|3 days 12 hours ago||How he wrote his columns was||
How he wrote his columns was a gimmick he concocted to carve out a niche. If you read the glowing eulogies of the other Detroit writers today, they all point out the overly negative approach to incite the fans was his way of doing things. They dressed it up like he was providing some public service to fans who were too forgiving of mediocrity.
But let's be real. It was an ecomic ploy. Like the more skilled hockey player who also fights good selling out fully to be the team goon.
He might have been a great fighter, but I don't think it's out of place for people to point out all aspects of how a guy went about his business when he was alive.
|4 days 10 hours ago||Always think of him as the||
Always think of him as the beat writer for the Pistons in the Bad Boy glory days. He did a great job covering that team. Back when print was one of your main conduits to information depth and behind the scenes stuff. There weren't hour long pre games on TV or any of that.
He was not a talented or intellectually honest columnist. But he was provocative.
He was a talented beat writer who used to work extremely hard covering the Pistons and an important part of the media scene for sports fans in Michigan.
Feel bad for his family and friends.
|1 week 5 days ago||"Any Given Sunday" deserves||
"Any Given Sunday" deserves mention for the Pacino pre-game speech alone.
"Hoosiers" is a beautiful movie. Shot on location throughout Indiana using locals for bit parts and as extras. Multiple great locker room speeches by Hackman in that one.
When the star player announces he's coming back to play than throws the stipulation in that the Coach also has to be retained-- great moment.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I was impressed with Colorado||
I was impressed with Colorado and with the way Michigan adjusted after a very rocky first 15 or so minutes to outscore them by 30 points the rest of the way.
The road games starting late next month will decide the season. Just stay healthy through October. After that, I like those matchups until OSU.
That one Michigan will need to play at the highest level possible in all phases.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||The criticism on here ran deep and was also about ability.||
It went beyond just the academic comments on this very Blog.
There was a small minority of the total users who thought he was a good choice as far as ability as a football coach back in 2010. Talking late 2010 when it was apparent Rodriguez wasn't coming back.
I figured the motivation was the lingering resentment over the academic comments.
The percentage of people posting who questioned his ability as a football coach was surprisingly high. A lot of nit picking about his overall record at Stanford.
|26 weeks 4 days ago||Spring Game Grin. When I saw||
Spring Game Grin. When I saw it, I had no doubt this guy was taking the program to the moon. Everything else that happened after was incidental.
|27 weeks 6 days ago||Advantages to small programs when these camps happen||
The camps help the smaller programs just as much if not more. LImiting the camps, limits their cash-strapped football departments from being exposed to more players.
The smaller programs essentially ride the financial coattails of the larger more flush big programs who act as sponsors.
Limiting the camps is just another way of trying to slow down Harbaugh who has a non-stop work ethic. While hurting smaller programs who derive great benefit from Harbaugh's work.
|28 weeks 3 days ago||Maybe this was his middle ground?||
Haven't heard anyone mention the very real possibility that a majority of schools in the B1G sent word out through back channels they were against them. Obviously intending to slow down Harbaugh and to avoid working harder themselves.
In that case Delaney's best play is to do exactly what he did. Offer no real public support and then drop a meaningless lost cause vote for the camps.
|32 weeks 3 days ago||I have no doubt||
Been watching this for 35 years and I grant you that criteria changes. But when you listen to the chair of the selection com. explain things after, it's very rare you'll hear: "they lost by a lot in their losses." It's always about having a quality season in a big conference (winning record), beating enough good teams in the process, strength of schedule, overall winning percentage, and showing at least some forward momentum at the end.
Beating the conference champion in sort of a home game for them is strong evidence of a team playing well when it counts. And the Michigan factor and the overall popularity among fans helps too.
I think the experts who have Michigan out are overthinking and trying to predict things based on phantom recent trends. And also over rating smaller conference schools competing for these final spots.
You'll never sell me that all things being equal, small conference schools are given equal weight in strength of schedule to a 20 win Big Ten team who was near first place most of the season.
|33 weeks 3 days ago||That was a hopeless situation||
That was a hopeless situation when he took over. 5 years he turned them into the bully program west of the rockies and a destination for big time recruits. Whatever greatness he achieves for Michigan, he'll have to go ape great to top the job he did there. The other thing about that place is there is very little fan or alumni pressure. They aren't likely to invest in sports like they are at an SEC schhol for instance. You play second banana to the school itself.
|34 weeks 2 days ago||Their athletic department is||
Their athletic department is by and large a mess. They have been doing great in the two highest profile sports. I wouldn't say the fact of having two of the best coaches in those two sports, one an all-time legend, equates to saying the place has any committment to overall excellence. Embarrassing is a fair word to describe their programs in many sports.
|34 weeks 2 days ago||Guy coaches both? That's||
Guy coaches both? That's amazing. Appreciate the updates as always.
|35 weeks 2 days ago||Each side of the Beilein||
Each side of the Beilein scrum have lots ammunition from that one. The result was sort of secondary to the bigger picture. Brilliant job scheming an offense without the benefit of talented size or a slasher. Tactical mastery like we've seen since day one. On the other side, heavy reliance on outside shooting leading to two major scoring droughts and lack of size and athletes to play winning defense.
|35 weeks 5 days ago||The problem is the NBA itself||
PIston fans gave up because they have no A list star player and the NBA is set up for teams who do. You can't win it all now with a true team like in the mid-2000s. They changed the defensive rules about hand use and a star player can decide every important game. Totally different game now. The NBA is about getting a star either through the draft or free agency. Piston fans are waiting around for that. Otherwise, it's just really rich guys lolly gagging up and down the floor for dozens of meaningless games in the winter.
|35 weeks 6 days ago||We need better players and||
We need better players and should be getting them. The facilities, tradition and school are second to none. Philosophically Beilein can win and beat our rivals the way he coaches. If we had more talent.
|36 weeks 4 days ago||Kelly will be stealing this||
Kelly will be stealing this idea for sure. He's been very open since Day 1 about the need for the school to get out into all the corners of the country where they'll need to recruit. That's wny the Shamrock Series and all that. He just never thought of it or it would have happened already.
|37 weeks 2 days ago||Excellence. I love these updates||
Fans should be proud of Michigan's traditionally high finish in he Director's Cup. Invariably much higher than our top football and basketball competition. It's a sign of across the board committment to excellence and systemic health. It's way harder and more impressive to do than snag a once in a lifetime basketball coach who hangs around for two decades and simply ride his coat tails. More than a few of the programs outside of the big 2 at OSU and MSU are embarrassingly bad. They actually should be ashamed. But they aren't. Which is another reason being a Michigan fan is special.
|37 weeks 3 days ago||Always looked at games||
Always looked at games against MSU the same except in rare circumstances. Beating them isn't about any sort of bragging rights. It's pain avoidance and relief. I feel like that's what Michigan is supposed to do. Not like how I see beating Notre Dame or Ohio State. Given that feeling, MSU is not a rival from my perspective as a Michigan fan. I wouldn't pay five seconds of attention to them if they weren't playing Michigan. So I don't get the mentality of their fans regarding Michgan.
|37 weeks 4 days ago||Everybody bagging their||
Everybody bagging their success during Haden's time forgets to mention they were gutted to the tune of 10 scholarships a year for three seasons. Very hard to not only recruit but run proper practices with that little roster depth. I can't think of another program that would have come through everything as well as they did. Kiffin won ten games including at Oregon his first year. Pre-season number 1 the next year. The program averaged 8 wins a year the entire run of the sanctions, won the PAC 12 South twice, beat ND twice, UCLA, and Stanford twice. Yeah not great results, but you run those sanctions on a UCLA they'd spend a decade digging out. Plus it looks like he nailed it with this basketball coach. As a USC fan, I am glad he's leaving, but it wasn't all bad.
|37 weeks 4 days ago||Greatest team in NFL History.||
Greatest team in NFL History. They would chewed up Miami in any Super Bowl rematch. I believe they played game 1 with Steve Fuller at quarterback in the Orange Bowl. Bad start and couldn't recover. It happens. It wouldn't have happened twice and not on the biggest stage for all the marbles.
|38 weeks 5 days ago||The Federal government should||
The Federal government should get together with these note holders and come up with a plan and then simply hire all the people who are deeply in debt to work x amount of time per week for x amount of time to satisfy all or a portion of the debt. Things that need to be done in the community. There are so many cash strapped cities who are crying out for workers to do upteen different things that aren't getting done. Check out Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, and Flint as examples.
|38 weeks 6 days ago||I love your post. It's always||
I love your post. It's always worth pointing out that there are countless ways to learn all the great lessons guys learn playing football without the very real threat of serious injury to the brain. We're going to have to evolve as a society beyond the sport at some point. At least the sport as it's played now.
|38 weeks 6 days ago||The way many parents love the||
The way many parents love the sport as fans and refuse to read and give weight to the emerging science about the sport, I don't think they should be allowed to make the choice for their kids. Just like they legally can't make the choice to allow their kids to consume alcohol. Outlaw it until a player reaches X age.
|39 weeks 11 hours ago||Harbaugh lets them take||
Harbaugh lets them take visits to whereever and size up their choices. He is doing the same on his end. On that level, I am fine with what he is doing. Risk assumption on both sides. Plus, as has been pointed out many, many times, we have no idea the communications along the line between the coaches and the player. There could be, and likely are things he is telling these kids the moment they accept an offer. They just might not hear it. So jumping to negative conclusions is foolish. Didn't we learn that lesson in the Swenson deal? And wasn't that way "worse" on the initial surface?
|39 weeks 5 days ago||Sam Webb's comments this morning||
There maybe will be a separate thread started about this. Basically Sam said the timing is worthy of criticism. But the way that it's being portrayed that Michigan wasn't in communication with this player and suddenly pulled the rug, is incorrect. It was not an "abrupt circumstance" in Sam's words. There was contact about where the player stood earlier on. And odds are they won't add a replacement in the class at the player's position.
|41 weeks 8 hours ago||MSU should be getting at||
MSU should be getting at least the level of recruits they are getting. 50 wins over five seasons, two major bowl wins, an established program and head coach, and an appearance in the playoff. If I followed them, I'd be wondering why they aren't doing way better actually. If Michigan strings together a half-decade like that their classes will be insane.
|41 weeks 3 days ago||The eye test tells me he is||
The eye test tells me he is going to be a special player. But the eye test and Jim's past history tells me there aren't many schools with the promising trajectory and upside of Michigan. A battle for one recruit here or there doesn't alter the short or long-term course one bit.
|41 weeks 4 days ago||ESPN should have had it||
ESPN should have had it written in their contract with the college football PTB that they pick the date for the games. I guarantee they didn't, because the future playoff dates on the contract are mostly NYE. ESPN's fault for letting these conference commissioners continue their long-running love affair with the traditional bowls and dictate that NYD was off limits. Love the Rose Bowl, but the Semi's would have trounced everything in their path on NYD.
|41 weeks 6 days ago||From what I read she was key||
From what I read she was key in throwing her support behind him returning to college. She was very disappointed about the lack of security in a pro job. Seeing her husband win seventy percent plus and go to a Super Bowl with a dead-end franchise and yet get treated that way. Michigan fans thank her for sure and are glad they like it back in Michigan.
|42 weeks 2 days ago||This organization is a mess.||
This organization is a mess. It's going to be Sheldon White because that's the way they've always done things: hiring people from within who couldn't draw interest from other teams for that same job. That's always the test. The thing they have always needed: a true football czar who will change everything from the scouting down to the support staff, will elude the organization again. Life under the Fords.
|42 weeks 4 days ago||Concern for any of these bowl||
Concern for any of these bowl games is the real problem. Have the semis on campus and pick whereever for the National title game every year and play it whenever you want but not New Years.
|42 weeks 6 days ago||If you'd take Rich Rod over||
If you'd take Rich Rod over Kelly, you must like doing not as well as you could have by choosing Kelly.
|43 weeks 50 min ago||Yup. Definitely the harder||
Yup. Definitely the harder rocking of the two. Good call. WIthout regard to order: Yesterdays, Civil War, You Could be Mine, November Rain, Don't Cry, Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Live and Let Die, Dead Horse, Coma, Estranged, Pretty Tied up, Bad Obsession. Even if you took out the two covers, you'd have an amazing 10 song album. Really not much can touch Appetite. It was so unique. I think you take guys who have tons of drive and haven't made the money yet and you have Appetite. After that, the inspiration isn't the same.
|43 weeks 1 hour ago||You are. With honorable||
You are. With honorable mentions for "My Michelle" and "I Think About You"
|43 weeks 1 hour ago||"Slave to the Grind" is||
"Slave to the Grind" is a killer album from the early 90s that almost no one talks about . Mostly because grunge had burst on the scene and all those 80's bands got sort of black balled.
|43 weeks 1 hour ago||Hit an all-time home run right out of the gate||
Appetite for Destruction is still one of the great albums front-to-back in history. It blew the doors off basically all the 80s hair metal going on at the time. To me it always seemed to be the rare combo of raw and radio ready. If they would have stuck to one album in the Illusion thing, they could have maybe topped it. It was an amazing first five years. Some things that hot aren't meant to be long-term I guess.
|46 weeks 6 hours ago||If you are very hungry, this place is awesome||
http://bubbasdallas.com/ across the street from the northwest corner of SMU's campus. Ten minute walk to Moody at the most.
|46 weeks 2 days ago||Heat of the moment and he||
Heat of the moment and he apologized. We've all heard enough about the kind of guy he is. He'll grow out of it or he won't. What would have been really interesting is if ND had held on last week at Stanford. I am not sold after this type of low scoring brawl type game, that MSU would have went over a one loss ND.
|47 weeks 1 day ago||Withhold judgment and see on Helton||
I've seen each of their games start to finish. They have absolutely been a different, much more physical team offensively since Sark left. Noticeable even to non-sophisticated eyes like mine. Their rushing yards have shot way up and they're blocking with much greater effectiveness. Defensively they'll have to get a new coordinator most likely. But games where they've played man to man and attacked the line of scrimmage they've looked a lot better. It's senseless to play soft coverages with the level of athletes they stock on that roster. I think this guy gets it and has a very good reputation with quarterbacks at the school. It's still a program with ground to make up from the sanctions. So they are going to get slapped around a little by really good teams. Don't assume this guy is some boob is all I am saying.
|47 weeks 2 days ago||Obviously Harbaugh isn't||
Obviously Harbaugh isn't saying it's cool and laughing it off. Get real. That's not how he's wired and that's not what Michigan is about. But whether or not we as fans accept the reality of where our talent is versus OSU doesn't matter in Michigan's results. We're fans. But facts are facts in terms of where everything is. You could have played that thing yesterday ten times, have Harbaugh and company coach a perfect game (which they clearly fell short of ) and I don't think Michigan wins one time. That was a veteran elite team that belongs in the playoff but screwed themselves with a bad game the week before. Michigan has to get better players and put them through Jim's program for multiple seasons to consistently beat teams like we played yesterday. It might even be way diferent next year. But right now two totally different planets.
|47 weeks 2 days ago||shrug the shoulders and move on||
That stuff can happen when you play a truly elite college offense with basically everyone back from a National Championship run. Ask MSU at home playing them last year. That was an equivalent blood bath perpetrated on their defense. And that MSU team was considered Playoff material with an elite defese from the beginning of the season by the pundits. We came to the party on that discussion very late and even then it was pretty ambitious. Reality: we have maybe 2 NFL ready guys and none on either line. Bottom line is if OSU shows up, interested, and their coach calls an aggressive intelligent game, no one in our conference is stopping them currently. They'd like to have last week back and I'll bet our coaches would like to have some aspects of yesterday back too. But it probably wouldn't have mattered either way. That's where Michigan is at. Won two we probably shouldn't have and lost one we probably shouldn't have. So 8-4 or 9-3, with a bowl to play is a nice foundation. My thinking is take our medicine with grace, accept MSU fans yapping about their success (the world knows how lucky they got against us), and watch with patience because Harbaugh and his people will get us there. If you doubt at all he will, you're ignoring over a decade of history at three different coachin stops. Stanford being the most miraculous. That was the ultimate crater rebuild to end all rebuilds. What you see there now is all his early foundational work.
|1 year 6 days ago||There has always been a part||
There has always been a part of me that thinks Michigan is an easy mark for bad calls. Michigan's less chippy style of play coupled with generally being above making a big deal about poor officiating gives a license to officials to not work hard to get the calls right. I was glad Harbaugh said what he said in the press conference. Can't think of any other coach who would have stayed quiet.
|1 year 1 week ago||Call it what it was||
As a time saver, I took this approach first thing this morning. Any Sparty who won't acknowledge the ending was anything but luck for an otherwise beaten team, won't get me to participate in a game discussion. If they will be intellectually honest about what happened, no problem at all talking about it in depth. And congratulating them on honest, fair competition and coming out on top.
|1 year 1 week ago||Having lived in other States,||
Having lived in other States, I can say that's true. Very good comparison with Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. The only place the cries of OSU fans about parity or "dominance" of the rivalry is taken seriously is inside the state itself. Fans outside of the state don't give bluster like that any weight. Creating the sense that one program has become as important or prominent as the long term successful one is a a tool for local media to pump up ratings and page views. It's manufactured reality. It's a favorite trick of many in the Michigan media. Two in particular have turned baiting Michigan fans with made-up opinions into their ticket to an early retirement.
|1 year 1 week ago||This thread may or may not be||
This thread may or may not be based on a thin premise, but it's one of the best ones on here since approximately 7:22 last night. There is great big picture thinking happening among the posters. I feel a ton better reading through this. I think that feeling will be ratcheted up even more after reading Brian's monday recap. That's my hope.
|1 year 1 week ago||I still think the booth||
I still think the booth people relayed the wrong number down. The Morgan hit right before was a lot closer to targeting with the helmet than what Bolden did. Bad call and cost us a quality player. No question.
|1 year 1 week ago||Plus the difference in big time talent currently||
Cook is a top ten pick this coming April. Jake will be lucky to get invited to a camp as a free agent in all likelihood. Add in the fact of the number of players they had on pre-season All America and Todd McShay type guru watch lists and the analogy is even more appropriate. I laughed all week at the pre-game injury excuse talk from Sparty fans. If you have a coach who hasn't built a quality bench after 8 years on the job, you don't have a coach. And we all know the jerk can coach. They are further along than Michigan program wise as far as talent development. A lot further. Jim will narrow that gap faster than probably anyone else alive could though.
|1 year 1 week ago||If you win more plays over||
If you win more plays over the course of a game, the officiating becomes far less important. Better talent gets to 2nd and 5 rather than 2nd and 9 or 10 for example. It exploits a secondary like we saw yesterday. Michigan isn't there yet on the personnel front. To be able to lead the whole game against a team that had that level of quarterback and defensive line is definite progress. I wouldn't trade Michigan's future for any program in the country. Not one. We have probably the best football coach in America, in his prime and he's hungry as heck to turn us into a power. Yesterday is just another year of pain listening to dufus State fans. That's really all it was in the big picture.
|1 year 1 week ago||Need better players. When||
Need better players. When Harbaugh has had his chance to recruit and develop players in 2 or 3 seasons, we'll look back and know the reality of our current roster. There are about 8 guys at the most who would maybe start for one of the elite teams in the country. The rest are being coached to their max potential to hold up against great teams. In that overachiever group are almost the entire offense except for one guy, all the linebackers and all but two dbs. Plus we lack even one elite pass rusher. You're going to be in a lot of these close games against established good teams until you upgrade the roster. But it takes time. When Michigan State has more NFL players than you, it shows you how far afield the program had strayed.
|1 year 1 week ago||Michigan fans understand it||
Michigan fans understand it takes a little time and some recruiting classes to build something sustainable. I don't think it's anybody's vision to have a passing game that can't exploit a defense like we encountered yesterday or to play "close" games. Yesterday was an extremely painful growing pain where horrid luck happened. That's what the ending was. Rotten luck. Nothing more. But the direction this is going is exciting on the whole.
|1 year 1 week ago||If we didn't have to deal||
If we didn't have to deal with their bandwagon dim wit fans at work and family gatherings throughout the year, I doubt people would be nearly as upset on here as they are. It wasn't a good loss because those don't exist, but it was acceptable and might end up helping the progress of the long term trajectory. So many things had to go exactly right for a them to win at they end and they all did. That's fluke luck. Nothing more.
|1 year 1 week ago||Blaming officials for the loss misses the point||
I've always thought the way coaches choose to end games on 4th down with a lead needs to be rethought. Firing the ball backwards toward your own endzone 15 to 20 yards, against a heavy rush and putting it in the hands of one your most unathletic players overflows with risk. It's what you see every team do in that situation but maybe this will cause a change now. Like how teams guard the inbounder on last second plays after Duke Kentucky in 1992. Michigan didn't lose because of officiating yesterday. That's lame. It is a roster loaded with average to good players who are being coached up magnificently. But this will be Jim's worst team at Michigan going forward. Outside of Butt, a couple o-lineman, the d line (which has no elite pass rusher), Peppers, and maybe Lewis and the punter, none of these guys start for a top flight program. That's like 2/3 of your team that isn't where it needs to be or will be talent wise. Michigan lost to a team with better personnel yesterday to a coach going on a decade building things up. It stung but there is no shame in that. As the gaping roster issues get fixed with recruiting, results will follow.
|1 year 1 week ago||If a guy plays or if he||
If a guy plays or if he doesn't is the dividing line on injuries.
This constant chatter about it by MSU, their MSM stooges, and their fans is tiresome.
Brian pointed out what Michigan will be missing for certain. I'll be willing to bet that when the ball is kicked off State's list won't look much worse in relative importance.
Hobbling around playing hurt is a lot of college football at this point, yet Michigan State gets to both count it is an actual injury and use it before a game as an acceptable excuse.
|1 year 26 weeks ago||Mike Williams. USC. They||
Mike Williams. USC. They found him on a basketball court in Florida.
Unbelievable college receiver without blazing speed.
|1 year 26 weeks ago||8 sounds good and let's put||
8 sounds good and let's put the first round games on campuses. Give the better ranked teams a reward and inject some flavor and atmosphere into these games.
Maybe this will send a Southern team to a northern campus in December. Something that people have been wanting to see for years.
|1 year 26 weeks ago||^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The last||
The last coach of Michigan could likely will be answering this ad. And he was killing it in the recruiting service rankings.
Let's not forget who is in charge of things. We might be going too far into nerdville whining about recruiting rankings. Also let's not forget what Dantonio's 2 and 3 stars have been doing to Michigan for most of the last half-decade.
|1 year 29 weeks ago||Stanford might have been the||
Stanford might have been the worst Pac 10 program of the last thirty years when Jim took over. Throwing winning percentages around when analyzing the job he did there is pure intellectual dishonesty.
What he did there was a miracle. He left before he could chew up successive ten wins seasons and pump up his W/L.
Instead, he went and won seventy percent of his games in the pros with average at best quarterback play.
OSU fans root for a program that got fat off a cheater's mill under Tressell. The NCAA came to town for two weeks and let the whole thing just slide by with no meaningful investigation. A decade of a coach who preached integrity, qualifying borderline students and keeping them compensated with a network of freebies and do nothing summer jobs.
To prove they learned no lesson, they hired Meyer and his unmatched record of criminal coddling down at Florida
Their fabulous record during that stretch is the product of everything Michigan refuses to ever be.
We should be glad of it.
|1 year 30 weeks ago||Totally. I still have a lot||
I still have a lot of faith that once Michigan starts being really good again at football, the above is how the fan base will really feel about things like the Izzo drool fest. There won't be this strange worry over whether State wins a game against Louisville in late March.
Stumbling around in football has caused a widespread insecurity among the fanbase. Also the stumbling has coincided with the explosion of social media and all the junk that gets tossed around on there.
But it's all about taking charge of the interaction by knowing what matters most to State fan. That is flexing their flabby sports fan muscles in the face of a Michigan fan and drawing a reaction.
|1 year 30 weeks ago||Years of Spartys in my family and among friends has taught me..||
The best way to cope with Sparty fan during these March droolings over Izzo. When they bring the game up, tell them you saw "parts" of the game and you "checked the score later on". And then say something like "pretty exciting huh?" Be nice and positive.
It really ticks them off.
Remember the psychology: it's attention they want and a close second is they want to rub it in you as a Michigan fan. If you aren't drawn into a discussion of any depth, it gets to them. If you act like it's fine, it gets to them.
I like to throw in things like "yeah State looked pretty good when I was watching. Exciting stuff."
It works like magic. It's a middle ground between arguing about Michigan v. Michigan State and the other extreme of acting like you don't care and didn't watch.
That second thing never works and makes you look weak.
If they can't get to Michigan fans, a huge part of the fun is sucked dry.. That's as important as the actual success to them. Maybe more.
|1 year 30 weeks ago||The cure for the angst I am||
The cure for the angst I am seeing on here from a lot of Michigan fans: move out of the state. I lived out of state for almost a decade during the Sparty's basketball height in the early 2000s.
In March you didn't get bombarded with the media and their fans like you do in Michigan. No one cared or knew much about them.
The other upside was as a State grad no one knew about Michigan State and they'd always ask me questions about my time at Michigan. Kind of like I got a Michigan degree with the lesser State level effort and requirements.
If you can't move like I did, just know it's going to be OK. You are a captive audience that doesn't represent the normal world out there.
|1 year 30 weeks ago||I think this is cool if it||
I think this is cool if it fits the relationship among the people involved. Assume that it does given Jay is Jim's son and Jim is one of the best on the planet at his job.
Since we don't know the nature of that relationship and we don't jack about recruiting for the most part, this might be genius at work.
At least allow for the possibility of all the above before labeling based on your own biases and collective ignorance.
|1 year 30 weeks ago||I was one. Lawyers produce||
I was one. Lawyers produce nothing. But I'd love to see that world without them thing tried out for a test run at some point in time.
|1 year 30 weeks ago||Lawyers produce nothing. They||
Lawyers produce nothing. They mostly shuffle paper around. Plus the profession is extremely high stress.
When that hits home and it hits home that it won't ever change, you'll jump ship. If your lucky and can afford to jump ship with no family counting on the paycheck you are making as a lawyer.
If they are, you are trapped. For life.
|1 year 31 weeks ago||Many many benefits and I don't feel like I miss anything||
I second getting rid of TV.
Did it last July fed up with the cable bill and fed up with my general inertia of life. I go to bars for Michigan games or chill and listen to Brando and Dan.
It became just as enjoyable. The radio announcers do a super job of describing everything.
I started writing books and went from zero to a couple grand a month in income too. Took that TV time and made it writing time. Create rather than react to what others create.
The other thing is I notice I am a better listener because talking to people is actual entertainment, not just more noise.
And I exercise more....and... and.....
TV is a weight on progress in life. Never knew how much until I got rid of it.
|1 year 32 weeks ago||I don't know wny any receiver||
I don't know why any receiver who wants to learn the craft of being a receiver for the next level would play in that system. There are so many turn and stand in space routes because teams get caught over playing the run.
Harbaugh will recruit lights out over the long haul and that includes huge improvement in the next class. Michigan gives him way more access than he had at Stanford. He recruited amazingly well there.
|1 year 37 weeks ago||A year that might make a lot||
A year that might make a lot of fans go "hmmmm". He hadn't touched power numbers like that since his 20s.
Not really even close.
The list of guys who made one year power number jumps like he made in the twilight of a career is mighty short and includes Bonds and Mark McGuire. Plus Victor was post knee surgery. Playing in a major pitcher's park.
Couple that with the obvious fact that the market for a power hitting DH is way way more lucrative than one that hits for just average, and.... Well it's just interesting.
I've watched baseball for 30 years, I've rarely seen a ball jump off a guy's bat like it did his when he made contact. Sometimes it was down right cartoonish.
|1 year 38 weeks ago||The Saban situation with the||
The Saban situation with the regular NFL flirtations has taught us something.
It's a lot easier to keep him than it is to get him in the first place. Family ties/stability, relative ease and hours of the job, atmosphere, the obvious need for a top quarterback to win in the pros, not to mention competitive pay compared to the pros, makes leaving a great college job very very difficult.
|1 year 38 weeks ago||Look it up, but I bet||
Look it up, but I bet Michigan has one of the 3 highest winning percentages in the country from that point forward.
It was Novak. That woke everybody up.
|1 year 38 weeks ago||College should fight back by||
College should fight back by dropping the ridiculous need to wait nearly 4 weeks to play these semi-final games. Take on the NFL last quarter of their schedule with the college football playoff system.
This pandering to pointless antiquated bowl games and the bandits who run them is absolutely silly.
Run a 6 or 8 team playoff in December starting the first weekend after final exams and use campus sites for rounds 1 and 2 or just round 1.
Or let venues bid for the games all over the country.
The bowls can become what the bowls are. ESPN will still pay to show them and we'll still watch.
|1 year 39 weeks ago||Three points on the||
Three points on the buyout.
First, no amount of money is going to prevent a match between a pro job and Jim Harbaugh if they really want to make it happen. Speculation would probably never be diminished by a higher dollar amount.
Second is if he is being courted by the NFL and it's serious, it likely means Michigan is back as a national power.
Third is Harbaugh can handle himself perfectly in a recruit's house when addressing the issue. He's been recruiting since before he quit playing pro football. Grinding and learning the art on the job with elbow grease for over a decade and a half save his relatively pro stints as an assistant and then head coach.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||We know what the spin will be||
It's going to be "no good NFL choices" and Michigan was his only decent option this year. With a side order of "he might not be cut out for the NFL".
The only people who will buy any of it will be frightened rival fans and people incapable of any analysis beyond claims made in an ESPN "NFL Insider" segment.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||"God bless Jim and us all.||
"God bless Jim and us all. Everyone."
(Is that the same story? If not, my bad)
|1 year 43 weeks ago||No different than Harbaugh's||
No different than Harbaugh's strict approach that he is focusing on his current job and not the next one. Two type A guys who ultimately can't work together.
I wouldn't expect him to say anything but what he said. It means nothing beyond a guy who is strident in his belief on staying focused.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||Agreed||
Shefter piled on the embarrassingly bad work he's done on this story with his made-up anectdotes about Michigan not giving IPads to players and being cheap on support staff.
After he realized the offer was fact, he was resorting to "I can't believe it because (insert false irrelevant thing I made up)" to try to cover for his failure for weeks to go actually work the story.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||Give me Harbaugh or Give me||
Give me Harbaugh or Give me Death.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||After over a half decade of||
After over a half decade of getting our teeth kicked in by Dantonio and his middling recruiting classes, I can't believe anyone is even bringing up recruiting considering the advantage getting the right coach gives a program.
If it came down to it, I'd wait until after signing day to sign this candidate and bank the scholarships. Gladly.
Luckily that will not happen and the new coach will get some very good players in whatever time he has.
The right head coach is everything in college football. We should all know that by now.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Absent solid word from the||
Absent solid word from the candidate himself, the odds strengthening and therefore payouts dropping (on him coming to Michigan) is far better information on what is likely to happen than the stacks of insider rumors we've seen.
I think you should read up on how Vegas works.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Years and years of toil to||
Years and years of toil to get this opportunity for his dream job and it didn't last.
Looking at it on that level plus reading what the players say, I am sick to my stomach a little.
It will be better tomorrow.
Michigan is better off. But I am still not liking any of this.
|1 year 47 weeks ago||The similarities in the type||
The similarities in the type of kids you would get academically are obvious too. He turned those guys into take no prisoners maulers on the football field. Put aside his technical knowledge, which is considered elite by any standard.
He'd have even more access to top athletes in his recruiting here.
One thing people forget is he hasn't won anything yet. He idolizes Bo and it probably drives him crazy that people talk about Bo's failure to win it all.
There is a very personal and massive professional challenge right here at Michigan waiting for him. He always loved a challenge.
|1 year 47 weeks ago||Character,||
|1 year 48 weeks ago||Michigan needs to get this||
Michigan needs to get this man.
Zero guesswork on the results he'll bring.
|1 year 48 weeks ago||I agree Michigan failed him.||
I agree Michigan failed him. If you felt compelled to keep him around, he should have been forced to the sidelines for a year ala Stonum on the felony theft. Theft is a big deal because it goes right to the heart of honesty. You have to calculate theft. Plan it. Carry it out.
When they went soft on that offense, the Michigan staff, Hoke in particular failed to impart the necessary lessons.
Clark deserves all the help Michigan can still give him. I don't believe he should have been allowed to still play Michigan football after offense 1. However like then, he deserves sympathy and help. But remaining as a player on the football team was debatable.
This is more than a besmirchment. Had this victim been severly incapacitated or even died, Michigan football and it's handling of discipline would be under some horrible scrutiny.
The other factor is the nature of domestic violence is that this likely wasn't a first-time deal involving these actors. We all lose our cool and act out and then wish we hadn't. But this has very likely happened before and went unreported. That's way different than having a bad moment in time.
|1 year 49 weeks ago||He's done at Michigan. Done.||
He's done at Michigan. Done. As it should be.
I wasn't for bringing him back in the first place. One of the less-discussed stories of Brady Hoke's now-doomed tenure at Michigan is his soft-peddling guys who did harm to the University and team with their behavior. Theft crime, good bye. Simple.
I guess it's the one area where he actually measured up to Michigan State.
|1 year 51 weeks ago||It is the only reason. You||
It is the only reason. You are correct.
I've heard that he is still real close with guys like Kolesar and other teammates. They talk Michigan constantly and follow the program with great passion. It's personal for Jim when Michigan suffers on the field. Make no mistake.
That's a bid edge in landing him.
|1 year 51 weeks ago||Rich Rod's offense sputtering||
Rich Rod's offense sputtering against a physical defense on the road. Same old same old.
Not even a very good defense either. UCLA has given up huge games to the likes of Colorado.
|1 year 51 weeks ago||I like how Stanford does many||
I like how Stanford does many different things out of one formation. Lots of reads at the line by smart guys depending on the defense. It makes traditional power sets a lot harder to defend.
That's all Harbaugh with Shaw as his OC.
The future here at Michigan if things fall the right way in the next few weeks.
|1 year 51 weeks ago||Luck was his big get. Turned||
Luck was his big get. Turned things big time for what Jim was trying to do. Everyone wanted him.
He was the best college quarterback I've ever seen. It didn't hurt getting him.
What I like about the fit with Michigan is you have those same sell points with the elite education a kid can receive.
I like what Harbaugh was able to do with both Smith and the current quarterback with the 49ers. It seemed like a great job maximizing the skill set of each guy.
You see that on display with Cook at Michigan State. He's a product of great player development as much as I hate to admit it.
|1 year 51 weeks ago||other thoughts||
There are two other components with that defense worth considering.
Stanford recruits better generally on offense. Offensive focused players are often better students because offense can be less about pure raw athleticism than defense. The assignments on defense can be complex as well, but it's more about turning athletes loose and letting them make plays.
The defense would necessarily take more time to develop because it would take a few years to get undervalued recruits on campus and coach them up/get them stronger. See Michigan State's defense first 3 years under Dantonio. It wasn't really all that good.
A guy like Sherman was an exception to the level of recruits Stanford was getting defensively.
The other component is the bias towards offense of the conference Stanford is in.
I haven't checked but I doubt even Jim's best defense had the recruiting cache he'd inherit at Michigan.
|1 year 51 weeks ago||recent appearance||
He did an interview from the field on Michigan football radio pre-game Saturday.
It was short on specifics except for a little depth on the ticket price reduction for students.
It was noteworthy only because it was a public statement which posters have noted are becoming rare.
Compared to his usual condescending vibe, his tone seemed whimsical. I took it to mean he knows he's cooked.
Maybe because that's how I wanted to take it.
|2 years 30 weeks ago||Jalen's right. Anybody on||
Jalen's right. Anybody on here who places any weight on quotes from Izzo at this juncture is being naive on a baffling level.
The fact is the Pistons are looking at a lottery pick and a 20 year old budding star at center. Don't tell me that's not attractive in a leauge totally driven by stars.
Especially for a guy that has stated publicly he'd love to just coach and not have to recruit.
People on here think too much like local college sports slappies way too often.
|2 years 33 weeks ago||This team needs buzz and a||
This team needs buzz and a lottery pick to pair up with Drummond. Had they done the clear and smart thing and drafted Burke, they'd be sitting on a dynamic local star point guard, a 20-year old true center with huge upside and a lottery pick. Burke would have guaranteed a baseline of fan interest which they currently don't have. Dumb, dumb, dumb and they still don't have an actual point guard.
As it is it's still an interesting situation. They need that lottery pick and bad. I hope they are tanking like there's no tomorrow.
Isiah was the Captain he should have never left this organization. Ever.
Should he be running things? No. He should be part of things though.
Bring him in, tank for the lottery, make a play for Izzo. Now's the time to lure him away from State. They are looking trashy next year by their standards and Izzo's burned out chasing recruits around like it's still 1997. He was all but gone to Cleveland in 2010. He just waited out the decision like everyone else.
|2 years 36 weeks ago||If they finish in the bottom||
If they finish in the bottom 8 in the best draft in 11 years, there is piece 2 (a lottery pick). Piece 1 being Drummond. In the NBA you need a superstar or 2. They could potentially have 2 both not yet old enough to buy alcohol. That's a heck of a start.
Plus they are so boring and uninteresting and lousy, that it's the perfect entry point. A mediocre .500 season would be another feather in Izzo's cap.
On the flirting with Cleveland: Yeah it was rumors. Rumors where the subject of the rumors (Izzo) flat out disappeared from media contact for weeks, took the owners private jet to Cleveland, and publicly stated he wanted to talk to Lebron.
That's A LOT more than rumors. That's his mini-version of Lebron's decision with the program he professes to adore hanging in the balance. Remember that was a year removed from his biggest accomplishment since 2000: taking a good not great team to the final game played in Detroit no less.
He hasn't been to a Final Four since. Not even close. The mountains have been scaled. He still has to recruit his butt off like it's 1997 which he hates.
Maybe State can match the Pistons financially, but if he were to ever leave, you would be hard pressed to find a better situation.
The coaches for the stacked teams on the brink of winning titles don't get fired. The jobs only open for the bad teams. If you are Izzo you pick one with major upside.
That could be Detroit if they tank out.
I think a lot of times we fail to think like the subject of the discussion and substitute our own thinking. Security or job security means diddly to Izzo at this point. To us it sounds great. Guys like him got to that point because they were crazy upwardly mobile. They broke all the rules about how many hours you work and how intense you need to be. That's who they are.
|2 years 36 weeks ago||Based on what? Total loyalty||
Based on what? Total loyalty to State came off the table in 2010. A guy with total loyalty doesn't go into hiding for a fortnight hoping to speak to the waffling superstar player of the team he might take over as coach. Lebron stays, he was heading to Cleveland. That was pretty common knowledge.
You have some substance besides the world through green and white goggles?
|2 years 36 weeks ago||They are currently in a||
They are currently in a melee of three teams all within 3 games of being in the bottom 8. This team can get into that confederacy of losers with one of their normal weeks.
Tanking super hard isn't necessary. Just keep playing Detroit basketball.
Plus Izzo will have the luxury to see how they finish before he'll decide to take the job.
As an aside, they'd be total morons not to tank and get a lottery pick. Best draft since 2003. Making the playoffs only keeps them mediocre in a league that penalizes it.
|2 years 36 weeks ago||Reasons why it very well could happen||
---He was all but gone to Cleveland in 2010. He publicly stated he "wanted to talk to Lebron" to see if he was returning or going to another team. This lingered for over 2 weeks. He knows that taking an NBA job without a superstar or high lottery pick is a suicide mission. So this absolute loyalty and he would never leave MSU idea is actually total fantasy. I get why State fans buy into it, but people on here are too smart for that.
--The Pistons likely will have a lottery pick.
--They already have a budding potential superstar who is barely age 20.
--His entry point is perfect. He'd be following a series of dog coaches and lousy seasons. So a .500 record and a playoff spot in year 1 would make him a savior.
--He doesn't have to leave the state he already lives in
--He hates recruiting. He recently had a public blow up with influential talent runners and coaches in Chicago. He has stated publicly that he is disappointed that he can't get A list talent to State on auto pilot despite all his success. Basically expressing envy of teams like Duke and Kentucky.
--Huge money and likely a stake in the franchise. Like set up your grandchildren's kids level money.
--Gores love of MSU. It's even been rumored that he leaned on Dumars not to take Burke because he didn't want to build his team around a popular U of M player.
--The desperate need for buzz to put fans in an embarrassingly empty Palace. Izzo is a statewide sports icon and would instantly put the team on the front page again.
--State's recruiting isn't what it was. Who they got coming back next year? Michigan will likely have everyone back.
Add it up: It's actually a perfect time to leave and the Pistons are a perfect situation for him to walk into.
Not saying it will happen, but since we already know Izzo would have definitely left MSU a few years ago, there's lots of factors saying it could.
|2 years 38 weeks ago||On film:||
Seems sort of cruise speed motor and has poor technique. Great if he comes, cool if he doesn't.
He's far from a can't miss impact player at this point.
I'd rather have a guy in the Marcus Rush mode who plays with abandon and fire. Outside of Jake, there is nobody on the defense currently that appears to play that way.
Marshall looks like the better player at this point.
|2 years 39 weeks ago||Actually your comment is totally misleading||
If you read the body of the article, he was asked by the interviewer to respond to the specific notion he is running the program rather than Hoke. Which he did.
Your comment makes it seem like he took a question about an aspect or event and made a point of reemphasizing he isn't running the program.
There's a huge difference.
|2 years 41 weeks ago||I've heard Sark talk on the||
I've heard Sark talk on the subject of his offense a lot lately. It's a much smaller playbook with more hand signals at the line as the skill players read everything in unison based on the defense.
It's more empowering to the players, especially the quarterback.
Overall it is way less complicated and in this day and age with practice time limits, that is becoming more and more a necessity. There can be either power or zone blocking in the scheme.
How much of the field is used with spread concepts or how much of the scheme works more north/south is a dealer's choice type deal. You see all types of variations on that.
The UCLA rumor is interesting. UCLA was out of the shotgun most every play with a single back or pistol and one of the great dual threat quarterbacks in the country in Hundley.
The tempo is faster.
|2 years 42 weeks ago||Point Guard? On the Pistons?||
I keep hearing the lame Bill Simmons wanna be argument that the Pistons had a point guard already.
Who that was worth a damn?
They haven't had a decent one since Chauncey.
If anything they had too many shooting guards, so it made total sense to draft another. Jeez the NBA is pure garbage if doing what Dumars did was considered a sound move.
|2 years 42 weeks ago||Lame, lame, lame||
Like anyone who roots for State is going to read this silly congratulations and care. Quit trying to pile on the self-suffering by rubbing your own nose deeper in the mud over our lackluster season. Sparty fan will do that to you gladly too many times to count in the next 12 months.
It's phony. They don't think you have class and you don't think they have class, so this is totally pointless.
|2 years 42 weeks ago||Lame, lame, lame||
Like anyone who roots for State is going to read this silly congratulations and care. Quit trying to pile on the self-suffering by rubbing your own nose deeper in the mud over our lackluster season. Sparty fan will do that to you gladly too many times to count in the next 12 months.
It's phony. They don't think you have class and you don't think they have class, so this is totally pointless.
|2 years 42 weeks ago||Lame, lame, lame||
Like anyone who roots for State is going to read this silly congratulations and care. Quit trying to pile on the self-suffering by rubbing your own nose deeper in the mud over our lackluster season. Sparty fan will do that to you gladly too many times to count in the next 12 months.
It's phony. They don't think you have class and you don't think they have class, so this is totally pointless.
|2 years 46 weeks ago||Stanford is serious||
They are who Michigan would be if Harbaugh came here either after 07 or 10. Perfect technique in the offensive line, blocking assignment adjustments during the snap count, hundreds of variations out of any one formation, no negative plays, brutal aggressive defense.
Michigan might get there still but.....
This rooting for MSU and congratulating MSU stuff is coming from a "let's wallow in self-pity and pile on our own punishment" place. Stop it and man up.
You are going to need that thick skin dealing with State fan here in Michigan for the next 11 months or so. The biggest reason why Ohio winning would have been just fine with me.
|2 years 46 weeks ago||Blatant and remorseless move||
Blatant and remorseless move to recapture the Pete Carroll style, approach, and energy at USC. As a fan of the program, that's worth a dice roll any day of the week.
Didn't think this would happen BECAUSE of the close ties to Pete and that era. Felt Haden associated all of it with the lawless past. I was wrong.
|2 years 47 weeks ago||Look for Marriuci's name to||
Look for Marriuci's name to surface as a USC candidate. I am not sure if that will happen. I hear so many different things on Orgeron. I don't think they really know and Haden hasn't said much besides comfirm the Del Rio meeting. Jack isn't going there.
Had they looked good last night, Orgeron would be announced this week. Both losses were to rivals and they looked bad in both games.
Might sound capricious, but that's college football. Look no further than the majority of posts on this board the last 6 weeks. It's almost a week to week deal with the popularity dial of a coach.
|2 years 48 weeks ago||Reality of college football: must build it sustainable||
You ain't winning at this level of college football when you are relying on a majority of guys who are in their 2nd year or less on campus. That's reality.
If people on here think that they can effectively judge what Hoke is doing with this program and where it will end up, I am taking you to Del Mar with me on my next trip west. We're going to make a fortune at the track.
As far as staff, let's wait and see. If major donors push for it, there might be some changes in a couple spots. Hoke is going nowhere for 4 classes and 5 seasons. Reason: the program is right back in the mess Rodriguez left it in unless you reestablish sustainable talent pipelines for the long-term.
A lot of folks on here need to relax.
|2 years 48 weeks ago||1996 inductee into the Pro||
1996 inductee into the Pro Football Hall of Fame as well.
Arguably the greatest lineman in the history Michigan football.
|2 years 49 weeks ago||Credibility issues abound on here these days||
You heavy complainers were on his bandwagon a mere 11 days ago talking about his greatness during the Indiana game. It's laughable the level of band wagoning by the completely uninformed that goes on here lately.
There's like 10 or 15 posters who know anything and none of them are lurking around at the 1000 point or less level. I include myself in the know nothing category.
Sorry, but you fair weather gripers just look silly; like you belong over commenting away using your facebook account under the latest gem from Drew Sharp.
|2 years 49 weeks ago||The OP couldn't be more correct on this||
For those of you who are frustrated that people on here can't grasp the idea that what Hoke says to the media is indicative of basically nothing (despite nearly 3 years and probably around 100 press conferences), I'll say what you are probably thinking:
This board has recently become over loaded with the level of insight and thinking that is the hallmark of fans posing comments on MLive and Freep. It's drastically undermining the quality of this site.
Also, if you start your post with words similar to: "while I agree that he can't throw them under the bus, he still needs to", then you actually don't agree that he can't throw them under the bus. Because if he says much beyond what he always says, he would in fact be throwing them under the bus.
So if you want more, then you really want him to deeply undermine the team in the public. When he does that, you'll still pick it apart as unsatisfactory anyways.
|2 years 51 weeks ago||The defense was probably good||
The defense was probably good enough on a day when the offense could gain some traction and stay on the field. The offense wasn't doing that and it got ugly as the defense frankly wore down. Disappointing.
|2 years 51 weeks ago||But we weren't soft going toe||
But we weren't soft going toe to toe with Ohio, VT, State and ND in 2011? What about State, South Carolina, and Ohio last year? We had veteran guys with tons of game experience on both those teams.
Yesterday was boys against men at spots where you can't have that in a hostile environment.
We can argue the talent level of a Barnum or Mealer or Patrick, but we can't argue they were way more experienced.
This toughness stuff is silly considering what the coaches did in 2011 and 2012. Michigan lost to State. A team with a very good veteran defense. On their field. It wasn't pleasant, but with the our current roster, not surprising. The way we lost was the way teams lose on the road when the middle of the line can't block bigger more experienced players.
(ed. changed 2010 to 2011 in sentence 1)
|2 years 51 weeks ago||I follow things pretty close||
I follow things pretty close but I am shocked by this. I admit it.
|2 years 51 weeks ago||It seems like when you have||
It seems like when you have good athletes, pressure defense works at the college level. You run risks but is that risk worse than the alternatives of allowing the opponent to be comfortable?
|2 years 51 weeks ago||Which teams are those?||
Which teams are those?
|2 years 51 weeks ago||I read your earlier posts and||
I read your earlier posts and have been building off your themes. It's more big picture viewpoint, but the Michigan we all want was forged through a big picture approach.
Point of fact, State sucked in 2009 (year 3 of that coaching staff).
Most of the folks on the board are not old enough to remember the last time Michigan had to rebuild through establishing a consistent talent pipeline and program at the same time. That is because it has never really happened. Bo even acknowledged Elliot left him good veteran football players with more on the way. Rich was in the process of attempting it (probably for the first time in program history) but had the rug pulled prematurely. Maybe for the best, maybe not.
The goal is long-term sustainability. If we can avoid a meltdown as a fan base and brush off the verbal crud we'll get at work with State fan lurking around every cubicle, we're going to end up pleased most likely.
|2 years 51 weeks ago||Two things about State we could learn from||
First, it is sort of interesting that Dantonio said this week in his radio interview spots called "inside the huddle" that offensive linemen ideally should not be playing at all until they are at least redshirt sophomores. Reason: the playbook is larger for them than other players on offense, including quarterback. They have to know protections based on defensive alignments pre-snap and be able to adjust mentally in a precise way as the defense moves around. One false move and everything is blown up. Especially against pressure fronts.
Second, I knew many State fans who wanted Narduzzi out the door back in 2009. State's defense couldn't get out of it's own way that season. His rise to genius status was far from smooth within that fan base.
We are ticked off and don't want to deal with another year of State fan belittling Michigan football, but it's the price of admission to having a consistent program with a pipeline of steady talent again.
Continuity. Patience in letting the recruits grow and develop into experienced upper classmen. We saw it on display today from the opponent.
If Hoke and the staff ultimately prove to deficient, the pipeline will be up and running. Bring in a better staff for the coronation.
|2 years 51 weeks ago||Great points||
Try the 2011 Michigan team where Hoke inherited a few high quality very veteran pieces from Carr's recruiting and Rich's development, including the most devastating two way player in the nation. With that schedule, it was enough to win double digit games (with a little luck, see ND and VT)
The Rodriguez firing was about trajectory, direction, and sustainability. How do you want this thing to look in 10 years? It wasn't about whether Rodriguez would win 8 to 10 games at Michigan in year 4 or 5, because he likely would have.
The only way to know if the Hoke direction is the correct direction and whether it is sustainable, is to allow the boys to become upper classmen. Year 3 is too early on that front and is for any coach.
What we do know:
Recruiting is very good to elite by any objective measure. Veteran players have stuck by this guy and had some break out years playing for him and the staff even though he didn't recruit them. There is now definite NFL talent on the roster in guys like Lewan (3 years of development), Funchess (year 2) and Gardner (year 3). There are also borderline NFL level guys like Ross (year 2) and Ryan (year 3)
It could get better or it could get worse, but it's simply too early to judge. As emotional as we all are, we'd do well to try to face that.
|2 years 51 weeks ago||Needed more from the defense and it didn't deliver||
What he said word for word.
I agree with an earlier post about the defense today being a slightly bigger worry. Scheme wise, I think you have to be more aggressive against a guy like Cook and force him to make plays quickly and precisely. The longer he has to sit and wait for an open man to emerge, the more likely there will be an open man. Maybe use the athleticism you are recruiting and get them moving more in space like State does.
The Michigan offense needed big plays in the passing game to produce points against this defense. Every one knew it going in. Those plays are hard to come by with such little time play after play.
All this soft or not soft talk is a bunch of junk. Michigan is very young in the middle of the offensive line and ran into a veteran defense that attacks that area very very well.
People act surprised. They shouldn't be. Embarrassed is fine, but don't let it linger.
Unfortunately for all you impatient types, we can't honestly conclude anything about this staff and player development for another year or two minimum. Right now it's too many kids against too many men on other teams bringing disaster in certain games.
MSU played the men role to the extreme today and it was ugly.
Now about Coach Funk. The line does look disorganized in the middle and has all year, but let's see how it rebounds the rest of the year. This was not a good one to judge improvement because this is an excellent veteran defense at home.
There aren't easy answers. Continue to work and continue to give it time.
|3 years 9 weeks ago||Some of you need to take off||
Some of you need to take off your fan hat and see the reality of what constant head banging, especially along the line, can do to a person's brain. It's not the big hits. It's the repetitive helmet knocking and the brain rattling around in the helmet (which actually makes the vibrations worse).
It's bad for people to even have happen once. A college player literally will have had it happen over 1000 times in his life if he plays through.
I love the sport too, but it is only a game and it is becoming increasingly known that there are certain aspects of it which are very damaging.
Deal with it with an eye towards something besides your personal entertainment.
|3 years 30 weeks ago||Announcer downgrade IMO||
I am a little surprised CBS didn't grab the Florida Gulf Coast region which also includes three nationally popular schools and assign it to the A or B team.
Not loving going from Vern and Raftery, two great college announcers, to Albert and Kerr, two mostly pro guys.
|3 years 31 weeks ago||No question that the value of||
No question that the value of a University degree is as low as it's ever been and sinking ever lower. Still it represents an opportunity that, if you created a revenue sharing system that favored some larger schools over others, would be denied hundreds if not thousands of under-privileged border line students who are also stand-out athletes.
So many schools would simply drop out of the game completely that it would cripple educational opportunities.
There are plenty of ways to pool money from licensing of the athletes and share it among all the student athletes to their, while not creating destructive economics for many athletic programs.
Let's not forget, Michigan's black ink is not the norm, but the growing exception.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Sort of a miserable one trick pony in life. Kinda sad.||
Poster boy for the importance of balance in life as well wisely choosing sustainable outlets. His whole existence by most accounts was centered on being considered the best ever at a game where people toss a ball through a hoop. He did almost nothing to use his position to advance causes for the disadvantaged in his own race so as to risk upsetting his corporate handlers. Overall, way less relevant than he should have been.
After all that insane effort towards one goal, he sits retired and powerless. He has to listen to the growing chorus of people saying James is better. This is a guy that was still a title-less punchline less than 9 months ago. Show's how fleeting that whole obsessed goal was along.
Jordan has had the competitive outlet of executive and basically has been pretty indifferent to it. Guy was a tota ass when he played, so the lousy executive part has been fun to watch.
The greatest basketball player ever he is though. I don't see it even up for debate.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||Your last sentence or two is||
Your last sentence or two is well-reasoned. I think the ultimate fate of such laws rests with the question of costs for risk management and insurance. Insurers are going to be less likely to write or make policies of reasonable cost for cash strapped school districts or cash-strapped rec leagues.
Plus, the idea that kids and parents can sign something to fully assume the risk probably won't hold up in court. This is especially true given the ongoing suits involving the NFL and the still unknown outcome of ongoing studies. From a legal perspective you can't ask people to assume the risk of activities where there are risks that are unknown or should have been known by those offering the sport.
With no insurance, no sport. Michigan football can absorb the costs to get umbrella coverage. Caseville intermediate school district can't.
|3 years 39 weeks ago||I'd pick a different smack topic||
USC has 11 players in the rivals top 100. Michigan currently has 2 with 1 more likely.
Hatcher is barely dust in the wind for that class.
Let's all deal in facts. Bagging in USC's recruiting, regardless of the likability of their coach, makes everybody on here look lame.
|3 years 42 weeks ago||I was in Los Angeles at the||
I was in Los Angeles at the end of November. If you haven't spent time there, the lifestyle tangibles blow the midwest away. Start with 300 plus sunny days a year and list them out. USC is private too, so no state imposed red tape if they want to pay their assistants huge money. He'll got a monster raise if he takes the job.
|3 years 42 weeks ago||Feeling way better about the||
Feeling way better about the State game next year the more I watch them play. I can't picture their offense being much better than what we saw this year. If Bell and Sims, bolt probably worse. Neither of those quarterbacks present many problems for a defense.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||Come on! Have you been||
Come on! Have you been watching these games? No one is going to any of them. The fans have caught on and they are basically all crappy bowls.
It's the number 1 reason the playoff thing is happening. The TV ratings are starting to get as abysmal as the attendance to these games. The networks weren't going to give out the huge contract to show this stuff for a few more years and demanded more meaningful games. The public at large isn't buying in with this junk anymore. When Nebraska fans fail to show up, you know it's crappy.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||Pets should live as long as||
Pets should live as long as people if not longer if years were granted based on truly selfless love given.
We'll be looking for good things in your next update tomorrow.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||It has been good today. A lot||
It has been good today. A lot less of the old schtick of super stars playing iso and then drawing a call on a drive to the hole.
The Lakers showed more than a pulse. What are your impressions of them and do you think they have the upside with this roster to be a threat come May?
|3 years 43 weeks ago||I actually like him on||
I actually like him on Detroit. They need a post scoring option and he'd be their best offensive player right off the jump. So it's an upgrade. Unload those trash contracts you speak of too.
Now just find a way to convince the Knicks to do it..... Since Isiah isn't running things anymore, I have my doubts.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||I am wracking my brain on||
I am wracking my brain on where he'd fit in. I actually like him as a 6th man for Oklahoma City. He gives them a post option. I am talking limited minutes though. He's too much of a black hole and plays no defense to log heavy minutes for a good team with promise.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||Yeah. Right on. I do think||
Yeah. Right on. I do think that people who throw them out with morning trash because they are old and can't run this system, need to watch the games. Dantoni has his faults such as pedestrian knowledge of defense, but he is already taking the offense and molding it to the size and age issues. Nash is the key and he'll set the pace and it doesn't have to be Phoenix 6 years ago to be devastating.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||If he can defend and give||
If he can defend and give them 15 high energy minutes, him nailing that 3 or scoring at all is just gravy.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||Plus they don't rebound well.||
Plus they don't rebound well. I just don't see them shooting like this to win meaningful series in May. Teams get out and play tighter and with more energy then in a random game in December.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||I agree. I think it goes to||
I agree. I think it goes to the larger issue with the Lakers. The coach knows after a month of watching that they have glaring weaknesses amid all the star power and he's trying to patch those up. It just isn't a very talented bottom 2/3 of the roster.
The height advantage he has in most games gives him some wiggle room to experiment at the 2 and 3 positions. I just don't see the supporting cast.
On the positive, we can see already Nash will make the offense much better. If Howard is actually an All Star dominating center defensively, they could be tough. He may not be anymore though.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||He gives them a little more||
He gives them a little more athleticism. It's a good move from that stand point against a very old Knicks team. It also frees them up to get Jordan Hill more into the rotation. Again, more athleticism.
I can see where you are coming from on Artest, but he's no longer much better than a good or slightly above average defender.
|3 years 44 weeks ago||The players loved the EL||
The players loved the EL jerseys last season don't forget. By all accounts, they went nuts when they came back from warm ups and saw them sitting in the lockers. We all need to embrace the idea that this game is for the players and future players. They are the lifeblood. They come first.
If you embrace that, the uniforms are a lot easier to accept or at least understand.
|3 years 50 weeks ago||Great to hear and it's good||
Great to hear and it's good to talk to a grown up. Might hopefully rub off on me.
Pretty much any place in the Southland is great to be and live in my book. Love that place. I'll be there 5 days so if you can get into town, we'll have to get together and chew the fat.
I'd like to pick your brain about your favorite restaurants. If you can make time, shoot email me at [email protected]? Whatever you can do I'd be so appreciative. It's been 7 years since I have been in Los Angeles. When I was there before I worked so many hours in my brief stay I basically lived off McDonalds and Corn Nuts driving around in a car all day.
|3 years 50 weeks ago||Good point on Haden||
You can definitely be a power program up there and if Kelly leaves Oregon for the pros (as is widely rumored), the North goes back to Washington as a lead dog most likely. So him leaving is remote I agree.
I am coming out for Notre Dame on the 24th. I am going to the Michigan-Ohio watch Saturday morning at American Junkie in Hermosa Beach. Is that where you go? I'd like to buy you a couple rounds.
|3 years 50 weeks ago||good points||
Well I think from what you are saying and what I am reading fans already are wanting a change. The issue is more about Pat Haden and what his plans are. By most accounts they have a great working relationship. When given the chance to distance himself from Kiffin since taking over as AD, Haden has done totally the opposite. Recall that Kiffin was under the gun from the NCAA over stuff from his Tennessee seasonand Haden looked at it and subsequently backed him unequivocally. Even appearing on his behalf before the committee on infractions.
My guess is the things working in Lane's favor currently with Haden are:
--His age and his desire to remain at the school for as long as he coaches which brings attractive continuity
--His excellence in recruiting
--His having to deal with a talent dip left by Pete's two very weak last 2 full classes in terms of offensive linemen, d linemen, and linebackers. The 08 and 09 classes whiffed heavily on quality o linemen and left the new regime scrambling and rebuilding quality depth. When we say out talent other teams, that's true and it's not. The trenches matter and they weren't being addressed adequately before Lane took over.
--His guiding them through probation and two very high quality wins last season.
--He is considered a bright mind offensively in a lot of circles
--The lack of reasonable alternatives that bring the above attributes to the table. One guy who would fit the mold and would bring a smoother presence with the media and probably a more likable reputation overall would be Sarkisian at UW. Now if he is at all available after next season, Kiffin's seat gets very hot with a 3 plus loss season. Sark was very popular in Los Angeles and has all of Lane's upside without the side shows that seem to erupt.
It will be interesting and I do think there will absolutely be staff changes in the off season barring a rally to end all and a Rose Bowl berth.
|3 years 50 weeks ago||Kiffin's back, almost 100% lock||
I follow the team pretty close and he's safe unless there is something huge on the violations front. He's an outstanding recruiter. People's expectations were maybe not in line with reality this season. There were lots of road games and the PAC is a lot better league than when Carroll was running over it every year. USC is mostly a young team and will have 17 starters back next year. Plus they'll have really only 3 difficult games with two of them at home and no Oregon.
We all saw the difference the home-road thing made this season with Michigan.
Now if he goes 8-4 next year, the seat might be heating up.
This offseason don't be surprised if there are staff changes made including his dad retiring as defensive coordinator and maybe hiring an offensive coordinator/quarterback's coach. My understanding is his relationship with Barkley is unnecessarily prickly and a buffer between the quarterback and coach might be in order. These changes will be an almost certainty if they don't beat UCLA and lose the south.
|3 years 50 weeks ago||????? What????||
If it suits Brady Hoke, it suits Michigan. They are one in the same and he's not worried about anything besides the success of the Michigan team when he speaks. We had our three years of the super coach who had to be everybody's smooth operator and the smartest guy in the room. It was a disaster.
As an action and results guy, he'd probably caution us to give meaning to the product he is in charge of taking the field and the quality of men who emerge from his program. I doubt he'd care if any of us give any weight to his meanderings to the media about subjects which aren't their business in the first place.
|3 years 51 weeks ago||it's about who has the better players too||
If you listen to Hoke in the post game last night it was more pointed than the usual coach speak about the offense. He seemed fatigued from the lack of touchdowns. I think what we are seeing this season is a back and forth balancing act. Notre Dame tipped the playcalling more conservative and it worked for a while.
Now they'll probably look to add on some more wide open type stuff hoping it can be done without lots of turnovers. We just don't have great talent at the skill positions right now, especially when Denard is out. Seriously any of Nebraska's front line skill guys we saw last night would start for Michigan. Same thing with State and probably Notre Dame.
As great as he is, the existence of Denard has probably caused receivers and backs to shy away the last couple classes. Especially the receivers. If you are a kid who is wanting to go NFL, you are looking at an offense that is vanilla college spread with tons of quarterback runs and a quarterback who is hit and miss with his accuracy.
You are going to say thanks but no thanks. Really what we are seeing is more a product of the transition back to a pro style offense than anything. All that aside, if Denard stays upright, this team can absolutely win out.
|3 years 52 weeks ago||Meh. The same old same old with Rich Rod||
As a USC follower who never misses a game, that was one of the 2 worst games USC has played since Paul Hackett was put out of his misery after 2000. The other being the 2009 loss to Stanford at home where Harbaugh ran it up on Carroll. Taking nothing away from Arizona, but their defensive line literally got no push for 90% of the plays.
For whatever reason, USC piled up unforced turnovers and double digit penalties at an alarming rate.
Arizona was actually pretty awful too, but they have a quarterback that can chuck it and they hit a couple big plays. Arizona was doing a lot of the same bonehead penalties and weak fundamentals in areas not pertaining to his offense we all cursed when he was here at Michigan. On the game coaching front, he almost really cost them by getting greedy going for an unnecessary 2 point conversion in the 3rd quarter. Plus he can't resist blowing up over and over again right in player's faces. The same stuff we rag on Brian Kelly for all the time. it looks just as bad and childish when he does it.
No denying that Rich is doing a pretty good job down there but he inherited a very talented quarterback and running back with experience tailor made for his system. I'll bet they take a step back when their 5th year quarterback leaves after the season. Let's see him coach some people up in the next couple years and see if we look at him with the same reverence.
|4 years 6 days ago||The guy in the window in the||
The guy in the window in the Aaron Rodgers "Discount Double Check" commercial I think. I'll go back and check the DVR.
|4 years 6 days ago||He was playing to win. Just||
He was playing to win. Just like on that fake punt. Major respect to him and his team.
|4 years 6 days ago||You can put a stranglehold on||
You can put a stranglehold on the legends next week in Lincoln. Important win.
|4 years 6 days ago||perfectly put||
|4 years 6 days ago||only down a point, just stay||
only down a point, just stay steady and get the ball back.
|4 years 1 week ago||A neutral site game to||
A neutral site game to replace a road game is a smart economic play. As long as it is against a good enough team to help enhance stature under the new playoff system, Michigan should do more rather than less
|4 years 1 week ago||Remember that the Michigan||
Remember that the Michigan players went nuts when they saw those waiting for them in the locker room in East Lansing last year. They loved them and the game is for them first and foremost.
The fact that square older people like us didn't like them shouldn't be the deciding factor.
|4 years 1 week ago||Mortenson was saying on ESPN||
Mortenson was saying on ESPN Radio today that there will a couple NFL teams that will be making a hard play for Kelly to become their coach. He thinks he will leave this time. Cleveland is one that apparently might be interested. Jacksonville could use some sizzle as well.
The NCAA deal is moving at a glacial pace but notice of allegations should be coming down anytime. They are likely looking a severe beatdown in sanctions. This is Kelly's last season there in all likelihood.
Enjoy the show while it lasts. It is fun to watch. Amazing in some ways.
|4 years 1 week ago||The guy that keeps them as||
The guy that keeps them as pets has some serious brass.
|4 years 1 week ago||One thing that stood out was||
One thing that stood out was Hoke talking about the defensive line playing against a physical power running attack after two weeks of spread teams. I'd love to get Brian's take on how close State and ND are in terms of how they approach blocking in the run game. Michigan was pretty solid in South Bend.
Michigan also saw the mother of power running teams in week 1. The d line's ability to keep the linebackers clean like they've been doing is a huge deal for Saturday.
|4 years 2 weeks ago||Great line. I don't want to||
I don't want to lose of course, but that jaw disengagement trick sounds pretty nifty too.
|4 years 2 weeks ago||great recap as always Brian||
While listening to Hoke's post game interview with Brando, I had to double check with my cousin that Michigan did in fact win. Keeping with the 70's theme, it was Bo redux. Classic.
|4 years 3 weeks ago||I wouldn't go overboard about||
I wouldn't go overboard about the superiority of the Tigers rotation; they have a huge advantage playing a schedue with about half their games made up of weaker line-ups in the division. I am including Chicago.
When you can basically throw the ball over the plate and know at worst a guy will get a single, that's a huge edge and makes life easy for your pitcher. They faced line ups made up of weaker hitters for a good chunk of the year.
|4 years 3 weeks ago||Man what's wrong with||
Man what's wrong with everyone.? This comment should be max points by now. LOL
|4 years 3 weeks ago||Isn't the NCAA creating||
Isn't the NCAA creating standards for player protection in these situations? The answer is yes, but without independant medical evaluation, the process is easy to abuse. There aren't any penalties apparent for violations either.
This says that they should be cleared by a health-care professional, but unlike the NFL you don't have a union which demands that professional be independent from the team. Also unlike high school, you don't have parents in close contact with the coaches or team officials monitoring safety. Teams and coachs at the level of Big Ten have a lot of autonomy not seen at any other level of the sport.
|4 years 3 weeks ago||It's harder to dominate now||
It's harder to dominate now then ever. Kids regularly play on TV no matter which school they choose. With the power of internet, they can check out schools outside of their locale without ever getting on a plane. Plus, there is little danger with sophisticated scouting that they'll be overlooked when the pros come calling.
I think it's generally more balanced FBS wide.
|4 years 4 weeks ago||One aspect of your excellent||
One aspect of your excellent point you didn't allude to but was mentioned right when Hoke took over: the defense benefits greatly from playing against more power oriented running schemes as opposed to a spread every day in practice. I know Brian scoffed at the concept, but we couldn't argue with the improvement of last year's defense and you have to figure it was at least a partial factor.
Watch Arizona or better yet Oregon defend against a really good team that can power run the football. Yeah you can argue that Oregon doesn't care because of that offense. It mattered when they played USC last year, LSU last year, and Auburn in the BCS title game the year before. The games that make or break your season, you have to compete in the trenches on defense. Especially in the Big Ten.
So there are vitally importan program-wide considerations for not just running a close cousin of the Rich Rod spread all day. These extend beyond worrying about matching outdated stats of one player. These considerations meant 11 wins last year.
|4 years 4 weeks ago||The idea that he is rigid in||
The idea that he is rigid in one style is totally not true. Go back and watch tape of what he did with Jason Campbell taking Auburn to an undefeated season in 04 and Cade McNown for a 1 loss UCLA team in the late 90s.
Borges basically made those guys into high draft picks.
|4 years 4 weeks ago||After reading a lot of these,||
After reading a lot of these, I plan to gloat about not being married. :)
|4 years 4 weeks ago||This offense is already fully tailored to Denard-- common sense||
Borges is fine. They practice this stuff too many times to count every day. What's good for his job and the team is to call things Denard can run effectively against a given defense on each play.
He has no incentive to be stupid by making the quarterback do something he can't do. When the lights are on, sometimes the quarterback simply doesn't do it like he did it in practice. Maybe it's pressure? Maybe his improved mechanics disappear in game situations? Maybe he is easily fooled by certain wrinkles?
If he did those plays in practice the way he did it Saturday, it wouldn't get called. If a determination was made he couldn't execute the things needed to win that day's game, you'd have a different guy under center.
It's a hard thing to admit, but sometimes the obvious but uncomfortable truth is: Denard at his best gives Michigan it's best chance to win, but that isn't what a better quarterback (not currently on the roster) could give Michigan. So we accept the results.
There just isn't any evidence that what they are doing with him isn't what is best for the football team. Bloated 2010 stats against Bowling Green is weak. There is way more evidence that how he is doing it is the problem. Hurling him into the line on lead draws play after play works here and there but it isn't sustainable against good teams. 2010 proved that.
If they are passing the rock with these plays, you can bet he's better at these in practice then all the alternatives we see suggested here and on other fan sites.
We ran into these same issues in 2010 when the team could only muster 7 wins against all lousy teams and defenses. The big boys shut him down until the games were blow outs.
Doing it Borges way (based on what he sees can actually Denard do), got that number up to 11 wins including some actual quality wins.
|4 years 4 weeks ago||straddle the fence I will||
Good to send a message to your fan base and players that what went on out there wasn't acceptable.
However, I do agree with the poster who said that the media has been a huge ally of his and his program since day 1. If the ski mask thing happens at Michigan, I don't know if the coach there ever lives it down. As it was he got to cherry pick the best players to keep on the squad and the story basically blew over in a week or two.
He'd be wise to take that into consideration. The guy has sort of a dour negative way about him to begin with. No sense perpetuating it.
|4 years 5 weeks ago||If Black can hold up inside,||
If Black can hold up inside, and Washington is what we are hearing (and seeing): just no one get hurt and hope exists. It's sad that this program has to stare down a senior year with Will not even starting, but we need to adjust the sails according to the wind.
Next year, throw Pipkins and Wormley into the mix plus a bulked up Mario O, and also Beyer. and Heitzman. Only down Roh. Well things are looking up.
|4 years 5 weeks ago||RJS is by all accounts a||
RJS is by all accounts a freak athlete. He'll add size over time, but plenty of teams have great linebackers who are undersized. He might see the field on defense sooner than we realize with one good offseason. Your point about the fact of his current position on the depth chart is well taken though. It does make you wonder.
|4 years 5 weeks ago||Along the lines of what John||
Along the lines of what John Bacon said in his book about ex-Michigan players when Bo told them there was a need for help.
|4 years 5 weeks ago||The shocked reaction of State||
The shocked reaction of State fan this week only proves what we all knew but couldn't say without being called "sour grapes": they aren't a fan base that has any point of reference for what playing championship football yearly looks like.
When you lose a 4 year starting quarterback and receivers who seemingly were there even longer, how can you reasonably expect things like an MNC (I swear I heard it from over 10 of them) when you don't recruit above 3 star level save a rare player?
They still hang on to that "unbelievable" defense even after ND threw two touchdowns on them right off the bat and then coasted home. When some team blows up the apocrypha of the epic defense, get ready for some more classic posts on that blog.
Maybe that team they play on October 20 will handle that?
|4 years 5 weeks ago||Notre Dame can be had through||
Notre Dame can be had through the air. Michigan can beat both teams if it can put together a productive passing game.
The two losses last year, Michigan was one dimensional which allowed Iowa and State to simply overload the box.
Virginia Tech was an outlier that was the same as those games save a couple big plays.
Everyone needs to be patient with the play selection against both teams because running Denard a lot right from the jump won't get it done offensively. Neither team will let Denard beat them with his feet.
|4 years 6 weeks ago||I look forward to what I am||
I look forward to what I am going to read in the "loss will cause me to" section every week. I guess I can't shake the image of Brian in the smoking jacket had Michigan lost to Illinois last year.
"Life. Don't talk to me about Life."
|4 years 6 weeks ago||Brandon's desire to keep||
Brandon's desire to keep going with the the Notre Dame series proves what we all suspected: He has started reading Brian's stuff. Two great minds in synchronicity, creating the future?
|4 years 6 weeks ago||Bad title on this||
Bad title on this thread.
"Guys who think life is better being married. Guess again."
Could one of the mods help make the correction?
|4 years 6 weeks ago||Read Sten's Post||
He nails it.
|4 years 6 weeks ago||Where's the beef (sheet)?||
I looked at every post and maybe I missed it, but does anyone have the copy of the prosecutor's factual allegations? I assume that because Frank is a minor, those docs are sealed?
Without that, we don't know the facts as alleged. We know the general charges. Remember Josh Furhman was accused of something bad. Facts came out that proved it to be something that shouldn't have been prosecuted.
Here we may be dealing with something similar, but from a legal standpoint Frank and his counsel are accepting the plea to avoid the risk (and time expense) of a trial verdict. Prosecutors sometimes have no leeway to drop charges in certain fact scenerios even if they want to. Maybe this is such a case? We don't know.
I'll be willing to bet, based on how Hoke has dealt with things in the past, that the facts here are not anywhere near what springs to mind from these charges. I just don't see him harboring a kid that used forced entry breaking into a stranger or semi-stranger's room looking for expensive stuff to flip into cash.
Facts do matter in these cases because they can make the difference between poor character and simply bad judgment.
I was listening to MSM on the way home and people are blasting away at Hoke, but I still haven't heard any facts of the case
|4 years 6 weeks ago||Blunt, but there's a lot of||
Blunt, but there's a lot of meat and potatos there.
The reality is it's a balancing act with the coach weighing a lot of different considerations. Too far one way, and you bury a kid for good. Too far the other and you put the integrity of the program in jeopardy.
The way he handled Stonum proved that football-related on field need is not a foremost consideration with this coach. Stonum was far more of a proven commodity than Frank Clark and at a position so thin, Michigan is retraining quarterbacks to fill in.
I look at it like this: Hoke's not afraid to tell a guy good bye. He could have made an example of Frank Clark and gotten the approval of basically everyone outside the program. In this case he chose to stick with a kid that might turn into a good player or might be just pretty average.
If this wasn't about on-field football considerations foremost, I don't have a lot of complaints.
|4 years 6 weeks ago||Sorry 4, weeks for Purdue.||
Sorry 4 weeks for Purdue. That's even better.
|4 years 6 weeks ago||Lots of room to improve but||
Lots of room to improve but luckily the schedule allows time. I think in terms of this team's goals, the season starts in Purdue in 3 weeks and is fully determined starting with State then Nebraska back to back late in October.
Denard and the receivers seem to be greatly improved in the area of breaking off routes on hot reads to combat blitzes. That's going to help them in games to keep teams honest. State barrelled 8 guys at the line all game last year and Michigan had no answers.
|4 years 6 weeks ago||Michigan has a senior||
Michigan has a senior quarterback who is also one of the top players in the country. That matters. I like them as the favorite. Let's wait and see some head to head games. There isn't one team in this conference that doesn't have serious issues in some places.
If Notre Dame scores a bunch of points on State next week which could happen, who is the favorite then?
|4 years 7 weeks ago||Don't give up on Borges and Robinson in 2012||
Against a defense that athletic and big, lots of things can look bad if they aren't run right. Things are hard to run right because they are that athletic and big. The great dilemma of football which is a game of constant physical friction every bit as much as scheme.
The only examples we have of Denard dominating big talented defenses are Ohio and Nebraska from last year. That alone should give us hope that the Borges/Denard is a match that can work. Denard's big big games against low caliber defenses are meaningless because you find a way to beat those teams regardless. The season ultimately turns on winning more of the games that matter against real teams. You don't get standing ovations with the Sugar Bowl trophy in tow at Crisler for 300 yards and 3 running TDs against Minnesota or Bowling Green.
This quarterback and this offensive coordinator have both won and had highly productive stat games together against good defenses. With another year in tandem and no more Bama defense on the schedule, my money is on them delivering a few more.
|4 years 7 weeks ago||Well lots of people are||
Well lots of people are saying it could be. Look at the YPC stats of their last 3 teams. They are the running equivalent of what Texas Tech was to the passing game.
For guys like us, the discussion is pretty subjective. I'd probably go with a guy like Michigan's linebacker's coach who said prior to the game that they very well could be v. our opinion of what we think we are seeing.
The rest of the season will show us whether you are overreacting or not. That game was not a fair measure because of the experience and NFL level talent against them.
|4 years 7 weeks ago||Interesting take. Terrible||
Terrible is sort of a snap judgment. Football being a game of resistance, you run into the Alabama offensive line and you could tend to look terrible. Many people say it could be the best ever in college football.
So the jury is out. Count me as worried for sure.
Offensive line will probably be fine. There are veterans and it's well coached. Losing Molk didn't help though.
|4 years 7 weeks ago||Miami in 88 was amazing.||
Miami in 88 was amazing. Michigan played great that day and was a Rose Bowl winning team that season in it's own right.
That was a tweener year for Miami as they missed out on the National Title because of a very controversial 1 point loss at Notre Dame. That Miami team beat no. 1 Florida State by 30, No. 11 LSU by 40 in Baton Rouge, and No. 6 Nebraska by 20 in the Orange Bowl.
I thought the 2011 Michigan State Spartans also just on the basis of being the toughest in the history of the game maybe. No one's mentioned them.
|4 years 7 weeks ago||Since Michigan replaced a||
Since Michigan replaced a road game on the schedule, this game made a bunch of money where Michigan would have otherwised lost money going to someone's home stadium? Am I wrong?
|4 years 7 weeks ago||I only saw a couple people||
I only saw a couple people make mention of it. He couldn't get the elite talent to MSU mostly because of the presence of Michigan in the state. If both schools are offering, generally Michigan will be ahead of MSU for the committment. That's true every year except for the Rich Rodriguez years.
Dantonio's success likely never happens if he showed up when Carr is young and has the staff he had in the mid-90s. It would likely look a lot more like Saban's level of success while at MSU.
As it was, he came right when Michigan was going through a sloppy transition with an aging coach that wasn't high energy on the recruiting trail anymore, who had no likely successor on the staff. Then Michigan earmarks an unpopular outsider who deemphasizes the very thing Dantonio does emphasize: defense AND who installs a totally new system with an emphasis on smaller quicker offensive players.
Dantonio's done a great job. But as it relates to his dominance of Michigan and finishing ahead of Michigan in the standings, his timing was almost too good to be true.
The way Saban recruits, I am sleeping better at night that it's Dantonio who took over in 07 and not Saban. This would be a much harder hole to climb out of with Saban running things.
|4 years 7 weeks ago||I do remember that one of the||
I do remember that one of the hang ups to Texas joining the SEC was their demand that the academic standards for football players be equalized among member schools. The request was specifically aimed at Alabama.
Alabama was having none of it.
|4 years 7 weeks ago||Everybody except a couple||
Everybody except a couple guys who have demonstrated football knowledge over time on here is doing the equivalent of speculating on nuclear fusion where their greatest level of experience is putting a lighter to their rump and farting.
This run Denard more argument is tiring. Check Denard's running stats against like State or Virginia Tech last year. Probably the best two defenses Michigan played. Big physical defenses with excellent coaching all keyed on the lead draw (Denard's bread and butter play) He didn't do anything in either game.
Those two teams wish they had a defense like Bama. Throw in maybe the best offensive line in college football against your shakey defensive line and it's blowout city. Running Denard more would not have prevented that and perhaps injured him. Then the whole season is in jeopardy.
If you can't execute pass plays when teams are stacking the box, you can't quarterback for Michigan. He can but he needs guys to catch and run the right routes.
|4 years 7 weeks ago||No way. There are a half||
No way. There are a half dozen future pros on that Bama defense minimum. Ohio you are getting closer. State no way.
|4 years 7 weeks ago||Scheme, sphmeeme. Blocking||
Scheme, sphmeeme. Blocking and Tackling. They have guys who are better at it currently and were way better at it tonight.
I can already foresee complaints on here that Denard didn't run enough. Bull. When you play teams like Alabama, you have to win the one on one matchups and make plays when they are there. Michigan didn't do any of those things.
Playcalling was fine.
|4 years 7 weeks ago||Agree. The tackling was bad||
Agree. The tackling was bad too. It will get cleaned up. Playing this level of competition will really help Michigan for league play.
|4 years 8 weeks ago||This program is in great||
This program is in great hands with this coach. Great short and long term move for the two kids involved and the program.
|4 years 8 weeks ago||Playing in the games are the||
Playing in the games are the fun part for everyone who has ever played any sport. A true punishment for a very serious offense like this should take that into account. People who are trying to rest on "internal" punishment, in my opinion lose the ability to ever ride Dantonio about his "leadership counsel" handing out internal punishment over the Rucker mess two years ago or in the future. You can't have it both ways.
|4 years 8 weeks ago||I think Albuquerque is 4||
I think Albuquerque is 4 hours drive or maybe Lubbock like the above poster mentioned. Long way to travel to see it on TV, but for the bigger games it might be an idea if you can't get the game locally.
|4 years 8 weeks ago||Feel sorry for the kid, but||
Feel sorry for the kid, but he might still get back by playoff time. Seriously if you are the school that gets him, this is not necessarily a bad thing. It will save on a lot of pounding. A guy like this probably gets 30 touches a game and teams are surely gunning for him.
You know he'll be working like a mad man on his conditioning too.
USC got themselves a stud.
|4 years 8 weeks ago||Thank You!||
|4 years 9 weeks ago||Very productive in an area||
Very productive in an area with lots of great players competing. My guess is the size and he might not have the sick hose like the 4 or 5 star guys. Not sure.
Some of those same criticisms were used with Barkley too.
|4 years 9 weeks ago||This guy has that hard to||
This guy has that hard to define "it" quality that comes from your gut. From his background, to his all around excellence in whatever he does, to the hell on wheels energy in those highlights. It's like he is seeing things that aren't being seen by the guys chasing him and also 5 steps ahead.
I'll lay money with anyone that wants to go a beer on it that when this class graduates fully and finally in 4 years, he'll be one of the guys we'll really miss and never forget.
Don't forget people scoffed at Bo when he was bragging up Desmond Howard before he ever saw the field. He was too small as well.
|4 years 9 weeks ago||The State fans wanted||
The State fans wanted Narduzzi's butt on a platter a couple years ago, so let's see him do it a few more years. No one is touching Dantonio after those health issues a couple years ago. Prior to that, someone would have hired him away for sure.
|4 years 9 weeks ago||He was and I admit to not||
He was and I admit to not thinking much of it at the time. He had a weak offer list and on video he looked like a west Michigan kid running around slower smaller west Michigan kids.
I couldn't have been more wrong.
|4 years 9 weeks ago||If my only news about the||
If my only news about the comings and goings of Brandon as athletic director came from UV, I'd be really nervous about the state of U of M sports.
Brian is one heck of a writer and football mind, but Brandon is a topic where this reality and outside reality seemingly never meet (save the band fiasco, which was quickly corrected).
Brian sticks to his guns and for that he is to be admired.