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|17 hours 24 min ago||Brandon would never do this,||
Brandon would never do this, which is part of why the michigan athletic department has more money than state and we can afford nicer facilities and higer paid coaches. I'm sure there is a happy middle, but if ross gets pissed because he can't get a ticket through michigan for a rose bowl game because he is not a season ticket holder the football team losses a lot of money (obviously ross can afford a ticket on the secondary market, this is just a hypothetical where he feels slighted by the AD and gives all his money to the academic side instead).
|4 days 11 hours ago||The kid showed some solid||
The kid showed some solid vision before the QB stepped in, you can see at the beginning of the play all the lb's follow the blocking and flow to the left, if the wr holds his block thats a huge lane he is originally heading for.
|4 days 15 hours ago||You aren't the only one, so||
You aren't the only one, so don't take this an insult but I hate this trend in fans. You are willing to spen money on tickets to support your team but when it comes to potentially losing 20 dollars in a fantasy league you pick the 20? I don't get it.
The only reason I could see rooting against my team is if thousands of dollars are on the line which is part of why I generally don't get involved in big money leagues or ever bet against my own team. I couldn't imagine rooting against the ravens last year for any reason, or against michigan basketball because I had us losing in the sweet sixteen in my bracket.
|5 days 13 hours ago||I don't think thats quite how||
I don't think thats quite how it works. I think people are saying that there is a 60% chance that he goes to michigan, 40% chance that he goes anywhere else, not strict percentages for each school.
|5 days 18 hours ago||I mean according to reports||
I mean according to reports saban has had an extension (his second one this year) available to him this entire week and hasn't signed it, so there is that. I also don't think 7 million is enough since apparently texas is offering 10 million a year, a 1% stake in the longhorn network and highest paid assistant coaches.
Also shows that already having signed an extension this year doesn't mean anything, since saban already did that once.
|5 days 19 hours ago||No world exists where a||
No world exists where a recruit is seriously considering indiana state and michigan and the only decididing factor is a larger living stipend. The gap already exists and this wouldn't widen it any further, the schools who should be most worried about this are schools like purdue, or wake forest, they don't bring in that much money athletically and now could be at a bigger disadvantage compared to other bcs teams.
|1 week 7 hours ago||Do you think if Saban leaves||
Do you think if Saban leaves bama fans would tear down his statue? Because that would be hilarious to watch.
|1 week 13 hours ago||It's at least 2 to 2 since||
It's at least 2 to 2 since saban arrived, not sure when auburns third came versus when saban showed up.
|1 week 14 hours ago||Reportedly agreed but not||
Reportedly agreed but not actually signed yet, but why does that matter anyway? coaches leave schools all the time with years left on their contract and texas isn't going to care about a buy out claus, that athletic department is practically a mint and they have unbeleviably loaded boosters.
Edit: not saying it will happen just that it will be sumlins call if they ask, the extension won't matter at all to texas. Malzahn, shaw, and meyer will also all get mentioned. Texas is just on another level financially, no school can match what they can if they really want to.
|1 week 15 hours ago||You know whats crazy about||
You know whats crazy about saban? in the last 10 years auburn has 3 sec championships and bama only has 2. I think him not winning the championship with bama this year actually makes it less likely he leaves. My guess is sumlin or briles. No amount of money is going to stop the texas boosters, its just going to be whether the coach wants to do it.
|1 week 3 days ago||The worst part of all of this||
The worst part of all of this is that nobody has even defected yet, people are flipping out because kids are saying there are some rumors about hoke being fired and they want to cover their bases, how is that something crazy?
There is a good chance we will lose a recruit or two before national signing day, it happens to everyone, alabama lost two recruits this past month. These are 17-18 year old kids, a lot can change in a year and this class has been full for a long time, it doesn't mean michigan will just go away.
|1 week 6 days ago||Our lb's were pretty||
Our lb's were pretty horrendous in passing situations all year and bit on play action a lot, obviously some of the issues in the running game stem from poor d-line play but there is no reason every te that played against us was wide open over the midle multiple times a game.
|1 week 6 days ago||Basketball, and anyone who||
Basketball, and anyone who says otherwise must only like football or have a huge inferiority complex when it comes to osu.
|2 weeks 14 hours ago||They also bring in more money||
They also bring in more money than michigans football program.
|2 weeks 18 hours ago||on tv it looked closer to 40%||
on tv it looked closer to 40% than anything else, pretty pathetic display by the season ticket holders.
|3 weeks 6 hours ago||Ok then and you are entitled||
Ok then and you are entitled to that opinion but that's not a title 9 debate that's a debate on the value of college athletics
|3 weeks 6 hours ago||Nobody watches any non||
Nobody watches any non revenue sports what are you not grasping about this. The issue that title 9 sought to correct was when sports that draw no interest or money get funded on the men's side but not the women's. Does men's baseball have higher attendance numbers than softball, what about the two swimming teams, cross country? Pre title 9 the men's versions of those where funded and not the women's despite nobody giving a fuck about them or wanting to watch them on tv.
|3 weeks 14 hours ago||I mean yeah sure if you want||
I mean yeah sure if you want to choose to ignore biology and just let everyone play together that would be technically equal. Though if we are both honest with ourselves a woman would not only have to be at least as good as her counter parts on the team but probably better than them by a lot to ever have a chance of breaking the gender stereotypes of people and getting on the team. (obviously a stupid movie but she's the man had this basic premise, girl was good enough to make team but guys laughed her off the field because she was a girl, once again stupid movie but probably an accurate reaction to what would happen to most women going out for the teams.)
|3 weeks 14 hours ago||NO IT DOEN"T (see I can use||
NO IT DOEN"T (see I can use all caps too).
Title 9 says you have to have the same number of male and femal scholarships, if you want that number to be zero fine, if you want that number to be 85 fine the whole point is that you can't have 200 male scholarships than female.
And before title 9 schools including michigan were left to their own devices about what to fund, and guess what, they all chose to lose money on male sports (baseball has never been revenue generating, neither has swimming) and not to do the same for femal sports. athletic departments had their chance and they fucked up, and honestly if given the chance would probably do it again, most schools (maybe not michigan but title 9 isn't targeted at us) would cut softball before baseball even if neither had won anything ever.
|3 weeks 14 hours ago||It probably wouldn't have a||
It probably wouldn't have a greater impact if you put it in needs based financial aide. And how the hell is running around with a football qualify you any more for academic aide then running around with a ball in a stick, you just like it more. I don't really give a fuck if a school chooses to only fund sports which make money, I give a fuck, and the federal government gives a fuck because schools were choosing to lose money on sports being played by males and saying it wasn't worth their time for sports being played by females. The entire point of title 9 is to remove gender bias in athletic departments. Beyond that what a school wants to give kids money to do is up to them as long as its not gender limited.
I brought up the positive impacts that funding sports can have because thats the entirety of the argument behind college athletics period. If you want to disregard that fine, then go the way of the ivy schools and stop giving out athletic scholarships. Should the kids on the football team practice squad really be recieving the same amount of money as lets say a denard? If you are only going by how much they bring back to the school say goodbye to 99% of athletic scholarships.
|3 weeks 15 hours ago||It's not illogical because||
It's not illogical because the premise of amateaur sports and especially college sports is that the athlete is recieving not money value in return. In college thats a chance at an education for a lot of people who may not normally be able to access it or afford it. At lower levels like high school it comes in pride and the lessons you learned. You can't measure the impact the title 9 has had if you don't look at how many high school girls teams were started after it was implemented. If you want to just call a spade a spade and pay athletes and rid ourselves of the idea that this exists for anything other than money than fine do that, but you better cut every sport that doesn't make money, even if that includes basketball or football and might as well stop asking the players to go to class.
And the Cal system worked because there were successful alumni of the golf program to pay for it, that wouldn't have been able to work for womens sports prior to title 9 because there were no alums of any sports teams to give back, and thats not really a suistanable model anyway.
|3 weeks 16 hours ago||Of course there are a lot of||
Of course there are a lot of issues that cause ticket prices to go higher, I'm just saying title 9 isn't one of those issues, if my ticket was going from 40 to 50 soley because of title 9 id be ok with it, the problem is that its starting way higher than it should.
|3 weeks 16 hours ago||Bo didn't like it because it||
Bo didn't like it because it took money away from the football team. He couldn't give two shits about the positive value it could have for women both in college and their lives leading up to and past college because he wanted as much money as possible going to football. It happens, doesn't make it right and I still stand by my point that this shows you are a football fan who chose michigan, not a michigan fan.
|3 weeks 16 hours ago||Nope all the girls on the||
Nope all the girls on the lacrosse team are on partial scholarships. And lol at giving a shit about value created. The reason title 9 was created is because schools were happy to sponsor boys sports that lost money but said it wasn't cost effective for girls. If you cut every sport at michigan that didn't bring in enough money to fund itself you would only have football, basketball (though without tv money thats tied in with football it probably gets cut by the end of the amaker years) and maybe hockey. Say goodbye to swimming, wrestling, softball, soccer, any other sport, and at a lot of schools one of football or basketball could be cut too. The rule should be that schools can either fund mens and womens scholarships equally for sports or can only have sports that pay for themselves. Title 9 exists so that schools cant pour money into baseball programs that amount to nothing but cut softball, and thats what the athletic landscape was before title 9.
|3 weeks 17 hours ago||I took it as he was upset||
I took it as he was upset that he was saying paying slightly inflated prices wasn't worth it because it wasn't going back to the football team and he'd rather pay lower prices and cut lacrosse funding, sorry if i misinterperted.
And I agree ticket prices are too high, but I'm also comfortable of allowing ads in the stadium as a revenue stream rather than having to keep increasing ticket prices so i'm in the minority on that one.
|3 weeks 17 hours ago||I mean you may not like it||
I mean you may not like it but yeah thats the point, if you don't like it, dont buy season tickets and stop saying you support michigan because clearly based on this post the only parts of michigan you care about are the big sports. If supporting the existence of another michigan team isn't worth it to you you aren't a michigan fan, you are a football fan who picked michigan for whatever reason.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Half the discussions on this||
Half the discussions on this board involve people arguing over who to blame for why we suck, why post this in a thread that points out how the players are still kids and should be supported regardless.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||So tell me, how does one||
So tell me, how does one become a fan of two different colleges for two different sports at which those teams happen to be at the top of?
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Would you really be upset if||
Would you really be upset if our team was 10-1 even with that being the schedule?
|3 weeks 2 days ago||I dislike rich rod and did||
I dislike rich rod and did since his days at wvu so maybe dismiss what I say, but to pretend like their isn't a huge difference between 3-9 and 6-6 is laughable, thats pretty much the exact value of a coach is whether they would take similar teams to different records. Also can't the same argument be said about hoke, how the hell is he supposed to win games without an offensive line? which is in fact entirely rich rods fault.