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|3 hours 43 min ago||Wasn't it earlier this year||
Wasn't it earlier this year that Brian or ace published a graph about how age doesn't correlate to success in college basketball? It's a different game then football and it's about having the best players not older players because you can't physically dominate like in football. Bradley beal is a top 10 sg in the nba and he is 21. Waiting for your team to mature isn't the right strategy in basketball. Russell is the best player in the big ten and is making osu better than a senior craft would or did.
|3 hours 47 min ago||Anyone saying that is||
Anyone saying that is complete crap. We went after half of osus class this year but lost out to them. It wasn't that beilein didn't like bates diop or Tate it's that they picked ohio state over Michigan. Any talk about beilein just wanting higher quality guys is complete crap, he went after a lot of top guys in 2014 and 2015 and just didn't get them.
|14 hours 22 min ago||Yeah when all your friends go||
Yeah when all your friends go out to dinner and you can't or they plan a trip and you can't go or by the time you get off work they are already out and drunk. The list of things is endless but if you didn't have to worry about it you never think about it and that's the issue.
|14 hours 31 min ago||I know your being asinine but||
I know your being asinine but Donovan has a longer track record of more success than beilein and has also continued to recruit better to continue to put himself in a position to compete for national championships which is what this thread is about. Not current play of the team.
|14 hours 33 min ago||I'm not holding beilein||
I'm not holding beilein accountable for anything those are your words. I'm commenting on a lack of recruiting success and likening it to the downfall of another great coach I watched. I think beilein also recognizes this which is why he tried to get booker and Blackmon and Tate and bates-diop. Maar and Dawkins weren't overlooked guys beilein found and preferred, they were back up options when he didn't land the guys he wanted.
I hope to god beilein turns around and continues to keep the team elite. That is just much less likely if he keeps not getting the players he really wants. Recruiting is part of his job too.
|22 hours 6 min ago||We've had 2 really great||
We've had 2 really great years but are now looking at 3 straight years of mediocre recruiting. Winston is no lock. We are actually in Brown's top 7 since he can visit the Georgia schools without officials. Most people think Towns is ticketed for OSU eventually. My pessimism comes from the fact that going into the year we seemed to be the favorites for a bunch of these guys and now are just in the top groups since the Kentucky's and Dukes of the world have joined in which like what happened with Booker generally means we don't get them.
|22 hours 10 min ago||Justin Anderson was ranked||
Justin Anderson was ranked 49th in the country. That recruting class which is now juniors had 3 top 100 4 star players. The year before that, which are the current seniors had a 3 man class with two top 100 players. Don't let their slow boring ass style fool you, Virginia is loaded with top 100 talent upperclassmen. It is actually the last few recruiting classes that have not been loaded and it will be interesting to see what happens when the current juniors rotate out.
|22 hours 18 min ago||Lol at calling me a brat, ok.||
Lol at calling me a brat, ok. To get to your post it isn't about what has happened in the last 5 years but looking to the future. We could lost out this year and Beilein still has done incredible things and saved michigan basketball but sports is constantly a what have you done for me lately. It is the harsh reality of sports but if we are mediocre for the next 4 years it won't matter what we did over the past 4 years that is just how it is. You get paid millions of dollars to do something you are expected to continue to do it well on a consistent basis.
|22 hours 40 min ago||I do trust coach B. The only||
I do trust coach B. The only issue is that he also wanted ja'sean tate and keita bates-diop and devin booker and james blackmon more. Beilein thought all of those players were better than duncan robinson, MAAR and Dawkins. That isn't too say he won't be able to succeed with them but this isn't about trusting Beilein because he is passing over a higher rated recruit for a lower rated one it is being worried that he keeps having to go back to his second and third choices because he can't get the guys he really wants.
|23 hours 50 min ago||I mean I get that Florida is||
I mean I get that Florida is having a down year this year but they have been to 4 straight elite eights and a final four and donovan has two national championships all at age 49. In the last 10 years Florida has 3 final fours, 2 championships, 3 additional elite 8 appearances not including the the final four runs so 6 elite eights in 10 years. I think I can say I want that run of sucess over the next 7 years even if you include this years results.
|1 day 6 min ago||I'm not complaining about||
I'm not complaining about what he delivered, they named the court after him for a reason and if Beilein retired tomorrow he has done great things for Michigan. What I'm worried about is that the next 5 years look like the last 5 years of Gary's career, solid teams with sporadic upsets of top teams but never any expectation or belief that they play past the second weekend of the tourney.
|1 day 17 min ago||Also I mentioned Florida in||
Also I mentioned Florida in an earlier response on this thread about that is what I wish we were seeing and capitlizing on the run of success and holy hell is Donovan a great coach. Easily top 5 and only 49 years old.
|1 day 31 min ago||I'm hoping I'm wrong my point||
I'm hoping I'm wrong my point is that it is difficult to keep winning doing that. Hell that is why Beilein left west virginia, he couldn't recruit the playes he wanted to get them over the hump.
|1 day 34 min ago||Yes. You'll never find a guy||
Yes. You'll never find a guy who coached more passionatley from the bench than him.
|1 day 37 min ago||That was a great class that||
That was a great class that busted but it was pretty much the only one and gary actually never brought in a mcdonalds all american.
|1 day 39 min ago||My point is that I have seen||
My point is that I have seen this before. It is really hard to win the NCAA tourney without elite talent and when you see teams make a run with a bunch of under recruited players it is almost always for a year or two span before they drop off. Mark Few is a really good coach but Gonzaga has never made the final four, Butler has been good but not great for a decade now and outside of their two title runs in back to back years is a team you expect to upset a team then lose. I want to be less like those teams who continue to bring in the same caliber of players even after their success and can't sustain being elite even though they are good and more like Florida who turned their big 2 years into 4 straight elite 8 trips and strong success on the recruiting trail with multiple 5 stars and 4 top 100 players last year.
|1 day 51 min ago||Beilein is probably a better||
Beilein is probably a better developer of players but I have to disagree with your assesment of gary williams as an in game coach. I love Beilein but his strict adherence to his foul policy and the slow starts to games and halves that have plagued his team on top of usually pretty mediocre defense puts him behing Gary in in game coaching to me.
|1 day 4 hours ago||Small collisions between||
Small collisions between linemen have the cumulative effect of a major consussion. You'd have to remove line play too if you are trying to remove these issues. Big hits aren't the problem that people make them out to be it is the repeated head trauma.
|1 day 4 hours ago||There are varying levels of||
There are varying levels of CTE. It is possible that most players suffer from some sort of brain damage. It wasn't until recently that they realized that the repeated small truamas to the head of linemen could be as damaging as a concussion. Every study that comes out points to more players having brain trauma as a result of football. Not sure why your head is so far in the sand as to the reality of that.
|2 days 30 min ago||In defens of Neal and his||
In defens of Neal and his parents someone sitting down in your home and pretty much saying you could never hope to attend Michigan if it wasn't for this scholarship offer for football could certainly come across as insulting. Obviously having good grades is no gaurantee or anything but I could see how somebody could be offended by that.
|3 days 57 min ago||Not unless it is to a 1-AA||
Not unless it is to a 1-AA school. He already used his redshirt, transferring would give him only one more year of basketball.
|3 days 3 hours ago||He can barely dunk. And I'm||
He can barely dunk. And I'm sorry to the guy who said Beilein is the best coach in the country he doesn't teach defense well enough for that to be true. Pitino and Calipari are both sleezeballs but if you are talking straight coaching ability I'd have to put at least both of them above john. I'd rather have beilein as our coach because of the whole package but there is no need for hyperbole.
|3 days 4 hours ago||We managed to win the most||
We managed to win the most games in the big ten over the last 3 years with basically just jordan morgan (Mcgary was always injured and Horford never developed) because the college game is a guard dominated league. Using four scholarships on non elite big men is forcing your gaurds to go over 35 minutes a game because there is no way to have the depth behind them.
|3 days 4 hours ago||I'm not sure I like this||
I'm not sure I like this move. I think Beilein is over reacting to not seeing donnal progress as much as he thought he would. This missing key to this team isn't an athletically mediocre center with good hands it is missing slashers who can get to the rim and finish and a defensive presence who can alter shots and vacuum in rebounds. If you can't get that guy in 2015 bank that scholarship like it seemed they would and move on.
I think this is a bad sign about how they feel about the centers on the roster (donnal) but also about how they feel with the elite 2016 recruits we are in for and that would be killer. 2016 can't be a bad recruiting year if we want to remain a top team.
|6 days 23 hours ago||I know we all love Harbuagh||
I know we all love Harbuagh and he is a great coach and that was a great win but that team still finished the year 4-8 with some pretty big blow out losses. He was building a program but I don't think that years Stanford is the reason to point to how great a season they had. If you want to say it proves he can beat anyone sure but there have plenty of upsets in college football and it rarely means something.
|1 week 1 hour ago||Doesn't it make more sense to||
Doesn't it make more sense to count how many different QB's from a school played in a superbowl rather than how many each one started? Obviously makes Michigan look worse but if you are trying to claim to be the cradle of quarterbacks it might help to have sent more than one really good qb to the super bowl. It is more impressive if 6 different Qb's from a school go to a superbowl than one QB 6 times.
|1 week 1 hour ago||If you believe you are the||
If you believe you are the best other commitments do not matter to you. Alabama brings in the top running backs in the country every year, doesn't stop people from commiting to them.
|1 week 3 hours ago||Kate Upton? They were||
Kate Upton? They were talking about Spike's number.
|1 week 4 hours ago||Didn't a former QB come out||
Didn't a former QB come out and say that with a deflated ball and better grip he could throw the ball 10 yards further? Your insights while helpful have been played out in the real world and at least QB's think that they can throw a deflated ball further, indiciating that your 2nd and 3rd points have neglible effect on the flight off the ball while the improved grip makes a much larger difference.
|1 week 4 hours ago||I mean if you want to get||
I mean if you want to get really technical about it a softer football is easier to grip and thus make you less likely to fumble. But yeah anyone arguing that it changed the outcome of this game is lying to themselves.