I did not make this headline up
|1 hour 3 min ago||Why are you going?||
Can't your wife go without you? Get your priorities straight, man.
|19 hours 47 min ago||Great decision||
The WFA was a good thing. But too many "good things" take time away from the focus needed for a great team. It takes a leader like Harbaugh to say "no" to a number of good things. The goal is to be great. And that means sacrifices have to be made.
Let's face it, neither RR nor Hoke were doing lots of bad things. They weren't unethical in what they did. But they didn't have the time and the energy to give to the WFA, etc. Very specifically, if I had to choose between satellite camps and WFA, there'd be no decision other than the one made by Coach Harbaugh.
|23 hours 56 min ago||What about over Beilein's tenure?||
It would be helpful to see a chart that shows how Michigan compares over Beilein's tenure.
|3 days 12 hours ago||Michigan Links||
|4 days 18 hours ago||Double post.||
|4 days 18 hours ago||Doesn't matter either way||
What I care about is the game on the field, not the stands. I miss Michigan football being competitive and playing for championships and titles. The stadium itself doesn't matter so much.
I mean, I will always be nostalgic. I miss being a student, and the haze over the bowl where students sat, and being able to buy tickets from anyone, and not being scanned, and being able to bring stuff into the stadium that is now verboten. I miss seeing dozens of girls passed up from the first row to the top of the stadium, and beach balls, and toilet paper, and apple cider bottles being sold for a pittance, and the art deco lettering spelling out "MICHIGAN STADIUM." But those things are never coming back. They are fond memories that I hold dear, but they are memories. As long as the team does well, and the administration doesn't gouge and nickel and dime every fan, I can live with the other changes, including the luxury boxes and all.
|6 days 1 hour ago||I'm with Harbaugh||
I'm with Harbaugh and others who support the Big 10 . . . I'm a partial Big 10 supporter. That means I'd like to see Wisconsin do well the rest of the way. Michigan State? No. I want Sparty's heart broken asap. So I'd bump ND out (I can't root for ND) and slide everyone but Wichita State down one to make room for Wisconsin. If Wisconsin makes it to the Final Four, but loses to Wichita State, I'd be perfectly happy.
Partly it is matchups. For instance, I'd love to see MSU lose to Oklahoma, or to NC State. But I think I'd rather see MSU beat Louisville. And if that happened, and MSU played Duke in the Final four, I'd really be torn. I hate to say it, but I'd rather MSU beat Duke than vice versa.
|1 week 25 min ago||Love that "there's a chance"||
I love that there's a chance Brown comes to Michigan. I'm definitely with those who are sick and tired of heariing recruits talk about the importance of academics, but then go to a decidedly poor school in terms of the same.
In related but different news, I kind of agree with Pitino, who said this week that high school kids should be given the option to go straight to the NBA. If a kid wants to go straight to the D league, and has zero interest in college, I think that should be an option. I completely understand the one and done route for those who have no interest whatsoever in academics, and are just in school to study basketball.
For anyone who has some interest in school, and isn't a clear top 5 or top 10 player, going to college for several years makes sense. I really think that two to three years of college is very helpful for all but the very best players.
|1 week 19 hours ago||Great post||
Thanks for the link . . . good to hear more about how practice is going. Glad to hear Morris is doing well. Although, I'll believe he is the starter when they take the field for the first game, and not before. Also am very intrigued by what will happen with Graham Glasgow. Hope that LTT rounds into form. Would love to see Pipkins up to to speed as well.
|1 week 1 day ago||Never had cable||
I just never got around to cable. Not quite true: had it "free" for the month or two trial period. Anyway, Here's the math: I've been in this house 17 years. If cable was $100 a month, I've saved $20k over that period. That means I've about paid for a new car by not having cable. If I lived in Ann Arbor, I think that would have paid for a season ticket to football and basketball over the same period of time.
Obviously, some cable is more, some less, but that seemed a reasonable round number. There are different questions only you can answer. How much sports do you watch? Do you have friends you can watch a game with? What kind of antenna reception do you get? What are the stations available via antenna? Are there sports bars nearby?
Via antenna, I get CBS, NBC, ABC, WGN, Fox, PBS, and a few others (I'm in suburban Chicago.) I'm able to see several games on ABC. I go to a couple games live. I go to a friend's house for a couple more. There are conflicts for several others. And the rest I can go to the local sports bar and watch. The amount of money I pay to bring beer and snacks to a friend's house, or to pay for the bar tab, is almost nothing compared to what I've saved by not having cable. Now, if I was a 20 year old sports addict, it would be harder. But I'm not. The truth is, other than sports, I watch almost no TV. And I can get a DVD from redbox or the library when I want to watch a movie.
For me, I can't think why anyone who watches their money would even consider having cable. I know there are reasons, but you're just paying for a service that is way overpriced. The other thing is, if you have cable, I think you're tempted to watch more TV, because you feel you have to get your money's worth by watching something you paid for. That just encourages wasted time.
|1 week 2 days ago||I think you're right||
I think you're right about it being an informal convention. There are certainly very strong feelings about it. There is no point to an OT post on religion per se. Even an OT post about religion and U of M is probably not wise.
Where it gets a little tricky is with threads like this. By the very nature of Liberty University (Jerry Falwell, creationism, etc.) it almost invites comments. Because of the intersection with Jeff Meyers, it is kind of a grey area.
Harbaugh actually has made some comments about religion that have been quoted. Occasionally athletes do the same thing. Most of the time, the faith life of coaches and players stays private, as I think it should in our culture, at a public university.
To the best of my knowledge, we haven't had anyone like Tebow, who almost invites commentary. (and much of it negative.) However, when players choose to address religion or faith publicly, and are covered in the media doing so, it almost becomes "on topic." If the players choose to answer religious questions publicly (or the coaches,) that is their perogative. I'm not a reporter, so I don't really know the ethics of how they choose to address spiritual things that are brought up by players.
I'm not going to bother finding links, but you can find articles on Beilein, on Meyers, on Hatch, on Morgan, on Burke, on Harbaugh, among others. I think they don't hide their faith, but they don't highlight it either. Faith issues are important to me personally, but this is a sports blog, and I'm fine with that. As I said above, faith life isn't directly relevant to coaching or playing.
I will be inconsistent and provide one link: Here is an article about Jim Harbaugh and his Catholic Church service trips to Peru:
To me, this is awesome. But it really doesn't matter in terms of his coaching of Michigan.
EDIT: If someone is interested in this kind of topic, Google is your friend. Typing in a coach's or players name and "faith" will often bring up articles.
|1 week 2 days ago||I guess we'll find out what Meyer will consider||
Maybe Liberty is the only one offering Meyer. Maybe he is too old to get a head coach position elsewhere. I suspect he would fit in the culture of Liberty. I know a little bit about him (know some people at the church he attends in AA.) However, that's not really relevant, other than the fact that I know he is a person of faith, and there probably are some faith guidelines necessary for a coach at Liberty. If you read the article I linked to elsewhere in this thread, it seems Meyer had success at Liberty, and it went to their president's head. My guess is there is a new administration, and they'd love to have Meyer back.
Regarding your other comments, I agree. Whether or not someone is trustworthy has limited connection to their religious beliefs. And the nature of someone's religious beliefs has limited connection to what kind of coach they would be.
I personally like the idea of coaches who are ethical and take the high road. But this doesn't mean that they need to be a Christian. Nothing infuriates me more than a coach who is public about spiritual things and then acts unethically. Exhibit A for me: Jim Tressel. I'd much rather have a quiet, ethical coach (Beilein?) rather than someone who wears their faith on their sleeve and is a total cheat and hypocrite.
|1 week 2 days ago||Strongly agree||
I strongly agree with you. The religious beliefs of any coaches are irrelevant to his (or her) recruiting or coaching duties. Michigan should seek the best coaches possible regardless of their personal belief (or lack thereof) in a higher being of some kind. I'd want a coach to be evaluated in terms of wins and losses and how they reflect on the University.
However, I'll make three observations.
|1 week 2 days ago||It can be complicated||
It can be complicated. I don't believe that Beilein ever brings religion into his coaching, although I don't know personally. From what I have heard and seen, he doesn't hide his faith, but it isn't something he forces on the team.
I also don't believe that a coach's faith or lack of faith has a direct correlation to his coaching ability. There are great coaches who have no faith in a higher being of any kind. Conversely, there are terrible coaches who have a strong faith in God. Honestly, Michigan would want the best coach possible, regardless of faith issues.
I also, FTR, don't believe that God is particularly with one team or another because of their faith or lack of faith. Again, I don't see any correlation.
I would agree that Beilein is a good coach and a good man, period. The most I would say is that there may be some correlation between someone of good character and someone of faith. But it isn't a clear causal connection. It gets tricky because there are always hypocrites out there. (those who claim faith, but don't live it out.)
Again, the most I'll say is that I believe Beilein and Meyer are a good fit because both are good men, men of integrity and honesty and humility and hard work. I do think that because of the scandal a few years ago, there was an interest in ethics and integrity when a coaching search was done. I am confident that Beilein may have been the best coach out there in this regard. I don't suspect that Beilein's faith life or lack thereof was a factor when the search was done.
|1 week 2 days ago||Will spell it out||
The article I linked explicitly mentions that Beilein and Meyer shared many of the same values.
Yes, Beilein is Roman Catholic, Meyer is Evangelical. Having said that, their faith is important to both of them, although neither are very public about this. Their personal faith and values are personal.
My observation is that there is often more in common between a committed Catholic and a devoted Evangelical than there is between a committed Catholic and a Catholic in name only, or a devoted Evangelical and an Evangelical who gives faith lip service.
Beilein and Meyer work well together. The are a so-called "good fit." Both are men of high integrity, of faith and honesty and hard work. I apologize if that wasn't clear in my post.
|1 week 2 days ago||Good article on Meyer||
Some of you might remember an incident several years ago when Tom Crean got in Meyer's face after a Michigan - Indiana game. In the coverage afterwards, I remember reading a great article by Balas at The Wolverine tracing Meyer's coaching history. I did a search, and here it is:
There have been some pretty snarky comments here about Liberty and even about Meyer. I pretty much think that Beilein is cut from the same cloth. If you don't care for Jeff Meyer, you probably really don't like Beilein either. My personal thoughts? Both are great coaches, along with LaVell and Bacari. Meyer would be a significant loss, but I wish him well, and am sure we will manage if he moves on.
|1 week 4 days ago||Former coaches, not coaches||
I think the "Ged" caught my eye, as to why I responded.
And former coaches, not a coach. You are correcct.
Lastly, I'm not a mod, or an Internet Nazi, and so I don't typically comment. But just because I didn't comment in the past doesn't preclude me encouraging you to leave things like this unsaid.
My personal thought is that if he ends up at Michigan, it will be as a preferred walkon or the like.
|1 week 4 days ago||A GAME!||
Very cool to have a real scrimmage, a real game. Won't be able to tell a lot, but should be a lot more fun than anything we've seen for many years.
|1 week 4 days ago||March Madness?||
With Michigan out,
|1 week 4 days ago||I'm on safari when it happens . . .||
For a minute, I thought . . .
After which I thought, get a life! Why are you bothering with mgoblog if you are on safari.
After which I realized, I am probably old enough to be your father if I was confused that way.
|1 week 4 days ago||You may be right . . .||
But this isn't the place to put this kind of post up. Never put up posts that trash potential recruits. And for that matter, coaches. Note that I'm not necessarily questioning your position, only that you chose to put a post up about it. Stop now, and don't do it again.
|1 week 5 days ago||Wear what you want||
I'm in the "wear what you want" crowd. Now, I personally don't wear jerseys, and have no desire to. Never have, and doubt I ever will. But I know folks that do wear jerseys, and they're pushing 80.
For some reason, I think it's cute when boys wear jerseys. My 13 year old son was so excited to get his Denard jersey a couple years ago. He has a bunch of jerseys, from playing ball, and from elsewhere.
I also think the jerseys look great on his sisters. Grown men? It just isn't my style.
One way to think about this: would you like your mother and father to wear jerseys? In public? Going shopping, to the mall, to a movie, to church? If you're good with it, that's great. If you're not, that's probably a clue about what you think is appropriate for jersey wear.
Final thought: when I think of grown men wearing jerseys, here's the kind of image that comes to mind:
Just not the picture I like. I'll close where I began: wear what you want. But I don't want to wear a jersey.
|1 week 6 days ago||If not accurate, changed recently||
My nephew played for Ignatius, and last time I was in Cleveland, the Plain Dealer had something about Grbac coaching in that area.
|1 week 6 days ago||Thank you, Mike Cohodes||
Thank you, Mike Cohodes. This is personal to me. As a pastor, I am sick and tired of priests and pastors circling the wagons and protecting their own. (FTR, I have no idea what the fraternity of rabbi's do.) Regardless, the scandal we see in the Roman Catholic Church often has to do with the Vatican and the Bishops denying and hiding and covering up priest sexual abuse.
In my own church body, I had to lead in confronting a colleague who was abusing prescription medications, and was in complete deny, deny, deny mode. Sadly, the tipping point was when we brought in his own wife to confront him. It was very painful for everyone involved: the church, his family, myself. But at the end of the day, it was the right thing to do. Ignoring the problem, enabling dishonesty and lack of accountability, giving a pass to someone you knew and were friends with, just didn't wash.
I'm sad at what has happened, but feel very strongly about this. Frankly, I'd like to know what some of the parents of these Sammies think. The lessons these guys are learning are terrible. I wish more could be done.
I also think that SDT is getting a real pass here: certainly, some of those sorority sisters who were there knew exactly what was going on, and who was doing what. Enough ranting. I can't and won't read more about this whole situation.
|1 week 6 days ago||Brought it on themselves||
The Sammies brought it on themselves:
They had a decision to make, and they decided to stand together. The refusal to identify those involved in the trip and vandalism leaves me with absolutely no sympathy for any of them.
|1 week 6 days ago||Definitely a cool story bro post||
This definitely is a "cool story, bro" post. Any pics?
|2 weeks 13 hours ago||Yep||
Even though it brought a lot of ridicule, it really was hilarious and took a life of it's own. Here is a link to the followup post the next day: http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/metaot-epic-stupid-nsfw-post
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Great team, great year, Fantastic coaching, lots of fun||
I really have absolutely no regrets. I love Beilein, and wouldn't trade him for ANY other coach. I really think he is clean, no funny business, and does a great job with the players. And I think some of the AAU and HS coaches are realizing that more and more, and will help steer some players his way.
One thing . . . as regards LeVert, it would be great if he returns, but here's the thing. I truly believe that Beilein will seek what is best for LeVert. If he is really projected to be a top 20 first round pick, it would be fine to go. I think that Michigan and Beilein will be fine either way.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Not an either or question||
I don't think of this as Walton or Spike. We want and need both. Being in Chicago, and a Bulls fan, it is great to have lots of depth. Especially when you see D Rose go down . . . again. I want every single guy on the team. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't rather have Rose out there. I realize the NBA is different from the college game. But I think it is great to see starters sit and get a breather. Chicago didn't get good with Michael Jordan until he really embraced being part of a team.
This is why I don't envy several of the teams out there with big time stars. They too easily can be one and done players and not succeed as part of the team. Just look at Ohio State this year for an example. D'Angelo Russell is great, but with all their upper classmen, they really are a pretty meh team. Look at how we played Wisconsin compared to how Wisconsin demolished them last week . . . in Columbus. Michigan gave the Badgers a run for their money. Ohio State won't.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Thanks for the info||
I should have just linked . . . I subscribe to the Trib, and assumed it was paywalled.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Doyle?||
I get Spike and Irvin playing the whole game. But iirc, Doyle was on the bench a lot. I think it was in anticipation of Wisconsin, and I think Doyle played Wisconsin and Kaminsky very, very well.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||You missed two||
Morgan, and even Horford. Give us any one of Morgan, McGary, and Horford, and one of Robinson, LeVert, and Walton, and this year would have been vastly different. It still was very enjoyable. I think what Beilein did with the roster he had was absolutely stupendous, incredible, unbelievable.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Short term vs. Long term Thinking||
Lake Delton, WI is outside of the Dells, and likewise, a location with vacation homes, etc. There was a lot of whining and moaning when the dam collapsed in 2008. But it forced needed improvements, and things are actually much better. In other words, it was a pain for them in the summer of 2008, but things quickly rebounded.
In Ohio, if the lake was drained, I suppose they could dredge a reasonable amount of it? (although, that's an awful lot of area to dredge.) At the very least, tree trunks and debris can be removed.
Imhe, it is better to be proactive than to wait for disaster to strike.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Dam, not Damn||
Although, I would hazard a guess the latter word is used 99% more than the former.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I like it||
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Take Him||
Not much to add, but I'm in the chorus of those saying, win now. I'm tired of the next year refrain, and I've been guilty of using it myself. Carpe Diem. I actually think the OL is starting to gel, which will help. So many good things I see:
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Ok||
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Kind of agree with you||
I kind of mostly agree with you. (how's that for a weaselly statement?) With the nature of nostalgia and looking back, you tend to, as you write, have a "photo album of sunny days." Obviously, my fraternity didn't err in the particular ways of race and property, at least not egregiously.
I guess, however, that I think we give ourselves a pass too often, in too many ways, and excuse bad behavior. In the case of my fraternity, I can think of several things. One is the tolerance and implicit approval of alcohol abuse. I wouldn't tolerate today what I did then. A specific subset of that was guys in the house trying to get girls drunk, presumably so they would be more amenable to sex. Not far removed from date rape and roofies, imhe.
Speaking of sex, another problem was viewing women as trophies, as notches on a belt, as someone to have casual sex with, but nothing else. There was a lot of sexism and a lack of respect. That's another area where I've grown up.
Something more hidden, more difficult to root out, is the sense of elitism, of pride, of privilege inherent in many fraternities. I've been aware of my own elitism, living in a blue collar area for many years now. There's a kind of paternalistic, snotty, dismissive attitude too common among many fraternities and sororities. It isn't just failing to have a proper sense of noblesse oblige. It is literally feeling you are better than others, somehow, because of your fraternity, your education, your race, your privilege, your religion. This, I think, is something very common among Greeks, common in a way that many are not even aware of it.
This is the kind of thinking you see with "middle class" Palo Alto Michigan student Jesse Klein. I think it is pretty easy to have blind spots, and not even be aware of the problems we each have.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||You've made my point more eloquently||
Lynching is beyond the pale. Singing "Nigger" when you are from white privilege is just wrong. It will always be wrong. There is no context that I can think this is acceptable. I understand that some people think some pretty horrible things. But society has to censure such speech and behavior, if we are to have society at all.
I do like the idea of diverse ideas in a University community. I think the idea of diversity is a great ideal, but often doesn't happen . . . ironically, some of the most forward thinking individuals can be the most closed minded. But this whole chant is another thing altogether.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Not quite||
Not quite, Bodogblog. FTR, grew up in inner-city Chicago on the west side. In a race diverse area. Mrs. SRK didn't get a degree, nor join a sorority. Think about some of these issues now because I currently live in a majority - minority community (i.e., 40% white, 30% hispanic, 20% asian, 6% black, 4% other.) I certainly have done things I regret, race wise and otherwise. Will strongly agree with you that navel gazing is often a waste of time. But some self reflection is worth while. That old "the unexamined life is not worth living" thing.
One of the things that I read yesterday (and I don't think I commented anywhere) was that this kind of racist chanting had a real history at OU and at a number of SAE chapters in Texas. In other words, this wasn't surprising to some in the know. That's something that was new to me. I had no idea this kind of thing went on. I honestly am curious about the experience of others.
Oh, and I vaguely remember that my fraternity was kicked off campus at Michigan back in the 20's for alcohol and bathtub gin during prohibition. So not like I'm coming from a place that never did stupid things. Glass houses and all.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Not sure||
Not sure of that. I get that legally, they didn't do anything "criminal," because of free speech laws. However, can't the University have different standards, and expect not just what is "legal," but what fits their speech code? People can say all kinds of heinous things (racist, sexist, homophobic, etc.) But it seems to me that this could be grounds for dismissal. Well, at the end of the day, I don't know, and as said in the thread, I can't imagine expelled students wanting to "sue" OU or to bring this up publicly.
One thing for sure: with camera phones and video, I would hope the current generation understands they can be held accountable for anything they say and do.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Think you mean SAE house mom||
Zoltan, I think you mean the SAE house mom, not the Sammie house mom. It would be too ironic for her to be at Sammie: their history, according to Wikipedia, is a Jewish only Fraternity from their founding in New York in 1909 until they became "open" in 1953. LINK: Sigma Alpha Mu. SAE, on the other hand, was founded in 1856 at Alabama, and their heritage as a fraternity from the deep south would explain (but not excuse) this kind of racism.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||What are grounds for expulsion?||
What are grounds for expulsion? I mean, this just seems completely unacceptable to me. It is beyond comprehension to me that someone could sing this, or believe this. If this doesn't warrant expulsion, what does? It isn't criminal: people have the right to say or sing what they want. But it would seem to me that the bar is lower, so to speak, for a University. I would think they can choose to expel whoever they want for any number of reasons.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||It cuts both ways||
Maybe Beilfeldt decides to go early. Maybe he decides to wait until it is clear there is no room. It isn't that Beilein is stringing him along. And because of the time commitment (i.e., 4 years,) Beilein can't hand out offers like candy.
Specifically, I would wait until the following possibilities are gone:
If none of these four plus one happen, plus LaVert stays, then yes, extend a fifth year to Beilfeldt. If LaVert stays, and Moritz wants to come, and Brown wants to come, well, we have to find a way to make room for all of them. Even if that meant Beilfeldt not returning, and Hatch taking a medical or special scholarship the rest of the way.
|3 weeks 19 hours ago||Few suggestions||
So, it wasn't clear from your initial post, but have you been on campus before? If not, I would probably try to do some things on the campus proper. Walk through main campus, the law quad, walk through Nickels Arcade, check out Michigan swag, etc. I'll defer to current students and townies for restaurant recommendations right on campus, but I'd consider staying close, as in Cottage Inn for pizza. It also helps a little bit to know what kind of food you want, your budget, etc. I mean, Blimpies and Pizza Bob's are great and cheap. I love Zingerman's, but it isn't right on campus and is kinda pricey for what you get. Still worth going, but just saying.
Being you're going to Ann Arbor, I doubt it makes any difference whatsoever, but remember that this is Easter weekend. It won't matter Good Friday, and if you're leaving Saturday for Fort Wayne, it won't matter then either. But it might affect a few places on Easter Sunday.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I love me some snark||
I love me some snark. I am sure you're right about JH (and that tweet of his.) I'm also sure that Meyer and Saban can be snarky.
I think the thing for me is not the snark, but what you apply it to. I would hope and assume that all of the coaches I listed would do the right thing in a situation like this. It would bug me if Meyer had done this, for mgobloggers to dismiss his actions as being self-serving and cold and calculated. That's all I was saying, and I think it was underscored by the fact that JH and Minick refused comment. They probably would have been happier if no one had known what they had done.
I find it interesting that JH regularly goes to do service work in South America . . . but there is not a whole lot published about it. He is happy to do it, but would prefer to do it without any publicity or accolades. Would that all of us acted in that way.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Best thing: "Anyone would have done it"||
This is the money quote for me. You do something because it is the right thing to do, not because it will result in good pub or a photo op, etc. This reflects well on JH and Minick. "True heroism is remarkably sober, very undramatic. It is not the urge to surpass all others at whatever cost, but the urge to serve others at whatever cost." Arthur Ashe.
FTR, Eleven Warriors, albeit grudgingly, gave props to JH several days ago on this. I guess I cringe a bit at all the posts denegrating Meyer/Dantonio/Saban/Weis/Hoke. As I reflect on Bo, I believe he was Woody's fiercest rival, but the men respected each other and weren't snarky about each other. I heard more than a little snark from D. Brandon. I don't think that is Harbaugh's MO. Just my two cents.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I hate some of these hypotheticals||
I hate some of these hypotheticals. Too many unanswered questions. Are you single? Married? Have children? Parents, siblings, others? What kind of job? What kind of jail? (White collar, ok, but tell me what's involved?) Without knowing more of your circumstances, it is impossible to answer.
I would never do this . . . now. Couldn't stand the thought of missing my wife, my teenage children, my daughter in the Navy, my career, and on and on and on. Maybe if I was 17 or 18, and had no commitments, and nothing that I'd likely be missing (death of a parent, marriage of a sibling/best friend, attendance at college, etc.)
|4 weeks 13 hours ago||So many . . . how do you choose?||
So many to choose from.
|4 weeks 13 hours ago||Love my Navy Champion Reverse Weave Sweatshirt||
Very basic . . . Navy sweatshirt, Champion reverse weave, maize "Michigan" sewn onto the front. Getting ragged, but that's a great sweater.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||This is the story that keeps on giving||
This is the story that keeps on giving. I do believe that investigators are being very thorough in their questions, one by one, of all the Sammies and SDT's who were actually there. Once they have done that, they can start cross referencing what each person said, and go back for second and third rounds of questions. I'd be interested to know if the investigation has come up with anyone who shared photos or vids from cell phones and cameras. Can you imagine what would happen once some of the actual perps are confronted with vids of themselves in the act of destroying property?
I think that there are very significant screws that can be applied, and bargaining chips that are out there. If the University offers non-expulsion clauses to students willing to fess up, some will turn and provide evidence against fellow fraternity brothers. Same thing with criminal charges. Same thing with financial penalties. I am not a lawyer, but I can imagine that that in a local jurisdiction, if punitive penalties could possibly be assessed, this could also change the tune of some who have so far remained silent.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Distinction between mean and rape fueled||
Look, everyone has to deal with the reality of mean speech. Schilling says as much. But when it is directed to your daughter? And not just being mean, but saying she is easy, a slut, should be fisted, raped, filled with a Louisville Slugger? Is there any kind of boundary? Any kind of sense when lines have been crossed from mean speech to completely inappropriate speech? More than that, is it wrong if perps of this kind of misogynist speech are publicly identified and held accountable?
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Appreciate this post||
Thank you, Stephen, for linking to this article. Last year, I attended a lecture by Dr. Catherine Steiner Adair, a clinical instructor in the Dept. of Psychiatry at Harvard. She spoke partially on how the veil of anonymity and the nature of social media (blogs, FB, twitter, texting, etc.) had led to a huge explosion of inappropriate speech. IIRC, this was particularly a problem with teen males coming from privilege. The normal self-imposed filters used in actual conversations were largely gone. Working from the anonymity of a keyboard and a flickering screen, bullying, misogynist language, extremely crude and inappropriate images, were becoming more and more common.
Interestingly, the power to deal with this is there, as noted by Curt Schilling. If you know what you're doing, you can quickly unveil the real identity of Internet tough guys. There was a fascinating article entitled (LINK:) Goodbye Internet Anonymity: Swedish Tabloids Publicly Shame Forum Users. In that particular instance, public and political figures who had posted anonymously on Internet Forums were publicly outed, similar to what Schilling did with the jerks who posted on his daughter.
Here in Chicago, there were articles in the Sunday Tribune about Chicago Blackhawk player Sharp, and the anonymous slander and libelous claims made against him (see the mgoblog post (LINK:) "Blackhawks' forward Patrick Sharp Locker Room Cancer.") The claim in the Trib is that the reports of dissenion among the Blackhawks, and the claims made against Sharp, are not true and not substantiated. Again, with anonymity, cruel, spiteful, slanderous, hateful speech is easily spread.
Brian and Seth and FB and other Internet forum providers rarely highlight the fact, but they can actually reveal the identity of any users who greatly abuse their posting privilege. We talk about deleted posts and Bolivia and the Banhammer, but the real nuclear option would be to for any Internet forum to publicly identify the name, contact info, address, etc., of people writing horrible things.
It is a great question: should people be held accountable for their speech and actions? I think this is why the Treetops story continues to have traction. Many have asked, in the case of the Treetops debacle, why should young white males from a life of such privilege and wealth NOT be held accountable for clearly malicious and destructive action? Why should their anonymity be upheld?
As the father of three, including a beautiful 21 year old daughter currently in the Navy, I completely get what Schilling did, and am glad for the dialogue this opens.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Many reasons||
There are several reasons for the conference tournaments, most of which are mentioned above.
There are, however, several other reasons, some of which are related to the above.
Some teams really develop or grow over the season. I actually think Beilein's teams are emblematic of this. Imagine, theoretically, if Caris and Walton both came back this week. (Caveat: we know this isn't happening, but imagine.) If those two guys were on the floor and healthy, Michigan actually could get lucky and win it all. Without the tourney, that couldn't happen. The reason it is called a Cinderella story is because it happens so rarely. The casual fan really loves Cinderella teams, much more than the 800 pound gorilla team that always wins.
Opportunity for basketball fans to see lots of games in a short time window with teams they might not have seen otherwise. I went to the tourney in Chicago two years ago. For someone who really loves basketball and has the disposable cash, it is great. You have 13 games over five days. If your team is decent (say in the top 5 - 6 teams,) you have the opportunity to see them 3 times in3 days. If you're really lucky, 4 times in 4 days. And you can see some great matchups with other teams you normally would never go to. For someone not living in AA who can't do season tickets, this is especially awesome.
Tourney play is slightly different from regular season play.
All in all, the succinct "$$$$$" posts hit the nail on the head. But there are plenty of secondary reasons tournaments are played.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Show me the money||
As said above, this has been discussed in several different ways over the last week or so. Until we see something more definitive, it is just a lot of hearsay. I went to the two links you provided: they show Rudock, but nothing about this pending transfer.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||200 - 300 thousand a year not wealthy?||
As mentioned elsewhere, annual income in excess of $250k puts a family in the top 1%. Wealthy.
The fallacy is this. We are so segregated by income in the US that we can easily be surrounded by people in the same income strata. If everyone in your neighborhood has a similar house, similar vehicles, similar income, it is easy to assume you are like "everyone else." The elitism and privilege and cluelessness is mindboggling to me.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Support Sexybits ban||
I support the Sexybits ban. Anyone who wants sexybits knows where to find them. I am very thankful not to find them here. I'll check mgoblog periodically during the work day. The last thing I need is for a member of my church or visitor to my office to see some jiggly sexy bits bouncing across my monitor. That would pretty much end mgoblog usage for me, among other things.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||A corollary to the title thing||
Here's a corollary to the title thing. And I have a title. I am a pastor. I have been called many things. I am fine with Pastor Kass, Pastor Steve, and in most cases, just Steve. My pet peeve is kids. Specifically, I am not fond of teens and younger calling me by my first name. It just seems . . . too familiar. I realize this is partly my own hangup: I want my own children to respond to others with respect, and calling a teacher or doctor or pastor by their first name will never seem right to me.
Another honorific thing: my grandparents (most of them) came from Germany. I asked my grandmother once if I should use "Du" oder "Sie." The answer was a definitive "Sie."
Having studied in Korea for a while a long time ago, I gather that there definitely were expectations on how youth addressed adults. Don't know if that has changed or not.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||I'm completely with you Seth||
I'm completely with you Seth. Having taken photos for 2/3 of my life, and correcting for color, I see white and gold. And even with the picture on the right, I see an improperly exposed photo. For me, the problem is how the question is asked. You can ask two different questions:
The first question is what was asked, so I go with white and gold.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Cool||
My sister, among other things, has a food blog (http://lostrecipesfound.com/) lives in Skevanston, and has done a fair amount with recipe testing and baking. You may have crossed paths sometime.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Took me a second . . .||
Took me a second to get the Justin & Spike reference. Which reminds me of three things:
|4 weeks 4 days ago||How'd you become a Wolverine fan?||
Demetrious, how'd you become a Michigan fan? Were you originally from Michigan?
EDIT: my daughter is an ACNT in Norfolk. What is your rating, or are you an officer?
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Best if incident just fades away||
It would be best if the incident just faded away. And better if no one mocks it. I hope you're right: this isn't the best kind of publicity. (And FTR, even though more news on this has come out, I haven't created a thread about it, nor do I plan to do so.)
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Most money||
I'd like to see the Big 10 get the most money for the conference. I tend to favor NBC or Fox over ESPN, but it doesn't matter that much to me.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||About myself||
Name: Obvious! (having said that, I'm not a huge fan of anonymity.)
City: Carol Stream, IL
HS: Lane Tech, Chicago; Taylor Center, Taylor, MI
Sports: Track, Cross Country
Hobbies: Photography, cycling, hiking, piano
Personal: happily married to woman in avatar, 3 kids (daughter an Aegis Computer Network Tech in Navy, adopted 13 year old twins, boy and girl)
Fan: Michigan. Also Chicago pro teams: Bears, Bulls, Blackhawks, White Sox.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Eleven Warriors actually loves this||
Eleven Warriors actually loves this. I was curious, so I wandered over. So far, 8 positive responses, 0 negative responses.
I guess it's good to have a sense of humor. But I'd rather see the Onion lampoon OSU or MSU than Michigan. Speaking of mocking Michigan, I'm kinda surprised that we haven't seen SNL or the Onion put together a mockumentary news report on the Sammies/SDT's January ski trip debacle at Treetops. It's only a matter of time . . .
|4 weeks 4 days ago||the one "additional" thing||
I think you mean the one "additional" thing. We have had great guard play, and some great guys on the wings at forward. But more size would be very helpful. Being in Chicago, I see how much of a difference Gasol and Noah and Mirotec make. Their size is a huge advantage, especially since they can also shoot. Adding that to the mix for Michigan would put us in the running for championships regularly.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||7 foot club||
Not a whole lot of guys in the 7 foot club. I'm glad to see that he is putting on weight too. Bill Laimbeer was "only" 6'11", and had a listed playing weight of 245. But he was solid, was big, and was a real presence. To have Jon Teske at 7 feet or more, with some muscle mass, will be a huge help for the team.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Wondering . . .||
I think that Baylor realized they would or could be hammered by the NCAA. When this became obvious, they released the statement, insuring that they stayed in compliance with NCAA rules and guidelines. I completely understand, if that is the case. Baylor would not have taken this action except for the NCAA rules. The NCAA had nothing to do with declaring him ineligible. Baylor was proactive in staying in compliance with the NCAA.
Now, if the NCAA is proactive, and tells Baylor that Baylor would receive an exception and be allowed to give a scholarship in this particular case, then the plot would thicken. The NCAA could call Baylor's bluff, so to speak. That would put it back on Baylor. If that happened, Baylor would look pretty bad not to take the young man on. Although, I suppose he could look to go to a team somewhere, anywhere, that wanted his talents on their squad. (provided, again, they hadn't run afoul of NCAA rules and guidelines.)
What a tangled web we weave.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Several bad experiences||
Several bad experiences.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Crummy day to be a Chicago fan||
First D Rose, then Patrick Kane out for 6 - 10 weeks. It is really crummy.
Have to say, I'm very interested to see how the Bulls do without Rose. I'm not convinced that they will wither away to nothing. With Gasol, Noah, Butler, and Mirotec, I think they might go pretty far, especially if Aaron Brooks and Heinrich can manage at PG.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||It is about both||
It's really about both . . . I was one of those poor Michigan students back in the day. By selling tickets for one or two games, it brought the cost for the rest of the games down to a very low price. Of course, tickets cost much, much less when I was buying them in the late 70's.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Why we can't have nice things||
I remember this well. This is a great example of the "why we can't have nice things" principle. The cheering is fine and all, but when it goes over the line, it goes over the line badly. And the perps have a pretty entitled "F you" attitude toward anyone who suggests anything different.
I particularly understand the thing with visiting parents being near the visitor bench. If you've been in enough hostile environments, it is even more understandable.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||How can a spammer join the blog?||
Mods? How does this happen? Get rid of this nonsense. Thank you, and good bye.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Interesting question||
Short answer: nothing. I'm giving up nothing for Lent.
Long answer: probably nothing. I mean, there will be some changes for me in Lent. But maybe I'm inconsistent. Maybe I fail. Which is ok. Giving up something, just for Lent, seems a manmade rule, questionable in keeping.
Longer answer: I'm cutting back on a couple of things.
So, if you don't see me here til April 5, I made it! Still love the blog, but this is probably a good time of the year for a break anyway. Signing off.
EDIT: I just don't get the readers who are EITHER staunch anti-religionists OR staunch believers who continue to get their shorts in a wad about posts like this. SMH, rollng my eyes, frowning. You know, while I'm a strong Christian, and I observe Lent, I really don't care whether or not anyone else on the blog does. It's none of my business. But this is Brian's blog, and those of you who can't handle it are like a whiney 13 year old girl (I have one, so I know) continually complaining that something isn't fair. Lighten up and get a life.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||I'm Confused||
So, I'm confused. You could mean one of the following:
Not sure which it is. Please clarify.
|6 weeks 11 hours ago||Great post, great share||
This was definitely worth my time. Loved the story. Thanks much for sharing. Wish I could give you a bunch of points.
|6 weeks 16 hours ago||I don't like thread idea||
I personally know of athletes who were jerks. But even so, I don't feel the needto highlight that for others. The truth is, most people have done questionable things. Best to let sleeping dogs lie.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||"Not suitable for work or home" thread||
My most unpopular thread idea was a thread posted on a Saturday night whining about Not suitable for work or home pictures in posts. (aka NSFW / NSFH / NSF Mrs. SRK.) It was back in the day when Brandon was popular on this board, and was being lauded for a bitch slap action. There was a photo that morning of a young kid giving a slap. I watched in fascinated horror as that thread grew. Not popular. Stupid.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||actually, no||
Actually, I'd never write a sermon about a member. And would never name a member in a negative connotation, even in passing. I think the context is different, but point taken.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Too Hard||
First, I think that with Harbaugh and the coaching staff he has put together, everyone will step up. While this is a cliche, it is critical for the TEAM to ALL play better. Mattison and others regularly commented on how the failure of one player to do what needed to be done caused the whole thing to fall apart.
Second, in terms of units, not players, I think that this year, 3 units will improve quite a bit:
Third, in terms of players, I will go with:
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Great article||
Thanks so much for posting. I'll be giving you plus ones any time I see your avatar. This was very helpful for me to understand some of the details on what happened. Thanks much.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Want to understand||
So, Moe, I am really trying to understand your points. Let me try to understand.
Frankly, with the kind of nonsense that has come out of this, I could understand Brian wanting to have nothing to do with revealing himself at all, in any way, to anyone on this blog.
EDIT: FTR, I have not contacted Weiss or Weinberg. I will never contact them. It would be a total waste of my time to contact them. And honestly, I'd literally bet a steak dinner Brian won't contact them either. The rule out there is, never contact a student if you are an adult, unless you have a prior relationship.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Reflection of Culture||
I absolutely hate the "everyone does it, so who cares?" argument. This whole thing is a reflection of the "win at all costs" mentality that is so prevalent in our culture.
I am hopelessly naive. I'd rather win the right way, or not at all. This is why I love Beilein. I hope and think that he does things the right way. And you know what? I'd rather have that then the shenanigans going on at Kentucky and Louisville and Kansas and Duke.
This is why, even if it is technically ok, I hate things like Drayton and Urban's recruiting of Weber at OSU, and why I'd rather Michigan lose a player than gain one by doing things that way. (Interesting question: I wonder what they would have said if Weber had asked point blank, "Coach Drayton, will you be here as my position coach through at least the next season?"
This win at anything culture is why I hated the surreptitious filming done by the Patriots years ago. And it is also why I really hope there was nothing to the deflategate nonsense.
This is part of the reason I liked Hoke, and why I think parents and kids liked Hoke. (Even though he needed to leave.) Hoke wasn't a "win at all costs" kind of guy, and it cost him his job. I really have hope for Harbaugh, but yeah, I don't want bag men and shady booster types and girls who are provided to give favors to recruits.
Brian has said (implied?) that to compete, we need to do the same thing. I don't want to go there. I don't. My hope is that Harbaugh is a man of integrity, and that Michigan will win the right way, fair and square.
End of rant, TL;DR. Point: win the right way, or don't play the game at all.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Overwhelming majority of Chicagoans believe this is fair||
For the record, an overwhelming majority of poll takers in the Trib believe this decision to strip the team of the title is fair. In a group of more than 2,000 respondants, 81% believe the decision was appropriate.
The race card certainly is being played, at least by one alderman in Chicago. (Haven't heard from Sharpton or Jackson yet.) Certainly, some team parents and others are telling players that they've been "robbed," and that the title can't really be taken away.
In the Chicago area, this was definitely a "feel good" story. And it is true that there aren't that many African American players in Little League. Having said that, they clarly cheated, and the rules are pretty clear.
With my son having played baseball for quite a few years, I am certainly aware of how some people will do anything they can to win. Sad all around, but as I said in the OP, I definitely believe this was the right thing to do.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Yep, this was it||
Yep, this was it. I completely get what Chris Rock was saying, and I agree with it.
So, I'm a pastor in a church. I've heard a million jokes about God and Mary and Jesus and Peter and pastors and priests and rabbis and so on and so forth. The thing is, no matter what they're about, some jokes are good, and some are bad. Has always been that way, will always be that way. But you have to be really, really, careful who you tell what joke, and where. You have to have a spidey sense of what is offensive, and where it is offensive, etc. And the truth is, the bar is higher for me: as a pastor, there are some jokes I just don't tell, unless with a very specific group.
It is like this everywhere. Race, religion, gender, sexual preference, etc., etc., etc., you have to be so careful with who you're potentially going to offend. Brian is kind of in that position, and it is a pain in the rear. As a "public" figure, the rules have shifted for him. Whether you're a blogger like Brian, a coach (Hoke, Izzo, Urban, Harbaugh,) a professor, a pastor, a politician, etc., you are under much more of a microscope. It changes what you can do and what you can't. You have to mind your p's and q's, and no matter what you do, someone is going get their nose bent out of joint. Unfortunately, it goes with the territory.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Like 'em both||
I'll never get tired of "The Victors," but also like "Varsity." They'll always be popular in my book.
Regarding the stupid idea put forth by Weiss & Weinberg:
EDIT: I am among those who really like the "Yellow and Blue." Love to hear it. Simple melody, recognizable, enjoyable. What I really need to do is put together my own personal CD with all of these wonderful songs.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Go to their websites||
Go to their respective websites.
Weiss: Watch the videos shot by Weiss. Kid from Miami area. Read his CV at his Linkedin site. Go through his twitter acct. See his home down in FL. It is all there.
Weinberg: Actor from LA. In Home Alone 4, among others. Again, it is all there.
After you have done this, the conclusion they come from significant money, connections, and opportunity is obvious enough. If you need me too, I can provide links and pages, but it is all there in the previous posts today. Only thing I didn't figure out is what house Weiss the "Fratographer" is part of. Didn't look that hard, but would be interesting to know if he is a Sammie.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||No worries||
Pretty sure Adam's daddy or one of his daddy's friends will be able to pull strings to get him a job. Mr. Weiss and Mr. Weinberg will be just fine. Actually, they'll be better off: this is part of the necessary education they came to get from Michigan.
Oh, and regarding the threat? You really need to listen to the Liam Neeson clip from Taken. The so-called "threat" Brian delivered is straight from this Neeson screed. And it should be patently obvious that Brian was being sarcastic. But as I said elsewhere, he failed to use the /s tag. So it turns out that many people here have their shorts in a wad about the "cyber-bullying."
I've half a mind to link to the "Leave Britney alone" video.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||I'll go with NIT over NCAA||
I think the more games Michigan plays, the better for the players (in terms of prep for next year.) I'd love to see them win a couple in the Big 10 Tourney, then go deep in the NIT. That could happen if Walton is back, Donnal and Doyle continue to develop, along with Rahkman and Dawkins, and the light finally goes on for Chatman. What's the point in going to the NCAA and winning a game at most, depending on how we're seeded?
EDIT: Obviously, your goal is the NCAA, and you play to win every game, always, period. But I think making it to the NIT is a worthy end to this season.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Concede||
I concede. Plus one to you. Obv. David has a ton to do with the NT. Should have just said he wasn't an author in the NT, or a disciple/apostle. (And, really, Psalms could be entitled "The Psalms of David and others.")
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Thanks!||
I knew Brian was being sarcastic. I didn't know the reference, not having seen taken. But like I said, too many people didn't get the joke and had their shorts in a wad.
There was an interesting article (post here?) about how college students don't have a sense of humor, and the scope of things you can joke about has shrunk. Basically, you can joke about white guys and Christians. Now, I've never been one for lots of jokes that give offense. But man, people in general have a pretty thin skin. The new McCarthyism, if you will.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Just went to motion links||
Just went to motion links. I am not jealous of Adam Weiss. But the world he lives in, the privilege he comes from, is very obvious. Not my tastes, not my style, but to each his own. Having said that, it is clear he is mind-bogglingly clueless about the world he comes from, and the real world. He is about to get an education.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||What fraternity?||
It'd be too rich if he was a Sammie. Then again, if he was, maybe he has some cool insider ski trip photos he could post.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Brian forgot to use /s||
Brian forgot to use /s. Too many people have their shorts in a wad. Like Brian would destroy this kid's career. smh. Not gonna happen.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||You might be right||
From the Mlive article:
Regardless of where they're from, this doesn't seem a great idea. I agree with the poster that something like this needs to be more organic.
EDIT: Weiss is from Florida, Weinberg is from California. Still a stupid idea.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Interesting question||
So, is twitter public or not? Has not Adam Weiss put up his own website?
His own Linked account? His own facebook account?
Wasn't he quoted, by name, in a Michigan Daily article?
You know, us crabby old people keep on hammering, "nothing on the Internet is private." If you choose to go public, if you choose to post all kinds of stuff on the Internet, you have INVITED this kind of scrutiny. You can't have it both ways. I am 100% with Brian on this one.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Oh. My. Goodness.||
I can't believe this nonsense. Here's a block quote from the Daily article:
So, who on here knows Adam Weiss and his friend, Mike Weinberg? What are they thinking? What circles do they run in? Are they MgoBloggers?
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Appreciate the post||
I appreciate the post. This is the kind of speculation that MGoBlog does such a great job of fostering. Just a few observations.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Great OT Post||
This is a great OT post, and one I think about often. My own 21 year old daughter joined the Navy a couple years ago. The reasoning was that she wasn't sure of a career path, and she saw too many friends ratcheting up huge amounts of debt. As it turns out, she is now an Aegis Computer Network Technician on a Destroyer. She got about 2 years of training in the Navy, for free. After working in this position for the next four years, she'll have incredible work experience, and be qualified for Network Analyst positions, with a starting salary ranging from 60 to 80k. No debt. And up to $180k in college expenses covered by the Navy if she wants a degree. I mourn that she didn't have the opportunity to attend Michigan. But, I don't think the path she took was a bad one. Our model of higher education is unsustainable.
There are so many facets that need to be considered.
I don't know all the answers, but I know the system as it currently stands is broken, and can't continue. Somehow, post World War II, we gradually moved to the idea that virtually everyone should go to college and get a degree. While I like the idea of a well rounded person, exposed to literature, music, philosophy, psychology, economics, the arts, etc., etc., it isn't working, and isn't affordable.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Interesting comment on "the whole Gospel covered"||
It was a good quip by Harbaugh. Funny. These are all Biblical names. Really, these names are all in the Bible "Top 10 Male Name" list. However . . . Harbaugh is incorrect in this case.
This is probably way, way, way more info than anyone cares to know. But hey, that's ok. I did find it interesting that our new kicker didn't have "Joseph" (Mary's husband) or "Peter" (the head apostle, known as the first Pope) in the list, two very popular names for many Catholic parents. Not being Catholic, I might be clueless about why that is.
EDIT: Should have read the whole thread before replying to the above poster. Just saw that my point is made below.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||What about for general student population?||
So, what if we applied this principle to the general student population? Here's what you said:
So, imagine that Michigan sends out 10,000 letters stating "Congratulations! You have been accepted to the University of Michigan! We look forward to having you join 5,000 new Freshman in the class of 2019."
It turns out that more than 5,000 accept Michigan's offer. Worse, 1,000 rock star students apply late in the cycle, but Michigan wants them. Would it be ethical for Michigan to send out a followup letter stating, "We have good news and bad news. An unprecedented number of excellent applicants accepted our invitation to enroll at Michigan next Fall. Unfortunately, as a result, we will need to delay your admission. Your GPA in your senior year Fall semester of High School was only 3.4. As a result, we are wait-listing you. You have the option of immediately attending UofM Dearborn, UofM Flint, or waiting until Winter term, 2016, or Fall term, 2016, to begin coursework in Ann Arbor."
The outrage would be off the charts. "You can't admit a student, and then pull their admission!!" But this is what you are stating is ok at Louisville.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Curious about that too||
I mean, it is nice and all that a banker gave him a ride to work, and that the supervisors and owners all love James Robertson, and feed him, at least sometimes. But is the wage structure such that there are lots of jobs like this at $10.55 an hour? And he just isn't suited for a promotion at all, or a raise? I get that there are plenty of entry level jobs where the pay range goes from minimum wage up to $10, $11, $12 an hour. But no one can live on $12 an hour. Well, it is hard. I suppose if you have 4 housemates sharing costs, you could make it work, but it isn't easy.
On a related tangent, this is why all you Michigan students need to work hard at school. (you didn't come to play school.) This gives more opportunities for a living wage. This is why Michigan grads are thankful for the doors opened by a Michigan degree.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Hat's off to you||
Hat's off to you. I have a community service worker who takes his bicycle to and from work, even with the heavy snow we've had in Chicago. Never late, great guy. Things are tight, and sometimes, choices in the past leave people with few good options.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||There is dignity in all work||
There is dignity in all work. I don't like how society has evolved, and how more than half the population is just a step away from disaster. I think the answer is more complicated than just raising the minimum wage, but that needs to be part of the discussion. In the case of James Robertson, he is making about 10 and a half bucks an hour: well more than the minimum wage, but still far less than needed to buy and maintain a car.
|8 weeks 49 min ago||The question for me is different||
The question for me is different. It isn't, "should I tweet at a recruit?" The question is, "should I tweet? Is there a reason for me to use twitter?" I'm not generally interested in having a group know a bunch of inconsequential minutiae of my life and my actions. Nor am I interested in trying to contact someone I don't know in this way. Nor am I interested in trying to come up with pithy and funny utterances of 140 characters or less.
I guess I can understand celebrities (actors? athletes?) sending out tweets that tons of followers can read about. But I really, for the life of me, have never figured out why I myself would want to use twitter. It kind of makes sense to me for Jim Harbaugh, Jay Harbaugh, Bacari Alexander, etc., to use twitter. But partly, it is a personality thing. I can't imagine Belichek using it. Does Tom Brady?
Seriously, since I am not a college student or a 20 something hipster, I'd love to hear from some of you who are: is there any good reason for someone in their 50's to use twitter? I'm not terrified of technology: have a desktop, laptop, tablet, and android phone. I text and use FB on occasion and as befits someone of my age, use email. I actually still use the telephone, and even send personal handwritten notes on occasion. But twitter has lost me.
The only reason I'd use twitter is to "follow" the coaches or Brian, and I suppose, a recruit. But I've never felt the need to do this, because of the internet addicts who kindly post relevant tweets here at MGoBlog. The benefit of knowing "first" isn't worth the effort.
Coming back to the OP, I love the flowchart, and am SMH that anyone in their right mind would even THINK of contacting a recruit. I can't even comprehend a fan doing this. Tweeting recruits would be as foreign to me as an idiot poisoning oaks at Toomer's corner.
|8 weeks 19 hours ago||Budweiser vs. Craft Beer||
I smiled at the Budweiser Commercial snark about craft beer lovers. If I drink beer, I'd be more of a fan of basic beer than some of the "pumpkin peach ale" stuff that is out there. jmhe.
|8 weeks 20 hours ago||Thanks for posting||
The system does not work well. I am not happy at his lack of a car, or at the lack of public transportation. Having said that, this was a thought provoking article, which I am glad to have read. His perseverence, dedication, humility, and hard work shine through.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||You're right||
You're right: I probably do have an overdeveloped sense of empathy. It is what it is.
McGary, here's the deal. If the rules are made clear, and the punishment clear, you're getting what you deserve. Maybe the rules should be changed, but that's a different story.
Clark, I don't want to go too far with. I'll just say, he has had a really, really hard life, with really bad role models. No justification, of course he deserved to be quickly released, and he was. I still feel crummy (overdeveloped sense at work there,) because of his life circumstances.
We can agree to disagree, no hard feelings here.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Don't like your post for many reason||
I don't like this post for many reasons, most of which are enumerated above. Some that come to mind:
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Let me use several examples||
Let me use examples when I have felt "bad."
In all three cases, the punishment is justfiable. In all three cases, they are getting what they deserved. In all three cases, they should have known better. And yet, I don't rejoice in their bad choices. Maybe, because I have made bad choices, I feel bad for those who do the same thing. Maybe, because I have three children who sometimes make bad choices, I feel bad for others who do the same thing.
For me, I rarely take joy or feel happy when someone screws up. And while I ALWAYS want Michigan to win, do I want them to win mostly because of the bad choices of others? Not really.
I don't feel that there should be no repercussions for bad choices. But I feel bad at the bad choices themselves, and the collateral damage for others affected, in this case, the coach and team.
EDIT: On a completely snarky level, it is bad form to publicly rejoice at the misfortunes of others by which you receive benefit. There was a thread here several weeks ago on Izzo, and his candor on this same topic (skewering him for being honest that he was happy when it was easier for MSU to win.)
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Loved article||
I loved the article. I came from regular folk, although not first gen. I live in a community that largely does not go to college. I have learned a lot of hard lessons about elitism over the last 20 years. This article definitely raises those issues. Thank you.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Several things||
The team is in great hands. I wouldn't be too worried.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||facepalm||
I'm an idiot. Good night.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Spanky reminds you of RR?||
Spanky reminds you of RR? No, I think your avatar reminds you of RR. Which raises the question: why do you keep an avatar of RR? It seems like a masochistic self-flagellation to keep an avatar of RR. There are things I block out of my memory. Like RR's tenure. To see a picture of him every time I post seems like a painful exercise.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||as you wish||
|8 weeks 5 days ago||18 commits?||
18 commits? I'm not sure . . . I think one or two less is more realistic, given the numbers. To get to 18 some serious stuff has got to happen, just to make room.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Football Saturdays my Freshman Year||
I'll never forget my first football Saturday as a Freshman in '77. I didn't grow up in Michigan, and had never been to a college game. I was the first person from my family to go to Michigan. Back then, all games were a noon start time. Promptly at 9am, blasting from the room next door from one of those massive stereo systems some guys had, came the full Michigan fight song, fanfare and all. It was, as they say, cranked to "eleven." This was right near the end of the Ten Year War and the classic games with Woody and Bo. As a clueless freshman, I didn't realize how good we had it. Bo Schembechler and a 10-2 season were a given. I woke up the same way every game day, and it never got old. Walking in the throngs down Hoover on a sunny Fall day, enjoying cider, seeing the blue haze of pot smoke floating languidly over the student section, seeing hundreds of coeds passed up the stands every time there was a score. It all melts together in my memory, and is a good thing.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Multiple issues & answers||
You really haven't given enough info.
I've spent time on all the campuses, and there are positives to all of them. In many ways, I don't think you can go wrong. I'd really want him to go to all three campuses, and spend time looking at the program (or programs) he is interested in. You can actually meet profs in that area, and get a feel for the strength of each program.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Question on Coach/Player interaction right now||
So, I'm curious about coach / player interaction right now. Are there any regulations on what the players can start to do as they adjust to the new staff? I can imagine that they would want to get going on strength training immediately. But I can also imagine them wanting to learn the playbook, and to do everything they can to get ready for Spring practice. Especially as some of the schemes and plays change, it would make sense that the current team would want to do everything they can to come up to speed.
A related but different question: how and when do players decide to leave the team? Obviously, Bosch had some kind of meeting or restrictions placed by Harbaugh, and decided to move on. Not sure what was up with Ferns. And with Hayes, I can understand the decision. But there was some scuttlebutt about several players who were expected to move on. Is there a time frame for that to be announced? This has a significant impact on how many recruits can be signed next week.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Would like a Wolverine Video||
So, I would love to see a stylized wolverine in a promo video for Michigan athletics. I've thought of this for years when seeing the Alaska Nanooks 2010 College Hockey video. It is gloriously cheesy. The trick is to pull off something that is over the top but not embarassing. Here's what they did:
|8 weeks 6 days ago||You must really care for the retro one||
You must really care for the retro one, with making a triplicate post.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Thanks for posting||
Thanks for posting. It sounds like the Sammies are really trying to do the right thing. It also sounds like the fraternity in general has done a great job, between their academic success, their philanthropy, and their involvement in the Greek community.
My guess is that they are going to do their best to identify those responsible for the vandalism, and hold them accountable. Perhaps they will be suspended from attending Michigan for a year or two or three, after which they can return and complete their education.
There was a fascinating article in the Washington Post about a student at Cornell. Keri Blakinger was apprehended with 50k in heroin in 2010. She was suspended indefinitely, banned from campus, and did jail time. Eventually, she reapplied, was readmitted, and was able to complete her education at Cornell. In her case, she was punished and was given a second chance. That seems like it could be appropriate for some here too.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Been pers. involved in admin of discipline in ed setting||
I have been personally involved in the administration of disciplinary actrion in a higher educational setting elsewhere. Sometimes, a student can be suspended from their school for a period of time. This theoretically gives them the opportunity to reflect on their poor choices. They can choose to never return, and to transfer elsewhere (assuming they can find a school that will accept them.) They also can choose to reapply and to come back to finish their degree several years later. While a few years seems like an eternity to an 18 year old, it really doesn't matter that much in the big picture. And it is the needed wakeup call to what life is really like for many.
There was a fascinating and informative article in last week's Washington Post. Keri Blakinger was a former competitive figure skater on a national level who attended Cornell. Cornell suspended Blakinger indefinitely after she was apprehended with more than 50k of heroin. In her case, she served prison time and worked on the outside before reapplying to Cornell. She graduated from Cornell last month. This was a 4 year delay, but she was fortunate to get a second chance. In other words, even with difficult punishment, you can move on in a healthy way. The shame is that we live at a time and in a culture when there are too few painful circumstances.
I myself was kicked out of UofM for poor grades, largely self-inflicted. It was painful, and hard work, but I eventually was able to continue at UofM and graduated, albeit delayed a few years. I wouldn't trade that part of my education for anything.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Ageusia||
You taught me a new word today. Thank you!
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Curious who the master chief and officers are||
What are Navy guys doing in dress uniform at the game? And whoever they are, they're high enough up to be somebody . . . there are fewer master chiefs than captains in the Navy . . . less than 1% of the enlisted Navy makes it that far.
(can't help but be curious, with my daughter in the Navy and currently underway.)
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Maybe we should quit playing the blame game||
Maybe we should quit playing the blame game and move forward. I find it interesting that Harbaugh praised Hoke, and didn't work to throw DB under the bus either. Those of you who have been involved in hiring and firing and changing direction know that while it's important to learn from the past, it also doesn't usually do much good to bitterly complain and whine about past mistakes. You learn and you move on.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Dymonte Thomas||
I feel crummy for Thomas. This is why it screws up everything to play guys early who should be getting a red shirt. And Thomas isn't the only one who lost out this way. We have been so thin at some positions that both RR and Hoke put several guys on the field before they were ready, and they were shell shocked, and kind of ruined.
You can blame Hoke for plenty of things, but recruiting isn't one of them. Harbaugh is coming in with a fair amount of guys here who should be able to perform well, provided that these players can be "developed." In hindsight, the small recruiting class this year is an awesome thing: Harbaugh doesn't get much time, but can you imagine the pain if we were trying to fill 25 - 28 spots on the roster? It would be much, much worse.
I half wonder if Thomas should take a redshirt this year. It isn't a good idea, but the whole thing is just crummy.
One other thing. WHITHER. Not WITHER. Spell check is not your friend sometimes. This is one of them.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||She's the Brain in the family?||
The Brain cooks for the Brian? Pretty cool.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||No, that was SAM||
I can't remember offhand what fraternity it was, but I'm sure that wasn't SAM. In a way, I guess it would have made sense, because the building next door is the Chabad house. My understanding is that Chabad is a kind of Jewish community center serving the Jewish community with different classes, lectures, workshops, etc.
Anyway, that was a nice fraternity house, and it was too bad it burned down.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||I thought you were exaggerating||
I thought you were exaggerating. I thought there was no way this could get to 250 responses. I didn't count on Peter Klima, and now, I think you may be right: 250 posts. Wow.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||I'm laughing||
I don't know why, but your post made me laugh out loud. Perhaps having twin 13 year olds leads to me often feeling "somehow compelled to convince them they're being idiots." Imhe, this rarely works. But I often get sucked in as well, so I feel your pain.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah, not an endorsement of the Freep||
Yeah, not an endorsement of the Freep. Having said that, give credit where credit is due. At least something that should be basic and assumed is done correctly. I smirk internally every time I see typos, spelling errors, etc. in MSM. We all do it, but it just is embarassing. Maybe the Freep got it right because this isn't part of their sports coverage? Who knows.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Thanks!||
So, as a former Sammie, what communication has been put out to alums? Have they explained this in more detail to you? What is the house planning to do with those directly involved? What punishment is on the table? What force do alums like yourself have in the matter? And was SDT just along for the ride (what I'd assume,) or were they actually involved too? I didn't realize until it was mentioned in one of the accounts that SDT was a sorority with "Jewish heritage," whatever that means. Is there specific damage control from SAM & SDT given their heritage?
|9 weeks 14 min ago||Real news on Greece & Greeks||
There is a paywalled article in yesterday's Chicago Tribune about Greece and the European Union. Apparently, they want to restructure the terms of their bailout, and stop living in austerity. They could be moving toward pulling out of the EU and the use of the Euro. Fascinating, and ultimately much more important than anything happening with fraternities and sororities.
|9 weeks 17 min ago||Thanks||
Thanks. +1 to you! I'll see what he said. I haven't been there in ages. Sometime in the Fall, I just stopped linking to Michigan Monday. It was too painful, and I basically dropped off the board altogether for several months.
|9 weeks 22 min ago||Well written and informative||
This was well written and informative. Thanks for your comments.
"I would argue that in a Fraternity, like a team, you are always representative of the name on the front moreso than the name on the back. We choose who we decide to initiate into our Fraternity, thus we have vouched for their character." This is a key statement, and it goes several levels deep.
The entire Greek system shouldn't be judged. I was in a fraternity myself. But the entire Greek system needs to censure, hold accountable, and potentially expel those who fail to abide by agreed upon standards of behavior.
|9 weeks 37 min ago||Fanning the flames?||
Fanning the flames? Hardly. I put up what happened, the link, and a short block quote. No editorializing on my part: pretty much, just the facts.
The reality is that this is wrong, it is off season, and it is of interest. What is so hard for you to get about that? If you're not interested, why do you continue to click on this post and put so many comments in the thread? You know, honestly, PeterKlima, your comments do more to fan the anti-Greek flames than anything else.
FTR, I'd much rather read a Hello post regarding Clark or Marshall or Weber or Pickard or Roquan Smith. But on the recruiting front, only so much is happening, and there isn't a lot of other hot news I see out there.
|9 weeks 57 min ago||Sammies website edited||
I don't know when, but the Sammie website at UofM has been changed. They took down all the pics and the "We are on a Roll!!" stuff, and have a somewhat contrite message:
We are embarrassed and ashamed of the behavior of a few of our chapter members at Treetops Resort over the weekend of January 17-18. This behavior is inconsistent with the values, policies, and practices of this organization. Our chapter accepts full responsibility for this incident and we will be working with the management of the resort to pay for all damages and cleaning costs. We will work within our own organization and with university officials to hold those who are responsible accountable for their actions.
This is consistent with the statement from their prior (president?) Joshua Kaplan. The question I have is, what constitutes "a few?" That is more than one, more than a couple, but about how many? If there were 60 guys, and 60 girls, "a few" would seem to be 3, maybe 4 or 5 guys. Out of 120 people there. Which raises even more questions. What was up with the other 110 - 115 people who weren't destroying stuff? Or, does "a few" mean more like 10, 20 guys? Too many questions yet unanswered.
If I was in any of those fraternities or sororities, I would really be happy if I stayed behind in AA or went home for the weekend.
|9 weeks 1 hour ago||Breathless?||
Breathless? Not hardly, Spicy Wiener. Just happened to notice it in the paper, and knew it was of interest to some on the board and those who follow the University from afar. Properly noted as "OT." I will say, I was curious what would happen. And if you read the article, it sounds like UofM isn't done investigating, and there may well be more repercussions down the road.
Just curious: are you a current student, and are you in a fraternity? It seems that some in that category want to downplay the incident. Kind of in denial. It is indeed a black eye for the university, and is just flat out wrong.
I was in a fraternity myself at UofM. There was plenty of drunkenness, drugs, and debauchery. I was involved in stupid fraternity pranks, some involving one of the suspended houses, and cattle crossing signs. Sometimes it was a wretched hive of scum and villainy. But man, we never did that kind of damage and had that kind of disrespect for a ski resort or hotel. I'm embarassed and angry.
The other thing: with the suspension of the sororities, this tells me that they are going to come down not just on those who are actively destroying property. They're also coming after those who are complicit by their silence, i.e., simply ALLOWING destruction to happen.
|9 weeks 1 hour ago||Freep gets it right this time||
The Freep actually got it right this time. In their article, it reads:
Sigma Delta Tau sorority, Pi Kappa Alpha fraternity, Alpha Phi sorority, Chi Psi fraternity and the Delta Gamma sorority were also suspended after being accused of causing more than $50,000 in damage at the Treetops Resort and condominiums at Boyne Highlands near Harbor Springs.
Not saying the Freep is good or exonerated, just noting that they got it right.
|9 weeks 2 hours ago||This whole thing drives me crazy||
There are so many fans at this website who:
In the US News and World Report College rankings, the following schools are ranked higher than Michigan:
In the above list, there are 4 schools bolded who might possibly have a good football team. Of those four, three are in California. And two in Southern Cal.
If you are willing to leave home, want a good school academically, a good school in terms of football, and good weather, you'd be an absolute fool not to consider UCLA, USC, and Stanford.
Now, the pull of home is an important thing. Just ask Ty Isaac. This is part of why it is so critical for Michigan to recruit well in our footprint. If you look at a map, you can easily see the areas within a 4 hour drive. Chicago, Pittsburg, Indianapolis, Cincinnati, Cleveland, all of Michigan are in that area. For a recruit further away than that, you are getting far for mom and dad to get to your games.
You really have to look at the four factors:
Right now, Michigan can sell on academic programs, and on the POSSIBILITY and past history of football success. If we're trying to gain a recruit from out of our footprint, far from home, why wouldn't you rank schools in terms of football, academics, and amenities?
|9 weeks 15 hours ago||Love the fact he made a decision||
I love the fact Reagan Williams made a decision. This frees him up, and frees the coaches from wasting time, etc. And Stanford is a great place to go. If I was choosing between Stanford and Michigan myself, I could easily have gone to Stanford.
I appreciate it when guys lay out the pros and the cons and figure out where they feel most comfortable and they make a decision, instead of stringing everyone along.
|9 weeks 16 hours ago||Silent Commitment||
Iman Marshall makes a silent commitment to play at Michigan.
|9 weeks 22 hours ago||Interesting post||
You list fame, riches, attractiveness, attention from women, best at what they do, and pop culture relevance. Fascinating, yet very flawed list.
Fame comes and goes, and as others have noted, sometimes, fame can be more of a bother than it is worth. It is a good thing to be recognized, but for what? Kim Kardashian has fame, but not a life I'd want.
Riches are an interesting thing. It is said that the multimillionaire John Rockefeller was once asked, "How much money is enough?" He answered, "Just a little bit more." In other words, "I will never have enough." I'd say that it is good to have enough money so you don't worry about it, but not so much that you worry about it all the time.
Attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder, and is fleeting. (I'm assuming you are talking about physical attractiveness.) With plastic surgery and endless body building and makeup and hair care and clothing, anyone, in a sense, can be physically attractive. But it becomes a full time job to maintain this.
I can understand attention from women, but really, if you have attention from one woman, the right woman, that is enough.
Best at what you do is also interesting. I would tweak this slightly, to say, do the best that you can. It isn't just how much you do. It is how much you do with what you've got. Not everyone has the same gifts, but the person who excels with what they have is worthy of praise.
Pop culture relevance is maybe the least important on your list. Pop culture changes so quickly, and is so mercurial, that it is close to pointless to care about this.
I love the four virtues scene in Gladiator, and would embed it if I knew how. Commodus says to Marcus Arelius, "You wrote to me once, listing the four chief virtues: wisdom, justice, fortitude and temperance. As I read the list, I knew I had none of them. But I have other virtues, father. Ambition. That can be a virtue when it drives us to excel. Resourcefulness, courage, perhaps not on the battlefield, but . . . there are many forms of courage. Devotion, to my family and to you. But none of my virtues was on your list."
I'd encourage you to think about your list, and what the "best male life" actually would be.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||I would never wear them||
I would never wear them. Not in the house, not on the farm, not in the bedroom, not at the beach, not in public or private. The thought is very unappealing.
I suppose I'd think about it if that was the condition for raising a chunk of money for a food pantry building, and for a group we're supporting in Kenya. But even then, I wouldn't be thrilled.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Sour grapes?||
Sour grapes, with Jabari's injury, GoBlueGB? It isn't cool to ever wish an injury on anyone, or to rejoice when someone goes down. That's just being a jerk. These guys lay their bodies on the line, and it is crummy when something like this happens.
I'm not a believer in Karma. But you better hope that Jabari gets healthy and stays healthy. As a Bulls fan, I've seen how seasons are easily ruined by injuries.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||What a bummer||
I hate to see injuries to anyone, any time. This really sucks for the Pistons.
As a Bulls fan, it has been very tough with D Rose's injuries, and Joakim Noah. (and they're not the only ones.) Pacing is so important, and staying healthy is critical. Sorry for Pistons and Pistons fans.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Pair of boobies||
Pair of happy boobies
|9 weeks 2 days ago||You know something's really bad . . .||
You know something's really bad . . . when even models can't make it look good.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Nope||
I really can't think of any circumstance where I would where those. A man's gotta know his limitations.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Wow||
I LOVED that film. I got a catch in my throat at the very end, seeing how proud Jack was that Jim & John chose to go into their father's profession, being a coach. Thanks much for sharing this link.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||I wouldn't know||
I wouldn't know about most of California. I didn't wear stuff like this when I lived in LA, although I may have seen some similar styles when walking on the beach with my wife in Santa Monica. Still, I can't even imagine someone in Chicago or Detroit coming up with this, and selling it. Leave it to California.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||I'd have to look up markets||
I'd have to look up markets and Nielsen share on TV. I was kind of wondering about the Celtics and Sixers. Pistons, not so much. But I'd like to see a map of who watches basketball, and how much, in different markets. The Celtics and Sixers (along with Knicks, Lakers, and Bulls) are all "marquee" teams in terms of history. The Sonics and Suns have been around a long time too, although they don't seem to have the same history of being "marquee" teams.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Why I love Khakis||
So, true confessions. I wear khaki trousers almost every day. Some of them are cheap, some more expensive. Some are from Walmart or Kohls. Some are wool from Land's End. They are not "fashionable." But I don't care. They match with almost everything. I can wear them with a buttondown shirt, or a t-shirt (like Jim Harbaugh.) I can wear them with a sweater, or a blue blazer. If they make any statement, it is that they are utilitarian and don't draw attention. I wore khakis to class when I was a Michigan student.
In contrast, here is a fashion statement:
These are what pass as fashion statements for men. In 2015. In California. Lord, what will they come up with next? LINK: http://www.boredpanda.com/crochet-shorts-schuyler-ellers-lord-von-schmitt/?image_id=crochet-shorts-schuyler-ellers-lord-von-schmitt-1.jpg
I don't think you could pay me enough to ever wear something like this. I have never been hip, or a "hipster," not at any age, and certainly not now. For the love of humanity, WHY?!?! It is this kind of thing that makes me love Michigan, and traditional uniforms, and Jim Harbaugh, and khakis.
p.s. As much as these do not match my sartorial sense, I will say this. I would GLADLY pay $100 for the next HTTV if it included an autographed photo of Brian and Seth sporting maize and blue crochet shorts or trousers similar to these.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Korver is doing well||
Korver is doing well, doing very well. If he keeps this up, it will be a season for the record books.
Regarding all the big market NBA teams tanking, not so fast, my friend. It is true that the Nets, Knicks, and Lakers are all bad. Very bad. But the Rockets, Clippers, and Bulls are all having decent seasons. That's a team in each of the number 2, 3, & 4 population centers.
The Bulls, in particular, may really be rounding into form. If Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah stay healthy, and Paul Gasol and Jimmy Butler continue to play at the level they've been playing at, they could go deep into the post-season. And that's a team that will generate interest.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Funny||
SMH. You have to avoid the Freep for the zealots on this board.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Not drinking anything so exotic||
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Are you sure this is what you want?||
What you are saying is, "Be deceitful. Lie about who you are. Don't take responsibility."
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Here's the thing||
WolvinLA2, here's the thing. When Sigma Alpha Mu's "prior" (chapter president?) Joshua Kaplan is quoted saying this was an isolated incident, very few were involved, maybe a couple guys, you have two possibilities, neither of which are good:
One other observation. Thus far, I have heard literally nothing from anyone in a sorority, not Sigma Delta Tau, Delta Gamma, or Alpha Phi. Back in the day, it would be more typical for guys in a fraternity to do stupid destructive stuff. Is that still the case, or does the equality of the sexes mean that the sorority sisters were just as destructive as the fraternity brothers?
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Will SAM ID them?||
UMichClass2017, do you think that SAM will identify the major culprits? Same thing for Chi Psi and Pike? Presuming these individuals are adults, should they be identified publicly and do the perp walk?
I can believe that the vast majority of fraternity and sorority members who were present at Treetop and Boyne were not actively nor maliciously destroying property. However, if their fraternity brothers and sorority sisters are not willing to identify them, (or better yet, if they are not willing to identify themselves,) then I am less willing to see forgiveness offered to their houses.
If those students responsible are expelled, or removed from school for at least a year or two, and sued for damages trebled, I could see suspensions for the fraternities and sororities being lifted quickly. If, on the other hand, through some perverse sense of "brotherhood" no one takes responsibility, I could see the banhammer coming down on the entire house.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||It'd be interesting to hear from fraternity members||
It'd be interesting to hear from fraternity members from Sigma Alpha Mu, Pi Kappa Alpha and Chi Psi who are also here at MGoBlog. I'm sure there are some who are on this blog who are in one of those houses. I wonder if any are willing to share what they were thinking, and what they think the repercussions and sanctions should be in light of what happened.
I just went to the Sammie site for UofM (LINK: http://www.michigansammy.com/) and there still is nothing posted whatsoever about the weekend.
Particularly damning is a statement from Tree Tops commenting on the public apology from Chapter President Joshua Kaplan. Barry Owens, general manager of the resort, was quoted saying this about Kaplan:
“I thought it was a joke because it was the president who was quoted and he was actually one of the ringleaders here,” Owens said. “He was one of the people who assured us they would behave themselves.”
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Nope||
No, I didn't expect those two losses. I did think there would be some rough sledding, especially with the loss of the bigs. If McGary and Horton were here, the season would have been completely different. But there's no use in crying over spilled milk. All I would say is that I don't expect a lot from the team going forward, other than that they will win more games than anyone expects.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Playing with house money!||
This whole year, with Stauskas, McGary, Robinson, Morgan, and Horford gone, and Caris out, we're playing with house money. They've already done more than I expected. Every win they get from this point forward is gravy! It is all good, and you can just shake your head and smile. House money indeed. Edit: and should Walton's toe actually heal significantly, and Doyle continue to get better, I think we'll win a couple of games we're not expected to win.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Interesting post||
I will say, I found the post interesting. I didn't mind clicking and reading . . . thanks for posting. I also was interested to get both sides of the story, so I went to their website to see if Sigma Alpha Mu had any response. Nothing so far, although this doesn't seem to fit well with the mission statement at their national website:
Sigma Alpha Mu's Mission is to foster the development of collegiate men and our alumni by instilling strong fraternal values, offering social and service opportunities, encouraging academic excellence and teaching leadership skills. We will continue to attract members of all beliefs who appreciate our great heritage as a fraternity of Jewish men.
Looking forward to the spin on how this kind of weekend instills "strong fraternal values," or offers "service opportunities," or teaches "leadership skills." I suppose how they respond to this will give the opportunity for these kinds of goals to happen.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Can you imagine Bo doing that?||
Can you imagine Bo hauling around all the freshmen on the football team? Harbaugh in particular? That would have been a sight to behold!!
Here's a quote from another mgoblog post on Harbaugh's on behavior:
During his first two years in South Quad Harbaugh was directly involved in several assaults on fellow students. . . One of the most egregious examples of Harbaugh's lack of character is evidenced by his regular practice of throwing full containers of Dannon yogurt taken from the training table in the dorm's cafeteria out an open window at the end of the hall on the upper most floor of the building. When challenged by one of the students as to why he was tossing yogurt out of the window of the 8th floor of the building - only to have these containers explode on dented cars parked below - Gentleman Jim responded "$%#@ you, I am practicing my throwing arm".
In a more illuminating piece of journalism the SF Chronicle wrote "Harbaugh was arrested in November 2005 in Encinitas for driving under the influence after being pulled over for running a stop sign. At the time, Harbaugh said he "upset with myself and embarrassed for everyone around me." Harbaugh, who refused to take a field sobriety test, pled guilty to a lesser charge of reckless driving.
Maybe Harbaugh has decided he doesn't want his players to do the same things he did himself?
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Been thinking about Drevno and Staff||
I've been thinking about Drevno, and about all the staff, as I wonder who is most important. I've come to the conclusion that this is (mostly) the wrong question, inevitably leading to the wrong answer.
The right answer is "nobody." That is to say, nobody is the most important. The team itself is the most important. "The team, the team, the team" is the answer. There's a little more nuance than that. Harbaugh is the most important. But he is the most important because of his focus on the team. He gets that the team is the most important, that everyone has a critical role to play.
You already see that in the coaching staff, in two ways. First, there is a lot of balance and excellence. I am thrilled with both Drevno and Durkin (and with Mattison, and Wheatley, and the rest.) But the second way goes deeper. I think having Baxter on special teams is huge. Having Jay is great, not just because of the tight ends, but because he apparently is great at scouting and film work. Having Tobert will help the strength and conditioning. Having his father on board, along with several retired coaches, is great.
I love football because it is such a team sport. Yes, there are superstars, and there are standouts, both on the team and among the coaches. But everyone has to contribute. This is what I see Harbaugh bringing to the table, and I believe it has the potential to make a huge difference.
|10 weeks 2 hours ago||Would consider Michigan||
But there are too many other things to consider.
It is great that you are such a loyal Michigan fan. But realistically, there are all kinds of good reasons for people to consider other schools.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||Clark a valuable commodity||
Having big, fast tight ends has really changed the game. They create mismatches all over the field. I think someone like Clark is particularly helpful against spread style teams. The size difference more than negates the speed disparity, particularly if you have a QB who is good at distributing the ball to a number of receivers.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||Love this||
My dad is retired. It is great to be with him and my son at the same time. He is in good health, but I really appreciate the time we have as he pushes towards 90.
I can easily imagine Jackie kicking Jack out of the house "Get out of here . . . quit being underfoot. You know you want to go over with Jim." Things come full circle. Jim would hang around as a boy, now dad hangs around as a grandpa.
Also, guys like Jack (and for that matter, Carr and Moeller and Hanlon) can have an awful lot of wisdom. They don't have the stamina and the energy of Drevno, let alone Durkin. But it makes all the sense in the world to get their two cents consider.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Tough but understandable break||
Manning was a good guy, a good player at Michigan, and a good recruiter. The problem is that there was no way he was going to stay in place of either Durkin (DC & LB) or Mattison (former DC, DL coach now, and LB coach in the past.) Both Durkin and Mattison are excellent recruiters. Both have experience with the line, and with linebackers. Manning just wasn't needed.
I do believe that his coaching position at Washington State (outside LB) is a more natural fit for Manning. I also believe his time with coaching CB will help Manning in the future, but that he needs more seasoning. To be honest, upon reflection, I'm not sure he should have been at Michigan this last season. That's water over the dam, but I do think Manning has a bright future.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Hate the term . . .||
Hate the term, but love the concept.
Like points on this board, like the fight club, like hazing on a sports team, you just don't talk about. Just don't do it.
Honestly, I'm crabby because I thought this would be a thread about the "new Michigan man," i.e., the first recruit to commit under Harbaugh. Imagine my dismay to find out it was yet another thread about this kind of crap.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Involves a sports personality||
If the perp was not a well known announcer/commentator with ESPN, your point would stand. As it is, because he is well known in sports, and because we are past the football season, the mods are more generous in terms of allowing OT posts to go up.
FYI, if you go to the tab labeled "MGoBoard," and click oin the "FAQ" subtab, you will find comments on appropriate posts. Here is a cut & paste from Brian:
What's the offtopic policy?
In the offseason, offtopic posts are tolerated. During football season they are discouraged and may be subject to removal depending on how alert the moderators are. What counts as on- and off- topic?
We will let pro sports topics slide even during football season but "everything else" posts are likely to get the axe.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Partially agree||
I suspect that legalization and regulation would help a little bit. The demand will always be there. But I think it is less the oldest profession and more a dangerous form of exploitation.
Here's a few fun facts you might not know.
I've never solicited a prostitute. I was clueless enough while a student at Michigan that I didn't realize when a prostitute was soliciting/seeking me. But I am troubled by what goes on in terms of exploitation, and believe that we too often turn a blind eye to those on the margins of society who are victims.
I completely agree with you that we should not be shocked, and that this will never change. Demand from men will always drive the trade. Where I completely disagree with you is the implication tha a majority "like doing it." I'd agree that a significant number "choose" this profession, but only because they don't see another way to earn as much money quickly. And once they come under the control of a pimp, that sadly changes radically too.
I feel no shock, no indignation, and no surprise at what happened with Greg Anthony. I do feel compassion and sympathy for the girls and women who are driven to this trade because they see no other options.
For a classy film depiction of challenges facing women over time, just watch Les Miserables and Anne Hathaway. Those with power and position and no moral scruples are often tempted to exploit those who are desperate.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||water with a couple aspirin||
water with a couple aspirin. And back to bed.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||It's complicated||
So, there's no need for morals police. This is proven by the fact that there is no crime when two (or more) consenting adults make adult decisions. It may be a moral or immoral decision, but it is their decision, and no one else needs to be involved.
The problem, as noted by another poster above, is with the sex trade itself. The number of women who are largely slaves, physically and violently abused, denigrated, and the like is terrible. When minors are involved, it is even worse. Maybe the industry should be legalized, to eliminate the degradation of women and children by traffickers.
Perhaps I am cynical enough to believe that legalization would not eliminate the problem. Or maybe this is because I live in the Chicago area, where corruption among politicians is endemic. Money often corrupts.
I think (but don't know) that it is legal in Thailand and the Philippines. The legality (or near legality) doesn't help tens of thousands of girls (and boys) who are sold into a sordid life of slavery, often by parents, to slake the sordid thirsts of adults from elsewhere.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||You've missed the biggest advantage||
You've missed the biggest advantage of this technology: now you can stay plugged in to MGoBlog and Michigan sports ALL the time. No more putting away devices because you're "driving." Think of the productivity! You won't have to miss a single post or thread because you're driving ever again! What could be better? And if your device will ring or beep to wake you up when a new post is put up, you can even take it to bed with you. What a magnificent obsession.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Only an hour away||
Since it is only an hour away, I'm sure they will do just that. You know, they have the medivac helos . . . maybe we should have a Michigan helicopter so Harbaugh can be even more energetic, enthusiastic, and cover more territory! Ok, a bad idea, but I'm sure he'll hurry back nonetheless.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||agree strongly on UCLA turnaround||
Agree strongly on UCLA turnaround being encouraging. I do believe that Michigan is not terribly far off from being competitive.
Your comment on UCLA brings something else to mind. Over the years, a number of major teams have had significant downturns. USC, UCLA, Washington, Texas, A & M, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Miami, Notre Dame, and others have all been in the upper echelons of college football, and have all been down, sometimes for a significant period.
As much as I absolutely hate the last seven years, I wonder if it wasn't helpful in the long run. Seven years of famine, seven years wandering in the wilderness, make me more appreciative as a fan, and make the team much more hungry. We have often used the phrase "buckle up" when a recruit was about to commit. I think we'll be buckling up a lot: not for recruits, but for Mr. Harbaugh's wild ride.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Love it||
And I suppose hampsters are used by all the Michigan Hipster crowd.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Yeah, but sometimes people say things they regret.||
Yeah, but sometimes people say things they regret. I've certainly written things, said things, and done things that upon reflection, were better left unwritten, unsaid, and undone.
Exhibit A: Harbaugh regrets the comments he made about Michigan academics.
Exhibit B: And regarding those comments, Brian put up a very long and detailed piece entitled Destroy Harbaugh. (LINK: http://mgoblog.com/content/destroy-harbaugh#comments)
My guess is that Brian would retract some of his own statements about Harbaugh. Among other statements in reference to what Harbaugh said on Michigan academics, Brian wrote
WD, you're a young man. But the older you get, the more you realize that there are indeed things you say and do that you wish you could erase. Unfortunately, life doesn't work that way.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Seared in my memory||
I never knew what an erotic interpretive dance was. Carlos and MGoBrewMom have ruined me for life . . . the horror, the horror, I'll never be able to watch a gif of Kate Upton or Scarlett Johansson the same way again.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||What's a hampster?||
Must be something exotic I've never heard about before in my limited experience.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Great article||
I think this is exactly right. So far, Michigan hasn't proven anything, Michigan hasn't been anything, for some time now. But if anyone is going to move us in the right direction, it is Harbaugh.
I look forward to the day when the Big 10 is the place football players want to go . . . when Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State, Penn State, and Wisconsin are all competitive and on the top of the mountain. No half measures will do. We need the best facilities, best coaches, and best players out there, if we want to truly be the "leaders and the best."
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Not good enough?||
As mentioned above in this thread, even Urban Meyer has decreased the percentage of Ohio State players coming from the state of Ohio. We could certainly lock up the state of Michigan, but if that means bringing lesser players on to our team, we will never compete on a national level. Of course, coaches make mistakes in evaluating talent. But I suspect that if he was that good, he would have been offered by better schools.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||I think the term is "pantsed"||
I think the term is "pantsed." I have never heard of depansing.
FTR, I kind of agree with you. But with 10 posts of sarcasm, I figured a bit of board education wouldn't hurt. With a side serving of snark.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Various things you can do||
There's no end of things you can do.
There are a number of things you shouldn't do.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Sigh . . . learn how to use the blog||
To the OP, Steve Breaston:
I could pile on and ridicule you with snark. Instead, let me help you avoid doing this again.
Any time I put up a new post, I ask, has then been posted previously? How would I search for this? If a prior post is named well, it will usually come up. And it will spare you from the ridicule of those who live on the board 24/7, and who know all the minutiae of Michigan trivia.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||In addition to Jackson||
In addition to Jackson, Tolbert is black. He isn't young, but he is black. That would be at least three blacks on the staff: Wheatley, Tolbert, and Jackson.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||It depends . . .||
It depends . . . is Uncle Sam screwing my daughter or not? She goes back and forth on that herself! Sometimes she feels screwed, sometimes not. We'll wait and see on that.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Love Beilein||
I love Beilein. I love the kind of team he fields. I hope he stays here well into his 70's. And I hope some of the blue chip guys out there (like 2015 5 star prospect Jalen Brown and 2016 5 star prospects Josh Langford and Tyus Battle) choose to come to Michigan instead of going to Kentucky, Duke, or Kansas.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||I'm ok with rankings||
I kind of like being ranked 7th, for several reasons.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Internet Meme||
This is an Internet meme.
Like the MSU Graffiti.
Know your mgoblog memes.
|11 weeks 1 hour ago||Just sad||
This is just sad, although it undoubtedly describes the way the world is. Something has changed, when you have to be incredibly talented, well off, or rack up substantial loans just to afford an in-state education. Let alone out of state. In the late 70's, you could still pretty much cover most of your tuition, board, and fees with summer jobs and work study programs. Those days are long gone. My own daughter joined the Navy as a way to both get education benefits and avoid racking up student loans.
I really don't understand the mentality of someone who wants to be with someone 20 or 30 or more years younger. I mean, sure, there is something attractive about it physically, but in other ways, it just seems sad.
|11 weeks 14 hours ago||I appreciated your coverage, Brian||
As you said, hopefully you'll never have to go through this again. Following 3 football head coach searches just isn't fun to me anymore.
|11 weeks 20 hours ago||Want to follow this in light of "reverse engineering"||
I really want to follow recruiting in light of the excellent reverse engineering diary. In particular, if you click on the above diary on this, you will see the following listed as urgent needs:
Given our current six commits, there is room for another 9 - 10 more in the 2015. I personally have continued to be concerned about the OL, given what happened under RR. Here are some questions.
|11 weeks 21 hours ago||I'm sure you're right||
I'm sure you're right. Material benefits, in particular, obviously can't be extended to others beyond junior. Having said that, I would assume there is a little wiggle room in terms of interaction and discussions between father and son.
But I also am pretty sure that the rules will be followed by Harbaugh and the coaching staff. And typically, coaches I've known don't cut their own kids any slack or give them preferential treatment. Would think the same would be true here.
|11 weeks 22 hours ago||You are missing a couple things||
You are missing a couple things.
Some of these things you'll understand more when you have adult children and also grandchildren. If you have a good relationship, it is nice to be able to spend time together, and not be in a different part of the country.
|11 weeks 22 hours ago||Huge for Michigan||
This is just huge for Michigan. Job titles are there for a reason, and the buck has to stop somewhere. Having said that, I think that Mattison is a great elder statesman, and he will be able to contribute significant helpful perspective on the linebackers and on how the defense works together as a whole. If he is having fun, he could potentially continue for a long time at Michigan. The players seem to relate very well to him.
Reading the presser raises a question that isn't thread worthy, but that I have wondered about. I've been curious about what Jack Harbaugh will be doing with Jim as the head coach. Will Jack relocate to the Ann Arbor area? Will he occasionally give his two cents worth to Jim? It seems that he isn't much of one for golf or fishing or just laying around, and I could see him enjoying spending a bit of time around the program.
|11 weeks 22 hours ago||I've often thought the same thing||
I've often thought the same thing. We spin things to fit our picture of what we want the world to be. The reality, probably, is slightly more complicated. It really depends on whether someone or some situation is viewed very positively, very negatively, or inbetween.
With Jim Harbaugh, he currently can walk on water, will cure all ills, will bring in the best coaching staff, gets along fine with his players and is loved by them, will be at Michigan for life, etc., etc., etc.
It wasn't that long ago that Hoke "pooped gold excellence." We see how that turned. Basically, when someone wins, all is forgiven and overlooked. When someone loses, nothing they do is right.
It also partially is affected by the "hive mind." Right now, no one is going to crab about anything Coach Harbaugh does, at least here. To do so is to seek negbangs. There undoubtedly are people with reservations about Harbaugh. But they will lay low . . . until such time as he has multiple losses or miscues.