|1 day 18 hours ago||Okay, this instantly makes me||
Okay, this instantly makes me think of Drake Johnson. The team seems to have backups that might be better than the starters, but they don't play more. I wonder why. Strangely, they did start Morris over Gardner.
|3 days 16 hours ago||?? They already sold 100k and||
?? They already sold 100k and they count paid attendance. Where's the threat?
|6 days 13 hours ago||That is not what Haney said.||
That is not what Haney said. He said he has not spoken to anyone who believes that a Harbaugh would leave the NFL for UM. Maybe his sources just don't have a reason t believe one way or another? Maybe he is predisposed to needing someone to believe it before he will believe it. If everyone gives hm non-committal answers then he doesn't not believe it. If he said his sources don't believe it will happen, that is a slightly different quote.
|6 days 13 hours ago||Please delete||
|1 week 19 hours ago||Bad at communicating? Is||
Bad at communicating? Is your need to pile on against Hoke so deep, you have to look for faults that are not there? We get it. You are hurt because the team didn't win enough. We all are. Stop irrationally lashing out against the coach because you are a hurt fan. Clark is in jail. Hike is an extremely busy man (who probably works more hours a day than most people really work in a week). There is no problem not talking to Clark at this point. Seriously, are you just looking for reasons to question Any of Hoke's actions because you had a sad face at then end of games this year?
|1 week 1 day ago||What is the difference||
What is the difference between a reason and an excuse? A reason is just a reason. An excuse means you think they should be forgiven for the reason. You can feel bad for someone and not find it excusable of their actions.
|1 week 1 day ago||What?||
|1 week 1 day ago||I don't think 17 carries for||
I don't think 17 carries for 6 yards sounds familiar this year at all. We are not great at running the ball, but we average more than a yard more per carry than Maryland. That is not an insignificant difference.
|1 week 2 days ago||"Enough" detail? Enough for||
"Enough" detail? Enough for what? The kid may have done everything mentioned and more, but there is more to it. As an aside, this is the EXACT reason criminal cases have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. A lot of people have "enough facts" after two minutes.
|1 week 2 days ago||A police report is never full||
A police report is never full detail of what happened. That is just reality. It could have been worse or better. I don't know. But, I also know enough to understand what a police report means.
|1 week 2 days ago||Full detail? You should||
Full detail? You should change the title. Police reports are never the full story. I don't care what he did or didn't do (honestly, I don't), I just feel sad that a website full of UM grads appears ignorant of the legal system.
|1 week 3 days ago||Your mom. Both are overweight||
Your mom. Both are overweight and always sound like they are chewing on something. Neither likes to wear much clothes. And both try really hard, but leave me wanting more. Zing.
|1 week 3 days ago||Not really. Minny is a good||
Not really. Minny is a good team. ODU is better, but hardly elite.
|1 week 3 days ago||Let's just not rag on our own||
Let's just not rag on our own team unnecessarily. When they do some good, I like to acknowledge that too and not belittle what they have done.
|1 week 3 days ago||I think OSU will beat Minny||
I think OSU will beat Minny too, I would just not expect them to roll away early in the 3rd or something. It should be a one or two score game. Same thing with MSU and Maryland. The big ten has lots of teams in the spectrum of mediocre to good without significant seperation. People might call it "balanced" and not very impressive nationally.
|1 week 3 days ago||Wow. I thought there some||
Wow. I thought there some really good defensive plays last week, but if you want to say downing punts were the two best plays, I'll blindly accept it without thinking.....
|1 week 3 days ago||Ohio State's record over the||
Ohio State's record over the year has shown them to be a very good, but not great team. They have one impressive win over a team that was also very good and not great. I don't think Michigan will beat them, but their resume is not very impressive. I expect a good game in Minny today.
|1 week 5 days ago||Hi, Jim!!!||
|1 week 5 days ago||Miami? Why would he go there||
Miami? Why would he go there when he turned their huge offer down a few years ago?
|2 weeks 9 hours ago||Demand excellence!!! Leave wisdom to the adults.||
Demand excellence!!! Leave wisdom to the adults.
|2 weeks 9 hours ago||A joke?||
I will easily argue that.
Stop whining and moaning. We all are down about the football team based on our expectations, but you over-state the fact because you are immature.
A joke? You didn't say "had some bad years" or haven't lived up to expectations. You said it has been a joke and has been for "quite some time."
Absolutely not true. a .500 record is a "joke"? Disappointing, yes? Laughingstock bad? Nope. How about a solid 2012 team and a Sugar Bowl win four years ago? Has it been a "joke" for quite some time.
You want to demand excellence, but you come off looking like an ill-informed child.
|2 weeks 13 hours ago||How old are you?||
"...then why don't you fuck the fuck off and make everyone happier?"
|2 weeks 13 hours ago||Who are the trust fund babies?||
Who on the team are trust fund babies? How do those numbers compare to previous years?
James Ross III?
Which of the guys on the team can I get a lone from?
|2 weeks 13 hours ago||INitiated by millionaires||
So, Millionaires are starting a class warfare with trust fund babies? Which one is more entitled?
Man, I feel bad for Foote's kids....if he avoids the pitfalls of NFL players and money...his best hope is for them to be "trust fund babaies." In that case, he will probably spit in their face and call them soft.
|2 weeks 13 hours ago||Taken down?||
If we took down all the similar arguments based on the "eye test" and how people feel about the team, there would be little left here. This isn't a scientific journal and no one here acts like it is. If you have an opinion that Peppers is going to be awesome and looks great in the spring game, that stays. If you say the players look slow and lumbering and must be coached that way in S&C, well... you gotta have some facts. What sets do they use? How can you quantify the slowness? No wanser. Fine. Deletion.
|2 weeks 14 hours ago||Sticky?||
That sticky is "an ad-hoc way of tracking what threads and comments get removed. Mods that remove a thread should post the title here with a brief reason as to why the thread is gone."
1. The thread is almost exclusively posts by mods of what they deleted. Its a mod discussion, not a poster discussion.
2. It doesn't appear on the front page (unless you open up a category at top). I didn't even know it existed. It is a dark corner of this site.
3. It doesn't even contain the deleted threads. Even if people wanted to discuss in the sticky, they aren't able to access the topic of conversation.
4. It appears to be mainly just a bulliten board of warnings on what gets posts deleted. It is not about "discussing" why it happens.
That is not a public form to discuss things.
|2 weeks 15 hours ago||Not really.||
Disappointment in this site doesn't equate with feeling "upset" or "hurt" about it. Just sad to see how things "progressed." It's like seeing an old friend fall on hard times. I am not hurt or angry about it, just sympathetic.
|2 weeks 15 hours ago||Public discourse||
I understand our point. But, raising something in private hardly makes much of a point about the failure to raise concerns in public.
|2 weeks 15 hours ago||Echo Chamber||
This place is private. There is no freedom of anything. There doesnt have to be.
It is run by an closely-knit group and having "open discussions" is not a primary concern of theirs. You must follow the Mgoblog group think or you will be marginalized or deleted.
The only way to survive here is to spend most waking hours checking the site (don't want to repost). You also need to use board-created lingo exclusively (yeah, that MOON game thing is really quite a nickname). You also don't want to disagree with a few popular die-hards who are always on here.
Its sad. Its not an open forum. Just a place to go along with the group.
It used to be a little different back in the day, but Brian got mad at a group of regulars and made the decision he was getting too old to put up with open dissension. That mindset has trickeled down to the regulars. Its too bad that banished group had to be such jerks, but we all pay for it now.
|2 weeks 15 hours ago||Dozen times before??||
I frequent the board on an almost daily basis and did not see it. Its pathetic that someone gets negged for having other crap to do. That's a very weak reflection of the type of person who belongs on here (i.e., someone without much of a life).
|2 weeks 15 hours ago||Clearly||
Not worthy of DELETION. You may disagree, but c'mon. Don't be afraid to discuss.
|2 weeks 16 hours ago||Agree||
I am not down on Nuss and Hoke for struggling with run-first recruited QBs. I think there is some basis there for that to be a potentially excusbable reason for offensive struggles. But, having no one else? Come on. Where the hell is Bellomy? I know he injured his ACl, but he is back this year. THIRD year in the program. He should be able to do something. Anything.
Fine. Maybe he is a just a bust (trying not to base everything off the NU game).
What about Morris> Why is he horrid? I know he had mono a couple years ago, but that is hardly an excuse for not knowing what to do out there.
How about a "preferred walk-on" or a transfer? They had three years to find a transfer. They can recruit. WHat happened?
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Time||
I don't think they announced a time. It wil be announced six days before kick.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Michigan wins||
Gardner looks better at home and the run game continues to improve against a bad defense.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||??||
Every defense does better against worse teams and not as good against better teams. It is on par (or better) than the defenses of the other B10 championship contenders.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||It's not bullshit||
First, calm down. This is an excersize in hypothecial critical thinking. That is clear. He should be gone.
Second, we are not Northwestern, but we are no Miami or LSU. This will and should be a factor in who coaches here. It won't be nearly enough IMO.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Its hard to write these articles I bet||
I know it is difficult to write these, but I don't think anyone is going to remember this as the MOON game except Brian and the hard-core followers.
It was aforgetable game, but in line with every other NW game in recent memory.
As for the old saws Brian keeps addressing, both are starting to lose their luster:
1. Comparing Hoke to RR. If this is like the Illinois game, shouldn't we be asking if we should keep Hoke for that reason. TIme has shown the RR is a very good, or even great, coach. Maybe this is really an argument not to be so short-sighted when your (one side of the ball) guru fails early in his tenure only on the other side of the ball? Sorry, we f'ed up in how we reated RR and this just makes me think doing the same to Hoke won't save anything.
2. Comparison to the young OSU offense. This is getting really tired. Meyer is an acknowledged offensive genius. He could probably take a DII team out there and score a lot of points. He turns around EVERY offense he touches instantly . He is unique. The inability to develop the offense as fast as him doesn't say much. Hoke is a defense first guy. I would love it if there were other examples, but saying only one of the highest paid, offensive-first minds could do better.....doesn't really cut hard against Hoke.
I know Hoke is gone. I think he should be (since Utah I have felt that way), but these two points are not very well thought out IMO.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Easy...||
I feel I can handle this. It is not a balancing of all points, just the ones that justify keeping him (in this hypothetical):
1. Graduation Rate. We have an academic President. This is what Michigan football is about in large part. Turning out men with degrees. If we are a serious acamedic school this should be pretty important.
2. Recruiting. He can get great high school players. This would likely be disrupted. This iis the fuel needed for great teams.
3. RichRod QBs/OL. Hoke hasnt had his own QB run a team. He also had a dearth of OL players. He may not be an offensive guru, like Meyer, who can mold a young offense quickly, but as a defensive guru, maybe he should be given a chance.
4. Contract $. This is obvious.
5. Defense. The defense has been B10 championshbip calibur. See Number 3.
I don't think he will be retained, but there it is.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||One data point?||
So, your counter-point involves one coach and one team who have done it quicker? An offensive guru vs. Hoke's defensive mindest? More data please
|3 weeks 3 days ago||What year is it? This site||
What year is it? This site does investigative pieces. It has a press pass. It's reporters are on radio shows a lot. It's reporters are bing hired by ESPN, etc. This isn't some bull item board system from the early days of the internet. This IS mainstream media.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||That is a very 2005 view of||
That is a very 2005 view of things. Maybe old reporters feel that way. I know many editors and reporters. They know their online edition and the internet/blogs are the current state of the media. Maybe in the eyes of Joe Falls this blog isn't mainstream media. Everyone else knows it is. (As a funny aside, Fox News doesn't consider themselves mainstream either.). The no respect card is a hard one to play
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Back patting.||
The back patting around here is getting pretty comical. Every time the media mentions the media (aka this site) as a continuing reason, someone posts it here. It seems like you don't realize that the media like to emphasize the importance of their bretheren.
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||I have made many||
many FOIA requests of entities and discussed the ins and outs of potential defenses to such requests. All bodies subject to FOIA have a policy on record retention. Its like me knowing they have a printer at their office. It is fundamental and standard. It would be ridiculous to assume otherwise and nothing in Brian's post even implies there is no policy. he just doesnt know what it is...
Moreover, I know from looking online that the UM has multiple policies on internal documents (Bentley library) and policies on record retention of student records (the policy is available online). Moreover, they are potentially subject to general policies of the state if they dont have their own.
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||But...||
If you look past BiSB's first blush at the issue, it is unlikely there was a continuing duty to preserve the documents and it likely did not violate any laws.
So, there probably is no reason to look into his contract.
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||General||
There are general policies, but the agencies and divisions can have their own more specific policies too.
|4 weeks 15 hours ago||Um...||
You do realize that OPINION about the 30 days quoted in the article is just some "insider gosspi" given to Brian. It is not the university's retention policy. I am positive they have a legitimate policy inplace despite what this guy in the Ath. Depart. thinks happens.....
|4 weeks 15 hours ago||I agree||
I don't know why BiSB would do such a short-sighted legal analysis on the front page.
|4 weeks 15 hours ago||I am sure she is...||
The emails at issue were deleted long ago. I doubt there are that many FOIAs for Brandon's emails. I am sure the FOIA office notifies her.
|4 weeks 16 hours ago||BiSB and Brian||
I am not sure if this was already addressed in the comments, but...
Roast Brandon all you want, but watch out with the "legal analysis" at the bottom. You say they may have violated FOIA, but that does not seem likely.
There is no duty to maintain public records indefinitely. You cite that the public body has to protect the documents from loss, but you leave it at that. They have to be protected. But, they can be destroyed after a while. You follow that up with a comment that knowingly destroying to avoid FOIA is illegal, but given the systematic nature of the destruction of such documents, that is nearly impossible to argue.
In Michigan, public records can be destroyed as a matter of policy, as long as it is consistant with the accepted record retention guidelines for such documents. You may want to look here before lobbing accusations at the school that it is openly flaunting the law:
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Brace yourselves, flight tracking is coming...||
Brace yourselves, flight tracking is coming...
|4 weeks 3 days ago||He would have gone for two anyway, dummy.||
He would have gone for two anyway, dummy.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||I had a message board post||
I had a message board post deleted because I called out the ridiculousness of this point (that not frothing at the mouth to the press means the kids don't get fired up). I used an example of UMxWolverine's post about Funchess. People told me it was just him, but there are other idiots out there.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||So this is what the "juicy||
So this is what the "juicy news" post was all about? That started because Brian was trying to find a way to verify the Brandon email on his own since the FOIA didn't work, right?
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Read some of the posts about||
Read some of the posts about Hoke's dry press comments and the need for the UM players to SHOW firr
|4 weeks 6 days ago||It is something that I have seen in many other threads||
It is something that I have seen in many other threads
|4 weeks 6 days ago||His thread is just an||
His thread is just an example. Similar things are said in other posts and in response to Hoke's public comments on the game. It's not just the Funchess article post.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||I guess unjustly criticizing||
I guess unjustly criticizing our own players is not a big deal for you then?
|5 weeks 20 hours ago||Yes||
The Indiana game from 2013 skews these stats.
This post claims "STAGGERING STEPS BACK" on offense. That is mainly because of the Indiana game.
But, we see the turnovers and TFLS getting better.
In terms of yardage and progress, if this article was written last week, it would state:
Through six games...
2013: 395 yds/game and 5.8 yds/play
2014: 354 yds/game and 5.6 yds/play
That doesn't look too staggering. The seventh game in each season really skews those numbers.
Plus, throw in a back-up in a game in 2014, a harder defensive schedule, THREE overtimes in 2013 in the first six games, a new offensive coordinator and.....well.... nothing staggering about a very small step back there.
I bet this MLive writer was waiting untilt he seventh game to use these stats.
Next year, let's all get excited when the 2015 offense scores more points per game through 3 games than this year's team. Of course, it has to be 3 games, so we can get that ND shutout in there!!!
The offense may be a little worse, but these stats are very misleading.....
|5 weeks 1 day ago||A little more on your post.||
In addition to it being a copy and paste of a MLive article with incomplete stats, it also FAILS miserably to bring any insight for the following reasons:
1. It presents itself as "staggering stats backwards," but the two things the offense has made an emphasis in the off-season have both IMPROVED (turnovers and TFLs).
2. You don't care about the strength of the defenses, you really offer no valid reason, but that is how you feel. Regardless there is a HUGE statistical outlier in the two years. Seven games into last year, we had just played Indiana and had gained over 750 yards of offense!!!!, 35 first downs and 63 points!!! Crazy Numbers! But, who cares about outliers when you are drwaing arbitrary lines....or better yet, letting Mlive do it for you....right?
How do the numbers look without IU? Still "staggering!!!" as your title states?!?!?
3. Oh yeah, did we have a back-up QB start a game last year? I think that might have been our worst offensive performance. Surely, you are not comparing the two offenses and thinking that doesn't matter? Right again?
4. New offensive coordinator....whatever. Last year was year 3 of the Borgess plan.
We all know the offense has looked bad. We could all agree it looks worse than the first half of last year (which didn't last anyway).
But, to pass these off as "The Stats" and "Staggering Steps backwards" is worthy of crappy statistical use by weak journalists.
Next time tell me about the "record since Bo died" or something equally devoid of insight.
Sorry, but why would you ever think this wasn't a bad piece of journalism and leave it at that?
|5 weeks 1 day ago||No fooling you with defensive||
No fooling you with defensive strength of schedule. You'll find a way to discount that. And other stats (of which there are many) are not important to you. You read MLive and, even more impressive, you can regurgitate one of their articles that starts out with the same premise you have... Down on the Wolverines. No fooling you. :)
|5 weeks 1 day ago||You misunderstand again||
There are no excuses for the offensive performance.
I just meant to point out that you picked out some seemingly good and some really horrible stats to tell a story.
It turns out you just copy and pasted an article from a media outlet that had already sifted through for the worst stats.
MLive rarely adds value. Copying bad journalism doesn't really enhance anyone's knowledge here.
The offense is worse. This does nothing to tell you how much worse or why.... It's just white noise.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Weird.||
This is one of the strangest collection of stats I have ever seen. There are some broad ones (yards, points) and some important ones (3rd down coverstions, etc.)
And, then you just lump in some oddball specific ones. Like 3rd quarter scoring? Why not first, second or fourth quarter? Also, why only Gardner's rushing numbers?
Also, what's up with adding in defensive touchdowns to make a point about offense. How about the caliber of defenses we have played thus far versus the first half of last year.
I mean, use stats if you know how to use them.
Your stats are just a jumbled mess. They really say nothing other than the offense has struggled more this year early in the season than early in the season last year. Big surprise. Are these numbers supposed to put a fine point on it? Because they don't.
|6 weeks 20 hours ago||Buffalo||
Mid-seasoning firing for simply poor performance. That is why you are Buffalo!!! LOL!!!!!
|6 weeks 1 day ago||What year is it? The Spartan||
What year is it? The Spartan defense has not looked great so far this year. I think our defense is better. As for their offense verus ours, though, that is a big advantage for them that puts them over the top versus us in terms of a predicted win.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||No. Not because that's what||
No. Not because that's what we were in the 90s. Because that is what we were in the 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s. Being better from 2010-20 (if that happens over the next five years) doesnt weigh that heavily that it could flip things around to the type of dominance we enjoyed. Sorry.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Decades. It will be decades||
Decades. It will be decades of this status for anyone to legitimately consider the script "flipped." The script was Michigan pounding on MSU and the Big Ten most years for multiple decades. Many other teams have had runs of a few good years or so. But, that's just, like, the facts man.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||You don't think refusing to||
You don't think refusing to go a portion of a game you were going to attend doesn't also send a message to the players? Did you see the players rush the student section after the game? Do you think those players care if the student section has fans? It's shocking you can't see the relation.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Good idea||
Taking it out on the players by not showing up to support them was one of the dumbest ideas ever. What type of fans are that short-sighted and self-concerned?
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Gardner and company.||
Boycotting some college kids game because you don't like the AD? How dumb is that? Why even think of taking away from the player?
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Thanks.||
I need all the help I can get this football season.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||In addition, I just noticed||
In addition, I just noticed (you guys may have already discussed) that Brandon's Twitter account has been inactive for 10 days. Previously, he rarely went 1-2 days without a tweet. Telling??????
|7 weeks 4 days ago||He fired coaches||
Unless they are successful? Shocking!!!! He must go!!!!
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Don't worry...||
... you guys know more about Hoke and Brandon than Beilein!!!!!!! He has nothing on what Brian tells you to think about Hoke and Brandon.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||This doesn't seem that bad at all.||
This doesn't seem that bad at all.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Meaningless post without the||
Meaningless post without the email sent to him. Was it as kind and nicely worded as your friends says? I highly doubt it. But, don't let that stop you.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||He is right.||
He is right.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||This concussion issue and the||
This concussion issue and the kids trying to get rid of Brandon would get just over 2% of the attention it is receiving now on the board. Anyone who thinks the losing part isn't the biggest thing driving almost all of this is just lying there themselves.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||What does your love of Miles||
What does your love of Miles have to do with whether he was Plan A or a home run hire for the athletic department? Answer: nothing. Your post is based on huge fundamental errors in which you think your opinion is the same as the people making decisions.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Your post is premised on a||
Your post is premised on a false assumption. There is no indication that anyone at the University thought of Miles as a Home Run hire or Harbaugh as a Home Run hire. Did we settle or get the guys we want? RichRod was a HomeRun hire, not Miles. RR had just turned down Bama and was at the top of many people's wish list.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Plus those Fresno State rush||
Plus those Fresno State rush numbers were artificially low because of sacks. The run game should work.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Every loss "means something",||
Every loss "means something", sure. They are all big in that way. But, the biggest game of his tenure? That is just laughable. It wouldn't be a good sign. No loss is good. But, it will only be one piece of the assessment and the Big Ten games will likely get more attention in evaluating him anyway.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Are you crazy? You don't||
Are you crazy? You don't think Hoke and others would get wind of a coaching search really quickly? You think Brandon would do that to Hoke? From a professional standpoint? Or from the standpoint of undermining the current team? Plus, the effect it would have on recruiting, etc. I can affirmatively say you are "bat sh$t crazy" if you think there will be a "behind the scenes coach search.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||No. He would have to be on||
No. He would have to be on the precipice of losing his job for that to be true. He isn't. Internet message board type fans may think he should be, but he is not. Thank god we don't let the crazies from the internet run a team. That would be scary.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Who knows. Akron was as bad||
Who knows. Akron was as bad as Miami (they were coming off a one win season). Also, this iteration of NDay be better. App state may not be as good as CMU though.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Defense is ranked number 7 in||
Defense is ranked number 7 in total defense and assuredly high against the run. Combined with rushing, they just need to cut down on turnovers. And they are as good as anything the Big Ten has to offer.
|11 weeks 14 hours ago||Rival fans think the problems||
Rival fans think the problems at UMich are severe. Shocking. Next thing you know, casual fans will look at teams based solely on the final score and big game outcomes. The only thing that affects public perception is winning. We all know that. It is decidedly un-newsworthy.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||Hello?||
Minny is not a rival? Brush up on your history :)
|13 weeks 1 day ago||I don't know you...||
But, you sound like a coward.
There really is no other way to look at it. You are not neutral about the game. You are actually taking steps to make a point that the game makes you feel bad and you will go out of your way not to watch it.
The message you are sending to Dave Brandon and other fans is "if we get upset by a little team, then steer clear of them in the future." It sounds so much like "run away" from the past.
That game must have really put fear and loathing into you. Let it go.
Buck up, little camper.
|13 weeks 3 days ago||Only to point out how stupid||
Only to point out how stupid it is for a topic. Robinson can say these things.
|13 weeks 3 days ago||Why can't Michigan fans like||
Why can't Michigan fans like you just keep quiet? Why do Denard's comments bother you so much? Seriously, what is the problem? You think that since MSU has enjoyed a recent run of success that all comments should be reverent? That we should all treat MSU as an equal? Seriously, why do you care?
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Pollack||
That guy has MSU number 4 and Oregon at 7 at best (not listed).
Oregon is a 13 point favorite in a few weeks over Sparty. That is similar to the. Bama/UM line heading into 2012.
That seems as equally "out there" as Desmond's prediction.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Suck it up, little guy.||
Suck it up, little guy.
|14 weeks 3 days ago||Sit down||
I am not part of the down in front crowd, but standing the first ten minutes of the practice and stretching? WTF
|15 weeks 14 hours ago||Years ago||
We went through this years ago, turd.
I am not the hockey player.
|15 weeks 14 hours ago||This is me messing up some mundane detail...||
|15 weeks 20 hours ago||I saw that BTN interview too.||
It was good.
This recent Mattison piece, however, got me heigh.
The transition is over.
This is a Michigan defense.
He is really putting himself out on a limb here. A veteran coach doesn't do that lightly.
|15 weeks 1 day ago||Hello?||
"Given data limited to just seeing the product on the field last year and so far this year, I'd have fired Funk a while ago."
What have you seen on the field this year?
Did I miss the beginning of football season again?
How about this gem?
"The only consistency out of this group in the last two years has been Darrell Funk."
How about tons of youth? How about that? That seems like a constant between this upcoming year and last year.
Wait, I mean this current year that already began weeks ago.
Some of you guys are really really smart.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Hard to see?||
Will these be easier or harder to see in a night game?
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Token||
Dantonio always gets a token head to head recruiting win, but loses the rest. This actually seems like the least heralded token win yet.
|16 weeks 1 day ago||You mean like||
The "no fly zone"? Stupid names like that to try to give them an identity is better than a historical identity?
|16 weeks 1 day ago||No history||
They don't have the Legends history to talk about it. Instead Calhoun spent Big Ten media days talking about making up a name for his unit. He wants a swanky moniker to make them stick out. Similar to co-opting the term "no fly zone" in their secondary in previous years.
|16 weeks 1 day ago||Thanks||
Keep hurting my chances. I bet a lot of people ignored it.
|16 weeks 3 days ago||Post of the year||
This has to be nominated for worst post of the year:
|16 weeks 5 days ago||...||
|16 weeks 5 days ago||Not viable||
As I stated in my OP, in my opinion, it is not a viable complaint. I will reserve further comment since we are dealing with people who file claims I don't think are viable based on things said online.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||Yeah.||
I logged in to make this comment. He looks a lot shorter at first. But, then you look at the placement of his head against the words in the wall and he looks a lot taller. I just can't figure out the camera angle.
|24 weeks 6 days ago||What in the world||
Is wrong with your head?
|25 weeks 5 days ago||In the arms of an angel....||
...run away from here.
|25 weeks 6 days ago||Records are always hard to predict||
Michigan has a lot of home games it could win and three tough road games.
Regardless of how it does in the home games, it is really the three road games that are the most important. Those are Michigan's three biggest rivals and teams that Michigan lost at the last time the played.
So, let's focus on those games. Most people here are negative and can't predict success after ast year. There is almost a stigma with predicting success over Sparty in light of the terrible loss last year. But, those EMOTIONS aside, lets look at the reasons all three of those games are winable:
1. Notre Dame - Michigan has done well against them, even in the BCS NC game year. Michigan is not intimidated by South Bend (few are). Plus, this game is early in the season and that usually favors strong defensive teams. Based on how Michigan has played ND the last few years, I can't see this as anything other than a TOSS UP at worst.
2. MSU - Michigan fans are loath to predict success after thumping chests by neighbor Spartan fans after last year andthat team beating expectations. As a Michigan fan, in order to predict a win here you have to overcome a lot of negativity and misnomers as someone who is thinking of the Carr years. But, there are reasons other than nostalgia to project a potential win. MSU only has 5 guys back on defense and their OL is a bit of a question. MSU has typically enjoyed a down year after an up year. The only exception was 2010 to 2011, but 2010 was not an especially strong squad and wasnt a targeted team the next year. The up and down years may be because of recruiting or may be because of the difficulty of playing with a mark on your back. It would be shocking if they were able to be in position to contend for another B10 title given their departures.
3. OSU - The rograms seems to be in a weird spot. It has tons of telent. ut, it appears Meyer is finally undergoing transition strains. They have to rebuild their offensive line and they will be playing lots of young guys. Meyer's teams are always dangerous, but he generally starts strong at a school but doesn't stick around. Personally, I think he got a taste of how good life can be as a TV personality, but he missed the compeition of the game. he got that back and was re-invigorated for a bit. His recruiting efforts SEEM to indicate he is not as energetic as before. It is always hard to play in C-BUS and since this is the best coach and the most taleneted team Michigan plays, it will be the toughest of the three.
If the line gets better and the defense seems a normal increase in production from the experience and depth, you can see a scnario for winning each of these games. It is not likely, and its never likely to win all your games. But, I could easily see us winning the ND game and, if all goes well, the MSU game too. If we are in a position to win the OSU game it will either be because of a phenominal season or implosion by the Buckeyes.
|26 weeks 13 hours ago||Maybe||
Don ends up falling madly in love with Peggy. She turns him down because she is smart and knows he is damaged goods. He ends up in a spiral.
|26 weeks 15 hours ago||I was alive||
EDIT - The post I was responding to showed up on mobile, but appears to be goe now.
So, it resonates with me.
Plus, it happened as recently as 2006, were you alive then?
It has only been 15 years since our last national title. Don't pretend it was before the invention of sliced bread.
Regardless, we all talk about stuff that happened before we were born without thinking it is running out of milage. Did you celebrate Memorial Day by saying that all the people who did in war before you were born should not be "reminisced" because they were running out of mileage.
Your's was a stupid post on multiple fronts.
|26 weeks 1 day ago||Too literal||
I wouldn't think they would try to track one man so closely. I remember some talk about the ending being sad and showing the downfall of their ways. But, I am not sure who mentioned that (it was early in the series in a NPR interview with Terri Gross).
|26 weeks 1 day ago||I think...||
Personally, I think she figured out that Don confronted Lane about the embezzled funds and she blames Don for his death on some way.
|26 weeks 2 days ago||TV ratings||
Have nothing to do with quality. You know that,
|26 weeks 2 days ago||I think he's right.||
There is nothing "simply wrong" about his opinion. Other people share it and it's legit to have an opinion.
|27 weeks 2 days ago||Waiting||
Great stuff. And for some reason the negative group think with a big contingent of Michigan fans won't comment here. It is so easy to criticize a program (even as a fan), but so hard to be positive when you are getting heat from a couple rival fan bases for a bad season and recent transition seasons.
|27 weeks 5 days ago||Movie rights?||
It's sad, but I can't help but think that this guy or someone related t him will make money by selling the movie rights. This is the perfect story for Ben Affleck to use to showcase his Boston accent.
I hope he can't profit off his crime.
|27 weeks 5 days ago||Redemption?||
Wasn't Fargas seriously injured and then jumped on the depth chart here? Didn't hugest moved to safety?
I don't think We are owed any redemption from USC for that.
|28 weeks 2 days ago||No real difference||
Signing just means you are exclusive and they pay you 3-5K. Trying out with the team is very similar AFAIK
|28 weeks 5 days ago||Crown him.||
He is doing about as well a Hoke did his first year recruiting. Meanwhile, Hoke is on the hot seat a bit.
|29 weeks 4 days ago||Its Friday, so the title did this to me….||
|29 weeks 5 days ago||Thank god||
Brian's negativity and discontent is unbecoming for kids logging on to read about themselves.
|29 weeks 5 days ago||Not as many||
There are not as many optimists posting here. That is my guess. The negative nancies are out if full force after last year. The optimists are often to posting here because the it is like swimming up river I this environment. Remember Brian had to put on his optimist hat in a recent mailbag and it was done begrudgingly.
|29 weeks 5 days ago||Here?||
Is this where we get to log in and say something pessimistic?
|29 weeks 6 days ago||Were they banned for life?||
It seems that is the only just response to bigots for the NBA.
Please explain the difference to me.
|29 weeks 6 days ago||No doubt||
There seems little doubt Spike Lee is a racist. They won't ban him from the NBA though. They might ban him from tennis, golf or some other white sport though. That was Sterling's real problem in all this.
It has nothing to do with justice. It has everything to do with money.
|29 weeks 6 days ago||Maybe||
I don't think that would be the case though. I bet they find a way to let anything go, unless it hurts the bottom line.
|29 weeks 6 days ago||Good points.||
I agree, but I think it will be easy for the NBA to draw a line.
I think they won't do the exact same thing to owners with a history of misogyny, homophobia, religous hatred, etc.
The reason for this is simple. The NBA has a lot of black players and fans. It could be called a predominantly black sport. That is why this action was taken and other forms of bigotry are just ignored.
It's why Ozzie Guillen can get canned in South Florida for making a comment that was favorable to Castro. That is why professional golfers like Fuzzy Zoeller can mock minorities. Golf is a mainly white sport. That is why NASCAR drivers can be openly derogatory about women and Danica Patrick. It is a mainly white male sport.
This has little to do with what is "just" for a bigot and everything to do with money.
Shocking, I know.
|29 weeks 6 days ago||Sad||
Sterling is not indefensible just because he is a bigot. Things are not that black and white. Pun intended.
|30 weeks 1 day ago||Thank you||
What a horribly misleading stat that was to use. If you wouldn't have posted this I might have actually thought it had some merit.
|30 weeks 1 day ago||???||
That had nothing to do with my point. Are you trying to make a seperate point that Hoke took advantage of bad MSU and OSU teams?
Well how about the converse?
Dantonio has only ONE win against UM when UM had a winning conference record. The UM teams he beat had a combined B10 record of 15-25. Not inspiring....but the Spartans love him
Urban has beatn UM teams with acombined record of 9-7. A little more inspiring.
If you really want to compare Hoke to his counterparts at MSU and OSU, at least be fair about it. I get the sense you just don't want to be because someone hurt your feelings......awwww....
|30 weeks 1 day ago||Weird framing||
It is strange you chose 6 years and 10 years as time frames to look at the schools. You could have just said:
Hoke is 1-2 against both current head coaches. or
UM is 2-5 against Dantonio and 0-2 against Meyer.
But, you chose the question in a way to make it seem like we are in the same spot in the two rivalries. I guess that is what you wanted since you are tryingto make it seem like a hard decision.
For me, it is OSU, no doubt and there are a ton of reasons:
1. OSU will likely be the main contendor. MSU does not have the same consistency.
2. Hoke has not beaten Meyer.
3. Over the last ten years, MSU and UM are 5-5. OSU has killed us for a long time.
4. The world (and recruits) will notice more.
5. OSU came into Michigan stadium and beat UM. There is less payback for MSU since we just lost another road game. PLus, the way OSU beat us was infuriating.
|31 weeks 13 hours ago||You know little||
That is why I asked the question. N be seems to address it. The academic standards for undergrad may not be rigorous, but could be for grad school.
I firmly believe Michigan's standards for undergrad football players are the same as elsewhere. But, their standards for Juco players is clearly different. Who is to say that the grad student requirements are either the same as everyone or different?
I don't know and that s why I asked. You seem to assume, but you don't know.
|31 weeks 13 hours ago||No pretending||
No one is pretending. I just asked a question.
It is a legit question. Why have we never signed a grad student the ?
|31 weeks 15 hours ago||Really likely?||
What were the chanes he was going to be admitted here? I honestly don't know. I just know UM rarely can take JuCo transfers and hasn't had a grad player since....ever?
Not saying he wasn't allowed in to UM, just curious if that had ANYTHING to do with it? If you know....
|32 weeks 1 day ago||It's not a lie||
I am sorry if you call word choice a "politician" thing, is that supposed to mean it was a lie? It just wasn't a lie. I am sorry if you want him to offer up more information than requested, but that is a stupid thing to want. It would have been a bad choice to offer up more than that.
|32 weeks 1 day ago||I see a lot of questions people are glossing over||
Are people here trying to discuss a controversial subject without addressing some fundamental questions that need to be asked?
These things make this report virtually meaningless:
1. How are most sexual assaults dealt with? The police? It's not like the police are ignoring rape allegations at all. The university is just another place to lodge a complaint, but they are not an. Investigatory or police body. Their delay in meeting recommended time frames is annoying and a little troublesome, but not even close to an impediment to real justice for victims.
2. It is the student government report concerning their beliefs regarding public documents. Who cares?how uplifted is the student government to make an analysis? Is this similar to a Roundtable of college kids looking at documents and then issuing a finding? Do they have any idea how normal this is at schools? Do they know anything about evidence preservation and whether it is a concern? I just think a group of people specially unqualified means little. Maybe this is why their findings have basically been the same content as newspaper reports in general.
3. The real issue in all of this is how the school responds to sexual misconduct allegations. This student body, however, focused on Gibbons. It's newsworthy and they want to to seem active on it. It is sad that it takes the involvement of a FB player for a "task force" to be convened, but it symbolizes the important issue to them - football. They wouldn't have done this otherwise. What does that tell you?
4. With respect to Hoke's comments - we know he didn't come out and say all he knew. We know that was good for his own liability and for Gibbons. It was a smart move. People who think he should have said something know nothing about legal liability or privacy.... Let alone anything about being on a team and not airing other's dirty laundry for no reason.
You guys want to talk about rape allegations and the football program and whether it is even worth discussing seems Liston some of you.
|32 weeks 5 days ago||Speaking as a parent....||
I am a parent. So, speaking as a parent, I think that I would like my son to get paid for working hard and not to be exploited. Speaking as a parent, I feel these NCAA violations are similar to marijuana laws in that they serve no real purpose other than to protect certain industries that shouldn't need protection.
Speaking as a college football fan, though, I want my team to have the same shot at recruits. Either allow it or enforce the rules, but this B.S. of having rules on the books that are constantly violated without repercussions only hurts people like John Beilein who try to abide by the rules, no matter how stupid.
So, what is it? Get rid of the rules or actually police them for everyone? The worst answer is not to answer.
P.S. - Speaking as a parent, I do not want to "feelingsball you" and that sounds like some level of sexual assault anyway.
|34 weeks 2 days ago||It brings out...||
...the young nitwits who think you should build statutes for finishing fourth because it is hard to do. And the basketball recruits of that generation.
|34 weeks 2 days ago||Because they call it a region||
Instead of just calling it the quarterfinal round?
|34 weeks 2 days ago||I like that.||
If you want to commemorate a great, but not top achievement, don't give it the same treatment as top achievements.
|34 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah||
It has become common and you have to do it if others are doing it. It's kind of like RAWK muzak at football games... Even venerable Michigan does it, but it doesn't make it right. I can't wait for the race to the bottom when there are banners for making the sweet sixteen.
|34 weeks 2 days ago||Then why not||
Have a banner for finishing in the top five of the polls too
|34 weeks 2 days ago||It's a big deal.||
Just not something that should get equal footing with winning championships.
|34 weeks 2 days ago||Recognize?||
Yes. And celebrate. But to give it equal footing in the rafters with winning a championship diminishes the championship banners.
|34 weeks 2 days ago||Final fours are a big deal||
You can think that and still not think it is banner worthy. Simple as that. And, there should be no banners for winning the Citrus Bowl or Pinstripe Bowl.
|34 weeks 2 days ago||Michigan||
Has been in the big ten forever. How many seasons have they been in the Midwest region with Kentucky and Wofford?
|34 weeks 2 days ago||Finishing in the top five...||
... of the football polls is a similarly great feat. No banner for that though.
|34 weeks 2 days ago||The region?||
They put 16 teams in a made up division an you call that winning something? What if the didn't call it a regional and just played all the games at the same geographic site... because that is a a random as make believe "regions"
|34 weeks 2 days ago||I agree.||
Final fours are tough to get to, but that doesn't mean they are banner worthy. Finishing second or third in any sport is tough, no question about that. But, that is not a reason to have a trophy.
|34 weeks 2 days ago||No||
You can hang a banner to commemorate a 10 point win over a rival if you want to AFAIK.
|36 weeks 5 days ago||What?||
Is this referring to something in particular?
|38 weeks 4 days ago||Clearly||
You're not new here, so why do you act that way?
This site is clearly about the top picture.
Next you'll be asking....
1. Do we really care about punctuation and grammar so much or the thought behind comments?
2. Do we really want to be ones who make fun of other team's off field problems or just support all kids who play sports and go through stuggles?
3. Do we really hate Dave Brandon's commercialization or should we be supportive of the growing revenue helping our school and program?
What ever you think is the worse choice.... that is us.
|39 weeks 15 hours ago||How can you be a bottom line guy?||
You are jumping to a lot of conclusions to get to your bottom line, aren't you?
|39 weeks 18 hours ago||Silly man...||
The point is clearly that you ave to have patience to figure out if you have an Ellerbe or a Beilein.
|39 weeks 18 hours ago||ESPN?||
Those sentiments were echoed at ESPN, which considered the original piece well-founded, but maybe a little too harsh.
|39 weeks 4 days ago||Ask him....||
.... what Jaya Crowe saw on her visit and why he would yell at her.
|40 weeks 13 hours ago||How about....||
|40 weeks 5 days ago||Bad idea||
The equivalent of the Cowboy Classic instead of great home and home series?
|41 weeks 6 hours ago||In one way...||
They are all troubled kids who have their priorities mixed up off the field.
|41 weeks 8 hours ago||Nope.||
Ask Nussmeier about the Bama offer.
|41 weeks 8 hours ago||Excuses?||
He is saying the playing field with respect to the quality of player taken is uneven. How is that an excuse? Has Dantonio disciplined a kid or two? Yeah? Does he concern himself as much with taking kids who have big questions (Burbridge, Evans, Campbell, Eric.)? Nope.
|41 weeks 8 hours ago||Not to nit pick, but||
Not sure he was a "big time recruit." He had one big program offer in Notre Dame. I feel like you need at least a couple high profile offers to be a big time recruit.
|41 weeks 6 days ago||I don't think||
... this has anything to do with the value of a MSU degree. It is all about the friends he has at State.
|41 weeks 6 days ago||You are all kinds of||
|42 weeks 3 days ago||Hate to say it....||
... But you are a ----y.
|42 weeks 3 days ago||Really?||
He seems to like MSU and they have seven losses in the last two years.
|42 weeks 4 days ago||Why do people care about this?||
I love college sports and Michigan sports in particular. I am a die-hard. But, for the life of me, I can't figure out why people care about the apparel companies so much.
|42 weeks 5 days ago||Live in Metro Detroit?||
There is a store in Troy that can do it. In fact, any decal store can load a picture up and then he computer-based cutting machine will quickly cut the design (once size it determined).
|43 weeks 15 hours ago||Won't somebody think of the children!!!!!!||
How dare some people live life? We need to protect them from themselves!
|43 weeks 22 hours ago||Not upset.||
I think you just read anger into my post.
|43 weeks 1 day ago||Wut?||
Are you just making things up?
|43 weeks 1 day ago||Is this a troll?||
Missed out? How?
|43 weeks 1 day ago||Not to hijack, but...||
This makes me think of people who are bummed about the FB team this year.
|43 weeks 4 days ago||Live Feed||
Who hold a press conference to introduce a new President?
I bet Dave Brandon told the Regents to fire Mary Sueand hire this new person!!
- signed, MSUFanboy - Mike Valenti
|43 weeks 5 days ago||Official visit||
Ace, isn't the only way for McDowell to get tickets to the basketball game for him to visit "officially"? Not saying that the rest of the official visit won't affect him. But, don't you think that might be part of his motivation, even if he liked the Spartans?
|43 weeks 5 days ago||Hi guy!!||
I am a fan of the one site that ranks. Michigan's class the lowest by far.
Now, that site has been criticized as being focused on southern recruits, but I am wondering why ONE of. Hoke's three classes is so poorly rated by that service.
I mean I know RichRod had to have big classes and that he focused on Florida kids more than Midwest kids, but I want you to just ignore that and run with me here.......
|46 weeks 7 hours ago||Stop||
|46 weeks 9 hours ago||It's possible.||
I think it is more likely to be a ten or eleven win year than national title game though.
|46 weeks 3 days ago||Are we?||
It's hard totally sometimes. Lots of self loathing.
|46 weeks 3 days ago||This comment screams ignorance.||
First, Michigan football was a top national team before Woodson stepped foot on campus. It wasn't decades of futility like the BBall program.
|46 weeks 4 days ago||Already has...||
...professional team head coaching experience.
|46 weeks 4 days ago||What?||
Where did this come from??
|46 weeks 4 days ago||If not for...?||
If not for ND beating them? How do you not give credit to the team that won that game?
|46 weeks 4 days ago||I can deny it||
I can deny it because, well, we are just shooting the breeze here, right?
Football Study Hall says that between 2008-2013, Michigan is about 10th in producing top football recruits. Michigan is also about 10th in population.
Was the state ever a football producing juggernaut?
|46 weeks 4 days ago||Hockey||
There is NO WAY hockey is seen as being as violent as football. Sure,I know it is violent. I also know bicycling causes more concussions and deaths than football. But, the perception of football is that it is the worst thing your kids can do (speaking as a percent).
|46 weeks 4 days ago||Yeah, but||
The build up of the modest was based on people moving there for a better life with middle class wages.
|46 weeks 4 days ago||Since you brought it up....||
It is not the lack of jobs that is concerning to Midwest football. It is the lack of manual labor jobs that has an effect. Football is mostly affected by those families because they are the ones who let their kids play the reputably dangerous sport as opposed to others.
|46 weeks 5 days ago||Why would this year be any||
Different than last year? The top three teams haven't even played yet, so why is this being discussed now?
|47 weeks 5 days ago||I bet he is happy about starting.....||
|48 weeks 19 hours ago||Investigation?||
Lewan was in the area + Bucknuts allegations = an investigation.
|48 weeks 4 days ago||This one...||
...is WORSE than ours though. To wit:
1. Carr did not have many years of decline before leaving. Brown has had them in a rut for a while. So....
2. They can't take a flyer on a guy like RichRod to shake things up. They don't have the same cushion to try to turn it around. Remember when we were not too concerned over RichRod's first year because we wll knew he was a winner and had a system. We had patience because we had recently had some pretty solid seasons (06 and 07). We just wanted to beat OSU (we werent even thinking of MSU). We ended up being really impatient and cutting him off and re-booting everything.
Texas cant dick around like that. Oklahoma is already surging past them along with Baylor ad A&M. They are already getting passed on all sides before the search is even done.
3. The big money donors seem to be similar in their push for a SEC proven head coach (Saban and Miles). But, Texas' donors were more unrealistic. Saban had no ties. They just want to throw money at ANY big name it seems.
4. Michigan got an A+ list name in a guy who was maybe the hottest name and had just turned down Alabama the prior year. I don't think UT will find a guy with that cache.
|48 weeks 5 days ago||Do you think they stopped with this kid||
Because of recruiting two DL?
|48 weeks 5 days ago||Yeah.||
What does that tell us? They told him not to visit? They didn't even want him if a spot opened?
|48 weeks 5 days ago||Mentioned?||
One Yahoo article names Dantonio as a candidate for a bigger job. He never gets contacted, but is asked about the job.
|49 weeks 1 day ago||Not interested||
And I think they would have to remove the scoreboard.
|49 weeks 3 days ago||Who wouldn't be offended||
If ford had a kickstarter?
|49 weeks 3 days ago||Exactly||
This is dead on.
|49 weeks 3 days ago||Um...||
I pay for a magazine when I order HTTV.
|49 weeks 3 days ago||This is stupid IMO||
They do not need your donations.