landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
|4 days 19 hours ago||Where does Briles end up?||
Or more accurately, which downtrodden SEC team will fire their current guy and hire Briles, under the "everyone needs second chances" flag, explaining his changed heart and deep regret, and giving him a huge raise? Ole Miss likely to have an opening soon, but my money is on South Carolina or Kentucky... Maybe Mizzou.
|1 week 3 days ago||Snapchat||
I am a 40-something curmudgeon, and finally gave in to Snapchat because my 14 year old daughter urged me to. It is actually one of the coolest all-around apps, is great for communicating with younger colleagues, and is not really creepy any more... Highly recommended.
|2 weeks 20 hours ago||I never really liked my avatar...||
|3 weeks 3 days ago||It's Draftageddon Time!||
|3 weeks 5 days ago||"Just the sacks"||
Apologies in advance...Can anyone help me understand the meaning of this T-shirt? (and yes, I get the Dragnet reference)
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Mike Leach||
Somehow I love this man and hate him at the same time.
Secondarily - You got a poet laureate for UM Commencement? I got a cartoonist, and not even a good one...Cathy Guisewite.
|16 weeks 5 days ago||I know as much about web hosting as I do about astrophysics...||
But I am in agreement, with the requisite qualifier "I love the site, but..."
It seems to me that this fine website being on such an unreliable infrastructure is like Al Borges putting Denard Robinson under center despite ovewhelming evidence to it's ineffectiveness.
And no, I don't even know if "unreliable infrastructure" is the correct syntax, but you get my point.
|18 weeks 4 days ago||There is only one Spinellis!||
If there were more than one, we'd have to call them Spinellises, which is just silly.
|18 weeks 5 days ago||Bo Idolized Yost||
Any questions on Bo's moral authority when it comes to running a football program?
|18 weeks 5 days ago||This is starting to resemble the Joe Bolden re-posts.||
This is starting to resemble the Joe Bolden re-posts.
This is starting to resemble the Joe Bolden re-posts.
This is starting to resemble the Joe Bolden re-posts.
|18 weeks 5 days ago||*scratches head*||
Seriously? That is your moral argument in favor of pulling a committed scholarship 3 weeks from NSD? Because my avatar was a racist?
|18 weeks 5 days ago||We all want to win.||
Most of us are not willing to sacrifice the integrity of the program to get there. On behalf of the rest of the fanbase, you might want to go look around for another football team to root for. We just don't think you will have much of a role here as a Michigan fan. Good riddance.
|18 weeks 5 days ago||Glass houses||
I was willing to play "wait and see" until I read the mLive article. In it Swenson says that the scholarship offer was pulled. This is in excusable, assuming it's true. We should have kept our committment to this (what appears to be) fine young man and accepted the fact that someone else on our list would not be in the fold. That's what the word "committment" means.
I seem to be in the minority when I say that I will NOT be pleased with a national champtionship if we have to lower our standards of integrity to get it, regardless of who our coach is. I will perfectly happy with 10-2 seasons every year if that is as good as we can be while still being "Michigan". But I believe we can win a National Chapionship withour selling our soul to Nick Saban.
I look forward to the massive negging that I am about to receive. The Chris Webber era should never ever be celebrated just because of the results on the court.
|18 weeks 5 days ago||You can't have it both ways||
"if we do this stuff, we better win big". Total garbage attitude. Either the actions of the staff are right or wrong. The resultant winning or losing doesn't have a thing to do with it.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||Jay Riemersma||
The move from QB to TE worked out just fine for another tall athletic UM signal caller... 9 NFL seasons, 23 TDs, 2500+ yards. And his TE coach at UM not Jim Harbaugh, it was... wait for it... Mike Debord.
|47 weeks 6 days ago||ESPN and "Journalism" LOL||
Quote from ESPN NBA suck-up-in-chief Chriss Broussard's "insider take" on rumors of John Calipari going to Sacramento: "It's not a stretch that they may have talked about it to some degree." Wow, that's journalism. No word yet on if he has figured out a way to add a syllable to Coach Cal's name, as so eloquently has for "Duh-wayne Wade" or "Duh-wight Howard"
|1 year 8 weeks ago||Adidas School? *sigh||
I am repulsed by the idea that a kid would choose a school based on it's apparel contract. Even if it helps us in this case, it pisses me off. And while you're at it, GET OFF MY LAWN!
|1 year 13 weeks ago||Damage to WHICH brand?||
The only "brand" they damaged was that of the University, their fraternity, and their families. But of course the resort is padding the numbers, just like every plaintiff in a civil suit seeking damages case ever has. I say pound these losers for every penny, whether theirs or their parents'. Welcome to grown-up world, kids. Time to pay the piper.
|1 year 18 weeks ago||"Happy"?!?||
That's where you're wrong, Tom. As a "fan" of my teams, I'm never "happy as hell" about an opposing star player's injury. It might make me like my team's chances more, but that's not the same as being "happy as hell".
I wasn't "happy as hell" when Barrett or Miller went down with season ending injuries - I actually felt bad for them - injuries suck. But I WAS "happy as hell" when Golson was suspended for academic fraud, because the kid was still intact, physically.
What a loser.
|1 year 20 weeks ago||RichRod's Pic||
I happened to be looking at Richrod's wikipedia page and they still have a Michigan picture of him on there. Weird.
|1 year 24 weeks ago||Wisconsin as "elite program"||
I have no idea where this idea got started. I don't get the logic that somehow good coaches leaving Madison is some sign of the apocalypse for the B1G.
Check the record - They have had a couple of two- or three-year really good stretches over the past 30 years, where they have had 1 or 2 losses and finished in the top 10. They generally finish ranked 15-ish most years, with lots of "receiving votes" rankings sprinkled in throughout. They have really good OL and RBs year in and year out (yipee)
Barry Alvarez has somehow been elevated into some college football god status despite a LOT of mediocre seasons when he was at the reigns. Yes, he brought them up from years of northwestern/purdue status up a couple notches, but they are no more elite than Georgia or Kansas State or Tennessee - they've had some really good teams in small bursts, but historically not in the top ten nationally. I wasn't shocked when Bielema or Anderson left, and I won't be shocked when the next guy leaves to go to North Carolina or Boston College.
|1 year 25 weeks ago||Great work||
I loved his take on "Michigan Man" and only slightly less loved him bitch-slapping Drew Sharp's stupid question. And the swinging pendulum physics analogy was great because I am a nerd engineer.
|1 year 25 weeks ago||Sad day...||
It’s really a sad day. For the program, for Brady, and for the seniors.
Brady fell victim to the Peter Principle – promoted beyond his skill set. I don’t think there is a better example of it than this – outside of 7 of the past 8 Lions head coaches.
We can all have a sense of relief, but I won’t celebrate. Brady is a really good guy - this was truly his dream job, and he just wasn’t up to the task. I felt the same about Rodriguez the day he was fired; good guy, didn’t get the job done, and it was just time to go – I didn’t celebrate that day either.
And man – those seniors – they have put up with a whole lot of crap over the time they’ve been here. I really feel for those guys. They didn’t come to Michigan thinking they’d have to watch two guys they love get fired like this…
|1 year 25 weeks ago||Peter principle||
Outside of the 7 out of the last 8 Detroit Lions HC's, you'll be hard pressed to find a more perfect example of the peter principle at work. Great guy, great position coach, adequate mid major HC, promoted beyond his skillset. Best of luck, Mr. Hoke. Sorry your dream job didn't work out.
|1 year 25 weeks ago||I'm no IT guy||
But it might be time to update the host server to something, um, adequate. Just a suggestion.
|1 year 25 weeks ago||Soo....||
All you need to have a good Defense is an expensive DC? Does that rule apply to Offenses too? Because Al Borges would disagree with you.
|1 year 25 weeks ago||By your logic, then||
We should have kept Rodriguez areound, allowed him use his really good offense as a springboard, allow him time to learn from his mistake of having a nonexistent defense, until he figured it out and then we'd be really good?
So by that logic we should keep Brady around, allow him to use his really good defense as a springboard, allow him time to learn from his mistake of having a terrible offense and zero player development, until he figures it out and then we'll be really good?
No thank you.
I actually agree that we would be better of if we had kept Rodriguez, but it just wasn't possible. It was time for him to go, just like it is with Brady. Neither one worked, for different reasons. Revising history to paint Rodriguez as a tragic victim is just that - revisionist.
|1 year 25 weeks ago||I could have scripted your response||
"Rich Rodriguez blew it here, and he learned." That's reductivism from our esteemed leader. Take it up with him.
|1 year 25 weeks ago||Thank you...||
No one ever said Rodriquez' offense didn't work - of course it did. Any moron can see that. Hoke has been a failure. There can be no doubt of that. Yet when I say Rodriquez failed here, I get berated for being a Manball Michigan Man Moron. But to all the MGoDesciples that keep saying "we should have kept Rodriquez" over and over and over again, your prophet just summed it up:
" Rich Rodriguez blew it here, and he learned. He dumped his defensive staff, got Jeff Casteel back, and is headed to the Pac-12 championship game with a freshman QB after having beaten Oregon in back-to-back years."
Thank you, now can we please STOP pointing to Rodriguez' current success as evidence that we should have kept him? He ignored the defensive side of the ball the entire time he was here, got fired because of it, learned his lesson, and now figured out that when you have a great offense, a pretty good defense is good enough.
|1 year 26 weeks ago||"one more game this season"||
That question goes without comment from the coach... Not exactly oozing with optimism, are we coach?
|1 year 26 weeks ago||Statistical definitions||
Could someone kindly direct me to the explanation of the stats are discussed for hoops (eFG%, TO%, OR%, etc.)? Thanks!
|1 year 26 weeks ago||This is so dumb||
We all have contributed to the Jim Harbaugh salary. It's called ticket prices. Does anyone really think we won't open the checkbook to get Harbaugh? Salary is the lowest hurdle we have in getting him. His trophy No-Cal wife and Jim's ego are what will stop him from (a) leaving the bay area and (b) leaving the NFL to return to college without a superbowl ring, respectively.
|1 year 27 weeks ago||I think we agree||
Succession planning was part of his job, and he failed. But he still won a lot. In your analogy, the company was immensly profitable during the CEO's tenure. He did everything right except the succession plan. He was still a very good CEO. The fact that the board hired a buffoon to replace him isn't his fault.
|1 year 27 weeks ago||The "we hate running the ball" crew||
I totally agree and don't understand the DeBord hate. They complain that DeBord would run the football the whole game and then FINALLY throw to our awesome wide receivers. Of course it COULD be that running the football gets LB's crashing and allows for man coverage at the corners freeing Braylon up for 4th quarter drama. Crazy talk, I know... but Mr. Saban and the guy in EL that looks like Doofenschmirtz might agree with me.
|1 year 27 weeks ago||Head coach's #1 Job is to win||
This is a fantastic history lesson - I've been thinking about this a lot.
Lloyd did, for the most part, do his job of winning games the right way. I get that you can point to the lack of a successor as a critique, but who gives a damn if you're winning? What is so wrong with picking guys who aspire only to be assistants, and by the way they happen to be pretty good at it.
But remember, Lloyd didn't happen in a vacuum. Moeller's implosion also chased the two coaches that were in the coaching tree (albiet not Lloyd's) - Miles and Cameron, who were fantastic assistants by any measure. Moeller was a direct succession to Bo, as was Lloyd, but with Lloyd, Mo, Cam, and Les no longer assistants, that left a gaping hole in the succession tree that was filled with the guys who were left - Debord and Parrish/Malone. And don't forget that Bo was still alive and adored during those times, and had an office three doors down from the HC's office. Don't think he wasn't consulted REGULARLY on those kinds of decisions, and the default was to keep the assitant jobs in-house.
Whatever unsubstantiated rumor you might attribute the Moeller/Les/Cam exit, it had a huge impact.
Lloyd wasn't perfect, but he did a fantastic job of balancing winning and representing the University as a whole, and if his only flaw was that he didn't have a successor, then I'll take it. The blame for the successors after that lies solidly in the lap of the men who hired them - Lay off of Lloyd
|1 year 27 weeks ago||Leadership||
I hope Clark can pull it together and make it somehow. He was one of the few bright spots on the team, and now even that small joy has been taken away.
I have said since day 1 that the fact that Hoke chose no captains this year was an indicator of a vacuum of player leadership. This is just further evidence of that fact. Not every senior can be a team leader, but it would be nice if there was at least one on this team. Another sad day for the program.
|1 year 27 weeks ago||Pass rush?||
Would it matter to you how good our pass rush is with or with out him? I wouldn't care if he was the second coming of Reggie White - clearly he is a bad guy, and was given a second chance once already. I don't want to hear any "let the legal system take it's course" either. If he plays another down at Michigan I will be disgusted.
edit: sorry this was suppoosed to be posted under "the "we didn't have anything" thread. I suck at MGoPosting
|1 year 27 weeks ago||Pass Rush?||
Would it matter to you how good our pass rush is with or with out him? I wouldn't care if he was the second coming of Reggie White - clearly he is a bad guy, and was given a second chance once already. I don't want to hear any "let the legal system take it's course" either. If he plays another down at Michigan I will be disgusted.
|1 year 29 weeks ago||"Kitty corner"||
Thank you, sir, for using the proper term. "Catty-corner" is for Buckeyes. I would like to toast you with a ice cold pop.
|1 year 30 weeks ago||Pete Carroll?||
I know he didn't exactly leave New England of his own accord to go to USC, but I think it's pretty clear that Harbaugh won't really be leaving SF completely on his own either (if that happens). And I still think his trophy NoCal wife was a significant reason he wasn't interested in Michigan the first time around - and I don't know if he is still married to said trophy wife now, either.
Also Charlie Weis vaguely fits into that category, and that's saying something because he doesn't usually fit into anything (sorry couldn't resist).
Any real candidate for a major college job like Michigan understands that college fans can be a little bit nutty, and that coach, driven by their ego, will always assume (correctly) that winning will cure all fan vitriol. And since they are mostly egocentric people, they are going t turn that program around and the fans will buy them a $3M house in Tuscaloosa. It's having an AD that watches film with them and throws them, unsupported, to the media wolves after the Morris incident that will keep good candidates away, not a passionate and angry fan base.
Also regarding Brandon's passive agressive emails being cause for dismissal. Gary Moeller, a good mand and a pretty darn good coach, didn't really get fired for being drunk and disorderly... he got fired for being mediocre. It was pulling the "Do you know who I am?!" card out in the back of a police car, and recording of that drunken rant getting to WJR that ended it for him. Once the recording got on the airwaves it was over. Even that might have been overcome if not for several 4-loss (or 3 tie) seasons. In other words, when your job performance is mediocre bordering bad, you shouldn't give your boss an excuse to fire you, be it snarky emails or a recorded drunken rampage.
|1 year 30 weeks ago||Amen||
YesYesYes. Thank you for bringing some needed perspective.
|1 year 30 weeks ago||"Runs up the score"||
Running up the score entails passing, calling timeouts, running a hurry up, going for two, kicking a field goal etc. They did none of these.
Yes, MSU could've taken a knee. But they ran the ball over and over, using the same formation (unbalenced line shift) and we couldn't stop them, even though we knew it was coming. We were manhandled the whole day. We sure showed them with the tent spike though!
|1 year 30 weeks ago||Manners?||
I am not looking for manners, just perspective. You can run your mouth when the series has been close lately, or it’s expected to be a close game, at least. You don’t make your stake-in-the-turf stunt when you’ve been getting manhandled for 5 years and are heavy road underdogs. You keep you mouth shut and let your game do the talking.
The Harbaugh guarantee is a great example. The series was nip-and-tuck for 10 years prior to that game, and Harbaugh was the undisputed leader of the team – he had earned the right to make a strong statement. Bo stood behind it publically because Harbaugh had earned the mandate as a leader to do it. Remember, Bo didn’t agree with Harbaugh publically on lots of occasions. But that’s the difference between a leader being a leader and the inmates running the asylum. Thanks, you basically made my point for me.
As your other examples - Woody, Tressell, and Dantonio – of how to act “fiery” as a leader, you can have them. If you think these guys are what we should emulate, then you and I can fight right now.
|1 year 30 weeks ago||Sorry, my bad.||
The field is made of grass. I can recall a time when we didn't give a shit what Spartan Stadium's playing surface was made of. So you thought it was a good idea, then?
|1 year 30 weeks ago||Mmmmkay...||
Obviously there are a different # of adults and children. That's why it is, you know, an analogy. But I still think it works, even after rereading it. It is still about leadership of young, immature players.
He is apologizing for something his players did, when it's clear he should have taught those players not to do stupid stuff like that. The "we can't possibly control the actions of the players" argument is complete garbage. If you can't control 65 players for 4 hours while in uniform on the field of play you need to find a new job. If we are going to hold other coaches' accountable for the stupid immature stuff their players do, like the Marcus Hall double bird, or the similar loser antics of the state player that got ejected for targeting on Saturday, then we hold our own coaches to the same standard.
As far as the TSA comment I don't have any problem with using the cute little tent stake as a motivational tool, even having it on the sidelines. Just don't be stupid and douchey with it.
|1 year 30 weeks ago||Yes I remember.||
That was back when we were kicking their arse every year. You know back when Train and Norah Jones were dominating the music scene... Your comment is just about as relevant. Put down the coors light and acknowledge who we are, not who we used to be.
So I assume you think putting a little tent stake into an artificial turf field when you're a 18 point dog was a nifty idea?
|1 year 31 weeks ago||Jeff Long||
I worked daily in Schembecler Hall for several years under Lloyd and Mo in the early 90s. Jeff Long, at that time, was the Assistant AD for Football Ops. He is a sharp guy, but really a colossal D-Bag. Backstabbing, politically calculating, and not willing to stick his neck out for anyone other than himself. His hire of Beilema was not at all surprising, as it was a safe, non-controversial choice with very little upside - i.e. pretty much everyone knew what Beilema was when he hired him, and there was very little hope that he would be a great coach. Sound familiar? In my opinion if Jeff Long was the AD during the Richrod firing, we would have gotten Brady Hoke as our coach anyway - it's just that he probably would have been our second choice instead of our 5th.
I think he would be a better administrator than Brandon, insofar as he is a lifetime collegiate AD type and would be far less corporate. Which is a good thing. But if we hire Jeff Long, you can more of the same, but with less piped in music and uniformzzzz. Which is not a good thing.
|1 year 31 weeks ago||I prefer a different villain to mock Dantonio with:||
|1 year 35 weeks ago||True 'dat.||
I am not a fan of Simmons, either, but the most dispicable irony is that he received a longer suspension than Ray Rice's original suspension for basically telling the truth about Goodell... That is, before the NFL said "wait, you mean you actually hit her in the elevator, Ray?!? We thought she hit herself in the face repeatedly with an anvil! You're fired, Ray!"
ESPN is a complete joke. There's a reason that "entertainment" is their first name - if you believe they are a journalistic entity of any shade you're naive at best and stupid at worst. Their "insider" guys (Shefter et al.) get their stories by walking into the team HQ and getting spoon fed the information that the team wants them to have. There is no investigation whatsoever in their investigative "reporting," they are too reliant on the NFL for content on their four networks + radio to cross them. Listen to their crappy radio shows on any given morning - you will NEVER hear anything negative about the NFL there that hasn't been reported repeatedly elsewhere. And If if you do ever cross the NFL while employed by ESPN... well...
|1 year 35 weeks ago||Jeff Long AD||
No no no no no NO!
I worked closely with Jeff Long during his tenure at Schembecler Hall as the Assistant AD in charge of Football Ops. You do not want him. He is David Brandon without the business background. I personally watched him preside over several internal issues (that were never made public - oh, for the days before social media) and he was constantly advising Jack Wittenbach to ignore or sweep things under the rug - a la Ravens handling of Ray Rice. He was professional only to people who could benefit him personally, regulary accepted personal benefits from pushing commercial deals to his friends (such as free hotel stays for his family when he would choose a certain hotel for a bowl trip) and it pains me to know he will be sitting on the playoff selection committee.
He is a snake - slimy, cruel and inconsiderate to people who reported to him and regularly undermined people above him. Trust me when I say that will be a complete disaster. Brandon must go, but Warde Manual is a solid person, top to bottom. Long is a complete scumbag.
|1 year 37 weeks ago||Devin and Denard||
In truth, neither one ever progressed AS A PASSER* while at Michigan, and that is 95% a Borges problem. It's really quite sad. I am sure Nuss will be better at QB development, but Denard was the same AS A PASSER the day he left as he was the day he arrived - strong arm, mediocre feet, mediocre decisions. Gardner is the same AS A PASSER today as he was the day he arrived - strong arm, mediocre feet, mediocre decisions (and yes I realize that he had a whole season as a reciever). I think/hope he will get better by the end of the year, but just imagine if we had kept him on the outside as a wideout, with Funchess and Norfleet, and now had a fully operational southpaw Shane Morris slinging it from sideline to sideline. Damn.
*capitalized for emphasis so that it is clear to myopic blog readers that I am only talking about Denard and Devin as a passer. Not as a runner, not even as as a QB, not as a beloved leader and face of our program whom we all love dearly, author included.
|1 year 37 weeks ago||Brandon as Hapless Father Figure||
Think dad from Ferris Bueller ("wrap a hot towel around your head"). Or maybe Satan the dark prince himself.
Or maybe the dad from Phineas and Ferb, which is perfect because that a-hole DB Dantonio looks just like Doofenshmirtz.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||Never ever ever...||
I am as likely to even CONSIDER this question of World Cup over UM Football as I am to watch the Tour de France.
|1 year 48 weeks ago||Lighten up, Francis.||
It's what we do here. Debating whether a certain win is "muppet-worthy" is a time honored tradition here.
|1 year 48 weeks ago||Compelling argument||
By "compelling" I mean "nonexistant". Perhaps I was too obscure in my analysis. I believe that we should not be excited about making the round of 16, beause a nation of our resources and economic power should be in the top 16 in this game. To repeate my original point, I am not saying we shouldn't be excited about the novelty of this step, but muppets are reserved for very special accomplishements, and this is not a special accomplishement.
|1 year 48 weeks ago||.||
|1 year 48 weeks ago||"equivalent to the sweet 16"?||
I don't see it. I'll say it again. To get into this round we had to to surpass these two nations:
This would be like the Patriots storming the field after having a .500 season, or the Yankees celebrating a 90 win season by popping champagne, or Michigan beating Indiana in football. It's a nice accomplishent, but Muppets, man. Muppets.
|1 year 48 weeks ago||No Muppets!||
Although I hate ties, I understand the round robin format, so save your "stupid american" blasts. I am very glad we made it through. I am enjoying watching this team grow up and develop before our eyes. I watched this game, and I will watch the elimination games.
But no freaking way does the USMNT making it to the round of 16 earn Muppets. It's like beating Indiana or getting into the NCAA tournament as a 10 seed. Muppets are for excellence. This is not excellence, it's nice progress. We finished ahead of Ghana and Portugal. A little perspective here would be nice.
|1 year 49 weeks ago||Soccer Fans...||
...can one of you please explain why I shouldn't be pissed that the mysterious "extra time" clock went from "4-ish" minutes to "5-ish" minutes? And we gave up the pivotal goal at about 4:30? What is so hard about having a person on the clock who stops it during injuries and substitutions, and a clock that everyone can see that shows exactly how much time is left?
I'm not being a smart-ass, I just can't undestand how I can go to a 4th grade basketball game and there is a scoreboard clock that can be relied on by the players and coaches, but in the biggest tournament of the most popular game in the world, we have to rely on one guy with a stopwatch in his pocket?
And how is there not regularly conspiracy theories about how the games end?
Also one more question - what do they do in the final game for a tie after regulation? They obviously can't have two champions, right?
|2 years 1 week ago||In person assessment||
I happened to see both Gardner and Malzone play an entire HS football game in person. Gardner was a talented freak with a very strong, albiet incredibly irratic arm, but didn't look like much of a QB to me. Looked more like a WR or TE prospect if not for our Denard situation and talent vacuum at the position at the time. Obviously he's grown into a good QB, but I still contend he'd have been better utilized elsewhere.
Malzone, however, was all pure QB. Rice played a spread in the game I saw (state championship game at Ford Field) and was throwing the pill all over the yard, scrambling, incredibly accurate and decisive. I LOVED the guy, but had never heard of him before the game, and when I got home looked him up and was astounded that he was a fringe 2 or 3 star at the time. I was just amazed, since what I had just watched looked like a prototype 1995-2005 Michigan QB. I'm reallly glad we got this guy, even if he was our 3rd choice (or later). Hope my gut on him turns out the be right.
|2 years 5 weeks ago||A color is not trademarkable||
except in very VERY rare cases. This is not one of them - it has to have an exclusive market implication as to a product or brand. And even if it was, there is no way that Nike could own the trademark... if anyone owned it it would be the University, since the color is associated with the athletic department and existed many years before Nike existed. If suckiness in uniform design could be trademarked, however, I am pretty sure Adidas would hold the rights.
|2 years 7 weeks ago||In other news...||
...Bernie Madoff has some suggestions on how to improve the regulatory effectiveness of the Securities and Exchange Commission. Please...
|2 years 13 weeks ago||Downvote for "euchre" misspelling...||
Commence "downvote for being a spellchecker on a sports blog" thread below...
|2 years 15 weeks ago||New favorite phrase||
The phrase "mildly psychoactive taco" is a new fave of mine. A tee shirt at MGoStore would be fabulous...
|2 years 37 weeks ago||Comparoni on the "Huge Show" right now attempting to explain||
And failing miserably. The gist of his explanation is that he "thought he was only talking to 300-or so hard-core spartan fans". As if sometimes that makes it OK. Several years ago some guy from a major oil company - Exxon maybe - was busted saying ridiculously racist comments in a board room. I don't remember the "I didn't think anyone was listening" defense worked then... or now. Loser.
|2 years 43 weeks ago||Perfectly stated||
My comment below expands on this a bit, but the skill set for a wolf and FS are blending together... Kind of like a Will and rush end are as well. The widening variety of offensive sets and the infiltration of spread concepts in every system makes versatility on D of paramount importance.
|2 years 43 weeks ago||"The strength of the pack is the wolf..."||
Very nice work up, Seth. I could read this stuff all freaking day. This is what truly makes this blog unlike any other...
Some historical commentary - the strong safety or "boundary" safety is internally known as the "wolf" in Michigan Bo/Lloyd/Moeller/Herrmann lore. ("the strength of the pack is the wolf, and the strength of the wolf is the pack")
Back in the 90s and early 2000s, there was a clear distinction in the position in terms of skill set - the wolf's general job description was to support the run, cover a tight end/RB/or slot in the passing game, and be able to shed a pulling guard. He was a faster linebacker, bulky and strong, and not as fast (i.e. Shonte Peoples). Incredibly rare was the day you walked an OLB out onto a H back in the slot. That was the wolf's job. The free safety was a faster, leaner athlete that could cover the post or pole route and run down a backside RB in a screen - a stronger corner... (i.e. Trippe Welbourne or Corwin Brown).
This is not news to any of our intelligent MGoBloggers here, but the reason it has evolved is due to the complexities of the offensive schemes we now face, and the fact that the safeties are more interchangeable because they need to cover the run more and the wolf no longer is as specialized because he might face a flood of recievers/RB/TEs in the flat, or a running QB on the outside. So I guess my point is that there is less specialization because the safeties, "free", "wolf" or whatever, need to be large corners instead of fast linebacker.
All I am saying is that if you asked Mattison who the wolf is, he'd still tell you he was the safety to the strong side. It's just that offenses use more field now, and are less predicated on purely formation strength. So 90% of the time in today's offenses the strong side is away from the boundary, regadless of formation.
To test my theory, I'll be watching us against a conventional offense like MSU. I bet you'll see a conventional defensive alignment of wolf and FS, sometimes into the boundary when the formation dictates...
|2 years 46 weeks ago||Nope...||
The guy to the left of Lloyd in that pic was a strength and conditioning assistant coach by the name of Ed O'dowd. I was a student manager on staff a couple years later.
Of most concern to me is why I have a playtex banner add on the MGoBlog page. Someone is getting ripped off for their advertising dollars. Playtex - the official feminine hygeine product of Michigan Football. What's next, MGoTampon? MGoMidol next?
|3 years 8 weeks ago||Physicalness||
|3 years 12 weeks ago||Bo Hat||
I can live with the evolution of Maize. I can barely live with yellow letters on yellow uniformZ, but the embroidered block M that's forbidden is the Bo Block M hat logo. What possible reason could there be for not allowing one of the most hallowed traditions in Michigan Gear History?
Depresses me just seeing it there, like a great dream you wake from wishing you could go back to...
|3 years 14 weeks ago||Wow. This must be bumped.||
Great, great work... It really brings into focus the mysterious, blurry world of the B1G's logic. At least now I know there might actually be some, even though I might disagree with it to some degree. We always hear phrases tossed around like "academic fit" and "research university" regarding expansion, but only a handful people understand that like you clearly do. Well done, sir. Well done.
|3 years 15 weeks ago||One and done...||
...is the dumbest thing in college athletics. What a shame for this kid, who could be getting paid for rehabbing if he was able to play in the NBA this season.
Actually I take that back. "One and Done" is the SECOND dumbest thing. It was just passed in the rankings by the first name "Nerlens". Yes, Nerlens is the dumbest. Definitely.
|3 years 17 weeks ago||81-72 Meeeeshigan||
|3 years 19 weeks ago||Tap the brakes...||
We are still watching one of our best teams ever, I believe. But mostly we are watching one of the best coaches in the business... Sans Beilen, I would have watched this game with disgust assuming that the mental errors were a sign of immaturity and me-first NBA mentality garbage that would send us spiraling into a 3 game losing streak we've all seen so many times after a UM team with a promising start loses their first major test of the season.
HOWEVA' in this case, as stated by others, Beilein will take these kids to task for their bad shots, bad decisions, and lack of patience in film session. Watching Coach B speak firmly to Burke on the sideline was reallly illustrative to me. It was like a great teaching HS coach and his star player. Burke was attentive and nodding, and Coach was intense but calm. You just kind of KNOW that there was true learning happening. I don't think I've seen that on a college or pro basketball court in, like, forever. He still made some bad decisions late - the long step back three after a timeout in the second (or third?) to last possession was just mystifying to me - but I think he gets it.
Also HOWEVA' - Someone needs to slap Hardaway. He's the only guy on this team that, at times, just disregards the entire scheme, game situation, or his position on the court, and decides to jack up a three 10 seconds into the shot clock. Repeatedly. Dude is a seriously selfish player. He's better this year than last, but he should know better by now.
|3 years 21 weeks ago||In order of preference:||
1. Meteor. Obviously
2. Tide Blowout - Mostly for selfish reasons to confirm what I've been telling my ND alumni friends - that their season thus far has been essentially a 7-win season with some incredibly lucky breaks that have gone their way to make them undefeated.
3. ND narrow win - Giving the SEC a losing record and at least slightly tempering their god-aweful arrogance.
100. ND blowout - This would be the worst scenario because I'd have to listen to said ND alumni friends rant about how they're back, even though they are clearly not.
|3 years 21 weeks ago||Iowa?||
The biggest question raised in my mind after reading this post is "Why is there a town in Iowa called Coralville?" Is there an ocean in the midwest I was not aware of?
|3 years 26 weeks ago||Although I HATED the 4th and 3 call...||
...of a inside trap using Vincent Smith, Lewan flat out missed the block of the backside linebacker on the play. It actually would have worked. But not having the greatest offensive player is the winningest program's history sit out the 4th quarter in his last game against the hated rival is, simply, inexcusable.
|3 years 31 weeks ago||Never mind the Bulloughs!||
Max is the real deal, the best of the Bulloughs, and the youngest one will not play at MSU (I've seen them all play).
|3 years 31 weeks ago||Rivalry?||
This is EXACLTY why we will never see MSU as a rival equal to OHIO. Can any of you possibly, under any circumstance, see yourself saying the equivalent of "This game doesn't matter" or "nobody cares what happens in this game" about the school down south. No. Never.
Until Spartan fans start realizing this, they can't whine when we refuse to grant them the same level of rivalry of the suckeyes.
Now, then... Back to your end of the pool, Sparty. Go Blue!
|4 years 32 weeks ago||Whoa Tater!||
I think Hoke is a very good coach, and the coordinators are outstanding. Not looking for a coaching change. Just analyzing the game, and making a case that we were outcoached in one game. So settle down and take your 7000 MGoBlog points and take them to the counter at Chuck E Cheese and get yourself a rubber tomohawk.
Or you could actaully refute the points I made.
|4 years 33 weeks ago||Can someone explain||
the whole Tacopants reference to me? I've been reading this blog for a couple years now, and I still don't know where it comes from. Thanks.
|4 years 37 weeks ago||A couple points on which I disagree:||
1. The screen play was not lucky. It's a great play, especially when you have dilithium and everyone wants to overpursue him.
2. " Michigan ran 61.76% of its plays out of the shotgun. So this is still a 60% spread offense. " I really can't believe the silliness of this comment. Just because a play is run out of the shotgun doesn't mean it a spread offense play. I haven't studied the film, but I know there was plenty of pro-style shotgun plays, which is a very common formation when you have an undersized QB in a pro-style offense.
3. I still don't by that Denard can't run a prostyle offense (with heavy doses of shotgun for sure) We all know he'll never be the Grbac/Collins/Griese/Brady/Navarre/Henne archetype. On Saturday he made some horrific throws. Some of them were bad decisions, and the rest were horrible accuracy, and he got away with more of them than he should have due to great reciever play and lousy coverage (not to mention ND wackiness in red zone). The decision-making problem can be corrected in time, and the accuracy can be improved - of course he'll never be Brees or Brady. His biggest detriment is his height, but he more than makes up for it with his athleticism (this just in...). He has one of those "live arms" that is possessed by only a few men on earth (Michael Vick, Denard, Kordell Stewart, come to mind.). If he learns the reads, makes better decisions, and can improve his accuracy he has the basic tools for greatness. Remember he's not been running this offense very long. Borges has proven so far that he knows what he has. He just needs to coach him up on the offensive philosophy. I would like to see more rollouts to allow him to create and improvise more easily, but that doesn't mean you HAVE to run the spread. By the end of the year he's going to be Troy Smith or Michael Vick (college version).
|4 years 40 weeks ago||I like Pop Evil||
(they're from my home town of Muskegon). And I like "that type of music" in general. I just think this song is really unimaginative and uninteresting. A clear pub grab by a band that really doesn't need it. It reminds me of those lame NFL songs that get played on occasion (the lions have one that is horribly bad, and the Bears have their equally lame "Bear down, Chicago bears" anthem.
|4 years 40 weeks ago||Did GERG ghostwrite this piece||
I love this site. But this is a horrible assessment of Ann Arbor eating and drinking. Seriously, Touchdown's? How can you extensively research the benefits/drawbacks of the zone reach, but not walk down South U before posting a piece on Ann Arbor nightlife? That pla ce sucked from the day it opened (ca. 1993) and continued to suck the whole time it existed. And BW3?!?! The chainiest chain that ever demanded it's servers wear pieces of flair? Was Benningans not hip enough? Shame on you!
And Blimpy's is the same as it always has been. I have no problem with saying you don't like it because it's greasy (true 'dat) but don't say it is worse than it used
|4 years 41 weeks ago||OK I think I was unclear about a couple things||
Starting last to first. I was a skeptic, but by the time RR got fired I was 101% in agreement that the offense completely kicks a$$. Spectacularly good. I would accept your description of " unstoppable this year and next" completely. Not a teensy bit of argument from me. If RR had made even marginal progress on developing a defense that could, on occasion, stop somebody on 3rd and 5, I was in favor of keeping him on. He just never did. The Robinson hiring and subsequent forcefeeding of the 3-3-5 scheme to him was the tipping point and sent the RR regime circling the drain.
What I was trying to communicate, apparently ineffectively, was fairly simple:
|4 years 41 weeks ago||Welcome back!||
Truly great analysis, as always.
The "regression to the mean" perfectly describes what I've been trying unsuccessfully to say any time someone asks me "How is Michigan going to be this year?". Of course the Offense will be worse. And the defense will be better. By how much? That is the question. I tend to think the offense will be talented enough to regress less than the defense will improve. The drive-killing inability to convert a 3rd and 10 and the ability to have a 12 play drive will help the defense as well. And improvement in special teams (we hope) will mean no more going for it on 4th and 5 from the other team's 30 yard line. Also helping the defense.
Thanks again and keep up the great work.
|4 years 41 weeks ago||Much respect for owning the error...||
Easy for me to say, but I actually suspected the data really meant how the 1stdown was acquired, rather than 1stdown play calling… The tip off was the presence of “penalty” in the chart, which makes no sense related to play calling. It is a perfect example of cherry picking a stat that backs up your opinion, rather than letting the stats help to form your opinion. i.e. if the data had shown that Hoke liked to run on first down, we would never have seen it on this blog. Of course I was too lazy to actually research it myself…
I still don’t understand why the RR faction is so anti-Hoke. Any moron can admit, myself included, that the RR offense was flourishing… it was going to be magnificent in a couple more years. As a skeptic from the beginning I can be Manball enough to admit that the “Spread offense can work in the Big 10” is settled law. No more debate. But as great as the offense was, or was going t be, the defense was so pathetic that its remarkable crappiness actually more than offset the offense’s success.
In any case, I enjoyed the fundamentally flawed analysis. Keep up the (99.9% accurate) good work
|5 years 5 days ago||We get it||
We Bo desciples get how annoying it is that we hated Richrod because he was the anti-Bo. And we get it that we were wrong, or at least we were overly anti-Rodriguez than was fair to him and the program. And I will say for the record that I was totally, completely wrong about the offense being ineffective, not working in the Big 11, etc.
BUT. Our defense sucked arse. And was not in any danger of improving. And Rodriguez, as good as he was at offensive Xs and Os, just didn't get the Michigan Man thing. Curse me and all my brothers in winged helmets, but he just didn't.
But here's my point... Bo, and Mo, and Lloyd had a philosophy, which was buried somewhere in the "Those who stay will be champions" mantra, that those outside the program have never quite understood. When a guy was ready to leave the program after having the crap kicked out of him as a Demo player during his redshirt year, or was ready to quit because a freshman running back took his spot he felt entitled to after three years of sweat, or was going to transfer because he was moved from tight end to guard to linebacker, no one ever asked him to stay. EVER. The coaches would tell them why it was good for THEM as a man and a person to stay in the program , but the philosophy was always "if you want to leave, we aren't going to ask you to stay. Those who stay will be champions. Period." I was at Michigan during the Moeller years, and when guys transferred (Jon Ritchie, Trevor Pryce, Eric Boykin, etc.) Coach Moeller would explain it yet again to us all.
And I know that is what Desmond was saying - He wasn't judging whether the program would be better or not if Denard stayed or left; we all know that him leaving would hurt like hell. But the point was that a sophomore who had a great year is still not larger than the program; and what Bo or Mo or Lloyd would have said to him is "Son, you are welcome here, but if you are going to leave, then godspeed." And they would have absolutely meant it , too.
And I was one of the old Bo guys who at least understood what Richrod was trying to do at the Bust with the Josh Grobin thing. He was trying to capture that same spirit that the "those who stay" era seemed to easily explain - We are men of michigan first, whether on the bench, or being drafted in the first round - and with that comes a certain measure of pride that only a Michigan Man can really understand.
I know how many of you hate the whole "Michigan Man" arrogance, and I completely understand why. I really do. But it is still what makes the place special. And if Richrod had understood that, he would still be our coach...
|5 years 20 weeks ago||This story is total crap||
Count on it.
|5 years 21 weeks ago||Sorry bro -||
I was using it mostly as a literary device... he mentioned in his post that he was and engineer and wants data, so I was appealing to that side of him, while also notiing that it can't be all about data.
No angst intended towards my MLB, Angell Hall, and Frieze (sp?) Building brothers in arms... Go blue.
|5 years 21 weeks ago||Count me as anti-RR||
and a huge fan, alumnus, letter winner, whatever. I have never and will never "not support (my) own team" because of RR or any other coach. I would have loved for RR to be 9-3 this year and getting an extension, because that would have meant our defense was marginal and our special teams were passable. But they got worse, and not by a little bit; by a TON.
This is big-boy football, and he gets paid a great deal of money, with a potential for nearly unmatched fame and adoration, if he's into that. But with great reward comes great responsibility.
|5 years 21 weeks ago||Thanks||
And your response is likewise great.
I guess my point of the GE analogy is to point out that Bill Martin is the guy who hired RR, essentially as a last resort before absolute armageddon (a.k.a Mike Debord), and appears to have disregarded the "Michigan Culture" aspect to the detriment of all.
Or more succinctly than I previously posted - UM has factions and politicking, just like every large, old, successful organization. If RR had been sensitive to and respectful of the factions he would have probably survived, but he seemed, through it all, to not give a damn.
Thanks for the great analysis - keep it coming!
|5 years 21 weeks ago||Two sided reply||
To the "engineer" in you (I am BSME '96, btw):
It's almost a given that he had more talent on D than he had on O when he took over (even with mallet and boren inthe fold). RR has stacked the offense with "his guys" and had incredible success. Why has there been such regression on D and specials? I agree with you - results speak louder than LSA wishy washy crap. Apart from great progress on offense, what measurables can you give me in support of guy?
Now to the practical side of you:
All great, longstanding organizations have a certain culture ingrained in them. General Electric, Apple, The US Government, The Catholic Church. Choosing a leader of those organization without considering the culture is idiotic. Jack Welch leading Apple or Steve Jobs leading GE would be equally catestropnic for each organization - both men are considered geniuses in their own right. Rich Rod will succeed somewhere, but pretending that a coach from one program can be plugged into another without any consideration of the "fit" is naive at best and stubborn at worst. This isn't UCF or Northwestern, where the football tradition is nonexistant an needs to be constructed from the bottom up.
This is why he failed - he didn't respect the tradition, and didn't act like he cared that we cared. This doesn't make him a bad leader - that would be a great attribute in someone taking over Indiana or SMU. But it makes him a bad choice for Michigan. Most RR supporters want to blame the "arrogant alumni" or "Bo disciples" for their "backstabbing". Instead of wishing that UMFB was a bastion of impartiality and unified support of the future instead of the past, Bill Martin should have acknowledged the REALITY of the organization he was hiring into and chosen a candidate appropriately based on many factors - Xs and Os, History of Success, penchant for innovation and *gasp* respect for the traditions of the university. RR had three of those four. We need a clean sweep.
I'm tired of people saying that RR's failure at UM is a symptom of some intrinsic defect in UMs culture. We're still the greatest football program ever. Until that changes, I would like a coach that respects that tradition as well as can coach like a mutha'. Godspeed David Brandon. Godspeed
|5 years 21 weeks ago||OK...||
You nor I will ever know the motivations of these two guys. But I (perhaps wrongly) filed your post under the "Lloyd left the cupboard bare" excuse/tripe/drivel which absolutely steams me. You can't have it both ways - if Lloyd really left the cupboard bare then our offense shoud suck as badly as our defense right now. RR has stocked the offense with great talent ("his guys", why has he been incapable of doing so on defense and specials? If you actually look at the roster, there was probably more talent left to RR on D than on O, but he hasn't done anything... and I mean ANYTHING positive on defense in 3 years. Why would we imagine he would start now?
|5 years 21 weeks ago||I know we've argued this point...||
... but I assume mean the worst QB selection int he modern era would have otherwise included Ryan Mallet, and you're referring to Justin "All Big 10" Boren. Do you think RR had every heard the phrase "Those who stay will be champions" before his first tour of the Stadium locker room?
|5 years 21 weeks ago||Beautifully Written||
I can't say I 100% agree with you, but your passion and thoughtfulness is appreciated. The theme, though, is indisputeable - RR is a good coach; maybe a great one. But it was a bad fit here. Not because the offense won't work in the Big Twelveleventen (of course it will), but because his personality was a bad fit with the Michigan culture. We can argue whether that culture is counterproductive, or annoying, or arrogant, or whatever, but we can't argue that it exists. Regardless of whether we LIKE the culture, or agree with it, you cannot IGNORE it when hiring the next guy. Which is why Martin gagged on the biggest decision of his tenure, and why the blame for the current state of affairs must rest 90% with him, and only 10% with the coach himself. And it's why Harbaugh is the obvious fit - he gets it.
I've met Harbaugh a couple times at some UM functions, and talked to him. I'm telling anyone who is unsure if he's the right guy or not - he is. He is old enough to understand and embrace the Bo legacy and the significance of Bo v. Woody, and at the same time young enough to understand that college football, as currenty constructed, is can no longer be exclusively about Bo v Woody.
I'm sure Richrod will succeed elsewhere. Just not here. And it's not his fault, but he has to go. With one caveat - if Brandon doesn't land Harbaugh and have the deal done already, he needs to keep Richrod for one more year, make him hire a real DC, fully realizing he will probably never get Harbaugh at that point..
|5 years 25 weeks ago||Love RR or hate him, the whole thing was odd||
Like odd enough fro Jim Rome (again, love him or hate him) to spend a full half hour on it today. Definitely cringworthy, and shows a certain lack of understanding of outsiders perceptions
Not that he HAS to care what others think. If he wins 10 games every year he could play "wind beneath my wings". He's got to realize where he is right now, in terms of public perception, and play it a little safer than this. Wait, isn't "wind beneath my wings" pretty much the same thing as that Josh Whoeveryouare crap?
Not good. Reminds me of John L smacking himself. Bizarre.
|5 years 30 weeks ago||Great, great post.||
|5 years 30 weeks ago||Accomplishment||
If the major accomplshment for this coaching staff is a "Heisman condender" you can keep it. I want 10 wins.
|5 years 30 weeks ago||Big ten vs preseason||
No one disputes the "Richrod is an offensive genius" point or "Denard is really good".
The one point that is consistantly lost in the "save RR" camp is the fact that our performance in conference is dismal. I think it has been established that the offense can score points in the conference. No dispute there.
But the quick-strike offense has defensive implications. 4 play 45 second drive is great - unless you are a defensive tackle and we don't blitz. We get worn down. Our 3 or 4 man rush becomes a 2 or 3 man rush by the 4th quarter because we are gassed. The opposing RB is at 110 yards with 8 minutes to play. Walk-on QB's have an eternity in the pocket. And the result is last Saturday's 3rd down fiesta at the hands of someone named Goiter.
It is a philosophical problem. At the base of it RR thinks he can outscore everybody. And he probably can in nonconference play. Everyone longs for the days of 9-3. Well if we go 4-0 in nonconfernece play, that means you are 5-3 in conference, losing every year to OSU and losing 2 of 3 to MSU, Iowa, and Wisconsin. Does that sound like Michigan Football to you?
My question to all the desciples is simple, and sincere - how much longer do we need to tolerate being ranked 100 or worse in the nation in defense before RR deserves to be fired?
|5 years 30 weeks ago||Oregon? Auburn?||
You mean the one's that have respectable defenses? The one's who shut out the baby seals on their schedule instead of allowing UMass and UConn and Seton Hall and Providence to stay in the game with them?
I don't want to talk to Oregon or Auburn, but I'd love for Brandon to talk to their coaches.
|5 years 30 weeks ago||I have come by my pitchfork begrudgingly.||
I was a believer in the hire. I was willing to wait and be patient while we tolerated the attrition and acquired the right personnel to run this offense. RR has proven that this offense is what everyone hoped it could be – phenomenal, overpowering, once-in-a-generation, breathtaking. The development of the offense is ahead of schedule.
But here is the bottom line:
Who do you want to be, the 1993 Denver Nuggets or the Chicago Bulls? The 1987 Cleveland Indians or the Detroit Tigers? With no hope for the defense going forward, there is no hope for any championships going forward, either.
And finally, if our expectations have sunk to “As long as we get our 15 practices I could give a shit less who or where we play,” then we have become Indiana. How does that feel? Yes a new head coach willbe a very painful experience, but I'd rather start the pain now, because the pain will come. The pain will come.
|5 years 30 weeks ago||15 minutes of fame||
In case anyone cares, that's me holding Coach Moeller's cords in the 1994 videos.
|5 years 30 weeks ago||Details||
Having worked in the 90s with the film and support staff, I can tell you this:
The head coach decides whether or not to have practice based on the on-field conditions, not the safety of the video staff. While I was on staff there we had several high wind outdoors - BUT the video staff would recognize that being up in the lift was unsafe and either not video that day's practice or take it from the filed-level.
I specifically remember one occasion when Coach Moeller yelled out in the middle of an outdoor practice "Where's my video guys?!?" and one of the GAs telling him it was too windy, to which he replied "if I'd have known that I would've had practice in the building". What this illustrates is that the head coach is not thinking of every single detail about the decision to have indoor or outdoor practice and what the implications are.
Ultimately it is the Video Coordinator - the person who that video camera operator reports to - that is responsible for the safety of his staff. He needs to speak up to Kelly on such an important matter as the safety of his guy. If he did, and Kelly insisted on taping the practice, then the responsibility is solely Kelly's
|5 years 30 weeks ago||Detroit media||
You also had to be living in Ann Arbor at the time. I think Moeller would have survived, if not for the emergence of the audio tape from the police car. I don't remember the exact timing, but it was about 3-5 days between the initial reports of him "getting beligerant in a restaurant" and the WJR playing the actual audio of the "do you know who I am" and "you can't do this to ME" drunken rampages. At that point, I don't believe anyone could've saved his job. Now, if he had won the National Championship the year before...
|5 years 30 weeks ago||Loeffler||
And Loeffler didn't play hardly at all, and never was top 3 on the depth chart because he was injured very early in his career.
|5 years 30 weeks ago||Sort of -||
But many of the recruits from '90 - '92 were, in fact, his recruits as much as they were Bo's - and they fit his system since it was mostly the same system. He was one of the main recruiters for high-profile recruits, expecially in Ohio and the Chicago area. And yes Lloyd's guys were mostly Mo's, but the same holds true - Lloyd was a main recruiter for Mo.
The difference is that Rodriguez truly had nothing at all to do with any of his players recruitment, and the offensive system change was so dramatic that you knew you were going to lose guys who didn't fit the system. Now, on the defensive side of the ball, there's no excuse. And there was plenty of talent left over from Lloyd on the defense, but Shaffer and Robinson squandered it.
Not sure I agree with the attition comment. There were a few - Jon Ritchie transferred back "home" to Stanford - he was a hippy to begin with. Eric Boykin was a head case and didn't really fit the system. And there were a few incidental guys with discipline problems, but I wouldn't call it " a lot of attrition" unless I'm forgetting a few of them.
|5 years 30 weeks ago||Grbac - not MO||
For the record that was an audible that Grbac called. We ran the no-huddle and Elvis had great lattitude as to what he could call.
|5 years 30 weeks ago||Insider's perspective||
I was on the support staff for 4 of the years Mo was there (Student Manager), including in every practice, many meetings, and on the field for every game, standing next to him in many cases. Here's my take:
The not so good -
So on balance I believe he was a great coach, a very good adminstrator, and a pretty lousy media/alumni relations guy. I still think he could've had a long successful career and might have won that 1997 championship.
But of course I am biased...