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|4 days 1 hour ago||It's one year since my father||
It's one year since my father died. I plan to sleep in late and go to bed early to make the day as short as possible. For this and likely for the rest of my life I just want to get through it so the wound can scab again.
|4 days 1 hour ago||http://mgoblog.com/content/ha||
I put a link to the FAQ at the top. Get ye to your mailbox.
|1 week 1 day ago||It's a rule to prevent Saban||
It's a rule to prevent Saban from packing his classes with walk-ons then being like "Oh, YOU earn a scholarship" to all of them on August 30 to avoid class limits.
A walk-on cannot take an official visit to the school, and cannot officially join the team until later in the season. The point is to cut out some of the gray area between scholarship players and walk-ons (grayshirts, blueshirts, etc.) It doesn't.
|1 week 3 days ago||incumbent trike||
clean up the OT it's getting bad again.
|1 week 3 days ago||Peppers is super fast for an||
Peppers is super fast for an HSP. Most of those guys are tiny linebackers. He's ranked against Kovacs, Chesson is ranked against Devin Smith.
|1 week 3 days ago||Morris: I'm ranking him||
Morris: I'm ranking him against all QBs. I think the "dual threat" and "drop back" distinctions are overrated. Connor Cook has enough legs to be a part of the offense. So does Hackenberg and Morris. Speight doesn't, and Rudock isn't a statue but neither is he going to win a lot of 1-on-1 battles with safeties. When I saw Speight he looked exactly like Navarre.
(Who once juked a guy remember?)
Green is an interesting case: his top speed isn't that great but he can accelerate really fast for a guy his size. That's what made him a 5-star and if he knew where the hole was that would be a major asset in this offense.
For Kerridge, if Houma was still healthy that would show who I'm ranking him against. Also going against Northwestern superbacks and whatnot. B.J. Askew is a +3.
I'm NOT comparing them against guys who play the exact technique they play. I'm saying for an average dude at that position they're X. So Wormley is a 5-tech in an under and maybe he's a -2 then because yeah he does have some get-go, but that rating is against Shilique Calhoun.
Morgan I have a few plays in coverage he's made that made me upgrade him to average for a linebacker. You don't see it that often because he's fighting blocks more often than space, but watch him turn and go with a TE running a sluggo route and you'll see what I mean.
|1 week 3 days ago||Not yet anyway. The one||
Not yet anyway. The one consistent thing in all the inconsistent medicaled scuttlebutt on the premium boards is that Drake has time left to heal. The scholarship crunch for next year doesn't apply to this year so it's just a matter of whether he can play without danger.
|1 week 3 days ago||It's totally subjective,||
It's totally subjective, yeah, but I only rated guys we've got film of relative to each other. Speight I'll give you is a tough one since he might have had a groin pull when I saw him lugging around in a couple spring practice videos. Hackenberg is fairly athletic--I'd say average. Speed is hardly the only important thing about a player--this isn't a fast offensive team, but neither are the Patriots.
Jourdan Lewis's speed is off the charts and it's the key to what makes him such a good cornerback. He'll be 10 yards off a guy and recover. I didn't mean +3 to be unpossible--if Denard was here still i'd have to push the extreme out to a +4.
|1 week 3 days ago||Not going to the 'stones but||
Not going to the 'stones but thanks for reminding me the Pistons actually get a draft pick this year, and didn't have it taken away in a Dumars gamble that went sour.
|1 week 3 days ago||table.tableizer-table||
Just to kinda show what I think Brian's talking about, here's my feels on the team speed of Michigan's current two-deep, compared to what I imagine should be average for the conference. +3 for a slot receiver means you're Percy Harvin, -3 for a wide receiver means you're probably close to the average tight end.
|1 week 3 days ago||lol||
|1 week 3 days ago||Yeah I immediately went there||
Yeah I immediately went there too.
|1 week 3 days ago||Well blow me down||
|1 week 6 days ago||He was lightning fast. I||
He was lightning fast. I forgot he was a highly ranked recruit.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||STAY AWAY FROM THOSE||
STAY AWAY FROM THOSE COMMENTS!
I think that is pretty damn clear. I don't understand you people. You probably read Ace's Ohio State preview too. Is there a way to communicate that this is something you should not do other than saying so in plain English? THEY HAVE THREE HEISMAN-CALIBER QUARTERBACKS AND A DEFENSE TO MATCH GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||this is important about||
this is important about Woodson: other guys have had his talent. Watch Antonio Cromartie in high school. Or Donte Whitner. if you give me time I'm sure I could think of a few others.
What Charles Woodson has is not just ungodly talent plus size; he is also the hardest worker in the NFL and one of the smartest guys to ever play the game. he studies offenses the way a famous professor studies his field. this comes from public analysts and guys who played with him and after him at Michigan. his physical abilities are truly amazing, what makes him truly uncanny however is his brain and how he uses it.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Errors and counting||
They've plated the print book so all errors are locked in to haunt me forever.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||^this guy's going to get to||
^this guy's going to get to the roundtable and not think that.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||You're right; I was being||
You're right; I was being overly cynical to prove a point. As EGD mentioned though, whether I say it or not, that's the business they're in.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||I give Harbaugh credit for||
I give Harbaugh credit for consistently finding good college players from guys who don't have the stars to show it, but ABSOLUELY NOT Woodson.
Woodson was the best running back the state of Ohio had seen since Rob Lytle. Better. They didn't have national recruiting rankings back then as they do now, but Woodson was right where Jabrill Peppers was: a super duper can't-miss prospect everyone had heard of within three states.
The only guys with anything like that hype coming in were Tyrone Wheatley and Drew Henson, and both of those guys it was partly because they were also academic superstars, and home grown ones at that. Woodson turned himself into one of the greatest players ever but coming in he was already one of the greatest athletes Michigan had ever recruited, and there was a national consensus on this.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Nope, but this (and the rest||
Nope, but this (and the rest of the Napoleon Wars) were pretty much their final hurrah, and most of the 74s in service were probably 30+ years old.
The War of 1812 played a key role in British bluewater shipbuilding because they finally witnessed the efficacy of, and got their hands on, the cross-beam construction the Yanks used beginning with the original frigates. If you know your Master & Commander well remember how clean the sides look. This is that ship (the HMS Rose) when not gussed up for film. The ship is a fair replica of a 1760s British frigate still in service in the Napoleonic Wars:
Now look at the walls of the USS Constitution's gundeck:
That framing got passed into British shipbuilding soon after the War of 1812 (to '14) and gave rise to the 90-gun ships they favored up until the steamships and actual iron-sides.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||"Nevermind maneuvers; go||
"Nevermind maneuvers; go right for them."
Nelson's strategy was pretty basic but also sound: put an overwhelming amount of force in one spot and force the enemy to come to action. It is MANBALL all the way. It also got a lot of his generation and the next killed.
The American strategy (as deployed under Secretary Jones, who basically ran the entire government while Madison was sick for a third of 1813) was a lot like spread philosophy: get some playmakers and put them in space to force the enemy to cover all of it, turning the enemy's size advantage into a speed hindrance.
The British response is also telling: they razeed (chopped the top deck off of) a bunch of old ships of the line to create ships with similar sailing properties to the American large frigates. Likewise, defenses have responded to the spread by going with various types of hybrid space players.
Of course they didn't have live oak to build with, and the war ended before they could be engaged, but you'll note the British soon after started building the "blackwall frigates" and, hilariously, copied the cross-beam design of the 44'ers but attributed them to Robert Sepping because they still didn't want to admit the Yankee shipbuilders had created a superior bluewater ship of war.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Some RCMB people figured out||
Some RCMB people figured out they can do this a few years ago. It still happens but it goes straight to trash.
Welcome to being important enough that the lowest class of the lowest internet fanbase wants to annoy you.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Correct.||
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah that'll go on sale on||
Yeah that'll go on sale on the MGoStore soon. I want to make sure the Kickstarter backers all get theirs first.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Don't be that surprised.||
Don't be that surprised. Remember there are at least five state universities in Michigan with higher academic standards than the bulk of the SEC*
* Nisi Vanderbiltum
|3 weeks 4 days ago||no but I read those all over||
no but I read those all over 2 years in early adulthood. I am reading a book about the war of 1812. my family all shares a Kindle account, and I found the book my dad had been reading before he died. the first I just picked up where he was out of curiosity, but now I'm just reading it.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Those are not assigned||
Those are not assigned numbers; those are numbers they wore at their previous stops only.
It's pretty common for guys to lose their numbers to incoming players. There's an unstated pecking order no coach would ever admit to even though it's true across probably every college or pro team. Quarterbacks recruited by Texas will always be above wide receivers with CMU/Bowling Green the next best programs to offer.
I have heard nothing that would suggest either Houma nor Jones is transferring or whatever. Regarding Houma we don't even know or necessarily think that'll be the incoming punter's number; he has had injuries in the past but he's not among those who get named among the medicals who keep getting leaked.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I believe they keep their||
I believe they keep their numbers but the patches are going away. This is just from seeing what they did in spring.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||For now yes. We put all of||
For now yes. We put all of those into a spreadsheet (actually Dave did) and the whole point of the Web forms is to generate a spreadsheet.
I have your info so you should be good.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Naw, it's give and take. They||
Naw, it's give and take. They charge a lot for providing a minimal service (South Park has an episode on this) but every year we look at doing it through our store and every year we end up going back to the Kickstarter because it's a smooth-ish ride.
The complaint on my end is there's no easy transition if you don't want to use Kickstarter's own system for fulfillment, and we much prefer to fulfill through UGP because our shirts are already there and they know our customers and they will warehouse the books and sell them in their stores. But that means getting people to use the same email there and then filling out their info over here. And manually porting the two databases into excel and updating. Yada yada. Kickstarter is good for what they do; eventually we will probably outgrow them because we duplicate efforts and we get zero backers from anything that's not our own promotion.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Pre-order|
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Weirdly I don't have an||
Weirdly I don't have an answer for this yet. Dave spent yesterday going through all of those emails and putting them into a spreadsheet so I have all of those easily accessible now. So I'm guessing you're good from here.
I may have everyone who emailed me fill out a form, or Dave and I may just do it for you. But it's just a clerical question now; I have your addresses and only I send the list of addresses to the printer for shipping those books.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Hey sorry your logic is||
Hey sorry your logic is incorrect. I never ever ever see the address you put into Kickstarter. That address is to confirm your credit card is yours, and I don't ever see your credit card information. I pay Amazon a hefty portion of the Kickstarter so I don't ever have to deal with that.
You have emails in the inbox of the email address you used for Kickstarter. Those emails have instructions to follow a link that matches your order to our UGPoGo webform. You put your address in there.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||If you took the correct link||
If you took the correct link to the "DUO" form there was indeed a mistake on the form because it had this picture:
When neither of them are signed. There were a few people who used the link for "1 Signed Copy" who purchased a "DUO" on the Kickstarter and I have them noted. Under my system what it says you get from Kickstarter matters more than what cart you filled out--mostly that is so I can collect address and t-shirt sizes easily, and send confirmation emails. If the Kickstarter says you get 2 books and you filled out the UGPoGo cart for 10 books, 1) you'll hear from me in case you actually want to quinteple your order, and 2) if I don't hear back you get 2 books.
There's a link if you want your second book shipped to a different location than your first book. For obvious reasons I can't put that link here.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||
email email@example.com and have your UGPoGo order handy.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Any orders that filled out||
Any orders that filled out the wrong form I've contacted.
I don't have any record of a kickstarter backer with the email address you used for your MGoBlog sign-in so I have no way of knowing who you are. Email me at [my name]@mgoblog.com and we'll see if we can get you sorted out.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Lawyer: People think they can||
Lawyer for plaintiff: People think they can freely express their opinions in public forums such as the internet without having it come back to them in court!
A Judge (very soon): Yep, we think that.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Barrett's got good accuracy||
Barrett's got good accuracy and especially deep accuracy which made that team lethal last year. The other two are good enough for spread work especially with the running threats they pose.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||EVERY EVERY EVERY fanbase||
EVERY EVERY EVERY fanbase asks this question. The answer is because refs are humans and humans are capable of things like declaring Darboh's catch not a catch and stuff.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||I figured I gave a post to||
I figured I gave a post to Haylie this morning, and I'm hoping Driesenga comes back (I think the backup catcher is the only other senior unless I'm missing someone)
|4 weeks 4 days ago||self-negged!||
|4 weeks 4 days ago||I've got my classy out on the||
I've got my classy out on the front page and I do sincerely congratulate Florida on a well-deserved repeat national championship.
BUT I'M HERE IN THE NEG THREAD TO ALL-CAPS WTF WITH ALL THE GETTING HIT BY PITCHES YES THIS HAPPENS IN SOFTBALL A LOT BUT THAT WAS RIDICULOUS AND PLANNED FROM THE FIRST BATTER STEPPING OUT OF THE HITTER'S BOX AND ARRRRGH IT WAS PROBABLY ENOUGH THEY'LL FINALLY LOOK AT THIS RULE AGAIN BUT WHY DID MICHIGAN HAVE TO BE THE VICTIM IN A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME TO GET THAT CHANGED ARGH NEG NEG NEG
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Ask a poet to explain better.||
Ask a poet to explain better. About iambs and matching stress syllables but a poet will know how to say that.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||I'm 99.9% certain they use||
I'm 99.9% certain they use ASA rules or something closely resembling them. Agreed if the defensive player is holding the ball she can block the path to the bag. In this case she was obstructing as the runner began her slide, made contact with the runner, then caught the ball.
The way I learned to call this was to keep it simple: if the runner is trying to get to the bag and a defender is obstructing BEFORE she gets the ball, it's obstruction. If she gets the ball then obstructs it's fine, but you really don't have to worry about that as much since by that point the defender will be applying a tag.
As an umpire if you're in position like you should be, you will be able to plainly see if the defensive player is making an obstructive move before the ball comes, and she plainly was.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||You mean GlaD.||
You mean GlaD.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Thanks Craig.||
|4 weeks 6 days ago||"Sporstmanlike" is a term||
"Sporstmanlike" is a term that should have been retired in 1870, which is about the time that various aristocracies realized they couldn't remain the only people allowed to play the sports they came up with.
That and children's sports. If I'm coaching a team up through high school JV I agree with you.
Understand the point of trash talk: it raises the competitive level by raising the stakes and how badly you want to beat the other guy. You say something you are honor bound to back that up. You get said to, you are honor bound to step up. Pride is fed to the beast that is winning.
There are levels of sport where you shouldn't sacrifice pride or raise the level of competition. I don't want high school freshman ballers ruining their shoulders for life for freshman ball, and kids that age are not mature enough to properly channel their emotions. The older the players get and the higher the level of competition, the more it's appropriate.
And you're not going to get rid of it. Kids my age grew up on the Fab Five and the Bad Boys, and we'd go out on the cracked asphalt every recess and say horrible things to each other because we were 10-year-old boys following our social coding to compete.
But at highly competitive levels, whining about sportsmanship for jeering is just that.
"Sporstmanship" can still be applicable but "ethics" means the same thing. You don't intentionally injure another player, for example.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||I didn't say Romero moved||
I didn't say Romero moved Trey out of the conversation. I said she moved Denard out. I wouldn't have Hunwick in there either, and since I can't believe he didn't win the Hobey Baker I have to remove Porter too. If we're doing this:
Can't tell what would have been with 4 years of Burke but can't credit him for it either. Mikulak has to win this by any measure that I'd include Romero in.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Ironically I wrote that||
Ironically I wrote that paragraph first. The Florida preview was the last bit I hurriedly typed without thoroughly scouting.
Baseball fandom kind of wore me out on the minutiae of game to game events. This person or that person coming through in a big moment is relevant to that person but not to future events. The exception is an exceptional play, like several that LSU's centerfielder made during the WCWS before facing M, and Sierra Lawrence getting around on a tough pitch to score the winning two, then having the heads-up to steal home while LSU was napping.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||I was being punny. As for the||
I was being punny. As for the post it was just meandering meta--the policies of the message board already say all that. The mods are doing their best to try to clean up things but to a degree the internet's gonna internet and we just have to live with that fact.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||This site is a vending machine||
That was...dare I say...out of order!
|4 weeks 6 days ago||I hate it when our vending||
I hate it when our vending machine doesn't give me the snack I paid for. And I know Ace or Adam is going to come along in 30 minutes and see my Snickers hanging there and he'll be all "hey two Snickers for the price of one!" but no that was really my Snickers and now I am not satisfied and somewhere Ace is stuffing his face with MY chocolate and nougat and peanuts and caramel that I PAID FOR.
This was a metaphor for something but really I just think Ace owes me a Snickers.
|5 weeks 12 hours ago||Is it? IF (did you see I said||
Is it? IF (did you see I said "IF", softball gods?) Michigan wins Game 1 or 2 I figured that to be Muppet-worthy.
|5 weeks 15 hours ago||ungh. I was osposting from my||
ungh. I was osposting from my phone and it kept autocorrecting that. Fixed. Brian has to fix our posting mechaniism, since I have to-paste the youtube embed code every damn time.
|5 weeks 20 hours ago||We've reached out to him on||
We've reached out to him on several occasions but that never got anywhere. The guy Denard has doing this stuff hasn't been interested and we get permission for everything we do, from that person if it applies to a specific person.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Please not kale.||
Please not kale.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||This softball team has some||
This softball team has some remarkable parallels with 1920s MLB teams. The players are informal--they jeer at each other and stuff and interact with the crowds. Superstars really shine because of a smaller pool of athletes but they also live among the people. The beginnings of all the major sport followings were a lot like this. The allure isn't just a rabbit hole; it's pure sport.
I think what held softball back for awhile is between about 2002 and maybe last year it was such a pitching-dominated game that there were seldom lead changes or baserunners even to get excited about. Games would just coast 7 innnings and be done and you'd talk about the tan you got. Teams with a dominant pitcher would win 1-0 all the time.
I theorize that sports get less interesting the more competitive the leagues are. People say they want to be surprised but really they far more enjoy having their preconceptions justified. Rank the popularity of sports in the US and you'll have a ranking of how likely the better team is to win.
That's why I'm such a Sierra Romero fan. She's like a Babe Ruth for the sport. She generates ridiculous bat speed--like MLB hitter bat speed--and can dominate pitchers who don't have a lot of late movement. Such pitchers are still going to roll through lineups (when Betsa's stuff is going she's unhittable, and Florida's pitcher is like that all the time). But I think hitting has come far enough now that it's just excellent sport. She's so good that you can go to a game expecting her to do something amazing and most of the time she will.
If you're a sports fan, especially a college sports fan, getting into softball should be easy right now, because it ticks all the fan boxes.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Never mess with a streak.||
Never mess with a streak.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||That flag flew over the||
That flag flew over the birthplace of Bo, Woodson, of Desmond Howard, of Horace Prettyman, and Jordan Kovacs.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Ah good catch. Now I'm more||
Ah good catch. Now I'm more confused.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Search mgoblog for "dear||
Search mgoblog for "dear diary sprinkles cheese"
|5 weeks 2 days ago||That would be an NCAA||
That would be an NCAA violation.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Other categories than worst:||
Let's use all the power words division:
Eagles and America. The eagle is pooping sunshine because the tenacity is greatness.
This eagle wants to have words with you.
First person to move in gets to design the flag division:
Get it? I saw a beaver in the backyard. Also in 1859 we didn't have ruled stencils so...
Me injun, you chief, she squaw. Awahwahwahwahwhawhwah! This is still politically correct right?
In case you thought we meant Washington Irving, though he was cool too.
/looks up /points
Um, you realize we threw off the yoke of the tyrannical British aristocracy right?
Is that like Banana Republic? Do you sell flannel shorts in this establishment? You look like you sell flannel shorts.
Let's all copy New York's Flag Division:
New York's flag:
Good luck guessing who these are without zooming in:
Same as above but good job you put your name on it division:
States already thinking ahead to what the hockey jersey might look like:
A little busy but okay.
Too many teams with those colors already but good logo.
Classiest flag relative to classiness of the state:
I'd invite that to dinner, and would be highly surprised when it doesn't wear shoes.
We're MARITIME SEE?
So you're Scotland?
Flag I secretly admire (it's original and classy okay?!?)
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Worst and there is no other||
Worst and there is no other answer:
You shouldn't be celebrating your history. You can't clean that symbol after it stood for the time you betrayed the United States because your country told you you couldn't keep slavery. You certainly can't clean it up barely half a century after it was the primary one used to stand for segregation, especially considering you AGAIN tried to war with the United States over it.
One of the first images that pop into Americans' heads when "racism" is uttered are the stands of Ole Miss filled with white supremicists waving the stars and bars while the governor played to their hate in his standoff with Kennedy over integration. That is what that symbol will always mean now.
This flag means you suck at being a state. You should probably try to have the symbol of your state mean something else. Or keep it because the first thing anyone really thinks about your state is how much you utterly suck as a state.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Cabera-like indeed. Her swing||
Cabera-like indeed. Her swing is a lot like his.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||My wife was against all the||
My wife was against all the Michigan references I kept suggesting so we settled on Glennebo.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||And a good thing they didn't||
And a good thing they didn't review and change it, or it would have ruined that whole "Michigan must win a preposterous game by 4 points" narrative we had going since '09.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Good movie. Didn't more than||
Good movie. Didn't more than one of his players say it was all bullshit?
|5 weeks 3 days ago||I had like an hour phone||
I had like an hour phone convo with Brandon Williams (who recoverd the punt and ran it in) about that game. Then when it happened again vs Nebraska a couple of years ago I was texting him from the stands "THAT'S YOUR PLAY!"
|5 weeks 3 days ago||I thought the ball was||
I thought the ball was fumbled out of the endzone before anyone had possession in it.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||He was a pretty smart guy and||
He was a pretty smart guy and a very nice guy who made a couple of dumb plays. It sucks that he made those dumb plays, but "dumbest guy to ever wear a UofM jersey" has SO so much more competition.
Austin White wore a Michigan jersey.
Robert Traylor wore a Michigan jersey.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Blue shirts are best||
Blue shirts are best understood by knowing what a preferred walk-on is. The pecking order:
1. Is the typical LOI guy.
2. Blueshirt offers are often a guy they want to put on scholarship but work out with him a deal to pay his own way the first semester so they can fit more kids into the class. They're mostly used to get around the oversigning rules but sometimes a school like Michigan could offer a blue shirt to a guy who's like the son of an NFL player and not hurting for cash and plans to redshirt anyway, since that gets you one more scholly for the year. A blueshirt also may take that fall semester off, or if there's space get a scholarship if one of the LOI guys never enrolls and the school is under the 25 cap for the class and the 85 cap for the semester.
Note there's no paper promises here. The player can still go elsewhere and isn't bound by a letter of intent, and the coach can turn around and be like "sorry no scholly."
3. Grayshirt is a guy they promise a scholarship to next year. In theory it's one more sememster than a blueshirt. Really grayshirt was the initial idea and blueshirt was just a way to one-up that in the brinksmanship of college sports recruiting.
4. A preferred walk-on isn't promised a scholarship; he is promised he'll most likely make the team and get into the school, which for many preferred walk-ons is a very nice offer indeed. There isn't much gap between a gray or blueshirt, but the gap between a preferred walk-on and a grayshirt is kinda big, unless *cough* Ohio State *cough* the school is known for offering grayshirts to guys they really only mean to make preferredf walk-ons. Michigan brings more preferred walk-ons than most schools because the offer of admission to MIchigan is kind of a big deal.
5. Special teams players are a side-group among walk-ons because many attended national camps and hoped to earn scholarships, but it's standard practice for big programs to only offer a scholly to the starter, so there's a big market for walk-on kickers and punters and long snappers. They are somewhat recruited, but not exactly preferred walk-ons (some of them are that, usually guys with scholarship offers elsewhere).
6. A "walk-on" is usually a guy the coaches know about beforehand but he isn't promised any help. He comes and competes for a roster spot on the 112.
7. The lowest of the low is a student body walk-on. It's highly rare for a program like Michigan to turn up Jordan Kovacs, and even then that was a specific set of weird circumstances (he was the son of a fmr player and Carr knew about him but his knee was too messed up as a freshman to make the team that year, and then he had a path to playing time because that secondary). A student body walk-on is usually a guy who came out to tryouts, which for many coaches is an excuse to football with guys who aren't as entitled and not really a way to find anything unless you're seriously desperate for a kicker. Some schools turn up more student body walk-ons than others because of the talent they've recruited relative to what the student body is like. For example Duke football finds a lot of them, because admissions for Duke overrates participation in sports on applications, accidentally providing a deeper pool of prep athletes.
The things blueshirts (and grayshirts) have to be careful of is tripping the penalty wires in place to prevent Saban from calling all of his oversignees walk-ons. If you take an official visit and come to the school but don't get a scholly the team gets penalized a scholly for fall and a scholly for spring.
Again NOT ALL SCHOOLS ARE HONEST ABOUT BLUESHIRT OFFERS. Nothing gets written down to ensure a scholarship after one or two semester,s and some coaches *cough* Urban Meyer *cough* are notorious liars when it comes to getting more players or preventing a rival school from getting players. If you don't trust the coach don't trust the offer.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Funny you mentioned that. We||
Funny you mentioned that. We have an interview with Hanlon in HTTV where he was asked his greatest regret and right away said how he coached Steve Smith. He didn't say he'd redshirt him, but Hanlon wishes like hell he'd found more ways to use his athleticism in the offense.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||It's a long drive back to||
It's a long drive back to West Bloomfield from ann arbor. Shut up.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||I wouldn't go that far.||
I wouldn't go that far. Tressel was a very good football coach, and the only freshman to be a significant part of the 2002 team was Maurice Clarett, who would have gone to Ohio State regardless because he is the human embodiment of Tressel's Ohio State.
Their 2002 team was lucky, but Henson beating them in 2001 doesn't change anything about it.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Fargas was a good running||
Fargas was a good running back but:
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Kansas. One football game in||
Kansas. One football game in Ann Arbor and a home-and-home in hoops. They'd love to get a team like Michigan on their basketball schedule to pad their RPI (our basketball teams with that one year's exception tend to do worse in the early season than the late).
Too bad we missed the Charlie Weiss era. Anyway they're a fun Power 5 program that probably won't threaten the football team and also will be recognizeable to fans, and would lead to a pair of really interesting basketball games.
Also would like a home and home with any SEC team but the SEC is very careful not to ever let one of its teams play an out-of-conference game in the frozen, 70-degree temperatures in Michigan in late September.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Ouch man. I killed that||
Ouch man. I killed that paragraph soon after posting--was trying to say "this isn't about the state" by arguing against obviously false underwritten assertions. But it didn't need the extra layers to make the point.
Thesis is at the top. Conclusion is at the bottom where it says "Conclusions?"
|6 weeks 4 days ago||He DID have a decided||
He DID have a decided schematic advantage afterall. This is one hell of a scheme.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||They're one and the same.||
They're one and the same. Michigan had several JV iterations before that. Orr jumped on it and packed the roster with whatever he could find. But I'll rework to clarify that.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||That march has to have words.||
That march has to have words. I must learn them.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||OT: 2016 Camaro||
OT: 2016 Camaro
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Sometime soon after the||
Sometime soon after the kickstarter is funded we'll send out a link to a webform where you fill out where you want it sent. Just use the same email address so I can match you.
I NEVER SEE YOUR BILLING ADDRESS. That is handled by Amazon through their secure system so you don't have to give billing info to a blogger.
Repeat: I NEVER SEE YOUR BILLING ADDRESS. The address you provide when you fill out the webform on our store is the address it will go to.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||On the other hand I commend||
On the other hand I commend your use of alcohol to erase all memory of Talbott playing dime back in 2010, when opponents saw Michgian's depth chart and decided they'd go 4-wide all day and Michigan had to use Talbott and Avery together on half their downs. This happened. It didn't go very well.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||You should know this||
You should know this Ace!
Bandit: The weakside slot player (counts as a safety), 2/3rds safety, 1/3rd outside linebacker in a 3-4. Like the Spur except doesn't take on tight ends--often tracks down slot receviers in space. Jordan Kovacs played this except when they idiotically made him the free safety a few games in 2009. Furman was recruited to be a Bandit.
Spur: The strongside slot player (counts as a linebacker). 2/3rds outside linebacker, 1/3rd safety. "Meat raw" version of bandit--this means he takes on tight end blocks sometimes. Stevie Brown played this, then it was a rotation of Thomas Gordon, Carvin Johnson, and later Cameron Gordon. M-Rob was recruited to be a Spur. So was Brandin Hawthorne and a few others.
Spinner: The nominal strongside linebacker (counts as linebacker). 50% linebacker, 50% defensive end. This is where they put Roh when they had him in a 2-point stance. They also used JB Fitz here. The Spinner can back out in a true 3-3-5 or often comes down to line up like 4-3 over SDE but GERG didn't know how to use him so he had this guy in coverage all the time. Jake Ryan was recruited to play this. If Shawn Crable had infinite eligibility, or Pierre Woods for that matter, they would have been perfect for it.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||At a bar in Nashville||
At a bar in Nashville visiting my best friend the weekend before a trade show I had to be there for. I think the "Bush Push" happened the same night.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||OT: Faster than the speed of light?||
Your trains would be ripped apart by the pressure of Earth's atmosphere. Ultimately at speeds approaching the speed of light it's too difficult to keep any arrangement of molecules from running into each other and igniting fusion. That's why faster than light and near light speed postulating keeps coming back to warp: fold a bit of space so you're floating in a total 0 Kelvin vacuum while accelerating and creating a very angry ripple all around you (that doesn't accidentally destroy a star system it passes through).
The train theory is close to what they do at CERN except it's magnetic fields instead of trains. There are two "tracks" they accelerate and then they'll merge the tracks along the circle right where their recording equipment.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Too off topic||
Killed a bunch of threads that are way too OT. Let's keep threads to things that would be of interest to people coming to Michigan sports blog. Otherwise things like the Creaning of two more players gets shoved off the list before a lot of people have seen it.
Offseason off-topic: Has to be at least tangentially related to Michigan sports fans interests.
In-Season off-topic: Other NCAA teams, general U-M and Ann Arbor things, B1G things.
Always on topic: Michigan athletics things, Michigan opponent things
|7 weeks 3 days ago||That's called the "profit."||
That's called the "profit." Brian and I don't pay ourselves--not even for our own writing--from this until all the overhead is covered. We set the kickstarter to cover the general overhead of production. If it makes just $30k we did it for free. That's not exact--each backer creates overhead because books are not cheap to produce or mail and t-shirts are even more expensive. Afterwards we gamble on how many to print for aftermarket sales, and there's still extra shipping costs and whatnot we accrue. Basically the kickstarter covers the things you get in the kickstarter, including producing the book. After that we try to make money because wives get pretty upset when we don't.
FWIW the breakdown is 30% to Seth, 30% to Brian, 40% to the site. HTTV proceeds are most of the capital for ventures like when we bought a new server and now for the grand site redesign Brian will get to one of these days.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||I was asked to participate in||
Because we were doing HTTV with that group I was asked to participate in the advance conversations that led to Webber's book. It's going to rival Pete Rose for most fictional biography in sports. You'll note nobody would publish it except the creep who promised to get HTTV in every store to get us to print way too many copies, then let your books sit on the shelves for weeks and sold diddly shit.
Webber is going to end up with a lot of boxes of unsold books at his own expense. The two deserve each other.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||The WR depth chart when I arrived at Michigan (1998)||
Split End: Tai Streets (Sr), Diallo Johnson (Sr), Marquise Walker (Fr)
Flanker: Markus Knight (Jr), David Terrell (Fr)
Y-Tight End: Jerame Tuman (Sr), Mark Campbell (Sr), Bill Seymour (So)
U-Tight End: Aaron Shea (Sr), Shawn Thompson (So)
They were pretty good.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Rodriguez||
I wrote an article for MGo when the 2010 receiver class was being assembled called "Whence the Receivers" about how RR planned to make constant 4-verts the next iteration of his spread offense. Instead that happened at Ohio State. FMML.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Well shit.||
|8 weeks 2 days ago||How would these kids get||
How would these kids get "burned?"
I thought the contempt for the public was rather Brandonesque. That this wasn't meant for the public was part of its charm because the performance was uniquely genuine. And the arrangement seemed meant for this informality--it is after all just Michigan's fight song and chants. Michigan fans loved it and that fact could mean a lot to the students and their department. Certainly we could live without it, but there ought to be a good reason to deny it to the public once it's already been viewed by four times the capacity of Michigan Stadium, not the other way around.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Have you checked your email||
Have you checked your email inbox lately? MGoBlog is a magical place where things you wish for can suddenly appear.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||BioDIEPsel is my brother and||
BioDIEPsel is my brother and occasionally me. Anyone with "DIEP" in their names are people I play with.
Make sure you yell lots of GO BLUE! and anti-Spartan crap when you find them because they're all Sparties.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Just a clerical mistake||
Just a clerical mistake because Madej was still live-updating roster data in 2012 when Denard had to play RB, and isn't around now to check off everything licensed for these kinds of mistakes.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Everyone--EVERYONE--is. We||
Everyone--EVERYONE--is. We know theirs, they know ours. There are degrees, particularly degrees of involvement of the coaches (some coaches you have to hide it from, some coaches will turn you if they catch you but won't act on suspicion, some coaches tell you to go talk to Mister X) and the program.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Thinly veiled? I said it||
Thinly veiled? I said it pretty overtly.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||I agreed with you that I was||
I agreed with you that I was stunned Brady fell so far, though I wasn't on Montana level. My basis was Griese was an okay quarterback at that point in history, and I knew Brady was way better than Griese. His '99 comebacks (Indiana needed one, and then the Orange Bowl) sold me on him; in '98 I wasn't a fan so I had to come a long way.
Re:Dhani, I thought he'd be great. His name was just always being spoken on TV, or as the tackler in the Big House, or around campus for some poetry thing or whatever. Dhani seemed like the defense's superstar after Woodson. Him or Renes.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||He did well for those around||
He did well for those around him. Remember he centered the best line in hockey for a few years with Naslund and Bertuzzi.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Huh?||
|9 weeks 4 days ago||I can't tell you how much I||
I can't tell you how much I appreciate this comment. Thank you.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Where did you see an autoplay||
Where did you see an autoplay ad? There shouldn't be any running.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Only the 2013, 2014, and||
Only the 2013, 2014, and hoops books taste like Jimmy Johns.
The 2012 ones were printed on a recycled pulp that's almost identical in smell and texture to a Subway roasted chicken. We've learned a lot since then.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||We're checking it out; 90%||
We're checking it out; 90% sure they're Gildan Heavy Cotton shirts, unless Underground Printing (who supplies them) has changed up suppliers. My understanding is the American Apparel shirts cost us a LOT more, which would add up quickly when we're doing volume like this. They also don't last as long; part of having an annual shirt that's only for the kickstarter people is that it's supposed to last--you can never re-buy it, and it'll become a vintage shirt by being worn until it's vintage. My Woodson shadow shirt is finally entering this phase of its life cycle.
The American Apparel shirts are the shirts UGP prints the defunct sports team etc. shirts on--I designed the Bandwagon '89 shirt specifically for the American Apparels, but every other shirt we've done has been the Gildan heavy. We've always done the Gildan heavy for HTTV.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||When I got to talk to Marcus||
When I got to talk to Marcus Ray for a bit at one of Marlin's events last year I asked him about young safeties and communicating and he was adamant that it's not about youth: football at his level forces kids to grow up early, and there are guys who are confident and communicative and guys who are hesitant and will always be that way, and sometimes there are guys who are way too aggressive but that's rare. He was way more down on Jarrod Wilson than anyone on MGoBlog. But he also brought up Jamar Adams as an example of the right kind of guy and I'm like "they're exactly the same player, down to the uniform number!"
|10 weeks 2 days ago||If you have a nice-ish table||
If you have a nice-ish table (no glare) and a smart phone just take a picture. Just take a long breath and hold your hand steady when you take it.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||yes||
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Can't use just anything we||
Can't use just anything we find because if the author comes forward and says "don't use that" I can't reprint or make it right. Everything has to have the rights tracked or given personally.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Way ahead of you. Dooley is||
Way ahead of you. Dooley is nearly done w/ his article; I have Sap's helment already in this article (by Kryk).
|10 weeks 3 days ago||What about the guy whose||
What about the guy whose adult life began in the middle of the Great Depression, who scratched and clawed all his life to give his children a stable life in Ann Arbor, and took them to football games at Michigan Stadium every fall Saturday since 1950 while saving money to one day send two grandchildren to the University of Michigan, and was attending a Michigan softball game with them when I met him last week?
I appreciate your measured response to my calling you a name. I'm still putting you behind that guy.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||MGoshirts||
|10 weeks 3 days ago||I agree that the NCAA had||
I agree that the NCAA had little under the actual auspices of the NCAA to go on when instituting those sanctions. But this is one of those things--like a vigilante killing a murderer who got off on a technicality--where the actual method of justice disgusted me, but the punishment itself was just.
The NCAA's credibiilty in assessing punishment to Penn State was dubious; that Penn State deserved what they got--and didn't deserve to be let off the hook--is not.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||How to WiFi Before WiFi||
Dr. Labes was the next door neighbor (nice guy, big M fan). So my brother and I decided we'd name the new dog "Doctor Labes." The afternoon of fun we got from this was totally worth the Saturday raking leaves on his lawn afterwards.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||Cool story bro: My brother||
Cool story bro: My brother and his roommates in late college had a wifi named "The Sugar Mines." That's a cute name, but the problem is I'm still friends with all of these guys and whenever I go to their houses they all still have the same WiFi as my brother, and they all believe in changing up their passwords often. None of these people are willing to change the name of their networks after having it for a decade+ and Apple still can't figure out how to solve the "linksys" problem of affecting all networks by that name when you forget one.
Cooler story bro: Mine is Go Go Gadget Internet.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||The word has a particular||
The word has a particular meaning that includes all former students, not just graduates. That's why we have another word for graduates. You're a University of Michigan alum. Go Blue.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||ah that makes more sence.||
ah that makes more sence. easy fix.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Red is Hoke, Orange is||
Red is Hoke, Orange is Harbaugh.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Did I? That would obviously||
Did I? That would obviously be an error.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||I'm totally hoping to revive||
I'm totally hoping to revive this thread I discovered while looking up stuff for today's column formerly known as Hokepoints.
Best athlete I grew up with was Matt Ishbia. He was one of the shortest kids in our grade, and a MASSIVE Michigan fan and because he basically ran recess the rest of the class all became Michigan fans. He lived on my block and bought me the Michigan football we used every recess until the Bad Boys and Fab Five switched us to basketball.
Ishbia ended up being the Andrew Dakich of Michigan State's 2000 Championship team. He took over a department of his dad's company and made it bigger than the company so he's doing well for himself now.
Close behind Ishbia was John Whitledge, a guy who moved here from California and rooted for UCLA. Whitledge was faster than Ishbia by just a little, and had model looks. Last I heard he was a clothing designer.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Ask Joey if he remembers Cat||
Ask Joey if he remembers Cat Rychlinski. She married one of my best friends--has twins plus a newborn and lives in Kentucky now.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||When someone applies the||
When someone applies the adjective "real" to "fan" my eyes climb into the tippytoppomost of my skull. There they'll remain they can be coaxed down with promises of things either the sun or the daughter are doing.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||I got far enough into that||
I got far enough into that game to reach a quest where you have to choose what to do about a pair of friends you discover have been hooking up. "Tell on them" is the answer that leads you to the most light points. There's your contrast between my view on the moral ambiguity of sex versus George Lucas's Paulish take on the same.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||yeah. Also expect a question||
Also expect a question in to YOU soon on an article about HSPs.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||From the podcasts. Brian||
From the podcasts. Brian calls them that all the time.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Close. You found the||
Close. You found the abandoned port-a-potties at base camp 1 in the foothills.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Unfortunately, like||
Unfortunately, like quarterbacks, OSU has so much fan goodwill they can afford to burn off a ton without effect.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Wrong on all accounts. The||
Wrong on all accounts. The sentiment around here is has long been we need facilities, and are glad Michigan has the very best, and need recruits, and seem to be getting some damn good ones, and we need spring attendance, and are really happy that this one had it.
And lest you forget the movement to remove the guys who thought we'll win because we're MIchigan began here.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||Let's let Beilein recruit||
Let's let Beilein recruit 3-stars and J.J. Abrams submit his take on Star Wars before bringing in the amateurs.
That I could come up with a far better plot than George Lucas for the prequels is an indictment of George Lucas more than anything else.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||It's contracts. 7 years is||
It's contracts. 7 years is the max length of a rookie contract, or how long he'll be restricted as a free agent. Guys who don't have it will peter out as teams give up on them, but teams will tend to hold onto assets they control; a guy who's just hanging on at the conclusion of that is less likely to be retained.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||I've got a question in to||
I've got a question in to Battier, who's a facebook friend, to see if I can get him to pop into the thread and reminisce.
I've never actually met him in person (just seen him in Birmingham) but our mutual friends hit some critical mass a few years ago and he was reading my posts.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||People said C-Webb's DCD team||
People said C-Webb's DCD team was unbeatable but when I was in high school they had Shane Battier and a handful of other guys who went to D-I schools. They won every game like 100-12.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||For his era he was the best||
For his era he was the best hitter of any shortstop except Ripken* and the best fielder except Ozzie Smith. Trammell was as consistently good in every facet of baseball as Barry Larkin, and better in every single facet of baseball, at a more important position, than Ryne Sandberg. In a pitcher's era Tram was on pace for 12 years to finish over .300 until injuries decimated the last handful he stuck around for. Ironically if he'd done steroids like half the league and 75% of the guys his age still in baseball by the mid-'90s there'd be no question right now.
Of the players to go to the Hall since Trammell's first year on the ballot, I'd only put Maddux, Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, Tony Gwynn, Rickey Henderson, and Cal Ripken again of Tram, though I wouldn't disclude the rest. Tram just happened to hit the list when people who hadn't watched him were doing most of the voting and this bullshit "good but not GREAT" label got slapped on him. What's a great shortstop then? Like four shortstops ever had better careers by the standards of the Hall of Fame than Alan Trammell. If a guy you're reading has a vote and doesn't give it to #3 he knows nothing about baseball and you should tell him you're not reading him anymore.
(And Halls of Fame are just museums to celebrate history of the sport and thus irrelevant in the scheme of things unless you're the kind of person who gets really upset over the disclusion of apatasours from dinosaur exhibits that claim to be comprehensive).
* Unless you want to count Yount as a SS but he split betweent that and OF
|11 weeks 5 days ago||Have you READ MGoBlog? I do a||
Have you READ MGoBlog? I do a fair enough job of keeping my rant on Alan Trammell to BlessYouBoys but surely you've noticed a rather hefty number of mentions of a certain slot receiver/cornerback/returner who gets like six snaps per game.
|11 weeks 6 days ago||HARBAUGH would have covered||
HARBAUGH would have covered the entire chart.
|11 weeks 6 days ago||I've never heard of Drake. I||
I've never heard of Drake. I swear. I had no idea until your post that was the name of the rapper, because I didn't even read that far in the article. I just typed in "music news" in google this morning hoping to find something of zero importance that I have never thought about to go in the chart, and right near the top was a thing about Madonna, whom I have heard of and can name many songs from.
|11 weeks 6 days ago||ABSOLUTELY! The love triangle||
ABSOLUTELY! The love triangle Lucas left out of the movies was one of the biggest oversights in a film that will go down as a textbook study of them. There was a deep pool of psychological and thematic characterization in that love triangle and i'll never forgive George Lucas for passing that up in favor of Jar Jar poop jokes.
FIrst of all Anakin should be older, a snotty teenager, when we meet him. It would make it more palatable that he's already got podracing skills, and also understandable why he'd be down with leaving his slave mom to go off planet with some monkish dudes with laser swords.
The age gap between him and Amidala should have been equal to that of her and Obi Wan to emphasize the dynamic--say 5 years each so they're 13, 18, and 23. That allows Anakin's nasty side to come out right away but also to be dismissed as teen-itude. It also makes it obvious why Amidala/Padme would be all up on the older soon-to-be-Jedi Knight who does heroic things and dismissive of the kid with a crush on her. This sets up a second film (when they're 18, 23, and 28 respectively) when we contrast Obi Wan spurning the relationship with Padme he desired because that's what Jedis are supposed to do, and Anakin being like "Eff that; Jedi should be the ones deciding what Jedi do."
The love triangle would have thus driven the moral subtext of all three films. Anakin is turned off the Jedi by their unreasonable doctrinal demands--the celibacy thing chief among them--and Padme may serve as the audience's moral conduit as she fights with Obi Wan over the subject, then hooks up with Anakin in part to demonstrate Obi Wan and the Jedi that their priestly otherness is wrong and only separates them from human(oid)istic concerns. But that turns to horror as step-by-step Anakin walks down his path to fascism. In the end of the 2nd film she discovers she's pregnant, and tells Obi Wan not Anakin because she's starting to see Anakin is carrying a shit ton of psychological baggage from 13 years as a slave.
In the last film, the babies are born and hidden early on, and Obi Wan breaks his Jedi vows by finally sleeping with her and is cast out of the Jedi Order ("I was once a Jedi Knight the same as your father.) This explains why Obi Wan became kind of a free agent instead of one of the Jedi, and therefore rose to the rank of General under Bail Organa in the Clone Wars under the organization that would become the Rebel Alliance, as opposed to the Jedi Order which was wiped out except for Yoda.
As the 3rd story nears its conclusion, Anakin discovers all this, goes to track down Obi Wan, and finds Amidalah, at which point he's so overcome by rage he kills her--Not "from a broken heart" but from going RAGE on her with blue lightning over this betrayal. This raises the stakes of the final lightsaber duel between him and Obi Wan to epic proportions. They fight to a draw--the lava thing works but I'd have it so Anakin is cajoling Obi Wan into a dual-suicide finale and Obi Wan walks away instead, leaving Anakin to try to survive on a lava island or whatever. Obi Wan finds redemption for his "crime" by taking up hermitage on Tatooine to watch over his lover's baby son (along with mutual war buddy Owen Lars). Anakin crawls through lava, survives, and finally accepts the Emperor's offer to train him to control and channel his anger lest it consume him again.
It would also conveniently explain why Darth Vader won't use the dark side power of blue lightning (badly explained in canon as having to do with length of time served in the dark or whatever), preferring to duel Obi Wan and Luke with lightsabers in IV, V, and VI. When Vader ultimately turns on the Emperor for blue lightning-ing Luke, it's the ultimate redemption. Look at Vader's "face" here, and then imagine if he's literally watching the worst sin he ever committed being played out again:
...and having a chance to change it.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||Was Ed in Hawaii?||
Was Ed in Hawaii?
|12 weeks 2 days ago||This is why we're into Aussies||
Watch how punting works here:
AFL players learn to get punts off from everywhere on a huge oval field while the other team is trying to tackle them. It is the primary offensive play, the way they score, and the way they long pass (to pass you have to punch it like a volleyball so hand passes are pretty limited in range). Everybody punts so you can get a really good athlete who's been punting the ball his whole life.
Put an Australian in an American football punting formation, where he has guys blocking for him, he gets to wear pads, and the other team's not even allowed to hit him, and once he's done laughing he will kick ass.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||I love your work, but I'm||
I love your work, but I'm going to criticize this one because I don't like the concept.
The point of Godfather II is Michael does things with every bit as much competence and more than his father at the same age, as he sees it. He tries to take the Corleone family legitimate AND to new levels of money by trading in the New York racketeering business for casinos in Nevada and Cuba. He tries to be a better father, which he takes as literally defending his family, and figuratively defending his family by not involving them as much as possible in the family businsess.
But where his father builds willing loyalties (e.g. from a local landlord) with his cool geniality, Michael's cold logic and self-centeredness drive both his wife and his surviving brother to betray him. It ends with Vito's family around the table celebrating his birthday and mad at Michael for betraying Vito's wishes re: enlisting in the Army, and Michael sitting in a massive Nevada complex all alone.
It is surely one of the greatest stories told in recent memory, but I find nothing Harbaugh about it. I've made two Godfather MIchigan reference backgrounds--Donovan Warren having Fredo killed, and The Rodfather III for Rodriguez's third season that was conceptually great but undermined terribly by a bit of nepotistic blindness (listening to Gibson = Sophia Coppola). If there's a Harbaugh-like character in here it's probably Vincent Mancini.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||90% Stays with the team he||
90% Stays with the team he shaped into a consistently competitive franchise again.
9% Goes to another pro team
1% Comes to Michigan
...is what I said last October about Harbaugh.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||He committed to MIchigan then||
He committed to MIchigan then went on a 2-year mission.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||Maybe using an old version? I||
Maybe using an old version? I did that with a list.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||OT: Buckeye Early Enrollee Given the Broom||
|12 weeks 4 days ago||Next home game is a week from||
Next home game is a week from friday v Indiana. Grass seats are $3, bleachers $8, seatbacks $10.
I recommend bleachers for 2 reasons:
Though regarding #2, if you're like me you might want to brush up on the faces of the players before you go, else find yourself in the embarassing situation of meeting a guy you could pump out 900 words about but don't recognize.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||Harbaugh & American Sniper||
Deleted just the most political things, e.g. the guy who thinks F150s are poltiical statements, and a few that generated long political threads that were easiest to nip at the top.
Keep an eye on it.
[UPDATE: now locked, one relateively older poster banned for overt racism that tipped it over the edge. Thread was devolving into a spattering of people too quick to take offense, and a whole slew of assholes far too willing to give it.]
[UPDATE UPDATE: Cleaned up thread a tiny bit and handed out one more ban for someone who was all over the thread whipping up politics.]
|12 weeks 4 days ago||CSG should track down every||
CSG should track down every student who signed either petition, lock them in the League basement, force them to watch the movie together, then discuss it in an open forum for 2 hours. That would give us about 4 and a half blessed hours in Ann Arbor minus 400 college students of the type who GAF what movie they play on campus movie night.
Also if anyone would like to sign a petition or a counter-petition regarding the head coach of the football team and whether he should GAF about what movie they play on campus movie night, you may also participate in the screening and after-chat.
CSG could sponsor this event, which I am calling "A Night of Softball Without Annoying Students Who GAF What Movie They Play on Campus Movie Night." We will watch softball and speak of pleasant things together, like how nice it is that we finally have an insane person coaching our football team.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||THanks so much Sharik! I||
THanks so much Sharik!
I gotta start running these by you again before I post. At least I'm learning--you're hard on Henry and I see why but from an offense perspective I thought Cole made a good play by exploding off the line and hitting Henry before Willie and Blake have even made contact with each other. Is there a technique that can stop a tackle with that much get-off from blasting you down?
|12 weeks 4 days ago||I don't see any. All of the||
I don't see any. All of the "yours" are possessives, e.g. "Dammit [person] and your [thing you did]."
|12 weeks 4 days ago||It was Kerridge. [meaningful||
It was Kerridge.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||Echo what Jon Ross had to say in the 11W thread|
|12 weeks 4 days ago||probably didn't get 30||
probably didn't get 30 upvotes there.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||Yeah it's pretty hard to||
Yeah it's pretty hard to argue this one. To play Devil's Advocate, if OSU team docs are legit that's not something an 18-year-old wants to hear. This is pretty smokey though.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||How did you get to this||
How did you get to this answer before me?!?
|12 weeks 5 days ago||I'm not loving it either.||
I'm not loving it either.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||done.||
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Sometime in the process of||
Sometime in the process of winning six of the last seven, the most recent without even being competitive. The meme began in the Podcast after the 2013 game and still primarily gets brought up in that and Brian's speaking engagements.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Econ final same day French||
Econ final same day French term paper due
|13 weeks 5 days ago||April fools||
I like holidays, but people saying "MGoBlog claimed Peppers tore his ACL as an April Fools prank" would be the result and we would lose credibility.
Unless someone says different I subscribe to the "no damage of any kind" moral judgment of April Fools joking. This causes damage, namely to us.
|14 weeks 1 day ago||1. play video in browser 2.||
1. play video in browser
2. hit "print screen" when it gets to a part with the captioning
3. hit "paste" in image software
4. crop the rest of my screen including 90 articles I've been planning to read dating back to last fall (I PROMISE I'LL GET TO THEM EVENTUALLY GRANTLAND!)
5. Drag image file onto mgoserver in filezilla.
|14 weeks 1 day ago||READ TERRY PRATCHETT AND||
READ TERRY PRATCHETT AND WATCH BASKETBALL NEITHER OF THESE THINGS IS ON THE INTERNET WAIT I GET PAID WHEN YOU'RE ON THIS SITE READ MORE MGOBLOG I FEEL LIKE MY NARRATIVE VOICE DOESN'T MATCH the capsing anymore nevermind this thread's gonna die anyhow.
|14 weeks 1 day ago||WATCHING FUCKING BASKETBALL||
WATCHING FUCKING BASKETBALL WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE GO WATCH BASKETBALL
STOP BLOWING UP THE INTERNET GO WATCH BASKETBALL
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Re: California I should have||
Re: California I should have noted that Morgan Trent moved to Michigan (Brighton) in early HS and went to OLSM before coming to Ann Arbor.
|14 weeks 4 days ago||You, sir, are welcome to be||
You, sir, are welcome to be on my lawn.
|14 weeks 4 days ago||It was the Big Ten we were||
It was the Big Ten we were waiting on. Ferentz had made it clear-ish that he doesn't care about Urban Meyer's problems.
|14 weeks 4 days ago||I like the Brady era sleeves||
I like the Brady era sleeves a lot, but I'm meh on more 'M's. Except for some of the uniformz what they've done with the away jerseys over the years hasn't bothered me. The one time I really got up in arms about the outfits was when they had to cancel the pre-gaming meeting for the trash tornado as everyone changed into the bumblebees. That time could have been spent rehashing the gameplan so we don't come out testing them deep in 45 mph winds.
|14 weeks 4 days ago||Been planning an H4 on that.||
Been planning an H4 on that.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||I like the Tom Izzo Excuse||
I like the Tom Izzo Excuse Factory. I love it when a coach whines about what's going on even if the same thing and worse is probably going on for the other team and 200 other teams besides. I love that he starts each excuse with a paralipsis: "this loss was my fault, it's on me, but their guys were holding and bumping a lot out there and it's hard to coach when the other team isn't following the rules and not getting called for it, but I got to coach around that it's on me I have to do better."
Coaches should be screwball fans all the time. That way fans won't be able to shame each other all the time by following A newspaper columnist's sense of "sportsmanship."
|15 weeks 1 day ago||My point on Bolden was he OR||
My point on Bolden was he OR Ross could have redshirted. Gedeon absolutely could have since he was the 4th guy in a three-man rotation. Gedeon saw only a few snaps against Akron and though that game mattered, Gedeon's performance wasn't any better than we had out of the three starters. That was the year Morgan, Bolden and Ross were rotating in the MLB/WLB positions. They didn't need Gedeon to burn his redshirt.
The year before was a little different because Bolden was the early enrollee and most vocal guy on the unit, but Ross started passing him in late fall, and they made the decision to let them compete for the backup job behind Morgan. At the time and now I've been saying the same thing: redshirt ONE of those guys--whoever's behind at the last fall practice.
|15 weeks 1 day ago||This part I agree with and||
This part I agree with and always did:
I kept using Wilson as an example. Even though he only played about 12 snaps that would make it into a statistician's list of plays, he was 2nd on the depth chart at deep safety and was going to be starting most likely the following year. You have to play him, even though he's a guy you would probably get a better 5th year out of, because the team needed him playing.
You're missing the 1 cent $20 hypothesis entirely. It's 1 cent for, say, 55% chance at $20. It's from a mindfuck that gets passed around emails and the like where people are asked if they'd take $5 now or $50 in two years, but there's a 10% chance they won't remember to pay it (and you could die, etc.). Most people take the $5 but that is mathematically the wrong decision, because our brains are wired for instant gratification. The point is you're giving up a cent if Marvin Robinson rather than Dymonte Thomas is your punt and kickoff gunner for a season, and that's worth it for a 55% shot at a 5th year starting safety Dymonte Thomas.
|15 weeks 1 day ago||He relented on QBs and OL||
He relented on QBs and OL after I made that list.
We did refute the math. In fact we completely blew it up. The flaws in that argument we exposed are twofold:
1) 5th years are an option. So aftef four years:
Cycling more players through the program just to cycle them defeats the point of having more players coming through the program: more options.
2) Most of the 85 scholarships are not seeing significant playing time in any given season, so you are not using guys you were already not using.
The whole point of redshirting is you are giving up a miniscule amount of productivity for a shot a high level of productivity and no downside. He tried to argue this by saying coaches will hold onto 5th years to be safe but I showed over the last 20 years Michigan under various coaches let enough 5th years go unrenewed that Harbaugh would have to be dramatically more loyal/conservative than Carr for this to be a concern.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||Isaiah Thomas. Not Isiah the||
Isaiah Thomas. Not Isiah the Piston -- the one who was with Phoenix until recently. Shorter, great feel for the game and decent offensive abilities. But I'm not the hoops expert so I bet you other readers can come up with better.
|15 weeks 3 days ago||Don't forget Bacon. Oh man||
Don't forget Bacon. Oh man now I wish you'd done this. That could have been my presentation: we bring these kids in and don't tell Brian what's about to be pitched to him.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||I understood he wasn't but I||
I understood he wasn't but I don't remember where i got that from.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||Let me get my argument straight||
Conceptually we agree: I want minor conference champions to get an autobid, but I want them to draw a line between minor conferences and a wholly different level of competition that "Division I" no longer does.
What bothers me that a three-game winning streak in the SWAC earns that team a bid over a more deserving minor conference team that had a much better season. Murray State didn't lose from November 30 until a 1-point upset in the Ohio Valley Conference Tournament, which happened to be held in the home city of the team that upset them. But there's only one autobid for the OVC and precious few spots for at-large teams.
Michigan proved what it is this year against plenty of top competition while 15 seeds sometimes make surprising runs they otherwise would never had the opportunity to play.
The NCAA could throw more really good teams into the mix if it opened up some spots it doesn't need to preserve, and when there are two minor conferences so dramatically behind the other minor conferences, those autobids become low-hanging fruit. A great SWAC or MEAC season can still get a bid--and they have in the past. I just don't think the NCAA needs to (sometimes additionally) save a spot for a conference tournament that on average yields a team that would have six wins if it played in the MAC.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||Nevermind was posted 28 hrs before me||
From title my first thought was this guy was born Sept 24, 1991
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Lewan's twosie||
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Ojemudia forever!||
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Alan Branch killing things then walking away.||
|15 weeks 6 days ago||My first gif for consumption (none of these are memes shut up)||
|15 weeks 6 days ago||The time I changed Brian's avatar||
|15 weeks 6 days ago||
|15 weeks 6 days ago||That one time someone read||
That one time someone read Dear Diary.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Bythe got expensive as hell||
Bythe got expensive as hell and we can use Twitter for free. I hope Twitter gets better at it. Find me a new system that isn't more expensive than any sponsor should be asked to pay and I can try to sell it.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||I feel like Serville gets the||
I feel like Serville gets the A.J. Williams treatment around here. We mad that Trouba and Merrill left, and you can't get mad at freshmen for being freshmen, or Chiasson because he's Heiko's size, or Lohan because he's Lindsay's 6'5 cousin. But then here's a drafted senior who's 6'3 and over 200 (by now right?) who should be 1st pair by now and instead his game is still full of "argh." I think on a deeper team Serville should have gotten a look as a grind line winger. He's never been the guy I want back there, but he's a guy I think would do well chasing somebody super talented around the ice. He can skate fine.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Nobody's arguing that||
Nobody's arguing that immediate starters should start. These are all arguments to immediately burn the redshirts of Matt Godin and Jeremy Clark and Jehu Chesson (OP has since backed off on QBs, OL and TEs) so you won't be tempted to bring them back in 2016, and so they'll be a smidge more motivated, and so Michigan can take a swings on recruiting six more guys after Andre Criswell.
You're making a blanket statement but where are the exceptions? What if a true freshman is indistinguishable from four seniors at his position? What if a true freshman slot receiver is a smidge better than your 2nd string slot receiver, and you use a slot receiver on 2% of plays? What if a highly athletic guy who played a different position than you plan to use him gives your punt coverage team an average 0.05 yards per punt over the course of the season?
|15 weeks 6 days ago||You could apply all of those||
You could apply all of those guys to every one of those answers. I just broke them up by position because there were so many. Read it as if I'm saying there's like a hundred seasons worth that we got back by ignoring each of your ancillary concerns. Or if you back off on TE and OL and QBs, there's 73 guys left, including Drake Johnson, Allen Gant, Chris Wormley, Jehu Chesson, Jeremy Clark, Matthew Godin, Tom Strobel, and Willie Henry who thanks to voluntary redshirts will still be around in 2016, or not if Michigan chooses not.
What about DL, for whom size and technique are huge? Or LBs who need to learn quick read/reactions? Or receivers, who stand out if they're ludicrous athletes but otherwise dramatically improve year by year with better routes and moves and understanding of coverages just like quarterbacks? Or safeties who are the quarterbacks of the defense these days and who modern offenses pick on the most? I'll make this same case for everyone but RBs and CBs to argue about whether they should give up their 5th years for all the other reasons.
If Ohio State has a weakness it's that Urban has a deserved reputation as a dishonest guy for pulling maneuvers like that. We shouldn't emulate bad things they do because they are sucessful at them.
The value judgements we're making are provable. Attrition is a relatively known rate (the 55%s are rare and speak to major things going on beyond the scope of a program for which redshirting is reguarly an option) , and an experienced starter's projected value to a team is calcuable as is the value of a spot special teamer. We already know a starter versus a special teamer is 20-to-1 because PAN says so.
The last shred of "you don't know" comes from "well coaches see things and players are motivated in ways you plebes don't understand." Three, four years ago I'd give you that, but I've spent the intervening time talking with lots of football guys and I call BUULLLLLLLLSHIT. Coaches want to win and keep their jobs (which is not the same thing as longterm program health). Players want to play, keep their scholarships, stay healhty, and make it to the NFL. Both groups include some of the most highly motivated people in the country. Players and coaches also plot just like any other groups of people: some are forward-thinking and others are very now-oriented. Defeating our psychology and doing the right thing is what we use hard things like math for. The team is best served by having better, bigger, faster, stronger, better coached, better prepared players and that's what redshirting gives you for pennies on the dollar.
Thirty more recruits every 5 years is yummy, but the value of extending the bottom of your recruiting class is far less than an option on a 5th year on your recruiting class. You presume because Michigan averages 3.7 stars that we'll get 4-stars, but every recruit is a guy you have to sell on the school and the program, and extending the class brings diminishing returns.
What you're getting is first to sixth guy(s) they were going to offer after Jason Foster ('96), Will Peterson (97), Deitan Dubuc, Greg Brooks, James Taylor, Jacob Stewart, Spencer Brinton, Paul Sarantos, Brandent Englemon, Grant DeBenedictis, Andre Criswell, John Ferrara, Marrell Evans, Justin Feagin, Teric Jones, D.J. Williamson, Tamani Carter, Reon Dawson, Brady Pallante, or whoever ends up being the last guy in this class. A few more swings even in that pool is bound to produce some good players--never a Heisman--but optional 5th years are dramatically better bets, AND they're optional, so if they're not better bets you can still go recruit the next guy down the list. At best you find an Englemon; some years you're offering the sixth guy you wanted after Andre Criswell.
What you're talking about are ONLY ancillary benefits. There are ancillary benefits of redshirting too: a year to get acclimated to college life and classes, less coursework in individual semesters (though this is offset at Michigan by NCAA's credit hour demands and Michigan's annoying habit of making high-level courses fewer credit hours, and that most 5th years graduate in December), a far lower chance of transferring, and for the player it makes him more worth the coaches' limited time.
The overwhelming evidence supports redshirting guys who won't be playing valuable snaps (Wilson played valuable snaps) because it's a 1-for-1 trade of a year when a player is of not much use to you, for a year when you can keep him if he's of use to you and don't have to if he's not.
And to address something from the thread above: Harbaugh's Stanford 80-percent retention rate times $15 = $12.00 = FOUR times $3.00.
Side note: stop saying Mike Hart when you want to point out a 3-star. Hart went to a tiny school in NY who popped onto their radars because he was suddenly shredding NY State records, and as soon as they saw his film Michigan was all over him despite having Dave Underwood, Jerome Jackson, Pierre Rembert, and Tim Bracken ahead, 4-star Max Martin in his class, AND 5-star all-everything Kevin Grady already committed for the following season. That was a weird under-the-radar thing that happens less often now that private (OLSM) and magnet (Cass Tech) schools recruit more. You aren't getting a potential Mike Hart when you take a consensus three-star, or a Jake Ryan for that matter. You get those guys by culling the lower ranks of high schools where standouts are beating up on future dentists and bloggers, and getting lucky enough to stumble upon the rare thing, know what you've found, and he wants to come to your school. Because Michigan got lucky once does not raise the chances that we will get even more lucky in a completely different scenario.
|16 weeks 18 hours ago||and Ryan Mundy was only a||
and Ryan Mundy was only a medical redshirt. I was going for non sequitur
|16 weeks 19 hours ago||You Said: "Most freshman that||
Here are 131 anecdotes of when you were wrong:
Zach Adami, Kurt Anderson, David Baas, Jeff Backus, Greg Banks, Ricky Barnum, Willis Barringer, Rondell Biggs, Mark Bihl, Grant Bowman, Eric Brackins, Tom Brady, David Brandt, Steve Breaston, Joey Burzynski, Tyrece Butler, Mark Campbell, Clint Copenhaver, Shawn Crable, Julius Curry, Markus Curry, Kenny Demens, Joe Denay, Carl Diggs, Perry Dorrestein, Scott Dreisbach, Kevin Dudley, Tyler Ecker, Brandent Englemon, Obi Ezeh, Juaquin Feazell, Jay Feely, John Ferrara, Adam Finley, J.T. Floyd, Steve Frazier, Jake Frysinger, Jeremy Gallon, Brendan Gibbons, Jason Gingell, Graham Glasgow, Cameron Gordon, Thomas Gordon, Brian Griese, James Hall, David Harris, Will Heininger, Leo Henige, Norman Heuer, Victor Hobson, Steve Hutchinson, Mark Huyge, Jon Jansen, DiAllo Johnson, Will Johnson, Bennie Joppru, Anthony Jordan, Cato June, Joe Kerridge, Mike Kolodziej, Jordan Kovacs, Adam Kraus, Mike Kwiatkowski, Shawn Lazarus, Kevin Leach, Matt Lentz, Jeremy LeSueur, Taylor Lewan, Jake Long, K.C. Lopata, Roy Manning, Tim Massaquoi, Michael Massey, Patrick Massey, Ben Mast, Tim McAvoy, Scott McClintock, John McColgan, Elliott Mealer, Zoltan Mesko, Andy Mignery, David Molk, David Moosman, Courtney Morgan, Mark Moundros, Jonas Mouton, John Navarre, Obi Oluigbo, Patrick Omameh, Mark Ortmann, Tony Pape, Dave Pearson, Dave Petruziello, Marcus Ray, Rob Renes, Joe Reynolds, Rueben Riley, Eric Rosel, Roy Roundtree, Dan Rumishek, Jake Ryan, Stephen Schilling, Michael Schofield, Bill Seymour, Jon Shaw, Aaron Shea, Demeterius Solomon, Glen Steele, Adam Stenavich, Charles Stewart, Jacob Stewart, Rob Swett, Sam Sword, Carl Tabb, Brian Thompson, John Thompson, Shawn Thompson, Fitzgerald Toussaint, Morgan Trent, Jerame Tuman, Jeremy Van Alstyne, Ryan Van Bergen, Jay Vinson, Quinton Washington, Steve Watson, Andre Weathers, Brandon Williams, Josh Williams, Eric Wilson, Pierre Woods, Chris Ziemann.
I'm sure after reading that your palm and your forehead are pretty sore, but please add an extra hard one for each Tom Brady Superbowl victory anway.
Those guys all started (or are expected to start) at least two games as 5th year seniors for Michigan, and were voluntarily redshirted as freshmen (or in Kovac's case, didn't even make the team).
|16 weeks 19 hours ago||My rebuttal||
Darn. /drops mic.
|16 weeks 19 hours ago||Here's the fisk.||
Wahoo fisked your article so thoroughly I initially didn't feel the need to rebut. I think you have a few small, situationally salient considerations that don't in any way constitute a complete argument. They're more like "that would suck if it happens" things.
To rebut your rebut:
|16 weeks 1 day ago||Ringer isn't a very good||
Ringer isn't a very good example since he was hurt that year. He also enrolled early in hopes of winning early PT. We can't really know whether they would have redshirted him otherwise. On one hand he was Larry Foote sized so obvious redshirt. On the other hand there was a ton of competition for WLB and with a spring under his belt he might have been right there with Hawthorne and Herron at the start of the season.
|16 weeks 1 day ago||nice research. Cernak said he||
nice research. Cernak said he was Harbaugh's backup in 1985. It could mean Zurbrugg was 2nd string but Zurb was not very good in '84 so it's plausible Bob passed him.
Anyway that's what i was.going on.
|16 weeks 3 days ago||^This.We're more like 6||
We're more like 6 million in the offseason. When there isn't a coaching change it comes up in August for preseason and then dips every loss, with occasional blips for major recruiting news. Coaching searches are a madhouse. Bad seasons really cut into our numbers.
|16 weeks 3 days ago||Not true||
I'm friends with Kyle Anderson's wife. Apparently he read this thread and said some of these guys weren't quarterbacks that year, and Anderson himself was on crutches in '85.
|16 weeks 3 days ago||The people making the book||
The people making the book are the same scammers who caused us to take a massive loss on HTTV last year (and utterly wiped me out).
I don't care much for Webber either.
|16 weeks 4 days ago||It wasn't a hit piece; if you||
It wasn't a hit piece; if you don't believe me that my intention was informative regarding the state of the roster then I need to earn your trust better.
I can say quite definitively that Hoke's redshirt policy had absolutely ZERO to do with Hoke's diminishing success* over his tenure, because his tenure was four years and the period of effect on a redshirt decision is five years.
So when I say that this is all about setting expectations for 2015-2018, that's not just my opinion or some shade--it's fact. The redshirt decisions of 2011 affect 2015, the redshirt decisions of 2012 affect 2016, etc.
*He won a Sugar Bowl and fixed the defense. You can't say "no" success.
|16 weeks 4 days ago||We're kind of debating all||
We're kind of debating all over this thread now and sorry about that. In this case you're offering to sell us a year we already have.
The burned redshirt doesn't give you insurance against an injury. It's the opposite: a redshirt gives you insurance against the NCAA not giving your guy a medshirt because, for example with Pipkins, your year-long ACL injury happened two snaps too late.
It's the same philosophy as the bond: cash it in for a sure $1 now, or take a 30% chance it won't be worth anything in 4 years (and a 70% chance it will be worth between $15 and $25). The only difference is there's an added 1.5% chance that if you cash it now you might get zero now and get back the 5th year.
Another consideration is injuries ahead of him. If you redshirt him and later his freshman year his position group starts getting really injured, you still have the option to yank the redshirt. In bond terms, if your bond appreciates to $10 all of a sudden, and you need $10 right now for emergency surgery, you have asset either way.
Countess is a straw man. He wouldn't have redshirted in his circumstances because he won a STARTING job. Nobody's arguing you redshirt a starter or even a guy who's going to get substantial rotational snaps on the two-deep. What we're talking about is guy who's not on the two-deep and plays special teams and maybe a few garbage time snaps.
The lesson is the same: if you need him, play him. If you don't need him, redshirt.