSU did (they got mid 20s) so they have way more room for error....we need almost every kid in 14 and 15 to be a hit - which is not going to happen. So a lot of guys from class of 16 and some true freshman in 17 will be playing significant minutes in 2 yrs.
Post 2016 the bulk of this defense is gone. The LBs in 2016 are a big issue. DTs in 2017 right now are Mone, Hurst and whatever we get in the 2016 class - the 2016 DTs need to be able to play and be very good within 1 year of being on campus.
The secondary is not quite so dire but we lose just about every familiar name and if Peppers goes pro early the 2017 DBs are Washington (not a sure thing prospect), Kinnel, Watson, and IDK backed up by a lot of IDKs.
Hopefully the O'Korn/Gentry offense is in full gear by 2017 because they are going to be needed. Youth is going to be served and Durkin really tested that year if he is still around.
|1 week 4 days ago||Diff S&C coach though. The||
Diff S&C coach though. The one we wanted from Stanford is supposedly very innovative but he reamained there.
|1 week 5 days ago||I didnt do it for MSU because||
I didnt do it for MSU because there is just too much butt hurt when you give MSU props for anything on this website. I did do it for every other matchup.
Generally speaking I'd give MSU most of the advantages except for run offense vs UM's rush defense.
I am more worried about the pass defense because we dont have any real pass threat from the outside that is established - all we have is potential and then counting on guys who were part timers and aside from Lewis we dont have an established guy in the secondary IMO who is a difference maker. Wilson is servicable and Peppers is all potential at this point. Lyons was crushed by Cook 2 years ago in the Rose Bowl - he is a decent veteran but nothing I am too excited about. And if either Lewis or Lyons go down you go back to a lot of questions (my assumption is Delano Hill takes over for Peppers at S and Peppers goes outside at corner but I dont know). Maybe Brandon Watson will be a player this year. Just a lot of questions for UM in the pass defense IMO. And MSU has stellar pass protect and a NFL prospect at QB. And a TE as good as Butt.
While MSU has some new faces at corner until UM shows it has a legit passing game with legit receivers we have just as many questions starting with no idea who the QB is, no idea who the primary WR is (I guess Darboh but who knows) and no idea who a secondary WR crew would include - everyone is just guessing. They just have to guess on 1 corner.....and even without Ed Davis they will have one of the best pass rushes in the league.
I do see with this preview that the matchups generate the most comments - never thought PSU would get 50 more comments than MSU but maybe it's quiet confidence of UM fans. ;)
|1 week 5 days ago||Jourdan Lewis and his 7 INTs.||
Jourdan Lewis and his 7 INTs.
|1 week 5 days ago||He was the 414th ranked||
He was the 414th ranked player which is a very high 3 star. Maybe in the context of why take 6 OL I guess but within a vacuum its the type of ranking that goes on to be a front line starter at plenty of schools.
But now half the OL class is gone.
Throw in guys like Ross Douglas, D'Mario Jones, Cstonte York, Reon Dawson, Jaron dukes an almost that entire bottom half of class are guys who are projecting to be duds or non contributors. Unless Stribling or Hill make a serious impact its really nothing outside the "top 300" guys in the country in that class that are going to help.
Not many diamonds in the rough in 2013 class but according to Hoke he developed Mike Martin in his 1 year here so no worries. Player developmen was never an issue.
|1 week 5 days ago||nm||
nm-thought he had flipped to DT for some reason.
|1 week 5 days ago||nm||
nm - thought he had flipped to DT for some reason.
|1 week 5 days ago||It's pretty difficult to get||
It's pretty difficult to get a degree at UM in 2 years.
|1 week 6 days ago||I cant even measure how||
I cant even measure how depressed I'd be if this guy was still our coach. Its laughable comparing himself to Dantonio - he had top 10-15 classes and was able to piss out money out the wazoo to hire good coaches and hired a bunch of crap coaches that almost no div 1 program wanted once they were let go. By year 4 Dantonios' team were at least good at something. And were tough.
I am tired of Brady Hoke. Sorry. Go disappear for 4 years and resurface then and talk about your good times - maybe by then I'll recover from the sad disorganized teams you put out.
|1 week 6 days ago||His UCLA career was just one||
His UCLA career was just one big puff of smoke.
/I'll let myself out
|2 weeks 14 hours ago||This used to be a thread on||
This used to be a thread on MSu boards for years on end. Except it would be "6-6 and beat Michigan or 9-3 and lose to them". I hate how roles have reversed.
|2 weeks 15 hours ago||It is the 1 position we could||
It is the 1 position we could take a hit but still damn. And when 300+ lb men go thru any serious injury I start to get worried about what they will be when they get back - see Fox and Pipkins recently (yes those were ACLs but still).
|2 weeks 20 hours ago||It's sad to say but western||
It's sad to say but western michigan will probably be the 4th or 5th best offense they face all year. It's a benefit all Big 10 defenses get - a lot of sad sack offenses. Only MSU and OSU last year were top 20 and only Wisconsin joined then in the top 40. The Pac 12 had like 7 offenses in the top 30. Big 12 something like 5. etc.
|2 weeks 22 hours ago||WMU will score on MSU - they||
WMU will score on MSU - they have a legit potential NFL wr and a QB that would probably be 4th best in the Big 10 (sadly). They have a good rb too. Issue is their defense will give up pts like mad too.
This is one of those games that WMU will make some noise but their D will just kill them as will the line play. But if you just match up offensive skill players WMU has them. I see this something like 45-24.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Per Mike Wilson Chris Frey||
Per Mike Wilson
|2 weeks 1 day ago||And their offense went from||
And their offense went from ho hum in 2013 to top 15 in 2014 to compensate. Its a pretty balanced team now... the 2013 squad was all about elite defense definitely. I think they are realistic from their comments they are not going to be holding elite spread offenses to 20 pts a game and opened up their offense once they had a capable QB.
Again I say this on every MSu thread - their D is built for big 10 offenses with a load of mediocre QBs and offenses that are so run based. It could not work in the Pac 12 for example where even crap teams like Wash State or Cal have system Qbs or top level QBs and can put up 400 in the air in any game. Think it would get exposed in the Big 12 as well.
ACC and Big 10? Built for those.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Not sure how flexible their||
Not sure how flexible their MLBs are to swing outside but they have Shane Jones (one of their high recruits) backing up Bullough at MLB...then yet another Bullough behind him, then Jon reschke. Those 3 are younger rs so types but that is about the age MSU starts getting guys going as serious backups or starters (year 3 in the system).
If they dont believe any single of those 3 backups can flip outside its probably going to be Chris Frey who UM fans will remember for getting kicked out of last year's game. So a big drop off in experience of course in that case. But a guy like Bullough can usually play in or out. The younger 2 Bulloughs supposedly are much more athletic than Max.
EDIT - I forgot they signed Drake Martinez this offseaso as a JUCO and will play him as OLB. That is Neb QB brother. So very fortunate signing now in retrospect.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||OSU Oregon Baylor exposed||
OSU Oregon Baylor exposed every D in the nation. Kind of an unfair bar. Not sure I can name a D that would hold any of those offenses below 35 on the regular.
They dominated average to poor offenses which is 75% of their schedule. And exposed vs elite ones - just like any defense in the country. Those were 3 of the top 7-8 offenses in the country.
2013 D was better because you had 2 NFL 1st round corners man it. That helps. But if they had played Oregon instead of Stanford in the bowl youd have seen more fireworks. You can only do so much vs elite offenses.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Just wrote in my MSU preview||
Just wrote in my MSU preview in diaries that MSU has not suffered a significant injury in 2 years. It's been a couple 3rd down only linebackers and a 6th/5th type of OL - considering their style of play you'd think they'd suffer a lot more. Reversion to mean was likely. Looks like it did today.
They do have some depth at LB however and Ed Davis normally plays like Superman vs UM and then looks like an above average but not Lawrence Taylor in his prime vs other teams. So we probably have a diff view than others.
Will be interesting to see if he comes back for his 6th year.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||It is probably higher in a||
It is probably higher in a Brady Hoke regime than a Jim Harbaugh regime. To that end Harbaugh has more commits from SEC footprint in this class alone than Hoke had in 4 years combined. So it is difficult to recruit Michigan hard, recruit OH hard, recruit Jersey hard, and recruit TX, FL, and CA hard unless you are going to recruit like Tennessee and cram 40 kids into a class.
7 kids from OH would be 1/3rd of every class. Assuming 6-8 are from MI that only leaves a third for the rest of the country. And we seem to be going to try for 2-4 from Jersey alone every class now so you only have so many spots. Esp if you are serious about pulling a good amount of kids from the south.
Maybe 3-4 is off a bit but the larger point is 2016 is an outlier and I expect us to get back to OH although probably not at quite the level of recent past as Harbaugh has a broader footprint he seems to be wanting. As does Urban v Tressel.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||This guy keeps trying to tell||
This guy keeps trying to tell them that...
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Will the program ever recover||
Will the program ever recover from this if true?
|2 weeks 2 days ago||(a) MSU is not going anywhere||
(a) MSU is not going anywhere until Dantonio retires. It doesn't mean 11 win seasons all the time because that is difficult for any program but they will be a well above average team until he leaves.
(b) 2016 wont be a typical year of recruiting Ohio. Most of the top guys went to ND and OSU. OSU was coming off a NC. UM has sucked for the better part of these kids lives. MSU has back to back top 5 finishes with a staff that coached all over Ohio. So UM was way behind the ball.
I do expect UM to get their normal 3-4 kids from Ohio and MSU to also continue to get 3-4 kids from Ohio - the question is will they be going for the same kids. Prior to 2 years ago MSU was battling Kentucky for those recruits in the 20s and 30s. Now they are battling a bit higher up the food chain. Where UM usually plucks guys.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Preseason he was top 15ish in||
Preseason he was top 15ish in the draft - he fell into the 2nd round in most mocks and apparently the NFL advisory board.
2 years ago he was the beneficiery of a great defense creating a ton of turnovers that he was johnny on the spot and picked up and ran back for TDs. Last year those fortunate bounces didnt go into his hands so his "production" fell off a bit. Also I think the OSU game and Oregon game exposed some deficiencies - Marcus Rush had a far better game vs Oregon for example.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Since the late 1960s Michigan||
Since the late 1960s Michigan has been famous for allowing a ton of media access to its football compound.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Had to even claim Wilson as||
Hard to even claim Wilson as Big 10 for his 1 whole year here but this is the last decade of Big 10 QBs drafted in any round. SEC far superior.
A decent SEC guy like Aaron Murray was better than almost all these guys.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Disagree on your SEC QB||
Disagree on your SEC QB comment. I dont think they are near the Pac 12 where it seems a lot of QBs come out of but last year Gary Nova was the 3rd best Big 10 QB if you put all the OSU QBs as 1. Hackenberg was as bad as Devin Gardner last year.
Going back 20 years or so there has not been a 1st round pick in the Big 10 since Kerry Collins - that will finally change this year. Only Michigan was producing NFL calibar QBs for a long time except for a guy here or there like Brees and Stanton. It's been garbage for a decade- this year is a complete anomaly.
Since the infamous Big Ten quarterback draft of 2004 - when OSU's Craig Krenzel, Wisconsin's Jim Sorgi, Michigan State's Jeff Smoker and Michigan's John Navarre dominated rounds five through seven of the draft - there have been 110 quarterbacks taken in the nine ensuing drafts. Just nine of them - or 8 percent -were from the Big Ten.
Hate Tebow all you want but great college QB. Manziel. Matt Stafford, Was McCarron a system QB? maybe but his last year was better than all but prob 5-6 seasons in the past decade of anyone in the Big 10. Cam Newton was pretty good last I checked. Eli Manning - half decent. Tim Couch was a bust in the NFL but a good QB at a crap program. Same for Grossman.
The last 5-6 years of Big 10 Qbs has been horrible. Last year you had guys like Tommy Armstrong Jr, Trevor Siemian, Mitch Leidner, CJ Brown as your "middle of the pack" Big 10 QBs.... garbage.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I am old so lots of people||
I am old so lots of people here wont know these guys, but I liked Scott Skiles and Jimmy Jackson back from the 80s/90s (MSU/OSU). Couldnt hate on them - Skiles gave you everything he had despite limited athleticism (hey that's racist!) and Jackson was just smooth.
Spielman is another - heart and soul of Lions defenses and took every loss personal.
Cant believe someone picked Draymond Green - yuck.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||First world problems. I'd||
First world problems.
I'd love to have such problems in our program.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I read that as him bashing||
I read that as him bashing guys who are seniors and juniors on this team more than Hoke. It makes it sound like every kid just glided thru for 4-5 years. I am sure most worked their tail off but worked it off to little avail based on the general skill level of their coaches. It is very possible to work very hard without making much progress if leadership is poor.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||You wont find out what Nuss||
You wont find out what Nuss is with that offense at UF. His HC is an offensive coord himself so it will be McElwein's blueprint and wishes, not Nuss'.
By the way Nuss took almost a 50% pay cut to go coach at a major P5 program. Not only did we have crap coaches, we pissed money in every direction to attract them.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||27 man TE rotation >> 9 man||
27 man TE rotation >> 9 man QB rotation.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Just fyi I read that 21 fifth||
Just fyi I read that 21 fifth year senior thing in a preview maybe 2 months ago. I just looked at their 2 deep to verify it has any bearing in reality and I found 18 on the 2 deep so they probably have a few fluttering through the program buried below that level so it seems if not perfectly accurate pretty damn close.
Of the 18, 13-14 are serious contributors including 6 starters on defense alone (and could be 7 if the senior corner wins the job). A big advantage and rare for a program with that type of success ex Wisconsin.
And as someone said earlier it's going to be nice facing 22 year olds with 21 year olds rather than 19-20 year olds. Not that it explains away everything but 2 years at that age is a big difference in developing "man strength".
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Mone is still a ways away due||
Mone is still a ways away due to age. Henry is an obvious candidate but its a loaded position in the Big 10 to make all conference - but he can be a star player.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Yes that is what oregon did||
Yes that is what oregon did (your last paragraph) and purdue was able to have success the same way. But you need an accurate and consistent QB to do that and the Big 10 lacks them. It would be far less successful in leagues where middle tier QBs on middle tier teams actually complete passes at a rate greater than 53% i.e. Tommy Armstrong, Mitch Leidner, Trevor Seimian, et al.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Look at their schedule. They||
Look at their schedule. They can be an 8-9 win team without trying too hard. They should start 6-0 with a bevy of crapola teams to start off the year. They had a lot of young offensive skill talent last year that suffered through that horrid OL, and a NFL QB, and probably the best defense in the conf last year which brings back most of it (Hull will be a big loss).
|2 weeks 3 days ago||I have Maryland as a||
I have Maryland as a potential 5 win team this year. They gonna be bad unless Caleb Rowe (a) stays healthy and (b) shows he can carry a team. They had no running game last year and their NFL talent was at WR - both those guys graduated. Their advanced stats were actually quite bad last year (stats that fit a 5 win team) but they managed 7 wins by beating similar dregs i.e. Michigan. When facing quality teams they were blown out of the water (MSU, OSU, Wisconsin). They have one scary player on the whole roster - who plays defense. Just don't kick to him on KOs and punts and you should be ok.
I also think MN is overrated this year coming off last year's hype - they lost Cobb and Williams which was 60% of their offense. They have a great secondary. And a ton of questions. We'll see if TCU depants them yet again this year. I like MN long term but recent hype reminds me of the view of Northwestern 3 years ago.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Bingo.It's nice to have pro||
It's nice to have pro success but college sports fans are most concerned about what a player does .... in college. No different than those ripping Cook's NFL potential. Who cares? He is doing it while at MSU.
It's nice to have NFL success but it's nothing but a bonus. Tebow will be loved at UF forever. Troy Smith at OSU. Mike Hart at UM.
Some tangent arguement can be made about "you don't prepare guys for the league" but as SC said, these were 2 two stars (Waynes was a low 3 at some places) he got into the 1st round in the draft. That's going to be good enough evidence for 99% of HS players rather than "he is not Charles Woodson."
As for MSU they are exploiting the rules as written to their benefit as is Seattle in the NFL. That's the coaches job - get wins. Making sure their guys have 12 year careers in the NFL is not.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Note - he took exactly 0||
Note - he took exactly 0 snaps on offense in spring.
Also if he does do 2-3 plays a game on offense I'd rather it be where there is a lot less traffic out at WR rather than getting poleaxed by 300 lb men in the middle.
If he is up to it he should be used just as fellow sophomore Adoree Jackson of USC was used last year as a freshman. That is split out wide, when not playing CB and not returning kicks.
Jackson made quite an impact on defense, offense and special teams as a first-year freshman cornerback, wide receiver and returner/coverage man in 2014. Overall in 2014 while appearing in all 13 games and starting 10 times at cornerback (at Stanford and then in USC's last 9 games) and once concurrently at wide receiver (Notre Dame), he had 49 tackles, including 4 for losses, 10 deflections, 1 forced fumble and 1 fumble recovery on defense, plus 10 receptions for 138 yards (13.8 avg) with 3 TDs and 1 carry for 5 yards (5.0 avg) on offense and 23 kickoff returns for 684 yards (29.7 avg) with 2 TD and 2 punt returns for 12 yards (6.0 avg). He was used as a 3-way player in 8 games in 2014 (the first 4 and the last 4).
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I think your last point is||
I think your last point is lost on many. Soccer is essentially a 10 month sport - longest season in any sport and that doesnt include the international players who then go play for their country during both the season and "off season". I was reading a piece the other day on a set of factors to succeed as a small club in your main league and one of them was "don't do well in tournaments". Because you wear out your main guys - the big spending clubs can trot out 8 new guys to play those games, esp the beginning half of tournaments while these small low spending clubs don't have the depth.
Swansea will never win an EPL title - 8th place for them is like 2nd for Chelsea Man U Arsenal Liverpool etc.
They are a fun story and I'll be watching them closer this year. If they have another year of top half success in the standings it will be interesting to see if other clubs come after Monk and if he stays long term there due to his long history there as a player. Either way I love his "management style". He is the more fun (playing style) version of Pulis....who also overachieves generally.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||But when Gardner played his||
But when Gardner played his first year he ran a lot. I think we all saw he was a dual threat QB. Morris in his early time has moved out of the pocket a little but is not a guy I see running a spread with success - his athleticism is like Threet level to me.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||It is really difficult for a||
It is really difficult for a team that recruits like Michigan to even fall in the bottom half though. It can be done - we did it in 2010.
A reasonable measure would not to look at all 128 teams in FBS but the P5 teams (~60) and throw in a few independents like BYU Boise if you like. Comparing UM to Eastern, UNLV, Old Dominion, Buffalo, Arkansas State, etc is quite useless.
Just scanning the FEI for 2014, North Carolina was the only P5 team in the bottom 30. Even below 75 I can only find Pitt, Colo, Ill, Texas A&M, Cal, Kentucky, OK State. So even the bottom 10% of all P5 schools ranks 75 and below - the upper 90% are in the 1-75 pool. So being ranked 41st out of 75ish is going to look different then 41st out of 128
It really takes serious effort to be a high double digit defense in advanced stats.
You'd also want to take into account ave rank of offense faced. I did a piece on that a few months ago and 2014 UM defense had one of the easiest opposing offense ranks in the country in P5.
And then I'd add a divisor for recruiting rankings.... i.e. a top 25 defense by Duke would be ranked higher than a top 25 defense by Michigan because of the flood of HS talent one gets vs the other. The potential of a UM defense should be much higher than Vanderbilt, NC State, Minnesota, Kansas State, Oregon State, et al. i.e. Mattison had way more to work with and programs like Texas, Oklahoma, OSU, FSU, Michigan, ND should be graded more on a curve.
But if you just want to simplify it a Michigan defense should never really fall below 50-60. That really should be a "bad year" even if its middle of the pack nationally because half those teams in FBS are non P5s. So 41 is mediocre. Esp when supported by other advanced stats.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I think a spread "look" only||
I think a spread "look" only works if you have a threat at QB to exploit it. Now there are many variations of spread - Oregons is different from OSUs. Heck rich rod's has changed to more pass oriented in the Pac 12 then what he ran here.
But Shane Morris is not that type of QB from anything I've seen. He is a guy who is not a statue (Navarre) but I have seen little "scoot" out of him despite the "athletic" label. People say he is like Luck in terms of not being a running Qb but a "mobile passing Qb" but Luck averaged 400 yds rushing a season net of sacks i.e. 35 a game post sacks. He generally ran about 5x a game. I just dont see Shane Morris as a guy you design a run for. So if you do that 1-2x a game I dont see the point, its not going to change Utah's thinking. Rudock has similar "mobility" to Morris so if he is the starter you might as well have him do those plays over Morris.
Gentry maybe you do it and maybe closer to the goal line.
But at this point I think Michigan football is just learning how the hell to line up and execute a damn play - something it failed at so many times the past 2 years. If you cant run the basic offense I dont know how you have time to put in all the wrinkles. So I dont see much if any of that except if they have a 5-6 play package installed for Gentry only.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Also lost in this discussion||
Also lost in this discussion is quality of offenses faced. The big 10 had a paltry 3 top 50 offenses. UM played 2.
UM played 3 top 50 offenses all year I believe in ND, OSU, MSU. They defense had a big advantage over most teams in the country on who they played.
The litany of dangerous QBs this team had to go up against included a true freshman out of Indiana, Mitch Leidner, C.J. Brown, one of the bottom 3 QBs in the Pac 12 in Wilson, Trevor Siemian, etc etc. Throw in App State and the MAC baby seal on top of it and UM basically had to deal with Cook, Golson, and Jones as functional QBs. Hackenberg had a horrid year and was on the run for his life all year.
I put up the top 25 FEI defenses the other day in another thread and aside from Utah State I could not find another that Michigan was "clearly" better then.
As for the "bad offense excuse" Florida and Penn State had top 10 defenses on all advanced stats and Id say their offenses were even worse than UM's. Florida had a dude in there that didnt even try to throw by mid season. And Texas had an offense similarly bad as UM and was top 20 in advanced stats. And didnt just face 2 good offenses in Baylor and TCU - the average Texas Tech, West Virginia, Oklahoma teams are going to cause a defense much more stress than Maryland, Minnesota, Northwestern.
That defense underachieved and took advantage of a host of really bad offenses.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Didnt Mattison say we were 3||
Didnt Mattison say we were 3 deep at all 4 positions on the DL 2 years ago? Then we had "the right to rush 4" or whatever.
Yep it's that time of year.
I am high on the DTs but a lot of people seem to be dismissive of Beyer and Clark as if they are just interchangeable with our new starters. Front 7 should be solid esp up the middle. I will be curious how the edges contain and penetrate - ends and OLBs.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I think Washington is the||
I think Washington is the least likely of non linemen to see the field. He is thin as heck and if he is playing ahead of Stribling and Brandon Watson with how raw he is....well ugh.
I like Kinnel but with 5 safeties out there it would seem like both Thomas and Clark just are not fit for big 10 play if a true freshman beats them out.
Similar for Higdon - if we have to play 5 running backs it says a lot about most of the other 4.
Amazing how small this class is for defensive players - currently a whopping 4 unless someone position switches in the future.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Magnus seems pretty firm that||
Magnus seems pretty firm that Gentry is playing this year.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Fascinating stuff||
Utah is one of those programs that the fanbase and general public wont get up for but will give you a tough game. So it's a no win situation - you win and everyone says "well you should" and you lose and people say "pathetic" when in reality they are a solid squad and have been since Meyer showed up there. It's a lot like playing Boise State and why they have difficulty getting a lot of blue bloods to face them.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Good pt. So if its a Tuesday||
Good pt. So if its a Tuesday departure its basically a day and a half at that altitude. I was thinking Tuesday sounded very weird for a Saturday game. This isnt OSU where school is optional.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Sounds like we may see a lot||
Sounds like we may see a lot of Delano Hill this year from these comments.
Also interesting he hasnt played a second of offense... from some comments earlier it sounded like they had himout there quite a bit in spring.
Instead of comparing to Woodson who was generational, Peppers can be measured vs Adoree Jackson who had a phenom freshman year doing cb, wr, kick return. They are both in the same class and both were uber recruits who went to blue bloods. Will be interesting to see how they compare at end of this year.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||With the aggressiveness of||
With the aggressiveness of Utah's defense I could see a long day of Rudock doing dump offs of 6-8 yards. Our OL has stunk at reading blitzes for a few years so it would be nice to actually start picking them up on a regular basis. Utah's LBs might actually be their best unit this game so will be interesting how they handle Butt in those seams.
Until i see guys like Isaac Bunting Cole Harris do a darn thing in a NCAA game hard to count on them. At least Isaac has touched a ball on an actual Saturday. That's the problem with the pass game right now - outside of a few guys it's all assumptions on production since so many faces people are counting on haven't done it yet. A guy like Gallon or a "motivated" Funchess would have been nice for this type of game.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Didn't realize they left that||
Didn't realize they left that early in the week for road trips. Thought it would be more like a Thursday.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Yep, I wish Ferns had stuck||
Yep, I wish Ferns had stuck it out 90 more days. He sounded like Harbaugh DNA and I thought he was the most can't miss LB in that class.
With no LB in the 2015 class we already had depth/experience issues next year and with Winovich staying on offense this year and McCray out there is not much experienced depth this year, forget next year. Furbush is still small for the position unless he put on 15 lbs this offseason.
Well another selling pt for the 2016 LBs. If you are not starting as a true freshman you will almost be guaranteed a 2 deep spot.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I would have never guessed #1||
I would have never guessed #1 if I didnt just google it. All the usual suspects next - Air Force, Colorado, Colorado State.
University of Wyoming in Laramie, Wyo. (elev. 7,165 feet): The University of Wyoming is nestled between mountain ranges and sits about 7,165 feet above sea level.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Cool answer = Harbaugh!!!! 4||
Cool answer = Harbaugh!!!! 4 hr practices!!
Serious answer = most likely.
The stadium sits 4,657 feet above sea level, which is high enough that the body feels the effects of altitude. Only six stadiums in Division I football sit at a higher elevation than the 45,017-seat venue.
Studies show it takes about four days to acclimatize to an elevation of about 5,000 feet.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Damn that McCray news is not||
Damn that McCray news is not good.
Most everyone had him and Gedeon as 2 of the 3 LBs next year.
If he cant go we're talking Wangler Furbush or true freshmen. Gant seems a non entity, Winovich wont be practicing LB this year, and Furbush has been injured for nearly 2 yrs straight too. Even if he gets back sounds like he is missing just about this entire year so all that practice time is gone. Makes me scratch my head even more on the Winovich move to offense.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Yes it is an interesting||
Yes it is an interesting game. You dont often get two P5s playing in week 1; usually they both have a patsy to work on some things and then week 2 they butt heads. I do like the timing for Michigan once I did the research and saw how many starters Utah lost. The secondary especially will be trying to break in a lot of faces and you hope Jake can exploit it. (or Morris I guess)
|2 weeks 6 days ago||They return 3 starting OL of||
They return 3 starting OL of 5 - 50 starts among those 3. They have another guy with 5 starts. That's very typical for OL turnover across the college landscape.
They have a bunch of Junior types competing for these spots. With the hell around here lately I think UM fans think at other programs when you lose a senior you are forced to play a rs freshman to replace him next year. We used to replace seniors with guys in their 3rd or 4th season for decades without significant dropoff - until past half decade.
They were able to run the ball last year - the issue seemed to be protections.
We have our DTs, but questions about our DEs. People seem to dismiss Clark and Beyer as if they weren't here or didn't play 75% of last year's snaps. Will the new guys be as good as run stoppers as the old guys? I dont know. And even the old guys when facing Minn, MSU, OSU etc didnt do a very good job stopping the run.
As for LBs I like the defense down the middle - I have concerns on the outside with their speed. I will be curious how runs that break outside the hash are handled - we dont have a lot of quick twitch athletes in our LB core.
Both teams have questions to answer and they have a pretty damn good back on top of it who gets YAC.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Great SNL skit with Tom Brady||
Great SNL skit with Tom Brady on that quite a while back. Brady was in an office just harassing the hell out of all the women and they loved it. Then normal cast member did minor things and was getting taken to the cleaners for it. Hilarious (and true).
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I know most of us don't read||
I know most of us don't read diaries (I didn't for a long time here) but if you want some PSU preview in shorter version AFTER you read Seth's piece on Kindle ...
|3 weeks 10 hours ago||Didn't read it all but was||
Didn't read it all but was there anything about "hearing football"? I was told that is important.
|3 weeks 12 hours ago||"120 is just a number" -||
"120 is just a number" - Funchess
|3 weeks 13 hours ago||Be measurably better in mid||
Be measurably better in mid Nov than mid Sep for the first time since 2006.
W/L jumps usually happen in year 2 with elite coaches - see Saban, Stoops. Meyer had a very unique situation (Fickell) - he was not rebuilding ruin.
|3 weeks 13 hours ago||This was the obvious medical||
This was the obvious medical hinted at for a long time - even at the end of the Hoke era before he was canned but didn't realize poor guy hurt his knee again this spring.
|3 weeks 15 hours ago||Well I am not going to say it||
Well I am not going to say it in every thread but I strongly disagree with the assertion MSU and UM are not far apart in talent.
MSU had 2 potential 1st round picks/2nd round picks come back for their 5th year in Calhoun and Cook. They had another potential 1st round pick in Conklin at LT. They have 3 potential 1st round picks (borderline 2nds) - we might have a 5th or 6th rounder type in the Boldens and Lyons. They have one of the best centers in the country.
Their front 7 on defense features 5 fifth year seniors - and a Bullough and a Malik McDowell. They way Lawrence Thomas was playing the last third of the year I expect him now to be drafted in the 3rd/4th rounds - he finally began putting it together.
They have 21 fifth year seniors on the roster; we have 3 - 2 of them being transfers (Rudock, Lyons). They have a TE as good as Butt. They dont have an all world WR corps but 3-4 guys with experience and Kings has more YAC ability than anyone on our team at this point. Much more proven production there. Montae Nicholson played great for a true freshman at S.
They are a very talented team and a very experienced team. Ironically there one big question is CB but thats due to losing 1st round draft picks back to back yrs. RB is also a question but their OL is pretty loaded so as we know as goes the OL goes the running game.
I'm sorry but there is a significant talent difference especially in the upperclassmen of the 2 teams. They have an established coaching core and they are very good evaluators and developers of talent. They are not breaking in coaches at every spot like we are.
Next year they lose those 21 fifth year seniors and I'll agree by then the talent gulf won't be that big. But I'll disagree this year.
That doesnt mean UM cannot or will not beat MSU. Quite a few times a far superior UM team waltzed into EL and a pesky undermanned MSU team gave them a rough time or outright beat them. In 2015 we are that pesky team and MSU is the far more talented squad.
|3 weeks 15 hours ago||This reminds me how depressed||
This reminds me how depressed I would be if Brady Hoke was coach today. And the love for Hackett we all have would not be there IMO if he had retained him - as it seems like he was clsoe to doing if we had 1-2 more wins last year.
A 0 TD in his career Shane Morris would be competing with Malzone and Speight for QB, all the same sad sack position coaches (ex 1 or 2) would be "teaching" these kids how to play football, and a lost conductor would be at the helm. As our top 2 rivals sit in the top 10. Ugh what a disaster this could have been with another year of this shit.
|3 weeks 15 hours ago||I did a preview of BYU here.||
I did a preview of BYU here. He will give UM all sorts of fits.
As for Williams he is solid but the best RB on the field that day most likely will be Hill. And their OL is top 20ish in the nation so generally you can plug in any # of RBs in that system - we had that for a few decades here.
Yes Harbaugh recruited Hill before he left... he never played at Stanford and with the mission etc he is still around.
|3 weeks 19 hours ago||He is a very impressive part||
He is a very impressive part of Tennessee's 48 person class.
|3 weeks 19 hours ago||I think its a quiet period||
I think its a quiet period for football and you are trying to read into things.
Let's give it to game 4 or so before making any declarations. Depth charts mean crap as we have seen the past few years.
|3 weeks 19 hours ago||No lemons were hurt in the||
No lemons were hurt in the writing of this ESPN piece...
|3 weeks 19 hours ago||I have not done Utah yet but||
I have not done Utah yet but should be difficult yes. Just completely different challenge than BYU. If we can stifle Utah running back (easier said than done but we did it last year) I like our chances for an upset even if its game 1. I don't see us stuffing Hill from BYU and am frankly terrified of what he can do to our defense. I will be watching the BYU Neb game very closely to see how he does and if he is at all conservative in his running to protect his leg. He strikes me as a guy who won't be.
Thus far I have Oregon State and Maryland as teams casual UM fan will overestimate and PSU BYU as teams casual UM fan will underestimate. Utah has a 2 game winning streak against us so I hope by now UM fan doesnt underestimate them.
I also think Minnesota is being overrated a bit but they will be well coached and its on the road. But they lost a ton of offensive production. Of the 4 "swing" games on the schedule (Utah, Minn, BYU, PSU) I have Minn as the "easiest" I think.
|3 weeks 19 hours ago||Thx. Takes a long while to||
Thx. Takes a long while to do these but they help me have a good idea of what I am talking about when on these msg boards. Also this year I can re-read them in December and laugh at how wrong I was. ;)
|3 weeks 1 day ago||softball served...||
|3 weeks 1 day ago||shorter....||
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Thanks. 247 has him at 6'1||
Thanks. 247 has him at 6'1 but they also had him at 175.
Sounds like you wont like him anywhere on the defense :) Maybe at slot WR? haha.
Well if he ends up being a 205-210 lb corner he is going to be tough to get off the line against even if he suffers once you get past him. Maybe he can become a guy you slot against opposing tight ends on passing downs as well.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Would you like him more as a||
Would you like him more as a safety if he grows into that? Your concerns seem to center around athleticism. I was thinking he might be a cool 6'2 225+ lb speedy OLB in 3 yrs too if his body frame can handle that growth. A "not fast corner" can be a "very fast" LB. At his height and age - esp if he adds an inch or two he could end up in a few places on the field 3 years down the road depending what he tops out at. Our heaviest DBs are 205 now and those are all safety types - the corners are sub 200. Lyons and Watson look to be the only 2 corners even over 180 lbs. If Scott was on the roster today he'd already be the 2nd heaviest corner behind Lyons.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||"That guy is jacked!", "Dude||
"That guy is jacked!", "Dude is built like a brick house", "Guy looks like a mack truck" = the new pedophilia.
Thanks for the hot take.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||If that weight is accurate he||
If that weight is accurate he might end up at S down the road. 192 lbs as a 16 yr old? That's 17 lbs more than he is listed at on 247. Once he puts on 15 lbs of "always good weight" after a yr or 2 in college S&C, going to be nearing 210. He is also young enough he might still add an inch or two vertically. (or more)
Interesting that Magnus has such a low rating on the kid - will be interesting how he turns out and where on the field he finishes up.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I had to see what "chiseled"||
I had to see what "chiseled" meant in relation to that '17 running back out of GA and damn- built like a truck. OMGShirtless would die.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||It is rather difficult to||
It is rather difficult to tell what PSU does and does not have on the OL. They lost LT and LG. They return 4 guys with 9 to 13 starts. They bring in a 4 star JUCO for the 5th guy. Is that an ok unit? I have no idea. Does it have depth? No.
If I did this a year ago for UM I would not have counted Jack Miller as a quality OL guy. He ended up being 1. Same for Mason Cole. Until they play you can't tell nor can you say PSU only has 4 guys.
Our OL is Glasgow, Kalis, Cole, Braden, Magnuson. Then all question marks. No one else has a single start. I'd argue neither team has any proven depth.
I still dont see where UM fans tout our "O line depth" vs PSU - both lack it. Unless people show up this year out of the blue and begin to perform.
As for the defense we can adjust to 3-4 if need be but there is a difference in having to switch to 3-4 80% of the game because you have to if say Wormley or Charlton were hurt vs wanting to play it that much. If you want to count guys like RJS as "depth" you can - I don't. I count people who actually have had an impact on a NCAA game. We have good DT depth and after Charlton, Wormley (I assume he plays DE this year), and Mario O you are talking Marshall and then true freshman as your DEs. Or RJS.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||It's not this one game is||
It's not this one game is worth two. It is the cluster of similar opponents that will swing UM's seasons from the 7-8 area to 9-10 area. In my cluster I have @PSU, @Minn, BYU, and @Utah. Those are the games I have ranked as #3 toughest to #6 toughest (not in that order).
So if you go 3-1 in that cluster of games vs 1-3 your win total takes that swing and perception of your season can change significantly. 3-1 thru that group you are probably talking 10 wins as viable unless they drop a game to a quite pedestrian team elsewhere. 1-3 and probably 8 wins is the ceiling.
For me the total win doesnt matter much this year - I'd rather see the team go 1-3 to begin the year and knock off either MSU and OSU to finish the season 7-6 then start 4-0 and finish 7-6 in Rich Rod fashion. I know its not an either or but for 2015 I'd rather see UM rise up and beat a very strong team and then lose to an also ran then get smashed by the top teams and only beat "who they should". And be better in mid Nov than late Sept. Something that has been missing here for a decade.
I am a big proponent of a big hire having much more impact on W/L in year 2 than 1 - see Saban, Stoops, etc. Year 1 is about getting your shit in order, your culture changed, and developing guys who are going to be the bad asses of year 2.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Thanks for that comment. The||
Thanks for that comment. The BYU people said something similar so that makes me feel I am in the right area directionally. I try to write these as a neutral rather than as a UM fan which gets me pushback on this board of course. And why I wont write them for OSU and MSU :) too much emotion about it from the board.
I was hoping Harbaugh would steal Shoop from you guys when he was being considered for the job if he could not bring Vic Fangio from the NFL. Will be interesting to see how Durkin works out long term.
Should be an interesting game and I think people might have a different perception of the game if PSU does indeed start 6-0, as if that happens Hack should be having a great year.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||I expect ours to improve as||
I expect ours to improve as well. We just start from a higher level. Improving on 2013 UM and 2014 PSU is very easy actually. Hard to go down from those depths. UM needs to get to 30th nationally as an OL to make big strides vs 2014 - we'll see if they can do that. It's harder to move from bad to ok, then ok to good.
To a degree I am worried about RBs vision as well - I dont think the OL exploded higher last year from game 7 to game 10 for example but the same holes the Smiths and Hayes could not find Johnson could find.
Green has his own situation - he got the bulk of his yards vs two abysmal defenses - he averaged like 8 yards per carry vs App State and MAC walkover and then 3.6 vs Big 10 defenses/Utah/ND. His balance is also not great - first touch tackles are common with Green - when he got massive holes where no one touched him vs App State he looked great. So his total average looks good but his splits show he was dominant vs non P5 teams and subpar v P5 teams. Behind the same OL that Johnson was able to succeed with.
Right now Johnson is the only guy I believe can find the hold the OL creates on a consistent basis. And he will be working his way to 100% health thru fall camp so no guarantees there. If Johnson is 100% healthy I'd probably rate the run games pretty equal.
PSU's RB got 4.6 yards per carry behind a 2013 UM type line so that's pretty impressive to me actually.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Who did you consider having||
Who did you consider having the best defense last year in Big 10?
Going into the Big 10 championship gave I would have said a tie btw Wisconsin and PSU. I thought MSU's run defense was the normal ferocious self but they gave up too many big pass plays (supported by advanced stats) to be the best and OSU's defense got better later in the year but was not at PSU/Wisc level for the first half of the year but I guess the advanced stats say they were up there with PSU and Wisc too. So I assume you'll say OSU. Which I can't argue too much.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Ok I think directionally we||
Ok I think directionally we agree. If you want to go with 8 or 9 wins that is fine.
What i saw was when PSU lost in 2014 it was almost always close. (same for many of their wins because their offense was crap). When I look at UM, I see not only less wins but the losses were by wider margins. ND, MSU, OSU, Minn all ended up being 2 TD+ losses. Whereas that was less of an issue for PSU so aside from more wins they were more competitive game to game. They had 4 losses of 1, 2, 5 pts, and a game tied at end of regulation - our only similar loss was rutgers (by 2)
And I agree they had more cupcakes - we only had 2. They had 3. Unless you count Indiana which was a cupcake for both.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Big Drevno fan - a guy I was||
Big Drevno fan - a guy I was praying would come over but didnt think would happen because he had just gone to USC the year before. But it needs to be proven on the field. Lets hope it does. I also worry about injuries with our OL because with Miller gone if 1 guy goes down you start getting anxious and if 2 go down you start relying on guys with a lot of questions.
The spring game performance (yes split squads of OL but other teams in the nation were able to run in their spring game with split squads) didnt show me much different than 2014. Certainly a "show me" story for now.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||I wouldnt worry that much||
I wouldnt worry that much about PSU losing 1 of their better OL since they - like UM - have a bunch of similar guys. On the other hand if a guy like Zettel goes out that changes the complexion of the trenches big time.
I disagree on the "depth" advantage UM fans are touting on the lines. Who is our 6th best OL? 7th? Guys like Kugler and Dawson? With what experience?
Our 2 deep on DE is ok but 1 injury and we may be playing a true freshman at DE this year like Shelton Johnson in the 2 deep.
DT is the 1 place we have depth but PSU has decent backup DTs too.
I dont see a major advantage in depth for UM on the lines.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Haha I see you hate PSU.The||
Haha I see you hate PSU.
The Big 10 had 3 (count em!) top 50 offenses. PSU played 2 of them. Very few teams played all 3. Most teams in the conf played 2 of them. Only maybe 2-3 teams played all 3. MSU and OSU also were the only teams with a truly competent QB and PSU played em both.
PSU and Wisconsin had the best advanced stats in the conf on defense. OSU and MSU were in the next tier. You saw what OSU did to Wisconsin's D and MSU's D - they didnt do that to PSU. MSU had the advantage of playing at home and Wisconsin was neutral field.
And PSU had a rush defense built to stop the 3rd best offense in the conference (Wisconsin) who had a converted safety at QB for part of the year.
I think you are reaching.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||I am not defending their||
I am not defending their schedule - and not saying they were impressive. They kept all games but 2 close and when you do that you can pull out a lot of wins where you dont look that impressive. UM's win over PSU was that way right? UM's win over Northwestern was that way too.
That defense / schedule opened the door for them to win a lot of games if they did anything on offense. Again, tied with OSU at end of regulation (could have won that), lost by 5 to UM (could have won that), lost by 2 to Ill (could have won that), lost by 1 to Maryland.
A few breaks and thats a 10 (or close to 10) win season despite a shit offense. Just like they could also have lost to UCF and rutgers with a few breaks.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||What position groups aside||
What position groups aside from OL and TE do you think UM is better than PSU at (without maize colored glasses)? It is a serious question and I don't have many I can point to so I have hard time arguing UM should clearly win. I dont see the 2 teams as eons apart but I dont see many position groups a neutral will pick UM's group "no question".
UM fans will claim safety based on a guy who played 1.5 games his entire NCAA career and another guy Mattison benched at times last year. PSU has talent at safety too. UM fans will claim linebacker - we dont have dynamic playmakers there - we have workmanlike serviceable guys. PSU has to replace Hull but has similar talent. PSU DTs could be the best duo in the nation. Both teams have open questions at DE. PSU has way more production at Wr. If you have major maize colored glasses you could say QB is a wash.
All I have is TE for UM, and I'd say running back MAY be a wash (maybe) and UM OL is better ....hard not to be because PSU OL was a horror show last year. So if I have 8 position groups and can only find 2 I see a distinct advaantage hard for me to go gung ho on UM in this matchup.
Also have to think how the game works out - both teams run defense should limit the other teams run offense. What does that leave? PSU pass offense to attack UM's pass defense... and UM's pass offense to attack PSU's pass defense. Which pass offense has less questions?
I also think playing PSU early would be better - but I can see why you disagree. PSU has 1 major issue - OL. If you're in the crowd that OLs get better with age and experience the PSU OL should be better in mid Nov then mid Sept. And that is their main weakness so if they can (like UM 2014) get from 'well below average" to "meh" by Nov their main weakness is alleviated. UM of course also will be better (we hope) in Nov than Sept but needs to see similar breakthroughs in multiple position groups.
Thats my take and I understand I am in the minority based on the comments I've seen the prediction threads. I just think excellent defenses compensate for a lot and PSU has the potential to be excellent yet again. And a NFL 1st round pick QB is all sorts of issues - we made Nova and Golson look like world beaters, and Hack 2015 - on paper - should be better.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||They were a 7-6 team that||
They were a 7-6 team that lost 3 games by a combined 8 pts. And the OSU came was another game they could have won... tied at end of game.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah I think the way the||
Yeah I think the way the season plays out PSU will have a lot of momentum coming out of 2015 as Hack will do very well, then he leaves for the NFL early and Zettel leaves and 2016 PSU has more questions. So we'll see how that 2016 offense works out if that happens but 2016 PSU OL will be 2015 UM OL and PSU is pretty stacked with young Wrs... and has a lot of high ranked rbs coming in too. PSU recruiting has picked up the past 1.5 years.
I didnt look too deep into the PSU OC so I dont have a strong opinion but if the offense can remain average i.e. top 40-50 nationally and Shoop sticks around they have a good system in place.
I also should not have written Shoop is underrated nationally - LSU came after him so among coaches they are respecting what he is doing. Just the casual fan in the Big 10 has no idea who he is or how good he appears. I also think Wisconsin's DC (despite what OSU did) does great work with the type of talent Wisconsin gets.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||I skip around from section to||
I skip around from section to section when I write these (they don't go from top to bottom of page) and I originally posted this without editing 2 of the 4 matchups in error. (the template was the northwestern preview so that is why you saw northwestern there)
These take quite a few hrs just to write so by the 2nd hr I am freaking out the computer will reboot and make me start from scratch, so I sort of rush to post at the end, then go back and try to fix mmost of the errors. Wish mgoblog had "save draft" option like a basic message board.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Going for 2 was the right||
Going for 2 was the right call. The UM defense was paper mache in the 2nd half - OSU ran at will and was getting something like 8 yards per attempt. Gardner was playing on 1 leg.
The stupidity was when Urban called timeout you come out with the exact same fucking play as pre timeout. That is Brady Hoke football summarized in 1 play.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I expect much ado about||
I expect much ado about nothing in that handshake. Fans have built up some massive expectation that it is going to be talked about so much the coaches are going to be cognizant not to do anything out of ordinary. When Harbaugh did stuff like that it was organic and spontaneous - not something pre-ordained for 10 months.
I would like to see an extraordinary scowl of disbelief out of Dantonio post game though. He excels at scowling so I hope this will be one of his best.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Iowa could have fired Ferentz||
Iowa could have fired Ferentz and taken a risk and hired Herman who has Iowa State experience if they wanted to roll the dice. The financials would have been near break even.
Not saying Herman is the man but if you want a guy with Iowa State exp who coached in the breadwinner state in the Midwest and rid Iowa of being so damn boring that would have made sense. Of course they could go and be 4-8 Iowa with Herman too.
The Funchess stuff is something we all knew....well most at least...but still sad.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Here were the top 25 per||
#7 was in total yards given up in a shitty conf for offenses. At 1 point deep into last year the Big 10 had 4 of the top 7 defenses and 8 of the top 25 based on total yards. Do you think the Big 10 is just that elite on defense as a conf? Or maybe having only 3 offenses that ranked top 50 nationally helped all the defenses - and many teams in the west never played 2 of those offenses (OSU/MSU). Total yards is misleading IMO. ACC defenses had similar help from a bunch of crap offenses.
Some reading on the subject: http://mgoblog.com/diaries/are-big-10-defensive-stats-inflated-bad-offen...
Here were the top 25 defenses in 14 per football outsiders FEI. I dont see many teams outside Utah State I can say UM was clearly better. UM had a decent defense that faced some of the worse passing QBs in the country in the conf -- guys like Leidner, Siemian, CJ Brown, and a true freshman in his 2nd game from Indiana. It also faced a broken down Hack who was sacked 44x last year - and that excludes the 100s of pressures that dude faced. The 10th 11th best Pac 12 QB in 2014 would have been the 3rd best in the Big 10 (if you combine all the OSU QBs as 1 player)
It made Nova look like a 3rd round NFL pick, made Gholson look like a 1st rounder, and Cook only had to throw 4x in the 2nd half as MSU was so in control of the game. It was a decent defense but nothing special and lost arguably 2 of the top 3 players off it in ryan and clark.
Neb, Wis, MSU and OSU were better in the conf.
UM was in Minn/Northwestern range in just about all advanced stats on defense.
Some of the teams below gave up a lot of pts but if UM gave up 31 to ND and 30+ to Minn you can imagine what facing Oregon, Arizona State, UCLA, Baylor, TCU would do to our stats. They played exactly 2 good offenses all year in MSU and OSU.
And I dont want to hear about how the offense destroyed the defense at UM. UM had >30 minutes a game of possession and played like molasses on offense giving defense plenty of time. PSU Florida and Texas had just as shitty offenses as UM did last year and all had top 20ish defenses. UM was nearer to 40.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||If I remember how this lame||
If I remember how this lame thing works it gives teams major credit for high level recruiting classes so teams like TN, UM, TX will show way above what they may actually do on the field.
Also 25th is not "outrageous" even excluding the dumb over reliance on recruiting ranks. A typical 8-4 team which about 50%+ of this blog expects (most as a floor) is going to be ranked 20 to 30.
By the way in the updated ESPN "rankings" the projected win total is 7.7 i.e. just about where every national pundit has UM and about right with a 28-35 rank (the updated rank is 33)
The 27th ranked offense on the other hand smells of catering to blog readers. If this team can pull off a top 30 offense it is going to win 10 games.
|4 weeks 8 hours ago||Sounds a bit like a guy||
Sounds a bit like a guy around these parts mid 00's who took over the job in his freshman year and never gave it up...
|4 weeks 12 hours ago||A solid QB with a normalized||
A solid QB with a normalized TO ratio would have put the Rutgers and Maryland games from L to W IMO.
MSU and ND were not competitive.
A solid QB helping a 4 quarter healthy Drake Johnson in a rivalry game could have led to something vs OSU. Hoke sucked at a lot of things but getting UM up to play OSU was not one of them. Remember Indiana with a freshman QB played OSU tough for 3 quarters a few weeks before the UM game. They were not a juggernaut every wek. OSU also almost lost to PSU.
Obviously the Minn game was a giant clusterfuck but Rudock starting that game and Morris never leaving the bench and that probably is a very competitive game that might have been a coin flip at the end. Same for Utah if it was Rudock and not Gardner.
So your 5-7 goes to 7-5 (Rutgers, Maryland) and with a turnover or two the trajectory of the Utah game could have changed. Erasing Shane Morris from that Minn game - who knows what happens. So we can argue win 8 or 9 but flipping to 7 wins would be extremely probable.
That said we had some close wins just the same, PSU and NW so even with a better QB who knows if you play those games 10 times if we win them more than 6 times. They were complete toss ups.
|4 weeks 12 hours ago||Per science here are the win||
Per science here are the win probabilities. These take into account when the game is played and where but don't account for any injuries. Don't doubt science.
As I do more previews my opinions... err science may change.
The 3 biggest year over year changes aside from "HARBAUGH!" and attitude will be:
|4 weeks 12 hours ago||We've won 9 of the last 10.||
We've won 9 of the last 10. It just doesnt feel that way because so many lately have felt like escapes! (2 OT games to boot)
|4 weeks 12 hours ago||Ok thanks. I am not going to||
Ok thanks. I am not going to edit the piece for one word because then I need to reload all the photos again.
So everyone just imagine Minnesota = Northwestern in that 1 sentence.
|4 weeks 17 hours ago||They had the 93rd ranked||
They had the 93rd ranked offense last year via FEI.
Translated - UM's was 11 spots better.
They always have a good defense under Foster and good special teams and often in non Vick years offense is the issue. You need to score a lot to keep up with OSU.
|4 weeks 17 hours ago||Sample periods dude...sample||
Sample periods dude...sample periods.
|4 weeks 17 hours ago||This might prevent OSU from||
This might prevent OSU from covering the 42 pt spread. Just devastating news.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||MAAR is not necessarily that||
MAAR is not necessarily that different of a player in NCAA basketball - in fact I'd argue his game is very similar to most bball players out there - slash to the basket type, whose outside shot needs work. He seems "unusual" because that is not the typical Beilein wing/SG type. We've been used to "not just a shooter" typed ala Nik or Irvin. GR3 - while immensely athletic - was not a guy who'd impose his will to the hole.... MAAR does.
As for minutes - while I like MAAR - I think this is a year he gets lost in minutes since I dont see Caris playing less than 35 mpg unless foul trouble. Where MAAR will get his minutes are games Caris gets 2 early in 1st half which we know meant auto bench. And games Caris might be at 4 fouls at some point in the latter 2nd half. Other than that I just see 2-3 minutes a half in most games as Beilein just rides his top ponies to quite big minutes.
He might also get some quality minutes vs teams that play small (3ish guard lineups) but have an excellent 2 or 3 where he is tasked to be the shutdown defender and Irvin goes to 4 and Caris to the spot MAAR is not.
I think he caught the league by surprise with his ability to get to the hole and upside atheliticism from the 2. Then I think opponents adjusted by not respecting his outside shot and playing him for dribble drive and his effectivness fell off. No shame in that - while he is an "old" freshman, he is still a freshman. As you wrote - he needs to get a better outside shot and if he can do that he can really be a major prospect. But probably a year from now for reasons listed above.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Well that is a timing issue.||
Well that is a timing issue. Some players who others have speculated will be off the team this summer will remain. Which would mean they might actually be here long term, when many assumed they won't be.
That is different than a bunch of 5th yr seniors who will be "trying out" for their spot next winter. Or the normal guys who transfer due to lack of playing time.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Totally unrelated but as I||
Totally unrelated but as I googled the last story above this one came up about the SEC now has a requirement to play one P5 in their non conf every year beginning in 2016. They somehow included Army into that so expect a lot of Army v SEC games in the next 20 years - good to get them now before they are booked up!!
Army football has had just one winning season since 1997, yet starting in 2016 the SEC will recognize a game against Army in the same way it would a game against Ohio State, Texas, USC or Florida State. Starting in 2016 the SEC’s non-conference scheduling requirement will go into action, requiring SEC schools to schedule at least one game each season against another school from a Power 5 conference (ACC, Big 12, Big Ten, Pac-12 or even the SEC). Notre Dame was always expected to fulfill that requirement, but on Thursday the SEC decided games against BYU and Army will also count. Notre Dame makes sense given its place among the powers in college football today. BYU even makes a decent case. But Army?
Since 2003, Navy has had just one losing season, but the Midshipmen are shipping out to the American Athletic Conference, abandoning independence starting this fall. Because of that, Navy will not count toward meeting the SEC’s power conference scheduling requirement. Neither does Boise State. Or Colorado State. Or Air Force. But Army does?
|4 weeks 2 days ago||WI has lost multiple players||
WI has lost multiple players the last few years due to this and I think are going to be 2nd in the conference in terms of what is required after Northwestern. Also a cited reason for Andersen leaving and an uncited reason Big Bert left before him. I know STAEE picked up a kid who couldnt get into WI 2 years ago (Craig Evans) - who ironically is apparently having academic problems at Staee as well.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Considering Miami OH is||
Considering Miami OH is getting $1.5M in 2020 per their AD to be squashed on the road that's just the cost of business. Inflation baby.
"We go out to 2020, we're getting $1.5 million from somebody," Sayler said. "There's going to be growth built in each year. The numbers keep going up. As you've seen from the public with the revenues coming in from the Big Ten Network and all the seats those schools have, I don't think $1 million is a real staggering number at all when you really put it in context."
This season (2014), Miami (Ohio) will take home $1.1 million to play at Michigan, Florida Atlantic will get $1 million to play at Nebraska and Ball State $900,000 for playing at Iowa. Miami (Ohio) is set to make $1 million in 2015 at Wisconsin, Sayler said, and fellow Mid-American Conference school Ball State will collect a program-record $1.2 million for playing at Texas A&M. Wisconsin also will pay $1.2 million to host Florida Atlantic in 2017.
In total, Big Ten teams will shell out $22,868,246 for those 38 home games in 2014 -- an average of roughly $601,796 per game. The cost for the type of guarantees against Football Bowl Subdivision mid-major teams that don't require a return visit is significantly higher, with Big Ten teams paying an average of $827,838 on 17 games.
The decision to drop FCS teams leaves Big Ten athletic directors with three remaining options when scheduling games: Create a home-and home series against a power-conference team, play a neutral-site game or schedule a mid-major program for a one-time game guarantee.
Money made off ticket sales alone at schools such as Wisconsin and Iowa, however, approaches $3 million, according to Alvarez and Iowa athletic director Gary Barta, and most ADs want to keep games on campus. Schools with larger stadiums generally net between $5 million-$7 million from home games.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Dear Binders full of women||
Dear Binders full of women man,
Didnt't you say that UM only has a losing record all time vs X many teams all time with X being something like 3? If so this is a chance to get rid of one of them....revenge is ours.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||No I was not. I think||
No I was not. I think Campbell fell 50+ spots his senior year as his issues became more clear. But I'd take a sure handed receiver who is a 7 on athleticism over a 9 who has a lot of drops. People tend to fall in love with measurables - even NFL people, over guys who can just play.
I say this as a guy dying for UM to have a speed Wr.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Perfect aside for lack of||
Perfect aside for lack of bowling balls and pins.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Agree on this. Utah may beat||
Agree on this. Utah may beat us but they grind it out - they win with defense, running, and special teams. They could strangle us like 23-13 or something.
BYU on the other hand, if Hill has a huge game and Jake does not could be ugly. Esp because they have a legit run defense and UM has not been able to function as a run offense without Drake Johnson in 2+ years (excl App States of the world).... this is the first year in many we have to rely on actual running backs to work and not fall back onto a running QB.
BYU is more explosive and they will get their points either way. Utah is not. These are almost completely opposite teams. That said Utah has prob the 2nd best runner UM will face this year as well so the run defense has to be good right out of the gate as their wont be a "practice game".
|4 weeks 3 days ago||"....if you keep Taysom Hill||
"....if you keep Taysom Hill under wraps and control the ball on offense "
Agreed but easier said and done. Top end players tend to lift their team. You basically gave the exact same game plan for 2012 for every team that played UM. "...if you keep Denard robinson under wraps and control the ball on theoffense"
Or you could have said that about Syracuse about 25 years ago "...if you keep Donovan McNabb under wraps..."
Michigan needs to show it can control the ball on offense - BYU has a top 20 rush defense in the nation. So that is also easier said then done. You can exploit BYU almost at will through the air. Thankfully we have a QB who can actually do that now. If rudock was not here this would have major upset potential and even with him here he has to have a big game.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||So 12-2 Boise State run by||
So 12-2 Boise State run by one of the best coaches in the country would not beat 2014 Michigan? But beat Zona? Sure.
UCF gave Penn State all they could handle. Michigan and PSU were very similar last year.
Memphis was 10-3 and lost to UCLA 42-35 in Los Angeles.
You are going off names of teams rather than product on the field.
All those opponents would have given 2014 Michigan all it could handle.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Boise State was 12-2 last||
Boise State was 12-2 last year - you realize that right? Boise would have beat UM by 20+ last year as well. They beat Arizona in their bowl 38-30 and last year's Arizona beat Oregon.
I said BYU had a crap pass defense - something Boise happens to do very well (throw the ball). I expect a high scoring game as both offenses exploit the other.
BYU is not a BCS team but its not a pushover which was the point of the original comment ie. "I see the 3 non Utah games as easy wins." I am calling for them to go into Neb and pull off the upset in game 1 this year. And give UM everything it can handle on defense.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||You realize it is a 2 way||
You realize it is a 2 way street right?
Corley has been cool to UM for a long time. So you don't have as much of a "decision" as you are making it sound to be. Mitchell is basically OSU v UM battle and OSU has some higher priorities apparently so UM has a good chance. Corley is OSU v MSU v TN with UM basically on the outside looking in.
So part of "prioritizing" is going after who wants you to go after them. Doesnt mean you dont try for both but butting your head against a wall repeatedly surely gets old after a while. For all we know Corley could be #1 on the UM board but his interest has been lukewarm. Or he could be #3 or #5 - we'll never know.
If the scouting analysis above is accurate there is some danger in taking a guy whose hands are not the best but he is the "better" athlete. You roll the dice - he could be better or much worse. Ability to catch is sort of a big deal when it comes to WR no matter what your top end speed. That was the issue with George Campbell - freak athlete ... main issue was the dropsies. So yes his ceiling was uber high but that sort of guy can be a total bust at WR if he never fixes his hands.
It is a lot like guys who fall in love with measurables on a QB but his accuracy and decision making lack but you say "well his ceiling is super high if he can only fix those things." UM fans should be familiar with that...