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Among 2684 baseline…

Among 2684 baseline seronegative participants (94% HIV-negative and 6% HIV-positive), predominantly mild-to-moderate Covid-19 developed in 15 participants in the vaccine group and in 29 in the placebo group (vaccine efficacy, 49.4%; 95% confidence interval [CI], 6.1 to 72.8).

You must be getting dizzy up…

I mean, good point.

Can you direct us to the…

Can you direct us to the scientific paper that establishes that a new virus was discovered in a sick person, that it was isolated, grown in a culture, and then put back into another person (or animal)and caused the same disease? That would help convince a lot of the skeptics. 

What is it, the flu?

What is it, the flu?

Great presser by the coach…

Great presser by the coach. He knows to stay focused on positives and building on the good things, of which there were many. After a rocky start, solid defense, good play from not one but TWO quarterbacks, and that with a new center, receivers looked excellent, line still a work in progress in some areas, but that's life. All that against a very good team at night on the road. Coach is right to stay positive. 

For about 7 billion people

a Michigan footbal NC would be irrelevant. So does it "have meaning" or not? 

"Meaning" can only be subjective

so it's impossible for anyone to decide what, in itself, has or doesn't have meaning. Perhaps you mean, "lacking implications I consider important."  

Did not check the "body of work"

but that's a good way to explain it. Baseless speculation is not "opinion," and, having no basis, could just as easily be positive, but never is. Why?   

 

Great story

Good things happen. He's Coach Harbaugh's kind of multi-sport athlete. 

Nice analysis

Thanks for the input. 

Why should you "feel"

anything about it at all? It has nothing to do with you. Why not relax, buddha, and pull for your team?

That's a gentile way to put it.

Shows one can make a remark without being unpleasant, especially since a.) we don't KNOW how things will turn out, and b.) nobody on this board knows anything that isn't based on hearsay, or a clip, or some "rating service" with all their own biases. One should be especially careful talking about young people. That's basic consideration. 

Have you considered the "weird desperation"

may be an internal thing? 

"We'll never win the NC if we don't..."

Not yet tired of banging that drum?

Can you give an example?

I've heard this complaint before. I don't mind a well thought out argument on any subject, negative or positive, but the negative ones are virtually never reasonable. People's "critiques" claim to identify the causes of problems, but they have no concept of evidence and no data, i.e. amateurs with no background expertise about what's likely or probable in a given situation, and no first hand knowledge either. It just amounts to bitching about outcomes.  

How any casual fan can be bothered

to get exercised about a "recruiting class" is beyond me. The coaches do the best they can. What else is there to say? Even the top recruits are still hit or miss. You have to wait till they play.   

There's no excuse for you.

Your phony, know-it-all "but i'm an impartial observer just askin' questions" pose is nauseating. Some comment from 247 Sports? Who the F are they? If you really wanted knoweldge you'd get off your ass, stop trolling for dirt on Michigan's coaches, get in the field, or like a proper journalist, since you're so interested in other people, go ASK the coaches what they do in their job, the details of recent hits and misses, and their approach. Instead you sit there and quote some stupid website as a way to come on here and passive-aggressively bash Michigan's coaches.

So concerned there buddy?

Why not make a report to the board of education? It can start out, “Internet message boards say our coaches don’t’ work hard enough.” They’ll appreciate it more than we do. Maybe you can get a job as a full-time snitch.

No, no, he’s a concern troll.

Sits in his basement eating paste, gathering “information” in order to trash people from behind the keyboard in a slimy, insinuating way, implying people don’t “work hard,” trying to look like the intelligent concerned citizen when in fact he’s just a troll.

 

Isn't "just an observation"

the very definition of "passive aggressive"?

How great I inspired you

to read my old posts. Made my day!

Have you spent one minute at a Michigan practice?

Talked to a single player he has coached? Ever played or coached? Religious experience watching a Baylor game, a press conference, and hours at home surfing the internet are no basis for criticizing people in the profession. Couch jockey's like yourself used to be embarrassed to criticize people who actually do the job.

And do you actually think Jim Harbaugh hires coaches carelessly?

"I've heard nothing to suggest..." blah, blah, blah. Read enough, thanks. You think you're adding something? 

You raise some concerns, but

you also admit you know nothing, have no experience, and are only guessing based on a few press conferences. So you can take heart knowing you're probably wrong about everything, and the rest of us can stop reading your posts.

 

My all-time favorite avatar

Do you think he figures that crosses are normally small, so people will be fooled into thinking that his belly, next to that cross, is also small?   

My main goal in life, at this point, is not to look like this guy. :-)

Didn't it open up

some other stuff though...?

 

Great post on the offense, btw. 

Mostly?

What else do you see?

Well, that settles it.

Is this how you arrive at all your opinions?

It's amazing

that people find time in the day to worry about this.

Is this

meant to be ironic?

Where does this "right to be upset" come from?

The rights fairy?   

I'd hope your username reflects a certain self-awareness But before spilling your guts on the internet everytime Michigan misses on a recruit, why don't you spend a week inside the program talking to people who actually do these jobs to find out if "lazy recruiting" in any sense matches reality, and spare us another know-it-all dis of the program.
Formally... All morons use Twitter I do not use Twitter. Therefore, I am not a moron. A very helpful form of self-assessment.
So NFL scouts are incapable of watching Big Ten football?
Great comment Would love to see the "smug moron" picture.
Right ...but as a school, you're choosing Alabama over Michigan. Think about it.
We're getting there Watch the OLine play. The last game Onwenu was a juggernaut through the hole, as everybody saw. He's so big he doesn't necessarily have to block anybody; defenders either clear out or simply can't get around him. Never seen that before. And on some of those power plays, the tight ends are manhandling people. There are still some bad misses, but in general the run game is picking up.
I guess it's in your username But srsly, why is there always some sad sack that can take a great thing like Kalis playing in the NFL and turn it into some a-hole comment about the program. What rock are you people under the rest of the time?
Great coach speak imitation

But what else can he say? You keep working to get better, deal with the people and the situation you have. That's leadership. That people who have been watching sports for years are still on the "backup quarterback" issue is just shockingly stupid. "Put in the backup QB." That's the oldest cliche in sports. They have a bunch of games left and have to play the best guy.

Are you accountable for spelling "accountability"?

Or does it only go one way? Did you miss the irony lesson as well? 

 

Michigan's ok

I thought the team looked fine, Penn State was just better. It's sports. It happens. Why all the angst every time Michigan loses a game? College football has turnover, so there are up and down years. Michigan's young defense got shown up, but the offense is getting better. O'Korn ran well, stepped up and hit some open receivers. Pass pro is still a struggle but the receivers got open a little this time. Still got a ways to go, but young teams improve as the season goes on. 

O'Korn's only had three starts I'm hoping he'll settle down. He's a bit high strung, which isn't necessarily bad, but it's not surprising he's too amped up at first. People on this board write off any chance of improvement, just as with Rudock and Speight.
So it's not Harbaugh.... It's DREVNO! Well, at least now we know.
This may be... the funniest thing I've ever read.
Bread and circuses The plebs don't like the circus. Wait till we run out of bread...
What post are YOU reading? You might check the text, conveniently still posted, in which I said "he didn't cost Michigan the game," referring to the Indiana game, which is demonstrably true, since Michigan won. No picks, no fumbles. Either one of those WOULD likely have cost Michigan the game. Not great, not horrible, and Michigan won their 500th Big Ten game. And it's only his third start. No picks and no fumbles but the worst performance in Michigan history? Also demonstrably untrue. Why exaggerate? If you're an oldster you'll remember how traditionally people show some class and moderate comments about their own players since, you know, it's your OWN TEAM, and you support the players ESPECIALLY when they struggle, since you need them for the rest of the season. It's easy to sit on your couch and trash people.
O'Korn might get better He's only had a couple starts and he's got happy feet, but with more playing time he may settle down. And no picks today. He didn't COST Michigan the game either, so there are things he's doing right.
Sunshine patriots out in force today Good experience for the guys today in a tough game and tough conditions. They'll bounce back.
Morally wrong? You're joking, right? This whole melodrama was annoying last year. Coach was right to cut him. The kid is too busy to camp once for Jim Harbaugh? Any serious athlete would bust his ass for that new staff as many times as they ask. You go to BOTH camps. You do what your coach says, period. But Harbaugh gives him the benefit of the doubt when the kid says "evaluate my senior tape instead," and then his senior year he REGRESSES, but still expects a spot? I'd expect to be cut, but the staff politely suggests in December that he look around, but he can't take hint. Does it need to be spelled out? And then it's supposed to be Michigan's fault when in January it gets to be too late to get another team, so off he goes to the press. Where's the self-responsibility? It's shocking that anyone here would take the kid's side, much less this holier than thou attitude. Who would tell Bo Schembechler his high school summer schedule is too full to work out? Can you imagine what Bo would say? "Bye bye scholarship," is what he'd say. "Loyal for two years" is another ridiculous point. How loyal is it not to do what your coach asks? All such offers are condtional, but he acted like he was entitled to it, even when it was given by a different coach. No offense to the kid, but at every point he revealed a basic attitude problem. Harbaugh should never take such a player.
The Jim Harbaugh obsession is amazing...

He's obviously a great coach but let's just say, and I don't necessarily blame him for this, a "volatile situation" is created wherever he goes. Why would it be any different at Michigan? What's been his longest stay at any head coaching job? Four years? How long would he be at Michigan before he pisses everyone off? Again, I'm not blaming him for this, but his intensity, his best quality and the reason he wins, wears on people. He doesn't care if you like him or not, and he won't give the warm and fuzzy press conferences fans here seem to need.

Has he said he even wants to coach college football again? And what happens in three years when the Colts or the Bears or whoever offers him their "head coaching and GM" job? Everything about him suggests he goes for the new challenge. People have some knight-in-shining-armor fantasy for this guy, like if we only get Harbaugh we've solved our football problems forever, but there's nothing to suggest that's the case.

What's clear about it?

A quick look at the rosters of Ohio St, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Minnesota, Rutgers, Iowa, and Northwestern shows that, on offense at least, we're a lot younger than all of them. The only team with comparable player experience on offense is, not suprisingly, Penn State, the one good team we were able to handle.

So how is it so clear that coaching, and not player experience, is the problem?