|2 weeks 2 days ago||Joe-Pa Stadium is in the works...||
wait for it.
|4 weeks 19 hours ago||The Once and Future King by T. H. White||
A truly great read.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||This is a good point...Witherspoon had previous contact with||
Rutgers which helped. Witherspoon took an online class that didn't pass muster not to mention he was a LC recruit into a RR system. Andersen probably started this recruitment as well for Wisconsin...there is some ability for coaches to work with admissions as long as all i's are dotted and t's crossed (which is hard to do in a coaching change - though this CC was all about this very issue.)
|5 weeks 2 days ago||This comes down to how transparent Wisconsin has been...||
If they laid it on the line then Stevenson could arrange a backup plan. If they are coming from out of the blue then this is crazy.
Clearly Wisconsin is doing admission differently from others. We haven't had a late fail like this in my memory. Demar Dorsey happened fairly quickly as i recall. Granted the issues were much more black and white for Dorsey.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Suttons Bay - old system still||
2 minute wait for boat tags. When this system hits small towns...singularity is nye.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||On the Lake in Leelanau...||
measuring 64 degrees in the water outside the cottage... the best AC on the planet. Coming from the NW where it's been crazy/historically hot this is the life. Michigan is where it's at.
As soon as I post this... the rain starts...it's hard being a Michigan fan.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Agree on disagree - but CTE <> Concussion||
A lack of correlation is a correlation as well...I suppose. I agree if you plot CTE vs. Concussion/TBI you will get a number that suggestive of correlation. If you plot CTE vs. TBI severity or occurence you probably get a number that is less suggestive but still pretty high.. That is coincidence however. Subconcussive blows are a precursor of CTE as well. It's not clear why it develops in some cases and not others. If we take concussions out of the game we are still going to have CTE.
SF Wolverine equates concussion and CTE. That is what I was responding to before stepping into the correlation/causation morass. To address the morass is to define concussion - which in the study of CTE at least is problematic.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Many people are wrong||
Evidence for past concussion is a problem for any researcher. Coincident yes, often coincident again yes, correlate no. Sub concussive blows are needed precursors as CTE exists in cases without concussion. To equate the two is wrong.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Concussion <> CTE||
They do not even correlate.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||If you can type out your posts with your beak than it's possible||
MeanJoe is making do w/o thumbs and dexterity.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||No||
Not if the full medical record is shared. Too much liability.
It's odd that Pipkins thinks this is a scholarship issue, but Harbaugh is not going to waste a scholarship (ie a walk on would use it.) This is clearly a serious medical issue (probably concussion related) and Pipkins is not aware of the risk. The fact that he feels fine is not relevant.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Fireworks in Munising are second to none||
Great place for a fourth of July pre/post Pictured Rocks.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Nice site and writeup...||
I will add this to my feed... thanks
|11 weeks 2 days ago||Um... we've done that before... that is where the Zoo got them||
to begin with...
But point taken... Mich could do it if they wanted.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||I say Michigan donates to http://refugeassociation.org...||
in the amount it would take to house and maintain a Wolverine in A^2 and calls it good.
This would probably cost tens of thousands of dollars and have less chance of a negative publicity experience (Wolverines are extremely exotic pets and the care would not only be $$$ - but it could go south at anytime creating a publicity fiasco.)
|11 weeks 2 days ago||This guy looks great... esp. like blocking at 3:25||
If he picks up weight and technique - it's all good.
|12 weeks 9 hours ago||Yes... Fuck Cancer...||
Sorry for your loss. 25 years is an inspiration. Thanks for sharing this.
|12 weeks 1 day ago||This is interesting only as a negative portent on Mack...||
|12 weeks 1 day ago||This is where the gold is found in these camps...||
the south is a deep and football crazy place. I hope the fundamentals stick here and this turns into something. I can't believe the coaches had time to review transcripts on such a whirlwind tour for untouted recruits.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||Mystery recruit...|
|13 weeks 4 days ago||Coach seems a bit awkward here...||
There is more to sell and Harbaugh has no excuses to make but he seems to be throwing from his back foot here.
Wins and a lot of work make this go away. Good to see him out making contact.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||He's going for the ball||
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Muggle||
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Phone #s and email are changable/filterable/blockable...||
making a human connection with a possible recruit or advocate is worth taking chances. JH takes chances.
I think he's underestimating trolls. Unfortunately Jim doesn't have the Secret Service to investigate threatening communications like the POTUS does.
All that said... I applaud this move. I question it's longevity given the constraints of time... but dang...there is nothing humanly and legally possible that JH will not do to win.
I will not call or email until Michigan wins the National Championship. Until then he has my silent stamp of approval as HC of Michigan Football.
What is he going to do next week? Hopefully spend QT with his family. He never quits.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Looking forward to the MSU game...||
The play calling is going to be fun to watch.
I would like to be a fly on the wall in the video room breaking down these spring games. These posts make that happen if only for a few minutes. Personnel get moved around in the spring games but the nuts and bolts of fall offense are installed and reinforced here. This is a savvy way to pick out trends.
Great write up.
|14 weeks 3 days ago||Let it all out Miggle...||
|15 weeks 2 days ago||She is living a good life...tribulation is treasure...||
enjoy every minute with her with the respect, honor and good humor she deserves. Some of my deepest joy and most profound moments have come in the final hours of loved ones who have knowingly suffered before their time. Best to you sadeto, to her and her family.
|15 weeks 3 days ago||One Moran is all you truly need...?||
How about Gussie...that ought to do it.
|16 weeks 11 hours ago||Stop watching the show and read the books...||
I thought it was worth every page. I basically stopped all other reading to plow through the series. I don't regret a minute...time well spent.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||I will use your website...||
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Contact info below...||
tss.mgoblog(at)gmaildotcom and we can go from there. Thanks
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Contact info below...||
tss.mgoblog(at)gmaildotcom and we can go from there. Thanks
|16 weeks 3 days ago||Woof...||
|16 weeks 3 days ago||Yada Yada Yada... Mike Scott threw an ungodly split finger||
and yes probably scuffed a ball or two. Monitor the balls more closely... next...
|16 weeks 4 days ago||Defenses adjusted to Kaepernick and he didn't have the||
skills to answer. Harbaugh would have worked that out this year and arguably did last season. The right calls were made. Colin just didn't have the accuracy to deliver the deep and middle routes that would have hit the D where they sacrificed to cover Kaepernick's threats.
Kaepernick's slide is not on Harbaugh. The opportunity to succeed was there. The plan was a good one. Colin is far from washed up and will never be below average, but he is ridden with vulnerabliity until he ups his game.
|16 weeks 4 days ago||I have no issues with Seattle at this point...||
so they didn't hit the PR target. Clark's story is only just begun. There are deeper evils in the game of football than Frank Clark. The only one who can help him is ... him. Leave him to his work, judge him on his actions going forward at this point. If another incident arises... then judgement on Seattle can begin in earnest.
This is Frankly too much... IMO.
|17 weeks 3 days ago||Portland||
|17 weeks 3 days ago||Sexualized culture is new||
I'm not saying people didn't have sex in the day but the sexual content young kids are exposed to nowadays makes me blush.
Identification is another issue with heightened and earlier exposure in American culture. I can't really comment on band sub culture.
|18 weeks 2 days ago||What is the difference between the A and B team?...||
Do they practice together?
|18 weeks 3 days ago||Yes and No... some people don't have strong family role models||
and those few are sometimes saved by their athletics. Coaches, teammates and school administrators can and do play a vital role in turning lives around - granted it is rare when family values aren't strong.
|18 weeks 3 days ago||45 comments in and no politics...||
in the meantime...how does this affect Nasier Upshur's top 13? Or should I say 12?
|18 weeks 3 days ago||The argument for youth football fails IMO...||
This creates a problem for HS, College and Pro in terms of talent.
Tom Brady didn't play youth football, but if no one plays then skills are taught later and talent finds other venues.
There still isn't enough data to plot a safe course for football, but there is no risk free path in life. The issue is with kids who are too young to understand the risk. Already the demographics are skewed to the disadvantaged (which is another lesson of football BTW - everyone is equal on the field of play.)
No one person in my opinion understands the risks... only parts. The rewards for youth football can be garnered in other less risky sports. HS can be played safely... I think...but I honestly don't know. The vast majority of all players are injury free in HS and College...again I think.
The toughness meme is passe. It's time to play smart. Tagliabue set us on this course with a decade of denial. I'm not sure it can be righted in the manner it should. Things are changing quickly now on all fronts.
|18 weeks 4 days ago||Agree service and sacrifice trump sports every time...||
I don't think JH would take issue with that.
Rather he would say the seeds for both are sowed in sport.
|18 weeks 4 days ago||The Smart Take from the Strong||
The Basketball Philosophy of Pete Carril.
This not a fundamental or broad theory book like many already mentioned but it has snippets of greatness.
|18 weeks 5 days ago||I agree...||
...uh...now what do I with the rest of my day.
|19 weeks 3 days ago||This is interesting...||
there's stuff going on that is not common knowledge. I think this will turn out well in the end.
I confused on fit - given the needs of the team. This will make sense though soon enough (excuse me for talking to myself.)
|19 weeks 4 days ago||Historic game...||
harbinger of spread juju.
|19 weeks 4 days ago||It's all about infinity man... and beyond... you just got to||
take that leap...
|20 weeks 2 days ago||He's going to get Jehu kicked off special teams...||
We're likely to see Pipkins line up at gunner.
|20 weeks 2 days ago||They come pretty dirty to make such a slight...||
I love Izzo when he isn't playing 'M'.
MSU props admission... I also loved Mateen Cleaves and of course Magic. MSU basketball has very little to sneer at wrt hoops for a very long time.
|20 weeks 3 days ago||Quidditch||
|21 weeks 18 hours ago||It seems there's a new plan this year...||
there's more injuries, more yellow pennies and the same smirks/boo boos. Unlike some programs where coaches weigh in on injury, trainers and medical staff are makng calls independently and perhaps, in this spring at least, more conservatively.
The key message here from Harbaugh is a no injuries = good spring game.
|21 weeks 3 days ago||Phantom||
|21 weeks 3 days ago||Mason Cole||
|21 weeks 4 days ago||Fake||
|21 weeks 5 days ago||And not able to benefit from a full cycle of S&C||
Very sad. Still the potential is there for something good to happen hopefully.
|22 weeks 16 hours ago||The best sport ever...||
We should make a men's, women's and coed varsity team as soon as possible. The sport of the future.
Very post match beer friendly.
Too bad about Easterns... but I have a feeling it was fun as all hell regardless.
I love all the football references in the video.
|22 weeks 4 days ago||Center is a very demanding position... new guys struggle||
with 3 to 4 different snapping techniques compounded with multiple QBs of different size and style, not to mention new schemes. There are going to be issues in the spring.
|22 weeks 4 days ago||Uh...||
or the defense made sure they lost. /s
A slacker post. It's great don't get me wrong. The crack is mighty. Moar Harbaugh smells like victory.
|22 weeks 5 days ago||Wisconsin is my favorite other B1G school...||
The campus is fun. The students and fans are great. I'm glad to see them succeed if it is not at Michigan's expense. Unfortunately some of the success is a problem. It sure would be nice to get a Diamond Stone or JJ Watt and let the Badger wither.
|23 weeks 1 day ago||Denard 4ever...|
|23 weeks 3 days ago||Grotuitous Steve Grote Clip for Spike...||
though Nash is the non Michigan prototype...
|23 weeks 3 days ago||Alexey Leonov and Tom Stafford: Famous US-Russian handshake||
This in the backdrop of current US Russian tensions - threatening to limit US space program access to the ISS and Pu238.
Pretty interesting post by the OP.
|23 weeks 5 days ago||Good players stay in the league||
They also get drafted in the early rounds. Richardson doesn't prove anything.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||It's not like Michigan has lost any recruiting battles with UCLA||
Cheating pays or people wouldn't do it. If only there was an organization that could...
nm... that''s crazy.
|24 weeks 1 hour ago||You should flesh this out into a diary...||
there is something to this madness known as Michigan Football.
|24 weeks 1 day ago||I don't think this presser could be summarized without||
editorial license. There is enough not said to tell many tales.
|24 weeks 3 days ago||Agree...||
the shit's getting weird...
|24 weeks 3 days ago||This has merit but a brother has a stake as well...||
we don't know enough of the details to make this judgment. It's not always best to follow the desire of the parents. If the parents didn't want him to go regardless of money they wouldn't allow it. If it's a matter of money - this brother is doing someone a huge favor. It appears in this case it's the latter - albeit from the older brother's POV.
|24 weeks 3 days ago||Here here...||
March Madness is now.
|24 weeks 6 days ago||This is all relative to the opportunity cost...||
Hackett's take and execution here is much more interesting than with Hoke. It very well could be time if executed well.
|25 weeks 1 day ago||Hungry dogs hunt best...||
coachspeak at its best...to be applied liberally in any sporting context.
|25 weeks 1 day ago||I see two guys who are possible early departures post 2016...||
For all the data - Michigan is no Kentucky. There are different paths here. Michigan has serviced a different demographic.
|25 weeks 2 days ago||Sometimes stupid small buttons are stupid||
It would be better to have the up down buttons not so close together as well. Who really cares about points in the long run anyhow?
|25 weeks 4 days ago||This is fair... I take your points... and look forward to 2015||
I appreciate all you've said and learned a ton from your commentary both here and on your site.
Borges was always about the install. We are not hearing that here from Drevno and that's refreshing. It will be interesting to contrast the 2011 season to this year. Borges came in and talked install when he had Denard. Drevno has no starter and is all about playing to the talent. I suppose that is to be expected when you consider that Borges could concentrate on the install without worrying about who would be the starter.
All that said... of course Borges did adapt his playbook for Denard and Devin. The bubble screen meme with Heiko had it's point as well. There are adaptations Borges just did not want to do and didn't. Denard's completion % fall off (and persistent INTs) and Devin's failure to launch make it hard to appreciate what Borges and Nussmeir were attempting. You have stepped into that breech...it's not a fun space to write.
Unlike Chris Brown who cherry picks the latest success and innovation your analysis has focused on the B1G. 2015 should be ripe for the picking.
|25 weeks 4 days ago||I found it ...||
It is in the Jan 2014 book Concussions in Athletics : From Brain to Behavior - Steve Broglio and Kevin Guskiewicz wrote the chapter on the Management of Collegiate Sport-Related Concussions. Here is the excerpt I was thinking about...
This goes along with what you are saying about injury tolerance but the numbers are comparable HSFB to CFB. I've emailed Steve but he's pretty busy and my interest is not professional. In fact I've talked to several concussion and CTE experts with a wide variety of responses. Steve Broglio is very well respected. I'd be curious to know if I'm misinterpreting his discussion in this paper. If you see him, mention this to him. I created an email account tss.mgoblog(at)gmail.com. Send me a note if you think about it.
That said there is a huge discrepancy in CFB on reporting. Florida State reported double digit concussions while Oregon, Ohio State and Alabama all reported zero to one. OSUs one being Kosta Karageorge - which didn't become widely known until after his disappearance and death. Accounting for numbers is difficult.
Let me think about this and check on these numbers. They look like they are taken from the early 2000s. If I come up with something that adds value I'll diarize it.
|25 weeks 4 days ago||This is in reference to a paper put out by Steven Broglio||
a professor of Kinesiology at Michigan. I will reference for you later tonight. The numbers are old but the incidence has not changed dramatically since.
Numbers here are sketchy which is the gist of this article in the first place.
|25 weeks 4 days ago||Nope||
|25 weeks 4 days ago||Space - what is up with you today?||
If you don't want to talk football - fine. I take exception to your tone and your logic and your analysis. If your answer is to not play - well that is fine.
Are we back in 5th grade? I'm not throwing shit on a wall to win people over. Is this all about MGo points for you? If so you win. I honestly don't give an ef about that.
I am at work. I do disagree with you . If you want to have a meltdown. Go for it.
If you want to talk football - I will check back - because unlike you - I enjoy talking about football with an open mind. Yours on this issue is not.
By ignoring the passing concepts to make some argument about Borges' untilization of Denard in the running game you are missing the boat. If you want to say Denard was utilized as well under Borges as under RR - you are wrong... in my opinion. Deal with it.
|25 weeks 4 days ago||Guilty and I agree with this.||
If this makes Space Coyote happy then peace be with him brother.
|25 weeks 4 days ago||I'm going to come back to this later...||
I disagree with you fundamentally here with a few exceptions. But I'm under the gun at the moment. Later tonight.
|25 weeks 4 days ago||OK||
I get it.
What I was trying to say was Borges didn't adapt.
RR didn't need to adapt offensively - in my mind. His cupboard was truly bare. His offensive record speaks for itself. I think he would have been able to adapt had Mallett stuck it out.
|25 weeks 4 days ago||turd ... look at your data||
Am I missing something?
The story is not questionable and is consistent with my post. There was not an exodus post RR.
|25 weeks 4 days ago||I didn't neg here but I think you have the story wrong on Devin||
Gardner didn't fit the system. The system wasn't sound. 27/27.
|25 weeks 4 days ago||Agree somewhat but Borges runs vs. RR success fit square to hole||
Denard was on pace to be a monster with RR. Borges stopped his progress and exposed his weakness in passing. Sure Denard beat the running QB record - but in the end from the HB position. RR passed to augment Denard's strengths. Borges ran because it was the only thing working for him. Denard created Borges' success for the most part.
Devin is another story but still doesn't fit squarely to adaptiveness under Borges.
|26 weeks 1 day ago||^||
|26 weeks 1 day ago||Swagger in Spring/Fall practice is an every year event...||
We always see it. Don't make me show pictures - it's too painful.
This take on practice is slightly different. There is an air of ass kicking competence. I will be shocked if Harbaugh ever refers to practice in a post game interview, but I feel from this post more confident that Michigan is getting its money's worth from the staff.
|26 weeks 5 days ago||Historical logic doesn't mean much at this point at least||
There's a new coach in town who didn't recruit Morris or any of the possible QB cadidates (in spring ball at least) to start in the fall. This in the backdrop of a program and sport where success is directly proportional to your starting QB.
In this context, logic based on past performance or ratings is close to meaningless.
|26 weeks 5 days ago||Legit - the ratings aren't necessarily a criteria of legitomacy||
This varies by position and drive in the HS athletes to camp. Morris had a singular drive that drove him to Texas to try out for the Elite 11. Does that make him less a 97 than Peppers is a 100? No, but his rating is a hard earned rating.
Offensive linemen are another world all together. The physical skills required of CFB linemen are nascent to say the most in high school. Ratings in this group are an order of magnitude less legit than at CB or WR.
|27 weeks 18 hours ago||Awesome work.||
This makes up for an otherwise unappreciated Sunday in the office.
|27 weeks 1 day ago||I was curious what your take would be on the CTE diary...||
The moral implication is one with which truly I grapple. It's a sociological confustifying vortex of issues. During the holidays I got into this with Wolverine1987 in a gladiatorial vein. Sal Quattro was highly skeptical both there and in the post leading up to this diary - taking my light hearted tone for subjectivism. But it was a post at the end of that thread where an analogy was made to a raisin that made me go "guh". That is what got me to write the diary.
I wrote Bob Stern when I posted the piece to get his feedback. He shares the moral concerns. He has been outspoken against the NFL player settlement. The chaotic nature of the break of this story is fascinating and the portrayal and role of science disturbing.
All that said my personal interest is large in the AFE debate. There are far more football vets like myself who have never played a down of college ball for whom the story has meaning...not to mention the kids.
|27 weeks 2 days ago||Fair enough... Spearman's Rho is not sensitive to the exact||
concerns you raise.
I don't worry too much about how I come off on this blog. These types of back and forth refine my thought, broaden my knowledge and push the topic. I appreciate your time, demeanor and the clarity.
MGoBlog allows a dialogue that holds the OP accountable (including Brian i.e. his Brandon take down and follow) and allows the reader to come to terms without a one and done self validating read through which is standard operating procedure with most media. I'm thankful for that.
|27 weeks 3 days ago||Beer in hand... suppose the staging is arbitrary...||
why is the correlation so high for age at death? The researchers use Spearman's rho for a correlation check. The correlation is greatest of all variables for age at death (.806) with p<.0001. Why so high? Given the small sample size and large confidence intervals that is a very high correlation. If the staging is arbitrary and the x axis is ordinal I would expect a marginal correlation.
CTE is known to be progressive. The linearity of the staging vs. age at death suggests that McKee got the staging right.
Besides the stats though... the criteria, microscopic and macroscopic images pass the sniff test. It's not clear to me that there isn't some quantifiable measure even in the slides.
Even if the staging is arbitrary the correlation is real. if the correlation is real the extrapolation is not unreasonable. Is it a done deal? No. Like I said in the post... these are cross sectional studies that do not prove cause ... but do find causal relationships.
In the second study a major finding is the correlation of age at death and pathological stage.
Staging for CTE based on post mortem is kind of ridiculous wrt other diseases. There is no real therapeutic or prognostic value when there is no treatment (besides possibly an untested method championed by Bernie Kosar) nor in vivo diagnostic test (besides the promising PET scan marker I mentioned earlier.) McKee stages the disease to enable later studies to build and refine the staging criteria for possible interventions.
This and other studies are bedrock templates for contact athletes who no longer play to begin to ask the questions and come to terms with the possibility that they could have CTE.
No the extrapolation does not prove CTE starts at 11.75 years of age. If you do the regression on the high and low CI that would be a margin between 27.5 years old to ... wait for it ... - 4.25 years old. Yes negative. As I said before negative values don't make sense here though. That on average this comes to 11.75 wrt the fist study is interesting however.
Regardless of the x intercept contact athletes are contracting this disease early in their lives... on this at least let us find common ground. CTE doesn't spring up at stage I without some latency. As McKee mentions there are reasons to believe that the progress of the disease is slower in some of the subjects. The early pre stage I phase post the initial trauma may be a completely different kettle of fish with respect to the growth and spread of the disease. As I also said earlier... Denard didn't win the Heisman in 2010 based on his first 5 games... extrapolation = caveat emptor.
|27 weeks 3 days ago||We agree it's not random and is ordered - let's drink beer||
Unfortunately I can't drink beer now, but I will around 9PM tonight pacific...in case you are checking this thread.
|27 weeks 3 days ago||Or just be comfortable...||
Suh's Zubaz are specifically designed to make him look skinny... or is that fat.
Uh...on second thought... no amount of vertical lines are going to make Suh look fat just more intimidating.
|27 weeks 3 days ago||S&C is year round||
There is no limit on access for conditioning or stretching for that matter.
|27 weeks 4 days ago||If you want to question McKee's staging - go nuts||
The criteria for staging is explicit and verified by two other pathologists in the study. But don't depict the criteria as random or arbitrary. It is neither one.
|27 weeks 4 days ago||Try using the disney regression below -15.9*Donald = my point||
The regression is to the ordinal scale. If there were 8 stages the slope would be ~8.
You can't change the data/relationship between the variables. I could graph stages 1, 1.5, 2 and 2.5 but like I said before the mean ages would change - not to mention I don't have that data.
I can extrapolate to stage 0 or stage 5 or interpolate to 1.5 or 3.96748. I can't change the nature of what a stage is (as determined by a team of pathologists) or the mean age of the subjects by stage.
Humans are pattern recognition machines. Correlating ordinal independent variables to reality is discriminant analysis. That is what staging is in this biomedical context.
|27 weeks 4 days ago||Candy and nuts||
|27 weeks 4 days ago||It's not about grouping the data...||
it's about displaying the data we have which is coming from the microscope and in the case of the later stages the naked eye. Marrying the data to the case histories shows that CTE is a progressive disease.
Stage I = Foci of p-tau tangles
Stage II = Multiple discrete foci of p-tau tangles
Stage III=Widespread tangles throughout the brain
Stage IV=Severe p-tau abnormailities throughout the brain (but oddly not so much the visual cortex...that is weird??)
And your suggesting creating a stage V composed of the sickest group of stage IV subjects. Hmm. OK. That would be your 95 y.o. on average with very little working brain. You start to lose people here to CTE and natural causes.
Whatever stages you map out the relationship between the progression of CTE and age of each subject wrt to their pathological stage is not going to be any different regardless of how many stages you stipulate.
|27 weeks 4 days ago||And now by disney character in order of popularity|
|27 weeks 4 days ago||Here you go..|
|27 weeks 4 days ago||I'll do this tonight when I get home... a rose is a rose however||
it won't change the scale which is ordinal as determined from the mean ages. The stages are noted in roman numerals which is used often and in this case to designate ordinality. The naming convention of the stages has nothing to do with scale.
Ideally we would have an infinite number of stages with a continuous response in age of subject. Staging in medicine wrt disease has an interesting history. Staging in this paper is very precise and was verified by two other pathologists in the study. If another stage made sense I'm sure they would do it. Note stage IV subjects don't do to well so a stage V is unlikely. On the other side however, given the progressive model a stage 0 isn't unreasonable.
It wil not be until 10PM pacific at the earliest - FYI
|27 weeks 4 days ago||But the mean values would change ...||
with the new criteria for the new staging regime. 1.5 would probably be very near an interpolation of 1 and 2...
The mean age data comes from the distribution of the stage sample of subjects ...
|27 weeks 4 days ago||Teams come and go but the Washtenaw Jr Wolverines still exist...||
I played QB on the Jr Wolverines in the 70s opposite one Jr. Packer team that in my 12th year did not even make the championship which we won. Glory days.
|27 weeks 4 days ago||What is the difference between naming a stage 1.5 and III?||
Changing scale doesn't change the relationship between variables. The regression formula will be different but the intercept will approximate the same result.
|27 weeks 5 days ago||Let's break it up into 8 stages...||
0.5, 1, 1.5, 2,2.5, 3, 3.5 and 4. This adds a stage lower than 1 but we could do it however we like. The important thing is to correctly classify each subject to the pathological criteria which in this case would be a transitional stage between the existing non fractional stages. That gives the quantitative matching that you mentioned.
If we assume that the regression remains linear then the 0.5 group comes in ~8 years younger than the stage 1 group on average. Data points would likely fall randomly between the higher and lower stages giving roughly the same line. After all the data is the same whether we cut it 4 ways or into an infinite and continuous numerical score of CTE-ness. Granted there will be more noise with more stages but it will be approximate to the four point line. I don't see how an 8 stage cut of the same data is going to nearly double the slope.
If I had the data itself I could do something else with it. But I only have the mean and confidence interval for the stages defined.
In the mean time, pun intended, you can extrapolate a line from this...
to get a stage zero or extrapolate a heisman from Denard's first 5 games of 2010 for that matter. Extrapolation does not always work. As I have said before the confidence intervals are too wide to put much credibility into this GRC... but it's interesting and instructive.
The x intercept of any of these hypothetical myriad stages and linear models would always be non negative, unless we induce CTE in the womb. More data will tell the story.
Plotting the categorical data vs. time of death is problematic for CTE. Though it's likely Joseph Chernach's death is somewhat CTE related - CTE does not kill in general. Instead it denigrates quality of life for the most part. It is unlikely a pathologist would look for CTE in a teenager to diagnose a 0.5 stage brain. There are half the number of stage I brains compared to the other stages with or without any fractional breakdown. Stage IV subjects are older and bounded by natural death as well as failure to thrive. Waiting for a donor to die is a non random sampling strategy.
UCLA has a patent on a PET scan marker for Tau protien that has already diagnosed Tony Dorsett and other NFL vets with CTE. These are later stages but perhaps they will be able to perform these tests reliably on non symptomatic players and bring a real focus on the extent of CTE - supposedly affecting from 3.5% to as much as 30% of all current NFL players depending on whose projections you use.
|27 weeks 5 days ago||You got me on this one.||
I hadn't read that tweet or some of the other links. Having seen the hit I find it hard to believe he stayed in the game, but he certainly went through the protocol. It would have been better to have pulled him immediately instead of after the series. I'm unclear if there is a procedure to pull someone from a game or if they have to wait for a break in the action.
|27 weeks 5 days ago||Check out page 4||
of the study. I can paste data but not discussion due to copyright (I'm pretty sure that is right - better to be safe than sorry.) Stamm suggests several models for this. Personally I have no idea but I'm reading about this myself at the moment trying to understand.
I'm also very interested in the progression of the disease. I'm not sure how that works either. Any clues on that from readers would be appreciated.
|27 weeks 5 days ago||The stages are ordinal wrt mean age of subject - quantitatively||
That is what allows this admittedly imprecise but accurate extrapolation. It's a gross reality check that the underlying hypothesis in the first study is in the initial study of the spectrum of CTE demographic.
Yes negative intercept is possible if the relation is not linear. But it isn't ... which is interesting if not significant.
|27 weeks 5 days ago||Like I said... it's a cross sectional study.||
Does it prove cause. No. Does it find cause. Yes.
If cross sectional study is "poor" by definition then I can't argue that point. There is a good reason this study was done as it was given the resources and money we have now.
Note Stamm used established neuropsychological tests that can be compared to larger population norms. All subjects were below average in this respect.
Unfortunately the issue of mTBI is not restricted to football. If it were, we might never get a "rich" study done. The military has great need to actually determine the effect of long term mTBI. That will certainly provide answers in the long run. As a parent, I can't wait for that.
I also work in a technical field where design of experiment is paramount. Public health doesn't operate in that zone. Case controled studies are not initailly or ever possible for ethical, monetary, social or practical reasons.
What is your judgment sj? When kids can play team sports that don't involve contact like that dictated in tackle football (like Ultimate or Flag Football) does your son don the helmet or not? Troy Aikman and Terry Bradshaw say no. They don't need studies period. What do you say?
|27 weeks 6 days ago||Extrapolation - the staging is based on pathology not symptoms||
The case histories and symptoms were gathered blindly and independently from the pathology reports as well. The age at time of death is the only case history data drawn here to perform the extrapolation. Each subject is a snapshot of the stage of CTE at time of death.
Extrapolation can work with categorical measurement with or without variance over time as long as there is an ordinal relationship - in this case born out in the data and captured in the excel table. The staging linearity is real and even responds to the variance.
Is it QED. No it is not. Is it a model that makes sense. Yes it is.
Regardless of model or sense - the uncertainty is huge. All caveats apply.
|27 weeks 6 days ago||It may seem hopeless but I like the Browns||
Defense is the cornerstone here.
|28 weeks 3 days ago||Harbaugh remembers...||
When was the last time we had a S&C coach run with the team? I'm sure they do it but seeing Gittleson doing it is fun for some nostalgic reason.
|28 weeks 3 days ago||Attitude > Altitude||
If Michigan wins this then it's going to be a media circus of expectation and Harbaugh swag.
I can't wait for spring... time is going so slowly. I'm going to bed right now so I can wake up and get tomorrow over with as soon as possible.
|28 weeks 3 days ago||Beer without Whiskey is fine with me...||
If that makes a Boiler then I'm OK with that. I often call Purdue "The Drum". Honestly I don't see getting worked up about an opponent in any respect.
|28 weeks 3 days ago||I like Mario to bring some pass rush...||
We've been missing that for some time. He gets back in form this year and starts to show the step he had as a frosh.
|28 weeks 4 days ago||But we don't know enough to make this call...||
Harbaugh can address this in a presser - not that I think he will. Appearance shouldn't interfere with the correct call if it was made. If she is qualified I don't care who her son is. The position is not high profile enough that we will ever know probably. In an organization like this there is quite a bit of wash for this type of hire. If something unethical occurs so that Harbaugh is impugned that changes things. That is not the case for the time being.
I'm tired of infighting in the Fort. Harbaugh is innocent until proven guilty in my mind and gets a pass until something is intercepted. A position like this doesn't need more than 20 mins of the coach's time to complete. You don't need to open the job to the public and vet it. Get it done... next.
|29 weeks 2 days ago||May the best man win.||
I have no favorites other than the best. I'm also very excited to see the Spring game for some reason.
|29 weeks 3 days ago||Given the timeline Weber was not mislead.||
Karan is a gift from the AIRBHGs.
|29 weeks 3 days ago||He's effectively a 2012/2013 recruit with his eligibility.||
give or take a RS.
|29 weeks 3 days ago||Boliva isn't such a bad place...||
certainly all CAPS is not justified. Mods do what mods do for the common good. Whatever punishment is meted it's not THAT bad. A month without being able to create threads is nothing and proportionate.
|29 weeks 4 days ago||Be that as it may - this post is going to percuss in Iowa||
The stakes are large for these young men. I'm glad this blog gives the opportunity for a different take on the assumed bag man backdrop of college recruitment. Each recruit is housed in a particular circumstance. Sounds like this definitely was not a Laquon Treadwell experience.
I'm glad Harbaugh had the ears open to Karan and surprised there wasn't earlier engagement from Hoke. Michigan had their own circumstance that limited the offers in Hoke's final months at Michigan. 2016 should right that ship. Michigan needs to work its network to the limit to offer opportunity where it is earned both in the classroom and on the field.
Iowa's concerns hark to MSU bitterness. The truth of the matter is they have benefited from Michigan's downturn far more than they have suffered in recent recruitments.
|29 weeks 4 days ago||Great story and fascinating read...||
This reminds me of a story related on this blog about Norfleet. You can't begin to know the depth of a student's experience and background from game day programs and 30 second Karsch take downs. Some kids are trust fund material, others are Denard like first in family college grads. Higdon has his own story that will be made all the more interesting to me by this post. Even though the detail is intimate, the core of Karan is shaded more with the weight of his circumstance than insight into to his future at Michigan. I'm excited to see what he makes of his time in Ann Arbor.
Life is mired in happenstance. Great post.
|29 weeks 6 days ago||Take away his two highest runs and you get a 3.3 yard average...||
still good but 1.5 yards off his season average. Those long runs were for 15 and 14 yards and weren't field/game changing. He had a sub Lynch outing but a solid performance. The story of the Seahawks scoring was in the big plays through Wilson. That is not to say Lynch wasn't a part of that since NE dedicated Hightower and others to anti-Lynch duties.
There aren't too many other backs I would trade for Lynch. I'm just talking about the game, and honestly the feel - as I admit - I didn't look up the stat line before saying NE contained Lynch.
|30 weeks 1 hour ago||It was a great game - end of story||
Seattle benefited by contrarian tactics as much as they suffered from them. NE's D focused on Lynch and pretty much took him out of the game. Hindsight Harry will always kvetch. This game will go down in my mind very much like Dyson getting tackled at the one in SB XXXIV.
Sometimes great defensive plays win it. Sometimes unknown talents make the difference. Brady and Wilson played great and made gaffes. Carroll is as much to be credited as to be blamed (the score at the end of the 1st half is to his credit and gave Seattle the mo in the game.) Great great game. Decided by caprice as much as strategem. Why throw darts when faced with utter greatness.
|30 weeks 3 days ago||No||
Youth football is a confounding factor in cognitive impairment that is all. More study is required.
|30 weeks 3 days ago||The claims of the study are within the bounds of the data||
Skepticism is always wise. There are socioeconomic forces at work here that have suppressed the scientific inquiry. Suppressing valid science is always unwise. The data here says look at youth football. There is cause for that.
|30 weeks 4 days ago||This is a data point... that directly contradicts your POV||
Don't mess with Data.
In the journal of the American Academy of Neurology it is reported that NFL players who played youth football scored 20 percent worse on cognitive tests than an already depressed population of NFL players who did not play youth fooball. Yet you think CTE is an NFL problem only? Hmm... I'm not sure. Definitely it is an NFL problem.
I'm also not sure there is an increase in CTE at all but rather greater reportage and diagnosis (which can only be definitive through elective posthumous postmortem.)
The best response to this is caution in allowing youths to play the game along with more study. The Heads Up program put on by the NFL on the other hand has no data to support it's effectiveness. It's premised on the idea that head to head collisions can be coached out of the game. That I don't see.
If Michigan gave up football due to CTE risks I would be sad but I would understand. Data would kick my ass for saying that but that is what I think at this point. Data will eventually tell the story.
|30 weeks 4 days ago||I'm going to take your post literally and agree that it is dumb||
Youth football is not relatively a tough hard hitting contact sport compared to HS, college or professional football. The brain of a <=12 yo is in a compromised developmental state that is perhaps more susceptible to the lower range of impact in youth football. Regardless playing Pop Warner (or what ever youth league) has consequences.
Some kids use football as a way to avoid other issues and garner opportunity. It's not an irrational decision by parents to let their kids play. When the NFL puts money into convincing parents it is OK to play with a "Heads Up" I don't think they are really giving the parents any literal warning of the dangers. Big money is coming after parents to assuage their fears, obscure the truth and belay their judgment.
If you don't want your kids to get hurt, do what is best for them. As a parent I'm going to honestly say I have no idea what that is most of the time.
|30 weeks 4 days ago||Some will be surprised...many more will be in denial||
Certainly no objective person is surprised.
|30 weeks 5 days ago||Thomas withered under Hoke...||
with or without spell check.
|30 weeks 5 days ago||Hockey is the best sport on the planet||
It looks like this team is going to make a run. Some of my best sport memories happened inside Yost Ice Arena. Dare I engender hope? The plight of a partisan.
|31 weeks 1 hour ago||This hurts my feelings...||
Seriously, if a thread is deleted it should come with consequences. The OP should be docked half the distance to the goal line in vaunted MGo points (I would retroactively suffer on this front but have no issues with it.) This thread was beyond silly.
WD might need some professional or meaningful intervention at some point. It's borderline unhealthy and this community for the most part supports his delusional state. Obviously he has never played football (not that there is anything wrong with that)...just saying.
|31 weeks 9 hours ago||Clearly WD doesn't care what others think...||
Dumb post Corky. I'm really really sorry to say that. Please accept my sincerest apologies.
This thread on the other hand is becoming quite entertaining.
|31 weeks 10 hours ago||A thread about bloggers feelings about each other...||
I must neg this...
|31 weeks 2 days ago||As much as I love Lytle and Michigan I can't say it was worth it||
Perhaps the book will give me more perspective. What a sacrifice for the love of football. I get that but the sense of loss is strong on Kelly's site, these excerpts and, I assume, the book.
No game is worth giving up 30+ years with your family. Reading the website greatly mellowed my love for the game from fanatical to desperate. I hope we can play without such losses. It's very hard to read.
|31 weeks 3 days ago||Wal-Mart Wolverine cuts deeper than Little Brother||
Football doesn't mean much in the real world. Neither does sport. Yet we watch and cheer. We'll talk about a team with a nostic "we" that can be patronizing and vilifying but is bred of a collective identity. Since sport defines winning and losing it provides a tidy contrast for anyone to draw a sense of identity.
If someone calls some Wolverine fans Walmart Wolverines I wouldn't think any more of it than Michigan players calling fans muggles or collegians gathering for an alumni celebration. Part of it is identity and part shared experience and nothing more. Collegiality can be defined on any boundary.
Personally I'm a stoic. Ultimately life is suffering with a brief interlude of knowledge and joy. If you are a Michigan fan - I'm sure you can appreciate the suffering at least. Let's drink to the gridiron knowledge and joy to come whatever your background. In the end it doesn't mean as much as we let on.
|31 weeks 3 days ago||Pick your degree...Pick a CC... Find a path - 2 links||
LS&A General studies graduation checklist
Equivalency - pick your 2 yr. school (with a football program) and build a path
It's work...especially when you consider that not all classes are offered when you need them.
|31 weeks 3 days ago||This isn't a False Alarm ...||
it's just False.
|32 weeks 3 days ago||This analysis was done in 2011 showing B1G development of NFL||
talent. Despite wins and losses - the B1G developed talent - at least in this studied period.
Note this kind of thinking is, in part, why Ferentz is loved by Iowa fans.
|32 weeks 4 days ago||The turn around for UCLA is heartening...||
The systematic winning at Navy and Air Force is also a testament to scheme, coaching and teamwork. The Air Force style of play and JV like teams makes for wins. Spring ball will be very interesting.
This was a very interesting read about how Air Force breeds success - basically by over signing in a way only a service academy can.
|32 weeks 4 days ago||Agreed ... "slam" was overkill and "stupid" uncalled for...||
Bellomy doesn't deserve to be slighted that is all.
|32 weeks 4 days ago||This^^ All respect to OSU but||
TCU could have beaten them. We will never know.
The logistics of an 8 team playoff are not difficult. Extend the season one game and all the bowls still have the pick of the losers.
|32 weeks 4 days ago||You are being called stupid for not spelling his name correctly.||
Suck it up sadeto.
If you are using the Nebraska game (which is the bulk of the stats and playing time Bellomy has seen) you are being called "stupid" for slamming a kid who came into a game plan premised on the best running QB in college football history.
Once he came in Nebraska no longer had rushing lanes to protect. They came full bore for Russ. That is not something he was seeing in practice. Denard didn't need hot routes to protect against sacks because his legs kept DLs honest. Bellomy came into a plan denuded of outlet routes. He was setup for failure.
Competition is good. Bellomy will probably not get to the field again. He deserves respect however for what he's done and doing for the team. Anything else is stupid IMO.
|32 weeks 4 days ago||TCU should have been in ... not disrespect to OSU||
the sooner we get to 8 teams the better. Add one week post the conference championship games in the high seed home stadium and all the teams get in who should.
If OSU demonstrated they were worthy then TCU did as well.
|32 weeks 4 days ago||Bellomy not Bellamy||
Neg for stupidity not necessarily spelling. Bellomy is a member of the team...WTF. Learn the fan speak... ie "Competition is good!" Slamming kids who are working with the team is neg worthy. Sincerely, Stupid Internet Tough Guy.
|32 weeks 4 days ago||I was going to make a 96 69 joke||
but this thread is already out to pasture.
I do appreciate the content though.
|33 weeks 1 day ago||Baylor T-shirts||
|33 weeks 1 day ago||While is plain text editor...||
<blockquote> Stuff that you want blockquoted </blockquote>
|33 weeks 2 days ago||Present||
|33 weeks 2 days ago||Reposting this for any who have not read it...||
Lytle was as tough as they come...lots of anecdotes here...
If you gotta go, Go Blue.
|33 weeks 3 days ago||Agree... I read them to keep myself current and don't regret it||
by the second book I too was taken. GoT was my 2014 summer escape - it kind of set me up for the Blue wedding that was the ND game. I did not see that coming. Then the blood really started to hit the field. Reading them all is not a small commitment in time. Having done it - reading them twice is a real luxury. Perhaps required reading for the modern world (have I lost perspective?... maybe.)
|33 weeks 3 days ago||I read a few negative reviews and shied away...||
I'll add it to my waitlist at the library on your recommendation.
Seth - your latest peice was a great. Thanks for the content.
|33 weeks 3 days ago||Name of the Wind was a good read...||
|33 weeks 3 days ago||Singletary is getting mentioned quite a bit here...||
is he staying on or not? Sounds like he is.
|33 weeks 3 days ago||College athletes are allowed to train as much as they want...||
they just can't be coached while doing it outside of the proverbial stretching hour, not to mention concomitant school playing. College athletes sacrifice well beyond the NCAA limits on coaching. In fact many of Michigan's athletes study the human body and how to train it - in their school playing time. (Admittedly that is a small part of what they study.)
It's how you train that matters - most people think - not how much. But somehow no one really knows the way to do that definitively - despite all the kinesiology majors out there.
|33 weeks 5 days ago||Oregon rules||
Go Ducks. It's crazy the amount of Oregon swag on the streets here in Portland. Plus the guy with the fireworks after the FSU game laid out some bucks. Hopefully they will lay out some more Bucks soon.
|33 weeks 6 days ago||In conclusion||
potato salad muthafawkers!
|33 weeks 6 days ago||William Saffire would disagree...I don't either...||
"- gate" has meaning not because fo the etymology but rather because of the usage.
|34 weeks 1 day ago||Pipkins BWC comparison is weak...||
Both had very different paths with injury to Pipkins and position change for BWC. Pipkins has had the same role throughout. Ultimately he is likely to leave with fans wishing he had another year like BWC however (IMO).
I like these two posts O and D, but I think the player evals are too harsh for athletes who haven't finished their college careers. Some players only get one season in the sun. That season can be worth all the the work.
New eyes on the players will allow the cream to rise to the top. I'm wondering if we are going to see leadership in the winter workouts like we have had recently. I'm curious to see if the team runs together (like Seniors in past classses have organized) and how often the QBs work on routes with the WRs/TEs. I have no inside info - most of that comes with little to no reporting. The S/C hire will take what he gets from the players at this point as the players are back.
|34 weeks 4 days ago||Same...||
|34 weeks 4 days ago||Same...||
|34 weeks 6 days ago||We may have to agree to disagree...||
I'm not taking an absolutist position you are (!??) by putting your respect for free will before concern for the athletes and the good of the game. Certainly in your most recent posts you are saying that you would change the game to make it safer but not so in your initial post. Here is the evidence that you don't support changes to the game... your own words...
If that is subtly misstating your argument then thanks for wasting my time by posting your argument to begin with. It is likely I wouldn't have even commented had you qualified that statement with a willingness to change the game. There is no willingness in those absolutist words.
Why is it curious to you that I would not support parents either allowing or preventing their kids from playing football? I don't. I personally think there is enough anecdotal and scientific evidence to question any parent who allows their kids to play football. That, 87, is a judgment call and not an absolutist position. That is my point in responding to your post to begin with.
Am I asking my representative in congress to legislate that kids not play the game... no I am not. Not because I respect their rights but rather because it's just not feasible. The evidence is not clear enough for people to understand and change their behavior. Contrary to what you have read or believe, hard hits that cause damage do not likely lead to CTE rather repetitive hits do following soon after hard hits (and what constitutes "hard" is very much in doubt) which pretty much summarizes the game of football. Sooner or later the evidence will, I think, bear this out.
There is no test for CTE other that autopsy. The NFL has obstructed the post mortem studies of scientists who sought to bring data to bear on the incidence of CTE in professional football players. With the lack of data comes interpretation and bias. Football is a cultural, economic and social bulwark of our time that resists change for many reasons (not unlike the carbon producing energy and transportation sectors.) It's likely we will never have consensus on CTE and sport - just like we will never have consensus on global warming. Instead individuals will take action in their personal lives and some public policy will be instituted where feasible.
Changing the game of football which has been changing every year since its inception anyway - is a feasible and active pursuit. Moving the kickoff, the forward pass, helmets and pads are all examples of this. The fact that players have choice to participate or not does not obviate this change.
When professional players say they wouldn't let their kids play the game. We need to listen.
Governments protect our freedom as well. It's a fundamental part of our own government. When people start waving freedom flags though... that is where freedom often takes a hit.
Laissez-faire policy doesn't support freedom. It advocates letting things take their own course. That is not the same as freedom. Sierra Leone is a case of laissez-faire gone awry.
Where did you get gay marriage out of all this? Unprotected sex applies to all sexual proclivities.
|34 weeks 6 days ago||What are you basing this on?||
I'd like to dismiss this as dumb but did I miss something? Bosch's biggest concern is Bosch. Michigan has been very good to him. Prior to picking up the recruiting torch JH is going to assess what he has in the fold. Turning away Bosch would be an act of incredible stupidity and would give me concern that JH is an idiot ...which wrt football... JH is not.
This isn't RR coming in and having Alex Mitchell and Jeremy Ciulla opt out - not to mention Mallet and Clemons. JH's biggest priority right now is keeping the players he has. Desmond Morgan will be getting a call along with each and every player on last year's roster. I doubt he waits to hire position coaches before talking to the players.
|34 weeks 6 days ago||Something along the lines of ... come play for me...||
or maybe ... come coach for me.
Everyone else is already on board. In fact everyone else is so desperate for success that they will not hear anything but brilliance in whatever he says. There is no critical take on this until the fall.
|35 weeks 1 day ago||And the band played on, laissez-faire worked well in the 80s /s||
Laissez-faire is doing wonders for Sierra Leoneans as we blog... joy to your world. If I thought a law requiring condoms would help reduce the dangers of risky behavior I'd be all for it. It couldn't be any worse than Pope Paul VI's encyclical not to use them. Even the church backed off that position in the face of Aids - in the small subset of souls called male prostitutes at least. But you would not enter into that fray, would you, in deference to someone else's right to choose their path.
I hope you realize that by condoning parents who prevent their sons from playing football you also approve of those who allow it. Yeah - that is what you are thinking - unfortunately. Maybe that is why you are wavering in your position that football causes CTE as well. Where previously you said...
Now you are saying that you aren't so sure football causes brain trauma. Hmm... that's convienent in all laissez-faireness to your real argument.
Let's go back to the article the OP pointed toward to begin with. Let's allow Terry Bradshaw to speak out whether he thinks football causes brain trauma...
Seems to me he's got a pretty good take on this.
If you love football as much as I do (and I'm begining to wonder if you do love it as much as your professed laissez-faire attitude) then maybe you will grow a pair and support changes to the game and discourage the talent drain. Something tells me you are happy to let the best athletes wander and the sport demean itself before that happens.
I choose football. That is the difference between you and me. The time for flag waving is over. Unless of course it's a maize and blue flag... then by all means Go Blue!
|35 weeks 2 days ago||Simplification doesn't make it simple...||
Choice does not validate unnecessary suffering. The NFL suppressed concussion research for over a decade. Where is the choice there? Who presumed to know best for whom then? We may both agree that there is a place for safety in the game but I don't think we both agree on where that place is.
Private and state sponsored "games" existed in and around Rome for nearly a millennium. I'm not going to pretend the metaphor is exact but, yes, I would say it is nuanced. Specifically I alluded to the line from the movie Gladiator where Russell Crowe remarks to the crowd and sponsor in disgust after he is unappreciated for the death he has wrought. The games in Rome far outlived their religious origin flamed by the political advantage and popularity the carnage fostered for their sponsors. Eight hundred plus years later It took a different religious uprising (and economic collapse) to squelch it and call murder for what it was.
The story that the OP is pointing out is true. But the game of football is in danger of becoming less than it was not from people "on my side of the argument" rather from people on yours. Socioeconomic status is already leveraged on football. It's going to become even more so before we die as the Terry Bradshaws and Troy Aikmans of yesterday’s glory spread the word to talented youth that there is more to life than CTE has to offer. The current science is not clear at all as to the risk involved in football (or lacrosse or soccer or many other sports for that matter.)
No athletes are signing waivers in Pop Warner wrt to possible CTE. Instead coaches with little to no training are coaching the kids not to lead with the head with little consequence to the occasional bell ringer or perhaps even more damaging less noticeable yet constant trauma that is endemic to the game. Adults stand aside and say - hey the kid wants to play - who's to stop him. On the college level, athletes like Denard are given an education that he would not reasonably be able to attain any other way, first in his family to graduate from college. Where is the choice there? On the pro level, we are paying guys more and more to do more and more damage. They have a choice. I guess that justifies it. If the NFL had gotten out in front on CTE - I'd almost buy that.
Read the OP. Kids with parents who know (what little there is to know) or families who don't need football money are choosing not to play. Meanwhile fans are lining up for more and more violent sports - football included - with the OK to watch validated by the athletes presumed choice. There is more than choice in this equation. Football as we know it is going to suffer in the long run. As I said before - there is only so much talent out there. It won't be the same.
87 - wear you seat belt. I don't want to have to pay for your medical bills when some drunk runs you off the road. Wait, you say, you can afford your own bills. Maybe someone else, maybe most everyone else can't. That is why we take choice away when it comes to public health. In the long run it works out best for everyone. Maybe in this case it will work out best for the sport we both love - football.
|35 weeks 2 days ago||Sounds like somebody got busted by their parents...||
or maybe the parents got caught not listening to their kid.
|35 weeks 3 days ago||I'll play...I think it will be Speight...||
that is a wild guess. Malzone will RS. Honestly it's wide open.
|35 weeks 3 days ago||Rosen is a solid verbal to UCLA ... this from the UA jersey tour||
Doesn't sound like he is too interested in looking around... but that was two months ago.
|35 weeks 4 days ago||I loved this offense... though Michigan stuffed it fairly well..|
|35 weeks 4 days ago||Are you not entertained? Did gladiators decide their fates?||
People don't choose their lives and opportunities to the extent public health decisions should be premised on it. Football is not about crippling dotage. Just because people have presumed choice in their lives doesn't mean we shouldn't have seat belt laws or public health warnings.
The talent drain is real. There are only so many arms out there capable of hitting a 20 yard out (with guys who are now 33+% as big as they were in the sixties) bearing down on them. Privleged kids are playing supposedly safer sports - because they're parents have choice.
People aren't as free as you think - especially kids confined to a more and more fixed socioeconomic status. Choice doesn't justify avoidable injury not being avoided. We have a history of work place safety that was established from blood and tears of people who didn't have immediate choice to do whatever they wanted.
People wave the freedom flag to take away others opportunities. Does that make sense? You are saying if athletes have choice we can sign off on responsibility for their consequences. I'm saying not so much. Can we coexist? Seems unlikely without a little wavering.
|35 weeks 4 days ago||Our tax dollar at work... does this make you feel better?||
Effect of altitude on football performance.
Magnitude aside I don't think this makes for much advantage for trained athletes. I few days of acclimatizing and extra aerobic work. The real challenge is a team that kicked Michigan around not too long ago. Not to mention Michigan teams are road warriors (/s).
And ... in summation... Peppers.
|35 weeks 6 days ago||At this point he can say this...||
Miles is on the list at some point. This is a micro positive searchbit.
|35 weeks 6 days ago||F5ing||
|35 weeks 6 days ago||Less people die playing football with helmets...||
that is why we have helmets.
Scrum <> Flying Wedge
|36 weeks 14 min ago||It is pretty dificult to view non American athletes given the ..||
coverage we have thrust down our throats. If that implies less interest then I would take issue.
On the flip side I find myself watching less Michigan football recently regardless of expanded coverage.
I'm not sure which side sounds better to me here.
|36 weeks 29 min ago||Yeah ... because we are all equal and free...||
and kids can make these decisions for themselves and god bless America and all. But if you lived in a country where all kids were measured by Football prowess would it still be the next CTE inflicted brain's fault?
I love skiing more than most, but I don't do flips. Stunts like White's kill people every year who try and emulate them. Every death has a waiver in small type on their lift ticket. There are no such waivers in a football helmet. Where is Steve Colbert to waiver his American flag when you need it.
|36 weeks 1 hour ago||Golf is pretty safe||
and purportedly a sport...I don't agree but purporters are smarter than I am.
|36 weeks 20 hours ago||This should be moved to Diaries...||
thanks for pulling this data and the charts.
|36 weeks 20 hours ago||Can you provide one example of a football athlete who went JuCo||
to polish his athletic talents under superior coaching and facilities despite being eligible for a 4 year school? I will save you the post... there are none. Baseball, hockey, soccer are all different animals. Football JuCo players are kids who have classroom issues in general. That is quite fact.
If a kid has resources and wants to work on his grades and make it into a four year school - prep is the another route. It's a hard road either way.
Kansas has an historical job market and education mission that allows for 2 year degrees and transfers. They don't have the directional schools of other states. That said... community colleges, for profit institutions and online programs are offering economic alternatives to fully qualified students to get their degree. However they aren't making SEC/P12/B12/B1G/ACC starters out of kids without HS video to prove themselves athletically.
If you can name one (like Aaron Rodgers) - he is the exception that proves the rule.
Michigan can use JuCos - but they need to show progression toward existing degrees. It's not an easy thing to do while burning eligibility at a JuCo playing academic catch up. To portray JuCo football players as doing anything else than catch up - undersells the work they need to accomplish to make it at Michigan or any four year school.
|36 weeks 3 days ago||There was stuff there about @ThoseWhoStay7||
which was worth saving. Just saying.
|36 weeks 3 days ago||The lyrics make sense to me now... how could I have missed this||
He's talking about putting people in motion...spreading the defense. Brian has gone back to his roots to replenish his inner spreadness in some sort of love in in SF. There can be no other take on this. Thanks chatster.
|36 weeks 3 days ago||Chatsports...|
|36 weeks 3 days ago||That bottle keeps refilling itself...it's magic||
oh wait ... Chatsports.
|36 weeks 3 days ago||That may be tonight's conundrum...||
but tomorrow it will come clean. Brian has a history of calling out douchebags who approach recruits. He called out students for approaching Zettel in a concession line (a recruitment that could have been compromised by crap like this - it certainly didn't help.)
Prediction - Brian tones down support for this source tomorrow in the searchbits.
|36 weeks 3 days ago||If Michigan is willing to put 8 million a year on the table...||
there is more than one basket.
|36 weeks 3 days ago||That will change tomorrow...||
Brian will not stand with a non public account that tweets recruits. His livelihood is at stake. Just my opinion - but this guy is neither credible nor worth retweets.
|36 weeks 3 days ago||If only there was a system that could decide where bullets come||
to rest. Of course...we would call that system logical because... well...logic.
|36 weeks 3 days ago||Hmm... perhaps because this report is BS||
...but wait it's coming from such a reliable source.
|36 weeks 5 days ago||Suck it up||
Admit you don't care about spelling or that you regret your error. Spelling matters here and in most of the literate word. Quit the incredulous act.
|37 weeks 15 hours ago||This is unfortunately a political take...||
believe it or not. Verboten.
A tragedy in any context.
|37 weeks 1 day ago||College coaches as Pokemon||
This spelling smashup has the makings a virtuosic diary.
|37 weeks 3 days ago||University of Denver||
= DU. This is pretty common at many schools.
|38 weeks 7 hours ago||No they don't have the same credentials as recruits we pull in..||
They are incoming Juniors. If they are careful and lucky they can transfer the classes they took, but in general they aren't. JUCOs go to Junior College because they can't go to a four year school. They have to transfer in with the same progression toward a Michigan degree that our recruits have shown - as a third year Michigan undergrad. That is not easy.
The plurality of Michigan football players are kinesiology or general studies majors. I'm not saying these degrees are hard but JUCO courses don't transfer necessarily. For kinesiology - you would be hard pressed to cover equivalent classes at Grand Rapids CC. If one or two classes don't transfer that puts the incoming student in a pretty big hole. Most of the high end talent coming out of JUCOs are kids who take a least some of the classes that don't transfer.
Equivalencies are posted on the UM admissions site. Check it out. Try and find equivalient kinesiology classes. You may find them but are they offered every term? There is a reason JUCOs don't work at Michigan. That said - if a coaching staff wanted to start the program - they could. Alabama will stick a player or two away in a JUCO with an understanding that they can join the team in a year or two. Their classes are coordinated with admissions and it's another way they make it work. Nebraska, Kansas and Kansas State are just some of the schools that can work well for JUCOs - not just for football but for all the students in their region. Michigan transfers are mostly kids who are highly motivated and necessarily take the classes they know will transfer.
There is more to say here but your premise that they probably have the same credentials as our Junior student athletes is wrong.
|38 weeks 1 day ago||I like AF||
Calhoun has my approval over Schiano.
|38 weeks 3 days ago||Crazy train!...Why is it so hard to be a Michigan fan?||
It didn't used to be this hard. We used to experience our failures at the hands of worthy opponents and blind referees. For too long we have wallowed in our own gridiron internecine poison.
Please make it stop. Someone who can manage a game clock, inspire a teenager to become a student athlete and be good at football. It's a crazy train.
|38 weeks 3 days ago||And RR turned down Alabama||
before coming to Michigan.
|38 weeks 4 days ago||Where can I get one of those chairs...||
time to buy some furniture.