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|16 hours 42 min ago||They didn't run much read||
They didn't run much read option in 2011. They did run an inverted veer option, but not correctly, and it didn't really have the option component--they would block the end the real play is supposed to option, and left a linebacker unblocked for Denard to deal with. It worked well because "Denard: I need you to dodge this totally unblocked guy!" actually worked as an offense.
The zone read was in the offense under Gardner, but--and forgive me if this is just reading too much into things--I remember a lot of the time he checked into that, so I imagine it wasn't Borges's intent to call those so often.
Hindsight doesn't matter. In January 2011 the clear move was to retain Magee or if that wasn't doable, retain the offense, which was No. 2 in the country despite every key member of it having SOPHOMORE eligibility or less.
|16 hours 56 min ago||Bullshit. Gray sweatshirts,||
Bullshit. Gray sweatshirts, rattier the better.
|18 hours 2 min ago||Borges was a square peg from||
Borges was a square peg from the get-go. The media always say nice things about the new guy, and we didn't think he would get as bad as he did, but Borges was an adequate OC by 1990s Michigan standards. Like on his way in I'd have said he fits between Stan Parrish and Terry Malone.
But Hoke shouldn't have hired his old buddy nor tried to change the offense. He had two more years of Denard and two of Devin Gardner after that. All he had to do was retain Calvin Magee and let him run the offense. We didn't realize it at the time but Cal said he would have stayed if asked. He loved the players they'd recruited, and wanted to be a head coach one day. And anyone who argues that Magee wouldn't have gotten along with the new staff doesn't know Cal Magee.
|1 day 13 hours ago||Zepplin IV on tape, then||
Zepplin IV on tape, then rebought it a month later on CD.
The CD run was with a bunch of Harmony House gift certificates I got for my 12th birthday (so December 1991). I got IV, Pocket Full of Kryptonite, and Blood Sugar Sex Magik on that trip, the latter two because the girl at the store recommended them as the best new things that year. The gift certificates paid for about 2 1/2 of those.
My friends gave me shit for not getting Nevermind, so we pooled our lunch money (mostly mine) a week or two later to get that and a pack of blank casettes so we could all get a copy.
|1 day 14 hours ago||ty.||
|1 day 16 hours ago||Step up the anti-spam||
We're not going to have any software solutions while Brian's out so please step up your vigilence. Check old threads you've posted in and see if there's new comments.
|2 days 5 hours ago||I would bet that's his||
I would bet that's his instruction too. But in the noise of a night spring game for a guy who's been waiting all his life for this chance to get on the field and prove himself, and who's been cocking it up all night so far, never underestimate how far that instruction might be from his mind at that moment.
|2 days 10 hours ago||I'd like Sharik to weigh in||
I'd like Sharik to weigh in since he watched more than I did, but I watched a lot of Brown's D this winter and I came away believing that he's got some 3-4 in his defense. Often you'll see his Anchor playing a soft edge, and most plays you'll note his linemen attack dudes not gaps right off the snap--only then do they control a gap. His playbook has a lot of two-gapping but those are mostly for passing, with a safety or linebacker or CB responsible for the edge against a run.
On this play as best as I can tell the gap responsibilities are as follows:
However the MLB on a power play becomes a help defender once the RB is committed or his gap doesn't exist anymore. The CB is a force defender and the two safeties are help defenders. The MLB clearly had the A gap--the question is just when is he supposed to abandon that gap? I can't think of anyone else on this play who should have been in the backside A gap. Only thing you can "should" is that Godin should have fought to make the gap smaller by pushing a walk-on guard back. What I don't believe is that a basic 8-man front like this doesn't have an answer for the cutback lane.
|2 days 15 hours ago||It's a hard play yes but||
It's a hard play yes but remember a 4-3 under (which the defense ends up being after the TE shift) has to work like a 3-4. A free MLB has to read and react, and still control his gap as long as the gap exists.
Mone did him a favor (at risk of a hold) by keeping the guard from releasing and leaving the MLB free to react to whatever the feet of the RB are doing. Technically when the front flipped the MLB became the WLB. He's got to think like one: hold your gap until the RB can't get to it, and stay clean. This guy is fighting to get to the frontside B gap when Isaac is running right by him.
So I'm pretty convinced the guy who's running himself out of the play when everybody else is being useful is the culprit. In fact I thought he was the culprit on a lot of the white team's offense in spring.
|2 days 15 hours ago||Ryan Glasgow graduated to the||
Ryan Glasgow graduated to the Blessed Order of St. Kovacs as a sophomore, and might have the order renamed for himself.
Jordan Glasgow was the rover on this play. While he's got the bloodlines and is at a position where depth issues certainly leave room for a walk-on to become a long term starter, he's nowhere near that yet.
|2 days 15 hours ago||I said that||
This guy had a rough spring game. Like as bad as I've seen. But what good does it do us to focus on guys who are never going to play? His screwup was advantageous for us since it gave us an opportunity to see things like:
I didn't want to get overly technical but I'm sure Space Coyote will appear in this thread shortly to explain that when you run this against Under fronts you kinda watch the MLB and see if there's a cutback because it makes life hard on that guy (against an over front usually the frontside is where it's at, for obvious reasons when you look at the alignment). This was an over front when the defense put its hands down:
But by the snap the offense's shift has made it an under front. This:
as far as what each player is doing, is basically this:
|3 days 15 hours ago||Brian already posted a spring||
Brian already posted a spring recap to the front page. It would have been presumptive to post another without him assigning it.
|6 days 19 hours ago||Anonymous NFL sources are the||
Anonymous NFL sources are the worst. Every year they throw these bombs out there for other teams' GMs to step in. Go back far enough and you can find someone saying there's something "off" about Jim Harbaugh, and bringing up when he got kicked off the team for off field issues as a sign that he's not a team player and can't be coached.
That also may explain how he fell all the way to THOSE Bears.
|1 week 12 hours ago||If you did that rather than||
If you did that rather than read this article I would say you have much better time management skills than most of us here.
|1 week 1 day ago||Do a little shopping online||
Do a little shopping online for stuff you're into and that'll be the ads.
There are three levels to the two ad positions where we run network ads:
Also they notice the word "Butt" appears here often and they aren't able to understand that's a person.
|1 week 1 day ago||I don't mind if people||
I don't mind if people adblock us so long as they go to Beveled Guilt once a year and maybe buy a shirt and the book. Been thinking about offering an ad-/guilt-free option to anyone who wants to pay $100 a year or something for a shirt, HTTV, and a free drink at a bar night, something like that.
|1 week 6 days ago||The play design and the||
The play design and the distribution of skills was the point of this article. I tried my best to make it clear throughout that the result of the play was not the main takeaway, since there are backups and backups to backups and a 190-pound guy named Kaminski playing a defensive end position. What's there to learn about Kalis turning MLB #92 into paste? It's more interesting by far that Brown was putting his strong safety in a position like that.
|1 week 6 days ago||It's based on what the||
It's based on what the defense was asking him to do. The offense is aligning as if to run the base Power play, which would go right over Kinnel. Tyree has the tight end in man coverage but he's also got that C gap if the tight end stays in to block. If the TE gets a release there's no help, and if the TE blows Kinnel off the line there's a huge running lane in the exact spot the offense is most likely and most set up to attack. The defense is essentially trusting Kinnel to dominate that matchup, taking care of two hard things to free up the MLB to do an unexpected thing (blitz a gap that the WLB is already blitzing).
|2 weeks 1 day ago||The Big Ten made the same||
The Big Ten made the same call on Ojemudia months ago and that was close to the same case. MSU has two cases pending that are equally open-and-shut. The best I can tell the NCAA committee for this* only meets a few times a year and then they issue a handful of rulings and move on. These seniors should have been expedited, but I haven't seen a lot of other cases this year to suggest that they were overwhelmed.
It could be Iowa did something wrong. Or the Big Ten took too long to rule.
* [Note: I believe the Big Ten rules on 5th year cases. The NCAA has to rule on 6th years. I looked this all up months ago when MSU was trying to bullshit Ed Davis and a DT into 6th years]
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Except the rare invention||
Except the rare invention that totally changes the game, like the shotgun formation, or zone read, or timing routes, or cover 2 defense, a lot of innovation in college football is finding a way to make old things simpler to understand. But coaches are never satisfied (and can't get complacent) so the simple trick turns into a base of a complicated set of instructions and plays, until that too gets simplified, and so on so forth.
If Michigan has a natural niche it's probably that we can collect a more cerebral kind of player than an average school. You still don't want players sitting around doing regression analysis in the middle of a play. But if (not saying they are) M targets more cerebral guys in general, they can maybe get away with being more NFL-like in their ultimate designs.
Last year I think we were too much the opposite extreme. The defense got really simple, which worked great when we had far better natural athletes than the competition (every game except Ohio State pretty much), and blew up in our faces when we didn't (Ohio State). And this year with new starters at the most cerebral positions--free safety and the middle linebacker spots--not to mention an athlete who has to learn like 8 positions in Jabrill Peppers, maybe getting complicated will blow up in our faces.
I bet you then that we're vastly overestimating how multiple Michigan is going to be right now because we got a new DC and are basing everything off of the stuff he did at BC. BC had different problems than Michigan--they were constantly forced to use athletes who were good at one thing and bad at two things their positions demanded. But BC (and before that UMass) is a pretty good school in a pretty intellectual footprint, so Brown got used to having a lot of subbing and throwing lots of different looks and lots of different guys out there. His DUDES and GUYS could run all the things, but a lot of players on the roster had one or two things they were tasked to do in their package, and were kept off the field otherwise. That's complicated for the DC but not for the players necessarily.
Michigan, other than on the DL, will probably want to keep its starting 11 on the field most drives. So that will mean staying in the base defense ("City", ie Cover 1) most of the time, just like last year.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Me too. I did the whole||
Me too. I did the whole History of Rome and am now on the Guns of Ticonderoga. He's too Great Man Theory though. There were like 2 episodes in the entire history of Rome that dealt with something other than who was in charge or what battles they fought.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||British History Podcast. The||
British History Podcast.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Handle: There was a user||
Handle: There was a user named Seth I had to steal the name from.
Handle before I just used my name: Google Misopogon. I was into the hipster emperor before it was cool.
Avatar: 2008 was a rebuilding year. Made more sense with the Geocities reference that used to be my sub-tag.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Since #125 is almost||
Since #125 is almost assuredly a walk-on who's getting the chance to hang with the football team while getting his degree, that dude probably just feels it's way better to be 125th than 126th.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||read tomorrow's TWO.||
read tomorrow's TWO.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||This isn't the cover...||
This isn't the cover.
But now you know the cover is something we thought was cooler than this.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Craig was there so he'll||
Craig was there so he'll know.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||PICK YOUR TOPIC SOONER BISB||
PICK YOUR TOPIC SOONER BISB OR I'M GIVING YOUR PAGES TO THIS GUY.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Most of the features are in,||
Most of the features are in, the preview portion isn't written yet, and I keep changing what my feature's on.
Incomplete list of features:
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Jerry Kill used to DOMINATE||
Jerry Kill used to DOMINATE this distinction.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||"50" and "70" are the base||
"50" and "70" are the base personnel groupings. From what I can tell "50" means the exact same as "3-4" and "70" means "4-3".
From there they have slightly different FRONTS, numbered 1, 2, 3, 4, etc. So "51" means 3-4, Front #1, "72" means 4-3, Front #2, etc. Those numbers may correspond to the technique of the nose. The fronts are how they align against the offensive line, and will mean slightly different responsibilities.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Brown's philosophy is "Solve||
Brown's philosophy is "Solve your problems with aggression." If we're a bit short on meat, we make up for it by getting in those gaps quickly.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Bo's Wolf was the Strong||
Bo's Wolf was the Strong Safety position. In that 5-2 angle defense pic the Wolf is the safety hanging out off the strong side (left) at about linebacker depth. As you can see he's got linebacker and safety responsibilities. The other safety ranged deep. I don't know what Bo called it but I read a thing once that Miami post-Bo called it the "Dog" safety.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||He was when he committed.||
He was when he committed. When I posted the morning stub I checked all four sites and wrote that he was a consensus 4-star.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||I edited the original post||
I reinstated and modifed the original post so it would say "Happy Easter" instead of "I am going to be patronizing to people who get offended by 'Happy Easter' and then say 'Happy Easter.'"
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Thread reinstated and edited||
Thread reinstated and edited to not be so provacative.
One guy who flamed it was already banned.
In the future if you want to wish a major religion a happy [their holiday] just do so. Saying "this may be controversial" just invites controversy where none exists.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Further comment on the TKE fratboy/Uber driver an future of Gree||
Further comment can go with the other comment in the other thread. I got the sense like the op created a separate thread just to call frat boys douchebags so keep an eye on that.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||For the record, the tree of||
For the record, the tree of punishments is something like this:
|5 weeks 1 day ago||He will indeed start out at||
He will indeed start out at anchor but Brown's already been talking about all the places they'll use him and T is next.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I think the average WoW||
I think the average WoW player these days is like 14 years old. But you can always join a private server to find an older group. When I last played (over a year ago) they talked a ton of Serbian politics.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||He was an All-American||
He was an All-American quarterback and played in the NFL for years after being drafted in the first round by THAT Bears team two months after THAT Superbowl. Not to knock Harbaugh's coaching record, which you can put against most any other guy in the profession on its own, but remember the sports world has been hearing Jim Harbaugh's name now for 34 years, and that, more than rebuilding Stanford and taking the 49ers to the Superbowl, is why Harbaugh's so well known.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||It's in the works but far||
It's in the works but far away from a launch still. This may have been a side effect of trying to pull all the functionality.
|6 weeks 16 hours ago||Distances||
This is how I figured out distances:
That Google Sheet has a script to query Google Maps for a driving distance (or an as-the-crow-fles distance that I used for Hawaii). To avoid repeatedly making those queries I have the formula active in only the top line right now.
Then I took the mileage and multiplied by 1.3, accounting for stops and city driving. It seems that was too much. I'll recalibrate at an average trip speed of 55 mph (right now it's 45).
Why People are Getting Crazy Errors
I only have three possible distances that can show for any given team, for the three possible sites they can play at. If you pull up an impossible matchup (say, Michigan vs Arizona in the 2nd round) it will return the distance to THE ACTUAL SITE of that round.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Use one of the links in this||
Use one of the links in this article or on the sheet to download a copy. I can't have everyone using the same spreadsheet or it gets insane.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||If we end up facing them in||
If we end up facing them in the Final Four I guarantee all 100 of their fans will drive the 9 hours to Houston for it. But it'd be a good matchup.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||I think somebody moved a||
I think somebody moved a cell. Let me know if it's fixed now.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||https://docs.google.com/sprea|
|6 weeks 2 days ago||2. Passing on 1st||
2. Passing on 1st down
Borges ran A TON on 1st down--in 2011 even more than any of RR's teams--but that dropped progressively over his tenure. But that drop entirely a function of Denard vs Devin:
Borges didn't change. He just thought Denard was a running back and Gardner was Tom Brady. He never got to 50/50. He did become slightly less than the 2/3rds of the time 1st down run rate of Rich "The Spread 'n Shred Offense guy" Rodriguez. Nussmeier was 50/50.
3. On TE usage by RR and FB usage by Nuss and Borges
I think you're mixing up Borges trying to I-form with Denard against Iowa in 2011 and Rodriguez in 2010, who used an I-form 3-wide formation they used ONCE before Forcier came in. He did use it a bunch for a Forcier drive because Forcier sucked at zone read anyway, so they built him a zone stretch/IZ/ISO/Power/Waggle package out of that 3-wide I-form (no TEs) with Kevin Grady at fullback. That was the "drive of RAGE" that ended with a Minor TD. The next drive Iowa adjusted, and after that it was comeback time.
For both 2009 and 2010 RR learned to use TEs more often. He inherited Koger and Webb, but didn't have any guys behind those two. At West Virginia RR typically didn't use TEs; he liked having a "Superback" instead. When they did start using TEs however, they only rarely put both on the field. And those 3TE sets that shift the average were non-existant.
So why did 2009 have more TE usage than 2010? Look at the WR sets. 2009 was the year a lot of the WRs were injured or sick or unavailable for other reasons, so Rich Rod rarely went more than 3-wide. Odoms, Hemingway, Savoy, and T-Rob all missed time. Roundtree, a skinny ass RS freshamn, was the starting slot and leading receiver. Mathews was hobbled. Stonum needed glasses. In 2010 they could use a lot more 4-wide sets because RR could play any of 'tree, Stonum, Hemingway, Odoms, Grady, or Gallon.
As for Fullbacks by Hoke's OCs, Nussmeier rarely had more than one, and Borges used one about 1 in 3 plays. Harbaugh had a fullback in there over half the time.
4. Backfield formation. Your memory is good on the sack rates, but bad on the context:
You remember all those sacks against shotgun passes because Michigan would burn its first two downs running despite not knowing how to, then put Gardner in a shotgun, burn a tight end to help Lewan's side, and watch him get chased by the inevitable up-the-middle rush.
On standard downs however the Ace formation led to a higher sack rate than the gun.
5. No, the Shotgun was still the most effective formation in 2013, though the Ace was kinda close:
Again this is standard downs. At least from the guy they gained yards 2/3rds of the time. If you look at the line of 0 or negative plays (including interceptions), the only formation that really stood out was the Pistol.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||It wasn't ace it was me. I||
It wasn't ace it was me.
I don't have time today. maybe tomorrow morning.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||1. Formations: Why did you||
1. Formations: Why did you think Rich Rod used more I-form as he went along? In 2008 he used the West Virginia spread in its most basic form. In 2009 he played around more with under center stuff because he was starting Forcier. But in 2010 he went with Denard--even the goal line plays were shotgun.
Pistol was 10% of the 2013 offense, and 5% of the 2014 offense on standard downs. Those are the only years it made regular appearances.
Like most Hoke offenses, they started out with more I-forms and Ace formations, and became more shotgun the more the reality of their roster intruded on that fantasy.
Except when kicking Indiana's butt allowed them to do otherwise, after the Minnesota game Michigan was a base shotgun because you'd have to be an idiot not to.
I'll get to the rest later.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Usually a defense gets||
Usually a defense gets charted for two pass rushers on a standard "4-man rush" since you've got DL burrowing into OL or spying at the LOS.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||I think there's a different||
I think there's a different story. Actually two.
First, schedule strength. The games I have charted are:
2014: App State, ND, Miami(NTM), Utah, Minn, PSU, MSU, Indiana
For comparison's sake let's say the matching teams were about the same. Then ASU=UNLV. So it's ND and Miami vs Oregon State, BYU, Maryland, and Northwestern. Maryland had Ngakoue, BYU was one of the better pass rushing teams due to their great DE.
Not appearing for last year: the M00N game, and a really bad protection day against Maryland (Ohio State is excised both years but 2014 OSU had 5 sacks).
Second, the 2014 OL got better as the season progressed.
Despite none of those teams being at all blitzy, Michigan's OL hovered between 71 and 74 percent protection in the first four games. But they were at near 87% against Penn State's ridiculous DL, and 100% against Indiana. So even if they fell off at the end of the season against very good DL in Ohio State and Maryland, we talked a lot about how Cole progressed as a true freshman from lost-ish to solid, and Braden was even okay by the end of the year.
As for 2015, the line was up and down every week. They struggled against Utah, BYU and Penn State, and got mauled by Michigan State, but hit 85% or higher the rest of the way. The charts must be consulted but if I had to guess I'd say Drevno was focusing more on installing his power running game for one, and two there are physical limitations of Mags and Cole as the edge blockers against elite rushers.
Keep in mind Taylor Lewan and Mike Schofield were on a lot of the lines we're comparing those guys against.
Anyway the point is 2014's OL was bad at the beginning of the year but by mid-season they were fine, but that lacking a true tackle (Braden, Mags and Cole all are best inside) they couldn't really get better than that.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Does ESPN really need a||
Does ESPN really need a fucking 30 second commercial to watch a 15-second clip?
|7 weeks 1 day ago||FINE I'll write some football||
FINE I'll write some football content for today.
But you may not like it.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||There's a hierarchy of||
There's a hierarchy of scholarships that starts w football so if Drake earns a track scholly he still counts against football. otherwise schools wouldn't have track teams.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Against Tennessee, Rutgers, and Penn State.||
Longtime user absolutely should have known better than to post a worthless, politically pointed rally cry as a DIARY!
Sent to Bolivia. Points back on November 9, i.e. he can't start any threads until after the election.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Way too hard to predict||
Way too hard to predict things.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||I can do that but after the||
I can do that but after the kid goes to bed.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||YOU'RE GIVING AWAY THE||
YOU'RE GIVING AWAY THE CLOTHES MY WIFE PICKED OUT ESPECIALLY FOR YOU?!?!?!?
Maybe organize a swap in a parking lot after the spring game?
|8 weeks 6 days ago||it probably still works||
it probably still works without spelling it out, in which case we could get away with it.
Otherwise we'd need to get Harbaugh's permission, which is doable but he won't pay attention to the requests until july at the earliest.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||He is, and he made it clear||
He is, and he made it clear that he wouldn't leave Michigan without either his degree or the doorframe.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||That makes no sense. A 5th||
That makes no sense. A 5th year is an option. If you burn the redshirt and get no value out of the player his freshman year you've cashed in your option for nothing.
Maybe this will convince you:
I've got 258 Michigan scholarship recruits in my database who redshirted as true freshmen and whose eligibility would not go past 2016*. Here's a summary of what happened with them:
Over half of the guys we redshirted were valuable enough to extend 5th years. That means it's a valuable option. A new coach will want to manage the roster to get more of his guys in and that might inform some decisions on 5th years, but for the most part your 5th year seniors are valuable contributors you're very glad to have on the team. All you do by burning the redshirt is take away an option you're 57% likely to want to exercise.
*meaning I cut out non-redshirts, walk-ons, transfers, later injury redshirts, and any player on the team now who's not a 5th year senior.
|9 weeks 9 hours ago||Kinnel saw real snaps last||
Kinnel saw real snaps last year, and that was when it looked like Thomas was pretty iffy and Hill was hurt. He also arrived a pretty technically sound guy. No complaints about that redshirt, just as we're not complaining about burning Jarrod Wilson's, even though he'd be valuable to this year's team if he still had eligibility.
Thomas and Hill at the time though were not any of these things:
Dymonte blocked one punt against WMU but also got booted from special teams, and I saw why.
The above doesn't even include that Harbaugh got a redshirt on Morris last year (Hoke did the same for Terry Richardson). Here's the list of players Hoke played as true freshmen. Let me know which, if any, you would have redshirted, I'll do the same, and then we can compare.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||I was playing around with FEI||
I was playing around with FEI instead of S&P+ so I included BC. Not hard to find them on the other chart though.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Scott Frost runs a modern||
Scott Frost runs a modern spread. Last year they were running more of a spread-to-pass out of a gun that worked when they had Bortles.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Too hard to separate that||
Too hard to separate that from quarterback runs and options. Teams that scramble more are most likely had quarterbacks who can run anyway. And once a Qb crosses the LOS run things are happening, such as blocking and breaking tackles, which would inform rushing stats. So there's no little to count QB scrambles. Sacks on the other hand are failed passes with negative yardage that affect passing team stats to the point that it distorts the results beyond usefulness.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||My wife is still in the||
My wife is still in the running. She asked who won and fell asleep again before I answered, and since I haven't mentioned it since and she lives in an otherwise football-free environment I bet she has no idea who won.
Ask her if Peyton Manning or Tom Brady won the Superbowl this year and I guarantee she'll say Brady.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||If you're logged into the||
If you're logged into the same Google account on your work computer it will know what you search for at home.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||You're getting that ad served||
There should be a little triangle in the upper-right of the ad which you can use to not see that ad anymore.
You're getting that ad served through Google, so no I'm not selling it directly. Those ads pop up based on things like your search history and your interests, So if you're getting anything that seems kinda weird for MGoBlog to sell, it's probably because Google is trying to match whatever you have been obsessing over.
(Or in the case of mail-order Russian brides that advertiser might be telling Google to hit up profoundly male audiences making over six figures household income who like sports.)
FWIW I get a lot of Michigan sports ticket offers, car ads, things from rival schools that I'm always looking up for work research (e.g. Michigan State hockey tickets), and various cable cutter gadgets/amazon/netflix etc. stuff.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||J'ai mis de la merde dans ta||
J'ai mis de la merde dans ta main.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||I never took a spring break||
I never took a spring break trip. I'd use it to pick up hours at the place I worked in high school and work on my writing because I wanted to be very good at thing that only a very few people get to do for a living.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||OT: GoFundMe help needed||
Please check w me before asking the readers for donations.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Thanks for finally giving me||
Thanks for finally giving me good reason to banish that fucking kid.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||BK0112 and all future iterations caved.||
^Account of UMDieHards, i.e. Bobby Kuntz, an attention whore who exists only to annoy the fuck out of anyone who produces legit Michigan content. His latest schtick was pretending to donate to a gofundme then arguing with all the users who caught him out in the obvious b.s. If he pops up again--I am certain he will--ban him again.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||(No subject)||https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1Zp0ugnJIGdMU02VlhORVIybWM/view?usp=do...|
|10 weeks 1 day ago||Sam Webb and Steve Lorenz.||
Sam Webb and Steve Lorenz. Sam has the best sources and Steve has the best bullshit meter.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||There's always a crack||
The thing about Butts: nobody got it.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||I read it as a Cover 1 not||
I read it as a Cover 1 not man 2. Watch the CB to the field side. He cuts inside as soon as he sees Butt break his route in. Now watch the SS: he comes down to cover the seam, then takes Williams out. Meanwhile the WLB is sitting in a robber zone and won't abandon his running lane to chase Butt.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||Thank you. You can download||
Thank you. You can download the song (and others) here:
These are my best friends; I lived with them and ran their merch table and went to all the shows planning to write a book about them one day. I also helped write lyrics (the song American History XXX, about various historical witch-hunts, has a lot of my lines in it.
Warships--the track I used on the video--was the best song live. My favorites are Ophelia (which is swimming with Shakespearan allusions as it tells the story of an old lady committing suicide), and Homeric Epic Exit Number Six, and not just because I played on it.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||hmm. Maybe we should do this||
hmm. Maybe we should do this as this week's obsession.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||I ordered brian and ace||
I ordered brian and ace potato shirts and a copy of The Hunt for Red October for Ace while we were recording. I also learned that yelling in the studio while they're recording still doesn't get my voice on the podcast. You just hear a blank spot (that I truncated) and then brian's like "we're ordering them now!"
Also the songs weren't in the post and Podcast posts aren't editable on the client side. They are:
|10 weeks 3 days ago||Way OT: New SI Swimsuit Model Ashley Graham||
My thought is I don't see how the board can get enriched by this, but I can see a lot of ways that this thread can go bad.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Selective Requests||
First reply was: "This should be a comment not a thread."
I can't improve on that.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||He's going to Ohio State.||
He's going to Ohio State. Todd Howard coached him in high school but Michigan never looked. We probably had the best shot if we did.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||I can't feckin wait.||
I can't feckin wait.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Fuck this game.||
Fuck this game.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||I think I'll go see how the||
I think I'll go see how the mod thread is going
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Just got an email from a guy||
Just got an email from a guy who said it's so bad it'll end up on a TED talk for bad charts.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Well||
It's a really small sample size, and the contributors are three sleeper OL and a free safety who'd be redshirting if he was ever even recruited on literally any other Michigan secondary of our lifetimes.
Only Omameh among them had an NFL career. And he was a late bloomer whom Rodriguez plucked to run his system. I don't think we ever were happy with Riley, and Huyge was unkillable but never excellent.
What about the 4.4s? Small sample sizes again but there are plenty of disappointments in there. Also plenty of guys who haven't played the back ends of their careers. For example Kugler's a 0/26 to the starts/possible total, but then that's his RS freshman and sophomore years and he could earn a starting job for the next two. On the other hand: Pipkins, Justin Turner, Doug Dutch, Brett Gallimore, James McKinney... It might be bad luck, or it might be guys who were 5-stars due to early development who then slipped to some sites at the end when the senior film didn't look any better than the sophomore film.
As for the little dip at 3.4 I found the error: there are no starts listed for special teams players, and a lot of our scholarship kickers and punters were 3.4s.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||Hawaiian names: Harry||
Harry (Ace): Hale
|12 weeks 8 hours ago||They're in the middle of||
They're in the middle of upgrading. Their problems are:
|12 weeks 12 hours ago||/giphy gampling in this||
/giphy gampling in this establishment
|12 weeks 13 hours ago||Nate Johnson is a slot the||
Nate Johnson is a slot the way Jeremy Gallon is a slot. He's not tall, but he can be very effective outside too. Height is just more of an issue there.
Keep in mind that Harbaugh's "slot" isn't Rich Rod's. Harbaugh loves twins formations with the TEs to the sideline and 2WR to the field. The inside guy is technically in the slot but he is set up to threaten the whole field.
|12 weeks 13 hours ago||Still open.||
|12 weeks 1 day ago||Would you even want ND back on the schedule? [YES YES YES YES YE||
I may have added that last bit to the title before canning the thread.
By the way the thread below it had a discussion already forming about ND. Make your case there.
|12 weeks 1 day ago||Not to hijack your thread but||
Not to hijack your thread but the answer is yes we want ND back on the schedule.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||Wood type? Thickness?||
Wood type? Thickness? Underlay?
|12 weeks 2 days ago||Stay on the front page all||
Stay on the front page all day today and you will get news and analysis live. We are planning to get thwomped by traffic so Matt sprung for some additiona internet power and we are gonna make Twitter do most of the heavy lifting. If you want to say something in the saying things box, Twitter Brian.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||I decreed they're safeties||
I decreed they're safeties based on SOURCES, which may be ON SLACK CHAT and sometimes KNOW THINGS because THEY TALK TO SOURCES and since they make plenty of sense and haven't been kept SECRET I figured it'd be best to list guys where they are expected to play at Michigan when we talk about them on the radio and stuff. Their position rankings aren't included in the star ratings. If the sites want to continue listing those guys at a position they probably weren't recruited for, that's their perogative.
Brian's mentioned Dytarious Johnson hasn't taken any officials, which is a likely sign that he's not qualifying. Hawkins I think it's been up in the air whether he gets into Michigan and less up in the air whether he meets the NCAA's criteria, whatever that means. If they don't qualify they may go to prep for a year and come in as 2017s--Michigan's going to be replacing a ton of seniors not to mention another year of attrition so there will be plenty of spots next year. Also one guy above (still a mystery publicly) committed as a grayshirt-unless-there's-a-spot like Jeremy Clark-style.
Ahmir Mitchell is already enrolled at Michigan.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||I know. There's a problem||
I know. There's a problem with my ESPN grading. He's an "80" but past the top 250, which probably ought to make him a 3.75 (akin to a 5.8 on Rivals if you're used to that system).
|12 weeks 2 days ago||I'm still perfecting my||
I'm still perfecting my standardizing formula but 5.7 to Rivals = high 3-star = 3.50. That's one rating that most of the sites seem to be pretty solid on.
Since the sites keep Fullbacks generally low in stars I didn't think it that big a deal to parse between which ones rank the #2 fullback an average 3-star or a high one. Scout treating him as an RB seemed like a bigger outlier.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||DFW really wanted you to feel||
DFW really wanted you to feel like you were reading a book, and put a lot of it into end notes. That might make the kindle experience a bit different, I don't know.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Thanks! Let's see how long||
Thanks! Let's see how long THIS tab stays open in my browser!
|12 weeks 6 days ago||I have my own pet conspiracy||
I have my own pet conspiracy theory on Richardson. At one point wasn't he being discussed as an early enrollee? After that he didn't enroll early, then Durkin left, then later Richardson decommitted and went to Maryland. So I kinda wonder if Durkin had anything to do with him not enrolling early.
Swenson and Weaver are in the same boat, except Weaver they left open the possibility of a scholarship being available whereas with Swenson they were pretty clear in october and very clear when he tried to come on an official.
Enis I think was more the Dytarious Johnson story, hence not making a fuss.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Third-hand (I know not much||
Third-hand (I know not much to go on) the coaches have been keeping a hard count since September that's gone up by 1 with each incident. I think they have an idea of some guys who will finish their degrees in May then grad transfer to places they can play.
If I had the ability to play football at a high enough level to earn a Michigan scholarship, and had put in the incredible commitment in time and physical effort it takes to get even this far, and it wasn't going to get me on the field at Michigan, damn man, I'd want to go somewhere and play football. I'd also want to get that Michigan degree first, and I imagine a few guys who won't be here in fall are going to walk to May then take the grad transfer route.
Off that note: I really hope grad transfers don't ever get closed. Players having mobility and options to get on the field if they don't pan out is a good thing so long as it doesn't decimate programs. A degree is a sufficiently difficult/attainable and eminently worthwhile barrier of entry. Helps programs shed weight without resorting to Sabany skeeziness, helps keep football-first kids focused on something that will help them when they realize there's 40-60 years of life after football, helps other programs plug last-minute holes, and we wind up with even more educated kids at the expense of "non-profits" who'd otherwise spend it on building projects to make a Roman Emperor blush. Losers: Big Ten teams who have to face Jake Rudock when they might otherwise have gotten Shane Morris.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||I really should add that this||
I really should add that this doesn't come from talking to him. Just those guys on facebook having reactions.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Regarding comments: "The||
"The trouble with kids these days..."
Is currently our most likely translation of the first three pictographs in the oldest cave paintings yet discovered.
Later in this cave are drawings of animals that signify the end of the world is coming soon and the cavemen should all prepare.
Via friends who played with him he's getting screwed. They called in the football coach to deal with the kid because the kid seemed too dangerous for literally any other staffer to handle.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Edited OP and tile. Also||
Edited OP and tile.
Also isn't OT. Well okay he was an OT sometimes and an OG sometimes but it's not OT! Damn it's hard having a football board.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||I didn't have Arrington||
I didn't have Arrington higher than those guys did I? I'll check in a second so my reply isn't colored by it.
Streets is a very good example of production versus ability. When they're assessing stars it's the latter, so I tried to be fair to the services by grading them on that and not just "this dude put up STATS!"
I will go to my deathbed singing the praises of Streets as perhaps the most underrated Michigan star of my lifetime.
For most of his career Streets had his stats nerfed by a Fred Jackson-coached, passing-averse mess led alternately by Dreisbach and Griese. As much as we complained about Borges under Hoke, DeBord in his his first stretch at Michigan was wose, neither holds a candle to the insane decisions being made on offense immediately after Moeller left. Fred Sr. will admit he wasn't ready for the job. They routinely misjudged their talent, famously let position battles drag deep into the season, telegraphed their plays, and never did anything more clever than a waggle after at least five runs to set it up. Anyone who played in those offenses should be judged against the clowns running the show. Braylon in contrast did most of his work in the comparatively competetent Terry Malone era.
Streets still put up great numbers for his day, but he did so much more. Watch him at the bottom of the screen on this TD pass to C-Will (at 2:11):
The last bit to separate them is their respective pro careeers. Streets had a long and successful NFL career despite toppling down the draft with an injury.
Streets was also an all around amazing athlete. He was the fastest guy at the draft combine (before the injury) and played basketball for Michigan too. I will go look at the scores I gave them again now but that's my thinking: the Original 86 at least=1.
|13 weeks 2 hours ago||It's bullshit is what it is.||
It's bullshit is what it is. Florida is ranked #1 because they won the last two championships, but this team doesn't have Lauren Haegar and replaces another six contributors besides.
Michigan was right up with the Gators last year in dominating the rest of the softball world, with their own generational player. And everyone returns except a pitcher they replace with one just as good coming off a medical redshirt, plus the catcher and her backup.
Yes I am mad about a preseason softball poll on the internet.
|13 weeks 3 hours ago||So this afternoon I got a||
So this afternoon I got a text from a number that probably used to be in my phone thanking me for not telling her story on here. And I realized I did have a worse one.
Let's never do this again.
|13 weeks 3 hours ago||Well maybe I don't use my||
Well maybe I don't use my MGoPoints as haphazardly as you do.
|13 weeks 13 hours ago||Yeah. I couldn't end it badly||
Yeah. I couldn't end it badly since brother was already obviously headed toward engagement with her best friend. At the very least we were gonna be in the same bridal party. On reflection I should have called her a cab.
When my sister in law tells the story it's about why she and my brother both had to drive separately to pick us up a week later.
|13 weeks 13 hours ago||He made a person. Okay he||
He made a person.
Okay he stood by and didn't lose his shit while the MGoWife made a person.
|13 weeks 13 hours ago||damn.||
Here's 28,000 mgopoints. They will never expire.
|13 weeks 13 hours ago||Constanti-NOPE-le||
|13 weeks 13 hours ago||I work them in when I can.||
I work them in when I can.
|13 weeks 19 hours ago||Well yeah there was a strike||
Well yeah there was a strike one and two. I think Rivals was putting it out there that he was off the team after 2 even after Cole had been working his way back.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||If the incident that got him||
If the incident that got him in trouble happened after the bowl like the scout report says, that would make 247 right. He was practicing for bowls because there were quotes about him looking good at safety so I think the dire Rivals reports weren't correct until something happened more recently.
It's like do you give the Texas247 guy credit now for arguing with Elliott weeks ago about whether UT was in it? If I called Jim Harbaugh the next president of the United States with 90% certainty right now and then that actually occurs that doesn't make me a good political analyst.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||Several reasons why that||
Several reasons why that is:
|13 weeks 1 day ago||Class of 1998 REPRESENT!||
Class of 1998 REPRESENT!
|13 weeks 1 day ago||Rasheed Simmons: Crap you||
Rasheed Simmons: Crap you caught a typo. I had him as a 3.75. He transferred to Maryland after taking a year to get over personal issues, and bounced around NFL practice squads after. 3.75.
"Most Underrated": was simply the reassessed stars minus the composite star rating. I bet it's universal that underrated players become fan favorites, and I submit for evidence that it's those same underrated guys I like on the Red Wings and Tigers when they do well. We love a rags to riches story (and don't realize the greatest players are usually the ones who worked the hardest to get there--talent only gets you so far).
Here's that full list including guys from before the modern services were available (and kickers). Really there's a lot of our beloved guys on that list. There's also a lot of kickers and fullbacks, because for some reason the sites never want to assess those positions like the rest of them.
Kickers and punters and fullbacks almost never get rated over a middling 3-star, I guess because they're oft replaceable from your student body. The rest above were mostly really skinny dudes who beefed up. JMRF, Braylon, Chesson, Molk, Knight and Rumishek were too small to play as freshmen (Braylon was too good to leave off the field anyway) but grew into those bodies. That's a common story among breakout college stars who weren't highly rated coming out of high school, but guessing which guys will be able to get bigger without losing any twitch is a crapshoot.
Why isn't Hart on that list? For one people are arguing with me that he should be higher than 4.25 so maybe he does belong there. For two, it's because he was actually a high 3-star. The point of going to quarter-stars with the ratings is that when Rivals calls a guy a "5.7" they're saying he's closer to a "5.8" than a "5.5". However a "5.8" is a 4-star and a 5.7 is a 3-star. Hart was a high three-star who almost but didn't quite crack the 4-star range, and therefore he was forever able to play with that "3-star" tag around his neck. He was also ranked as an "APB" which is a distinction I never understood since they never manage to actually capture scatbacks and slot receviers, which hid the fact that despite the difference in apparent stars, Hart and classmate Max Martin were ranked very close to each other.
Hart was overlooked, by the way. Despite crushing NY State records in the Buffalo/Syracuse area he didn't get a lot of looks. State might have gotten him if not for a serendipidously timed phone call by Carr...
Sometimes all you needed was to look closely at the film to see a player should be ranked higher than he is. Sometimes the services just miss on those guys, especially when there aren't a lot of schools involved in his commitment. With Hart, and with Khaleke Hudson, the film didn't show a "3-star" level kid. But that film got in the hands of the services long after his decision was no longer going to be interesting, and they had each rated as a mild 3-star, so both got a bump to "near 4 star" status. At least my numbers adjust for that.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||Google spreadsheet! You||
You "publish to the web" and get the embed code. I manually added width="560" height="315"
|13 weeks 1 day ago||Sorted by how I ranked them,||
Sorted by how I ranked them, then by class, then by what their coposite stars were when they were recruited.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||It's a running meme on the||
It's a running meme on the site that people don't read the author's name.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||I laid out the reasons.||
I laid out the reasons. Denard could run around WMU his freshman year but also couldn't beat Iowa or supplant Tate as a starter in 2009. It wasn't until UConn in 2010 that we saw how ruthlessly efficient he could be in an offense designed around him.
I also took that last bit into account. Henson you could run just about any offense and his skills translated to them. Denard--and you can blame the coaches and the AD for this way more than him--was vastly more effective in a QB outside zone/veer based offense than any other. He was never a very good zone reader, and he was even less effective when they tried to make him into Tom Brady. That took Borges far out of his comfort zone and led to all sorts of offensive problems.
Denard at 4.75 is something I'm very comfortable with. It doesn't make me love him any less.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM||
|13 weeks 3 days ago||We're getting into philosophy||
We're getting into philosophy now: blind faith is not evil in itself, but it invites evil by making someone else the judge of your moral compass. Amoral, not immoral.
Mostly I just wanted to point out that using PSU is distracting. There are better examples that don't ignite an immediate "whoa whoa whoa that's not the same!" reaction.
|13 weeks 3 days ago||Get what you're saying but no||
Get what you're saying but no need to bring the PSU thing into it even as an example. The worst moral quandary you can get dragged into by following Harbaugh is supporting the "I'm just not going to call for a few months and she'll get the hint" method of breaking up. Not the classiest thing, but also not ruining lives. The 409'ers are literally arguing that Paterno should not have told any more people than he had to legally while lives were getting ruined on his campus by his former coach who was using his facilities.
It's the college football equivalent of Godwinning.
What you mean to say is that blindly following Harbaugh and not calling him out for even less-than-Saban tactics is a lot like the Bama or Tennessee fans who blindly accept oversigning, and that Michigan can and should be above it. The value today of an honest reputation in recruiting is higher than any value you might get from stringing along a kid on the off chance you'll want him later.
|13 weeks 3 days ago||1. Is a great idea. 2. Would||
1. Is a great idea.
2. Would make us a lot of money.
3. Brought up something like this before.
4. Never gonna happen, unless you want, like, me and Matt Demorest.
|13 weeks 3 days ago||I think he left in the middle||
I think he left in the middle of his MSU official and visited his brother on the way home. But it's 'crutin so I guess this is news.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Look at the extremes in||
Look at the extremes in comparison to the years around them. The highest years in returning starts were:
The lowest were:
In general the years with more returning starters were better but there are outliers. 2014 and 2010 had relatively good experience but also had coaches about to be fired and teams significantly underperforming as a result.
2001 was a good year on its own but in context of its era it was a down year because of how talented the roster was. Two years to either side Michigan was one of the best teams in the country. 2004 was also low on XP but that team had astounding play from its freshmen, including Mike Hart, Chad Henne, and Jake Long. 2005 had good experience returning but there were so many injuries that much of it didn't get on the field. Ditto 2007.
Experience is like talent: it helps a LOT but it doesn't guarantee.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||You're using fake numbers||
You're using fake numbers generated for press releases to draw an incorrect conclusion.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||For the most part these are||
For the most part these are kids who were told in October or November that they should look at other schools since they're probably not going to get PT at Michigan. In one of those cases the kid obviously didn't get the message, but all of those guys remained "committed" in name only while looking around, because being a Michigan commit makes you more likely to be taken seriously by other schools.
Also there's the academic thing. Michigan's going to lose at least one guy who won't qualify academically. That happened after he committed to Michigan, and since you have to meet academic standards just to take officials he isn't even able to do that. So he's leaving his status as committed to Michigan because it's embarassing to have the whole country know you had shitty grades.
On the other hand sometimes a kid just decides he wants to go somewhere else. Commitments are not formal, and they mean something different to each kid and each program. Other programs can and absolutely do continue recruiting "committed" prospects. Apparently someone got in Richardson's ear that David Long and LaVert Hill were going to make Antwaine the Channing Stribling of that rotation, and he opened up his recruitment. Happens. The coaches really liked him, but he's been committed for a long time and maybe things changed for him.
He's the ONLY guy they've lost this year that they wanted. Michigan has the opposite of a decommit problem; they have so many great players who may want to come here that they can't keep their fliers.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||It's a problem but not the||
It's a problem but not the worst problem. If you limit to 22 unreplaceable scholarships per year, period, at maxium you have 110 scholarships in football and most likely something like 90 and almost never over 100. So you're adding 15 more women's scholarships. Not the worst thing ever.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Not nice to guess out loud.||
Not nice to guess out loud. The coaches already know about some guys who were passed by younger players and asked for a release, but it's up to the players, not the school, to inform the public whenever they're ready to. Green told them he'd be gone months ago, and he made it public what, last week? There's others that have already trickled into the paywalled boards. The coaches started saying "29" spots to people a few weeks ago and then that grew by one right when the premium boards were breaking a behavioral loss that hasn't been publicly announced. So I think the coaches have an exact count.
Also you can always expect attrition after spring and in fall, when the roster shakes out and inklings of PT issues become certainties. It's also kind of fluid, for example Ryan Glasgow and Kenny Allen will earn scholarships next year so I counted them, but they are treated as if they're still walk-ons when they're making the count for the Big Ten on signing day. Michigan will lose some guys between then and fall, and there will be schollies available for Glasgow and Allen and probably a few more besides at that point.
I keep this updated:
If you'd like to make a copy of it and remove anyone you think won't be back for 2017 be my guest. It'll automatically set the count.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||11Warriors is a good blog.||
11Warriors is a good blog. It's just whoever runs their twitter who's awful.
|14 weeks 5 hours ago||RAISE!!!!!!||
|14 weeks 1 day ago||If anyone cares it turned out||
If anyone cares it turned out to be a problem with an Adobe update that conflicted with Microsoft's static files. I did some registry finagling to simulate a fresh Office install and it worked.
|14 weeks 1 day ago||Class size also correlates||
Class size also correlates with things like producing starters and NFL players and such because moar dudes is good and Michigan has only ever used all of its schollies once in this period (2002). USC once had a small class of almost all 4-stars but it's rare that any team will have more blue chips they can get to commit than spots available.
These are individuals and time to recruit them is limited so I give credit for finding 29 of them cumulatively.
|14 weeks 1 day ago||I'm listening (while I alter||
I'm listening (while I alter registry files because the latest hypothesis is Adobe got in somewhere.)
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Barring unexpected attrition||
>only thing that's changed since then is Henry.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||2016 Seniors: 23 RB:||
2016 Seniors: 23
RB: De'Veon Smith. Drake Johnson
WR: Jehu Chesson, Amara Darboh, Da'Mario Jones
TE: Jake Butt
OL: Kyle Kalis, Ben Braden, Blake Bars, Erik Magnuson
DT: Ryan Glasgow
DE: Matthew Godin, Chris Wormley, Taco Charlton, Tom Strobel
LB: Allen Gant, Ben Gedeon
S: Delano Hill, Dymonte Thomas
CB: Jourdan Lewis, Jeremy Clark, Channing Stribling
ST: Kenny Allen
Some of the above won't be back in 2016 but none are expected to have eligibility for 2017, barring an injury to one of the true seniors. That is a HUGE graduating class.
There are also quite a few guys who will be redshirt juniors this year and haven't been starting yet. That is hardly a death-knell on their careers, since they still haven't even played the spring practice of the 2nd half of their eligibility. Just putting them here because 9 is rather a lot considering the above.
QB: Shane Morris
RB: Ty Isaac
FB/TE: Wyatt Shallman
WR: Jaron Dukes
OL: Patrick Kugler, David Dawson
LB: Mike McCray
CB: Freddy Canteen, Reon Dawson
Again, don't count these guys out. Kugler is battling to replace Glasgow this year, and if McCray is healthy he could well be your MLB starter the next two years. Shallman's been injured too much thus far to show much but he's a very Harbaugh guy and if he's healthy you know he'd be valuable to this offense.
On the other hand you can see why Harbaugh is keen on stuffing as many dudes into this class as he can, because there's gonna be ~30 open spots next year naturally.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||I'm doing the final||
I'm doing the final data-scrubbing on own version of a consensus ranking for Michigan players dating back to 2002 (when available). It converts all the inconsistent ranking systems into a 5-star system with decimals. So for example a 5.8 on Rivals is a 4-star but a 5.8 ranked in the top 250 is a 4.25-star and a 5.9 is a 4.5-star and a 6.0 is a 4.75-star.
If we're defining a "sleeper" pick as someone under a 3.5 or lower on that scale then one more bump for Hudson knocks him out of the running:
Dwumfour and Nordin italicized since they're not commits but appear to have a good chance of ending up in the class. Also Brian's been dropping hints in the crutin roundups that not all of these guys will even sign with M (like one guy's ball'd to Temple, another's not taking visits because he won't qualify).
Man who do you take there? Kingston Davis I guess?
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Also guilty. Everyone just||
Also guilty. Everyone just shut up--I was transported. I was transported I tell ya!
|14 weeks 4 days ago||If you're talking about a WDE||
If you're talking about a WDE with a video game character's first name I may know which coach you're talking about.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||There have been so many worse||
There have been so many worse trophies foisted upon mankind than this.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||John Herrington has won 13||
John Herrington has won 13 state championships. He's been coaching there since the school opened in 1970, is in the Michigan Coaching Hall of Fame for both football and baseball, and didn't lose a game either my senior year or my brother's senior year after me. He's sent a dozen players to Power 5 schools and several to the NFL, most recently Devin Funchess. This year when they discussed closing one of the high schools in the district because of major budget problems the first thing on everyone's minds was "oh god would that make Herrington retire?"
He makes $21,000 for coaching the football team (it's in the public budget.) He used to get way way less but half a century of loyalty at one of the state's premier programs that you literally built yourself comes with benefits. Like Coach Herrington doesn't pay for beer if any of the thousands of his alumni are at the bar. It's a good life.
If you get a chance to join D-I staff when you're going, you do so. Like Partridge, the chances of moving up to an assistant role are far greater when you're already in the room. Coordinators come from assistant ranks and head coaches come from the successful coordinators, and if you tie your flag to one of the great coaches the likelihood of those openings (as others move up and out) and having the kind of success to attract better jobs is greater.
Coaches I know in town--those in their 30s, and yes they're coaching DI talent--would leap at a chance to take Partridge's position on a MAC team. Typically you would want to get to know an up-and-comer and move up through the ranks was he does. But a guy like Harbaugh who's already at the peak of the profession skips that step. If you're recruiting coordinator at Michigan you're a step away from linebackers coach. If you're linebackers coach you're a step away from a coordinator job at a good mid-major or a middling Power 5. Squeeze out a top-X performance there and you're on your way to $1 million.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||Steps: 1. Do something for||
1. Do something for the blog on a consistent basis that Brian finds of monetary value.
2. Fill out a W2.
3. Years later be watching TV with Ace and be like "what is that sound that keeps coming from your laptop?"
|14 weeks 6 days ago||Yes he can play WDE. His||
Yes he can play WDE. His future is on the interior sure but he's got the moves and the rush and the responsibility for WDE, especially in Michigan's/Brown's system that almost never zone blitzes. In a nickel over he's rushing the passer, stunting, setting the edge against LTs, and getting optioned a lot.
If you watched the National Championship game Clemson has an excellent WDE who's bigger than Gary and built like him who made a spectacular play where he was optioned, squeezed in juuuust enough to make the quarterback think he has to keep it or else his RB will be swallowed at the line, then read the keep and exploded for a TFL. Coker isn't exactly Tebow but it's a rare QB who could have gotten out of that one when he's getting hit half a second after standing in the handoff position.
That's the kind of play Gary could bring to that position. Someone with the scary athleticism in that size of a body can't be shoved or kicked (like Roh was as a freshman) but has the agility to make crazy-ass plays that negate the mathematical advantage of the spread and cause havoc on passing offenses.
"Will" is WLB, i.e. the position Bolden played this year. We're not talking about will.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||They've got a walk-on they||
They've got a walk-on they like who can do Kerridge things: Bobby Henderson. I don't know if he'll come back for a 5th year but he won a scholarship once under Hoke.
Other than him I think there's legs to the idea of De'Veon Smith playing some fullback in the Houma mold. He's already a very good blocker and get him on a dive play into the 2nd level and you're gonna have a good time. Only thing holding that back is he's also the best running back on the roster, and he'll get banged up as the season goes. But I predict an Askew-like role for him next year where he's a fullback sometimes and a running back sometimes and nursing boo boos all the times.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||Semi-critical? Dude if you||
Dude if you can't tell why that headline was awful...
|14 weeks 6 days ago||Original thread title was,||
Original thread title was, paraphrasing, "Let's admit Hackett got woodshedded" or something near it. I ain't no mod; i'm the guy who makes his living by selling the advertising around here, and that thread title sitting on our site like that caused me a world of problems.
Honestly if I he hadn't corrected me (on a thing I was self-correcting already but that doesn't discredit it) I would have dropped the hammer.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||Pick a MAC offensive line you||
Pick a MAC offensive line you like, spend a year learning what a hole looks like, and some NFL team will draft him. Nobody seems to know how to scout vision and the shifty small things great RBs do to make sure nobody can get good contact on them. They do see huge dudes built low with a lot of meat and "angry" shoulders. So long as coaches overrate such things--and boy do they ever, on all levels--he should find a home.
|15 weeks 7 hours ago||Yeah, edited it before I saw||
Yeah, edited it before I saw your response.
Anyway you may wanna scale back your take since I nearly banned you for the headline.
|15 weeks 7 hours ago||Header changed||
I changed the header because the OP didn't know that shorter contracts are better for the schools and royalties and whatnot are going to push Michigan way over.
Michigan gets a preposterous 15% royalties, worth probably $2-$4 million/year.
|15 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah he wishes he was||
Yeah he wishes he was Seth.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||Freshman All-American isn't||
Freshman All-American isn't an All-American. Hargreaves was in because he's a top 10 draft pick. He's the lowest "shield" I've consented to thus far.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||With Gary this would||
With Gary this would presumably be the two-deep:
WDE: Charlton, Gary
All of these guys would play. DL gets so much rotation that the 2nd guy can play like 40% of snaps. Gary could conceivably take snaps away from Godin and be a 50/50 with Taco, thus predicting starter-level snaps for him is actually quite reasonable. Things like cutting off a zone read take time to learn, though.
|16 weeks 1 day ago||They did roll a safety down||
They did roll a safety down behind the MLB on the snap.
|16 weeks 1 day ago||Graphite actually.||
|16 weeks 1 day ago||They didn't terminate the||
They didn't terminate the contract; the contract was going to be up and they notified Flint that it was going to be up and then Flint was like "Nah, we're leaving." It would be the equivalent of a landlord sending you a notice in the mail that your lease is up in 60 days and that you need to give 30-days notice if you're leaving, and then you call them and say you are leaving. Then you decide to build a beautiful new house and live in a rental property in the interim, but you didn't bother to put windows on the rental property then ignored your family's complaints for 18 months that they were really cold.
When Flint tried to come back Detroit was like "You SOLD the pipeline! We can buy that back perhaps or build a new one but that's costly!" And with Flint over a barrell they jacked up the price. Not, like, ridiculously, but high. Capitalism's a bitch.
In fact it's $12 million. Flint is going to cover $2 million of that and the rest is being donated by the Mott Foundation. Which gets a ton of its conributions from Michigan fans, by the way, if you're wondering who's footing the bulk of the bill to get good water flowing again.
Detroit's water also wins the taste test at WEFTEC every year (or did when I was covering it). If anyone's charging the most in the country for water, it should be them.
|16 weeks 1 day ago||It's not a zone play it's a||
It's not a zone play it's a counter off outside zone. Backside ISO with zone stretch action? Labeling isn't my department. I was trying to convey that the counter here is that he shows the DL stretch action from the line, even though M doesn't run stretches much, which gets DL to start fighting to what will be the wrong side of their blocks.
Rudock makes a frontside pivot to help--if the WLB is supposed to be watching for an FB dive as I imagine he would, that should convince him to take a step to the frontside and maybe pull his eyes off Houma and stick a toe in the direction of that frontside B gap.
The sell of the zone stretch only has to last for that one second. Then the OL cut off their slides, let the DL win their race to the frontside gaps, and seal at the same moment the RB starts coming down the backside with two blockers.
|16 weeks 1 day ago||I'm sure we've both talked||
I'm sure we've both talked about it. Brian had an article in HTTV on this stuff, and that was adapted from his road spiel that he uses when he has to speak at events. I've hit on it a number of times in neck sharpies.
|16 weeks 1 day ago||That was just a demo (hence||
That was just a demo (hence the click track) that never got finished.
But I put a link to the band in the description. I recommend Homer and Ophelia.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Cleanup on Flint Thread||
One 6-year member Boliviated for going extreme political. Points back after the next presidential election--would nuke permanently if not for long history of not stepping over the line and some good contributions in the past.
Keep an eye on this one; lock if it gets out of hand.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Noooooope!||
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Shortest version I can muster||
Shortest version I can muster and this may be out of order; I used to be the publisher of an environmental trade magazine so I've been hearing about this a lot from old contacts.
Keep in mind that perspective is from environmental consultants and engineers, who are hardly apolitical.
|16 weeks 4 days ago||Take Henson with a grain of||
Take Henson with a grain of salt. He knows John Arbeznick, who gets things from Harbaugh sometimes, but I have never seen any evidence that Harbaugh talks to his friends about recruits.
|16 weeks 6 days ago||Some kids got a trip they'll||
Some kids got a trip they'll remember their whole lives. The football team went to the playoffs and they got to go. That is not a tragedy for anyone who didn't get to go. It's just an awesome thing for those who got to go.
I don't think we fans need to play lip service to the fiction that a volleyball player and a basketball player at Michigan State are there to do the same thing. And if Michigan, who will see plenty of big football games in the future, can do the same thing for our hoops players, we'll only benefit.
|16 weeks 6 days ago||really who gives a shit?||
really who gives a shit? State isn't a clean program anymore but this wasn't paying off some coach or blackmailing a parent to get recruits. If this is illegal it shouldn't be.
|17 weeks 11 hours ago||Yes, that's the basic rules||
Yes, that's the basic rules of football. 7 men on the line, 5 in the backfield. End guys on the LOS are eligible receivers plus the guys in the backfield.
|17 weeks 12 hours ago||He's eligible by alignment,||
He's eligible by alignment, but due to his number he's not.
In the NFL you can report to the referee that you're an eligible receiver even if you're wearing a number between 50-79 or 90-99.
In college football it's just numbers 50-79 that are ineligible and he must change his jersey if he wants to be an eligible receiver. That's why Magnuson wore 81 in 2014 when he lined up as an extra OT.
|17 weeks 13 hours ago||I noticed that too. What||
I noticed that too. What Michigan was doing is the weird thing--the whole point of an over front is to set the edges with an end who can rush.
I think Michigan's "over" was informed by under thinking, and that Michigan was trying to get back some of their size advantage by having ends in a 5 or 4i tech to help with inside runs, trusting they had dynamic edge players who could come up quickly if a bounce occurred. Peppers and Ross are both pretty good at that sort of thing.
Remember that what Michigan ran last year wasn't the defensive philosophy that its coaches came up with. They're much closer to speed-through-gaps type of thinking, but they had a surfeit of DE/DT tweeners on the line and tried to dominate battles they could have just focused on winning. The strategy worked great against those they could dominate on the regular--pushing the Mormons or Terps off the ball was simple--and blew up in their faces when they met OL as strong as their DL.
|17 weeks 15 hours ago||My wife is off work but of||
My wife is off work but of course my boss is all like "the bowl game is tomorrow" and "people are at work today--we can't let them actually WORK!" so here I am.
|17 weeks 2 days ago||Well when it comes to||
Well when it comes to recruiting Ace or Brian or Steve Lorenz or Sam Webb are E.F. Hutton.
But my dad worked for EF Hutton.
|17 weeks 3 days ago||Don't do the bleach. Then you||
Don't do the bleach. Then you won't be able to enjoy his Michigan career.
|17 weeks 3 days ago||meta: meta.||
|17 weeks 3 days ago||powerpoint. I've been||
powerpoint. I've been tweaking my template for several years to get it where it's pretty close to scale.
|17 weeks 6 days ago||So far that seems incorrect.||
So far that seems incorrect. But I have a lot more to watch.
|18 weeks 12 hours ago||Kelly's a spread to pass,||
Kelly's a spread to pass, really. He uses the read option sometimes but the base of his offense is West Coast passing from a spread. More Joe Tiller than Rich Rodriguez, or more to the point: Urban Meyer.
|18 weeks 2 days ago||Didn't I say that article has||
Didn't I say that article has issues? The point was BC's schedule didn't have many spread teams, and I gave it as something more concrete than "trust me I watch more football than is considered healthy."
|18 weeks 5 days ago||Are you from the union?||
Are you from the union?
|18 weeks 5 days ago||Hill's situation hasn't||
Hill's situation hasn't changed. If he physically can still play football it's likely he will do so at Michigan. But I find it more likely that he's done.
|18 weeks 6 days ago||Please just trust me he's||
Please just trust me he's done. Beilein would of course leave the door open, but Spike isn't walking through it.
|18 weeks 6 days ago||What would I have to get rid||
What would I have to get rid of then?
|18 weeks 6 days ago||I think alum hit it right.||
I think alum hit it right. I'm basing this on this whole triad thing seemed to start right after McDoom committed to Oregon. At that point it seemed the Ducks would take both McDoom and Crawford, so Michigan was moving on with their next target, Pie Young. For his part Pie seems like he's been a strong Michigan lean for awhile, but obviously both parties would reassess a commitment if Crawford's in the class.
So I bet with the old info Pie was set to commit this week, and with the new information he's still a "silent commitment" in that if Michigan doesn't get Crawford, Pie is coming to Michigan, and will announce it in January. Which is close enough that Amir Mitchell is convinced Pie is coming to Michigan.
|18 weeks 6 days ago||No insider info here--just||
No insider info here--just going off what was said on the crutin roundups--but I thought it was going to be Pie Young.
|18 weeks 6 days ago||Head footbal coach isn't a||
Head footbal coach isn't a professorship though.
He gets a fair share. Much more than 10%
|18 weeks 6 days ago||He's right. Michigan beat||
He's right. Michigan beat virtually the same Florida team the following year.
|19 weeks 7 hours ago||don't try it. It messes up||
don't try it. It messes up our whole system.
|19 weeks 7 hours ago||I think things drop off of||
I think things drop off of there automatically after a certain amount of time and brian hasn't posted a link for awhile
|19 weeks 16 hours ago||My feeling on that is a||
My feeling on that is a market should include all of this. People don't stop being people because money is involved, or shouldn't. Some people find it's a game to get the best possible deal. For a difference of $20 however a lot of people would rather just buy from some nice people, especially if the seats are good and you can sit with some other Michigan fans.
When I scalp I almost always find one cheaper after I bought. But I've also met some great people, and become closer to a lot of friends and family because I didn't make $ the only consideration.
Everyone should decide for themselves what's most important to them. I think we'd all appreciate it if people marked it up for Ohio State fans because it's horrible when they start spelling that one word they know. However I've been an away fan countless times, so I've got respect for those who come to our stadium. They're there because they love their team. I get that.
|19 weeks 4 days ago||he will. I'll get details.||
he will. I'll get details.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||yep. I've been chatting with||
yep. I've been chatting with the author all week as he's been in town. He goes way back with Jack Harbaugh.
Anyway I'm a quarter in. Review forthcoming.
|20 weeks 1 day ago||Seriously. alum can we throw||
alum can we throw you a t-shirt or something?
|20 weeks 1 day ago||I don't want advanced stats||
I don't want advanced stats determining rankings; that's a disservice to the game. Advanced stats are great because they're predictive. They'll tell you if Michigan plays the game we played against Michigan State with the 10th worst officiating in the game's history instead of the worst-worst the Wolverines win that one. But if you make that the determining factor in ranking, what's the point of being mad about that crap?
The point of football is to win, not to look like you would win. I want Alabama to be pissed that they were an Ole Miss luck-ball away from perfect. I want Indiana fans to be pissed they couldn't upset any of the Top 25 teams they took to the wire. I want players who got to almost to be furious with themselves for not finishing. Extra credit for Indiana taking Michigan to overtime this year would mean 2013 Michigan should kick the extra point against 2013 Ohio State instead of going for it. Screw that.
That's why I kept my rating system simple. It rewards Power 5 schools for being in tougher conferences and for scheduling each other (one of the stumbling blocks for increasing conference games is it necessarily decreases the number of bowl-eligible teams in the conference), and rewards upsets, and disincentivises teams from scheduling FCS schools at all. And you only get points for wins, so ultimately the main point of football is preserved in the rating system.
|20 weeks 2 days ago||Why in the world would you||
Why in the world would you want to keep the Mobile Bowl?
|20 weeks 3 days ago||It's really hard to get your||
It's really hard to get your gap when an OL has a free release on you. The best you can do is pop the guy and set up when the ball arrives. When that's Pat Elflein, one of the best guards in the country, the likelihood of success is small. Football's a team game.
That said you can play a style that's more about individuals doing their jobs so long as your guys can consistently win one on one matchups. The team thing to do if you're Henry is delay the guard's release and flow down the line until a clean Morgan makes the play. The other thing Henry can do is let the guard go, destroy the attempted block by the tackle, and blow up the play in the backfield. He tried to do the latter and failed, thus making Morgan's job too hard to expect Morgan to do every time.
|20 weeks 3 days ago||greater vigilance for this in||
greater vigilance for this in the future. Moderating all comments is really too hard; for the most part things like that will get negged a ton and if the thread is devolving we lock the thread. If there's a particularly bad offender, note them and the mods will look into it.