I did not make this headline up
|1 day 13 hours ago||You, sir, are welcome to be||
You, sir, are welcome to be on my lawn.
|1 day 16 hours ago||It was the Big Ten we were||
It was the Big Ten we were waiting on. Ferentz had made it clear-ish that he doesn't care about Urban Meyer's problems.
|1 day 16 hours ago||I like the Brady era sleeves||
I like the Brady era sleeves a lot, but I'm meh on more 'M's. Except for some of the uniformz what they've done with the away jerseys over the years hasn't bothered me. The one time I really got up in arms about the outfits was when they had to cancel the pre-gaming meeting for the trash tornado as everyone changed into the bumblebees. That time could have been spent rehashing the gameplan so we don't come out testing them deep in 45 mph winds.
|1 day 16 hours ago||Been planning an H4 on that.||
Been planning an H4 on that.
|2 days 18 hours ago||I like the Tom Izzo Excuse||
I like the Tom Izzo Excuse Factory. I love it when a coach whines about what's going on even if the same thing and worse is probably going on for the other team and 200 other teams besides. I love that he starts each excuse with a paralipsis: "this loss was my fault, it's on me, but their guys were holding and bumping a lot out there and it's hard to coach when the other team isn't following the rules and not getting called for it, but I got to coach around that it's on me I have to do better."
Coaches should be screwball fans all the time. That way fans won't be able to shame each other all the time by following A newspaper columnist's sense of "sportsmanship."
|5 days 8 hours ago||My point on Bolden was he OR||
My point on Bolden was he OR Ross could have redshirted. Gedeon absolutely could have since he was the 4th guy in a three-man rotation. Gedeon saw only a few snaps against Akron and though that game mattered, Gedeon's performance wasn't any better than we had out of the three starters. That was the year Morgan, Bolden and Ross were rotating in the MLB/WLB positions. They didn't need Gedeon to burn his redshirt.
The year before was a little different because Bolden was the early enrollee and most vocal guy on the unit, but Ross started passing him in late fall, and they made the decision to let them compete for the backup job behind Morgan. At the time and now I've been saying the same thing: redshirt ONE of those guys--whoever's behind at the last fall practice.
|5 days 15 hours ago||This part I agree with and||
This part I agree with and always did:
I kept using Wilson as an example. Even though he only played about 12 snaps that would make it into a statistician's list of plays, he was 2nd on the depth chart at deep safety and was going to be starting most likely the following year. You have to play him, even though he's a guy you would probably get a better 5th year out of, because the team needed him playing.
You're missing the 1 cent $20 hypothesis entirely. It's 1 cent for, say, 55% chance at $20. It's from a mindfuck that gets passed around emails and the like where people are asked if they'd take $5 now or $50 in two years, but there's a 10% chance they won't remember to pay it (and you could die, etc.). Most people take the $5 but that is mathematically the wrong decision, because our brains are wired for instant gratification. The point is you're giving up a cent if Marvin Robinson rather than Dymonte Thomas is your punt and kickoff gunner for a season, and that's worth it for a 55% shot at a 5th year starting safety Dymonte Thomas.
|5 days 18 hours ago||He relented on QBs and OL||
He relented on QBs and OL after I made that list.
We did refute the math. In fact we completely blew it up. The flaws in that argument we exposed are twofold:
1) 5th years are an option. So aftef four years:
Cycling more players through the program just to cycle them defeats the point of having more players coming through the program: more options.
2) Most of the 85 scholarships are not seeing significant playing time in any given season, so you are not using guys you were already not using.
The whole point of redshirting is you are giving up a miniscule amount of productivity for a shot a high level of productivity and no downside. He tried to argue this by saying coaches will hold onto 5th years to be safe but I showed over the last 20 years Michigan under various coaches let enough 5th years go unrenewed that Harbaugh would have to be dramatically more loyal/conservative than Carr for this to be a concern.
|6 days 11 hours ago||Isaiah Thomas. Not Isiah the||
Isaiah Thomas. Not Isiah the Piston -- the one who was with Phoenix until recently. Shorter, great feel for the game and decent offensive abilities. But I'm not the hoops expert so I bet you other readers can come up with better.
|1 week 9 hours ago||Don't forget Bacon. Oh man||
Don't forget Bacon. Oh man now I wish you'd done this. That could have been my presentation: we bring these kids in and don't tell Brian what's about to be pitched to him.
|1 week 1 day ago||I understood he wasn't but I||
I understood he wasn't but I don't remember where i got that from.
|1 week 1 day ago||Let me get my argument straight||
Conceptually we agree: I want minor conference champions to get an autobid, but I want them to draw a line between minor conferences and a wholly different level of competition that "Division I" no longer does.
What bothers me that a three-game winning streak in the SWAC earns that team a bid over a more deserving minor conference team that had a much better season. Murray State didn't lose from November 30 until a 1-point upset in the Ohio Valley Conference Tournament, which happened to be held in the home city of the team that upset them. But there's only one autobid for the OVC and precious few spots for at-large teams.
Michigan proved what it is this year against plenty of top competition while 15 seeds sometimes make surprising runs they otherwise would never had the opportunity to play.
The NCAA could throw more really good teams into the mix if it opened up some spots it doesn't need to preserve, and when there are two minor conferences so dramatically behind the other minor conferences, those autobids become low-hanging fruit. A great SWAC or MEAC season can still get a bid--and they have in the past. I just don't think the NCAA needs to (sometimes additionally) save a spot for a conference tournament that on average yields a team that would have six wins if it played in the MAC.
|1 week 2 days ago||Nevermind was posted 28 hrs before me||
From title my first thought was this guy was born Sept 24, 1991
|1 week 3 days ago||Lewan's twosie||
|1 week 3 days ago||Ojemudia forever!||
|1 week 3 days ago||Alan Branch killing things then walking away.||
|1 week 3 days ago||My first gif for consumption (none of these are memes shut up)||
|1 week 3 days ago||The time I changed Brian's avatar||
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|1 week 3 days ago||That one time someone read||
That one time someone read Dear Diary.
|1 week 3 days ago||Bythe got expensive as hell||
Bythe got expensive as hell and we can use Twitter for free. I hope Twitter gets better at it. Find me a new system that isn't more expensive than any sponsor should be asked to pay and I can try to sell it.
|1 week 3 days ago||I feel like Serville gets the||
I feel like Serville gets the A.J. Williams treatment around here. We mad that Trouba and Merrill left, and you can't get mad at freshmen for being freshmen, or Chiasson because he's Heiko's size, or Lohan because he's Lindsay's 6'5 cousin. But then here's a drafted senior who's 6'3 and over 200 (by now right?) who should be 1st pair by now and instead his game is still full of "argh." I think on a deeper team Serville should have gotten a look as a grind line winger. He's never been the guy I want back there, but he's a guy I think would do well chasing somebody super talented around the ice. He can skate fine.
|1 week 3 days ago||Nobody's arguing that||
Nobody's arguing that immediate starters should start. These are all arguments to immediately burn the redshirts of Matt Godin and Jeremy Clark and Jehu Chesson (OP has since backed off on QBs, OL and TEs) so you won't be tempted to bring them back in 2016, and so they'll be a smidge more motivated, and so Michigan can take a swings on recruiting six more guys after Andre Criswell.
You're making a blanket statement but where are the exceptions? What if a true freshman is indistinguishable from four seniors at his position? What if a true freshman slot receiver is a smidge better than your 2nd string slot receiver, and you use a slot receiver on 2% of plays? What if a highly athletic guy who played a different position than you plan to use him gives your punt coverage team an average 0.05 yards per punt over the course of the season?
|1 week 3 days ago||You could apply all of those||
You could apply all of those guys to every one of those answers. I just broke them up by position because there were so many. Read it as if I'm saying there's like a hundred seasons worth that we got back by ignoring each of your ancillary concerns. Or if you back off on TE and OL and QBs, there's 73 guys left, including Drake Johnson, Allen Gant, Chris Wormley, Jehu Chesson, Jeremy Clark, Matthew Godin, Tom Strobel, and Willie Henry who thanks to voluntary redshirts will still be around in 2016, or not if Michigan chooses not.
What about DL, for whom size and technique are huge? Or LBs who need to learn quick read/reactions? Or receivers, who stand out if they're ludicrous athletes but otherwise dramatically improve year by year with better routes and moves and understanding of coverages just like quarterbacks? Or safeties who are the quarterbacks of the defense these days and who modern offenses pick on the most? I'll make this same case for everyone but RBs and CBs to argue about whether they should give up their 5th years for all the other reasons.
If Ohio State has a weakness it's that Urban has a deserved reputation as a dishonest guy for pulling maneuvers like that. We shouldn't emulate bad things they do because they are sucessful at them.
The value judgements we're making are provable. Attrition is a relatively known rate (the 55%s are rare and speak to major things going on beyond the scope of a program for which redshirting is reguarly an option) , and an experienced starter's projected value to a team is calcuable as is the value of a spot special teamer. We already know a starter versus a special teamer is 20-to-1 because PAN says so.
The last shred of "you don't know" comes from "well coaches see things and players are motivated in ways you plebes don't understand." Three, four years ago I'd give you that, but I've spent the intervening time talking with lots of football guys and I call BUULLLLLLLLSHIT. Coaches want to win and keep their jobs (which is not the same thing as longterm program health). Players want to play, keep their scholarships, stay healhty, and make it to the NFL. Both groups include some of the most highly motivated people in the country. Players and coaches also plot just like any other groups of people: some are forward-thinking and others are very now-oriented. Defeating our psychology and doing the right thing is what we use hard things like math for. The team is best served by having better, bigger, faster, stronger, better coached, better prepared players and that's what redshirting gives you for pennies on the dollar.
Thirty more recruits every 5 years is yummy, but the value of extending the bottom of your recruiting class is far less than an option on a 5th year on your recruiting class. You presume because Michigan averages 3.7 stars that we'll get 4-stars, but every recruit is a guy you have to sell on the school and the program, and extending the class brings diminishing returns.
What you're getting is first to sixth guy(s) they were going to offer after Jason Foster ('96), Will Peterson (97), Deitan Dubuc, Greg Brooks, James Taylor, Jacob Stewart, Spencer Brinton, Paul Sarantos, Brandent Englemon, Grant DeBenedictis, Andre Criswell, John Ferrara, Marrell Evans, Justin Feagin, Teric Jones, D.J. Williamson, Tamani Carter, Reon Dawson, Brady Pallante, or whoever ends up being the last guy in this class. A few more swings even in that pool is bound to produce some good players--never a Heisman--but optional 5th years are dramatically better bets, AND they're optional, so if they're not better bets you can still go recruit the next guy down the list. At best you find an Englemon; some years you're offering the sixth guy you wanted after Andre Criswell.
What you're talking about are ONLY ancillary benefits. There are ancillary benefits of redshirting too: a year to get acclimated to college life and classes, less coursework in individual semesters (though this is offset at Michigan by NCAA's credit hour demands and Michigan's annoying habit of making high-level courses fewer credit hours, and that most 5th years graduate in December), a far lower chance of transferring, and for the player it makes him more worth the coaches' limited time.
The overwhelming evidence supports redshirting guys who won't be playing valuable snaps (Wilson played valuable snaps) because it's a 1-for-1 trade of a year when a player is of not much use to you, for a year when you can keep him if he's of use to you and don't have to if he's not.
And to address something from the thread above: Harbaugh's Stanford 80-percent retention rate times $15 = $12.00 = FOUR times $3.00.
Side note: stop saying Mike Hart when you want to point out a 3-star. Hart went to a tiny school in NY who popped onto their radars because he was suddenly shredding NY State records, and as soon as they saw his film Michigan was all over him despite having Dave Underwood, Jerome Jackson, Pierre Rembert, and Tim Bracken ahead, 4-star Max Martin in his class, AND 5-star all-everything Kevin Grady already committed for the following season. That was a weird under-the-radar thing that happens less often now that private (OLSM) and magnet (Cass Tech) schools recruit more. You aren't getting a potential Mike Hart when you take a consensus three-star, or a Jake Ryan for that matter. You get those guys by culling the lower ranks of high schools where standouts are beating up on future dentists and bloggers, and getting lucky enough to stumble upon the rare thing, know what you've found, and he wants to come to your school. Because Michigan got lucky once does not raise the chances that we will get even more lucky in a completely different scenario.
|1 week 4 days ago||and Ryan Mundy was only a||
and Ryan Mundy was only a medical redshirt. I was going for non sequitur
|1 week 4 days ago||You Said: "Most freshman that||
Here are 131 anecdotes of when you were wrong:
Zach Adami, Kurt Anderson, David Baas, Jeff Backus, Greg Banks, Ricky Barnum, Willis Barringer, Rondell Biggs, Mark Bihl, Grant Bowman, Eric Brackins, Tom Brady, David Brandt, Steve Breaston, Joey Burzynski, Tyrece Butler, Mark Campbell, Clint Copenhaver, Shawn Crable, Julius Curry, Markus Curry, Kenny Demens, Joe Denay, Carl Diggs, Perry Dorrestein, Scott Dreisbach, Kevin Dudley, Tyler Ecker, Brandent Englemon, Obi Ezeh, Juaquin Feazell, Jay Feely, John Ferrara, Adam Finley, J.T. Floyd, Steve Frazier, Jake Frysinger, Jeremy Gallon, Brendan Gibbons, Jason Gingell, Graham Glasgow, Cameron Gordon, Thomas Gordon, Brian Griese, James Hall, David Harris, Will Heininger, Leo Henige, Norman Heuer, Victor Hobson, Steve Hutchinson, Mark Huyge, Jon Jansen, DiAllo Johnson, Will Johnson, Bennie Joppru, Anthony Jordan, Cato June, Joe Kerridge, Mike Kolodziej, Jordan Kovacs, Adam Kraus, Mike Kwiatkowski, Shawn Lazarus, Kevin Leach, Matt Lentz, Jeremy LeSueur, Taylor Lewan, Jake Long, K.C. Lopata, Roy Manning, Tim Massaquoi, Michael Massey, Patrick Massey, Ben Mast, Tim McAvoy, Scott McClintock, John McColgan, Elliott Mealer, Zoltan Mesko, Andy Mignery, David Molk, David Moosman, Courtney Morgan, Mark Moundros, Jonas Mouton, John Navarre, Obi Oluigbo, Patrick Omameh, Mark Ortmann, Tony Pape, Dave Pearson, Dave Petruziello, Marcus Ray, Rob Renes, Joe Reynolds, Rueben Riley, Eric Rosel, Roy Roundtree, Dan Rumishek, Jake Ryan, Stephen Schilling, Michael Schofield, Bill Seymour, Jon Shaw, Aaron Shea, Demeterius Solomon, Glen Steele, Adam Stenavich, Charles Stewart, Jacob Stewart, Rob Swett, Sam Sword, Carl Tabb, Brian Thompson, John Thompson, Shawn Thompson, Fitzgerald Toussaint, Morgan Trent, Jerame Tuman, Jeremy Van Alstyne, Ryan Van Bergen, Jay Vinson, Quinton Washington, Steve Watson, Andre Weathers, Brandon Williams, Josh Williams, Eric Wilson, Pierre Woods, Chris Ziemann.
I'm sure after reading that your palm and your forehead are pretty sore, but please add an extra hard one for each Tom Brady Superbowl victory anway.
Those guys all started (or are expected to start) at least two games as 5th year seniors for Michigan, and were voluntarily redshirted as freshmen (or in Kovac's case, didn't even make the team).
|1 week 4 days ago||My rebuttal||
Darn. /drops mic.
|1 week 4 days ago||Here's the fisk.||
Wahoo fisked your article so thoroughly I initially didn't feel the need to rebut. I think you have a few small, situationally salient considerations that don't in any way constitute a complete argument. They're more like "that would suck if it happens" things.
To rebut your rebut:
|1 week 4 days ago||Ringer isn't a very good||
Ringer isn't a very good example since he was hurt that year. He also enrolled early in hopes of winning early PT. We can't really know whether they would have redshirted him otherwise. On one hand he was Larry Foote sized so obvious redshirt. On the other hand there was a ton of competition for WLB and with a spring under his belt he might have been right there with Hawthorne and Herron at the start of the season.
|1 week 5 days ago||nice research. Cernak said he||
nice research. Cernak said he was Harbaugh's backup in 1985. It could mean Zurbrugg was 2nd string but Zurb was not very good in '84 so it's plausible Bob passed him.
Anyway that's what i was.going on.
|2 weeks 18 hours ago||^This.We're more like 6||
We're more like 6 million in the offseason. When there isn't a coaching change it comes up in August for preseason and then dips every loss, with occasional blips for major recruiting news. Coaching searches are a madhouse. Bad seasons really cut into our numbers.
|2 weeks 18 hours ago||Not true||
I'm friends with Kyle Anderson's wife. Apparently he read this thread and said some of these guys weren't quarterbacks that year, and Anderson himself was on crutches in '85.
|2 weeks 18 hours ago||The people making the book||
The people making the book are the same scammers who caused us to take a massive loss on HTTV last year (and utterly wiped me out).
I don't care much for Webber either.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||It wasn't a hit piece; if you||
It wasn't a hit piece; if you don't believe me that my intention was informative regarding the state of the roster then I need to earn your trust better.
I can say quite definitively that Hoke's redshirt policy had absolutely ZERO to do with Hoke's diminishing success* over his tenure, because his tenure was four years and the period of effect on a redshirt decision is five years.
So when I say that this is all about setting expectations for 2015-2018, that's not just my opinion or some shade--it's fact. The redshirt decisions of 2011 affect 2015, the redshirt decisions of 2012 affect 2016, etc.
*He won a Sugar Bowl and fixed the defense. You can't say "no" success.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||We're kind of debating all||
We're kind of debating all over this thread now and sorry about that. In this case you're offering to sell us a year we already have.
The burned redshirt doesn't give you insurance against an injury. It's the opposite: a redshirt gives you insurance against the NCAA not giving your guy a medshirt because, for example with Pipkins, your year-long ACL injury happened two snaps too late.
It's the same philosophy as the bond: cash it in for a sure $1 now, or take a 30% chance it won't be worth anything in 4 years (and a 70% chance it will be worth between $15 and $25). The only difference is there's an added 1.5% chance that if you cash it now you might get zero now and get back the 5th year.
Another consideration is injuries ahead of him. If you redshirt him and later his freshman year his position group starts getting really injured, you still have the option to yank the redshirt. In bond terms, if your bond appreciates to $10 all of a sudden, and you need $10 right now for emergency surgery, you have asset either way.
Countess is a straw man. He wouldn't have redshirted in his circumstances because he won a STARTING job. Nobody's arguing you redshirt a starter or even a guy who's going to get substantial rotational snaps on the two-deep. What we're talking about is guy who's not on the two-deep and plays special teams and maybe a few garbage time snaps.
The lesson is the same: if you need him, play him. If you don't need him, redshirt.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||That article was not, by the||
That article was not, by the way, where the nickname "Lurch" came from. That was coined by David Malak in 2000 after UCLA.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Because we want to be||
Because we want to generate realistic expectations for Harbaugh's Michigan, and when we note that Hoke recruited good classes that stuck around that suggests those expectations either need to be really high or something else went wrong (e.g. the talent wasn't evaluated well).
Specifically, Michigan has 27 juniors on the projected 82-man. That is going to be hard to replace when they're out of eligibility in 2016, especially once attrition takes the 3-5 guys it usually does from other classes.
Also we've been mentioning the redshirt thing recently as an example of something Hoke was doing for Hoke reasons. I wanted to have one place where I really laid out the argument and supported it in evaluations made at the time the decisions were.
It also gives us a broader understanding of redshirting and its results.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I can't (and hope I didn't)||
I can't (and hope I didn't) say one was an obvious choice over the other. I picked an "either-or" in those but the point of the category was the coaches should have made a decision to choose one or the other (and I highlighted the one that was from a fan perspective the more likely).
In each case I said redshirt the guy behind unless there was a specific circumstance. Like in 2011 Michigan had nobody to generate extreme, drive-ending plays from DE except Clark, whereas they had a developed version of Beyer in Roh, so even if Beyer was ahead of Clark in his reads and responsibility, Clark brought greater value to the 2011 team and was thus the choice to play early.
With Lewis and Stribling, Jourdan was the more developed and played earlier. Stribling is a taller guy but weighed nearly the same as Lewis. They were neck and neck, but the coaches could have seen that Stribling at the time had more ceiling and Lewis had a higher 2011 floor. If they'd chosen Lewis instead of Stribling I'd have been fine with that. With any of the either/or's really. The point was they didn't need to play both if there was PT enough for one backup.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||So add that into the factors.||
So add that into the factors. It's a small chance of that happening. Anyway Hayes left in part because they fired Hoke; if you're Hoke in 2011 deciding what to do with a really skinny Justice Hayes who's behind a bevy of other options, you don't say "well if I get fired he might grad year transfer elsewhere so I'd better make sure he doesn't have that option."
Your point is valid only in that attrition of all kinds diminishes the projected value of a 5th year guy. It's the old bond gambit:
Say I offer you an MGoBond that is worth $5 if you turn it in to me right now. However you can also wait 4 years and turn it into me, and I'll give you $25. However there's a 30% chance I will have forgotten and tell you to eff off. Mathematically you should see this as on one hand you get $5.00 and on the other you get $25 minus 30% = $17.50--no contest. But your brain is wired to fool you into believing that you need your $5 now.
There's more to it because 82 scholarship limits and variable values, but in both cases you are looking at a substantially higher value in the future.
The 82 sholarshipo limit is irrelevant to this because you have an option not to renew a 5th year--he will be using up a scholarship for the first four years either way, and using one the 5th year only if he's worth it to you.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||But the basis on which I said||
But the basis on which I said to redshirt Taylor was that he wasn't going to play as the sixth cornerback, meanwhile he had a frame that could add weight and could project as a possibly good 5th year senior.
It's a value prop. Ray Taylor playing behind Hollowell in 2011 provides an insignificant value to the team, since he didn't get any valuable experience and didn't contribute beyond replacement. Freshman Ray Taylor was right in front of the coaches so they should have been able to recognize his value to the 2011 team. By playing him then we got close to zero value for him in 2011 and zero value for him in 2015. By choice they could have made it zero value from him in 2011, and the potential for signficantly higher value in 2015, with the option to replace him if he wouldn't provide it. There is a chance he may transfer or get injured or not be good so lop off percentages in making the decision, but minor percentages that don't really move the needle. Most likely you'll still have the guy after his 4th year, at which point you can make a decision on him.
All else is irrelevant to a decision made in 2011.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Awesome. I'll email you.||
Awesome. I'll email you.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I always derp that. I also||
I always derp that. I also have to double check myself on every Jerome/Jeremy Jackson. Fortunately I did so before posting this one.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah we don't know. It still||
Yeah we don't know. It still matters; if Hoke was on the recruiting trail handing out promises of freshman playing time to guys who weren't capable of it, that hurts the team.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I think the point is I||
I think the point is I painstakingly went back through our records of situational details, as well as being on anybody's short lists of people who obsessed over them at the time.
That's why you're on MGoBlog: we are crazy about the situational details. This whole article was a "remember the situational details before we judge" study.
/throws up hands.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I tried to check all of these||
I tried to check all of these for hindsight by re-reading the relevant HTTV (post-spring) articles and Brian's pre-season (post-fall) articles to remember exactly where the position battles stood at the opening of those years.
For example Jake Ryan in 2011 was starting out as the backup to Cam Gordon, but flashed ability in a standout spring in which he demolished his helmet. Gordon played Spur the second half of 2010--not a hugely different position. Either brought more to the position than Beyer, who was being used as a rush end from the start. Clark and Beyer were always in a pile together, just as Ross and Bolden were.
There is a certain type of coachderp that guys like me complain about consistently because coaches can't give us the straight answer that explains it. I suspect in a lot of these cases Hoke make recruiting promises, or like in the case of Ross and Raymon if the guy who should have redshirted was outplaying the other guy, and the other guy had a better case to not redshirt. Since I don't have access to those conversations I have to point at the decisions that damaged the team. Before we indict Hoke for all of them, however, I recognize that he might have had some good reasons that he can't publicize.
Carr had plenty of head-scratching non-shirts too. One I'm familiar with is Braylon, because I semi-know him (he owns a restaurant in LA with a friend of mine) and got the story (apparently this was known already: he told Carr he wanted the #1 jersey and Carr said earn it and he said I can't if you have me on the bench and Carr gave him a list of things he had to do to get off the bench).
|2 weeks 2 days ago||eh no.||
On class normalization: Schools sometimes take fliers they play right away to fill an immediate gap but that's not the same as, say, taking Da'Mario Jones then burning his redshirt so he won't steal a scholarship in 2017. For the same cost you can redshirt him then if he doesn't pan out you don't renew his 5th, which is standard practice.
The ultimate effect of Hoke's burned redshirts is we now have 27 guys on the roster whose elibility is up after 2016. When you add even a smidgeon of normal attrition Michigan would need to take THIRTY guys in the 2017 class to just hit 82 scholarships. If his plan was to normalize class sizes, he would have played everyone from the 2011 class and redshirted every man possible from 2012. He did not that.
On wasting a 5th year to know NOW: They have five days of practice for every game they play, plus fall practice plus spring practice. And the game situations they used them in were not very telling. You do that if you need to play a guy next year and he's already #2 on the depth chart, e.g. Wilson. But ensuring you'll have no upperclassman safeties in 2017 to get seven snaps worth of data points on which safety will be #2 perhaps in 2014 is a massive waste.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||You don't get Mike Harts for||
You don't get Mike Harts for free. Michigan is looking at either Blake Countess as a press corner (we didn't like that very much last time for REASONS) or possibly their 5th year grad transfer. If they had Taylor they probably don't take Wayne Lyons. Maybe Lyons is good, but Taylor knows this system, knows the program, and after years of studying exactly that question we determined he IS good.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I did a study on this at his||
I did a study on this at his commitment.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||They're trying guys out at||
They're trying guys out at different spots what I've heard, especially fullback and tight end. Folks are going to jump all over these as the leak out because in several cases it seems to suggest guys who aren't in line for PT at their recruited positions aren't going to work out.
That will indeed prove to be the case in a few spots, because so it goes, but separating those from dudes looking to get a little more early playing time is really hard given the nature of the the pre-break practices. The staff was trying to see what they have, and were encouraging anybody to try out for snaps at positions of need, particularly the TE/H-back roles Harbaugh loves, where they're thin (Khalid Hill is coming back from injury and they're rightfully being careful).
In some places it's possible to get the wrong idea. Winovich is a good example; he tweeted that he's trying out H-back, and immediately I thought of the thin depth chart at LB after this year. But consider Winovich will never project as an MLB type--he's ideally a 4-3 under SAM, or a 3-4 "Cat" OLB. If he was larger I'd wonder if they could move him into the WDE competition, but at 230 lbs that's sub-optimal. Snaps after spring break will be going disproportionately to the 1st and 2nd teamers, and Winovich's position currently has Ross, RJS, and Gant using up the 50% of snaps that the SAM is not pulled for the nickel. It's also a more instinct-driven position than the middle LB spots, so losing development time there isn't as much of a concern.
His best asset is that Jake Ryan-esque quick burst. Translated to H-back, remember that power running is essentially a race to the point of attack. A great blocking H has to explode off the snap and often get across the formation before an edge attacker (DE or OLB) can flash and squeeze down the hole. The more explosion from your H-back, the bigger the hole.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||If Rosenberg didn't condemn||
If Rosenberg didn't condemn it, it must be okay.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||T-shirt in the works.||
T-shirt in the works.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Gardner wouldn't be eligible||
Gardner wouldn't be eligible this spring even if he was enrolled since he has secured an agent and taken royalty payments. Also I expect every person in Ann Arbor has bought him a beer by now.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||That and I know a guy at the||
That and I know a guy at the practices. He posted here before and got in trouble but I find places to leak that which he offered for leaking.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||You're talking about more of||
You're talking about more of an under and yes I believe they plan on having and under or 3-4 look with Wormley at SDE and RJS at SAM and Ojemudia/Marshall maybe in a two-point stance.
In their base over formation the SDE takes on the Y tight end and sets the edge, and the C gap is usually the responsibility of a linebacker. So you're not looking for a plugger there so much as a guy who can get up field in a hurry to generate lots of sacks and hurries, while being bih enough that the offense can't get a double wide hole by doubling him with the TE and OT. Shilique Calhoun and before him Will Gholson put up big sack numbers from SDE. That's what they're hoping to get out of Taco.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||yes. reworded.||
|3 weeks 1 day ago||It's leet for Ha or Harbaugh.||
It's leet for Ha or Harbaugh. I asked readers for a new name for Hokepoints and this is what they came up with. We split Hokepoints into a general football X's and O's and history and whatnot column (H4) and a let's play with stats and spreadsheets column (Jimmystats)
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I do remember it and got a||
I do remember it and got a refresher while doing this article. Luck's recruiting story happened mostly his junior year, so while he was a 2008 recruit his stories were rolled up into the 2007 class articles. That's why I remember it better than I would otherwise--Mallett was in those articles.
He went to a school in Houston that's called the Spartans and wears green and white and uses MSU's logo. However he wasn't very "Texas." Luck was born in Washington D.C. (his dad was a former West Virginia AD) and grew up mostly in Europe (London, Frankfurt, forget where else) so he wasn't a UT or A&M fan like his classmates. Actually he liked soccer--his dad started the MLS team in Houston. If any school had an inside track it would have been West Virginia, but Rich Rodriguez wasn't an Andrew Luck kind of offense and Rich Rod wasn't going anywhere (...until 8 months after Luck committed to Stanford).
He did go to Texas's camp but didn't get an offer--they were all in on Garrett Gilbert (and OC Colt McCoy's little brother). They offered RGIII as an athlete and didn't offer Johnny Manziel because they were looking at him as a defensive back.
From the get-go he wanted to go to an elite academic institution, and was looking at things like Rice and Northwestern (and Purdue). Michigan didn't get into it because we were courting Mallett, and Threet was transferring in, so Lloyd expected they could get by with Weinke in the 2008 class unless like Les Miles or Mike DeBord or Kirk Ferentz or whoever took over Michigan wanted someone else.
Alabama was recruiting him heavily and they were probably the stiffest competition at the start (Saban was in year 2) but Luck was making comments like he didn't want to go somewhere that he'd need to sign autographs in class and dropped them behind the trio above. Stanford was the most likely destination for him before they signed Harbaugh, and once they did, Jim made a visit to Houston and got mustard on his shirt and Luck loved him immediately and it was a fait accompli. Luck officially committed in June 2007 after visiting and meeting Bill Walsh and Joe Montana, though Stanford was the presumed choice since signing day.
If other coaches tried to recruit him after he committed it didn't register in recruiting news, probably because once Stanford upset USC that year it was obvious Harbaugh had them on the right track, and he was walking into a situation where if he didn't win the job earlier he'd be a redshirt sophomore when Pritchard cleared out.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||They had some injuries and||
They had some injuries and yes the receiver corps was falling off. The biggest thing I think that happened to their offense this year is the running game fell apart with a lot of injuries and holdouts and new offensive linemen, and first Gore and then several other backs got hurt. Harbaugh's offense really functions on the ability to manball and when they could no longer run as well defenses got merciless, attacking Kaep off the snap more often. He's a decent QB but not a great one, and once he started getting whacked a lot per game his efficiency dropped from top third of NFL QBs to just under average, and he got caught with more INTs.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Invest in Harbaughs.||
Invest in Harbaughs.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Thanks. Wasn't it Kelvin||
Thanks. Wasn't it Kelvin Grady who caught that pass though? I remember he caught two yards past the 1st down marker and was hit mid-air, which pushed him back those 2 yards because he was a slot bugger.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Year?||
<--- Groves '98. Scriptor, ski team.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I like sports.||
I like sports.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I would have answered white||
I would have answered white and gold and and wouldn't ever have imagined people saw differently. I saw the black shawl-like thing in the background and ruled out any black that way.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I'm a white-gold extremist apparently||
Even now at the far right I see only a white and gold dress that is being put through a blue shadow filter.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||And $100 gift certificate. I||
And $100 gift certificate. I think it's more like "if you're buying a house use this guy."
FWIW our email subject thread was "HATS ARE FOR CLOSERS"
|4 weeks 18 hours ago||There's another quote I||
There's another quote I skipped but I love. He was asked if Alex Smith is questioning his confidence and Harbaugh said:
"It's just a lot of gobble gobble turkey."
Asked to clarify he was like:
"You know: just gobble gobble gobble turkey from jive-turkey gobblers. You know? It paints a pretty good picture. He's a pretty confident guy."
|4 weeks 23 hours ago||No Sharp||
the reason for the no sharp rule us he practices annoyance journalism. Drew just writes stuff to make people say omigod did you see what this asshole said?!?
Nobody should reward him or the freep for that by playing his game. Just ignore Sharp.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Because it comes off the||
Because it comes off the machine easier if it's flat and people can then make their own bend. I know leaving it flat with the sticker on became fashionable at some point (is it still or is that dead please say it's dead) but the point is for each person to bend to the shape of his/her forehead. The more round your head, the more you bend the brim to fit it. Yay: hats that fit!
This has been Seth's Lessons in Hats. Tune in next week when we show you how to remove the mesh inside to get a worn-in old-fashioned look.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||The scoop on the New Era Hats||
I just got off the phone with the owner of Moe's and Underground and got the story on the Bo Hats.
Hats from before last year have the logo on the back, but all the new hats (i.e. all those in stock and available) have the logo on the side. The picture on UGP's website that the OP posted was one of the old ones--there was a New Era logo on it; just not visible in the photo--but they were updating as we spoke. This is the hat in the store right now:
|4 weeks 1 day ago||An average of 35 yards of||
An average of 35 yards of field position per game.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Dave Brandon found a job,||
Dave Brandon found a job, everybody!
|4 weeks 1 day ago||I think you failed to give||
I think you failed to give all the respect due. Gender itself doesn't determine whether someone can hack it; hacking it determines whether you can hack it.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||UGP has had it for awhile||
I'm sure M-Den had the New Era one too. I've been eyeing it forever.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Harbaugh.||
|4 weeks 2 days ago||^this.||
|4 weeks 2 days ago||You kids and your boomboxes||
You kids and your boomboxes
|4 weeks 3 days ago||O'Korn is official. I think||
O'Korn is official. I think he's already enrolled
|4 weeks 4 days ago||There goes the shutout.||
There goes the shutout.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||They haven't written a song,||
They haven't written a song, or started writing a song. They're doing all the branding--you know, the important part--first.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Is your friend named "Michael||
Is your friend named "Michael Elkon"?
|5 weeks 1 day ago||We absolve Brandon for not||
We absolve Brandon for not dealing with Gibbons when the incident occurred, so...
Bill Martin is a mixed bag--some of the things he did and said are wonderful and worth canonizing. But just from what's out there publicly, the Gibbons thing had to have come across his desk right when Martin was on his way out, and whatever he did with it it wasn't the right thing to do with it.
This is why I'm always hedging when it comes to Sailboat Willie. I feel like there's another shoe that will drop eventually.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||You are not reading it||
You are not reading it correctly then.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||You're going on my||
You're going on my list.
(also I'm terrified of the Carvin Johnson scenario, where he was waffling then read what people thought of that on an internet board).
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Ace wrote a post to||
Ace wrote a post to explicitly says OSU isn't oversigning. Brian wrote in another post that OSU isn't oversigning. I mentioned in two posts and on several Michigan and Ohio State boards that Ohio State isn't oversigning.
Under exactly what definition of "get killed" do you include all of the site's full-timers going out of our way to exonerate Ohio State and tell our readership to bark up some other tree?
I like it when we get opposing perspectives on here, but you keep turning up in these threads in full battle armor, looking to fight anyone who shows up on a battlefield that was not only immediately conceded, but which Michigan fans are helping you defend.
Obviously there are going to be Wolverines who expect the worst when it's Ohio State, because Michigan-Ohio State. I bet it would take me less than 35 seconds to find a Buckeye fan on your site or 11W who equates what Urban did to Weber with signing O'Korn. But if the guys who run the site already said that's stupid why would it help for me to go on and tell them so?
|5 weeks 1 day ago||I hate saying so because it||
I hate saying so because it starts the speculation (PLEASE SPECULATE PRIVATELY AND DON'T PUT NAMES ON THE BOARD), but there are two more likely transfers we know of (things can always change of course), and a few more hanging on to see where they stand after spring practice.
I think there's at least one or two spots available before we start asking guys like Kerridge to not get a scholarship this year.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah but if he transfers and||
Yeah but if he transfers and plays elsewhere, I still count it as a transfer.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||What's vague and meaningless||
What's vague and meaningless about the chart?
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Well we can't really say||
Well we can't really say anything about Brian Cole and Alex Malzone yet so they're excised from the stats.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I had him in the data, but||
I had him in the data, but not in the list. Fixed.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Unpopular things||
I thought we were done with these. A thread to rip on other readers belongs in the bad ideas for threads thread.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||They'll never pass it but||
They'll never pass it but this was John Bacon's proposal to get college sports truly back to college. The theory goes that pro leagues will take the kids who aren't cut out for college and college won't really mind the slightly lower level of play.
It would have to come with an increase in scholarship limits since many teams can't field a two deep with just their freshmen. It's also not fair for spring sports since they'd be almost half way to their degrees by the time they're eligible.
One and done is an NBA rule to protect themselves from bad investments and to have Calipari developing their prospects for free. The NCAA doesn't benefit except in the star power of being a minor league for guys like Okafor who could be in the NBA now.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||You are correct that the||
You are correct that the university should claim rights but...
1) It won't ever get that far
2) That wouldn't deter this group, who are looking for resume builders more than capital.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah, I'm a big C&H fan and||
Yeah, I'm a big C&H fan and used him because it was that ridiculous. These kids are shooting names off of musicians they want to approach with no concept of whether they'll want to participate.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Was saying "we love animals"||
Was saying "we love animals" with a flourish.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Nobody here ever claimed that||
Nobody here ever claimed that Craig James killed five hookers while at SMU. For the record I do not personally believe Craig James killed five hookers while at SMU.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||That's totally fair. I hope||
That's totally fair. I hope what I've done is attack purely the idea, not the people, but in this case the two can blur because the idea is that the type of person who cares more about marketing a thing than the quality of the thing shouldn't be involved in the making of the thing. It's tough to make this argument without describing the type of person, so I tried to do it by simply listing their actions.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||I took out Hokemaniacs but||
I took out Hokemaniacs but since I figured out how to play with those earlier this year, I've left a lot of the defunct blogs up because I can't bear to part with them. BGS, Yost Built... they should never die.
Some blogs aren't updated very often but are timeless, for example the UMTailgate guys (and of course Joe Pichey's blog).
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Circular argument.||
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Not a member?||
|5 weeks 6 days ago||...not including any sentence||
...not including any sentence with the word "stud" that is not referring to a horse or a piece of wood in a wall.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Unpopular opinion||
No more of these after the last one, which is where all other ideas for unpopular threads should go.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||No shit. I'm going!||
No shit. I'm going!
|5 weeks 6 days ago||I appreciate your reply, but||
I appreciate your reply, but I disagree that any slack should be cut here.
There is school spirit, and then there's trying to capitalize on school spirit to serve one's own ego. Nobody doubts the sincerity of Dave Brandon's fandom--we wanted him removed from any decision making because he doesn't have the capacity to separate his fandom from his ego. I've read the proposal and heard the spokesmen for this golem, and they all seem to very much have the Dave Brandon problem. Using "extremely unique" is a classic symptom.
I noted at the top of the article that they don't intend to "replace" The Victors, and also had a paragraph where I explain there is ample room for more song traditions. These complaints were never about the intentions of the project leaders; they're about the project leaders' clear blindness to the possible ramifications of their self-glorified quest.
What they're doing is trying to recreate what is essentially a very successful organism.
Humanity has spent its entire history in worship of the wonder we sense in the existence of chordata. Imagine then if an American company were to announce its intentions to direct a collaborative effort between the entertainment and agricultural industries to create a new type of perfect sentient animal called Hyumins, and look: we already have the logo drawn up and a video crew shooting us as speak to collaborators. Sure, you might say, this creature could turn out to be loveable. Sure, you might say, this is one of our nation's companies showing that spirit of innovation that drives us.
But given its creators serioulsy have no concept of how life is formed, nor apparently enough appreciation for the sentient life already in existence, it's perfectly rationial to tell these people to get the hell out of the animal-making business. And it's perfectly understadable, despite their protestrations otherwise, if folks are worried that the intent is for Hyumins to replace humans.
The one good thing that could come of this is it gives us a chance to rationalize why we love the lifeforms that we do. That's what my column was about: the golden rarity of a truly great piece of art that captures the popular spirit on its timeless merits.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||More like classic||
More like classic progessives. If we ran the world in the late 1880s we would have run McKinley out on a rail a la Dave Brandon, printed "It's Happening" bollers for Teddy Roosevelt, and spent the rest of the decade shouting at people who said the forward pass won't work in the Big Ten.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Close allies of the Militant||
Close allies of the Militant Grammarians, and have a working partnership with Les Assassins des Fauteuils Rollents
|5 weeks 6 days ago||^THIS!!!||
I had a deleted section that shared this sentiment exactly. It was too tangential and I was getting away from The Victors enough as it was, but I had this whole thing about how they manufacture hits out of the same formulaic four chord progressioc, and manufacture pop stars out of the same act/body type/persona. In Europe where the man doesn't have near the control of what gets marketed musically, everybody flocks to Oasis or Coldplay or Muse*, not because they're extraordinary, but because popularity itself is part of the drug.
*i.e. Radiohead if they stopped at Pablo Honey, The Bends, or O.K. Computer, respectively.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||No, I was there when this hit||
No, I was there when this hit the internet and it was instantly the most awkward and mockable thing since Al Gore tried to share a precious moment with Tipper. Ask BiSB, who was in South Bend at the time, how it went over with contemporaries.
|6 weeks 13 hours ago||PLLEEEEEASSSEEE send me a||
PLLEEEEEASSSEEE send me a copy of the Lloyd Carr's Secret Playbook. I remembered it for a long time and finally got around to asking Brian if that was him and he said no but he remembered the guy who did it.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||OMIGOD HOW DO THEY KILL DARTH||
OMIGOD HOW DO THEY KILL DARTH MAUL IN THAT MOVIE HOW WHY WTF GYAH GEORGE YOU ARE SO BAD WE WERE HAPPY WHEN YOU SOLD OUT TO DISNEY THAT BAD.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||It's not ignored, but nobody||
It's not ignored, but nobody knows the words. Brian once suggested singing "Robinson, Robinson, Robinson oh Robinson. We'll always Robinson Oh Robinson (and the maize and blue).
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Hoke recruited one superstar||
Hoke recruited one superstar QB per year and had that guy be the first recruit of a class. That quarterback then became a rock star recruiter for his class.
It was a strategy that netted very good recruiting classes, and had guys like George Campbell committed at one point. On the other hand it needed success to maintain itself, and it needs the rockstar QBs to work out.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||From the photo it appears he||
From the photo it appears he was doing it from an Ace 2TE set. This makes him more of a Bielema-style douche than a Harbaugh-style douche. Either way, I respect this type of douchitude in my athletes. Douche-on hyper-competitive men who destroy your bodies for my entertainment.
+1 to Cardale Jones in my book.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||I must admit your name is||
I must admit your name is kind of annoying. In my NCAA dynasty my awesome, Heisman-contending dual threat quarterback for Michigan was "John Ross" and I had to mentally call him "Non-Buckeye John Ross" his entire career.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Please stop negging this guy,||
Please stop negging this guy, people. He is correct. There is no evidence of oversigning here. Three over at this point is a sign of normal attrition. Let's stick to ripping on Ohio State for things they are actually guilty of.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||The appearance of impropriety||
The appearance of impropriety is the only potential fallback. Both are independently and extremely qualified for the positions they were hired for. 7 on 7 organizers are highly sought after; MSU hired one last year and people wondered if they were doing it to get the inside track on Brian Cole. Getting a former Harbaugh associate is little different than hiring Ty Wheatley: yes his son happens to be a recruit at a position of need, but the Michigan connection and his work in the same role for an NFL team established his credentials as far beyond the benefit of a recruit. As for Paramus's coach, he left the school for a Rutgers job. It would be pretty damn hard to prove Michigan offered that position as payment for recruits when he was offered it while unemployed.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||The appearance of impropriety||
The appearance of impropriety is the only potential fallback. Both are independently and extremely qualified for the positions they were hired for. 7 on 7 organizers are highly sought after; MSU hired one last year and people wondered if they were doing it to get the inside track on Brian Cole. Getting a former Harbaugh associate is little different than hiring Ty Wheatley: yes his son happens to be a recruit at a position of need, but the Michigan connection and his work in the same role for an NFL team established his credentials as far beyond the benefit of a recruit. As for Paramus's coach, he left the school for a Rutgers job. It would be pretty damn hard to prove Michigan offered that position as payment for recruits when he was offered it while unemployed.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Please direct all prayers to||
Please direct all prayers to the intent to blow gods. Like at the Joe, MSU games tend to be decided by how well the refs can spot a loose puck in whomever's crease.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||OR I could use the increased||
OR I could use the increased interest provided by Signing Day to hammer the message to recruits and the NCAA that you don't have to send an LOI to play college football. We also ripped on Graham Couch mercilessly for calling out players who hold signing ceremonies.
Note that our coverage was a sponsored liveblog in which multiple writers were making this point, plus commit posts for guys who newly flipped. Nothing about MGoBlog's coverage of NSD reinforced the notion that players must send in LOIs.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||I didn't write this post to||
I didn't write this post to call Urban a slimeball, and if I started trying to prove that it's all anybody outside our little world of Michigan fans might see.
I wrote this post to say that LOIs and Signing Day create a situation where college programs can screw over players, and that's wrong, and the players and the NCAA whose job is to protect them* can do something about it.
*Ha! True, but ha nonetheless.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Brian came up with an idea||
Brian came up with an idea that I support 100%: Non-binding Letter of Intent. A player can sign one at any time before the signing period ends and at that point there are no restrictions on contact for his chosen school (who could really use that contact to help prepare him for college and guide his academic career to that end), and all other schools are cut out. If he wants to take an official elsewhere, he opts out.
It lets students who are seriously done opt out of the process, and prevents players from committing to one school to hold their spot while courting others.
You are right that the LOI's intended benefit to the player is to end the recruiting process. The thing is it should do that instead of lock a kid into a school, and there shouldn't be an arbitrary time restriction on it.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||He could have done a scummy||
He could have done a scummy thing. I think a Michigan fan saying "this makes him scum hey everybody look how much he's scum" better have more than that to back him up.
Been chatting w/ the good OSU bloggers--the ones who'll at least consider the possibility that Tressel wasn't God and Urban isn't the best guy at things other than football coaching--and they seem to think Drayton tolk Urban he wasn't going to get the job. Everybody's waiting for information. Meyer met with a bunch of Ohio coaches today and said he and Drayton talked to Weber for 30 minutes, then only gave a "we have to move on" comment, which can mean all sorts of things but sounds to me like Weber hasn't and Urban intends to make him do so anyway.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||I don't know if Drayton told||
I don't know if Drayton told Urban he had a foot out the door, or what Urban might have done in that situation. We love to demonize him because he's Ohio State's coach and that position entails trying to screw Michigan, but I find it as hard to believe Urban would okay an obvious bait-n-switch toward that regard as I do to believe Drayton didn't know on Wednesday there was a good chance he'd be taking another job.
I think Urban is on the slimy end of recruiting, and that he internally justifies this by a real belief that other coaches are being just as slimy and that the players are truly better off playing for him. But it's a big leap to go from "slimy for a college football coach" to "a slimy salesman," who doesn't think past closing the deal.
|7 weeks 14 hours ago||Because right and wrong are||
Because right and wrong are not a measurement of the penalties.
Scholarships are--and a court confirmed this--a form of payment for services under a contract. So first consider the contract:
Oversigning is inherently a bait and switch: the coach knowingly is signing more workers than he is legally allowed to keep, yet those players still have to sign the non-compete, so when the coach is done culling those he wants from those he mis-scouted, the ones he dumps are S.O.L. The agreement is already exploitative; when you add that his coach is now actively looking for reasons to break contract--in fact MUST find those excuses in the next few months--it's highly unethical. The whole enterprise is built on a free education--particularly valuable to those who aren't going to play in the NFL--as form of payment; if a coach knowingly puts himself in a position where must screw his workers out o their payment, that is wrong.
|7 weeks 19 hours ago||The injuries appear legit,||
The injuries appear legit, and until this year Urban was never an oversigner. He's not a particularly ethical person, but his record is good on this. If the players he medicaled decide to transfer and play elsewhere, then you've got a smoking gun of oversigning attrition. For now I think we need to wait and see what the state of his roster is in.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Great catch; thank you. I||
Great catch; thank you. I should have known that since he's from Troy and we played against them. He was a really tall lanky guy in high school--they listed him at 6'4/245 as a recruit, but was up to 260 by the time he got to Michigan.
He doesn't change the stats much; he had two starts at Michigan. Strangely he's not in the 2000 team photo or listed on the 2000 team, though my 2000 edition of The Wolverine preview includes him. Do you know what happened to him?
Thanks again. 200 points to you.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Michigan's Presidential Recruiting Needs||
|7 weeks 2 days ago||The thing about using starts||
The thing about using starts is it's dependent on the level of competition, since somebody is going to use those starts regardless. Ferrara earned starts on Michigans offensive line in 2008; he wouldn't again.
At Alabam I think we would get a very good sample using starts since they've been playing at a consistently high level for a long time now.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||I tried it but I didn't trust||
I tried it but I didn't trust my results because:
|7 weeks 2 days ago||That is simply a function of||
That is simply a function of very few 5-star recruits, and that the star rankings are a measurement of likelihood of collegiate success, not pro potential.
Figure if half (a VERY high number compared to other star ratings) of all 5-star recruits make it to the NFL, and a quarter of them spend at least 3 years starting in the NFL (also a VERY high number). That means you get about 4 NFL starters out of the 5-star recruits per year. Over 10 years then you'll expect to accumulate about 40 NFL starters from the 5-star ranks. So each NFL team should have, on average, 1.25 former 5-star recruits. Given that distribution, it's no surprise at all that any two teams selected at random would have zero between them.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||You think because you only||
You think because you only get passing mentions in Dear Diary that I haven't noticed the lack of lolcats. I have noticed.
|8 weeks 43 min ago||She has a blog, though she||
She has a blog, though she hasn't written on it in years, about what she bakes for Brian.
|8 weeks 14 hours ago||We remember.||
|8 weeks 1 day ago||yup.||
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Dave does a lot of our||
Dave does a lot of our back-end stuff. Brian told a story about him regarding our PSU trip once. He is Brian's good friend.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||They said 115 Sammies were on||
They said 115 Sammies were on the trip; how many were directly involved? What I haven't seen from them is any distancing between the perpetrators, particularly the ringleaders, and the chapter. I can only assume that a majority of the 115 members of the chapter (that is a big number for a Michigan fraternity chapter) who were there participated or did not try to stop it.
I'm sure plenty of people automatically associate the chapter, the fraternity at large, and fraternities in general with this kind of behavior, but I have seen nobody accepting of the behavior beyond the chapter level. If they don't remove the worst offenders then it's perfectly fair to say this action was characteristic of a chapter that doesn't belong on UM's campus.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Just wanted to say: So far,||
Just wanted to say: So far, SO MAAR!
|8 weeks 2 days ago||All true. And what made it||
All true. And what made it successful in Tampa was Warren Sapp et al off the edge. I didn't want to complicate so I pointed to unique players who could do the things their position asked AND other things the scheme would allow. The Steel Curtain was the best because it had a lot of great players in addition to Lambert. Michigan's '97 defense was amazing not just for Woodson; they had Steele and Dhani and Sword and Renes and Ray and Hall and then could bring a guy like Feazell off the bench.
This this is an article primarily about coverage and I wanted to keep it simple for a wider audience. The coaches around here are really helpful because they comment; I didn't write the article for them because they already know why Peppers would be a good fit at safety in an aggressive scheme.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||I was a victim of my own||
I was a victim of my own editing. I had a whole thing about Rod Woodson that got tangential so I took it out and didn't notice it had the 2000 defense going right into Ed Reed. I fixed.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||In '97 Michigan didn't play||
In '97 Michigan didn't play any spread teams, so the defense had to deal with a fullback often and a slot receiver on running downs rarely. So Michigan had the luxury of putting Woodson at corner, having him play up on the receiver, and still not have to worry about giving him a safety if the offense tried to go over the top. That allowed the safeties to come up and play against the run, or take robber zones in the middle. Marcus Ray got a boatload of interceptions, and Michigan was able to run a lot of cool blitzes. There would be entire games when Woodson' side of the field wouldn't see more than a handful of passes, and the safeties could roam wherever Weathers wasn't.
The more you can get pressure from different spots the more your defense can kick ass. Much of that D came back in '98 but couldn't do half of the things they did with Woodson because Whitley couldn't cover low and recover deep.
On this team I expect Woodson would be a safety eventually but start out as a nickel and boundary CB. Peppers is such a similar player (except smaller) you can almost point to him and say "that's what would happen if we had Woodson again."
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Well for one he was just a||
Well for one he was just a true sophomore and should have been a redshirt freshman last year. For two it seems he was having a hard time covering against college competition.
Either way you can't really say "what happened to him" for a guy who earned three starts at Michigan before he could buy a beer.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Got any....2's?||
|8 weeks 4 days ago||So my best friends in college||
So my best friends in college were all in a band trying to make that a career, and Rude Boy, the ICP producer guy, loved the band and kept giving them gigs, despite it being an intellectual experimental prog-rock band.
The last of these was they played in Columbus for the release of The Wraith. By this point I was selling their merch and working on a long-form story about the band and I begged the place to announce them as a Detroit band. Nope. In front of all the Juggalos in Columbus Ohio the guy said Ann Arbor, just to make sure the band with song titles like "Homeric Epic Exit #3" would get the exactly correct reception.
The only time the guys had bottles thrown at them
|8 weeks 4 days ago||You've got a good list for||
You've got a good list for pop. Here's rock, for a given definition of "the band that almost every band alludes to in describing their sound (par ejemplo: We're ManBall. We're like a Beatles meets Tool meets Radiohead meets the Strokes kind of sound)"
1970s: Led Zepplinn
1980s: Guns 'n Roses
2010s: Still up in the air, so far the Black Keys are winning, since all the garage and southern rock bands that dominate rock right now claim them in their meeting.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||What about seniors Trey Burke||
What about seniors Trey Burke and Tim Hardaway?
|8 weeks 6 days ago||What do a Michigan grad and||
What do a Michigan grad and MSU grad have in common? They both got into state.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Oh like YOU guys can tell the||
Oh like YOU guys can tell the difference between middling ACC schools.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||You really have no idea what||
You really have no idea what the families of these douchenozzles are doing about it. You should stop assuming.
|9 weeks 19 hours ago||You really expect us to||
You really expect us to believe you're a Gaylord townie and you have a fondness for Highlands? Everyone I know who's actually from anywhere northwest of the wedding ring skis Nubs and leaves Highlands to the fudgies.
|9 weeks 20 hours ago||It's a question of degree,||
It's a question of degree, yeah, but degree isn't solely the financial cost. Stealing $50,000 in laptops is precisely as awful as $50,000 in damages, but it's also not going to register with a lot of people here.
A one-night Bacchan destruction by UM students is of great interest to UM students and alums, and people in general. Tell me clothing stolen from a laundry room is more interesting than this?
Why give that group special treatment among greater umich sports fans this site serves? Like Detroiters or Ann Arbor residents, UM students and alumni and teachers are such a large contingent of our readership that big things of interest to them are allowed. If the Red Wings injured five Blue Jackets in a wanton brawl at the end of a 12-1 blowout the contingent of Red Wings fans would warrant a thread on it because they're going to be reading about it and talking to others about it.
|9 weeks 20 hours ago||UM student crime - What is newsworthy for MGoBlog?||
Moved a special snowflake back to the roadside.
Guy wanted to discuss the threadworthiness of a topic with two threads and avg 200 replies in those. That's fine but the threadworthiness discussion doesn't need a third thread, so I pasted his comment into the last thread discussing the topic.
Regarding future moderation on this topic, I'd advise allowing one or two more threads in the coming weeks when important information about the case is made public, but that's it. Relevence is to the school, which is within off-topic boundaries for offseason.
|9 weeks 21 hours ago||That same controversy was||
That same controversy was still going on in the late 1990s and early aughts. I was out voted on this on the Daily ed board but I think the university should only use academic recourse for off-campus/non-academic behaviors when there is a clear danger to the integrity of the school or the safety of other students.
A convicted rapist should be removed from the school as a danger to other students. Murder absolutely. Capital fraud (for example involvement in a points shaving scheme with the basketball team) yes. This kind of thing the university would have to show a trend, not one incident, to suggest other students' property was in danger were the perps to remain in school.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||AEPi got kicked off campus||
AEPi got kicked off campus while I was in school. We had a song we sang about it to the tune of American Pie. It had many verses and I know them all still.
Bye Bye Alpha Epsilon Pi
|9 weeks 1 day ago||I disagree; it's UM-related||
I disagree; it's UM-related and for the offseason it's fine. There are two threads on it.
The thing I find unproductive are those going "see this is why I don't join a frat" or "I'm sure their daddies will take care of it."
On the latter: we just got done eviscerating Dave Brandon for a similar comment.
On the former: I was in a fraternity in college. And my dad was in this frat--SAMmies--at MSU (which didn't have a chapter at UM when I was there). A fraternity is like any other organization--football team, Daily, whatever--by joining it you accept that your actions will reflect on the organization. If this was a football team who'd trashed a bowl hotel (which isn't unheard of) people will denigrate that program, that school, and football teams in general, although the more you generalize obviously the further you get from correct.
Is THIS frat full of douches? I mean, it's obvious they have a contingent. You can't create that kind of destruction without a surprising disregard of other people. If that was my hotel I'd absolutely pursue criminal charges.
But the only thing it says about others in their fraternity is they've chosen to associate with these douchenozzles. As for the thousand-odd members of fraternities at Michigan and million-odd across the country who never chose to hang with said douchenozzles, it doesn't really say anything except they joined a type of organization that some douchenozzles joined.
The perpetrators were Americans too, and given the specific fraternity, probably of my religion. They root for Michigan sports. Perhaps one or two were in the room when I spoke at Hillel last November, and three or four pass along this blog. Having things in common with me doesn't make them less douchnozzles to me, and doesn't make me a douchenozzle for those associations.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Built-in excel plus gimp||
Built-in excel plus gimp (free photoshop)
|9 weeks 1 day ago||I saw that. The Freep is||
I saw that. The Freep is already using it in their online coverage.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Nobody gets 100% of things||
Nobody gets 100% of things right, but someone who gets 99.99% of things they report correct and can demonstrate why they were wrong for explicable reasons is a VERY good resource for knowlege. Someone who gets 90% right is untrustworthy but interesting, and someone who gets 80% right is basically useless. Someone who passes along everything without context is a mouthpiece, and is therefore serving whoever gave them information more than their audience.
Please don't throw the "nobody's perfect" thing out there again because it's fallacious. The question is what processes does a journalist use to provide their information.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||AND Ohio State only has one||
AND Ohio State only has one player, and that a guy who barely played for them: Nate Ebner.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||No it's not the same thing||
No it's not the same thing and I tried to explain the difference.
Out of the general population, only a small % of people are going to have BOTH the talent and the will to become professional-level athletes. Being from a poor, shitty background increases the likelihood that you'll have the will to become an athlete capable of being recruited by Michigan. However once you're one of the top 500 players in the country you've already proven you have both the will and the talent.
So if you knew nothing about where to recruit other than how many people live in a certain state, then this information is helpful in identifying where you can get more bang for your buck. But recruiters have far more information already available to them.
What Foote was talking about was his personal motivating experience. But Foote played with Todd Howard, who grew up in the neighborhood adjacent to mine until we both moved, whereupon his neighborhood in Bolingbrook was as nice as mine in Bloomfield HIlls.
Todd was much less of an athlete than a lot of the guys he played with, but he had a profound intelligence for the game and an extraordinary will to make himself better. If Michigan had taken, say, another of Foote's classmates of equal talent from Detroit instead of Todd Howard, Michigan would have been out one three-year starter.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||derf. Fixed.||
|9 weeks 6 days ago||You'd be like the 200th||
You'd be like the 200th person to do so if you changed your avatar to something I drew.
180 of those are the Harbaugh in a michigan hat.
|10 weeks 10 hours ago||(No subject)||
|10 weeks 16 hours ago||Bacon's stories were great||
Bacon's stories were great but he totally teased us that there'd be a new book, then wouldn't tell us what he's writing it about.
|10 weeks 19 hours ago||Just for the record, Brian is||
Just for the record, Brian is only older than me by a handful of months. Apparently the definition of "digustingly young" is not being born by the time Brian was sitting up.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||I remember not thinking he||
I remember not thinking he was very good. Keep in mind this was long before I ever diagrammed a play. But there was a play early in the season--Colorad or Baylor--when Mayes was in and Hendricks was frantically pointing at him to guard someone else.
Mayes did and Hendricks had an interception in the end zone, and I guess because Mayes had a number in a 20s we thought he was another defensive back, and my dad and I talked about how Hendricks is a good DB and Mayes isn't and were smug about how we'd identified this from one play.
Maybe I should stop talking about my 17-year-old football-watching idiot self because I think he'd probably get banned from this board.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||A-train wasn't feature back until 1999||
Click to big.
Here's your answer: A-Train shared carries with other guys until his junior season. Thomas got 28% of RB or FB carries in 1997, and 37% in 1998 before leaping to 79% in 1999.
In '97 it was Chris Howard getting the plurality of touches, though that was still just 41% (C-Will had 12% and the fullbacks, mostly Chris Floyd, accounted for 19%).
In '98 A-Train and C-Will were nearly even: 37% to 32% for little 33. Fargas took another 17% of carries, and Walter Cross got 8%, most of those while salting games away. The fullbacks got the remaining 6%. Thomas was a good enough back in '98 that I made him my background, i.e. he was my favorite player that year.
Only in 1999 did A-Train really become the feature back. The carries that C-Will and Fargas took the previous year all went to Anthony Thomas, with Cross getting the same 8% (backup carries). The fullbacks got 13% but a majority of that was B.J. Askew emerging.
|11 weeks 13 hours ago||Found this in the student||
Found this in the student directory:
|11 weeks 16 hours ago||Awesome series. I'm liking||
Awesome series. I'm liking his stuff better than any other fantasy since Sanderson righted the WoT ship.
Did you read the little side tale with Auri? It's basically The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time except set in a fantasy world, and having read the first I wasn't nearly as enthralled with it, though I would guess most of the people who read fantasy aren't going for mid-aughts bestsellers and vice versa.
Anyway Rothfuss is brilliant.
|11 weeks 16 hours ago||I cannot read "Clint||
I cannot read "Clint Copenhaver" without Keith Jackson's voice saying it.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||I've been deep in the start||
I've been deep in the start data and there's all sorts of weirdness. Each season should have exactly as many starters as the number of games times 22 (unless we were playing 10 man football), but most years are off, meaning I gotta go find lots of little problems.
Right now here's how it matches up (with 2012 repaired):
The 1993-96 data are incomplete--I forgot those were only there to show the historical starts for players on the 97 team.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah something go REALLY||
Yeah something go REALLY messed up with 2012. On Bentley too:
I'm gonna have to do some major scrubbing. Sorry. Here's the correct 2012 start data:
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Something got messed up with||
Something got messed up with my data for 2012 because these are the starts I had on defense:
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Oops. That was all just done||
Oops. That was all just done by hand so lemme fix.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||That's because peppers is a||
That's because peppers is a red shirt freshman. He was injured last year.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||He redshirted but not as a||
He redshirted but not as a true freshman. I thought I had that.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||^This. Here's a preview of||
^This. Here's a preview of the last paragraph in this year's upcoming HTTV roundtable.
|11 weeks 6 days ago||Mullen and then lots of unexplored||
I haven't listened to the podcast but since those who have said Brian brought it up already, Dan Mullen was in place as Plan B. Michigan had already vetted him and he was ready to come. I don't think negotiations with anybody else got that far and didn't need to because Michigan was apparently 90% sure by December 22 that Harbaugh would come, and 99.999% sure that Mullen would come if they didn't get Jim.
|11 weeks 6 days ago||Manning||
is CBs coach currently.
|12 weeks 18 hours ago||Roy Manning rant||
Roy does know RBs. The OP mentioned his experience. I've also spoken to Roy and seen him at clinics and had his views on things passed down second-hand. He absolutely is qualified to coach running backs. Coaches wind up coaching things they didn't play all the time. Rich Rodriguez, inventor of spread to run offenses, was a defensive back.
Without betraying too much let me tell you who Roy is: he's an ace recruiter, yes (Jabrill PEPPERS, man!) but he's also a brilliant mind who was born to coach football. Every guy he played with and a lot of the guys he coaches have said the same thing: he's going to be a Power 5 or NFL head coach one day. The only other guy I ever heard such things so consistently about was Nick Sheridan.
Roy would make a great RB coach. I think he didn't make a great CBs coach because he hadn't ever coached that before, and it showed as Michigan transitioned to a defense that put its cornerbacks in tough situations that they weren't built for. RBs would be a much better fit than staying with the CBs, but even if you left him with the cornerbacks I almost guarantee this guy will be good at it sooner than most former CBs you could give the job to. He had a tough job to do but threw himself into that role very seriously. The reason I know this shit is, as you've probably noticed by now, we have a lot of friends of the blog from the CB depth chart of Roy's playing days. He's been talking to those guys a lot. They put a lot of stock in guys who can "COACH" by which they mean teach the fundamentals of football and life to his charges. At the very least I think Roy Manning has a lot of the qualities that made Brady Hoke such a beloved and accomplished DL coach that he got a shot at being a premier school head coach.
I'm guessing--I haven't gotten diddly since the coaching search began--that he doesn't have a relationship with Harbaugh, and that Harbaugh's building his staff with guys he knows. But it's also a good enough guess that by now somebody has told him keeping Manning in some way would be beneficial. The problem obviously is there are a lot of good RB coach candidates Michigan has access to--Hart, Wheatley, even retaining Fred "the unkillable" Jackson, who would probably be connected to the program in some way anyway since he's the key to in-state recruiting. And their new OC can coach RBs. And their new DC can coach LBs, and so can Mattison. So unless there's a role for SAM/WDE and recruiting dude, Manning may not have a role.
|12 weeks 18 hours ago||I've seen that rumor but I'm||
I've seen that rumor but I'm very much waiting for some level of realness before taking it seriously. Reason being, it's notoriously difficult to get transfers past admissions at Michigan, and nobody has any idea right now whether our graduate school admissions process would consider a guy likely to come here for just one year.
The whole admissions-athletics relationship hasn't had to face that before, and the information we have on that operation is thus limited. The good news is so far the only transfers Michigan ever gets are really good students from Stanfords and the like. Here's the list:
If he wasn't from Stanford I wouldn't even be countenancing it. But who knows if Michigan's academics would even consider his athletic value in his admissions. And if Michigan can't guarantee admission, would he just move on to the large list of schools who do?
|12 weeks 1 day ago||Ads for other blogs||
if your local radio personality tells you to troll us, don't do that.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||He came. He wore khakis, and||
He came. He wore khakis, and a funny jacket, and a funny hat, and a fez under his hat, and reported that everybody wears a fez under their hats. We are investigating this now.
We had a staff meeting upstairs after the hoops game and didn't get to hang downstairs as much as we like (most of us have newish offspring) but we ran into a lot of fans who reported their wives/girlfriends are very much not fans of the site.
Also Vincent Smith came by for a bit.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||I like Jimmystats for the||
I like Jimmystats for the Excellish ones.
Would it be bothersome to HTTV readers if I stole section names from the mag?
|12 weeks 2 days ago||Booo pop songs.Yay Irving||
Booo pop songs.
Yay Irving Berlin songs.
Now that I've tried to make one of these things I've got a new appreciation for how much work goes into one of them. But I really do hate pop songs in hype videos.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||Harbaugh. Harbaugh Harbaugh:||
Harbaugh Harbaugh: Harbaugh, Harbaugh Harbaugh Harbaugh--Harbaugh Harbaugh Harbaugh Harbaugh Harbaugh--Harbaugh:
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Harbaugh or Harbaugh?||
Harbaugh or Harbaugh?
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Your scenario has him not||
Your scenario has him not even coaching the Ohio State game.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||I know it. Actually I first||
I know it. Actually I first found this song while looking for footage of the one you describe. Then the Irving Berlin song inspired the video.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||Oh man FIND THIS MAN! I wanna||
Oh man FIND THIS MAN!
I wanna be there.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||He's a one-source reporter.||
He's a one-source reporter. Guy got into an argument with me and BiSB earlier this year when he published that list of grievances from that he purported to be a thing signed by a bunch of players when it was an email one guy forwarded to a lot of people.
Being right is less important than being right for the right reasons. He called Harbaugh because he heard the same things from M people that we did: M people were pushing Jim hard to come back. But rather than put it in context he ran to be the first to say Harbaugh's coming.
I don't think that's the kind of journalism that deserves any kind of appreciation. It's guessing well.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||And it wasn't a Photoshop it||
And it wasn't a Photoshop it was a Gimp, so Gimp has a case.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||Yeah if doesn't happen then||
Yeah if doesn't happen then they won't happen. I wouldn't put this up now if we weren't fairly certain. It was a question is do we care about jinxes vs the time it takes to get shirts made and shipped.
"It h4ppened" seems too short term to me. It's not like the hire fixes everything. Getting this program back to elite will be a long process and this shirt is meant to remain relevant throughout that.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||Morris. He was thrown into||
Morris. He was thrown into the fire this year but he still has an arm and a head.
I think there's a pretty strong consensus on this side already that no, there's no way in hell or Ohio he'll come here for a grad transfer season, and yes, if there was a chance we'd welcome him.
OSU's own QB situation may not warrant a transfer anyway. J.T. Barrett will be coming off of an injury that doesn't necessarily have you back in a year's time, and certainly won't have him back for spring practice. There will inevitably be "I'm 99%" quotes come fall practice that will be 78% bullshit because that's what football players do. Anyway Ohio State would very much appreciate having Braxton around, and Miller would have all of spring to take 1st team snaps. If I had to guess right now where he'll be come 9/1/2015, it's starting for the Buckeyes.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||What if Cam Newton discovered||
What if Cam Newton discovered by some quirk of NCAA rules he had one year left of eligibility? Would you take him?
|13 weeks 2 days ago||I changed thread name because||
I changed thread name because reasons today.
Two very disciplined defenses vs two offenses that screw with you cerebrally. SDSU does the things we thought Borges should have: packaged power plays. Navy is a 3O which SDSU has fared well against. Lots of smart guys playing football chess out there. Watch Navy's QB on his option reads. Best in the game.
|13 weeks 4 days ago||0.0% chance of Beilein||
0.0% chance of Beilein getting fired even if this season is a post-season-less disaster, so all your thread could possibly accomplish would be to provide an example of how silly knee-jerk fans are with their hotseat bler, thereby pissing off the board and providing a bad example for other Michigan fans of the level of discussion on the board.
So let's weight: the potential for MGoBlog to look like a joke plus the potential to piss off our readers, versus the likelihood that a stupid question answerable in less than 5 characters generates a considered response.
|13 weeks 4 days ago||At what point does Beilein's seat begin to get warm this season?||
Long after you've got your points back. Use the time till then to figure out what questions are worth asking.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||It depends. Justice doesn't||
It depends. Justice doesn't get served by any standard solution; it is fitted to the exact circumstances of the crime and the criminal. You can say mercy is the better solution right up to the point where a criminal hurts people again.
Saban's justification is self-serving. The options are not always the street or starring. The competition for players means a football player cut loose by his school for criminal activity is likely to find a second chance elsewhere.
Saban of all people shouldn't be talking about this because he recruits kids already on their second chances, and metes out justice based on how much they can help his football team to a much greater degree than your average coach. If Mark Richt said this same thing I would be all "hell yeah." With Saban, it's Capone making a general argument for clemency. The truth is if Musin Muhammed couldn't have helped his team as much as another recruit, Saban would have cut his ass.
In general I don't think that severe punishment is more effective at justice than mercy and a chance for redemption. I think the pressure to succeed in football is a strong motivation for players to be given second chances and for them to use those opportunities. Giving criminals a chance to make up the damage they caused and move on with their lives is a hugely important aspect of justice. The more that decision is about football instead of the crime or the criminal, the less it is likely to be just. And Nick Saban is the first guy in college football I would name if asked who's making those decisions mostly on the football merits.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||This is what I was trying to||
This is what I was trying to avoid. I posted my political involvement because it's public (there are going to be articles with my byline and a bottom bio that says I work here) and can affect how people read what I write.
In fairness to the issue you bring up, I could point out that the other side, when it had the governor's seat, kept choosing to patch or replace with cheap stuff instead of springing for the expensive good stuff that our neighbors use, and that decision appeared to be influenced by wanting to keep road repair crews working. So on that issue having an operative republic may only return the fixing of roads into a pit of corruption.
|14 weeks 1 day ago||New Coach new Quarterback??||
Somewhere along the thought process of "Shane sucks, Tate Forcier was awesome," there was a notable lack of "is this thread-worthy?"
|14 weeks 2 days ago||I left out non Power 5||
I left out non Power 5 schools on purpose. Also nobody gets an NFL head coaching job after the Lions. Schwartz may break that. But we ruined even Moeller and Mariucci.