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1 day 6 hours ago #1

Derrick Green is in fact the #1 impact freshman, as predicted by Luginbill (there is no "i" at the end of his name...Luginbill is not Italian)

1 day 10 hours ago Drugs are bad!

You know how they teach you in school that weed doesn't actually make you more creative, it just makes you think you're more creative?

For the first time in my life, I believe that.

1 day 10 hours ago I am 99% certain

That beat was taken from the default Hudl beat options.  Datbull needs to put a call into Ryan Lewis to get some help with his beats.  And while he's doing that, he may as well call someone to do the rap part for him too.

2 days 4 hours ago Then why do they bring the

Then why do they bring the dual threat guys to the Elite 11?  And why is their success rate at picking the best 11 so mediocre?

No, I didn't like Dilfer long before the Shane Morris thing.  And actually, having watched Shane, I think a lot of Dilfer's criticisms were accurate.  But he just seems like a blowhard with a very inconsistent track record who looks at a lot of the wrong things when assessing college QBs.

2 days 4 hours ago Borges

This guy is my favorite interview on the staff.  He's more open and more technical than either Brady or Mattison.  Amazing work Heiko.

PART II, PLEASE.  NOW.  GIMME, GIMME, I NEED, I NEED.

2 days 4 hours ago Middle ground

All too often, rational people get marginalized, while the people in the margins get the headlines.

I was particularly disgusted with the post blaming Borges for the Ohio loss last season and dropping everything on his shoulders.  Did he make some calls that made me say/think WTF??!!  Yes.  But the second-half blocking was terrible, and some of the magic from the first half (Denard's TD run) wasn't exectued nearly as well in the 2nd.

Borges should get criticized.  That's what happens when you're a leader.  But I think a balanced approach to looking at what really went wrong is a lot more informative and valid than just, FIRE AL!  HIS PLAY-CALLING SUX!!!

I am glad Borges is our OC and I think he's a good coach.  I also think he makes bad calls sometimes, and that questioning those calls is valid.

2 days 4 hours ago Great stuff

It will be fun to see how Mattison uses Thomas before and after JMFR returns to the line-up.  Cam Gordon is a guy that can certainly cover the flat and it will be interesting if he is lined-up a little wider.

3 days 7 hours ago SEC

Not the 'Bama one, the Obama one.  SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission) regulations currently say you can't offer equity on crowd-funding sites.  This is one of the many things holding back the crowd-funding movement, which could be vastly more effective if donors (or investors) could acquire an equity stake in the project.

That said, I essentially agree: these guys need serious money from venture capital, angel investor(s), or private equity.  KS is not the right solution, and really shows how little these guys understand the business.

3 days 7 hours ago Dilfer

Elite 11 has a pretty consistent track record of being less than 50% right.  It's a great marketing machine Dilfer has put together, and proof that average NFL QBs can take advantage of getting their face on TV as analysts.

I, however, care only about one thing: how good will the kid be in college?  While Speight's motion might not look as pretty as some other guys', the college game has a long history of producing highly-effective QBs who don't look like pros when they arrive on campus (or ever in many cases).  Just to name a few:

  • Johnny Manziel
  • RG III
  • Cam Newton
  • Tim Tebow
  • Braxton Miller
  • Vince Young

Dilfer is penny-wise and pound foolish, often basing his rankings on silly NFL-level criticisms while ignoring a player's effectiveness.

/rant

Peppers is one of those people who is good at everything.  Crazy athlete, good rapper...he's the kind of person you have to take seriously when he says he wants to win the Heismann as a true freshman.

I think Andrew Brown is a longshot, and then I remember that Brady Hoke and Greg Mattison will be on campus when he arrives, and I believe we are in the mix.  Not so much with Tabor, and that's fine b/c Westphal and Peppers will wrap-up our CBs.

If we get Peppers, McDowell, and one more in the top 100 to go with our current class, we'll be in very, very good shape for this class.  If we get Hand and/or Brown, we are looking at yet another class that has to be considered among our best ever.

3 days 9 hours ago Awesome work

As usual, well done and fun to see.  Obviously, I'm real excited about seeing where these correlations take us in the next few years.

The most interesting data to me is that up to 2006 we really had built a talent advantage over Ohio, but we still could not beat them.  Then things got ugly on the recruiting side for us, and we were in deep trouble.  Now, we are almost perfectly correlated with them, just slightly behind.  The talent gap is narrowing, and it is up to Hoke & Co to get a couple of wins in the series and tilt things in our favor.

3 days 9 hours ago Yeah, no.

I love Denard and he was great to watch, but there is no way in hell I would say he evened things out.  We had two losing seasons, racked-up nearly a decade of consecutive losses to Ohio, and had the worst defenses in Michigan history.

Sorry, but the pain of the RR years > the glory of Denard.

3 days 9 hours ago It's a Longshot, at best.

It's a Longshot, at best.

6 days 6 hours ago Odds on each prospect

Michigan/Elsewhere (IMHO):

 

2. Jabrill Peppers. ATH 95/5

4. Da'Shawn Hand. DE 45/55

55. Alex Bars. OL 0/100 (ND commit)

69. Malik McDowell. DL 70/30

75. Corey Holmes. WR 30/70

85. Artavis Scott. WR 45/55

87. Parker Westphal. CB 85/15

I believe we will get Peppers, Westphal, and McDowell.  I would be happy if we get one of the other guys, ecstatic if it's Hand.

1 week 7 hours ago This is BS

We have MSU and Ohio on the road every even year.  Ohio gets us at home, with MSU/PSU on the road every even year.  Sparty gets UM/Ohio at home every even year, w/PSU on the road.

Ohio definitely got the most balanced schedule of the three.  Here's hoping PSU makes a comeback.  And sweet jeebus, the west is awful.  Seeing it writing makes it even more obvious.

1 week 7 hours ago You're right

But I'm glad we're playing them.  Screw public perception: I want to kick their asses.  Badly. 

1 week 9 hours ago Could he be a sleeper?

It's hard to call a consensus top-100 guy a sleeper, but I really believe Scout is the closest to being right putting him at #39.  And while that number doesn't mean much of anything, I see Thomas as a can't miss star (assuming he stays healthy) with the potential to be one of the best DBs in Michigan history.

I would predict he ends-up somewhere between Marlin Jackson and Charles Woodson in terms of his greatness, and I do believe he will play some offense and/or special teams where he'll be...special.

Probably my favorite recruit from the class.  I really think he and Green will both live-up to their hype.

1 week 2 days ago Wish him the best

Funny story, but probably good for MSU he's not going.

I wish the kid the best, but a college degree would probably do him good.  Or do him well.  Whichever it is, you grammar nazis.

1 week 2 days ago One of the best posts of all

One of the best posts of all time.  Not sure how many people were watching that debate or remember that one-liner, but this is pure platinum.

If I could give you all of my points, I would.

1 week 2 days ago Good argument

The stats are strong in Gallon's favor, and I don't think there is a WR in the B1G that I would trade for him.  But let's be honest: we really only have a 5-game sample on which to base Gallon's talent.  His numbers last year were vastly inflated once DG took over as QB, and I'm not sure opponents ever started to fear Gallon enough to roll coverages his way or gameplan around him.

This year will be his first real test, and we'll see what it produces.  He'll be getting a lot more attention and will finally be in a pro style offense.  I believe he is a very good WR, but I don't know if I'd prefer him to Manningham or Avant.

I predict he has a 70-catch or so season, with 9 or 10 TDs, and between 1,050 and 1,150 receiving yards.  That would be an amazing season, and worthy of the #1 jersey.  It would be a top-10 performance by a Michigan WR.  

He will be our best WR by some distance, but I think his supporting cast will be stronger and he will be targeted by opposing defenses; this will keep him from having a monster sesaon, IMO.  More attention on him will mean more catches for Funchess, Darboh, Dileo, and Chesson.

I predict DG has the monster season, a top-5 in Michigan history for a QB.

1 week 3 days ago Chicken, but smart

They have their midwest footprint without really trying.  They know they can't afford a match-up with another national powerhouse if they want to keep getting to the NCG.

Honestly, it is chicken.  But it's also a compliment--they don't want to have another game they have a good chance of losing every year on their schedule.

Honestly, if our schedule was as tough as theirs, I'd probably want to cut one of the great teams too, and cutting Michigan won't hurt their recruiting or national appeal as much as cutting USC or Stanford.

1 week 3 days ago sad

Always sad to see a family member leave, but hope it's best for him. 

2 weeks 8 hours ago Nebraska

I know their schedule is tougher and their personnel on defense aren't exactly up to the traditional black shirt standards, but I think they are the sleeper team in our division.  NW has a good team but will not be overlooked by anyone this year and will have to find a way to play in the 4th quarter.  MSU just doesn't have the offense to go with what will be--and let's not kid ourselves here--a very, very good defense.

Nebraska's offense will be #1 or #2 in the B1G.  Martinez has improved as a passer and they have three very good WRs and very good RB in Abdullah.  If their defense can just be decent, they are in good shape.

The ONLY thing in Sparty's favor is their schedule.  And while that's a big bonus, I just don't see a team that will be good enough to handle NW, Nebraska, and U-M.

We have the toughest road.  If we win the division, we will have earned it.  IMO, ours is one of the toughest divisions to call in all of CFB.

2 weeks 6 days ago This is why computers

This is why computers will never take over the world: they have no common sense.  Using statistical models from the past five years flies in the face of the obvious.  Mattison has produced the #6 and #19 scoring defenses in the country the past two years, and there is absolutely no way we are any worse than we were in 2012...I mean, didn't 'Bama score half of those points against us?  There are only two positions on defense where you could argue we might be worse: SS and SLB...Everywhere else, we are better.

And DG was the highest-rated passer in the conference last season.  He tore apart the South Carolina defense.  On offense, we are more talented at EVERY position than we were last year.  Yes, we're younger, but every replacement is more talented.

Our youth might cost us a game or two, but we're far more talented than last year's 8-4 team, and have an easier schedule.

7-5 is a worst-case scenario that would have to involve an injury to DG.  With Mattison's defense and the talent we have on offense, Shane Morris could guide this team to seven wins.  Heck, Swieca or Cleary might be able to get seven wins with this team.

FBO is a great site with great ideas, but sometimes stats just don't line-up with reality.

2 weeks 6 days ago Disagree

I think Shane Morris will be a serviceable option at QB.  With DG hurt, we're still a 6-6 or 7-5 team.  With DG healthy, I don't see how we could do any worse than 8-4.

It's a new era in Michigan football, and it's time to raise expectations.  The kids that are starting for us (on both sides of the ball) are pretty darn good at football.

3 weeks 9 hours ago Great prospect

He shows virtually all the tools you look for in an OL prospect.  He would be the most talented lineman in this class, IMO.  That's pretty good competition he's playing in TN too.  Would not be surprised to see him start at RG and then move to LT.  Dude can pull, and is a very, very good drive blocker.

3 weeks 1 day ago What the article (and the

What the article (and the media) ignores is that unless we continue to work on tackling technique (which requires contact) and help kids learn how to tackle properly, we are increasing the risk.

Look, when big, strong, fast men hit each other, there will always be impact.  That impact may seem to lead to injuries.  But that's true in any sport.  There's risk in almost every activity, and, as long as kids know there's some risk, they should be allowed to take it.

But reducing contact in the 15 spring practices isn't going to lengthen the life of these kids significantly, and may actually shorten it.  Kids that don't know how to hit or be hit are much more likely to experience injuries.

EDIT: Actually, if you read far enough, it does say the inexperienced players should be allowed to have more contact.  Any coach knows this won't work; trying to run a practice with only kids that are bad at a technique often turns into a trainwreck.  You need the good players to be demonstrating and practicing so that the inexperienced players can learn from them.

This is all pie-in-the-sky, idealistic thinking.  The bottom line is this: If you aren't comfortable with the risks of football impacts, don't play.  But stop trying to pretend we can have football without the risk.

3 weeks 1 day ago ANSWER!

...since the corner's read is going to drop him into Cover 4—perfect spot to intercept a ball to #2 but who's got #1 now? My guess is he just plays quarters with the linebacker (or in this case the SDE), who has responsibility for the flat. Also the SS is playing quarters so he's got his ears back.

This is simpler than you're making it (but still very difficult).  Just because the corner reads "Quarters" doesn't mean he goes deep.  Once he sees 2 go vertical, he's releasing that responsibility to the safety.  While he will probably continue his backpedal, he's now reading the 1.  When he sees the 1 break for his hitch, he can come down to cover that route and trust that the safety has taken the 2.

The effect of this is that his drop will initially discourage the TE (2) corner route but his eyes are on the 1.

That said, this is a very challenging play for the defense to defend if there is no pressure on the QB and the offense has a good TE(2).  Why?  Because the QB can wait for the CB to come down on the 1, and if the TE (2) is fast and big, he can get deep and wall off that safety to the corner.  Or, if the TE(2) runs great routes (like Gallon) he can double move the safety on a post-corner and get some open space.

This is definitely a route combination that Borges uses and should be effective with Funchess and Butt running that corner route and Gallon underneath on the hitch.

3 weeks 2 days ago Why?

Wouldn't you want someone else to have the mortgage?

3 weeks 3 days ago Ohio #1?

Schlabach's reasoing is simply that he believes Ohio has the best chance of getting to the NCG.  While I disagree and think that's a dumb way to rank teams, if he using the ranking as a projection for who will finish the season #1, then he's not wrong--just silly.

As for his Ohio love?  It's not completely unfounded.  Washington was the only player to beat Lewan for a sack last year.  They return the Heisman Trophy favorite at QB.  We'll see if their defense can hold up, but their schedule is favorable...until they come to AA.

I do believe #9 is just about right for Michigan.  We are still too young along the O-Line and too uncertain at RB to be any higher.  I think we are a fringe top-ten team, and depending on how well our youth shows we could be vying for the NC or losing the Legends division again.

3 weeks 6 days ago I'll never understand

How that 1985 U-M team lost to Iowa.  That team should have had a NC.

3 weeks 6 days ago Excited to have Maurice Ways

It's great this young man just committed to the finest university and college football program in the country.  Do we really need a thread for this?

If he or his family are reading this blog, would they want to see this?  I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do, just saying this is a little sophomoric and not very welcoming to our newest commit.

It's one thing to throw a pun or two into a post...I don't think it needs its own thread.

#getoffmylawn

3 weeks 6 days ago This.

Avant was a fan favorite, but DA was the better player.

3 weeks 6 days ago I wouldn't either.  Let's

I wouldn't either.  Let's just make sure those good things happen against Ohio, and not U-M.

3 weeks 6 days ago What Braylon hate?  It's a

What Braylon hate?  It's a fact that Braylon had a lot of drops in his career, and several of them were key drops.  I think everyone here believes Braylon was a great player, but we can be honest about his shortcomings too.  We're not MSU fans.

3 weeks 6 days ago C'Sonte York

I believe York may be the most underrated prospect in the '13 class.  He is the Jason Avant of the group.  He runs very good routes, gets separation, and catches the ball.  He may never be the #1 WR, but he will be a consistent player who can bail out the QB and get us catches when we need them, IMO.

Jones is an exciting outside threat, but not nearly as polished as York.  I haven't seen much from Dukes other than being able to be decently fast and catch jump balls (which is still awesome) but I don't see either him or Jones display the ability to get separation like York does.

3 weeks 6 days ago I agree with these ideas: I -

I agree with these ideas:

I - Ian Gold or Jarrett Irons

P - Chris Perry

U - Ufer

There might be a better "I" out there, but P and U are perfect and undeniable Michigan greats.

4 weeks 2 hours ago Welcome to the Family

Mo!  So excited to have you in the family.  The real work begins now; NEVER STOP IMPROVING.

GO BLUE!

4 weeks 2 days ago Wait, Stauskas is more

Wait, Stauskas is more important than GRIII?  The rest of the list can certainly be argued, but the sharpshooter is not more important than the high usage swingwman.

4 weeks 3 days ago No one gets a job

Based on GPA.  That doesn't mean much at all.  A Michigan degree says more than a 4.0 at second-tier academic institution.  To put it another way, no one says, "Sure you went to Harvard, but you only had a 2.6 GPA."

4 weeks 3 days ago I can haz Norfleetz!
  • Dennis Norfleet creates yards on every play where he doesn't have a tackler on him before he takes the pitch.  We have to get him involved.
  • The Drake Johnson hype is real -- he is not flashy, but runs the play consistently and gets the yards that are there.  A classic UM back who could squeeze Rawls out of the rotation, IMO.
  • Our secondary is good.  Very little separation for the receivers, and most of the successful passing plays were the result of great throws and/or catches.
  • Our LBs were excellent, and deep.  Bolden, Ringer, Gordon/Beyer all looked real good as back-ups.  The starters were awesome.  This is definitely our best position group.
  • The D-Line looked bigger, stronger, and faster than any line in recent memory.  Again, there is good depth to go along with strong starters.  SDE seems to be the only position that is "meh".
  • The last three bullets add-up to one awesome conlcusion: OUR DEFENSE WILL BE VERY, VERY GOOD.  Mattison has gotten done with sub-par talent the last two seasons.  Now he'll have much better talent at almost every position.  I believe we'll have the best defense in the B1G--besting Sparty and Ohio.
  • The offensive line is coming together.  The talent is obvious--so is the youth.  More than a few blown assignments, but also some crushing blocks agasint very good D-line play.  This unit, IMO, is the most important determiner of our success this fall.  I think RB will work itself out nicely with Fitz and Green added to what we have, and the WRs appear to be at least serviceable.  Add the TEs and I'm not too concerned about pass-catchers...just time for DG to throw and lanes for our RBs.
  • No kicking plays?  I guess with Gibbons/Wile we don't have much to worry about, but I'd like to see our return game improve this year.
4 weeks 3 days ago I agree.  But where do the

I agree.  But where do the minutes come from?  Here is our jammed line-up:

  1. Albrecht/Walton - Switching the PG consistently isn't usually a great idea.  I expect Spike to hold the position because of his experience and ability, and Walton to share time on the floor and give Albrecht the occasional spell.
  2. Stauskas/Irvin/LeVert - We have serious firepower and a lockdown defender...the situation and who's hot will dictate some of the minutes here, but I don't see LeVert consistently playing ahead of Stauskas and Irvin.
  3. GRIII/Irvin/Levert/Stauskas - Our most loaded position.  GRIII is the best of this bunch...unless Irvin is better.  That said, LeVert and Stauskas are great options.
  4. GRIII/Morgan/McGary/Horford - As I said in my own predictions post, I think GRIII will have to play some 4 because our best line-up has him on the floor with Stauskas and Irvin.  That said, the goal is to have two "real" bigs out there.  Morgan or Horford may start here.
  5. McGary/Morgan/Horford - I think Mitch stays at the 5 because his offensive rebounding skills are so valuable.  Unless there are some serious changes to JB's offensive system (unlikely) we'll need McGary under the basket.

I think LeVert could be a very, very good player...but playing him means Stauskas, GRIII, and Irvin have to share minutes at the 2/3 with a fourth player...not sure it's likely unless we need the defense.

4 weeks 3 days ago McGary.  Mitch dominated the
  1. McGary.  Mitch dominated the top competition in the country in the NCAA tournament, and will have a full off-season to refine his game and continue to refine his body.  He may not be our leading scorer, but he'll have the biggest impact.  His offensive rebounding, passing, physicality, and hussle are invaluable assets.
  2. This is a tough one...Stauskas is clearly the best pure shooter on the team, but he'll need to be more consistent.  If it's a 3-pointer, I expect him to get the ball.  Down by 1?  I actually believe it will be Irvin, Walton, or Albrecht, in that order.
  3. This is a great question, and another tough one.  We have an embarrasment of riches at the 1 (and the 3) and I'm as surprised as anyone at how good Albercht looked late in the season.  I know that everyone is like "TREY BURKE TREY BURKE TREY BURKE" when someone says that a freshman PG isn't the best idea, but Trey Burke was the exception that proves the rule.  I think Albrecht has the job at that point, but that by season's end we see them splitting time.
  4. Well, I really believe our best line-up will be small.  Albrecht/Walton, Stauskas, Irvin, GRIII, and McGary will probably be our best five by season's end, and, despite JB's (and GRIII's) preference to have GRIII on the wing, we'll have to have these five guys playing together to give us the best chance to win.  That said, I think Irvin will overtake Stauskas as the starter, and Nik will become our sixth-man extraordinaire.  Stauskas fits that profile perfectly.
  5. VERY tough question.  IMO, could be McGary, GRIII, or Irvin.  I'm going to stick with McGary, as I think our guards/wings will split time and points consistently, but that Mitch will almost always be on the floor (except when in foul trouble).
4 weeks 6 days ago Tough Call

Basketball returns more sure bets than football does, but football has a great team returning and some talented young players.  I'd probably have to go with basketball, with the caveat that come March Madness, anything can happen (see tournament '12 and '13).

Ask me again after the ND game.  If our interior O-line can hold up against ND...well, let's just  say Kate will be dancing, muppetts will be singing, and Ohio will be crying.

5 weeks 10 hours ago That Penn State game

Could be a real challenge.  O'Brien is a decent coach, and PSU has always been tough at their place.  That said, I do believe we win that game.  Here are my way-too-early and over-simplistic odds for each game, with a brief explanation:

  • CMU - 99/1.  I don't think you should ever assume certain victory.  See App State.  That said, we will crush CMU, and if I were going to use a graphical representation of our odds there would be an asymptote at 100%.
  • ND - 60/40.  This is no gimme.  ND returns some serious firepower, is well-coached, and will be hungry to prove that 2012 was no fluke (even though it was).  But they're coming to the Big House, and we really should have handled them last year.  This game will be a very good early test for our interior O-line.
  • Akron Zips - 99.99/1.  See CMU.  The Zips are probably worse than the Chippewas.
  • at UConn - 97/3.  On the road, nothing is certain.  That said, this once proud program no longer appears to be on the upswing and has probably settled into a role as a third tier team in the FBS.
  • Minnesota - 95/5.  The conference opens against an opponent that I expect will be a bigger thorn in our side in the future...when we play in Minnesota.  Last year's game ended as a rout, but was competitive early.  Minny is improving and will cause trouble in the future B1G West.
  • PSU - 67/33.  On the road against a program with nothing to lose.  This is a trap game.  O'Brien can coach, and if Michigan doesn't show-up ready--think late-Carr era inconsistency--then this will be a fight.
  • Indiana - 90/10.  The Hoosiers are definitely on the rise.  They return 19(!) starters. Playing in Michigan stadium, I'm not worried about this game, but our defense better be prepared.  That said, I don't see how they could stop our offense.
  • at MSU - 55/45.  I believe we'll be favored to win this game.  I believe we'll win it.  But MSU returns a suffocating defense and if they can get their passing game on track at all, this away game could be our first loss.
  • Nebraska - 65/35.  Despite winning the Legends division last year, Nebraska has been the forgotten team this off-season.  Martinez has improved as a passer, and Ameer Abdullah has given us more trouble than Burkhead ever did.  With a stable of experienced WRs, the only thing holding this team back is their defense.  Oh, and the fact that we don't lose at home.
  • at NW - 55/45.  We pulled off a miracle to beat these guys at home last year.  The thing is, I think our defense is going to be much tougher for an option team to work against this year.  NW returns eight starters on offense, seven on defense (and a bunch of guys with ample experience), and both their K and P.  Fitzgerald wants this one badly.
  • at Iowa - 70/30.  Returning 14 starters from last year's team might not be an advantage.  But at Iowa?  That game always seems to give us more trouble than it should, and you know the Hawkeyes will bring a nasty O-line and physical running game that will probably test us more than it should.
  • Ohio - 51/49.  In what is undoubtedly our toughest game, we play the Braxton Millers.  Meyer has made a career out of coaching the top running QBs in the country, and this game should live-up to its tradition.  We have the edge because we're at home, but only by the slimmest of margins.

Yes, I believe we have a better chance of winning than losing in all of our games.  But add all of those close calls together and we're likely to stumble a couple of times.  That ND game will be a great barometer for us, and we finish the season with a brutal five game stretch.  I'd put the over/under on losses at two.

5 weeks 1 day ago Good comparison

Good work, Scarn.

Spence accumulated 106 Tkls, 14 TFLs, and 3 sacks in his senior season.  If Ross can produce like that this year, we will be in very good shape on defense.

5 weeks 1 day ago Breaks

The biggest issue I see is getting in and out of his breaks.  He doesn't chop his steps well or show good acceleration out of his cuts.  I actually think he demonstrated a good feel for routes, he just doesn't seem to have the quickness and technique to get into and out of his breaks that quickly.

He fits the Borges mold of big, fast enough, and very good ball skills.  I have serious concerns about his route-running though--if he can't create separation on those breaks he won't catch many passes.

5 weeks 2 days ago With HS kids, you can never be sure

While it's obviously a long shot, getting him here for a visit is always a good thing.  I like his highlights but actually agree that WR may be his best fit--he bounced every single run outside.  We don't need that from our RBs.

As RBs go, I'd prefer Mixon.

5 weeks 2 days ago It seems like Ross makes a

It seems like Ross makes a lot of sense for #11.  That would mean all of our starting LBs were legends...which, yeah.

Gallon is the obvious choice for #21.  That said, I'd really rather he didn't switch his number.  He is #10 to me.

I think Funchess is the right choice for #87.  If he is truly progressing as a blocker than he has a very good chance of being the best receiving TE in Michigan history.  If that makes any sense.

As for #98?  That jersey is sacred, and if it's going to be given, it should be given on the rare occasion that there is a player that deserves it...like a Woodson, Hart, or Howard.  That is a HOF jersey and should only be given to surefire HOFers...which is hard to tell until they're juniors, at which point they may have already established their own legacy.

I'm actually okay with the Legends thing, but only if it's done in the off-season.  Mid-season number switching blows goats.  Have proof.

5 weeks 2 days ago Welcome to Family

Anyone given a chance to play to the University of Michigan is probably pretty darn good.

Blaise looks like a pretty capable athlete, though not as quick or fast as you'd like for a college WR.  Perhaps he can put on some weight and become a U-Back type?  Sure, the odds are against him seeing much of the field during his Michigan career, but he is obviously a willing and aggressive blocker, has very good hands, and is a capable athlete.  I'm glad to have him.

Welcome to the family, Blaise. 

Go Blue!

5 weeks 6 days ago You're right

Allow me to up the ante...I believe he'll have a top 5 passing season.  That equals AT LEAST 2,637 passing yards and 23 passing TDs.  

EDIT: I would actually say top 3 - 2,744 yards and 25 TDs

6 weeks 6 hours ago Thoughts and predictions
  • DG is going to have one of the best seasons in UM history (top 10).  He will get picked in the first round of the 2014 draft.  His throws are on the money, he has a great deep ball, and can fit the ball into small windows.  Oh...and he can run.  He is exactly what the NFL wants right now.
  • Darboh and Chesson are weapons on the outside.  Gallon will be allowed to work the middle and play some slot.  Don't get me wrong--I still expect Gallon to be our leading WR and start on the outside--but those two RS Freshmen look good enough to let Gallon slide inside when go with 3 WR sets.
  • Funchess will catch at least 30 balls and 6 TDs...did you see him work out of the backfield?  Borges is going to move him around and create mismatches.
  • Kalis and Braden will be our starting OGs.  I think Glasgow has a slight edge over Miller at OC.
  • The running game won't get better without better blocking.  None of our RBs looked that great; Drake Johnson looked the most consistent to me.  I'm hoping there were plays where there were actual running lanes, but it sure didn't look like there were many holes.
  • The defense will be better than last year against the pass and the run.  Hollowell appears to be getting a lot of reps and made a GREAT play against Darboh.  Bolden is a back-up LB...and he would have been the best player on any of RR's defenses (except for Graham).
  • The offense needs a RB, WR, and the interior O-line to step-up.  DG will be great.  Gallon and Funchess will be very good.  We just need one or two more passing threats and some great blocking or RB play.
  • The defense looked very, very good.  When they got beat it was on amazing plays in tight windows, and they made some great plays against well-executed offense.
6 weeks 6 hours ago Not worried

He hit Dileo to the left against Minny, hit Gallon to the left against SC in the bowl game, and had plenty of successes on the left side last year...I'm not even a little concerned.  It is natural for a righty to look right more, but DG has a gun that can point both ways.

6 weeks 1 day ago Brave New World

Get ready for a very different-looking UM football team in 2013...We will be back to "Big Brother" and I believe we'll do some serious thumping.  Barring anymore significant injuries, look for a maximum of three losses next season.

Oh, and I think JMFR will be back for Ohio.  Just sayin.

6 weeks 1 day ago One of my favorites

Mixon is an impressive package of speed, agility, and strength.  I have to disagree with the "good but not great" speed assessment--I believe his speed is VERY good, but not quite elite.  We're talking A- speed here.

I have concerns about ball security, but that's just based on looking at this grainy video.  I have no idea how often he fumbled.

Overall, I love his north-south style, strength, speed, and agility.  His toughness and grit look good.  He is probably my favorite RB target.

7 weeks 6 days ago I think there's a real

I think there's a real possibility that JMFR is back for the Ohio game.  Any sooner is a big bonus.

8 weeks 6 days ago Agreed

Not the fastest kid, but man can he change direction.  Great hands, nice routes (for HS), and amazing agility.  

YES PLEASE.

8 weeks 6 days ago DG will be great

I believe that Devin will establish himself as one of the better (top 10) UM QB's of all time in the next two seasons, and it will be that much more amazing because he will do it without any big-time WRs.

He will not be drafted later than round two of the 2015 NFL draft.

9 weeks 6 days ago Justice Hayes redshirted.

Justice Hayes redshirted. Giovanni Bernard redshirted. Kenjon Barner redshirted. Jonathan Franklin redshirted.

Good RBs redshirt all the time.

10 weeks 3 days ago I think you may be

I think you may be discounting the level of competition a bit too much.  Smith is a very good player who could be successful at Michigan, but Green is an elite prospect who put up huge numbers against very, very good defenses.  Green is faster and stronger.

I agree with Magnus that Smith's best asset is his mentality; I also believe this is the most important quality for a football player.  But Green also has a great mentality.

As far as vision goes, HS and D1 are very, very different games, and we'll have to wait and see who is better at finding the hole.  I'm not sure Smith is better in that department.

10 weeks 4 days ago Actually, he does throw a few

Actually, he does throw a few darts at the end of the highlights.  Could it be that maybe throwing touch passes is a more effective way to move the ball in HS?

12 weeks 5 hours ago Looks good

Nice touch and very good accuracy. Arm strength is still a question mark. But those receivers suck.

12 weeks 5 hours ago 5.8 on Rivals

Low four star. Should be 4-star across the board.

12 weeks 2 days ago Your numbers are off; see my

Your numbers are off; see my post below.  That said, I think you're close.  I'd guess about 25 passing TDs, 10 rushing TDs, 3,000 passing yards, 300 rushing yards, and 8 INTs.

12 weeks 2 days ago Ceiling vs Prediction

Some people are making realistic predictions, some people are actually talking about a true ceiling.

As a realistic prediction, I think Devin is second team All-B1G behind Miller.  Taylor Martinez is his only competition, and I believe DG is the better player, and will prove that will a full off-season.  Also, I think Michigan will have a better record, and that will dampen the Martinez hype.

But a ceiling?  Well, he has the talent to be a Heisman winner, so I guess have to call that his ceiling.  I don't believe that will happen, but that's what the word means.  And since I NEVER say anything without evidence...

  • DG's 2012 passer rating was 161.66.  That would have made him the 8th highest QB in the NCAA, and is behind only six teams: 'Bama, Georgia, SJSU, Clemson, and WVU...and ahead of Baylor and Oregon, and far ahead of Johnny Manziel's 155.32.
  • His 2.2 passing TDs per game extrapolates to 28.6 for the season.  That would have made him #19 in passing TDs in 2012.
  • His Yards/Att was 9.7 (!!!) which would have made him #2, behind only Aaron Murray.
  • He would have thrown for 3,169.4 yards (extrapolation), making him #29 in the country
  • 18.2 rushing TDs would have made him #5 on that list for QBs

He accomplished all that without practicing at QB in the off-season, without a full playback, in an offense that had been designed around a running QB, with an awful interior O-line and almost no threat of a running game.  And he did in five games that featured teams ranked 23, 29, 33, 34, and 75 (Iowa-DERP!) in opposing passer rating--not the pushovers some people suggest.

So it's clear he has the talent to be a Heisman contender--especially in 2014--but my prediction for 2013 is second team All-B1G, and I believe he will be drafted in the 2nd round.

12 weeks 2 days ago Disagree

Saban is now averaging 25 commits per class.  I believe we should expect attrition at a rate of 5 players per year at Michigan, which is pretty low for a top level program.  Transfers, academics, and kids doing stupid stuff should open up about 5 spots per year, making our average about 22.

I would expect that difference to drop a little.

12 weeks 2 days ago Welcome to the family

We are fortunate to have you.
Please help make Team 135 even more special.

GO BLUE!

12 weeks 3 days ago Disagree

While we compete in some head-to-head battles, recruits often have us in their top 5 and Ohio nowhere, and vice versa.  A loss to Urban this year certainly does not spell doom for our recruiting.  I seriously doubt it has much impact at all, especially if we only lose two or three games total.

12 weeks 3 days ago You are right

I try to lose my homerism, but don't always succeed.

"Worst case scenario" was the wrong language.  I would say, however, that based on his talent and background, I would expect Poggi to be as good as or better than RVB.

12 weeks 3 days ago 2.  Any injury--real or

2.  Any injury--real or imagined--can get you kicked off the team if you aren't very good.

12 weeks 5 days ago Not a lateral move

We'll find out when this is all said and done that there is more to it than just heading to Oklahoma for the same job.  He's been promised something else.  You don't leave a rising program that is gaining national recognition and has a chance to start competing for national titles without some other reason...Oklahoma is a good program, but an inferior school and is currently stuck in an unimportant conference.

Somehow--and I don't know how yet--this move benefits Montgomery beyond putting a few more bucks in his pocket.

13 weeks 5 hours ago I'm pretty sure that's an

I'm pretty sure that's an argument against using a 6'6" center.  Mealer was not great, and I'm just being nice.

13 weeks 7 hours ago You've been on this board for

You've been on this board for 4+ years and never heard of a kid turn down an invitation?  It happens all the time.  Top level recruits get invited to dozens of camps, and they turn down invites regularly.  Shane was an exception; he went to more camps than most do.

13 weeks 11 hours ago Show cause

Has everyone here forgotten that Tressel is subject to the show cause penalty?  Tressel has another couple of years that he is basically on lock-down by the NCAA, and if STAEE hired him they would bring his sanctions with him.

Does Dantonio hate Michigan enough to bring in Tressel in the hopes that he can beat Michigan again?  Maybe, but he'd be bringing sanctions, bad press, and would immediately become the assistant coach in everything but name.

This is not happening.

13 weeks 20 hours ago Happy but...

If this kid was really that good on offense do you think they would have moved him?
Yes, I think he's a better fit on offense and I'm glad he's back there, but I'm not sure he will make much of an impact.

13 weeks 2 days ago Feel free

Go ahead and use my data freely; I don't have and don't want a website of my own.

13 weeks 2 days ago Part II

I will have the Michigan comparisons either later this week or early next week.  While Hoke hasn't recruited to Saban's level, the numbers are pretty strong, and there are some favorable comparisons.

I'm not betting much on year three for Hoke; but I think we'll have one of the top 10 rosters in the country starting in 2015.

13 weeks 2 days ago Classic OT

13 weeks 3 days ago I'm hoping

For the first time ever, I'm hoping Gene Smith is right.

East/West is probably the endgame (the Eye was always little more than a dream) and makes for competitive balance and, I believe, gives us an advantage in recruiting the OH-PA-DC areas that will benefit our program.

We are losing our ND annual rivalry, and I'm happy to see the Staee rivalry switch to being a once-every-three-years-or-so thing.  NO PROTECTED CROSSOVERS, PLEASE.

13 weeks 5 days ago How I feel about this:

13 weeks 5 days ago Love it

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TLeOSOe4GmQ&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DTLeO...

13 weeks 6 days ago Does anyone know

How many guys have done this?

  • Heisman
  • College National Championship
  • NFL MVP (or Defensive MVP)
  • Super Bowl Champ

Can't be a big number...he will, of course, add NFL HOF to that list before too long.  My guess is that less than 10 guys have pulled this off.

EDIT: Did a quick look...is Woodson the only guy to pull this off?  He might be...

13 weeks 6 days ago Lions?

Woodson wants to play for a contender.  He's not looking for the biggest paycheck at this point in his career.  The Lions have almost no chance of signing him.

That said, I hope they figure out a way to snake oil him!

13 weeks 6 days ago Happy to be the jerk

This is certainly OT, and certainly should NOT be filed under "Football"

13 weeks 6 days ago Some people like to pretend

Some people like to pretend we don't want him when we don't have him. We want him. I do think we have offers out to better DEs, but he's a talent and we want him.

I'm not sure what you're expecting to hear. You're an ohio fan so you obviously know all about delusional fans and pretending to win recruiting battles. And also pretending to win games with intelligible players and cheating coaches.

Sorry. I tried to stop but couldn't.

14 weeks 2 hours ago NO!

You know all those silly websites titled "Fire[InsertCoachName].com"?

Can we have this one:

www.KeepRoushar.com

With this picture:

14 weeks 6 hours ago ACE

I will blame you if we don't have the same success this year in February.  I will also blame you if any of our guys decommit.

A true "Recruiting Ninja" would have no trouble with these requests.  Wait a minute, a true recruiting ninja would be completely invisible...are you the kind of "ninja" that just makes karate sounds when slide across the floor in your socks?

14 weeks 11 hours ago Never heard of that school.

Never heard of that school.

14 weeks 1 day ago There is a reason

We are more than 15,000 votes behind.

14 weeks 2 days ago Could not decide

Whether to up vote or down vote...gave it a pos when you snuck in the news about the kid. Congrats!

14 weeks 2 days ago WOW

This guy is a very, very good prospect.  He is enormous, yet moves like a DE.  He needs to add some strength and play lower, as well as improve working with his hands, but as a prospect, WOW.  I think he'll end-up a 5.9 or better on Rivals (Top 150).  He's smart, fast, strong, and tackles well.  He has a great motor.  He reminds me a bit of Pee Wee...just  quicker, a little less chubby and not as strong.

Welcome to the family Bryan!  GO BLUE!

14 weeks 2 days ago Not that simple

We are now talking about high school juniors.  Potentially 16-year-old kids, that may love the attention and everything that goes with it, but may not understand what it means or how it impacts the people around them.

Coach Hoke made a great point about the unintended consequences, pointing out that this means kids can be getting visits at their school from recruiters on a regular basis.  That could very well interrupt their academics, and would certainly be a strain on coaches and educators that have to set-up the meetings, and often supervise them.  HS coaches that are teaching classes would have a full/part time job as recruiting coordinators...yikes.

That said, the current rules don't make a lot of sense, and aren't enforceable.  They need to find some rules that restrict the contact recruiters can make (even if it's for certain time periods), and, I believe, add an early signing period.

14 weeks 3 days ago It's obviously WAY too early

It's obviously WAY too early, but I really don't think 12 is too far off.  We have a lot of unknowns this season, particularly along the O-line.  If the younger guys are as good as advertised, then we could easily be in the 10-11 win category.  If the O-line is faulty...we could easily find ourselves with a 9 win season.  If DG gets injured...well, let's just say 8 wins isn't out of the question.

The flip side is that if everything goes right and Kalis, Bryant, and Miller (or whoever) is as good as advertised and we get some breaks, then we are definitely BCS contenders, with the NCG as a outlying possibility.

14 weeks 3 days ago Worth one win

Do you think Derrick Green and Taylor Lewan have enough talent to get us one more win?

I do.  And if you do, than a jump from 23 to 12 is about right.  If we're a 2-loss team instead of a 3-loss team, that equates to an 11-spot jump in the polls.

23 to 12 really isn't a big change.

14 weeks 6 days ago Sneaking in

The Reon Dawson comment at the end of the OP, is, IMO, spot on.  The kid is a Wolverine now, and we should support him.

I like that we have two good options, though neither are currently great.  McGary has lots to learn still, but his energy and passion make things happen.  Horford seems more than adequate.  I guess I'd like to see Horford starting, but McGary playing the lion's share of the game (25-30 min).  This gives McGary time to watch the game and get a feel for what he needs to do, and, hopefully, the coaches are explaining what he needs to focus on when he gets in the game.

That said, what is this post doing in the football thread?

15 weeks 6 hours ago What happened

I believe, based on the tweet below, that Cornwell had the opportunity to commit but didn't take it.  Speight jumped on it, and Cornwell lost his spot.  This is pure speculation, but I think Cornwell loved Michigan, and regrets wanting to take more time in the recruiting process (which I don't blame him for) to see what else was out there.

 

The BEST Lesson I can learn from this is, don't get caught up in the recruiting, find a coach and program you love and commit to them

— DC5 (@DavidCornwell5) February 6, 2013

15 weeks 6 hours ago Disagree

Getting bigger doesn't make you a SDE.  Taco's quickness and pass rush ability will keep him at WDE, IMO.

There's nothing that says you can't be big and play WDE.  It's just rare to find big, quicky players.  Taco is both, and his weight is deceiving because he's so tall.

I would be surprised if he moved to SDE at any point in his career.

15 weeks 10 hours ago Not worried

Dawson is still in Ohio talking to Ohio people.  His mind will change once he's assimilated into the Michigan family.  I predict he's referring to tsio as Ohio the first time he's interviewed as a Michigan player.

15 weeks 10 hours ago Progress

I think we'll see a big step forward for our offense this year.  While some may argue with me,  I believe our offense was much better with DG passing and Denard as a RB.  If we had a whole off-season to work on those concepts, for DG to play QB, and a decent interior O-line...the results could be very, very good.

I really believe the 2013 season hinges on two factors:

  1. Can the O-line open some holes for the running game?  The reason Denard was the only player able to consistently get yards last year is because God-given talent was the only way to get loose with last year's O-line.  If the 2013 version can do well enough to make our running game a consistent threat, I believe DG, Gallon, Dileo, Funchess, and some of the younger guys (Darboh, Chesson, Jones, York, Dukes, Butt) will help our passing game explode.
  2. Will a consistent pass-rushing threat emerge?  There is no doubt in my mind that Michigan will once again field a top-ten defense in 2013.  I believe it will actually be noticeably better than the very good 2012 version.  But who will be our pass-rusher?  That is the one missing piece to the puzzle at this point.  I believe Ojemudia will win the WDE spot on passing downs, and if he can get 8+ sacks, I think that gives us an extra win or two.

DG has proven he's a pretty darn good passer, and he's not losing any significant production at the receiver position.  I firmly believe that replacing Roy Roundtree is a much easier task then the two above.

Using Pistol and other schemes designed to get more blockers to the play, or open up more space in which to run, seems like a great idea to help move the football.  But the most important factor will always be execution, not scheme. 

15 weeks 1 day ago HAHAHA

The best part is the capitalized "DOES" and the lowercase "nt" with the apostrophe in the wrong spot.  This is pure gold.

15 weeks 1 day ago Next year

This is an amazing class, and undoubtedly one of the best in school history.  Yes, Ohio seems to have a better collection of talent, but we'll see if that translates to wins.

Looking forward to 2014, if Speight is right and they only take 16, we'll have a tough time scoring a top ten class again.  We better get damn good Michigan Men to fill those spots!

15 weeks 1 day ago Welcome Wilton!

I loved this kid's tape.  Yes, I think Cornwell looks like an almost ideal QB, but that's just from watching some highlights and reading Magnus' write-up.  Speight has the tools you want: great accuracy and touch, solid arm strength, decent athleticism, good pocket awareness, throws a great deep ball, and throws well on the run.  He also has room to grow.

For those of you questioning his arm strength, I'm wondering if you watched the entire reel.  At 4:51, 5:41, 5:53, 6:05 he makes some pretty hard throws.  It's not a frozen rope, but he has plenty of arm strength.

Honestly, he does remind me of Navarre in a lot of ways.  He looks more polished and less clumsy, but the slight hitch in the throwing motion and his height do remind me of Big John.

FWIW, I believe college QBs need accuracy and touch more than arm strength.  I'm very excited about this kid.

Welcome to the family, Wilton Speight.

GO BLUE

15 weeks 2 days ago Oldie but a goodie

15 weeks 2 days ago The new USC facility

Kiffin's new digs are football-specific and far more impressive.

15 weeks 2 days ago You can't argue with Meyer's

You can't argue with Meyer's ability to recruit; he's darn good at it, and their class probably deserves to be ranked higher than ours.  It will be interesting to see if he can parlay that recruiting success into national championships at Ohio.

THE GAME is back to being one of the biggest events in college football.  I can't wait.

15 weeks 3 days ago It's entirely possible

Someone jacked this kid's twitter account. Here's his latest post:

Khalil Is gay

— khaliel rodgers (@K_rodgers55) February 4, 2013

15 weeks 3 days ago FWIW

I'm not sure all the kids we currently have as DBs will end-up playing DB.  Lewis and Stribling are both athletes that have gotten it done at WR, and Ross and Thomas were terrors as RBs.

Let's also remember that Jahmere is rated a 5.7 on Rivals, which is close to a four-star.  And he has offers from Auburn, Tennessee, Ole Miss, and Miss State, among others...not too shabby.

This kis is an athlete that might be able to contribute in roles other than DB.  Obviously, we aren't sure he is a commit, but just thought I would share:

 

15 weeks 3 days ago Tyroil Smoochie-Wallace

Dude is a bigtime playmaker.

15 weeks 3 days ago Nice post Magnus

I'm excited to see who we might offer on Wednesday.  It seems like getting your QB is the unofficial start of recruiting season for the next year.  Obviously, we've been recruiting already and have Ferns committed, but getting the QB and past signing day seems to really add juice to the process.  I expect a few "Hello" posts this month.

I do wonder if Bellomy is a viable long-term option.  I'm not sure what happened to him this year or what his "issue" was, but I feel like QB depth is a real concern at this point, and I wouldn't be disappointed if our signing day surprise this year was a QB.  I'm very excited about Shane, but I do think he'll need some time to develop, and I'm not sure Bellomy is a reliable back-up.  Of course, it's highly doubtful we sign a second QB this year, but it wouldn't bother me at all.

From everything I've looked at and read, Cornwell seems to be the best fit.  Missing a season of football would be a very bad thing, IMO, as there is no substitute for game experience.  That said, I hope he's not playing until the 2015 season at the earliest, and that's a long way away.

15 weeks 3 days ago I hope

We can all agree to leave bickering about the WSJ and NYT on the FNC and MSNBC message boards from now on.

The article is just another piece of evidence in what is sure to be a long and heated debate. I, for one, would let my kids play football or any other mainstream sport--including rugby, which is far more dangerous--knowing the risks. I think we are missing the point of life if we keep ourselves from doing anything risky. Climbing, skydiving, snowmobiling, etc are all more dangerous than football, and I don't think they should be off limits either. I understand and support those who don't want their kids to play football, just don't take it away from the rest of us.

15 weeks 6 days ago Steak

Ribeye from taste of texas.

16 weeks 1 day ago I prefer the eye

But let's be realistic, the "eye" or inner/outer probably isn't happening.

If you look at the situation purely from the standpoint of what benefits Michigan the most, these divisions look pretty good.  We'd love to have Northwestern on our schedule to help with our Illinois pipeline, but we get more value out of recruiting the east, IMO.

Adding Rutgers and Maryland gives us a footprint on the east coast without sacrificing our midwestern heritage.  Are they the best, most tradition-laden opponents?  Of course not.  But they're going to screw-up conference tradition no matter which division they're in.

I have enjoyed our match-ups with Penn State more than Iowa, Minnesota, or Illinois.  They're a real team with real credentials and a strong history.  We should embrace that, and start to get more of their recruits while we're at it--there are some darn good players in PA.

And on the money side, adding the east coast pocket books can't hurt.  The Michigan brand would now be in the New York and DC markets; that is money in the bank for the conference and for Michigan.

The BIG downside, IMO, is losing the Chicago market, but we'll still be there for crossover games.

I am AGAINST protected crossovers, and the more I think about it, the less I care about having Sparty in our division.  Ohio is the real rival, and we should be building a rivalry with Penn State.  The MSU-Michigan game will never be a big deal outside of Michigan; battles with Ohio and Penn State have national appeal because each game features huge fan bases with strong tradition and historical success.

So yeah, I want the eye.  But I'd be happy with W/E, and I really don't care if we get Purdue or MSU...I guess I'd prefer Sparty for the fun of beating little brother, but I would also delight in seeing all of the energy sucked out of Dantonio if he lost the only game on his schedule he cares about.

As for competitive balance--as many have noted--that's likely to play itself out.  While the Michigan, Ohio, Penn State, and Nebraska names are the strongest and ideally are split 2/2, that probably means Ohio and Michigan are split as well.  So l'd rather embrace the challenge and opportunity created by the W/E alignment.

Quite frankly, the West division should be pissed...they lose big in this scenario, IMO.

16 weeks 1 day ago False

Philly is the center?  Do you own a map?  The center would be closer to Pittsburgh.  

With Maryland, Rutgers, Penn State in the "East-East", and Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, and MSU (I hope)/Purdue (PLEASE GOD NO!) in the "West-East".  Also, this means our fight song is still valid: "The Champions of the West-East!" (The "East" is silent).

While I ceratinly agree that tradition gets slapped in the face here, that's going to happen no matter what we do.  The old conference is long gone, and quite frankly we should be embracing new traditions that will benefit our program.  We get a lot more elite talent out of the east than we do out of Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin, or Iowa.

Is it perfect?  Hell no.  Is it far better than what we have now?  Hell yes.

That said...what happens when we add two teams from the Southeast?  

16 weeks 1 day ago I appreciate the idea.

I appreciate the idea.  Actually, it's not hard to find the data for the guys who leave.  But I'm not trying to measure our ability to evaluate talent, I'm trying to examine our ability to maximize the talent we bring in.  Part of that process is keeping your talent.

Michigan does not bring in many JUCOs or transfers, so when we see a guy leave, he's not often replaced by a similarly-talented player.  So guys we lose that become contributors elsewhere are still busts for us, even if they end-up being good elsewhere.

The Ryan Mallets and Justin Borens of the world are great players, but that doesn't help us win games.

16 weeks 2 days ago Can we recruit in the south?

If we can start getting players like this from the south, we will be competing for national championships on a regular basis.

16 weeks 2 days ago I don't disagree with any of

I don't disagree with any of your criticisms about the structure of the data.  In fact, I looked at a four-tiered rating, but found that there were very few "middle" players (2's and 3's), and the ratings got even more muddled.

I also agree that I may have been a bit harsh on Campbell.  He may very well be a 2.  But remember that he only had 14 tackels in 2011, and wasn't on the field much.  As for Brown, Cissoko, and Borern--none of those guys made enough of an impact to earn a 2, IMO.  Cissoko played a lot but was terrible; Brown was inconsistent at best, and Boren left before he was really good.  You really earn a 2 by postiviely contributing to our win-loss record; I'm not sure any of those guys achieved that.

And Campbell's problem wasn't development or coaching, he was fat and lazy.  And Brown just wasn't good enough.  I see your argument, I just agree to disagree.

EDIT: Bumped Campbell to a "2".  

16 weeks 2 days ago I wish Stinson the best.  I

I wish Stinson the best.  I also believe that if he deserves an offer, he'll get one.  I trust the coaches.

16 weeks 2 days ago Talent is not the question

Talent is not the question here.  The issue is: how did these players impact the game?  Without a doubt, of the players you mention, Mouton had a greater impact on Michigan's record than the other guys.

You can make all sorts of points about circumstances, coaching, and the supporting cast, but there is no doubt--based on the stats and the eye test--that Mouton had a greater impact on our record than those other guys.

I know not everyone liked Mouton, but he was 2nd team All-B1G, put up amazing numbers, and sometimes seemed to be the only one playing defense during the GERG era.

16 weeks 2 days ago My definition of bust is

My definition of bust is simply a player that did not contribute adequately to the program.  It has nothing to do with talent.

When looking at the likelihood of a highly-ranked player being successful, you have to factor in transfers and injuries.

16 weeks 3 days ago Yes, and it's not even close.

Yes, and it's not even close.  Mouton's stats and honors:

124 solo; 140 ast; 264 tot; 18 tfl; 3.0 sk; 4 INT; 9 PD; 2 FF.  Jonas Mouton almost single-handedlly defended our opponents in 2010, racking-up 117 tackles with 8.5 for loss, 2.0 sacks, and two picks.  He made 13 tackles and a game-changing INT against Notre Dame, giving us a chance in another miracle win over the Irish.  He was one of 51 players on the Butkus watch list.  He led the conference in tackles, and was second team all-B1G.  Anyone who watched games in 2010 knows that without him, we have another losing season.  He had 5 double-digit tackle games in 2010, and 9 in his career.

Burgess' stats and honors:

80 solo; 49 ast; 129 tot; 10.5 tfl; 3.0 sk; 2 INT; 12 PD; 2 FF.  Burgess had double-digit tackles in only two games in his career, both in 2005.  He was an honorable mention All-B1G in 2005 and 2006, but never really an impact player.  His best season was his 81 tackle junior campaign.

You could argue that Burgess was an impact player; I would respectfully disagree.  But I don't see how anyone can argue that Mouton wasn't an impact player.  He was one of the best defenders in the conference and ranked 17th nationally in tackles his senior year.

16 weeks 3 days ago MORE DATA!

In an effort to give a little life to this data, I have attempted to score each of the above prospects into three highly subjective categories:

  1. Bust.  Did not meet expectations or produce (for whatever reason).
  2. Role Player.  Decent career; some issue kept him from being great.
  3. Impact Player.  Consistent game-changing plays.

For the young guys who may not have had time to fall into a category, we'll just remove them from the data.

Here goes:

BUSTS:

  • Ryan Mallett (not his fault)
  • Kevin Grady
  • Will Campbell (one above average season is below expectations)
  • Justin Turner
  • Marques Slocum
  • Carlos Brown
  • Boubacar Cissoko
  • Antonio Bass
  • Dann O'Neill
  • Justin Boren
  • Clayton Richard
  • Alex Mitchell
  • Cory Zirbel
  • Jim Presley
  • Adam Patterson
  • Toney Clemons
  • Matt Gutierrez
  • Ryan Mundy
  • Brett Gallimore
  • James McKinney
  • Doug Dutch
  • Cullen Christian

Total: 22

ROLE PLAYERS:

  • Prescott Burgess
  • Tim Jamison
  • Daryl Stonum
  • Greg Mathews
  • Terrance Taylor

Total: 5

IMPACT PLAYERS:

  • Chad Henne
  • LaMarr Woodley
  • Brandon Graham
  • Donovan Warren
  • Stephen Schilling
  • Gabe Watson
  • Shawn Crable
  • Jonas Mouton
  • Mario Manningham

Total: 9

So of the 36 players examined using my completely BS opinion, I have 22 (61%) busts, 5 (14%) role players, and 9 (25%) impact players.  So about 1 in 4 of these players were very good or great, about 2 in 5 were contributors, and the other three either got injured, transferred, or just weren't very good at football in college.

Patterns worth noting:

  • The bottom seven ranked players were all busts.
  • Of the ten highest-ranked players, three were busts, one was a role player, and the other six were impact players
  • The eight unranked players (not enough data yet) are Derrick Green, Ondre Pipkins, Kyle Kalis, Henry Poggi, Erik Magnuson, Shane Morris, Patrick Kugler, and Justice Hayes.
  • Three of those unranked players (Green, Pipkins, and Kalis) would have been in the top ten.
16 weeks 3 days ago Most fans and media lauded

Most fans and media lauded Dick Vermeil for his public displays of emotion, and by all accounts his players liked it. I think this is in that category.

Playing a Josh Groban song at a banquet seems quite different to me. Just sayin.

16 weeks 4 days ago Wrong

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but you're just flat out wrong about his lower body.  He has huge, powerful legs.  Whether or not he goes down "too often" on first contact is a matter of opinion, I guess, but he breaks a lot of tackles and certainly racks-up YAC (yards after contact).

Does he have work to do?  Yes.  Most notably, he needs to run a bit lower (which will help with his balance too).  Is he probably the most talented back we have on our roster?  Yes, and probably by a healthy margin.

16 weeks 4 days ago He reminds me of Barry

He reminds me of Barry Sanders and Eric Dickerson.

16 weeks 4 days ago Matt Gutierrez

Gutierrez is #1 for me; he seemed like he was destined for greatness.

Others (in order of disappointment):

  • McGuffie
  • Grady
  • Bass
  • BWC
  • Fargas
16 weeks 5 days ago Up vote for Lebowski

Up vote for Lebowski reference

17 weeks 19 hours ago What makes it even funnier is

Tom Brady got fined $10,000 for his slide that could've hurt Ed Reed...Gore paid more for the socks.
That said, I actually agree with the fine. Just wear the damn uniform.

17 weeks 1 day ago Stats

Numbers aren't the only consideration.  I'm not saying London Fletcher doesn't deserve HOF consideration, but he has not impacted the game the same way Ray Lewis has.  

17 weeks 1 day ago The difference is that

The difference is that baseball's potential HOF players were cheating at the game.

If Ray Lewis were caught cheating in football, I would not support him as a Hall-of-Famer.

17 weeks 1 day ago Nope

No, that's not my argument.  My argument is that a player's misdeeds that are unrelated to his football career should not keep him out of the HOF.  If Michael Vick had come back to the NFL, played at or near MVP level for 10 years and won three superbowls, he would deserve consideration for the Hall.

FACT: Ray Lewis is a HOF football player, and his football career is deserving of HOF recognition.

FACT: Ray Lewis has done some terrible things in his life.

I'm not saying Ray Lewis should get a free pass.  I'm not saying the guy is innocent or that he deserves your respect or admiration.  I'm not saying I would trust him, or that I want him as my friend.  I'm saying he's a Hall of Fame football player, and that's what the Hall of Fame is all about.  It's not an award for off-the-field character, nor should it be.  And if you look at some of the other guys that have gotten into the HOF, they are not exactly model citizens.

17 weeks 1 day ago Defensive talent

This would seem to add credence to the theory that ratings matter much more on defense than they do on offense.  Both defenses are loaded with top tier players, and there is only one two star (Paul Kruger) and he was an athlete who played QB in high school.

Data:

  • 12 of the 21 rankable defensive starters either had four or five stars
  • 6 of the 19 rankable offensive starters either had four or five stars--the same number of rankable offensive starters were two stars or unranked
  • Only 3 defensive starters were two stars or unranked

Recruiting matters, especially on defense.

17 weeks 1 day ago No, but it doesn't have to

Obviously good-doing doesn't erase or undo the past, but Ray Lewis--by all appearances--has reformed himself and become a great team player, community member, and maybe even a role model.

The HOF is not (nor should it be) a referendum on a man's past.  If Ray Lewis had committed murder on the football field, done steroids, or some other "evil" that gave him an advantage or compromised the integrity of the game, I'd say his admission to the HOF might be questionable.  But off-the-field issues from more than a decade-and-a-half ago shouldn't keep someone out of the Hall, even if he did some really bad stuff.

But no matter what we think, he will be inducted, and almost certainly as a first ballot member.  He's one of the best LBs of all-time.

18 weeks 6 hours ago Almost looks like a Te'o.

Almost looks like a Te'o.

18 weeks 1 day ago I'm not saying I want

I'm not saying I want jackasses in the locker room.  I'm just saying that we're going to need some of those elite-talent skill players if we're going to be competing for the National Championship.

Just because a kid likes flashy football doesn't mean he's a bad person, and doesn't mean he can't grow out of it.  We need a few of these boys to see the light and come to Michigan, and it appears the staff is having a hard time convincing them.

I think Braylon Edwards fits this description.  As does Desmond Howard, and maybe even Charles Woodson.  Carr was able to recruit some of these uber-athletes in his day, and Hoke needs to find a way to relate to them.

18 weeks 1 day ago The best part of that story

The best part of that story is that the kid transferred to Baylor.

18 weeks 1 day ago Hoke's weakness?

It's clear that Michigan can recruit elite talent.  The O-line and defense have been stocked full of highly-rated players, with solid pick-ups at TE, and one potentially great RB seems poised to join the 2013 class.

That said, it may be that Hoke and company have a hard time relating to the "flashy" players on a very basic level.  This is just a theory, mind you, and there isn't enough evidence at this point to confirm it.

But look at the players that we've missed out on that seemed pretty high on Michigan: Isaac, Treadwell, McQuay, virtually every elite WR recruit.  This seems to point to a weakness for Hoke & Friends--can they relate to the guys that love the spotlight, the glamour, and the "flashiness" of college football?

Clearly, they've pulled-in some big time players who love attention.  But when it comes to Reggie Bush type players, the staff doesn't seem to do as well reeling them in.  I believe this may be just a fact we have to get comfortable with: Hoke isn't as good relating to kids that are the ultra-athletic slashers because their personalities don't seem to match.  This is NOT a knock on those kids, it's just an observation.

But Ty Issac said he committed to USC because "it's tailback U" and Treadwell seemd to cool on Michigan due to a lack of attention.  Selling discipline, tradition, and toughness simply might not play as well with guys whose game is more about skill and talent.

That said, I hope I'm wrong, and that we land an elite WR talent ASAP.

18 weeks 2 days ago Amazing post

I wish it gave me more hope...

That said, you rightly pointed out that rankings do matter, and Kalis and Mags are well ahead of most of the guys we recruited during the examined period.  I expect that we'll have more O-line issues next year, but that it will still be better than the '12 version.  The derpity-derp plays of RS Freshies and Sophs will replace the "I just can't block!" screw-ups.

This post is the reason I believe we're most likely a 3-loss team 2013, with 2 losses being the next most likely, 4 and 1 loss seasons being unlikely, and 5-loss an even more extreme outlier than an undefeated season.

18 weeks 2 days ago Welcome Reon!

Best wishes to you, and welcome to the Blue.  See you at The Big House.

And I don't know what's not to like about this kid.  He's big, fast, and looks like he's got pretty good feet and hips.  He may not be a finished product yet, but how many freshmen are?

We're blessed to have him.  GO BLUE!

18 weeks 3 days ago No way to dress this up

Kiffin is a win-at-all-costs coach who doesn't win very much.  He has one of the most talented rosters in all of college football--even with the sanctions--and still underachieves.  He'll be out next year if things don't improve, IMO.

This move is particularly douchey, and I'm gald the HS coach has responded.  I wish more coaches would do that.

But this does beg the question: How does USC keep getting top-tier talent?

  • Tradition.  They have one of the most storied programs in all of college football, and recent success matches their amazing history.
  • Location.  Not only are they close to some of the best football talent in the country in California, they are in L.A., an attractive city for college kids (and most people) with lots of fun stuff to do on recruiting trips.
  • FACILITIES.  Yeah, that's in all caps.  Their new athletic facilities are a notch above any I've ever seen.  Take a look at the video on this page, and start at about 3 min. for the football-specific stuff.  WOW.
  • NFL.  USC has been a pipeline to the NFL, and Carroll turned it into an NFL training camp, complete with a pro day that is pretty much and NFL party.
  • Academcis.  USC is a really good school.

Basically, Kiffin sells fame and fortune wrapped in Hollywood glamour at one of the most successful programs in college football history.  Not a tough sell, even for a douchebag.

Still, I am sickened by this, and wish it would get more press.

18 weeks 6 days ago Inside Runs

Inside runs are vital to any offense; those are the runs that open up the off tackle opportunities.  Your YPC avg. will almost always be higher on the outside, but if the defense knows that's where you're going, it's going to be tough sledding.

Inside runs are not designed to be home runs; they are designed to force your opposition to defend the middle of the field, thus opening the outside of the field where big plays can happen.

Even Chip Kelly admits his goal is to be able to run up the gut--it is the shortest path to yards (straight line) and forces the defense to adjust.

18 weeks 6 days ago Congrats

Great news for Tremendous.  I wish him the best of success at 247.  Maybe he can pop over to MGoBlog every now and then and submit his info for us?  No one has to know.

18 weeks 6 days ago Wait, you want more plays on defense?

While statistical analysis says that you want more plays to reduce variance, this is an absolutely ridiculous argument when it comes to football.  You want your defense on the field for as few plays as possible, and a ball control offense helps with that.

Also, you want to play a style of football that minimizes the risks you take on each play, as turnovers and mistakes are often the reason for upsets.  'Bama does all that.

So bring up stats if you want to; as usual, academic theory fails to produce results in the real world.  You simply can't argue with 'Bama's success.

18 weeks 6 days ago Good read

I agree with most everything he wrote.  While the "sexy" spread offense continues to dominate as college football's trend, blocking and tackling are still winning national championships.  It's worth noting that both ND and 'Bama run a lot of power running plays and are built around strong defenses.

I'm certainly not implying that spread offenses don't work or can't work, but the fact is that the game still (and will always) comes down to fundamentals, and while a system can mask flaws, it can't hide them from elite competition.

The good news is that all signs point to Hoke building a program that is similar to 'Bama: strong defense is the focal point, and constructing a monster O-line is the key on that side of the ball.  This opens up the deep pass--something Borges has demonstrated that he is not afraid to use (once DG was in the game)--and forces the defense to pick its poison.

I can't wait to see Michigan grow into a juggernaught.  I strongly believe we'll be better than we've been in 50 years (as a program; obviously '97 was an amazing year) by 2015.

GO BLUE!

19 weeks 4 hours ago 2015

Will be much more exciting...even with Lewan and Schofield gone, we'll have 4 & 5 star talent exclusively on our two-deep, and easily have one of the best O-lines in the country for the foreseeable future.  Next year should be good, but it only gets better...

19 weeks 5 hours ago Have to agree

I think Morris has top 25 tools and talent, but the UA game and some of his camp performances showed that he lacks the consistency that makes a top 25 player.

Regardless, he's got an amazing arm and should wind-up being a very, very QB for Michigan.  Let's not forget that we probably have DG for two years now--no need to rush Shane.

19 weeks 5 hours ago Not sure if serious

His highlight tape is pretty filthy.  I'm guessing that you're not that impressed because you're used to seeing Rawls and Hopkins run all over pathetic competition.  Don't get me wrong--I think Rawls' tape is very impressive, and I still believe he could be our starting RB next year...

...but Green breaks loads of tackles in the reel, and breaks off some long runs where he outruns safeties and corners.  And he's not playing low level talent--those kids are big, strong, fast kids he's up against.  Not every run is a TD, but when I compare his tape to Rawls, Green is better, and I'll give you some comparisons:

  • Green does a great job of FINDING the hole and getting upfield through the path of least resistance. Rawls runs where the play tells him to go, breaks the tackle of a tiny LB, and then outruns a pathetic defense.  Green's vision seems far superior to Rawls, who spends most of his tape just running straight ahead.  Look at how often Green moves laterally, how we waits for his blocks, and how he finds seams in the defense.  Rawls just steams forward.
  • Green does have very good speed.  Look at the play that's snapped at 1:11.  While it's not a TD, he takes a pitch and beats the defense to the outside.  Notice the safety that attacks down and ends-up behind Green...that was a bad angle, but that's a fast safety who is used to making plays with that speed.  Rawls is the fastest guy on the field every play...which, if you've seen him play in the NCAA, should raise red flags about his competition in his reel.
  • Green's tackle-breaking is more subtle than Rawls.  Rather than pinballing (running into players and bouncing off or knocking them over) Green frequently makes subtle lateral movements so that tacklers are sliding off of him or missing arm tackles.  Again, Rawls pounded his HS competition, but that won't happen often in D1 football (unless you're playing Purdue).
  • Green is MUCH bigger than Rawls.  Rawls is 5-10, Green is 6-2.  They have a similar build, but Green is more toned and more powerful.  And I think he's just as fast, if not faster.  Watch the snap at 2:00--again, Green outruns the entire defense to the sideline.
  • Rawls tends to run towards the open space; Green is comfortable staying in tighter spaces.  This has proven true in Rawls' career at Michigan--he bounces outside too early because he sees green.  In HS, that equalled in TDs.  In the B1G, that equals 2 yard gains that should have been 4 yard gains.  Look at the snap at 2:58 on Green's tape.  That run is more impressive than many of his TD runs.  The blocking is okay but the safety fills the running lane well; Green cuts behind a block and turns it into a gain.

I could go on, but the point is that Green spent his HS career doing the things that college backs need to be able to do, and Rawls spent his HS career running and over and around lesser competition.  As a result, Rawls is having to learn to play the game a different way; Green will be able to play the same way and be successful.  Both have impressive physical tools.  Green is a more polished back that's played tougher competition.  Also, I wouldn't discount the intangibles--clearly Green is known as a hard-worker and leader (he was picked as Captain of his Army AA team) and I think that gets packed into his evaluation.

All that said, I think Green will need some good blocking to be a star, and he should get it at Michigan.  Ty Isaac, IMO, can create more yards without help, but isn't going to move the pile.

19 weeks 9 hours ago I like the shuffle idea

But I like Kalis at LG.  That would give us two dominant run-blockers on one side, one of whom is smart enough to make the necessary calls to keep plays successful.  I'd rather not have both of our seniors right next to each other.  Let Schofield stay on the right side and help make the calls over there.

19 weeks 9 hours ago 9-3 is the best case?

I can't get on board with that.  I'm older too, and I hope more realistic, but to say 9-3 is the best case is just getting downright stodgy.

The DG-led offense demonstrated serious potential, even with the worst interior O-line at Michigan in many, many years.  If our line gets to even average Michigan levels--and with Lewan back I think it will be even better than average--than our offense should be able to produce points.  Why:

  • DG is an extremely efficient player.  He may lack consistent accuracy, but he excellent at scrambling for the first down and our 3rd down conversion rate with him at QB was amazing.
  • Gallon should be All-B1G next year.
  • Funchess should catch 30 balls next year, and is probably good for 8 TDs or so.
  • Dileo is a reliable slot threat who was used well once DG took over at QB.
  • Hayes and Rawls will have an off-season to battle for the starting RB job.  I do believe one of them will emerge as a solid option.  Both have talent and will get a steady diet of carries.  Adding Deveon Smith to the mix also encouraging; Derrick Green would be amazing.  My point is that I do NOT believe our RBs will have a terrible 2013
  • Darboh and Chesson should contribute; Al Borges has a history of getting production out of his WRs no matter who they are.  Both these guys are talented and should produce something next year.
  • DEFENSE.  I don't see many question marks.  You never return 11 starters.  Sure, we are losing 5, but only one of those players (Kovacs) is concerning, and there were NO other seniors on the two-deep.  If we can find an adequate replacement at safety--and I believe we can--our defense should be substantially upgraded.  Heitzman, Bolden/Ross, Countess, and even Jarrod Wilson are all athletically superior to the guys they replace, and BWC was really just a rotational player this year already.  Black, Henry, Godin, Pipkins, etc should have no trouble replacing him.  The Defense is likely to be better in 2013.

So what I'm saying is that a better defense and a much easier schedule might not be enough to get us to 12-0, but to say 9-3 is the ceiling after going 8-4 against a far tougher schedule is obnoxiously pessimistic.  I think 9-10 wins should be the expectation, with 11 a pleasant surprise and 8 a terrible mess.  12 wins is an outlier, IMO, but so is 8.

19 weeks 9 hours ago Actually, 6

NW will be a tough game next year as well, and it's not like they were an easy out this year.

That said, IF the O-line can get their act together, I think double-digit regular season wins is very attainable.  Gallon, Funchess, and Dileo are reliable targets, and I expect some of our sophomores to step-up.

Hayes and Rawls will probably take big steps forward (they need to) and Darboh and Chesson will be better.  If we get good blocking and decent RB play, and a sophomore WR steps up, the sky is the limit.

That's a lot of "IFs".  9-3 or 10-2 seem most likely; 11-1 possible; 12-0 and 8-4 seem like outliers to me.

19 weeks 9 hours ago 6 turnovers

Against ND.

12-0 will be real, real tough.  Don't forget that our upperclassmen (the few that remain) are holdovers from the RR style.  This will be a very young team that I believe will stumble at least once in the regular season, as ND, Nebraska, NW, PSU, and Ohio could all be ranked teams when we play them.

That said, I feel a lot better about going to the B1G Championship game now...and perhaps it will be a rematch with Ohio.  I think we are looking at a 10 or 11 win regular season.

GO BLUE!

19 weeks 10 hours ago But...my friends at Auburn

But...my friends at Auburn said Green was a lock!

This is truly a blessed day; Lewan + Green = Happiness.

That said, I LOVE Deveon Smith, and even if we don't get Green, I expect and improved O-line, a legitimate passing game, and another year of seasoning for Hayes/Rawls (along with our freshmen RBs) will lead to an improved run game next year.

19 weeks 10 hours ago Yeah, but

That would be in 2014.

19 weeks 10 hours ago You do an excellent job of

You do an excellent job of looking at situations from a balanced standpoint, and I think you are right.

As to the first issue--moving Gardner to WR--I think that the injury was NOT one where the trainer or coaching staff could have noticed that there was something wrong.  Denard's mechanics have never been consistent.  He passed well at the end of 2011 against Nebraska and Ohio, but seemed to have regressed in the off-season, which is why I believe the nerve was aggravated to some degree.  But again, I think it was an injury that just made a subtle difference--like a minor sprain--and wasn't nearly enough to keep Denard on the sideline.

That said, we were going all in on Denard unless there was a significant injury.  And moving Gardner to WR was not becuase we had depth at QB--it was because we desperately needed help at WR.  Not to mention that DG had not shown much promise before his first start, so Bellomy looked like a comparable back-up.  The Nebraska game, of course, changed everything, but I don't think the coaches wanted to move DG, I think they felt they had to move DG to give us the best chance to win.

The running game argument...you hit the nail on the head with your last paragraph.  Teams always knew that with Denard at QB we'd be a running team.  That didn't stop us from putting up big rushing numbers in 2011.  I'm afraid the implications here are clear: our O-line play was just downright bad in 2012.  Even when DG was in and teams were keeping one or both safeties high we couldn't run effectively.  When you can't run against seven in the box, that is a bad sign.  When you can't run agasint seven in the box against Minnesota and Iowa, that is an even worse sign.

But Lewan is back, and I have to believe the 2013 O-line will be a significant upgrade.

19 weeks 10 hours ago Amazing

I think this speaks volumes about our program.  Michigan football is special--special enough to wait another year to get millions of dollars and play at the highest level.

It's also a good reminder that when people are making decisions, you can never be sure.  I'm so excited for our season and much more hopeful that a B1G Championship is within reach now.  

GO BLUE!

19 weeks 1 day ago Congrats to Denard

It will be exciting to see how NFL coaches use him.  He might be playing for the Lions staff, FWIW, since they are coaching one of the teams.

19 weeks 1 day ago I don't think there is much

I don't think there is much of a chance we burn Gedeon's redshirt.  These are our LBs going into next year:

  • Antonio Poole
  • Dan Liesman
  • James Ross
  • Mark Lawson
  • Mike Jones
  • Royce Jenkins-Stone
  • Jake Ryan
  • Desmond Morgan
  • Joe Bolden
  • Kaleb Ringer
  • Cam Gordon

The ONLY guy on our current two-deep that departed is Demens; I believe that Poole, Ringer, RJS, or even Mike Jones could take his spot.  IF a freshman LB plays, I expect it's on special teams.

19 weeks 1 day ago Agreed.  I think our defense

Agreed.  I think our defense will be better next year.  I do believe that a pass-rushing D-Lineman is still a big question mark (as it was this year) but I expect that we'll see substantial improvement over last year's squad.

I also agree that the offense is much more of a cause for concern with our super-young O-line.  That, and we don't seem to have a starting RB on the roster.

19 weeks 1 day ago I'm just not sure having a

I'm just not sure having a lot of bodies equals having a game-changer.  I hope you're right, and there certainly is potential there, but there is little to no evidence that we are going to have a player at any position on the D-Line that can get consisent pass-rush pressure or TFLs.  We need that player to emerge.  I don't think it's an impossibility, but I just don't know whom it would be.  Again, my best guess is Ojemudia.

19 weeks 2 days ago Strange

I thought when you capitalized "Perfect Spot" that it was referring to somewhere on a girl's...nevermind.

I think the schedule is much more than a C+; NW will be a tough game next year at their place, Sparty will make life difficult before losing, and Penn State away is a real challenge.  Ohio, ND, and Nebraska are very good teams that will threaten Hoke's unblemished Big House record.

I think this year's schedule was an A, next season's is a B+.

And I do believe we should probably be ranked closer to #15, but we have to prove it.

19 weeks 2 days ago Morgan, Ross, Bolden, and Progress

I love that we are arguing over which starting-caliber LB will win the job.  These are definitely Hoke Problems.

I happen to believe that Desmond Morgan is a very solid player who could be a great fit at MLB.  Bolden and Ross are undoubtedly more athletic, but speed does not equal success (ie Brandon Spikes).  I do believe there is a chance Morgan moves down the depth chart, but I also believe he is a very good player who could be a 2nd team all-conference LB that gets drafted in the middle rounds.  What this means is that we have FOUR very, very good LBs, and the beginning of a dominant depth chart on defense.  LB appears to be the first position to be loaded, especially when you consider that Mike McCray and Ben Gedeon join the squad next fall.

Kovacs and Denard are two of my favorite players in Michigan history.  That said, it's time for us to move on, and that's not a bad thing.  Just as I expect the offense will be more efficient with DG at the helm than it was with Denard, I do believe that Kovacs' replacement at safety will (eventually) be a better player.  Jordan's intangibles won't be replaced, but for our program to continue its upward swing we need to have better athleticism on the field.  While the 2013 secondary will be young and make the occasional bone-headed play, keep in mind that we're adding four solid 4* DB recruits in Jourdan Lewis, Dymonte Thomas, Ross Douglas, Delano Hill, and a sleeper 3* in Channig Stribling...and we may be adding one more.  Within a couple of years, we'll have a loaded depth chart in the defensive backfield as well.

The D-Line is another story.  I believe it's a bigger question mark than the secondary, largely because we MUST find a way to produce a pass rush, and I'm not sure we will.  Pipkins and Washington form a solid NT nucleus, but we still lack a great DT none of our DEs strike me as game-breakers.  I actually favor Ojemudia as the pass rush surprise, with Taco behind him.  I just don't see Beyer or Clark ever becoming elite in that regard.  Black looked like a pass rush terror at times, but I really hope he develops as a DT, because right now I think our best front four is: QWash, Black, Ojemudia, Heitzman, with Beyer in at WDE on running downs.  The good news is that we will have a glut of D-Line talent after adding Taco, Poggi, and Hurst this year, and still have Wormley, Godin, and Henry wearing redshirts.

Bottom line: I expect a very strong back seven, and more Hoke-Mattison-Montgomery magic on the D-Line, but for us to win the B1G, we need a star to emerge on the defensive front.

19 weeks 2 days ago I like the data

I might be a nerd, but I just like seeing the data.  There is no real "conclusion" to any data; it's all just information that is part of a larger picture.

I do believe the nerve injury has been affecting Denard for quite some time and that the Nebraska game was just an aggravation of the existing damage.  This accounts for Denard's drop in passer efficiency this season, and is probably a blessing in disguise for him.  Why?  I think the South Carolina game definitively shows that Denard can play a position that is NOT QB and be successful.

He was a great one and I will miss him.  I am also ready to move on to the DG era.  GO BLUE!

19 weeks 3 days ago Staph infection

It's the same elbow the supposed staph infection was on; he was wearing a pad on it in the Minny game.  I wonder if that treatment contributed to the nerve damage, or had anything to do with it.

19 weeks 3 days ago What?

DG's passer rating and numbers also include games against Ohio and South Carolina.  I think it's fair to say his five games are a representative sample of the competition level he'll be facing next year.  It's not like his numbers were just pulled from two games.

As for Green's impact, I think if he comes we'll be better than 40th; without him we're probably a bit worse.  However, I think we'll be in the top 50 with or without him (averaging around 175 yds/game or 4.5 YPC).

19 weeks 3 days ago He left a few games with

He left a few games with "numbness" in 2011.  I'm not exactly sure which ones, and too lazy to do the research now, but I remember seeing him flexing his hand and holding his arm.  Hoke was obviously familiar with the injury as well, and it was clear they had dealt with it.  I'm not positive how many games it had previously affected, but I'd love to know.

19 weeks 3 days ago What was I way too optimistic

What was I way too optimistic on?  The YPC of the rushing game?  I don't think 40th in the country is a lofty goal.  The passing game was very good this year with DG at the helm; why wouldn't it improve next year?  And there was no running game this year with Denard out, but that didn't stop DG from playing at a very high level.

I agree that Green could be the X-factor, and I believe we will have him.  That is essentially baked into my predictions.

Of course ND won't be a pushover; they are listed as a possible loss.  But they have ZERO effect on a B1G Championship, which is how Hoke defines success.

19 weeks 5 days ago Best wishes

I don't like Kiffin. I don't much like USC. But I wish LM3 the best...just not his football team.

19 weeks 5 days ago Double

Post

19 weeks 6 days ago Getting small

Getting small is a reference to turning your body in order to slip between blockers or slide off of blocks.  It is a difficult technique, and Poggi does it well.

I was impressed with Poggi, Dawson, and Kugler.  LTT has a long way to go.  Ira Denson was a beast.  Cameron Hunt also looked strong, and I would love it if we added him to the class.  He appears better than LTT.

Going back to Poggi for a second, you can tell he is a son-of-a-coach.  His technique is extraordinary for a HS kid, and I would expect him to start making an impact after a year of adding strength and weight.  In 2014, I think he will be in the rotation at DT or SDE.

20 weeks 3 hours ago My friends at Auburn

Said your friends were dumb.

Seriously though, I don't see how this hire would sway Green, or how anyone could make that claim.  Derrick Green can come to Michigan, start from day one, and be a first-round draft pick after winning the Heismann Trophy as a junior.

Why?  We play a pro style offense and have recruited the best OL talent in the country, along with one of the best QBs in the country.  Why would he go Auburn where he has to compete with other talented RBs who are more suited to a system he doesn't want to play?

20 weeks 3 hours ago ?

Wait...what?

The interior O-line (Mealer and Barnum) could not block on running or passing plays, and I'm not sure how you can call our pass pro "very good."  Denard threw most of his picks under heavy pressure, DG dodged pressure for scrambles, and we ran sprint outs to avoid the inevitable up-the-gut pressure on about 50% of our pass plays once we went to pro style.  The blocking was very, very bad.

The trouble here is that this is not an opinion-based argument; the blocking was factually bad.  Ask coaches, scouts, grocery clerks or anyone who knows anything about football.  Our offensive line was offensive.

Denard's yards were mostly his, and even our own O-Line seemed to apologize after every game for their run-blocking.

This unit will be more talented next year, and will be better at run-blocking.  Pass pro will be an adventure for the young guys, but I seriously doubt that by mid-season it is any worse than this year's version.

20 weeks 1 day ago We didn't make the plays we had

SC made the plays that were given to them, and we didn't. We had open receivers for long passes and missed them. We had a sack on the last drive and didn't tackle. We had good coverages called and didn't make plays.

They hit long passes in tight seams. They made a fumble out of a hand off. They just made a few more plays than we did.

In my opinion, we had a chance to win the game and didn't execute. Sure the coaching could have been better. But we missed chances that were there and they took the opportunities we gave them.

I look forward to having a better offensive line, an improved DG, and an even better defense next year. I think we will make a few more plays.

22 weeks 2 days ago Next year

We are going to be extremely young next year--without a doubt the youngest team in the upper echelon of college football.  We won't have experience + talent until 2014, and that's another year of tough scheduling...

A couple of items worth exploring:

  • The attrition in recent years seems overwhelmingly focused on a few positions: RB, WR, and DB.  RB and WR are really no surprise--the skillset required by Hoke/Borges at these positions is vastly different from what RR desired.  But DB?  If you can cover and keep your assignments, you can play.  It seems that we managed to recruit a bunch of ding-dongs at this position.  From the '09 class, 5/6 DBs are gone, with Thomas Gordon being the only survivor.  From that same class, 2/3 RBs actually made it (Toussaint and Smith) and 1/2 WRs.
  • 2010 is a different story...both RBs are gone (White and Hopkins), only 2/5 WRs stayed (Dileo and Jackson), and 5/7 DBs left.
  • 2011 has 3/5 DBs contributing: Taylor, Countess, and Hollowell, with 2 leaving.  Both RBs are here (Rawls and Hayes) and should be solid contributors next year.  3/4 LBs made it, with Kellen Jones mysteriously disappearing (academics?).
  • Using my crystal ball, here is who I think might not make it from the 2012 class: Ringer (injury), Gant, and Jeremy Clark.  That's two more DBs, which I think is one of the toughest positions to scout, because the mental part of the game is so important. But most of the other players from the 2012 class will be important contributors next season, making us VERY young (as noted).
  • The 2013 class is loaded.  As good as 2012's haul was, it doesn't really compare to 2013.  I would expect 13-16 multi-year starters and at least 6 players to be drafted, with another 2-3 getting signed as free agents.  There are probably going to be 20!!! solid contributors from this class.  That is amazing.

I think attrition for 2012 and 2013 will be uncharacteristically low, and we'll go back to having a fair amount (6 per year or so) of attrition starting with the 2014 class, because playing time will be tougher to come by.  Of the 6 I expect we'll average, I'm guessing 2-3 of those are academics/team rules/quit football and 3-4 are playing time.

 

22 weeks 3 days ago Congrats

Always good to see a Michigan Man get his degree.  Congratulations, Yukon Cornelius!

22 weeks 5 days ago Welcome to the family

Congratulations to Delano on earning an offer to the greatest institution in the land. We are blessed to have you join this historic class.

22 weeks 5 days ago Welcome!

We are fortunate to have a player of his caliber. Welcome back to the family, David.

23 weeks 6 days ago Awesome Story

What an amazing story.  Brock is a shining example of a Michigan Man, and I have to say I'm so grateful for Barwis too.  I wish the Mealers the best!

23 weeks 6 days ago Did you just compare Jeff

Did you just compare Jeff Backus to Jake Long?  Uh, not even close.  I'd take Long everytime.  Backus was a very, very good lineman, but he's not Jake Long, and his NFL career has only been above average.  His durability has been better than his play.

And I think we're mistaken to lump "linemen" into one categroy.  An OG is as different from an OT as a slot TE is from a flanker.  Jake Long may very well be the best OT Michigan has ever had; Hutch might have the edge on best lineman.

But Lewan's point is well-taken: there is a LONG (see what I did there?) list of players who should be in this conversation.

To answer the OP's question: 0 sacks, dominant run-blocking on the left side, 1 or fewer penalties.

24 weeks 8 hours ago Any time a commit visits

Any time a commit visits another school and talks positively about an offer, it's a good sign.  Think about our recruits that have talked positively about other schools...there are only a few, and they have ended-up decommitting.

24 weeks 1 day ago Great work, as always

LSA,

While statistical analysis only tells part of the story, I for one ALWAYS appreciate your work, and this is another great example.  Thank you, and well done.

A few tweaks to consider:

  • Number of attempts in the passing and running game is not a good "target."  Being above or below that does not indicate success or failure; however, a total number of plays on offense (higher is better) and defense (lower is better) might be a good measure.  However, I do like to see the data on attempts; I just wouldn't include it in the "target" metrics.
  • That said, completion percentage is an important statistic, and I think you ought to chart that.

All-in-all, a very good post, and fun to think about.  What's best is that it seems to work: the teams with the highest overall scores were the best in the B1G, and it ranked the offenses and defenses accurately as well.

24 weeks 2 days ago Paul Chryst

I think that's the most likely candidate for the job.

24 weeks 2 days ago Great stuff

I love the Michigan family; we truly have something special, and I'm so proud of all those seniors.

Good luck and God bless to all of them.

24 weeks 2 days ago Sigh

Unfortunately, this won't happen.  Makes too much sense from every aspect save geography. This is important because the cost of travel for the schools in the less filling division would be astronomical.  Only way this happens is if the conference works out a deal to subsidize travel for the in the community division.

I hope that happens, but doubt it.

24 weeks 3 days ago Cato June

June is looking like he deserves a spot on that staff.

24 weeks 3 days ago With the RR recruiting

With the RR recruiting classes dwindling down to next-to-nothing, I don't think we'll see as much attrition in the future.  Instead of 7 per year, I would expect more like 3-5.  And while it's sad to see a member of the Michigan family go, it is a good problem to have when you are losing talented kids because they can't get enough playing time.  

24 weeks 3 days ago I believe

This class will add Dawson, Conley, Green, and one or two suprises.  McQuay would be awesome.  Treadwell appears to be a reach.  Maybe one of the new offers pans out.

We'll definitely have a little drama on signing day for one or two spots.

24 weeks 3 days ago Florida Game

Florida actually rushed for 89 yards, not 48.  Shockingly, 48 is the number of rushing ATTEMPTS by UF in that game.

It's worth pointing out that Florida only accumulated 183 yards in their victory over SCar.  This is a very, very good defense.  The only team that found consistent success on the ground was LSU, and they did it with a decidedly MANBALL strategy between the tackles.  That does not bode well for our offense, since most of our blocking between the tackles is...not good.

As for SCar's offense, they have accurate passers and better receivers that we've faced for most of the year.  If NW could move the ball through the air against us, believe that SCar can too.

I expect this game to be somewhat similar to last year's Sugar Bowl.  We will be overmatched, but we are good enough to pull out a win if we can get some turnovers and make some big plays.

24 weeks 3 days ago Thanks

For the update.  It always feels lousy to lose a member of the family.  I wish him well wherever he lands.

24 weeks 3 days ago I wish

This is going to be a very, very tough game for us.  While only Ohio and 'Bama were able to move the ball against us consistently this year, the Gamecock offense has been able to slice-up some pretty good defenses.  I don't think we hold them to 10 points.

I think we'll need to score 28 points to win this game, and I don't think our O-line is good enough to get us there.  If we can't create two turnovers on defense, we are in big trouble.

25 weeks 1 day ago Despite popular belief on

Despite popular belief on this board, your offensive line has to execute in order for any play to be successful--we just weren't able to do that well enough this season.

25 weeks 1 day ago Our success this season was

Our success this season was always going to be predicated on our ability to throw the football effectively.  The reason is simple: the O-line is not yet good enough to open holes for runners consistently.

Denard, unfortunately, didn't take the step forward as a passer that we hoped he would.  In the passing game, we were unable to protect as well as we needed to against top competition.

The bottom line is that without the credible threat of a passing game, we couldn't limit opponents to keeping fewer defenders in the box.  As it turns out, our passing game woes were largely because of two key factors: the O-line couldn't protect and Denard wasn't a very good throwing QB.

Once Devin came in, he had success as a passer, and the offense moved.  We still couldn't run effectively, and Devin was constantly under pressure, even against weaker opponents.

I am truly looking forward to improved O-line play next year and beyond...

25 weeks 1 day ago Not complicated

It means being able to block on passing or running plays.  We couldn't do either.

25 weeks 1 day ago I would like to have seen a

I would like to have seen a few more calls with Devin and Denard on the field at the same time, but I do agree that if you can't establish the LOS, you're going to have a hard time winning.  If you turn the ball over four times, you're going to have a hard time winning.  These people that think play calling magically erases O-line issues just don't understand the game.  That said, some play-action with Denard would have been nice to see.

Despite our blunders, we were still in a position to win the game in the fourth quarter.  Could the play-calling have been better?  Yes.  Is it the reason we lost the game?  No.  Lots factors contributed to the loss:

  • O-line play
  • Defense allowing runs up the gut to close out the game
  • Defense allowing 20 first half points
  • Turnovers
  • JT Floyd beat deep
  • Cuts and lanes missed by runners
  • Playcalling (yes, it could have been better)

And let's not forget that Ohio has a darn talented team, and frankly, just outplayed us.

25 weeks 1 day ago "The fact is, we are clearly

"The fact is, we are clearly not as talented as Ohio on the line, making plays that count on offensvie line execution alone the wrong play call."

REALLY???!!!  This is a perfect demonstration of fan ignorance.  There is NO play that doesn't require offensive line execution.  NONE.  Any running play, any passing play, depends on offensive line execution.  In the first half, when Denard ran for a TD, were you complaining that the line had to block?

Denard playing QB was just a "wildcat" formation that gave us an extra blocker on running plays.  It's a concept that has worked very well in both college and pro football, and had worked in this game.  If an OT misses a block, no matter what play you're running, you're probably going to lose yards.

And on this play, it was Taylor F-ing Lewan that missed the block...so you're saying we shouldn't call plays that expect Lewan to block properly?

Borges didn't call a great game, IMO, but blaming him for poor O-line execution by our all-world LT is ridiculous.

25 weeks 1 day ago Simmer

I'm glad Conley is looking around if he's not sure.  If Michigan is the right place for him, he'll end-up coming back to us.  And if he can't come back because there is no room, it means we have some AMAZING players in his place.

I wish Conley and his family the best.

25 weeks 1 day ago This needs to get bumped

And put on the homepage board.  Kovacs is an awesome player and person, and deserves this award.  GO VOTE!

Also, it's a terrible website.  You have to click a red button that says AT&T Fan Voting that looks like a sidebar or advertisement.  

25 weeks 2 days ago Amen

And we have a kicker/punter that is good enough to adequately replace both of them.

We will be an even younger team next year than we were this year, but we'll be ridiculously talented.  Unfortunately, that probably means we'll have moments of brilliance and moments of stupor...

25 weeks 2 days ago I agree

While I think Braden was an uderrated prospect, I believe Magnuson is the better player, and is certainly no slouch as a run blocker.  While Magnuson has a 23 lb. disadvantage (according to UM) a year of conditioning could easily get him up to 300.  I believe that spot is very much a dog fight, and the edge, IMO, goes to Magnuson.

25 weeks 2 days ago Not sure if serious

Did you see the Iowa game?  They were using some dude they found on the street and he was gashing our pretty darn good defense.  Good blocking makes almost any RB good.  

Look at what the loss of Molk and Schofield (on the interior) did to Fitz's production...it's not like Fitz has gotten worse at football over the past year (I think...right?).

25 weeks 2 days ago Will Green Go Blue?

If we can add another top-tier player to this class, anything else would be icing on the cake.  I strongly believe Derrick Green will end-up a Michigan commit, making this our best recruiting class on paper in at least 15 years, IMO.

If we are able to add Green and get one or more of these guys, I have to believe we are the #1 class and this class becomes the best ever at Michigan:

  • Laquon Treadwell
  • Leon McQuay III
  • Ty Isaac

Of course, it would be nice to have Lacy or Hunt take Dawson's spot, but I am confident that we'll find an adequate replacement there even if we don't get one of them.

25 weeks 2 days ago Barnum at C

I would hope that we all learned something from last year's "lock" of Barnum being our 2012 center.

This coaching staff is not going to tip its hand about who the starter will be.  I think Miller will be the guy everyone says has the job; it really could end-up being almost any interior line player.

25 weeks 2 days ago First day pick

There is only one round in the first day of the 3-day NFL draft now.  I assume you mean a player who gets picked before the third day, which is rounds 4-7.

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