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|18 hours 28 min ago||A sparty no momemnt is what||
A sparty no momemnt is what we did against them this year, losing a game you should win in spectacular fashion.
|18 hours 50 min ago||Lets be honest, there is a||
Lets be honest, there is a better chance of Cook finishing this game than Hackenberg. The PSU oline is going to be like blocking dummies to the msu dline. Psu should just have their offense be shotgun bombs. It worked ok for rutgers.
|1 day 21 hours ago||It isn't happening, the only||
It isn't happening, the only trump card we had was beating two top 5 teams back to back and even then it would be an iffy argument to get in over a 1 loss team. At this point utah has a shot at not finishing outside the top 25 and osul could drop pretty far with another loss.
It also involves msu losing next, if this week taught as anything is that trusting anyone else to do your work for you is going to end in dissapointment. Beat osu and see what happens, not worth worrying about what other teams do until msu losses. Especially since if msu wins I don't want them in the playoff so I would end up rooting for opposit outcomes.
|1 day 23 hours ago||I was mostly suprised by how||
I was mostly suprised by how easiy msu could run the ball in that game. The offense was complete shit but you can try to blame some of that on the weather taking away the deep passing game which is msu's biggest weakness. For a team to give up 200 yards rusing when the passing game is zero threat is just getting punched in the face and folding.
|3 days 13 hours ago||I'm legit worried about hacks||
I'm legit worried about hacks health next week, so no.
|4 days 10 hours ago||The 1-3-1 is also a shit||
The 1-3-1 is also a shit defense used by ubathletic teams that no they can't stop anyone straight up and hope to cause enough turnovers to off set all the easy shots they are giving up. When you are turning to it to try to get key defensive stops for an entire half you see what happened to Michigan this game. We need a better defensive coach on the roster.
|4 days 10 hours ago||Michigan has had shit||
Michigan has had shit basketball fans for a while, that wasn't really a new issue this game.
|4 days 11 hours ago||Every team with a competent||
Every team with a competent center is a bad match up right now, that's a lot of teams. We haven't had a good defensive game yet this year. The team obviously has plenty of time to turn it around but blaming what happened tonight on a bad match up is sticking your head in the sand about this teams issues.
|4 days 11 hours ago||Got punched in the face and||
Got punched in the face and folded. The team got outplayed, out worked, out desired, and Xavier was more athletic. Unless the team suddenly can play defense the ceiling on this team is way lower than we thought it was.
|5 days 18 hours ago||Yes it is possible to get||
Yes it is possible to get faster in college put you pulled that stat from an article literally talking about how on a whole players in fact do not get faster during college and the ones that do are the exception. You proved my point better than I did, so thank!
|5 days 18 hours ago||They do? I've heard||
They do? I've heard otherwise. Denard had a 40 time in high school of 4.39 and he ran a 4.32 at the combine and his personal best 100 meter time was a 10.44 in high school even though he ran track while at Michigan. Its hard to maintain the same speed when you start putting on the muscle a college S&C program gets you to deal with the added physicality.
|5 days 18 hours ago||He was under 50% for||
He was under 50% for completions on the game, they hit some really big plays but unless you would say the michigan secondary was a sieve against msu this year than I would disagree with your chareterization.
|5 days 18 hours ago||I mean Tebow's stats the year||
I mean Tebow's stats the year they won a playoff game
46.5% compeletion percentage at 6.4 a pop with 12 tds and 6 ints.He had a QBR of 29.5 that year. Having a great defense doesn't make you a great qb. Hell Trent Dilfer won a super bowl while guiding an offense that didn't score a touchdown for 3 straight games at one point that year. Team wins don't define qb play. They won 5 games that year scoring under 20 points. They also lost a game 7-3.
Denard has alse been a solid rb, but he wouldn't have been a good qb. There are no facts or statistics that can show Tebow having success in the NFL and as much as you claim Josh McDaniels saw in Tebow he got cut from the Patriots since apparently Mcdaniles didn't even think he was good enough to be the backup qb.
Sure some people bust, thats part of sports, but just like recruiting rankings the overall trend points to them being right a vast majority of the time. Not sure how anything I have said could be construed as childish but sure, keep slingling insults as the mature adult in this discussion.
|5 days 19 hours ago||His recruiting profile, I||
His recruiting profile, I know its old but its was also probably inflated so I figured an increase in speed over the last 3 years is about the same as inflated high school stats, guys pretty rarely get significantly faster during college as they add muscle to handle the game better. Which is another potential problem for Lewis at the next level which is his frame, he would be a super skinny db at the nfl level.
edit to add it is his espn recruiting profile and the 40 time listed is 4.68 which was from a timed forty at army all-american game.
|5 days 19 hours ago||1 game is not having success||
1 game is not having success in the nfl, thats a multi year thing to achieve. Being the 25th pick isn't high for a guy who held multiple records and is considered by some to be one of the most succesful college players of all time. And you haven't refuted any of the overall points my post made which is to say that college numbers neither gaurantee a high draft nor success in the nfl. These scouts make a lot of money because they tend to be right and can look past just statistics. It takes a different level of athlete to succeed on the nfl level. The fact that lewis is the 8th best cb prospect despite being the most accomplished this year is a reflection of that, I'm not sure why that is a difficult concept to grasp.
Jourdan Lewis could both be an all-american this year and the 8th best pro prospect, both can simaltaneously happen and both be correct.
|5 days 19 hours ago||Jimmy Smith is the ravens #1||
Jimmy Smith is the ravens #1 CB, he is in the top half of the league but not truly elite and was drafted something like 22nd. He is 6'2 and runs a timed 4.47 40. Jourdan Lewis is a generous 5'10 and runs a 4.6. He is a really smart player but when you are going up against 6'4 wr's with 4.4 speed those physical limitations matter a lot less. You see that wr in college maybe once a year and probably not at all, a lot of nfl teams have multiple guys at least 6 ft that run under 4.6s. Its a different level athletically and that is what will hold Lewis back. His place in the nfl is probably as nickel back covering slot guys who run sub 4.4s in the combine, that isn't a 1st rd grade.
|5 days 20 hours ago||Yeah I'm sure they won that||
Yeah I'm sure they won that game because of tebow. He is so good, thats why he is the starting qb for the jets right now too, oh wait.
|5 days 20 hours ago||There are six more athletic||
There are six more athletic cbs, not necessarily playing better in college. I hate when people try start shit like this. Tim Tebow has some of the best stats of any college qb ever. Denard Robinson was a successful college qb with crazy yardage totals. Hawaii qbs broke ncaa passing records for years. None of those guys were top draft picks or proved anyone wrong for not drafting them. Putting up great numbers in college doesn't mean you will be the best in the nfl, its a different game with a different level of athlete. Burbridge is probably a 3rd or 4th rd wr who will probably be at best a 4th wr for the first couple of years in the league and he and jourdan lewis played to about a stalemate. If you are picking a db in the first round its someone you hope to be able to putt on antonio brown in 3 years. I love lewis but he probably doesn't project to be that guy.
|5 days 21 hours ago||Yeah I'm sure those guys||
Yeah I'm sure those guys won't out athlete channing stribling or jeremy clark either. Thats what happens when you play good teams, they create matchup problems and you have to scheme to your best ability out of that. Michigan had some defensive line issues against indiana but the scheme didn't help either.
|5 days 23 hours ago||That psu lady is a super||
That psu lady is a super homer if she thinks Hackenberg looked good in that maryland game. The MD secondary is terrible and he had an under 50% completion percentage. He just threw the ball up and prayed and md sucked, I watched that game.
Franklin is a lot like Hoke, good recruiter but when you are beating army by 6 at home, lose to northwestern and beat maryland by 1 I wouldn't feel great about the coaching of the team.
|6 days 58 min ago||Well if Ben gedeon gets hurt||
Well if Ben gedeon gets hurt we have no lb options with any playing time. There are other roster spots that are way thinner than qb.
|6 days 18 hours ago||We already are tight in this||
We already are tight in this class and might need some creative roster management to get all the recruits we want in. Not sure where the space this recruiting class comes from unless there is massive attrition of the team.
|6 days 19 hours ago||You can't use 7 scholarships||
You can't use 7 scholarships on a position that hopefully only sees one guy play a year. Sure its great to have depth but at some point its overloading resources. If you take Taysom Hill it means you don't think much of O'korn or Speight or Gentry or Malzone or Peters or possibly even Shane. The only reason you take him is if all of those guys suck and if they all suck we are screwed anyways because Taysom Hill is guaranteed to get injured.
|6 days 21 hours ago||I'm not as bullish as you||
I'm not as bullish as you guys are about Robinson yet. Shooting isn't just shooting, look at Stauskas in the NBA right now, his 3 point percentage is terrible because the guys guarding him are now more athletic than him. I'm not worried about what Robinson brings to the table against Elon, I'm worried about what happens to him when we play msu or osu or maryland, especially on the defensive side where he is already getting abused, against a player like Jake Layman he may be so bad at defense as to be unplayable even if he is hitting his shots.
The defense worries me but I think the offense gets even better with Irvin back, so that is awesome.
|1 week 10 hours ago||At least 3 final fours and a||
At least 3 final fours and a national championship. That's a pretty solid average. People have really short memories.
|1 week 12 hours ago||How are we ahead of Utah?||
How are we ahead of Utah? They beat us head to head. You can play this game with any two individual teams. It's why the eye test matters.
|1 week 12 hours ago||You play like shit and this||
You play like shit and this is what happens, the eye test matters and Indiana and Minnesota games make us look more like a fraud top 15 team and less like a dark horse top 4 team. It isn't just about winning once you have two losses. It's about winning in a way that makes people think those were flukes.
|1 week 12 hours ago||If you go last 20 years ucla||
If you go last 20 years ucla still has a period of 3 straight final fours and a national champiomship, or north Carolina who has routinely embarrassed msu, but yes msu has been good the last 20 years.
|1 week 20 hours ago||He gets like 200-250 yards of||
He gets like 200-250 yards of offense throws at least 1 pick and the offense still scores under 20 ish points against most defenses with a pulse? I guess with that defense they win more games but I don't think Denard 2010 as a qb on the 2006 team suddenly gets us wins over osu or usc.
|1 week 21 hours ago||You are right that osu was a||
You are right that osu was a big game, they were also 6-6 that year. I was picking stats from games against good teams, not just rivalry games and 2011 osu wasn't a good team. Rich Rod offenses shredded bad teams and faltered against good ones so comparing yearlong stats doesn't do much for me. I don't really care about Denards stats against bowling green or indiana, I care about how he performed as a qb in games against competitive teams. and comparing that to Henne in games against competitive teams.
Put it another way, Henne never has a game where he only throws for 87 yards. If your goal is to win a championship that can't be an option.