I thought that myself when I read that article that talked about a Data Scientist(tm)
|1 hour 9 min ago||Question on Coach/Player interaction right now||
So, I'm curious about coach / player interaction right now. Are there any regulations on what the players can start to do as they adjust to the new staff? I can imagine that they would want to get going on strength training immediately. But I can also imagine them wanting to learn the playbook, and to do everything they can to get ready for Spring practice. Especially as some of the schemes and plays change, it would make sense that the current team would want to do everything they can to come up to speed.
A related but different question: how and when do players decide to leave the team? Obviously, Bosch had some kind of meeting or restrictions placed by Harbaugh, and decided to move on. Not sure what was up with Ferns. And with Hayes, I can understand the decision. But there was some scuttlebutt about several players who were expected to move on. Is there a time frame for that to be announced? This has a significant impact on how many recruits can be signed next week.
|1 hour 57 min ago||Would like a Wolverine Video||
So, I would love to see a stylized wolverine in a promo video for Michigan athletics. I've thought of this for years when seeing the Alaska Nanooks 2010 College Hockey video. It is gloriously cheesy. The trick is to pull off something that is over the top but not embarassing. Here's what they did:
|2 hours 8 min ago||You must really care for the retro one||
You must really care for the retro one, with making a triplicate post.
|3 hours 53 min ago||Thanks for posting||
Thanks for posting. It sounds like the Sammies are really trying to do the right thing. It also sounds like the fraternity in general has done a great job, between their academic success, their philanthropy, and their involvement in the Greek community.
My guess is that they are going to do their best to identify those responsible for the vandalism, and hold them accountable. Perhaps they will be suspended from attending Michigan for a year or two or three, after which they can return and complete their education.
There was a fascinating article in the Washington Post about a student at Cornell. Keri Blakinger was apprehended with 50k in heroin in 2010. She was suspended indefinitely, banned from campus, and did jail time. Eventually, she reapplied, was readmitted, and was able to complete her education at Cornell. In her case, she was punished and was given a second chance. That seems like it could be appropriate for some here too.
|4 hours 11 min ago||Been pers. involved in admin of discipline in ed setting||
I have been personally involved in the administration of disciplinary actrion in a higher educational setting elsewhere. Sometimes, a student can be suspended from their school for a period of time. This theoretically gives them the opportunity to reflect on their poor choices. They can choose to never return, and to transfer elsewhere (assuming they can find a school that will accept them.) They also can choose to reapply and to come back to finish their degree several years later. While a few years seems like an eternity to an 18 year old, it really doesn't matter that much in the big picture. And it is the needed wakeup call to what life is really like for many.
There was a fascinating and informative article in last week's Washington Post. Keri Blakinger was a former competitive figure skater on a national level who attended Cornell. Cornell suspended Blakinger indefinitely after she was apprehended with more than 50k of heroin. In her case, she served prison time and worked on the outside before reapplying to Cornell. She graduated from Cornell last month. This was a 4 year delay, but she was fortunate to get a second chance. In other words, even with difficult punishment, you can move on in a healthy way. The shame is that we live at a time and in a culture when there are too few painful circumstances.
I myself was kicked out of UofM for poor grades, largely self-inflicted. It was painful, and hard work, but I eventually was able to continue at UofM and graduated, albeit delayed a few years. I wouldn't trade that part of my education for anything.
|4 hours 29 min ago||Ageusia||
You taught me a new word today. Thank you!
|14 hours 38 min ago||Curious who the master chief and officers are||
What are Navy guys doing in dress uniform at the game? And whoever they are, they're high enough up to be somebody . . . there are fewer master chiefs than captains in the Navy . . . less than 1% of the enlisted Navy makes it that far.
(can't help but be curious, with my daughter in the Navy and currently underway.)
|14 hours 48 min ago||Maybe we should quit playing the blame game||
Maybe we should quit playing the blame game and move forward. I find it interesting that Harbaugh praised Hoke, and didn't work to throw DB under the bus either. Those of you who have been involved in hiring and firing and changing direction know that while it's important to learn from the past, it also doesn't usually do much good to bitterly complain and whine about past mistakes. You learn and you move on.
|18 hours 40 min ago||Dymonte Thomas||
I feel crummy for Thomas. This is why it screws up everything to play guys early who should be getting a red shirt. And Thomas isn't the only one who lost out this way. We have been so thin at some positions that both RR and Hoke put several guys on the field before they were ready, and they were shell shocked, and kind of ruined.
You can blame Hoke for plenty of things, but recruiting isn't one of them. Harbaugh is coming in with a fair amount of guys here who should be able to perform well, provided that these players can be "developed." In hindsight, the small recruiting class this year is an awesome thing: Harbaugh doesn't get much time, but can you imagine the pain if we were trying to fill 25 - 28 spots on the roster? It would be much, much worse.
I half wonder if Thomas should take a redshirt this year. It isn't a good idea, but the whole thing is just crummy.
One other thing. WHITHER. Not WITHER. Spell check is not your friend sometimes. This is one of them.
|19 hours 19 min ago||She's the Brain in the family?||
The Brain cooks for the Brian? Pretty cool.
|19 hours 32 min ago||No, that was SAM||
I can't remember offhand what fraternity it was, but I'm sure that wasn't SAM. In a way, I guess it would have made sense, because the building next door is the Chabad house. My understanding is that Chabad is a kind of Jewish community center serving the Jewish community with different classes, lectures, workshops, etc.
Anyway, that was a nice fraternity house, and it was too bad it burned down.
|21 hours 54 min ago||I thought you were exaggerating||
I thought you were exaggerating. I thought there was no way this could get to 250 responses. I didn't count on Peter Klima, and now, I think you may be right: 250 posts. Wow.
|22 hours 19 min ago||I'm laughing||
I don't know why, but your post made me laugh out loud. Perhaps having twin 13 year olds leads to me often feeling "somehow compelled to convince them they're being idiots." Imhe, this rarely works. But I often get sucked in as well, so I feel your pain.
|23 hours 21 min ago||Yeah, not an endorsement of the Freep||
Yeah, not an endorsement of the Freep. Having said that, give credit where credit is due. At least something that should be basic and assumed is done correctly. I smirk internally every time I see typos, spelling errors, etc. in MSM. We all do it, but it just is embarassing. Maybe the Freep got it right because this isn't part of their sports coverage? Who knows.
|1 day 1 hour ago||Thanks!||
So, as a former Sammie, what communication has been put out to alums? Have they explained this in more detail to you? What is the house planning to do with those directly involved? What punishment is on the table? What force do alums like yourself have in the matter? And was SDT just along for the ride (what I'd assume,) or were they actually involved too? I didn't realize until it was mentioned in one of the accounts that SDT was a sorority with "Jewish heritage," whatever that means. Is there specific damage control from SAM & SDT given their heritage?
|1 day 1 hour ago||Real news on Greece & Greeks||
There is a paywalled article in yesterday's Chicago Tribune about Greece and the European Union. Apparently, they want to restructure the terms of their bailout, and stop living in austerity. They could be moving toward pulling out of the EU and the use of the Euro. Fascinating, and ultimately much more important than anything happening with fraternities and sororities.
|1 day 1 hour ago||Thanks||
Thanks. +1 to you! I'll see what he said. I haven't been there in ages. Sometime in the Fall, I just stopped linking to Michigan Monday. It was too painful, and I basically dropped off the board altogether for several months.
|1 day 1 hour ago||Well written and informative||
This was well written and informative. Thanks for your comments.
"I would argue that in a Fraternity, like a team, you are always representative of the name on the front moreso than the name on the back. We choose who we decide to initiate into our Fraternity, thus we have vouched for their character." This is a key statement, and it goes several levels deep.
The entire Greek system shouldn't be judged. I was in a fraternity myself. But the entire Greek system needs to censure, hold accountable, and potentially expel those who fail to abide by agreed upon standards of behavior.
|1 day 2 hours ago||Fanning the flames?||
Fanning the flames? Hardly. I put up what happened, the link, and a short block quote. No editorializing on my part: pretty much, just the facts.
The reality is that this is wrong, it is off season, and it is of interest. What is so hard for you to get about that? If you're not interested, why do you continue to click on this post and put so many comments in the thread? You know, honestly, PeterKlima, your comments do more to fan the anti-Greek flames than anything else.
FTR, I'd much rather read a Hello post regarding Clark or Marshall or Weber or Pickard or Roquan Smith. But on the recruiting front, only so much is happening, and there isn't a lot of other hot news I see out there.
|1 day 2 hours ago||Sammies website edited||
I don't know when, but the Sammie website at UofM has been changed. They took down all the pics and the "We are on a Roll!!" stuff, and have a somewhat contrite message:
We are embarrassed and ashamed of the behavior of a few of our chapter members at Treetops Resort over the weekend of January 17-18. This behavior is inconsistent with the values, policies, and practices of this organization. Our chapter accepts full responsibility for this incident and we will be working with the management of the resort to pay for all damages and cleaning costs. We will work within our own organization and with university officials to hold those who are responsible accountable for their actions.
This is consistent with the statement from their prior (president?) Joshua Kaplan. The question I have is, what constitutes "a few?" That is more than one, more than a couple, but about how many? If there were 60 guys, and 60 girls, "a few" would seem to be 3, maybe 4 or 5 guys. Out of 120 people there. Which raises even more questions. What was up with the other 110 - 115 people who weren't destroying stuff? Or, does "a few" mean more like 10, 20 guys? Too many questions yet unanswered.
If I was in any of those fraternities or sororities, I would really be happy if I stayed behind in AA or went home for the weekend.
|1 day 2 hours ago||Breathless?||
Breathless? Not hardly, Spicy Wiener. Just happened to notice it in the paper, and knew it was of interest to some on the board and those who follow the University from afar. Properly noted as "OT." I will say, I was curious what would happen. And if you read the article, it sounds like UofM isn't done investigating, and there may well be more repercussions down the road.
Just curious: are you a current student, and are you in a fraternity? It seems that some in that category want to downplay the incident. Kind of in denial. It is indeed a black eye for the university, and is just flat out wrong.
I was in a fraternity myself at UofM. There was plenty of drunkenness, drugs, and debauchery. I was involved in stupid fraternity pranks, some involving one of the suspended houses, and cattle crossing signs. Sometimes it was a wretched hive of scum and villainy. But man, we never did that kind of damage and had that kind of disrespect for a ski resort or hotel. I'm embarassed and angry.
The other thing: with the suspension of the sororities, this tells me that they are going to come down not just on those who are actively destroying property. They're also coming after those who are complicit by their silence, i.e., simply ALLOWING destruction to happen.
|1 day 3 hours ago||Freep gets it right this time||
The Freep actually got it right this time. In their article, it reads:
Sigma Delta Tau sorority, Pi Kappa Alpha fraternity, Alpha Phi sorority, Chi Psi fraternity and the Delta Gamma sorority were also suspended after being accused of causing more than $50,000 in damage at the Treetops Resort and condominiums at Boyne Highlands near Harbor Springs.
Not saying the Freep is good or exonerated, just noting that they got it right.
|1 day 3 hours ago||This whole thing drives me crazy||
There are so many fans at this website who:
In the US News and World Report College rankings, the following schools are ranked higher than Michigan:
In the above list, there are 4 schools bolded who might possibly have a good football team. Of those four, three are in California. And two in Southern Cal.
If you are willing to leave home, want a good school academically, a good school in terms of football, and good weather, you'd be an absolute fool not to consider UCLA, USC, and Stanford.
Now, the pull of home is an important thing. Just ask Ty Isaac. This is part of why it is so critical for Michigan to recruit well in our footprint. If you look at a map, you can easily see the areas within a 4 hour drive. Chicago, Pittsburg, Indianapolis, Cincinnati, Cleveland, all of Michigan are in that area. For a recruit further away than that, you are getting far for mom and dad to get to your games.
You really have to look at the four factors:
Right now, Michigan can sell on academic programs, and on the POSSIBILITY and past history of football success. If we're trying to gain a recruit from out of our footprint, far from home, why wouldn't you rank schools in terms of football, academics, and amenities?
|1 day 17 hours ago||Love the fact he made a decision||
I love the fact Reagan Williams made a decision. This frees him up, and frees the coaches from wasting time, etc. And Stanford is a great place to go. If I was choosing between Stanford and Michigan myself, I could easily have gone to Stanford.
I appreciate it when guys lay out the pros and the cons and figure out where they feel most comfortable and they make a decision, instead of stringing everyone along.
|1 day 18 hours ago||Silent Commitment||
Iman Marshall makes a silent commitment to play at Michigan.
|2 days 13 min ago||Interesting post||
You list fame, riches, attractiveness, attention from women, best at what they do, and pop culture relevance. Fascinating, yet very flawed list.
Fame comes and goes, and as others have noted, sometimes, fame can be more of a bother than it is worth. It is a good thing to be recognized, but for what? Kim Kardashian has fame, but not a life I'd want.
Riches are an interesting thing. It is said that the multimillionaire John Rockefeller was once asked, "How much money is enough?" He answered, "Just a little bit more." In other words, "I will never have enough." I'd say that it is good to have enough money so you don't worry about it, but not so much that you worry about it all the time.
Attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder, and is fleeting. (I'm assuming you are talking about physical attractiveness.) With plastic surgery and endless body building and makeup and hair care and clothing, anyone, in a sense, can be physically attractive. But it becomes a full time job to maintain this.
I can understand attention from women, but really, if you have attention from one woman, the right woman, that is enough.
Best at what you do is also interesting. I would tweak this slightly, to say, do the best that you can. It isn't just how much you do. It is how much you do with what you've got. Not everyone has the same gifts, but the person who excels with what they have is worthy of praise.
Pop culture relevance is maybe the least important on your list. Pop culture changes so quickly, and is so mercurial, that it is close to pointless to care about this.
I love the four virtues scene in Gladiator, and would embed it if I knew how. Commodus says to Marcus Arelius, "You wrote to me once, listing the four chief virtues: wisdom, justice, fortitude and temperance. As I read the list, I knew I had none of them. But I have other virtues, father. Ambition. That can be a virtue when it drives us to excel. Resourcefulness, courage, perhaps not on the battlefield, but . . . there are many forms of courage. Devotion, to my family and to you. But none of my virtues was on your list."
I'd encourage you to think about your list, and what the "best male life" actually would be.
|3 days 12 hours ago||I would never wear them||
I would never wear them. Not in the house, not on the farm, not in the bedroom, not at the beach, not in public or private. The thought is very unappealing.
I suppose I'd think about it if that was the condition for raising a chunk of money for a food pantry building, and for a group we're supporting in Kenya. But even then, I wouldn't be thrilled.
|3 days 13 hours ago||Sour grapes?||
Sour grapes, with Jabari's injury, GoBlueGB? It isn't cool to ever wish an injury on anyone, or to rejoice when someone goes down. That's just being a jerk. These guys lay their bodies on the line, and it is crummy when something like this happens.
I'm not a believer in Karma. But you better hope that Jabari gets healthy and stays healthy. As a Bulls fan, I've seen how seasons are easily ruined by injuries.
|3 days 13 hours ago||What a bummer||
I hate to see injuries to anyone, any time. This really sucks for the Pistons.
As a Bulls fan, it has been very tough with D Rose's injuries, and Joakim Noah. (and they're not the only ones.) Pacing is so important, and staying healthy is critical. Sorry for Pistons and Pistons fans.
|3 days 14 hours ago||Pair of boobies||
Pair of happy boobies
|3 days 21 hours ago||You know something's really bad . . .||
You know something's really bad . . . when even models can't make it look good.
|3 days 21 hours ago||Nope||
I really can't think of any circumstance where I would where those. A man's gotta know his limitations.
|3 days 21 hours ago||Wow||
I LOVED that film. I got a catch in my throat at the very end, seeing how proud Jack was that Jim & John chose to go into their father's profession, being a coach. Thanks much for sharing this link.
|3 days 22 hours ago||I wouldn't know||
I wouldn't know about most of California. I didn't wear stuff like this when I lived in LA, although I may have seen some similar styles when walking on the beach with my wife in Santa Monica. Still, I can't even imagine someone in Chicago or Detroit coming up with this, and selling it. Leave it to California.
|3 days 22 hours ago||I'd have to look up markets||
I'd have to look up markets and Nielsen share on TV. I was kind of wondering about the Celtics and Sixers. Pistons, not so much. But I'd like to see a map of who watches basketball, and how much, in different markets. The Celtics and Sixers (along with Knicks, Lakers, and Bulls) are all "marquee" teams in terms of history. The Sonics and Suns have been around a long time too, although they don't seem to have the same history of being "marquee" teams.
|3 days 22 hours ago||Why I love Khakis||
So, true confessions. I wear khaki trousers almost every day. Some of them are cheap, some more expensive. Some are from Walmart or Kohls. Some are wool from Land's End. They are not "fashionable." But I don't care. They match with almost everything. I can wear them with a buttondown shirt, or a t-shirt (like Jim Harbaugh.) I can wear them with a sweater, or a blue blazer. If they make any statement, it is that they are utilitarian and don't draw attention. I wore khakis to class when I was a Michigan student.
In contrast, here is a fashion statement:
These are what pass as fashion statements for men. In 2015. In California. Lord, what will they come up with next? LINK: http://www.boredpanda.com/crochet-shorts-schuyler-ellers-lord-von-schmitt/?image_id=crochet-shorts-schuyler-ellers-lord-von-schmitt-1.jpg
I don't think you could pay me enough to ever wear something like this. I have never been hip, or a "hipster," not at any age, and certainly not now. For the love of humanity, WHY?!?! It is this kind of thing that makes me love Michigan, and traditional uniforms, and Jim Harbaugh, and khakis.
p.s. As much as these do not match my sartorial sense, I will say this. I would GLADLY pay $100 for the next HTTV if it included an autographed photo of Brian and Seth sporting maize and blue crochet shorts or trousers similar to these.
|4 days 2 hours ago||Korver is doing well||
Korver is doing well, doing very well. If he keeps this up, it will be a season for the record books.
Regarding all the big market NBA teams tanking, not so fast, my friend. It is true that the Nets, Knicks, and Lakers are all bad. Very bad. But the Rockets, Clippers, and Bulls are all having decent seasons. That's a team in each of the number 2, 3, & 4 population centers.
The Bulls, in particular, may really be rounding into form. If Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah stay healthy, and Paul Gasol and Jimmy Butler continue to play at the level they've been playing at, they could go deep into the post-season. And that's a team that will generate interest.
|4 days 20 hours ago||Funny||
SMH. You have to avoid the Freep for the zealots on this board.
|4 days 20 hours ago||Not drinking anything so exotic||
|4 days 21 hours ago||Are you sure this is what you want?||
What you are saying is, "Be deceitful. Lie about who you are. Don't take responsibility."
|5 days 31 min ago||Here's the thing||
WolvinLA2, here's the thing. When Sigma Alpha Mu's "prior" (chapter president?) Joshua Kaplan is quoted saying this was an isolated incident, very few were involved, maybe a couple guys, you have two possibilities, neither of which are good:
One other observation. Thus far, I have heard literally nothing from anyone in a sorority, not Sigma Delta Tau, Delta Gamma, or Alpha Phi. Back in the day, it would be more typical for guys in a fraternity to do stupid destructive stuff. Is that still the case, or does the equality of the sexes mean that the sorority sisters were just as destructive as the fraternity brothers?
|5 days 12 hours ago||Will SAM ID them?||
UMichClass2017, do you think that SAM will identify the major culprits? Same thing for Chi Psi and Pike? Presuming these individuals are adults, should they be identified publicly and do the perp walk?
I can believe that the vast majority of fraternity and sorority members who were present at Treetop and Boyne were not actively nor maliciously destroying property. However, if their fraternity brothers and sorority sisters are not willing to identify them, (or better yet, if they are not willing to identify themselves,) then I am less willing to see forgiveness offered to their houses.
If those students responsible are expelled, or removed from school for at least a year or two, and sued for damages trebled, I could see suspensions for the fraternities and sororities being lifted quickly. If, on the other hand, through some perverse sense of "brotherhood" no one takes responsibility, I could see the banhammer coming down on the entire house.
|5 days 15 hours ago||It'd be interesting to hear from fraternity members||
It'd be interesting to hear from fraternity members from Sigma Alpha Mu, Pi Kappa Alpha and Chi Psi who are also here at MGoBlog. I'm sure there are some who are on this blog who are in one of those houses. I wonder if any are willing to share what they were thinking, and what they think the repercussions and sanctions should be in light of what happened.
I just went to the Sammie site for UofM (LINK: http://www.michigansammy.com/) and there still is nothing posted whatsoever about the weekend.
Particularly damning is a statement from Tree Tops commenting on the public apology from Chapter President Joshua Kaplan. Barry Owens, general manager of the resort, was quoted saying this about Kaplan:
“I thought it was a joke because it was the president who was quoted and he was actually one of the ringleaders here,” Owens said. “He was one of the people who assured us they would behave themselves.”
|6 days 22 hours ago||Nope||
No, I didn't expect those two losses. I did think there would be some rough sledding, especially with the loss of the bigs. If McGary and Horton were here, the season would have been completely different. But there's no use in crying over spilled milk. All I would say is that I don't expect a lot from the team going forward, other than that they will win more games than anyone expects.
|6 days 23 hours ago||Playing with house money!||
This whole year, with Stauskas, McGary, Robinson, Morgan, and Horford gone, and Caris out, we're playing with house money. They've already done more than I expected. Every win they get from this point forward is gravy! It is all good, and you can just shake your head and smile. House money indeed. Edit: and should Walton's toe actually heal significantly, and Doyle continue to get better, I think we'll win a couple of games we're not expected to win.
|1 week 3 hours ago||Interesting post||
I will say, I found the post interesting. I didn't mind clicking and reading . . . thanks for posting. I also was interested to get both sides of the story, so I went to their website to see if Sigma Alpha Mu had any response. Nothing so far, although this doesn't seem to fit well with the mission statement at their national website:
Sigma Alpha Mu's Mission is to foster the development of collegiate men and our alumni by instilling strong fraternal values, offering social and service opportunities, encouraging academic excellence and teaching leadership skills. We will continue to attract members of all beliefs who appreciate our great heritage as a fraternity of Jewish men.
Looking forward to the spin on how this kind of weekend instills "strong fraternal values," or offers "service opportunities," or teaches "leadership skills." I suppose how they respond to this will give the opportunity for these kinds of goals to happen.
|1 week 20 hours ago||Can you imagine Bo doing that?||
Can you imagine Bo hauling around all the freshmen on the football team? Harbaugh in particular? That would have been a sight to behold!!
Here's a quote from another mgoblog post on Harbaugh's on behavior:
During his first two years in South Quad Harbaugh was directly involved in several assaults on fellow students. . . One of the most egregious examples of Harbaugh's lack of character is evidenced by his regular practice of throwing full containers of Dannon yogurt taken from the training table in the dorm's cafeteria out an open window at the end of the hall on the upper most floor of the building. When challenged by one of the students as to why he was tossing yogurt out of the window of the 8th floor of the building - only to have these containers explode on dented cars parked below - Gentleman Jim responded "$%#@ you, I am practicing my throwing arm".
In a more illuminating piece of journalism the SF Chronicle wrote "Harbaugh was arrested in November 2005 in Encinitas for driving under the influence after being pulled over for running a stop sign. At the time, Harbaugh said he "upset with myself and embarrassed for everyone around me." Harbaugh, who refused to take a field sobriety test, pled guilty to a lesser charge of reckless driving.
Maybe Harbaugh has decided he doesn't want his players to do the same things he did himself?
|1 week 21 hours ago||Been thinking about Drevno and Staff||
I've been thinking about Drevno, and about all the staff, as I wonder who is most important. I've come to the conclusion that this is (mostly) the wrong question, inevitably leading to the wrong answer.
The right answer is "nobody." That is to say, nobody is the most important. The team itself is the most important. "The team, the team, the team" is the answer. There's a little more nuance than that. Harbaugh is the most important. But he is the most important because of his focus on the team. He gets that the team is the most important, that everyone has a critical role to play.
You already see that in the coaching staff, in two ways. First, there is a lot of balance and excellence. I am thrilled with both Drevno and Durkin (and with Mattison, and Wheatley, and the rest.) But the second way goes deeper. I think having Baxter on special teams is huge. Having Jay is great, not just because of the tight ends, but because he apparently is great at scouting and film work. Having Tobert will help the strength and conditioning. Having his father on board, along with several retired coaches, is great.
I love football because it is such a team sport. Yes, there are superstars, and there are standouts, both on the team and among the coaches. But everyone has to contribute. This is what I see Harbaugh bringing to the table, and I believe it has the potential to make a huge difference.
|1 week 1 day ago||Would consider Michigan||
But there are too many other things to consider.
It is great that you are such a loyal Michigan fan. But realistically, there are all kinds of good reasons for people to consider other schools.
|1 week 2 days ago||Clark a valuable commodity||
Having big, fast tight ends has really changed the game. They create mismatches all over the field. I think someone like Clark is particularly helpful against spread style teams. The size difference more than negates the speed disparity, particularly if you have a QB who is good at distributing the ball to a number of receivers.
|1 week 2 days ago||Love this||
My dad is retired. It is great to be with him and my son at the same time. He is in good health, but I really appreciate the time we have as he pushes towards 90.
I can easily imagine Jackie kicking Jack out of the house "Get out of here . . . quit being underfoot. You know you want to go over with Jim." Things come full circle. Jim would hang around as a boy, now dad hangs around as a grandpa.
Also, guys like Jack (and for that matter, Carr and Moeller and Hanlon) can have an awful lot of wisdom. They don't have the stamina and the energy of Drevno, let alone Durkin. But it makes all the sense in the world to get their two cents consider.
|1 week 3 days ago||Tough but understandable break||
Manning was a good guy, a good player at Michigan, and a good recruiter. The problem is that there was no way he was going to stay in place of either Durkin (DC & LB) or Mattison (former DC, DL coach now, and LB coach in the past.) Both Durkin and Mattison are excellent recruiters. Both have experience with the line, and with linebackers. Manning just wasn't needed.
I do believe that his coaching position at Washington State (outside LB) is a more natural fit for Manning. I also believe his time with coaching CB will help Manning in the future, but that he needs more seasoning. To be honest, upon reflection, I'm not sure he should have been at Michigan this last season. That's water over the dam, but I do think Manning has a bright future.
|1 week 3 days ago||Hate the term . . .||
Hate the term, but love the concept.
Like points on this board, like the fight club, like hazing on a sports team, you just don't talk about. Just don't do it.
Honestly, I'm crabby because I thought this would be a thread about the "new Michigan man," i.e., the first recruit to commit under Harbaugh. Imagine my dismay to find out it was yet another thread about this kind of crap.
|1 week 3 days ago||Involves a sports personality||
If the perp was not a well known announcer/commentator with ESPN, your point would stand. As it is, because he is well known in sports, and because we are past the football season, the mods are more generous in terms of allowing OT posts to go up.
FYI, if you go to the tab labeled "MGoBoard," and click oin the "FAQ" subtab, you will find comments on appropriate posts. Here is a cut & paste from Brian:
What's the offtopic policy?
In the offseason, offtopic posts are tolerated. During football season they are discouraged and may be subject to removal depending on how alert the moderators are. What counts as on- and off- topic?
We will let pro sports topics slide even during football season but "everything else" posts are likely to get the axe.
|1 week 4 days ago||Partially agree||
I suspect that legalization and regulation would help a little bit. The demand will always be there. But I think it is less the oldest profession and more a dangerous form of exploitation.
Here's a few fun facts you might not know.
I've never solicited a prostitute. I was clueless enough while a student at Michigan that I didn't realize when a prostitute was soliciting/seeking me. But I am troubled by what goes on in terms of exploitation, and believe that we too often turn a blind eye to those on the margins of society who are victims.
I completely agree with you that we should not be shocked, and that this will never change. Demand from men will always drive the trade. Where I completely disagree with you is the implication tha a majority "like doing it." I'd agree that a significant number "choose" this profession, but only because they don't see another way to earn as much money quickly. And once they come under the control of a pimp, that sadly changes radically too.
I feel no shock, no indignation, and no surprise at what happened with Greg Anthony. I do feel compassion and sympathy for the girls and women who are driven to this trade because they see no other options.
For a classy film depiction of challenges facing women over time, just watch Les Miserables and Anne Hathaway. Those with power and position and no moral scruples are often tempted to exploit those who are desperate.
|1 week 4 days ago||water with a couple aspirin||
water with a couple aspirin. And back to bed.
|1 week 4 days ago||It's complicated||
So, there's no need for morals police. This is proven by the fact that there is no crime when two (or more) consenting adults make adult decisions. It may be a moral or immoral decision, but it is their decision, and no one else needs to be involved.
The problem, as noted by another poster above, is with the sex trade itself. The number of women who are largely slaves, physically and violently abused, denigrated, and the like is terrible. When minors are involved, it is even worse. Maybe the industry should be legalized, to eliminate the degradation of women and children by traffickers.
Perhaps I am cynical enough to believe that legalization would not eliminate the problem. Or maybe this is because I live in the Chicago area, where corruption among politicians is endemic. Money often corrupts.
I think (but don't know) that it is legal in Thailand and the Philippines. The legality (or near legality) doesn't help tens of thousands of girls (and boys) who are sold into a sordid life of slavery, often by parents, to slake the sordid thirsts of adults from elsewhere.
|1 week 5 days ago||You've missed the biggest advantage||
You've missed the biggest advantage of this technology: now you can stay plugged in to MGoBlog and Michigan sports ALL the time. No more putting away devices because you're "driving." Think of the productivity! You won't have to miss a single post or thread because you're driving ever again! What could be better? And if your device will ring or beep to wake you up when a new post is put up, you can even take it to bed with you. What a magnificent obsession.
|1 week 6 days ago||Only an hour away||
Since it is only an hour away, I'm sure they will do just that. You know, they have the medivac helos . . . maybe we should have a Michigan helicopter so Harbaugh can be even more energetic, enthusiastic, and cover more territory! Ok, a bad idea, but I'm sure he'll hurry back nonetheless.
|1 week 6 days ago||agree strongly on UCLA turnaround||
Agree strongly on UCLA turnaround being encouraging. I do believe that Michigan is not terribly far off from being competitive.
Your comment on UCLA brings something else to mind. Over the years, a number of major teams have had significant downturns. USC, UCLA, Washington, Texas, A & M, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Miami, Notre Dame, and others have all been in the upper echelons of college football, and have all been down, sometimes for a significant period.
As much as I absolutely hate the last seven years, I wonder if it wasn't helpful in the long run. Seven years of famine, seven years wandering in the wilderness, make me more appreciative as a fan, and make the team much more hungry. We have often used the phrase "buckle up" when a recruit was about to commit. I think we'll be buckling up a lot: not for recruits, but for Mr. Harbaugh's wild ride.
|1 week 6 days ago||Love it||
And I suppose hampsters are used by all the Michigan Hipster crowd.
|1 week 6 days ago||Yeah, but sometimes people say things they regret.||
Yeah, but sometimes people say things they regret. I've certainly written things, said things, and done things that upon reflection, were better left unwritten, unsaid, and undone.
Exhibit A: Harbaugh regrets the comments he made about Michigan academics.
Exhibit B: And regarding those comments, Brian put up a very long and detailed piece entitled Destroy Harbaugh. (LINK: http://mgoblog.com/content/destroy-harbaugh#comments)
My guess is that Brian would retract some of his own statements about Harbaugh. Among other statements in reference to what Harbaugh said on Michigan academics, Brian wrote
WD, you're a young man. But the older you get, the more you realize that there are indeed things you say and do that you wish you could erase. Unfortunately, life doesn't work that way.
|1 week 6 days ago||Seared in my memory||
I never knew what an erotic interpretive dance was. Carlos and MGoBrewMom have ruined me for life . . . the horror, the horror, I'll never be able to watch a gif of Kate Upton or Scarlett Johansson the same way again.
|1 week 6 days ago||What's a hampster?||
Must be something exotic I've never heard about before in my limited experience.
|2 weeks 1 hour ago||Great article||
I think this is exactly right. So far, Michigan hasn't proven anything, Michigan hasn't been anything, for some time now. But if anyone is going to move us in the right direction, it is Harbaugh.
I look forward to the day when the Big 10 is the place football players want to go . . . when Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State, Penn State, and Wisconsin are all competitive and on the top of the mountain. No half measures will do. We need the best facilities, best coaches, and best players out there, if we want to truly be the "leaders and the best."
|2 weeks 4 hours ago||Not good enough?||
As mentioned above in this thread, even Urban Meyer has decreased the percentage of Ohio State players coming from the state of Ohio. We could certainly lock up the state of Michigan, but if that means bringing lesser players on to our team, we will never compete on a national level. Of course, coaches make mistakes in evaluating talent. But I suspect that if he was that good, he would have been offered by better schools.
|2 weeks 20 hours ago||I think the term is "pantsed"||
I think the term is "pantsed." I have never heard of depansing.
FTR, I kind of agree with you. But with 10 posts of sarcasm, I figured a bit of board education wouldn't hurt. With a side serving of snark.
|2 weeks 20 hours ago||Various things you can do||
There's no end of things you can do.
There are a number of things you shouldn't do.
|2 weeks 20 hours ago||Sigh . . . learn how to use the blog||
To the OP, Steve Breaston:
I could pile on and ridicule you with snark. Instead, let me help you avoid doing this again.
Any time I put up a new post, I ask, has then been posted previously? How would I search for this? If a prior post is named well, it will usually come up. And it will spare you from the ridicule of those who live on the board 24/7, and who know all the minutiae of Michigan trivia.
|2 weeks 22 hours ago||In addition to Jackson||
In addition to Jackson, Tolbert is black. He isn't young, but he is black. That would be at least three blacks on the staff: Wheatley, Tolbert, and Jackson.
|2 weeks 23 hours ago||It depends . . .||
It depends . . . is Uncle Sam screwing my daughter or not? She goes back and forth on that herself! Sometimes she feels screwed, sometimes not. We'll wait and see on that.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Love Beilein||
I love Beilein. I love the kind of team he fields. I hope he stays here well into his 70's. And I hope some of the blue chip guys out there (like 2015 5 star prospect Jalen Brown and 2016 5 star prospects Josh Langford and Tyus Battle) choose to come to Michigan instead of going to Kentucky, Duke, or Kansas.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||I'm ok with rankings||
I kind of like being ranked 7th, for several reasons.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Internet Meme||
This is an Internet meme.
Like the MSU Graffiti.
Know your mgoblog memes.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Just sad||
This is just sad, although it undoubtedly describes the way the world is. Something has changed, when you have to be incredibly talented, well off, or rack up substantial loans just to afford an in-state education. Let alone out of state. In the late 70's, you could still pretty much cover most of your tuition, board, and fees with summer jobs and work study programs. Those days are long gone. My own daughter joined the Navy as a way to both get education benefits and avoid racking up student loans.
I really don't understand the mentality of someone who wants to be with someone 20 or 30 or more years younger. I mean, sure, there is something attractive about it physically, but in other ways, it just seems sad.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||I appreciated your coverage, Brian||
As you said, hopefully you'll never have to go through this again. Following 3 football head coach searches just isn't fun to me anymore.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Want to follow this in light of "reverse engineering"||
I really want to follow recruiting in light of the excellent reverse engineering diary. In particular, if you click on the above diary on this, you will see the following listed as urgent needs:
Given our current six commits, there is room for another 9 - 10 more in the 2015. I personally have continued to be concerned about the OL, given what happened under RR. Here are some questions.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||I'm sure you're right||
I'm sure you're right. Material benefits, in particular, obviously can't be extended to others beyond junior. Having said that, I would assume there is a little wiggle room in terms of interaction and discussions between father and son.
But I also am pretty sure that the rules will be followed by Harbaugh and the coaching staff. And typically, coaches I've known don't cut their own kids any slack or give them preferential treatment. Would think the same would be true here.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||You are missing a couple things||
You are missing a couple things.
Some of these things you'll understand more when you have adult children and also grandchildren. If you have a good relationship, it is nice to be able to spend time together, and not be in a different part of the country.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Huge for Michigan||
This is just huge for Michigan. Job titles are there for a reason, and the buck has to stop somewhere. Having said that, I think that Mattison is a great elder statesman, and he will be able to contribute significant helpful perspective on the linebackers and on how the defense works together as a whole. If he is having fun, he could potentially continue for a long time at Michigan. The players seem to relate very well to him.
Reading the presser raises a question that isn't thread worthy, but that I have wondered about. I've been curious about what Jack Harbaugh will be doing with Jim as the head coach. Will Jack relocate to the Ann Arbor area? Will he occasionally give his two cents worth to Jim? It seems that he isn't much of one for golf or fishing or just laying around, and I could see him enjoying spending a bit of time around the program.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I've often thought the same thing||
I've often thought the same thing. We spin things to fit our picture of what we want the world to be. The reality, probably, is slightly more complicated. It really depends on whether someone or some situation is viewed very positively, very negatively, or inbetween.
With Jim Harbaugh, he currently can walk on water, will cure all ills, will bring in the best coaching staff, gets along fine with his players and is loved by them, will be at Michigan for life, etc., etc., etc.
It wasn't that long ago that Hoke "pooped gold excellence." We see how that turned. Basically, when someone wins, all is forgiven and overlooked. When someone loses, nothing they do is right.
It also partially is affected by the "hive mind." Right now, no one is going to crab about anything Coach Harbaugh does, at least here. To do so is to seek negbangs. There undoubtedly are people with reservations about Harbaugh. But they will lay low . . . until such time as he has multiple losses or miscues.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Looks very fit||
So, you can't tell too much from just a little video. However, it appears that Tolbert is very fit himself, and looks to have the ability to relate to the players. In the video, he mentions that he's starting with "evaluating the players." I'm pretty sure they'll be feeling pain shortly under his tutelage.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Some, not all||
Some, not all rules get tossed out. As regards contact, however, a "prior existing relationship" means that Wheatley can have as much contact with his son as wanted . . . the normal rules don't apply.
What would be interesting would be rules on coachable hours. I suppose that a father could coach his own son as many hours as desired. That's one of the rules I wouldn't be clear on.
It also would be interesting to know how rules applied to friends of Wheatley Jr. If Wheatley Jr. is doing something and has a friend along, how do rules apply to said friend? This level of question becomes arcane.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||We have a winner||
I believe you are almost correct, FTW. IIRC, it was still the Wild West here, Seth was still going by his nom de plume, Brian descended from on high into board depths more often, and some of his old buds (formerly anonymous et al) still hung around. I believe with the post in question, the original poster was woefully and innocently unaware of his faux pax, leading to the snarky and sarcastic piling on and adaptation of Bolivian by the board at large.
And there were some epic flame wars, where poster stupidity (choosing to reply belligerently multiple times in your own already negative post) allowed for massive piling on of negs. I vaguely recall guys having downwards of 70 in negative points for a single post, with maybe a dozen or more posts in the same thread. If you invoked the wrath of the board community, with some members having a very long and punitive memory, you could quickly descend into Bolivian without help from ever watchful moderators.
It would be interesting if someone with access to the bowels of mgoblog history could sleuth up the maximum cumulative negs and maximum cumulative posbangs in a single thread, sans the Gandalfian wizardry of mods or proprieters adding or deleting ungodly numbers of points in one fell swoop. I'd hazard a guess that Raback or TomVH would top the list of positive points, for some post breaking the news of an upcoming commitment. (WD might be up there, but this is obscured by the dispensation of 1,000,000 special points.)
It would be harder for me to remember who had the maximum negative total. Posters like that often chose to go down in an inglorious blaze of blind board hatred and fury, burning board bridges, receiving the dreaded ban hammer, and not only "going to Bolivia," but truly "fading into oblivion," lost in the mists of ether memory.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||You do know the source of Bolivia, right?||
You do know the source of Bolivia, right? It was a riff on Mike Tyson's quote "I guess I'm just gonna fade into Bolivian." I remember this popping up on the blog back in 08.
|3 weeks 4 hours ago||Agree with you and OP||
Agree with you and OP. I'm here for Michigan sports: JH and coaching and recruiting and basketball and the occasional good OT read. The internet has become a huge place to share all kinds of pics, but not on any mainstream sites, and not on this site.
It isn't classy and just is better not to do. As Magnus said elsewhere, he changed Touched the Banner so you had to deliberately click through to see any photos.
As for what is permissible and what isn't, that's a bit tricky. I don't exactly know the answer. For me, mgrowold's avatar is perfectly fine. Attractive women are always fine as avatars. But somewhere, there is a line which defines good taste. This is a cop out, but if you're not sure, ask your sister or mother or wife or girlfriend. Obviously, mgrowold's wife has no problem with his avatar. Same with my wife having her pic as my avatar. On the other hand, I'd like to know how many women out there approve of the "pimp hand" photo. My guess is not too many.
|3 weeks 5 hours ago||There's always someone||
There's always someone going for the low hanging fruit. iirc, mgouser Hugh Jass has an avatar of Charlie Weis in his ND coaching days. Back in the day, I remember an awful lot of posts jabbing at ND and coach Weis.
I guess everything is fair game for bloggers. Having said that, my guess is that JH eats pretty healthy.
|3 weeks 13 hours ago||disregard . . . double post.||
disregard . . . double post.
|3 weeks 13 hours ago||Well, I do agree with you||
Well, I do agree with you that this isn't a place for lots of naked or mostly naked pics. It just makes it too nsfw or nsfh or nsfsrk. It's kind of a low class, RCMB, Eleven Warriors trashy place to go. It's interesting that even Magnus at his Touch the Banner blog now relegates cheesecake to the 2nd page.
I think since the servers were reset, and the mods were on board, there has been more internal policing to keep things appropriate.
|3 weeks 18 hours ago||Ignore . . . double post||
Ignore . . . double post
|3 weeks 18 hours ago||My avatar is indeed Mrs. StephenRKass||
Yes, my avatar is indeed a picture of my wife from back in the day. I put the pic of Beth up to laugh at myself . . . everytime I post, I see Beth looking at me (and I guess asking, are you posting again?) I have a number of other headshots of her, and one of these days, I will get around to changing the avatar. But it will still recognizably be her.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Thanks||
We all put up stupid posts. That night was my night for multiple stupidity. I've grown.
I am at peace with mostly lurking now. I went cold turkey from mgoblog for most of the Fall. It was just too painful and I couldn't stand it after dealing with similar stuff with RR.
As for myself, there are so many things I've enjoyed reading. Crex, gsimmons85, steve sharik, big boutros, blue seoul, formerly anonymous, BiSB, and so many more made great contributions to the blog. Honestly, there were some posters whose name I've forgotten, but whose avatars are in my mind . . . a pair of dice was one, and this guy who was a photographer and had a self portrait in ww1 coat and helmet, iirc.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Loved description of "Frozen"||
Seth, I loved your description/synopsis of "Frozen." Read it outloud to my Daycare/Preschool Director, and she thought it was almost spot on. (She claimed that the third time sis was Frozen, she wasn't shot by her sibling. I'll have to take her word for it, as I'm not going to watch it again to find out.)
|3 weeks 3 days ago||"Thought everyone would enjoy"||
"Thought everyone would enjoy." So, I am not quite yet a card carrying member of the "Get Off My Lawn!" club. And still, I just didn't find this funny, informative, enjoyable.
So I guess my question, Chuckwood: is this your kind of humor? Did this make you ROFLMAO? Is this what passes for humor on the campus today? Is this what fraternities are now like? Genuinely curious, because if this is the current state of humor, I am hopelessly out of touch. And gladly so, I might add.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||My opinion: win||
Short version: just win, baby. More specifically, beat OSU & MSU. The rest doesn't matter.
Things like helmet stickers, traditional unis vs. uniformz, maize vs. highlighter yellow, Nike vs. Adidas, piped in music vs. the marching band, day games vs. night games, numbering of teams, Ohio vs. Ohio State, just don't matter that much to me. I mean, I have a few preferences, but these things are secondary and tertiary.
I am greedy and entitled, as a Michigan fan. Here are things that matter to me:
If these things are happening, I can live with almost anything in the other list. If these things aren't happening, getting everything "right" in the first list won't mean a thing.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Lots of Khakis||
Just an observation in this photo of some of the former coaches: lots of Khakis. Not sure that is relevant.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Stupid question||
Stupid question. Dumb, dumb, dumb. They got it right. By running the table in a Power 5, they WON the right to be there. Now, I had many doubts about whether or not they were one of the top four teams. But I blame the Big 12 and those Baylor & TCU schedulers. And even then, it would have bumped OSU, not FSU.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Stupid question||
Stupid question. Dumb, dumb, dumb. They got it right. By running the table in a Power 5, they WON the right to be there. Now, I had many doubts about whether or not they were one of the top four teams. But I blame the Big 12 and those Baylor & TCU schedulers. And even then, it would have bumped OSU, not FSU.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Possible face saving for Fred||
I can see Fred Jackson retiring. But he has been here a long time, back to Moeller, and Carr, and through everything He started in 1992. Fred is 64 years old, and is unlikely to go elsewhere. If there is a way Harbaugh could retain him one year, with Wheatley at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised. That would be a gracious way to thank Fred, and to move on. You young whippersnappers don't get this yet, but there is such a thing as giving elder statesment respect and dignity, rather than cutting them loose out of expediency. The hard thing is the NCAA numbers (maximum coaching staff.) If there is a way to finesse that, I expect it to happen.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Heard you should avoid Cialis||
Heard you should avoid Cialis. Maybe Harbaugh news too. Otherwise you could cause yourself permanent injury.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||No more gouging & gimmickry||
So, I've thought about these lists, what to retain, and what to get rid of. Tradition is a funny thing. Change is a funny thing. It is hard to pin down, but things do change, and some traditions need to die. We can look back fondly at various things in the past, but realize that time moves on, and things change.
I personally don't care whether the yellow is "maize" or "highlighter." The legends thing is kind of cool, if it could be a bit more tasteful. There are good arguments for and against helmet stickers. Personally, if they validate the players, then do it. As much as I like the traditional uniform, I can deal with some new special uniforms for various occasions.
Something I think that would be really cool would be to have a live Wolverine at the game sometime. Somehow, I don't think that's going to happen . . . but it still would be cool.
As for the marching band, and piped in music, I don't think they've got the sound system figured out yet. If they could make both work, that'd be a good thing.
But I guess what I'd really like would be for a deliberate choice to move away from "branding" and "corporatization" and "marketing buy ins." I'd like to see it be affordable for normal people to go to games. I'd like for it to be a communal fun experience (and the luxury boxes don't bother me.) I'd like to be able to bring a bottle of water into the game, or for water to be sold for 50 cents instead of some ridiculous price.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Somewhat agree||
I somewhat agree with your post. However, I think there are several other schools that do in fact have the ability to compare academically and athletically:
I realize that you can never do a perfect comparison. For instance, Ohio State is not rated as highly as Michigan academically. But all of the above schools are at least in the ballpark, in terms of having had success athletically and academically.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Non-Anonymous wants it to stop||
You see my name. I was never a huge fan of this JMFR thing, but rolled with it. However, I'll go on record that let's not do it with Harbaugh. Thank you very much.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Wow. Just wow.||
Wow. Just wow. I don't think I've ever seen this many threads on the same topic in such a short time span. Glad to have participated. Will be better when we actually find out the recruiting impact.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||It's ok||
It's ok. Mgobloggers can be excused. It is like a car of kids waiting to get to Cedar Point, or vacation, or wherever . . . are we there yet? Is it happening? Will this affect recruiting?
I think that so many of us couldn't bear to follow recruiting any more, especially after previous recruits started dropping like flies.
I do recall (when I posted basically the same question a couple days ago) being thrilled with Iman Marshall and Chris Clark being such strong possibilities. I think this also solidifes the so-called soft commits (Cole & Kinnel.) Some of the recruiting gurus thought the ship had sailed on a few. (Hilliard.)
With regards to Weber, he has publicly stated he is firm to OSU. We'll see. I personally am interested to see what happens with Damen Harris. I'm thinking we only take one of the two given the size of the class.
Another decommit who someone thought might be interested in a recommit to Michigan is the DE Roseboro.
This class was always going to be pretty small. I don't see many current players decommiting because of Harbaugh. If Michigan got commitments next week from Marshall, Clark, a RB, Roseboro, and a surprise or two, that would go a long way to stabilizing the current recruiting class, that would go a long way toward righting the recruiting. Harbaugh and his staff would be able to focus on filling the remaining slots. With Ryan and Ferns gone, I could see adding a LB. And after Rich Rodriguez, I will always be nervous taking less than 3 on the OL.
|5 weeks 19 hours ago||Remember the first rule of points||
To the OP, you need to remember the first rule of points. NEVER talk about points. Just suck it up and take your beating. You only make it worse when you whine about negs. Which you implicitly did with your edit to your OP.
|5 weeks 23 hours ago||Let me be more clear||
Well, obviously, recruiting will be better with any coach, and will be much better with Harbaugh. That's so obvious I don't know what to say. Except, that's not the answer I wanted.
Let me be more clear. There are several categories I was interested in.
Because I stopped following recruiting altogether several months ago, I really don't know the current and anticipated state of things with recruiting. That is what I was asking about.
|5 weeks 23 hours ago||Well, things change||
Well, things change. Reporters could solidly believe something, (Harbaugh will NEVER leave the NFL) but see how things change.
People are allowed to change their mind, you know. Now, the search engine here isn't sophisticated enough to search on several fields. But if I was able to do a search for mgoblog posts in 2009 and 2010, written by Brian, about Harbaugh, I'm almost positive I would find some very definitive statements about how bridges had been burned, and he never wanted Harbaugh at Michigan again. And there were more than a few posters who felt the same way.
If you held every mgoblogger to every stupid post they put up here, well, it'd be pretty rough. We all say things and write things and believe things, and realize that things change. Same deal with reporters. Graciously allow them to change. (unless they're Drew Sharp: I've had it with him.)
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Depends what is meant by "commitment"||
What does it mean to commit? I could see Harbaugh talking to a commit, to find out how solidly they were committed. If a recruit out there said, "Thanks for the call coach, but my commitment is solid," well, that's one thing. But if he called and the recruit said, "Thanks for calling. I'm currently committed, but I'd be open to sitting down to talk with you and my position coach," well, that's a horse of a different color.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Thanks!||
That's exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks for your post. I didn't have Roseboro's name in front of me, but I wondered about him. Marshall and Roseboro would be great additions. And I'm sure that some who have committed are gone for good. I did notice that Damien Harris still hasn't made a commitment anywhere. In some ways, having a small class is very helpful. It would be much easier to sign 9 - 10 more guys than 15 - 20 more.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Well, I'm clueless||
Well, I'm clueless, which is why I posted in the first place. I thought Cole was a commit. Scout has him listed not as a commit, but as a prospect. Like everyone else, I'm eagerly awaiting what happens with the coaching change. But other than those starting class in January, I really don't know what is happening with the current class. It was so depressing to see guys decommitting, I stopped compulsively following recruiting.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||The one by Leonard Cohen?||
Leonard Cohen wrote a song called "Halleluia." Which will always remind me of Shrek.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Don't know Handelson||
I don't know of Handelson. Was he Handel's virtually unknown recently discovered Jewish cousin?
|5 weeks 1 day ago||I'm so sorry for you||
I'll be praying for you and your parents. I feel terrible for you, and hope that your parents come to their senses, and don't put you in the middle.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||It's up to you!||
It is up to you (what will be posted here.). But as a mgoblog participant for years, I'm pretty sure the blog will fill up with stuff. Among others:
|6 weeks 1 hour ago||Mood was very different||
So, I was a student in the late 70's and early 80's. From 1977 through 1983, my time in Ann Arbor, Michigan went 4 - 3 versus Ohio State. I didn't bother checking versus Michigan State, because we dominated them at that point in time.
In my time, Michigan and Ohio State were competitive with each other. I was there during Bo vs. Woody. It was a great rivalry. Yes, I wanted Michigan to win every game, but for the most point, there was parity between the Wolverines and Buckeyes. Either might be favored by a bit, but from year to year, they were largely equals. It was much more frustrating to lose trap games that Michigan should have won.
Of course, I have followed Michigan ever since, and have been to a couple Rose Bowls. The current state of affairs is unimaginable to me: Michigan has not really been that competitive with Ohio State for a while.
|6 weeks 18 hours ago||Another Bears fan, Michigan Alum, & Chicagoan Here||
So I'm another Chicagoan and Bears fan. This is an interesting dynamic. First of all, I want Harbaugh at Michigan, period.
Having said that, the Bears are at an interesting point. While they are historically cheap, there are some parallels with Michigan.
I have no clue what Harbaugh will do. I have no clue what the Bears ownership will do. But if the Bears Matriarch Virginia McCaskey decides to go all in, this could be a hard fight for Michigan to win. The thing is, I haven't seen that she wants to do that.
|6 weeks 21 hours ago||Some more . . .||
Go Tell in on the Mountain
Over the Hills and everywhere
Go tell it on the Mountain
Jim Harbaugh’s done come home
Good Michigan Men Rejoice
with heart and soul and voice
Give ye heed to what we say
Harbaugh’s coming home today.
Rivals bow before him now
And he is in the Big House now
Harbaugh’s home today
Harbaugh’s home today
We Wish You a Merry Harbaugh
We Wish You a Merry Harbaugh
We Wish You a Merry Harbaugh
and a Championship Here
Angels We Have Harbaugh Here
Come, Thou Long Expected Harbaugh
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Happy Chanukkah||
Happy Chanukkah, for all who celebrate it. My sister and her husband are among the many who observe both Chanukkah and Christmas. They'll celebrate the next 8 days, then our family and others will be over for Christmas dinner on Christmas Day.
I'm curious: is Chanukkah much observed in Israel, or more in the US and the West as an antidote/alternative to Christmas?
I know that Passover, Rosh Hashana, and Yom Kippur (and maybe Sukkot) are much more important.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Live in Chicago area||
Yeah, I'd definitely go if I were you.
Have a great time, and enjoy the game.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Thanks for posting||
I enjoyed this . . . thank you! FTR, I don't think anyone would consider "Jingle Bells" religious. And I think "Happy Holidays" encompasses everything from Hannukah to Kwaanza to Festivus to Christmas to Winter Solstice. The whole point is to be inclusive. Of course, some people will always get their feelings hurt no matter what you do.
The bigger point is to really look not to take offense, especially when none is intended. Some people are just too crabby and get their feelings hurt too easily.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||I think it was worse 4 yrs ago||
I think the climate on the board was worse 4 years ago. But this is pretty bad. I really try to limit my reading at mgoblog anymore, and I almost never go down the rabbit hole of many threads. It can eat you alive, both in terms of time and of poison.
There are several things that make it different this time around.
As much as I want Michigan to win, I have come to believe that the desire to win at all costs at ANY institution is toxic.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||I'm so sorry||
I'm so sorry to hear of your health challenges. I'll be praying for you, and also sending a small donation to MGoBlog.
My daughter has celiac disease, (which I realize is irrelevant to you.) The point is, it took more than long enough for her condition to be correctly diagnosed. The time waiting for that diagnosis was both painful and slow. I certainly hope they identify something that can be treated and dealt with by you, so that you can continue with your love of writing and your love of Michigan sports.
|8 weeks 2 hours ago||Multiple answers||
Your answer can be addressed in several ways.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||What is the Impact on Recruiting?||
So, I haven't hardly followed recruiting in the last couple months, especially in the last month after things totally cratered. I'm curious about the impact on recruiting. I'm assuming that anyone who has stuck it out this far (in terms of commitment to Michigan) is committed to the University, not to anyone on the coaching staff, least of all Hoke. But I do have a couple questions:
First Is there anyone remaining committed to Michigan who would leave because the coaching staff was let go?
Second, in the event that someone like Harbaugh or Miles becomes our next coach, are there any decommitments who would recommit? Are there any commitments to other schools who would consider flipping to Michigan? I'd love to see Michigan move quickly, so that a new coaching staff is on board, and has the opportunity to gain some solid recruits in the month of January.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Still don't have a phone||
They still don't have their own phones. We have a cell phone that we give to them when they have an outing or game or event where they need to call us. It isn't a "cool" phone, and it has very minimal minutes on it. They do more of the social connections with friends on their iPods. As it turns out, we're only a block or so away from the middle school, so they can walk home in less than 5 minutes, and aren't too dependent on us to be their chauffer. Oh, and they are close to the last kids in school not to have their own phone. We'll probably break down and get them one before High School starts in the Fall.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Peace and happy children||
World peace might be too much to ask for. Board peace would definitely be too much to ask for. But I want my family to have more peace and harmony. I want my kids to be happy, at peace, and respectful (13 year old twins are a handful.) I also am really looking forward to having my 21 year old daughter and her husband home for Christmas from the Navy. The older I get, the less I need or even want.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Honestly I don't care what OSU is ranked||
Honestly I don't care what OSU is ranked. All of the choices are good.
I don't think even the most delirious OSU fan could see them run the table and win out. For the sake of the Big 10, I would prefer that OSU get beat soundly by Wisconsin. It would reflect poorly on the Big 10 to make it and then be humiliated by a much better team.
|10 weeks 15 hours ago||He never lost me||
Hoke never lost me. That doesn't mean I am going to argue for him, nor does it mean that I'll stop going to games when he is fired. But he never lost me, and I still think Hoke is a good coach. I'm almost at the point where I'd like to see the team win against Maryland, Ohio State, and the Bowl Game, and Hoke still get fired. That way, the majority of the fans who think he is the problem will be satisfied with blood. Many great recruits will jump ship. And we'll get to experience what a real tire fire is.
This post of mine is stupid, and invites a negative response. It reminds me of the reason why I need to just walk away from the blog altogether. I guess I just strongly dislike the presumption of the question, "when did Hoke lose you?" The fan/blog hive mind is an incredible thing, which is beyond me to stand against.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||I need to be more clear||
I need to be more clear. I think MN has a very good team. We lost badly, I fully agree on that. What I was trying to say was that losing to Minnesota was losing to a very good team.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||Went to the NW game||
I went to the Northwestern game. It was . . . interesting, to say the least. I can't respond to everyone, but I am not going to argue for Hoke. And it is a waste of everyone's time to get into pissing matches with other fans about the future of the program. What's done is done.
I simply think that if Peppers had been healthy, if we had had Ty Isaac, if Gardner had been healthy and mobile, if the OL had been where they are now at the beginning of the season, we would have won a couple more games, and the discussion would be very different. Yeah, and if wishes were fishes . . .
|10 weeks 1 day ago||I think the team is much better than given credit for||
I think the team is much better than given credit for. Imhe, Michigan has improved an awful lot over the course of the season. I really expected that to happen, largely because of the OL.
I think the defense has done remarkably well, particularly given the loss of Peppers.
The skill positions haven't been as good as we want, but part of that was the OL developing, part of it injuries (Green and Gardner.)
I think that Minnesota is much better than given credit for, and don't call that a bad loss. The single game I really wish we would have won is Rutgers. I am incredibly depressed when I think about Michigan football, because I think it is a foregone conclusion Hoke will be fired, and I think that is not the solution.
I do think we will beat Maryland, and I think that Michigan will play OSU much better and tighter than hardly anyone expects.
Oh, and I actually think that in terms of player personnel, Michigan is pretty well set for the coming year. While I'd dearly love to see Hoke get another year, I'm assuming that the Mongol hordes won't allow that to happen.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||Thankful for this Post||
I'm thankful for this post. I haven't posted much the last several months, as the negativity has been too much for me. However, like a moth drawn to the flame, I can't quite quit this blog. Thanks for your perspective.
Speaking of perspective, I'm thankful for time away from this blog to think about what is really important, which means I've spent more time with my family, more time doing things that matter, less time on the internet.
I'm thankful for the time I had in Ann Arbor, and thankful for so many blessings from God in this life. If I had to pick just a couple, I'd say I'm thankful that God is patient and forgiving, and I'm thankful for good people around me, from a wife and children to good friends. I think I'll just stop there.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Biggest change is OL||
It appears our OL has jelled. This was predicted: they are young and were not used to playing together. Regardless, assuming our OL play is solid, and we have three RB available (Green back, along with Smith and Drake,) that opens a lot up.
Conversely, we will be hurt by the loss of Clark, but that is more than compensated for by their loss of Diggs.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||You're on your own.||
You're on your own.
|18 weeks 5 days ago||Hold responsible, yes||
Yes, Brandon should be held responsible. He has made some bone headed decisions. Being held responsible, however, doesn't mean that all his decisions are stupid. It seems that there are some who reflexively here "Dave Brandon," and their first thought is, "what moronic, money grubbing thing is he doing now?" When you try to paint things as either "bad" or "good," you get into trouble. There are some things that Brandon should get credit for, just as there are some things he should be castigated for.
If Brandon is a good executive, and not totally tone deaf, criticisms need to help him change some of the things he has done. But you know, I do agree with several things Brandon is doing. Time doesn't stand still for anyone. You have to make changes with the times, while being respectful of the past. I don't think that Brandon should be crucified for trying some things that don't work. It wouldn't help if he was paralyzed by the fear of opposition. For me, the biggest problem would be if Brandon fails to listen to criticisms and to accept that some of the things he has done have failed.
My frustration is with those who are simply seeing negative in everything right now. The so-called "haterz" are those who will criticize EVERYTHING that Brandon does.
Let me use an analogy. A lot of people love to wax poetic about how wonderful Wrigley Field is. Wrigley Field does have it's charms. But the reality is that the facilities were not updated, are cramped, and are not an enjoyable place to play. And as a fan, there are lousy things about the park. Now, you don't need to tear Wrigley Field down, but you do need to acknowledge that there have to be some updates and changes.
Brandon is making some of those changes for Michigan, and it isn't a bad thing.
|18 weeks 5 days ago||Fair enough||
We'll see what happens this season and next. Yeah, I'd support cutting Hoke loose if he has a losing season, or even if he just matches last year. I think the team will do much better than that, but we'll see. As regards Beilein, I do agree that he's an elite coach. But I also remember how glum Brian was, thinking that Beilein was pretty meh, and had a limited ceiling. What Beilein needed was the support system and the money and the everything else to get to the next level. I don't think the consensus for much of Beilein's coaching career was that he was elite or a genius.
I do believe that the lack of OL depth and experience is the single greatest factor that hurt Michigan, especially in 2012 & 2013. I think that we're seeing the OL (and hence the team) turn the corner this year. I simply am convinced that most fans don't get how critical a solid OL is. That's why the LT, and with the other linemen not far behind, command such huge salaries in the NFL.
I grew up in the city in the Ukrainian Villiage area, left for 25 years, and landed in Carol Stream 17 years ago. It's been nice to be in one place for a while: I've lived longer here than at any other time in my life.
|18 weeks 5 days ago||Yes, I do||
Yes, I do believe they are building a culture of excellence. The improvements to the stadium, to the training facilities, the pay scale for the coaches, all those things contribute to excellence. I don't think it is a complete coincidence that Beilein has improved alongside huge improvements to the basketball physical plant. That is also happening in Football.
On another topic: are you in the city, or out in the burbs? I'm living near Wheaton, so just curious.
|18 weeks 6 days ago||That's why you play the games||
That's why you play the games. Obviously if Hoke proves this year and next that he is a mediocre coach with a limited ceiling, you let him go. And you are predicting he is mediocre, so cut him loose, the sooner the better. I'm predicting he will be a great coach for a long time. The most I'll say in terms of "excuses" is that he needs through the 2015 season for an intelligent analysis of who he is and what he can do.
Oh, and regards Bo: I loved him, and loved the fact that he was Michigan's coach the entire time. But some of the Bo worship around here goes a little bit overboard. Sometimes I wonder why he gets such a pass for his bowl record.
|18 weeks 6 days ago||You missed one . . .||
A corollary to to Option 4 is that this is politics, and anything political doesn't belong at Michigan, or shouldn't be posted on the board.
Other than that, excellent job . . . as I wrote my post, I was thinking of the noodle and the halo and the fireworks and the "get off my lawn" contingent.
|18 weeks 6 days ago||Thanks for the update||
I'd love to see KLS end up at Michigan. Having said that, it's a great thing that we are going after guys who are also considering USC, Oklahoma, OSU, Alabama, etc., etc., etc. The prowess of Michigan coaches in recruiting can't be underestimated. Should Hoke and the team make it through the next two seasons intact, we should be very well set going forward, with excellent depth at virtually every position, and stronger recruits as each year goes by. This morning, as I looked at the depth chart and went through the UFR, I was struck by two seemingly contradictory things:
Regardless, I'm thrilled with the recruiting, and that Michigan is in the hunt for a couple five star recruits.
|18 weeks 6 days ago||Don't be an idiot||
Don't be an idiot. Of course no one is content with 8 - 4 being ok. The question isn't about whether or not 8 - 4 is ok. It is about whether or not 8 - 4 is ok for the 2014 season.
To put it another way, what is the direction of the program? Are we improving, stagnatiing, or declining? For instance:
Of course, we'd rather have success NOW. But life doesn't typically work that way. I want Michigan to build a culture of excellence, and it takes time to get there. The complete lack of patience for the process is maddening to me. No, I don't want mediocrity. But excellence does not happen overnight. And typically, if it happens overnight, it's because someone has egregiously cut corners. I don't want that to happen either.
|18 weeks 6 days ago||Nice||
That's great . . . it is practically an airshow. And I'll assume some current generation stealth fighters or bombers are what you can't officially say.
Only thing I wonder: how will the Brandon Haterz twist this and complain? Some people aren't happy unless they're whining and complaining about something.
|18 weeks 6 days ago||Hanging on by a thread?||
You're nuts. He is not hanging on by a thread. Michigan is fine, and is getting stronger week by week.
|18 weeks 6 days ago||Are you serious?||
Are you serious? For real?
Several comments . . .
Hoke and Nuss and Mattison wear big boy pants. Frankly, they don't give a crap what reporters think, and when reporters get their shorts in a wad. And they care even less what the tin foil hat fan brigade thinks. But man, crap like this marginalizes all of us in the fan base.
I guess the only positive I can take from this is that the football team is getting more and more pissed off, has circled the wagons, will take no prisoners, and will play with the proverbial chip on their shoulder throughout the year. I wouldn't want to face them this year. No way. If Funchess and Taylor and Morgan all come back healthy, and Pipkins and Ryan and Butt are fully conditioned and up to speed, watch out.
|18 weeks 6 days ago||Great resume||
As I reflect on where I was when 21, the age when Brady wrote the resume, and where life has gone since, for both him and me, you never can predict the future in the least. Things have an interesting way of turning out.
Obviously, he was supremely prepared and made the most of his opportunities. Carpe Diem. That's a great reminder and example for me and for most of us.
|19 weeks 22 hours ago||Wonderful article||
I always love reading these articles, even those that are "fluff." From Pahokee stories, to Brock and Elliot Mealer, to Zack Novak, to Beilein, it is inspiring and encouraging.
You know, we can't have our heads in the sand. But the sky is not falling, all is not bleak, and Michigan is headed in the right direction. The OL is improving, the receivers are getting experience, the DL is awesome, the LB's solid, and the secondary is going to be fine. Our recruiting is great, and things will only be better next year.
There are definitely things I don't like about Dave Brandon's decision making and possible price gouging. However, he gets a big pass in my book because of his support for Brady Hoke. I completely, totally, absolutely believe that the worst possible thing that could happen at Michigan is ANOTHER coaching transition. It is obvious that the players believe in Hoke and his staff. You can tell this is the case in three easy ways. First, the retention of current players is astounding. The current team believes. Second, retention of committed recruits. They are not bailing on Michigan. And I don't mind that Campbell is gone, and there were extenuating circumstances because of Damien Harris's coach's prior relationship wtih Borges.
This is turning into a rant: I'll just stop, and say that I'm always glad for positive, uplifting, encouraging, inspiring stories about Michigan and it's players and coaches.
|19 weeks 1 day ago||Great Article||
Zach was an incredible player for maximizing the limited athletic ability and talent he had. What a great guy to have on the team . . . I know it is borderline racist to say "grit" etc., but he is the kind of player it is critical to have on a team. Miss him.
|19 weeks 1 day ago||I joke about Ohio||
I joke about Ohio, but the honest truth is, there's beauty everywhere, including Ohio. I'd love to spend time on the Islands in Lake Erie. And the hills and valleys and Appalachian areas down south are gorgeous. I enjoyed time in Amish country about an hour or so south of Cleveland last summer. I actually love staying with my sister-in-law in Cleveland, who lives about 50 feet from Lake Erie, and can watch the sunset almost every evening in the summer. Cleveland, while with significant struggles, has a very different feel to me than the Chicago area, where I live.
|19 weeks 1 day ago||I'd be angry too||
I'd be angry too, if I lived in Ohio. Corn, flat and boring, rust belt abandoned factories, depressing. I guess the anger is a good thing for the football team, but yeah.
|19 weeks 1 day ago||Good question||
Good question . . . will cease.
|19 weeks 1 day ago||Dave Brandon has spoken to this||
Everything is driven by TV and money. Because Michigan is a big draw in terms of viewers, ABC, ESPN, and the Big 10 Network pretty much dictate that Michigan will play at 3:30pm. This shifts a bit at the end of the season . . . Michigan will typically play at noon against Ohio and maybe the week or two before that. But 12noon starts in Ann Arbor from August through October are pretty much a thing of the past.
|19 weeks 2 days ago||MGoClimb asks an excellent question||
MGoClimb asks an excellent question. And I don't really know the answer. However, I'm going to go with the defense over the offense, i.e., Taylor and Wilson more than Funchess. But here are my thoughts.
|19 weeks 2 days ago||Depends on perspective||
It obviously was stolen. Sadly, too many people believe that taking something that someone inadvertently left is "free money," the "finders, keepers" kind of thinking.
|19 weeks 2 days ago||It's always about who you know||
I don't hate Coach K (although I dislike Duke.) But as said above, using access and connections is pretty much SOP in every business. I'm not surprised in the least. The playing field is not level, but it never has been, and never will be.
|19 weeks 2 days ago||Sad to see||
i feel a bit bad for Rawls. While it doesn't make sense, temptation is a hard thing. Who of us doesn't like free money? Two observations:
|19 weeks 2 days ago||Who are you a fan of?||
Who are you a fan of? I kind of get disgruntled former Michigan fans who are upset with Brandon and Hoke and the direction of the program. I happen to strongly disagree, but I get it.
But if you are "no longer a UM fan," then who are you a fan of? And why are you here at mgoblog?
I also understand going to a rival's website to see what they are saying and what they are up to. That's why some go to RCMB, and why I will go to Eleven Warriors for OSU info. But unless you are a fan of OSU or MSU or PSU or ND, I don't understand why you would dcome to MgoBlog.
I will always be a Michigan fan. It will wax and wane with other things going on in my life, and with the fortunes of the team. But I will always be a fan. If a game is on TV, and I don't have a pressing commitment otherwise, I'll be there to watch the Maize and Blue and cheer them on.
Honestly, I think Michigan is going to have a bright future, and it will be coming sooner than you think. We already see the OL improving greatly (I agree with Bronx Blue's take on this.) As they improve, both the RB's and Gardner will "improve." The WR's are going to get better with their route running. The biggest adjustment has been press coverage for the secondary, and as things sort out with Peppers and with Taylor and with learning what needs to happen, they're going to get on top of this. Honestly, as things turn around with turnovers, and all the different units of the team jell, we'll be seeing Michigan playing better and better, and winning more and more games. I can't predict 11 - 1, but I don't see it being outside the realm of possibility. And if that happens, will you be back on the bandwagon, or still disgruntled because we didn't win it all? Some people are never satisfied, and that isn't a good thing.
|19 weeks 3 days ago||Strong Coffee||
Strong Coffee. Black.
|19 weeks 5 days ago||Glad for Friday to be here||
|19 weeks 5 days ago||My son||
I'm looking forward to taking my son Kyle to his first game at the Big House this year. It won't be this game, because his own football game starts at 3:30pm (2:30 here in the Chicago area.) Kyle has never been to the Big House, and really wants to go. His season ends in early November, so hopefully we'll be able to make it up to a game sometime after that. I'm trusting, as several posters have noted, inexpensive tickets will be available on Stubhub or at the gate.
|19 weeks 5 days ago||Have really enjoyed this thread||
I have really enjoyed this thread. It is just wonderful to see coach Beilein succeed. And I hope your grad project goes well.
As regards the skill and strategy, you already have some great choices in the responses above. I think I would go with his flexibility and adaptability operating within his own framework developed over many years. The framework gives the structure needed to do well. The flexibility to adapt to player's (and coach's!) strengths within the framework is what allows Beilein to excel.
As regards one characteristic, I think it boils down to one thing. For John Beilein, basketball is a great job, and something he has been involved with for close to his entire life. He began playing as a boy, and made the team at Wheeling Jesuit College in West Virginia. But while basketball is important, it is not the most important thing in Beilein's life. His faith and his family are more important, and give Beilein perspective.
Perspective is something that is often lost. Beilein makes clear that there are things more important than wins and losses, more important than being the head basketball coach at Michigan.
For those interested in reading more, there is a great Mlive article from last November on the strenght of Beilein's Catholic faith.
The Mlive article actual is based on a more substantive Beilein interview with the Jesuit Post. This interview really gives a deeper understanding of who Beilein is, where he came from, and what motivates him.
Fans can be fickle. Sometimes it just is about "what-have-you-done-for-me-lately" and the win - loss record. I think that all athletes and coaches are aware of this. The depth of Beilein's perspective, his humility, his integrity, his dependence on God, his clear acceptance that there are things more important in life than basketball, allow Beilein to attract and keep a certain kind of player (for instance, Trey Burke and Jordan Morgan) and coach (Jeff Meyer, among others.)
|19 weeks 5 days ago||Link to article?||
Can you provide the link to article? That's something I"d like to read.
|19 weeks 5 days ago||I'd tweak this slightly||
The d-line is solid, yes.
Regarding Cornerback, the depth is deceiving. We need both Taylor and Peppers out there. If they are playing, along with Lewis, we can use the defensive scheme. (Also with QB's not as good as Gholson.) We have the above 3 guys who can manage the defensive scheme. If they are out, we can't use that scheme. If they are in, we play aggressive.
I think OL is ok, and improving, yes.
RB is the unanticipated disaster, and yes, Norfleet might be the best. This is terrible. Wish that Isaac's request would be granted, but won't hold out hope for that.
|19 weeks 5 days ago||You are correct, sir||
You are correct . . . in home visits scheduled. I conflated the fact that Dozier still needs to make an official visit in order to receive an official offer.
One thing is true, regardless. Michigan appears to truly be in the hunt for some very gifted players. IIRC, these are all top 25 type players, and we haven't been in the running for so many, although we did end up with Mitch for a couple years (grumble, grumble, NCAA, stupid rules.)
|19 weeks 5 days ago||Dollar Bet?||
I think your wagers have improved.
|19 weeks 5 days ago||Illinois and OSU Hurting||
Illinois is hurting with yet another highly rated recruit spurning Champaign. Sounds like Groce is kind of crabby about this.
OSU is also hurting . . . they missed out on the top three recruits in Ohio. Esa Ahmad just turned them down and committed to WVa and Huggins.Carlton Bragg left OSU out of his top 5, and Luke Kennard committed to Duke.
It is very hard to turn a program around. We are extremely fortunate that Michigan is doing such a great job of recruiting nationally, with three 5-star recruits coming for visits. I don't know the likelihood of commitments, but merely having Dozier, Leaf, and Battle on campus is great. If Beilein starts to sign goes of that caliber, watch out. I think we will then regularly be entering the recruiting and playing level common at Kansas, Kentucky, Duke, and Louisville.
|19 weeks 5 days ago||Better Title||
Much more descriptive title than "Maize Malaise" (although the rhyming and alliteration in MM is pretty good.)
Alas, I don't have wonderfully witty pictures or gifs to post, repetitively, although the others have been somewhat amusing.
Oh, and I'm definitely with the OP and Brian on many things (the season isn't over yet; Michigan might do very well; it doesn't make sense to fire Hoke if he wins all games sans ND, MSU, OSU; +2 SD on patience for Hoke; the future is bright and coaching transitions are absolutely horrible.)
Ok, here's an image that describes too much of the fan base:
|19 weeks 6 days ago||Don't care for the article||
Don't much care for the article. Agree that it is appealing to AA T&P crowd, and to some in the MMM crowd. (Mich Man Meme.) I completely, totally, believe Michigan is heading in the right direction. We're just not there yet. We are going to be better this year than last year, and better next year than this year.
I completely agree with Brian on the patience thing (two standard deviations north of many in the crowd) because another transition would be disastrous, disastrous, disastrous. There are no good options, and we need to stay the course.
I also think that with Hoke, Nuss, Mattison, and especially Manning, our recruiting is going to continue (short term) to outpace our performance. Recruiting and talented players are the lifeblood of a program. This recruiting theme is one of the major reasons a transition would be disastrous. It was bad enough losing Damien Harris (with cutting Borges loose.) I shudder to think what would happen with cutting ANY of our current staff loose
One other observation. I really hope that DB isn't stupid, and is chastened by his failures. Work to schedule good games, keep the prices stable, avoid corny shtick, and the program will be fine. DB has been a bit tone deaf. I do give him some slack, because as I think back to the old gold standard, Don Canham, he was kind of corny and progressive for that era of AD's.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||I don't know.||
There's at least two things involved.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||Very well said||
You articulated this much better than I did. I do NOT believe that mediocrity is the goal. I simply believe that Michigan is in the process of improving, and we won't really see this until 2015. Gutting the coaching staff, removing Hoke, would be disastrous, and possibly put Michigan in a worse place than it has EVER been. Thanks for your well written post.
|20 weeks 8 min ago||Fair enough||
I think we probably agree on a bunch of things.
What I don't know is Hoke's ceiling. My HOPE is that Hoke stays, and reaps the benefits, and is here at Michigan a long time. It is possible that with Hoke, we have a ceiling of mediocrity. But I think the jury is still out. At the very least, we need to get through this season. If we get through this season somewhere between 8 - 4 and 10 -2, we have next season, which will really nail down Hoke's legacy. At least that's what I think.
|20 weeks 17 min ago||AA T & P? Not for me||
AA T & P isn't for me. Not at this juncture. I mashed two memes together, and came up with a new meme to express my feelings:
|20 weeks 25 min ago||Brian captures my thoughts exactly||
Brian captures my thoughts exactly. No need to panic, at least not at this juncture.
|20 weeks 34 min ago||Could oblige||
Could oblige, but it's meaningless, all meaningless. We all make grammar and spelling errors. Chalk it up.
I reserve negbangs for mean spiritedness, for outright rudeness, for bullying, for calls to immediately change the coaching staff. (Off with their heads! Hire Jim Harbaugh! Hire Les Miles! Hire Scot Shafer! Hoke is over his head! Hoke is an idiot! It's all his fault! The sky is falling! The Ruskies are invading! The Chinese are coming!) Actually, on this whole angst about Michigan coaches, I just haven't read most of the threads. People need to calm down and get a life.
|20 weeks 1 hour ago||Re: Ty Isaac, could be game-changer||
Re: Ty Isaac, could be game-changer. IIRC we haven't heard definitively on the the appeal for Ty Isaac to play this season. Frankly, given what I've seen from both Green and Smith, I'd be absolutely thrilled to see Isaac get approval to play immediately, and to step in and make a difference immediately. We need a RB who can see holes, hit holes, and get some chunks of yardage.
|20 weeks 1 hour ago||Don't know about that||
Don't really know anything about the morals of the board. Don't know that they have been particularly or spectacularly immoral.
The morale, on the other hand, has taken a hit. Hopefully it will improve in short order.
|20 weeks 2 hours ago||Medicrority is not ULTIMATE goal||
Look, I don't want to settle for mediocrity at all. The goal is to continue to improve and get better all year, and to be great by next year. Just look at the depth chart: we will have EVERY SINGLE CURRENT STARTER back next year, and all but Glasgow and Miller the year after. I think they will do well, but they're still learning, and won't dominate this year. They won't blow a gifted DL off the line regularly. They won't create huge holes every game. They won't successfully pull, etc. As Space Coyote has said, OL is extremely difficult. All the starters are getting experience. And don't forget, there are 8 guys currently on the roster learning the ropes. (Kalis, Bosch, Dawson, Tuley-Tillman, Bars, Samuelson, Bushell-Beatty, Fox.) Even if half those guys flame out, some of them are going to get it, and get more playing time next year and the year after.
It simply is unrealistic to expect the OL to be able to regularly manhandle the likes of Sheldon Day.
Another thing: at least next year, we'll have Isaac at RB, if neither Green nor Smith really pan out. And Weber, if he enrolls early, might also be decent. I blame some of the running woes on the RB corps, not on the OL.
I don't know what kind of business you are in, but very few large organizations can improve to "excellent" from "poor" immediately.
|20 weeks 3 hours ago||Interesting perspective||
Amir, there is a difference between love of country and being political. Being political generally means that you are affiliated with or supportive of a particular party, whether Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Independents, Communists, Anarchists, etc. Regardless of political party, the assumption is that ALL parties are supportive of the United States of America, and the freedoms which we hold dear.
I'm sure it is obvious to you that regardless of party affiliation, the Office of the President, the House of Representatives, and the Senate have all at various times supported war and military action. Largely, such support is based on preserving and protecting the freedoms which are foundational to this country. Whether such action was wise or not (in many cases, probably ill-advised,) it was made by more than one party. Hindsight is always better than foresight.
Perhaps the most powerful recent example of the difference between loving our country and being political is the immediate response in the United States to the terrible action of terrorists in the 9-11 twin towers disaster in 2001. I visited the memorial myself this summer in Manhattan, and was deeply touched. Regardless of political party, citizens of our country denounced such despicable actions, and came together because of this. We were, if you will, "united."
Amir, I assume you yourself would likewise stand against the terrorist actions of 9-11, and gladly denounce them. You would do that, right? And if you wouldn't, I'd love to understand why.
I disagree with many people on this board about many things. But I think I stand with the vast majority in being appreciative of the freedom to vote as I desire, the freedom of men and women to be educated and go to school, the freedom to worship as I see fit, the freedom of assembly, the freedom to express views that are unpopular, the freedom for people of all races and nations to have the opportunity to work hard without fear of having their assets taken away on the basis of their race. I may disagree with you on many things, but I staunchly support the right of you to hold views and beliefs with which I disagree.
It would be hopelessly naive to think that these freedoms exist in a vacuum. Whether or not you support a particular military decision, in large measure, our military is there to preserve and protect such freedoms. And that's a good party of the reason why I and som many support those who serve in the military.
Full disclosure: my daughter is serving in the Navy, so I am hopelessly biased (and a bit cynical about what military service really entails.) Nonetheless, I appreciate the sacrifices made by ALL who serve in the Armed Forces.
|20 weeks 5 hours ago||Welcome home||
There's no place like home. Glad you can be home and enjoy time with your wife, daughter, and simple things in life. Appreciative of your service to our country, and defending the freedoms we take for granted.
I'm curious to hear what you've missed most, and some of the little things that make it "home" for you. When I was in Korea, a simple thing like getting a burger from Burger King was just a wonderful touch of "home."
Our daughter is in the Navy, and still in the States in training, but already misses home dreadfully, being a mere 12 hours away, but far from the comforts of the Midwest. She awaits her orders in the next month, and will be off in a Destroyer or Cruiser sometime within the year. I'm sure she will miss home and her husband and loved ones a lot. But honestly, my hat is off to all serving on the ground in the Army and Marines in the heat in a hostile area. You guys have it rough, and we can't really understand the half of it.
|20 weeks 5 hours ago||I saw and noted him on the field||
I saw and noticed Butt on the field. As Nuss & Hoke have said repeatedly, they are being very cautious and limiting how much he plays. How they determine that a play or two or five is ok, but more than that isn't . . . that I couldn't answer. Regardless, Butt played, albeit briefly, versus Notre Dame.
|20 weeks 1 day ago||Hate your post||
I hate your post and refuse to read all the comments.
The OL is improving significantly.
Call me an ostrich. Tell me my head is in the sand. But I do not blame this on Funk, or Hoke, or Nuss. I really don't blame it on Borges. It is taking time to build up our OL. With time, strength, skill, and experience, our OL will be good again. They'll even be passable this year. Just not good enough against the likes of ND and several other teams.
We are going to struggle against MSU & OSU. We could win every other game, including a bowl, and some people would still want Hoke and Funk to be fired, because we failed on the road against our three biggest rivals. That is crap, and will set Michigan further back yet again.
|20 weeks 1 day ago||Great News||
Thanks for sharing. Great to have some great news.
Must confess . . . I literally have not gone to a single board thread the last 2 1/2 days. Until this one. I don't have the energy or the desire to go through all the AA Torch and Pitchfork posts. Thanks for a bit of good news.
|20 weeks 4 days ago||Final ND Game Haiku||
|20 weeks 4 days ago||Looks like you have plenty of good advice||
My sisters and dad live in Evanston and Skokie, so I spend a lot of time there, and will be going to the game.
Parking: I typically just do street parking maybe a half mile from the stadium for free. Of course, you can get there early and park next to Ryan field if you want.
Food: plenty of good choices. Being a Chicagoan, I'm partial to Chicago style hot dogs. Of course, you can get good Polish sausage, brats, etc. Chicago has the largest Polish population outside of Warsaw, so you can do that. Plenty of Korean choices. Some decent kosher deli's and places for bagels in Skokie. Pita Inn in Skokie has great Middle Eastern food, and is always packed. Lots of good Italian food in Chicago area . . . another fast food choice for the area is good Italian beef sandwiches with giardiniera. There are lots of great places in Chicago as well, too many to choose from.
Lodging: Closer to game date, you probably can find some Chicago hotel deals downtown on Groupon.
Music: would have to know what you're interested in. Green Mill can be good for Jazz. You can check out the House of Blues to see what they have going. Park West is another club in the city with music.
|20 weeks 5 days ago||I'm just sad||
Sad to see the rivalry go away. I think I've attended more Michigan - ND games than any other rival over the years I've been a fan. I remember many of them fondly, and am just sad.
Things change, but as you get older, you hate to see some of the traditions lost. I remember inwardly scoffing at some of the MIchigan alumni when a whippersnapper of a student (duded up in their maize and blue checked pants, vests, beanies, and the like.) Now, I am one of them (not the tacky clothes, but an alum in his 50's with many memories.)
ND for me has always been special, because ND is a school I "could" have gone to. It is in our footprint. I like their campus. I like many of the things they do. OSU and MSU will never be in that category. There's something about a rivalry, a competition, with a peer that is different. I can scoff at OSU, and their truckdriver and buckeye wearing idiot fans. I can smirk at MSU, their barns with cows, their "Staee" and "Moran" insults, their clown posse lunacy. They will always be little brother to me, even if I never verbalize it to one of them. ND is different, and the single rivalry that in many ways has meant the most to me. (Yes, OSU is the ultimate rivalry, but I don't respect OSU the same way.)
There are other schools like ND. Stanford would be one. Texas. Sometimes UCLA and Washington. Northwestern could be, but they always suck at football.
So in the end, I mourn the loss of these games, and they won't be filled by SEC home and homes for me.
|20 weeks 5 days ago||Looked up GILF||
You know, I guess I'm glad to be naive and clueless.
And yes, condolences to her family.
|20 weeks 5 days ago||I'll never root for MSU||
I'll never root for MSU, but I do believe it is better for Michigan (and the Big 10) if MSU wins. So, I'm definitely with the neutral crowd for whom it is a "win win" regardless. Schadenfreude if MSU loses. (Tears of unfathomable sadness.) Better for Big 10 and Michigan if MSU wins.
Several other things. First, I really don't like Oregon that much, and honestly, would love to see them shut down, and the talking heads shut up.
Second, as I think of Hoke, he doesn't really give a rip. His focus is on Michigan . . . Michigan playing better, Michigan winning, Michigan being Michigan. Here's my rant: quit focusing on MSU (and OSU.) I suppose if you live in-state, you have an undying hatred for all things green. But it makes me want to roll my eyes. Michigan is doing great in recruiting, and Mattison will take no prisoners.
Third, I really don't want Michigan to back into the playoff, the way ND did with the MNC a couple years ago. If MSU and OSU are tough, and we beat them fair and square, awesome. If we can't beat them, why in the world would be want or deserve to be in the playoffs. I'm not about ducking solid competition.
|20 weeks 6 days ago||Well ok||
That's why you have depth. I wish him well, and hope that whatever the cause, his issues are resolved in a healthy way. The PR didn't say anything about school . . . is he taking a leave of absence from U of M, or simply from the football team? An "undertermined amount of time for personal reasons" sounds like he is going home, but this isn't clear.
|21 weeks 2 hours ago||Is it a one time penalty?||
I suppose, although it would be pretty odd, that if there was a 5 yard penalty or loss of down penalty, and that was it for the rest of the game, the coaches could live with that. A small penalty or price to pay for both to be on the field at the same time. Obv., wouldn't work if a penalty was assessed for every single play they were both on the field.
|21 weeks 2 hours ago||Uniform Number Question||
So, there isn't a place to put up a simple question with a simple answer. I went to the roster for Butt's number, and saw it is currently 88. While scrolling through the numbers, I noticed that there are quite a few numbers serving double duty on offense and defense. Here's my question:
In most cases, having both players on the field at one time is close to impossible. For instance, Poggi and Morris both have 7, but Morris will never play defense, and I don't see Poggi ever on the OL. So there is no possible confusion.
However, I noticed that both Justice Hayes and Jabrill Peppers have been assigned #5. Either this means that the coaches are planning for Peppers to never see the field on offense, or to never have Hayes and Peppers on offense on the same play. But if at some future time, they wanted Peppers in as a WR, and Hayes on the same play as a RB, what happens? Do they have two #5's on the field? Do they issue one of the two of them a new jersey? Just curious, and not worthy of a standalone thread.
|21 weeks 1 day ago||What about Cole?||
What about Cole? I think the reality is probably going to be:
Glasgow or Miller at Center,
Whichever three of Cole, Mags, Kalis, and Braden are able to fend Glasgow off, or conversely, sitting whichever of Cole, Mags, Kalis, and Braden most clearly improves the team by creating a spot for Glasgow.
The thing is, I believe that Glasgow is going to start on the OL. If Miller is good enough at centes, Glasgow will shift to another position on the line. We basically have six starters for five positions. Glasgow is the most versatile, and if anyone is injured, he could be the first one to fill the position.
|21 weeks 1 day ago||Can't judge from ASU||
You can't judge the OL and Funk from the ASU game. If the OL opens holes and dominates form Miami through Rutgers, holds its own against ND, PSU, and doesn't collapse against MSU, we can start talking about Funk.
The truth is, the cratering of OL recruiting under RR set Michigan way, way back. Borges dealt with this situation badly, but it was beyond Funk or Borges or Hoke to get much more out the OL last year. The only reason we are in a decent place is because Hoke (& Funk) have been given time. And yes, Nuss is simplifying in a good way.
|21 weeks 1 day ago||I'm fine either way||
I'm fine either way (posting, or being "scooped.") I almost always enjoy reading Michigan Monday, although last year got brutal in many of the games after ND. Regarding not putting it up myself, it really just means that I had a good labor day weekend, with more than plenty to do with family, kids, chores, church, and outings.
Regarding the content, there really wasn't a lot, through no fault of writer Tony Gerdeman. He summed it up himself by saying
I think we all agree that we'll know a lot more about Michigan after the likes of ND, PSU, and MSU. ASU was one of those twinkie games, a tasty snack, a sacrificial lamb. Both schools had a fine financial payday. Really, though, it is little more than a glorified scrimmage and a pre-season non-game.
|21 weeks 2 days ago||Time for Seth and mods to take some action||
Time for Seth and mods to take some action. They need to moderate this and video record it. Or, they could have a pregame lemon eating viewing party.
|21 weeks 3 days ago||Irrational Exuberance||
I'll always be a Michigan homer. The game yesterday was fun. But Michigan has a lot more to do to be considered a "great" team, imhe. There is some "Irrational Exuberance" going on here.
It isn't that I think they'll do poorly. I actually believe that 11 - 1 is quite possible. But to predict a sure victory in E.L., "write it in stone?" Based on curb stomping a clearly inferior opponent yesterday? I'm just not there. I tend to think that we're not good enough to run through every game with no losses, even though I'm not quite sure who will beat us. Although, I think the Spartans are more likely to beat Michigan than not.
I have consistently held that the OL would be a great improvement over last year, but not yet great. Yesterday showed us the possibilities. But the DL at both MSU and OSU is a different animal. We now have a fighting chance. But it is hubris and folly to think Michigan has proven much of anything with it's victory yesterday.
It is better not to get too high, nor too low, while still greatly enjoying the ride and the journey.
|21 weeks 3 days ago||Whoever Hoke & Nuss chooses||
Whoever Hoke & Nuss chooses. I guess my choice would be for the NCAA to approve Ty Isaac and for him to start, but I'm not holding my breathe.
|21 weeks 3 days ago||Ok, you've got me convinced.||
Ok, you've got me convinced. You are dogged, persistent, and persuasive. The Badgers will win, and that will change the perception of the B1G. The new SEC.
|21 weeks 3 days ago||I don't know.||
I don't know.
|21 weeks 3 days ago||Really? You have some strong feelings on this.||
Really? You have some strong feelings on this.
|21 weeks 3 days ago||Do you really think so? I'm not so sure.||
Do you really think so? I'm not so sure.