this week in unintentionally grim-sounding recruiting headlines
|21 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah, that was awesome.||
Yeah, that was awesome.
|23 weeks 20 hours ago||The lack of taste was a huge||
The lack of taste was a huge issue. But it seems that DB left with no friends because he treated just about everyone as badly as he could get away with (and often he didn't get away with it--see those emails). That adds up to some species of bad person--surely something less than a parricide or rapist, but whether you'd say "piece of shit" or "asshole" is just splitting hairs.
|23 weeks 21 hours ago||His Philippics, I'd say.||
His Philippics, I'd say.
|32 weeks 18 hours ago||You think a guy pulling 8||
You think a guy pulling 8 mil. a year is worried about the cost of living?
|32 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah, this is some straight||
Yeah, this is some straight up grave dancin'.
|35 weeks 4 days ago||Dude, port is strictly for||
Dude, port is strictly for after dinner.
I mean, Go Blue!
|36 weeks 5 days ago||7 mil is a bad symbol, but 5||
7 mil is a bad symbol, but 5 is okay? Explain that, please.
|38 weeks 1 day ago||I live in Oakland and I love||
I live in Oakland and I love it. Great town, and much improved over the last 5-10 years. Not that JH would have to live here.
|41 weeks 4 days ago||I agree with just about all||
I agree with just about all of it in principle. But it's not written in a very professional way. Far too many exclamation points, just to start (like a 12-year-old's diary). If the authors want it to be taken seriously they should use a more formal style, whch could still convey the severity of the issue.
|41 weeks 5 days ago||"There's still a chance to||
"There's still a chance to save Hoke!"
|45 weeks 6 days ago||Forcing the defender to push||
Forcing the defender to push through you, and thus slowing him, certainly constitutes at least "a modicum of resistance."
|47 weeks 4 days ago||not on your life ...||
not on your life ...
|48 weeks 18 hours ago||Then what does Pam Ward have||
Then what does Pam Ward have to do with anything?
|49 weeks 17 hours ago||Shut up. You're far too||
Shut up. You're far too reasonable.
|49 weeks 6 days ago||Dude, that's a cardigan.||
Dude, that's a cardigan.
|1 year 13 weeks ago||I think what many of believe||
I think what many of believe is that by appealing to the die-hard, tradition-obsessed, quasi-purist crowd, the AD might build the "brand" in such a way as to make the experience more appealling to all. You can't compete with TV by being "better" in terms of the visuals and the convenience. You have to be different from TV, the NFL, etc. You have to cultivate what makes (or once made, if only in our imaginations) Michigan special.
It's sad that the sooges in charge of the AD are so tone-deaf that they can't about the "brand" except in narrow, short-sighted way.
|1 year 17 weeks ago||Okak, that could be so. Is||
Okak, that could be so. Is that common knowledge? And is that what the author of the post meant? In the context of this article, it seems like it should have some bearing on Fisher's coaching ability. Still not clear if it's supposed to be a credit or detriment to him.
|1 year 17 weeks ago||"In the aftermath Fisher||
"In the aftermath Fisher decided to take the team to Europe, an experience that was lost on his wards."
I found this a bit puzzling. Does it mean that it was a bad decision to take the trip? That the players didn't appreciate or profit from it? If so, why is that true? I recall Jalen speaking about the trip in the Fab Five documentary, but, if memory serves, he was positive about it, culture-shock notwithstanding.
|1 year 20 weeks ago||Isn't a recruit meeting||
Isn't a recruit meeting Charles Woodson some kind of NCAA violation?
|1 year 21 weeks ago||stream?||
|1 year 22 weeks ago||I agree. I think the rule||
I agree. I think the rule could make an impact because it would give defenses confidence that they could substitute as long as they did it in fewer than 10 secs. The fear of getting burned by a quick snap is lessened, if not removed. That certainty would, I assume, make it easier to practice for facing the hurry-up as well.
|1 year 23 weeks ago||Once the spacecraft had||
Once the spacecraft had landed, wouldn't it have been clear that a person could walk safely?
|1 year 23 weeks ago||Winning there is the best||
Winning there is the best response possible.
|1 year 32 weeks ago||Maybe not likely, but it||
Maybe not likely, but it would be fun to have Orgeron in the B1G.
|1 year 35 weeks ago||Wrong. If your team is bad it||
Wrong. If your team is bad it can't possibly get better for at least two decades. At least that's what I've been hearing lately.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||"the platonic ideal of your||
"the platonic ideal of your linebackers not understanding"
I don't think there can be a Platonic ideal (or any ideal) of a mistake or ignorance --that's deviation from the ideal.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||Wow, an excellent suggestion.||
Wow, an excellent suggestion. Does every bit of content need its own comment thread?
|1 year 47 weeks ago||NW looked decent||
The heat? You've obviously not spent any time in the Bay Area.
I saw the game and wasn't terribly impressed with NW, though they do have some speedy guys. Game could have gone to Cal quite easily.
|1 year 47 weeks ago||And delicious cake is||
And delicious cake is delicious. I didn't like the phrasing - just one man's opinion. Carry on.
|1 year 47 weeks ago||"Life decays us all" I don't||
"Life decays us all"
I don't think "decay" is a transitive verb. Otherwise, pretty good.
|1 year 48 weeks ago||Wow, that was incoherent.||
Wow, that was incoherent.
|1 year 51 weeks ago||What about "matriculating||
What about "matriculating down the field," Mr Webster?
|1 year 51 weeks ago||Come on, people. Sharknado is||
Come on, people. Sharknado is so ten days ago.
|2 years 2 weeks ago||I don't get it: isn't that a||
I don't get it: isn't that a picture of Mitch?
|2 years 2 weeks ago||Yeah, but can someone explain||
Yeah, but can someone explain why Webb thinks McGary literally looks like a million dollars?
|2 years 12 weeks ago||He actually has a job now,||
He actually has a job now, which those who read the whole article know.
|2 years 12 weeks ago||[double post]||
|2 years 12 weeks ago||I don't see how this can||
I don't see how this can inspire strong feelings either way.
|2 years 15 weeks ago||If you can't laugh a bit at||
If you can't laugh a bit at sports-induced sadness (including your own), then you might be taking it all too seriously.
|2 years 15 weeks ago||So you're saying that Zeller||
So you're saying that Zeller and Oladipo have ruined their program?
|2 years 15 weeks ago||Well said.||
|2 years 15 weeks ago||Yeah, it's a real shame we||
Yeah, it's a real shame we won't get to read what surely would have been a thoughtful, well-researched look into the season, definitely not a slapdash, opportunisitic hack-job.
|2 years 16 weeks ago||I think he's referring to||
I think he's referring to dirty recruiting by UM at the beginning of his tenure, the tail end of the Ed Martin era - there may have been some overlap.
|2 years 22 weeks ago||If you're going to keep the||
If you're going to keep the French thing going, "Jacques, the otter of elan" would have been nice.
|2 years 25 weeks ago||It's Jorge Luis Borges, not||
It's Jorge Luis Borges, not Jose.
|2 years 27 weeks ago||You know, now that I think||
You know, now that I think about it, I'm not sure that leprechaun is real either.
|2 years 31 weeks ago||in the community, too.||
in the community, too.
|2 years 32 weeks ago||*Serve* (vocative)||
|2 years 32 weeks ago||Is it me, or does Hoke have a||
Is it me, or does Hoke have a bit of Roy Orbison in him, at least in that last image.
|2 years 32 weeks ago||It's a bit dubious to appoint||
It's a bit dubious to appoint yourself to a job that comes with a substantial cash bonus. In other words, it's a big deal if you suspect the decision is not in the interests of Wisconsin football but rather of Barry's bank account.
I don't really have a problem with it (not that I care at all), but it's conceivable that some would.
|2 years 33 weeks ago||At least it's an ethos.||
At least it's an ethos.
|2 years 33 weeks ago||Aren't those elephant seals?||
Aren't those elephant seals? Totally different proclivities, man.
|2 years 35 weeks ago||Alii (or alia, alios,||
Alii (or alia, alios, depending on context)
|2 years 35 weeks ago||Agreed. I don't see how more||
Agreed. I don't see how more $ improves the "product" for the fan, or for the student-athlete. I don't see schools like Purdue or Minn forking over more cash for better coaches, though it's possible. Michigan already has just about everything money can buy. You know they won't lover ticket prices.
I hope they get the stipend/compensation thing for the players going. That's the only legitimate place for more money to go.
|2 years 36 weeks ago||That is somewhat informative,||
That is somewhat informative, though underwhelming. It sounds like most of the collective action under the aegis of the CIC is administrative and logistical - stuff that saves money and creates conveniences. That explains why Maryland, say, would want to join. But there's surely a point of dimishing returns for those already in, unless the Rutgers ilbrary system has a lot of stuff that isn't in the amassed collections of the current membership, or Maryland happens to come up with some nifty way of saving money on light bulbs.
|2 years 36 weeks ago||For a moment, I'll entertain||
For a moment, I'll entertain the notion that academic considerations played a significant role in this move.
Now, will someone explain to me how exactly current institutions benefit from adding additional members, even one with large research budgets? Does the CIC or some other entity pool that money and share it out? I doubt that, but I'm not sure. And if that were true it would hurt schools like UM that bring in much more than the others. Don't individual researchers (read, faculty) have to propose projects and fight for funding anyway?
So how do UM, OSU, Wisconsin, etc. benefit, in terms of research or academics, from having this new association with Rutgers and Maryland? I don't think they're all sharing the wealth, but if someone knows, please fill me in. Perhaps it encourages cooperation, but there was nothing really hindering that before. When looking for collaborators, academics tend to go to their discipline, their professional associations - not to Big Ten media days.
If it's more general than that, I'll just say that prestige is not concrete, it's not something you can add up. Adding ND or Duke might conceivably add prestige that wasn't there, since those schools have a lot of cachet, but adding a merely respectable institution like Mayland can't do anything but water down the overal academic standing of the conference - as though anyone cares about the average ranking or endowment of the Big Ten institutions. Seriously, to whom and in what circustances could the academic standing of a conference matter? Students don't apply to conferences. Professors don't accept positions from conferences. And, unless I'm mistaken, research grants are not awarded to conferences - they're awarded to researchers.
Ultimately, as a fan I'm disgusted because I don't see that this adds anything of value to me (or to the players, for that matter). I hope we start paying them - that's the only legitimate use of all this extra cash.
|2 years 48 weeks ago||Thanks. You are a gentleman||
Thanks. You are a gentleman and a true wit. I salute you.
|2 years 48 weeks ago||Any tips for||
Any tips for Oakland/Berkeley?
(also new to area)
|2 years 51 weeks ago||I belive some of the national||
I belive some of the national services only rank a school's top 20 (or 22 or 24) players. That makes a lot of sense to me, even if it's still only a rough indication. But capping it that way doesn't "reward" a school for racking up 3 stars (after a certain point, more is not necessarily better); or, to look at it another way, if you stop at 22 you don't "penalize" for adding depth (or kickers) to an already strong group - say, if Michigan adds a 2-star sleeper on signing day, does that make their class worse?
|3 years 11 weeks ago||Aren't coaches responsible||
Aren't coaches responsible for doing their own scouting? Or should they just rely on Rivals and Scout?
It would have been nice if our coaches had spotted Hankins's potential.
|3 years 12 weeks ago||Hawk's tears are like candy||
Hawk's tears are like candy to me.
|3 years 14 weeks ago||Someone get it in the Hall of||
Someone get it in the Hall of Fame, NOW.
|3 years 15 weeks ago||As I understood Hayes' story,||
As I understood Hayes' story, the "circle of trust" meant players who could get away with bending the rules. In those screen caps, Urban appears to use it to refer to players he can rely on to perform on the field. So, even if he did use the phrase "circle of trust" that does not itself corroborate the accustations Hayes reported.
In other words, this is nothing. Not that I have any love for Urban or OSU. It is interesting that the media is starting to get after him.
|3 years 16 weeks ago||Notice also that they play in||
Notice also that they play in Ohio stadium. And the script Ohio (no state) is one of their major traditions. And their dumbass fans love doing that "O-H" ... "I-O" thing.
So they call themselves "Ohio" much of the time.
|3 years 18 weeks ago||I belive they're dead. So||
I belive they're dead.
So Oregon is probably recruiting them hardest.
|3 years 18 weeks ago||Who's "they"?||
|3 years 20 weeks ago||It's March.||
|3 years 20 weeks ago||Yes, because one comparison||
Yes, because one comparison was actually made and the other was not. If anyone had actually compared the scandal to the holocaust, I agree that would be absurd. What we are talking about is strategies for responding to disagreeable history, not the history itself.
|3 years 21 weeks ago||I don't think a banner||
I don't think a banner confronts the complex and partially ugly truth of the Fab Five era and its legacy. To compare hanging a banner to the extensive and thoughtful efforts made by the Germans to deal with the Nazi era is ridiculous.
But Michigan should make some comparable effort to remember what happened without whitewashing the damage done to the basketball program and the university - but just putting the banners back up doesn't cut it.
|3 years 22 weeks ago||co-signed||
|3 years 22 weeks ago||So typical: what we did was||
So typical: what we did was wrong but I posit that everyone does it, so it's okay.
|3 years 22 weeks ago||Brady Hoke, master of||
Brady Hoke, master of praeterition. He's just full of surprises.
|3 years 22 weeks ago||Fair enough. I didn't mean||
Fair enough. I didn't mean that the difference btw M and OSU was vast, necessarily. Just that the perception of the difference is significant, even if you think that M and OSU students "learn" the same things.
|3 years 22 weeks ago||Right. All the deep musings||
Right. All the deep musings aside, a Mich degree is worth more than an OSU degree because people think that a Mich degree is worth more than an OSU degree.
More could be said, but that's the essence of it: there's a high degree of overlap between perception and reality when it comes to what an education is worth.
|3 years 24 weeks ago||Where are the Snowdens of||
Where are the Snowdens of yesteryear?
|3 years 25 weeks ago||Yeah. The implosion at Penn||
Yeah. The implosion at Penn State is kind of screwing us as far as the balance of power in the divisions goes. We deal with Neb and MSU, which is pretty strong right now. Ohio only really has to worry about Wisco.
|3 years 25 weeks ago||Agreed. If convincing a||
Agreed. If convincing a recruit to choose your school over another is sleazy, then all recruiting is by definition sleazy. Whether the kid has made a non-binding verbal commitment is irrelevant.
|3 years 25 weeks ago||Has anyone pointed out to OSU||
Has anyone pointed out to OSU fans that they call themselves "Ohio" pretty often? They play in Ohio Stadium, they do the "script Ohio" and that goddamn "O-H-I-O" thing ... if anything, they should welcome it.
|3 years 26 weeks ago||But, but, he has NUMBERS and||
But, but, he has NUMBERS and a CHART, so he must be right, right?
|3 years 26 weeks ago||Damn. Now Hoke's relationship||
Damn. Now Hoke's relationship with the Harmon mafia will deterioriate. Hello chaos.
|3 years 27 weeks ago||Perhaps you are||
Perhaps you are overestimating the powers of the timeout? Timeouts don't score baskets or play defense. And there's a lot more to coaching than calling timeouts.
|3 years 27 weeks ago||Spartan tears taste ... you||
Spartan tears taste ...
you know the rest
|3 years 27 weeks ago||Is that photo on the left one||
Is that photo on the left one of the dorms at State?
|3 years 28 weeks ago||Doesn't have to be Rose Bowl||
Doesn't have to be Rose Bowl with new B1G-Pac12 scheduling arrangement.
|3 years 28 weeks ago||Good admissions test: if you||
Good admissions test: if you can do that, you'll probably make a good lawyer
|3 years 29 weeks ago||Right on. Props to Gibbons to||
Right on. Props to Gibbons to earning his scholly in a big way this year: he was a major asset to the team.
|3 years 32 weeks ago||Tremendous.||
|3 years 32 weeks ago||My point was not in favor of||
My point was not in favor of casual use of the word "nazi." My point was that you were being a prig, and we don't need you to tell us that the Nazis were evil.
|3 years 32 weeks ago||Man, get off your high horse.||
Man, get off your high horse. You don't have to like it, but "nazi" is used that way pretty often (ever heard of the Soup Nazi?), and that's generally deemed acceptable. It doesn't mean that anyone doesn't know how evil the real Nazis were.
|3 years 32 weeks ago||Chitown is right. Even if||
Chitown is right. Even if Bacon's book is the God's honest truth, the Club is not obligated to hear him talk about it. Nor does deciding not to listen to him constitute a denial of the book's credibility. So all of Sec 1's bloviating about veritas is just empty rhetoric.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||UNACCEPTABLE||
|3 years 36 weeks ago||Before they hired Kill there||
Before they hired Kill there was talk of Hoke as a candidate for Minny - I think that's what the post is about, the "might-have-beens."
|3 years 37 weeks ago||Nice. Just when I thought it||
Nice. Just when I thought it wasn't possible to be MORE OUTRAGED you expressed FURTHER OUTRAGE by not capitalizing his name. Kudos.
Now who can do better?
|3 years 37 weeks ago||While some of the flak you're||
While some of the flak you're getting is deserved, I think you have a reasonable point: there is something recognizably human in the colossal, protracted, catastrophic "mistake" Paterno made. Perhaps he found it difficult to believe such terrrible things of a man he knew and trusted. He may have deceived himself into thinking that he had done his duty, that it was up to the University to go further, that he was too closely involved. He may have been afraid for himself and the institutions he had built up.
Point is, Paterno is and remains human, that is, his actions are intelligible, and I think most of us can imagine making mistakes of a similar type.
However, the particulars matter. In this case, the consequences are among the most heinous imaginable. And the power and respect Paterno enjoyed mean he could have easily averted much of it. Life is a "results-based charting service," so to speak. The punishment, in the form of lost admiration and respect if nothing else, have to match the gravity of the specifics of Paterno's offenses. I myself am not prepared, though, to say that Paterno is now or ever was a monster. I know he has done and still has the capacity to do good, which makes what has transpired all the more tragic and baffling.
|3 years 39 weeks ago||If you are conserving||
If you are conserving traditions that are unique, then it is, in effect.
By your reasoning innovation is not unique because lots of people have innovated - the content matters.
|3 years 39 weeks ago||I too love a good rye grin:||
I too love a good rye grin: welcome change from your everyday wheat or corn grins.
|3 years 40 weeks ago||And if either team has a shot||
And if either team has a shot at getting into the championship game, that first game will mean something.
|3 years 40 weeks ago||Thanks. But now you're||
Thanks. But now you're resorting to demeaning me to imply that you've won the argument ... that that it was an argument that anyone was really going to win - we're all special, really.
Who you got in a beauty contest between Al and Winston?
|3 years 40 weeks ago||Well, I don't see any||
Well, I don't see any "evidence" anywhere - we're all just sharing personal perspectives and anecdotes ... you're just choosing to call some "evidence" or "arugments." No one, you included, has proved anything in this Internet forum discussion. And just saying that some one has proved your point doesn't make it so. Calling someone naive doesn't make that person wrong.
And again, just because similar "bullshit" is involved in all institutions, that doesn't mean that they don't also have distinguishing characteristics that may be more important. Your "arguments" are lazy sleight of hand.
We'll just have to disagree. But you haven't proven anything.
|3 years 40 weeks ago||Note that he's not a||
Note that he's not a professor and not technically protected by tenure or anything like that. In my understanding, lecturers are hired on a class-by-class basis (at least I was when I was one).
|3 years 40 weeks ago||It's rather facile to point||
It's rather facile to point out certain characteristics shared by all organizations as if that proves that they're all the same. Whatever its flaws, the principle of academic freedom is largely unique to academia. It's what makes it very unlikely that Bacon will lose his teaching job because he wrote a book that might be considered detrimental to the institution - it would look really bad in light of the notion of academic freedom, and it would give fuel to detractors who would like to claim that the Athletic Dept and its money corrupt the University's intellectual values.
|3 years 40 weeks ago||If only "smug" were an option||
If only "smug" were an option under the 'moderate' tab: then we could let you know how you're doing.
|3 years 41 weeks ago||We're no more or less||
We're no more or less superior than we were yesterday. The infuriating thing about Sparty is that they just EXPECT that a) Mich fans/alums think they're better and b) that MUST change because of the result of a football game.
Attention everyone: we are all just as decent (or despicable) as we were yesterday. Michigan is still a great institution, it's great to be a Wolverine.
Is it great to be a Spartan? I don't know, I don't know anything about that. But if it is, it shouldn't hinge on one game.
|3 years 41 weeks ago||Yeah, that's bizzare. I don't||
Yeah, that's bizzare. I don't know what the hell he means.
It's clear that Dantonio has whipped that entire program into foaming-at-the mouth hatred for Michigan ... which seems to be pretty effective. Perhaps it demands respect, but not admiration.
|3 years 41 weeks ago||Cutler had no choice but||
Cutler had no choice but throw off the back foot: Suh and co. were coming to eat his soul.
I do think Denard makes some good throws on the move, but not falling back with a defender in his face.
|3 years 41 weeks ago||As reading that shows, their||
As reading that shows, their inferiority complex has a large dash of persecution complex to go with it.
|3 years 42 weeks ago||Fair, but everything I know||
Fair, but everything I know about Bacon makes him credible to me - he's not just some Internet poster or MSM hack.
|3 years 42 weeks ago||WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO||
That is all.
|3 years 42 weeks ago||Dan Quayle, is that you?||
Dan Quayle, is that you?
|3 years 45 weeks ago||Well, according to your||
Well, according to your numbers Notre Dame draws less money than any existing member. If they join, I don't think it would hurt Michigan and other schools, since I'm pretty sure there's no research funding being shuffled around. ND is relatively small and therefore not drawing megabucks, but they have prestigious faculty, so I think the 'networking' aspect of things would be enhanced.
I guess my point is that I'm not sure the raw total of research $ is highly relevant to expansion.
|3 years 45 weeks ago||Question||
I don't know a lot about how the CIC works. Is it really to the meaningful advantage of the existing B1G schools to go for the biggest research spender? Sports revenue (bowls, TV, etc.) are evenly redistributed among the members, but there is no such mechanism for resesarch money, yes? Spreading it around would be counterproductive, except perhaps in cases of direct collaboration between one or more school. I know the CIC promotes cooperation and sharing of some resources, but how far does it go?
|3 years 50 weeks ago||I think Brian and others only||
I think Brian and others only dislike Hoke's talk because they fear it might translate into bad tactics (i.e., play-calling). If that's not true (as this post suggests), I doubt many people will have any problem with the way Hoke talks - the recruits sure like it.
|3 years 50 weeks ago||Yes, it's good to test and||
Yes, it's good to test and revise a viewpoint. But I think all readers of this blog know that "MANBALL" is, or has become, something other than a dispassionate, discursive hypothesis - somehting like 'Hoke's teams run on 1st down more than 55% of the time.'
Even if Brian didn't intend it, MANBALL has risen into the realm of ideas. It is worth asking if the idea meaningfully exists. If it has little basis in reality, why make it the basis of a hypothesis at all?
|3 years 50 weeks ago||You have a point, but there's||
You have a point, but there's no need to be an a$$hole about it.
But it does seem as though Brian is trying to prove or disprove the existence of something he invented, or inferred from Hoke's comments, personality, etc.
If Manball is anything, it's just Hoke's attitude, philosophy, strategy in broad terms. We shouldn't confuse that with game-time tactics, which are mostly under Borges' control anyway.
|3 years 51 weeks ago||Shorter version: By most||
By most tangible criteria - wins, attendance, etc. - Mich is among the best, if not the best, in all college football. Maybe everyone else should dump their mascots.
|4 years 13 hours ago||Way to fight the good fight,||
Way to fight the good fight, bro.
|4 years 1 day ago||I see. I was thinking of this||
I see. I was thinking of this in the context of the various ideas out there to sweeten the deal for D-1 football players. I'm not sure it's a good idea for all sports.
The scenario you describe could occur under the current system - lots of players play for five years (if there's a red-shirt in there). The "great RB" would be no less great, since he would develop physically as much or more without playing his freshman year. Players with exceptional ability would no doubt jump to the NFL after three or four years with just about the same frequency as they do now. Playing more football always means more risk. There's also a certain kind of risk for players in the current system who forego the red-shirt because they want to get to the NFL asap, but don't develop pro potential; then they only have 4 years of school to get a degree.
Maybe the simplest thing is just to say that everyone gets five years of eligibility - junk the red-shirt concept, except perhaps for serious injury.
|4 years 1 day ago||Well, we're talkng about||
Well, we're talkng about football players who get a full-ride. Maybe they could add a minor, a second major, graduate credits, or just take classes they like, or just worry about playing and nailing co-eds. I don't see how anyone could object to having the option of a free year of college.
|4 years 1 day ago||Um, I don't think anyone||
Um, I don't think anyone would be forced to stay for that fifth year, but how much can anyone object to the prospect of a free year of college? If I had known I could have gone to college for five years for free, I think I would have glady taken that extra year and put it to good use.
|4 years 1 day ago||Well, he wasn't asked why||
Well, he wasn't asked why whites defeated the natives. He was asked if he used a bow or gun for hunting deer. There was no reason to bring up the whole whites-indians conflict, which is a pretty ugly, painful part of the country's history - it's best to not to bring it up frivolously, as opposed to having a serious discussion about it.
Just poor judgment on his part, not necessarily racism or malice.
|4 years 1 day ago||Those arguments make little||
Those arguments make little sense. New coaches would just have to work with the players on the roster - which would be better for those players. And I don't think any coach should recruit players he doesn't think can handle the school just in hopes of getting a good year out of them beore they flunk out.
As others have said, if it were NCAA-wide, if all players got 4 years eligibility after the first year, and if you raised the scholly limit by 10 or 15, this would be good for the players.
|4 years 2 days ago||That raises an interesting||
That raises an interesting question: which is the best team on our schedule? I think it's tough to say. Maybe OSU if they get everything straightened out, maybe ND, maybe even MSU. Nebraska on paper looks best to me, though, yet they could have issues.
I don't see an elite, unbeatable team there. Several with good potential and likely to be better than Mich, but it's hard to say.
|4 years 2 days ago||Nailed it ...||
"The best summary of a Brady Hoke speaking engagement is to imagine Lloyd Carr using a gigantic Matt Foley puppet to address the media."
|4 years 3 weeks ago||I suspect that the Plain||
I suspect that the Plain Dealer is in error here. I know, it's shocking to think that a professional newspaper could have screwed up.
I think the loss counts, and no other team's records are affected.
|4 years 3 weeks ago||Great. Good thing we got this||
Great. Good thing we got this thread started about 14 hours before the announcement. Not a moment too soon.
|4 years 3 weeks ago||Dork? The man's personal||
Dork? The man's personal style is questionable, but he's hardly a dork. I love his radio show, btw.
|4 years 4 weeks ago||There are many important||
There are many important things we can rightly judge to not be appropriate for this board. Get off your high horse.
|4 years 5 weeks ago||Jejune ... yet ... still||
Jejune ... yet ... still winning. Kudos.
|4 years 5 weeks ago||Yes. Restraint is a virtue||
Yes. Restraint is a virtue that has been killed by the internet, etc. Sad, but the way of things now.
|4 years 5 weeks ago||I think the implication is||
I think the implication is possibly quite different. A lack of values implicates the entire OSU community, not just a few individuals, unless you think he meant a few players or employees who had their own, faulty values. But he could have meant that those who broke rules or violated procedures reflect the values of a broader community that has come to prize winning above all else and at any cost, and thinks the rules shouldn't get in the way.
If that's what he meant, it is significant, even if it doesn't have any bearing on their case with the NCAA.
|4 years 5 weeks ago||The avatar is quite lame ...||
The avatar is quite lame ... but do we have rules about avatars?
|4 years 6 weeks ago||Cool||
[how's that for dry wit?]
|4 years 7 weeks ago||Sorry, guys. I haz shame.||
Sorry, guys. I haz shame. This definitely deserves more negs than "I am at a wedding."
|4 years 7 weeks ago||For something concocted by a||
For something concocted by a shoe company for the sake of squeezing more money out of a one-off event, these are about as good as you could hope for.
A part of me still wishes we were above that, though. Oh well ...
|4 years 7 weeks ago||Krom, too.||
|4 years 8 weeks ago||Horace Prettyman doesn't||
Horace Prettyman doesn't approve.
|4 years 8 weeks ago||Yes he's famous, but some||
Yes he's famous, but some would say "infamous." This is going to turn into a debate on assisted suicide, which is worth having, but not here because it has a strong political dimension and angries up the blood.
But I agree with this much: Kevorkian is a significant Wolverine and his life and beliefs are important, for better or worse.
|4 years 9 weeks ago||Do you exclude the use of||
Do you exclude the use of pronouns from syntax? Me do not agree.
|4 years 9 weeks ago||Fair points. But I'm not sure||
Fair points. But I'm not sure that we're at the optimal place on the curve as of now.
Also, you don't address what's really interesting about what Delany's been saying. As Brian is picking up on, I think Delany's the first official-type person to suggest that parity, level-playing-field, "the product," etc. should be a lower priority than giving athletes a bigger share of the pie for the sake of their well-being and fairness. Of course, there's an element of self-interest, too. But Delany's taking the debate in a new direction, which is interesting.
|4 years 10 weeks ago||I think 'ringers' is the term||
I think 'ringers' is the term we're looking for. The eligibility rules weren't too strict back then, I believe.
|4 years 10 weeks ago||That makes sense, but they||
That makes sense, but they tried it with John L. Smith.
|4 years 11 weeks ago||Speaking of Pistons, we had||
Speaking of Pistons, we had the Worm, the Spider, the Microwave.
|4 years 13 weeks ago||Nice. Really nice. Funny AND||
Nice. Really nice. Funny AND insightful.
|4 years 14 weeks ago||If he can't kick here, he||
If he can't kick here, he can't kick anywhere else. He should stay and get a UM degree.
|4 years 14 weeks ago||I too have no doubt she was||
I too have no doubt she was very satisfied with it.
|4 years 14 weeks ago||Yeah, the story in its bare||
Yeah, the story in its bare essentials could have made for a good read. But making your novel 5 times longer than it ought to have been counts as shitty writing in my view.
|4 years 14 weeks ago||It's a shitty novel, in my||
It's a shitty novel, in my opinion. Even if you like her philosophy/politics, the story is melodramatic and way, way too long.
|4 years 14 weeks ago||Dicey. But in his defense, in||
Dicey. But in his defense, in doing research for my PhD I've found that figuring out which parts of a book are important and skipping the rest is a very valuable skill.
|4 years 14 weeks ago||How about responding to the||
How about responding to the substance of the post --you know, the stuff Brian put a lot of thought into, rather than a tag, which is just about meaningless?
As a sde note, it's become impossible to like or support Braylon Edwards for me, and that's sad. He thinks he's representing the University well but he's so wrong. I wish he'd just stop talking.
|4 years 17 weeks ago||Your analogy is not bad. I'm||
Your analogy is not bad. I'm a PhD student in a Humanities field, and it has occurred to me but I drew a different conclusion. NCAA athletes aren't so different from us, they generate $ or provide services but are under-compensated. Grad students accept that because the degree and experience they get are worth the short-term sacrifice. The student-athlete's situation is not unique - grad students, interns, medical residents, etc. all take apprentice-type positions that pay poorly for a deferred benefit. That's life. If they can find a better deal, they should take it. Propose a better, feasible system? We should listen. But I get tired of hearing about the plight of the poor, exploited athletes as if it's some unique injustice.
|4 years 17 weeks ago||You make it sound like the||
You make it sound like the "black inner-city" kids have cash BEFORE they go to college that the school takes from them and hands to the white scoccer and lacross players. Whatever inequities exist in the system, it is not a matter of redistributing existing wealth. The wealth in question is generated by the concerted efforts of the athletes and the universites. Or do you think, say, Denard or Darius Morris could generate a sizable amount of cash without being U-M, Big Ten athletes? Maybe in a few years, but not straight out of high school. It's more an issue of (arguably) inequitable compensation, since Denard and your typical golfer or softball player get "paid" the same for work that could be valued very differently.
|4 years 17 weeks ago||God, I hope this is a||
God, I hope this is a joke.
But the way this diary is flying over people's heads is dismaying.
|4 years 17 weeks ago||Your point is trivial unless||
Your point is trivial unless you're willing to re-evaluate the subjective decision-making process based on the actual performance of every team that seriously over- or under-performs expectations AND, as a result, that you are able to articulate how the process should be altered.
So, to take the case of VCU, where did the committee go wrong? What factor should have been more heavily weighed? Which factors less? New criteria to be included? Some to exclude?
Without answers, you just have to say they made the best (or at least a defensible) decision with the available data. VCU's run is simply improbable, but the improbable happens sometimes - doesn't mean that everything you thought you knew was wrong.
|4 years 18 weeks ago||At first I thought this was a||
At first I thought this was a snarky parody of high-falutin, academic jargon. Maybe it is, but it might be right too.
|4 years 19 weeks ago||To put it another way, the||
To put it another way, the regrettable and shameful fact that people wrote hateful, racist letters to and about the Fab Five has no bearing on whether Webber's actions were right or wrong and whether he ought to aplogize for them.
Virtutally everything in Goodwill's piece was similarly irrelevant. When I saw it last night, I would have bet anything that Brian was going to fisk it.
|4 years 19 weeks ago||I thought Hill's piece held||
I thought Hill's piece held together well until about half-way through, when it turned into a promotion for Duke Univeristy and a lot of platitudes and fluff about eduction being valuable - true but besides the point. He could have made his point without seeming so sanctimonious.
|4 years 21 weeks ago||Someone should keep this guy||
Someone should keep this guy away from Twitter. His remarks come off as juvenile and bush-league ... not a good way to represent a Big 10 AD.
|4 years 24 weeks ago||I was at U-M for a while and||
I was at U-M for a while and I think I remember seeing a few girls through the daily blinding snowsorms.
|4 years 24 weeks ago||Well, in my defense, the||
Well, in my defense, the point of the thread, per the OP, was Freep is anti-UM. The article isn't anti-UM, unless you try really hard to (mis)read it that way. I'm glad that a few people see it my way (if I'm reading those comments correctly).
|4 years 24 weeks ago||Sorry. Didn't mean to reply||
Sorry. Didn't mean to reply to you specifcally, just a general comment on the thread.
|4 years 24 weeks ago||Exactly right. Reading||
Exactly right, Tom. Reading comprehension is an amazing thing.
|4 years 24 weeks ago||Sorry to break up the||
Sorry to break up the hate-fest, but it's not an especially negative article. It's not derogatory or virtriolic. It just finds a (silly, trivial) way of putting a negative spin on a good win. In other words, it's a waste of everyone's time to post crap like this, pretend it's way worse than it is, and get all indignant.
|4 years 25 weeks ago||Look out||
|4 years 28 weeks ago||Right behind an unnecessary||
Right behind an unnecessary comma.
|4 years 29 weeks ago||Ha! How true.||
Ha! How true.
|4 years 31 weeks ago||Do you think Desmond was||
Do you think Desmond was maybe being a bit diplomatic? You know, instead of saying that the old facilities and strength coaches sucked balls?
|4 years 31 weeks ago||Fair point, but there's no||
Fair point, but there's no way to know that. And I think Tressel's not bad in that department. At the very least, he's a good model to follow for bland, inoffensive public comments - Pryor should try to imitate his coach.
|4 years 31 weeks ago||So Pryor made the right||
So Pryor made the right decision? Michigan wasn't right for him, nor he for Michigan. Let's just leave it at that. I'm sure there are at least a few guys on our team who are less than exemplary in the character department (not Denard, of course, he's dreamy).
|4 years 32 weeks ago||I've attended both schools:||
I've attended both schools: anyone who argues that U of C is, all and all, a superior (to ALL the Big Ten schools) institution academically is not wrong - not that quitting Big Ten football made them any better in that regard.
|4 years 34 weeks ago||Shannon's not taking a DC job||
Shannon's not taking a DC job if he can be a head coach - the money is pretty much irrelevant if Minny (or someone else) wants him.
|4 years 34 weeks ago||Tessio had it coming. He knew||
Tessio had it coming. He knew the rules.
|4 years 34 weeks ago||That is a good point. I think||
That is a good point. I think a lot of people want RR gone because they're mad about the losses. But there's no sense in firing him to "punish" him for what's happened. Of course, past results should be used in any evaluation, but the key thing is if you (that is, Brandon) think he can make the program successful in the near future.
|4 years 35 weeks ago||Yeah, I'm feeling more like||
Yeah, I'm feeling more like Cato at Utica:
victrix causa deis placuit sed victa Catoni
|4 years 35 weeks ago||This is not that hard to||
This is not that hard to understand. Chop blocks, like grabbing the facemask, horsecollar tackles, helmet-to-helmet, etc, are illegal, and thus draw personal fouls, because they present a real and unnecessary risk to the players. Sometimes they happen inadvertently in the course of play, which is regrettable. But it's really dubious for a coach to instruct a player to intentionally commit that kind of penalty. If that's what Bielema did, it's highly unsportsmanlike, dirty, and whatever else you want to call it. I'd be upset if Michigan's coach did that or even implied that he had.
|4 years 35 weeks ago||Yeah, words are hard.||
Yeah, words are hard.
|4 years 39 weeks ago||You're right. The turnovers||
Princeton is right. The turnovers and special teams gaffes put Iowa on short fields all day; as a result, they didn't have to gain many yards to score. Sadly, there's not much reason to think that our D would have prevented long drives and scores if Iowa's average starting field position has been, say, their 20. So I think the stats are lying here.
|4 years 40 weeks ago||Divers alarums||
|4 years 42 weeks ago||'avete, victores' would be||
'avete, victores' would be better Latin.
|4 years 43 weeks ago||'At' is a preposition; the||
'At' is a preposition; the sentence contains no participle (unless you count 'amazing').
If you're going to fuss about grammar, try to be correct.
|4 years 43 weeks ago||Yes, and strength of schedule||
Yes, and strength of schedule is pretty much meaningless at this point, as most top teams (teams we know are pretty good regardless) have played a lot of overmatched opponents, so neither ranking nor sos is useful for predicting outcomes - why bother to use one to debunk the other?
|4 years 44 weeks ago||North Korea: worst nation||
North Korea: worst nation ever? Discuss ... and design a t-shirt?
|4 years 45 weeks ago||You guys don't understand.||
You guys don't understand. The great players of other teams succeed merely on the basis of raw athletic prowess; this is unfair, for some reason I can't quite explain. On the other hand, the noble warrior-poets of Notre Dame, despite pedestrian physical abilities, triumph by virtue of ingenious coaching and pure grit. It takes a brilliant coach countless hours of preparation devise great plays, like when Crist hurls it as far down the field as he can and hopes Floyd or Rudolph catches it. Despite being 5-star all-Americans, those guys aren't talented or anything. Kelly has such a tough job, we should really feel for him.
|4 years 45 weeks ago||Yes, it's harder to win when||
Yes, it's harder to win when you lose your starting QB. Shocker. But that's the only valid point the article had to make, everything beyond that was as ridiculous as everyone is saying.
|4 years 47 weeks ago||Woo!||
|4 years 47 weeks ago||This seems right: the whole||
This seems right: the whole purpose of divisions is to make a football championship game possible. BBall will still have the tourney, so no need for divisions.
|5 years 26 weeks ago||To put it another way, Brown||
To put it another way, Brown has the best coaching job in the country: great natural recruiting base, not so much competition (as in Florida or California). If I were a coach, I think UT would be the most attractive job out there.
|5 years 26 weeks ago||They only generate more||
They only generate more revenue if they admit more students (or more students who don't get financial aid). Does the release suggest that?
|5 years 27 weeks ago||Yeah this move could be good.||
Yeah this move could be good. There was no way we'd see the Masturbating Bear on NBC at 11:30. Conan's at his best with wackier, edgier stuff.
|5 years 28 weeks ago||Nice exegesis.||
|5 years 28 weeks ago||I think Scout had Custer as a||
I think Scout had Custer as a 5-star coming out of West Point, and look how that turned out. Rankings aren't everything.
|5 years 32 weeks ago||Chicago to B10 would be the||
Chicago to B10 would be the most absurd suggestion yet. They're D III. They have no stadium. They don't give athletic scholarships. No one here cares about college sports. If talking about Kant or Thucydides and wearing turtlenecks were a B10 sport, U of C would dominate.
|5 years 32 weeks ago||Mike Hart disagrees. RR||
Mike Hart disagrees. RR started McGuffie too.
|5 years 35 weeks ago||I had sex with your wife!||
I had sex with your wife!
|5 years 36 weeks ago||What I mean is, why do you||
What I mean is, why do you think it's not where it's always been (in the locker room, I guess)?
|5 years 36 weeks ago||Why would something have||
Why would something have happened to it?
|5 years 44 weeks ago||Race Bannon = Gerg: FTW||
Race Bannon = Gerg: FTW
|5 years 45 weeks ago||Would it be wrong to say I||
Would it be wrong to say I feel like Mich won 2 games today?
|5 years 47 weeks ago||I don't know...||
I simultaneously felt like crying and tackling the shit out of someone.
I think the point is that this is something more than a team playing some games for most of us. Not sure what exactly. It's not like your first-born or anything, but it's something.
|5 years 48 weeks ago||I also live in Hyde Park.||
I also live in Hyde Park. Jimmy's (no one calls it Woodlawn Tap) has only a few TVs, mostly small ones. What they'll show is unpredictable: they're big White Sox fans, but other than that they can be flexible, and I don't think there's a strong CFB allegiance (though one of the bartenders is an OSU fan). So going there for a M game might work, but it's not a sure thing.
But Jimmy's is a great bar in general.
|5 years 48 weeks ago||I'd plus if I had the points:||
I'd plus if I had the points: Duke of Perth is great.
The criticisms of Duffy's are quite accurate: it might be fun for some, but it's not for everybody. Looks like I'll be trying Mad River.