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9 hours 46 min ago I'm not sure how that follows.

It turned out that a tie was almost the same as a loss, so how could sacrificing one opportunity to take the lead be correct?

1 day 29 min ago Then you're probably a fan of

Then you're probably a fan of "the Coach" too.

1 day 3 hours ago agreed

But I would consider Stanford if they canceled their series with ND to play us.

1 day 22 hours ago MLive isn't so bad,

as long as you completely avoid the comment sections.

3 days 3 hours ago disagree on many points

1. PAC-12 picked up Utah and Colorado before negotiating with UT, OU et al.                            2. The Big 12 needs to add schools just to have a championship game. I'd be shocked if they turned down someone like FSU because they are too far away.                                                   3. UVA as a "crown jewel" seems like a reach, as does their relationship with UNC and the idea that they are tied to VT.                                                                                                                4. GT was supposedly very interested in joining the Big Ten. They would be a viable candidate if the finances of leaving the ACC can be worked out.                                                5. I don't understand why the ACC would collapse if they lost a couple of schools to the Big Ten. Losing UNC would be tough, but what about losing UVA and GT? UConn would love to join and, as you pointed out, they already have 15 teams.                                                          6. Other conferences haven't exactly been following the Big Ten's lead in expansion. The SEC went to 14 before us. The PAC-12 was negotiating to go to 16 while we were at 12 and the Big 12 is sitting at 10. The Big Ten going to 16 may mean nothing to them, or they may decide to expand first.                                                                                                                                  7.  Oklahoma and OK St. reportedly approached the Big Ten about membership. I don't think OU is necessarily all that tied to UT. In fact, if the SEC were to expand I think they would take a run at OU first.                                                                                                                                 8. Expansion may well be dead for now for the Big Ten, but it would be because all of the attractive candidates (other than ND) are in the ACC and signed that rights deal.                      9. The SEC wanting Duke was a joke, right? 

3 days 9 hours ago I believe it's being called

I believe it's being called "slot corner" in some of the recruiting reports here.

3 days 19 hours ago should try his hand at music

I'd recommend he start making music videos. It shouldn't be hard to make something that will get his release in a "mutual" decision.

4 days 6 hours ago MSU should do this too.

MSU should do this too.

6 days 10 hours ago I would add MSU to your list.

I would add MSU to your list. It's got to be tough to hang onto recruits who are hoping for a better offer.

1 week 10 hours ago Why hate the pay sites and not the free ones?

If your concern is the KIDS, well both are hounding therm. Many of the free sites are trying to make money too. They are just doing it without paid subscribers and paywalled articles.

1 week 1 day ago They were also just the Rainbows,

at least according to one of my old shirts. 

1 week 1 day ago Is PSU doing a good job with this class?

How many players will they have room for? I've heard 13. If true, they're mostly full already and have 4 WRs. It looks like O'Brien's strategy is to fill up his class early. From the outside, it seems he could be aiming higher. Not only is he getting some 4* commits, getting interest from Peppers has to help even if he doesn't land him. 

1 week 2 days ago I am afraid you misread the headline.

It asks whether "athletics" have too much power at PSU, not "athletes".

1 week 2 days ago not my idea of a sensational headline

Did PSU give a reason for replacing the doctor? It sounded like there was a conflict between the trainer and the doctor that O'Brien and Joyner decided by replacing the doctor.

1 week 2 days ago Here's a timeliine.

Feb 2012 - Bill O'Brien brings in a long time NFL trainer to be the new head trainer. Jan 2013 - PSU hires an outside law firm to investigate complaints about the new trainer. Feb 2013 - O'Brien recommends the school replace the team doctor. Now - After reassigning the doctor as O'Brien requested, PSU is trying to make the move sound like a promotion. 

1 week 4 days ago Using the past to predict the future,

if he visits as scheduled, the coaches will take his commitment.

1 week 4 days ago He's been here four years.

Sam Webb said he will be eligible to play right away as a grad student transfer.

1 week 6 days ago There is no question about taking them.

As to where they will all fit in, that will sort itself out after they get into practices. Any imbalances can be addressed in the 2015 class.

2 weeks 2 days ago You could probably say the same thing

about 15 different schools, every one of them lacking Nebraska's geographic disadvantage.

2 weeks 2 days ago One answer.

I'm pretty sure we are already giving out the maximum number of scholarships for all of our teams.

2 weeks 2 days ago Impending sanctions were a big problem.

Getting the actual penalties was a relief. The period of waiting for them was extended and painful, affecting our ability to hire a coach and recruiting. We should have done better than Ellerbe, but our options were severely limited. I still remember Roger Reid turning us down and his other prospects were nil. 

2 weeks 3 days ago Aren't you missing out on useful information?

I'd like to know whether the services rank him about the same or have significant disagreement. Could their rankings vary because they project him to different positions, list different measurables, etc?

2 weeks 3 days ago Thank you.

The whole idea that the coaches needed to push Ringer out because they oversigned is very irritating. At the very least, they only need to not offer Mike Jones a fifth year. Does anyone really think they are pushing Ringer out so they can keep Jones around?  

2 weeks 4 days ago Yes, how horrible.

They want to visit the kid first and find out what's going on before releasing him.

2 weeks 4 days ago Frank either badly overplayed his hand

or was trying to get fired. He was hardly in a position to make contract demands after this season and did anyway.

2 weeks 4 days ago Illinois had the highest paid assistant

in the Big Ten a few years ago. Being willing to pay doesn't guarantee getting top flight coaching.

2 weeks 6 days ago not necessarily

University of Kansas = KU, Univeristy of Missouri = MU, are two examples.

3 weeks 1 day ago The "how" is a problem too.

The authors of the report cited, the one comparing the relative salaries of faculty, presidents and coaches, suggest reducing the number of football scholarships to 60, capping coach's salaries at around $400K and cutting spending for non-revenue sports. They also advocate revenue sharing among schools.

3 weeks 1 day ago Yeah, I don't see that.

Not questioning anyone's reporting, but I will be shocked if we only take 1 DB in this class.

3 weeks 1 day ago Paterno

How fitting that his post-bye numbers are the worst after negotiating all those byes before joining the Big Ten. 

3 weeks 1 day ago interesting point of view

I can't picture any NBA team being intimidated by any of the team names.

3 weeks 2 days ago These are not the same kinds of risk, though.

These are not the same kinds of risk, though. The Daryl Stingley type injuries are very rare. There is a difference between assuming the risk of a serious, but rare injury as opposed to serious injuries caused by an accumulation of normal hits. It's a little like flying in an airplane. We all know the plane could crash and most will assume that risk because it's so small. If we learned that there were also toxins in the air inside the cabins with serious risk to prolonged exposure, would we just write that off in the same way?  

In a similar vein, players might be well aware that suffering multiple concussions is dangerous. They also can have reasonably expect the opportunity to retire before it became too big of a risk for them. Certainly we have seen examples of that. Especially college athletes might trust the team doctors to protect them. The danger from repeated sub-concussive injuries isn't really comparable in terms of seeing an increased risk. Plenty of former players are now wondering what damage they might have unknowingly suffered.   

Football has taken measures to minimize the likelyhood of spinal injuries like Stingly's. They have taken steps to protect players who may have suffered concussions. Why shouldn't they try to lessen the risk from sub-cussive injuries?

3 weeks 2 days ago We are all aware of the risks?

Sorry, but that's just ridiculous. We are aware that there are risks, yes, but we are still learning just what they are. Were we worried about sub-concussive blows a decade ago, a year ago? I don't think very many were. Some people don't seem to be today. Beyond that, a step to limit hitting in spring practice sounds like an excellent example of how to reduce risks without changing the game.

3 weeks 2 days ago Purdue's AD going public with this?

It seems stupid, you have a point there. The outrage? It seems misplaced as to every other point. I fail to see anything resembling extortion, blackmail or threats. Purdue is certainly entitled to try and persuade a player from transferring. I dare say that happens all over. As far as paying for John Hart in a similar situation, you pointed out the difference. They weren't going to offer him a fifth year. Helping him transfer without havng to sit out a season was the right thing to do under those circumstances, even if they weren't obligated to do so. Bo Ryan took heat for placing unreasonable roadblocks to a player's transfer. There's nothing unreasonable about asking a player who's left the program to pay his own way. 

3 weeks 3 days ago A few weeks ago,

Geno Smith was supposed to go #1 according to some of the mock drafts. Damontre Moore was considered a possibility for the Lions at #6. He went at #81. There's no way to tell where Barkley would have gone once teams looked at him closely, but I suspect this year's draft is a better indicator than the early mocks.

3 weeks 3 days ago They can grey-shirt, then red- shirt if they defer enrollment

for a semester. In that case, they are no different than an EE from the following HS class.

3 weeks 3 days ago People complained every week about Ace's rankings,

even after he explained the simple system he devised. Now he's just using 247's composite rankings, but that hardly makes a difference.

3 weeks 3 days ago I wonder if the coaches have

I wonder if the coaches have decided on how many places to recruit for yet. Last year they were clearly recruiting for more spots than most here expected them to. We always seem to underestimate attrition. Two would be a remarkably low number of players to lose over the next ten months. 

3 weeks 4 days ago 50 years?

You don't need to go back nearly that far.

3 weeks 4 days ago No offense,

but I don't think you understand how that business works. ESPN, Scout, etc aren't going to stop making inside information available to their paying customers. Sitting on stories just means they get scooped by the competing services and lose business. They are not sharing secrets with you. Their sources aren't going to stop talking to them if the info spreads beyond WN or some other paid forum.  Granted, they don't like getting that info leaked, but they understand that it happens and that it's been going on from the beginning. They may restrict the accounts of people caught leaking "private" info, but there is really nothing more they would do.

3 weeks 4 days ago OP, why the quotation marks around realignment?

OP, why the quotation marks around realignment?

3 weeks 4 days ago I had always heard the Wings

I had always heard the Wings were in the west to give its opponents some extra marquee games. Most of the popular teams are in the east, Detroit in the west helped sell tickets.

3 weeks 6 days ago I'm trying to think of a reason

that you can't criticize a kid's behavior without immediately resorting to namecalling that does not reflect badly on you. I can't  Perhaps you should look in the mirror before continuing this argument. You wouldn't let the kid play for you. OK, maybe his coach isn't teaching him the same things you would.

4 weeks 1 day ago As far as I know, nobidy forced Battier to shave his head.

I would guess he's not as sensitive to jokes about his looks as you are. Comparing his apperance to Hawking's physical condition is the most over the top thing I've read here in some time and that's saying something.

4 weeks 2 days ago camp invites are a dime a dozen

I think the last couple of years every single one of our graduating scholarship seniors got them. I wouldn't be surprised to see Kovacs make a roster.

4 weeks 2 days ago Bring back the points system.

Isn't it supposed to happen this off-season?

4 weeks 4 days ago For the long time frame they can look at the academic fit.

For the long time frame they can look at the academic fit. If you're looking past 10-15 years then you have to make a lot of guesses about revenue models and competitiveness. Given the medical research being done today, even the long term future of college football is murky. If expansion proves to be very profitable over the next 10-15 years then the Big Ten should be in darn good shape.

4 weeks 4 days ago Another problem

with the basketball proposal is that it will very often lead to an imbalance in home/away games. Just look at this season when we faced all of our toughest opponents on the road first.

5 weeks 2 hours ago Danny O'Brien

was in the same situation when he transferred to Wisconsin last season. It's pretty impressive for a football player to graduate in three years.

5 weeks 1 day ago Your first point leaves me perplexed.

You're concerned about having to go small because of foul trouble when the alternative is to go small from the beginning? I think GRIII's offensive game is well suited to the 3. He's got a good 3-pt shot and those lobs can come off of back cuts.

5 weeks 1 day ago U of M would never let their players

schedule press conferences on consecutive days. I see your point.

5 weeks 1 day ago very likely, yes

very likely, yes

5 weeks 1 day ago A joint press conference is a

A joint press conference is a very good sign.

5 weeks 1 day ago It's a syndicated show from Grand Rapids.

WTKA picks it up, but they have nothing to do with the content.

5 weeks 2 days ago It's not the same thing, at all.

Football is at 86, yes, but they don't need to cut anyone. They can easily get to 85 by not inviting one player back for his fifth year. There is nothing unethical about that. Defend Crean all you want, but there is no need to drag our football coaches into this.

5 weeks 4 days ago Cornish miners brought them wherever they went,

Australia too. Finns in the U.P. learned to make them from the Cornish. I didn't notice anything distinctive about theirs. The English, on the other hand, made the worst ones I ever tasted..

5 weeks 4 days ago Pasties are from Cornwall, not the U.P.

Cornish miners brought them over and you will also find them in some other mining areas like N. Wisconsin and Montana.

5 weeks 5 days ago Conley is a poor comparison.

He committed to us when we were his only big time offer. If you want to worry, fine, but see if you can think of a decommitment who already had offers from all over before his commitment. 

6 weeks 1 day ago Beilein didn't recruit him.

Beilein didn't recruit him. The possible reasons have been discussed here occasionally.

6 weeks 1 day ago I'd want to ask him what he

I'd want to ask him what he thought about other coaches, both those he has worked with and those he faced in games and recruiting.

6 weeks 2 days ago two obvious reasons not to walk on

You point out that there is no guarantee he would be brought back for a fifth year under scholarship, but wouldn't you like to have that option? As a walk-on he would have to pay his own way. As a greyshirt he could defer his enrollment until his scholarship was available.

6 weeks 2 days ago Who does Penn State have?

I think just walk-ons and incoming freshmen.

6 weeks 3 days ago my thought

You don't seem to understand what second guessing someone means.

7 weeks 8 hours ago Dance for Mother Earth Pow Wow

They will be there all weekend.

7 weeks 9 hours ago There was another (big) reason.

Pernetti came out and said their president had seen the videos in November. The president then contradicted him and said he hadn't seen them until a few days ago. Blindsiding his boss by dragging him into this mess was the dumbest move Pernetti made. At least he was given the opportunity to fire Rice on his way out.

7 weeks 1 day ago Once these videos aired

the AD could easily see that his job was on the line, almost certainly this was made clear by the president, who would have the same concerns. I would argue the financial incentive was entirely personal.

7 weeks 2 days ago He might well go there, but

McCallum won't be playing when Zeigler is eligible.

7 weeks 2 days ago from ESPN, read into it what you will

Last week, Pittsburgh announced that Shell was taking some time away from football to "work through some challenges."

7 weeks 2 days ago It's not Hoke, it's UM

He took transfers at SDSU.

7 weeks 3 days ago You are right that there will

You are right that there will be plenty of mistakes. One can't point at a blown call as evidence of cheating. At the same time, the presence of many mistakes makes it much easier to cheat. Refs don't have to work together to cheat. That would be more effective, but also greatly increases the chances of getting caught. One ref can change the outcome of games often enough. Only the the truly bad cheaters make sure they win every single time. The league can rig games very simply. Tell the refs, for example, to crack down on the overly physical play of a team before a playoff series. Some refs will make bad calls on purpose because they are people. Maybe they have money on a game, maybe there is personal animosity, maybe they are trying to make up for previous bad calls, maybe they are following instructions.

7 weeks 3 days ago Your first reason is backwards.

If the calls were easy to make it would be harder to rig games. I'm not so sure about your comparison to other sports either. There are far more opportunities to squeeze or expand the strike zone in baseball and more close calls for holding or interference in football. As to your second point, the fans, announcers and players complain all the time, but leagues fine coaches that publicly criticize the officiating. NBA games have been rigged and probably still are. Refs will always make some bad calls, but there are also some made on purpose. What we don't know is how often it happens and we often have to guess as to why. 

7 weeks 3 days ago Strike while the iron is hot.

It's crazy to think bigger jobs would be out there for Enfield if FGCU took a step or two back next season. Would he even have been considered for a major job two weeks ago? Succeeding at USC will put him in line for better jobs.

7 weeks 4 days ago I don't think you quite thought this through.

You don't announce or necessarily decide on redshirts at the beginning of the season. Morris will play if he's needed. If he isn't, it makes sense to preserve a possible redshirt. At this point, nobody knows where Morris will be on the depth chart in 2014.

7 weeks 6 days ago Honestly?

I find the notion that it is cheating to be nothing short of ridiculous. If you want to start a discussion then why not suggest an alternative that you think is better?

8 weeks 7 hours ago That's averaging his extension with

the two years to go on his previous contract. I think his extension is right around five years for $150mil.

8 weeks 5 days ago One of my best friends wasn't

One of my best friends wasn't the greastest dribbler. The ball got too far in front of him in an intramural game. He ran faster and faster trying to control it, while leaning further and further forward. He hit the wall with his head down and knocked himself out cold.

9 weeks 2 days ago more than that

I'm pretty sure that the initial redshirt season has to be due to an injury. I don't think that was the case with Ryan.

9 weeks 4 days ago I hope you're wrong. I want

I hope you're wrong. I want him to stay for five.

10 weeks 1 day ago This holiday is not for everyone, especially some Irish.

A friend of mine who is a spartan fan wouldn't be caught dead wearing green on St. Patrick's day. I have no problem wearing green any time,except on a week we play them in football or basketball.

10 weeks 2 days ago Really? The fab five?

Really? The fab five?

10 weeks 2 days ago He also went on a rant

about cars and said he would never buy one built in the USA. Then he insulted autoworkers that called in. I thought he was going to get fired for that. I pretty much stop listening to his show after that.

10 weeks 2 days ago I'll second that.

He wanted the Tigers to dump V. Martinez one month into the 2011 season.

11 weeks 1 day ago Stephenson was not a defenseless player.

He was running with the ball, so that play wouldn't fall under the new rule.

11 weeks 1 day ago Laying big shots to the heads

Laying big shots to the heads of defenseless players should not be part of the game. I'd say the unlucky players have been the ones getting hit. I'm more concerned about our receivers getting taken out by cheap shots than our safeties getting penalized for them.  

11 weeks 1 day ago It doesn't have to be based on intent.

The other elements are hitting above the shoulders and a defenseless player. They just need conclusive evidence that one of those is absent to overturn an ejection.  

11 weeks 1 day ago You think the committee uses

You think the committee uses the polls for seeding?

11 weeks 2 days ago There are radio sports talk hosts

There are radio sports talk hosts who claim MSU is our biggest rival. 100% of MSU slappies do that and nobody else. Sayng that Wisconsin is a bigger rival than MSU is even sillier. MSU may not be our rival on the national stage, but UM is not only a national program. A fair proportion of our fan base live among the sparties and we are a state school. We may look down on them as a local rival, not to up to par with our national rivalries, but those games against MSU consistently mean more to our fanbase than MSU's standing as a program would indicate.

11 weeks 2 days ago We'll see.

Just because Bielema wasn't trying to poach commits from Wisconsin doesn't mean he wouldn't still be happy to have them.

11 weeks 2 days ago So that's why

we're always happy when the recruit's parents accompany them on trips here.

11 weeks 3 days ago I might have agreed

about the matchup a week ago. I feel a lot better seeing how we did against Nix and Payne with Morgan in the lineup.

11 weeks 4 days ago Yes, Morgan made a "dramatic" difference.

In game one Nix went from 6 of 9 with 3 assists and zero TOs. He was the most efficient player and along with Harris, MSU's most productive. I don't think anyone can't dispute that he had an outstanding offensive game.  

In game two he goes 2 for 9 with 6 TOs and 2 assists. That's worse than going 2 for 15 without the TOs. By any measure it's horribly inefficient and dramatically worse than the first game. While Harris was also more productive in the first game, neither the difference nor the effect on MSU's overall offense was nearly the same. I'm not sure what the claim about Harris being so much better than Nix is supposed to mean. Nix was good enough that we didn't have anyone who could stop him in the first game.

11 weeks 4 days ago damn triples.

damn triples

11 weeks 4 days ago damn triples

damn triples

11 weeks 5 days ago By now you've made more than a handful

of posts questioning/whining about someone downvoting your posts. Nobody enjoys reading those and some people are going to start downvoting everything else you post in this thread as a result. just my two cents

12 weeks 1 day ago Is this the Andrew Gaze rule?

Is this the Andrew Gaze rule? It's hard to know where to draw the line sometimes. Would it be different if he had played a larger role for their national team or played a full season for a club team?

12 weeks 1 day ago Your title leads with "Tide Clear Scholarship Room".

Your title leads with "Tide Clear Scholarship Room". That's strongly suggesting a purpose behind the dismissals that has absolutely nothing to do with doing the right thing. Claiming you aren't taking any credit away from Saban because you also give another reason for the dismissals is just silly.

12 weeks 2 days ago "Did I take credit away from him for kicking them off?"

Yes. Yes, you did.

12 weeks 2 days ago You're overplaying the talent,

while downplaying the suspensions and the turmoil. While Herron missed six games, Posey missed ten. They had other suspensions and injuries too. Sure, Miller is more talented than Maxwell, but talent isn't usually enough for a true freshman QB to excel right off the bat. Maxwell had three years practicing in their system. Most expected MSU's offense to be better than it was last season.

12 weeks 2 days ago Douchy?

The fact that he was only at Purdue for a very short time makes him easier to replace, not harder. Also, is there really a better time of year to leave?

How long did Purdue think they were going to keep OSU's former OC as a position coach? In all seriousness, if I am Purdue's head coach and one of my position coaches gets offered the OC job at a better program for 2x-3x the salary, I'm not asking him to stay. I'd tell him he'd be a fool not to take it. Hazell, Dantonio and Bollman all worked together at OSU. I'd be very surprising if this move caused any hard feelings among the coaching staffs.

12 weeks 2 days ago disagree about the rule

I think it's the only thing that keeps the blatant flopping from being effective. Does anyone remember the OSU player faking getting hit with an elbow against us? I think it was in 2011. The replay showed the elbow missed by about a foot. What I find ridiculous is that a player can attempt such a flop without fear of penalty.

12 weeks 4 days ago You shouldn't be too worried

about a photo taken on Saturday not including a recruit who visited on Sunday.

12 weeks 6 days ago They were the best school

They were the best school that recruited me. Although I grew up a UM fan, I can honestly say that was not a factor. I'm also sure that I would have stayed a Michigan fan regardless. 

13 weeks 3 hours ago Wojo didn't botch it.

Nor did Beilein. Here's the relevant quote from Wojo's article:

Back on the screen, there was a brief tale of the gazelle and the lion. Beilein read it aloud, that the gazelle must run faster than the fastest lion, or it will be killed. And the lion must run faster than the slowest gazelle, or it will starve.

Why someone would completely mangle the quote and then claim to be confused by it has me baffled. Did Wojo edit his article?

13 weeks 1 day ago and that we were not

and that we were not recruiting Stewart.

13 weeks 2 days ago The marketplace is completely different now.

The BTN is on the standard cable packages statewide in every state they have a team. That's how they make a lot of their money and it's driving them into new states. That's why Pitt was never going to get invited. Dollars to doughnuts the SEC network is going to aim for the same kind of deals. Adding FSU and Miami would boost ratings a bit, but it wouldn't add significantly to their subscriber base. Adding NCSt and VT would. I think the SEC would prefer UNC and UVA, just like the B1G, but VT and NCSt are the obvious second choices.   Aside from that, UF would be dead set against adding other Florida schools. USC doesn't want Clemson and UGA doesn't want GT. Those schools would almost certainly vote as a block against adding FSU and MIami.

13 weeks 3 days ago FSU and Miami are not the natural fits for the SEC.

No SEC member wants to add more schools from their home state and they are looking at expanding their footprint too. VT and NCSt are far more likely to end up in the SEC. They would give the SEC a presence in every southern state.

13 weeks 3 days ago Yes.

I use the "new" tab and threads never get bumped by comments.

13 weeks 3 days ago I don't like defending ESPN,

but I'm pretty sure that guy is not an ESPN employee. He hosts a local weekend radio show. The station he works for is an ESPN affiliate, which means they carry some of ESPN's programming. There are literally hundreds of those affiliates..

13 weeks 3 days ago Without a coach leaving,

we can't hire another coach. There is an NCAA limit and we keep a full staff.

13 weeks 3 days ago It's hard to tell what you are asking.

It sounds like you are wondering if Hoke would fire someone on his staff just to make room for someone with a higher profile who is likely to only stay for a season or two. That seems highly improbable given what we know about our coach. Imo, if Hoke decides to replace someone on his staff it will because he is unhappy with their performance, not because someone like Cristobal is available.

13 weeks 4 days ago LOL

LOL at the idea that Hoke has only been coaching for two years.

13 weeks 4 days ago I don't think so.

If he wants to wait, then he is running the risk of the coaches offering that spot to someone else. Although his signing day is further off, that doesn't mean the coaches are going to wait almost a year to decide whether to recruit somebody else for that spot. They are bringing 2015 kids in for visits and have sent out a handful of offers already.

13 weeks 4 days ago Jerk isn't the right word, blowhard maybe.

You're coming off as someone who thinks they know a lot, when it appears you know very little about the subject at hand. I'm not advocating trusting the coaches no matter what, but you seem to very sure in your own assessment of a potential DL recruit who you know practically nothing about. So much so, that you can use it to make broad statements about the future of the program.  I think we can all acknowledge the possibility you may be correct about this players' future. After all, the percentage of recruits who wash out is not insignificant, regardless of their recruiting profile. But by all means, come back in five years and remind us how much better you are at judging the potential of recruits than our staff. Expect some extra credit for the handicap of never seeing the players in person or working with them in a camp.

13 weeks 4 days ago Sure they could have.

  But with whom? They had most likely established relationships with other players in their class and the coaches, like we hear about our recruits doing. Then on short notice, they need to start over, see who has room and interest. They are forced into making a rushed decision, with a lot less information and perhaps fewer choices than they would have had before. Are you seriously equating that to offering him a greyshirt a year in advance?  

13 weeks 4 days ago What difference does it make?

You have got to be kidding. Read up on the kid Saban offered to find a job at Home Depot.

13 weeks 4 days ago You should explain

your insight into why we would be wasting a scholarship on this recruit. Those are pretty strong words, so I would hope you have something to back them up.

13 weeks 5 days ago Are you purposely trying to

Are you purposely trying to make a thread so stupid that people will regularly reference it when criticizing future threads? If so, you may have a winner.

13 weeks 5 days ago I know this is a little too impolite for the board,

but OP, you're clearly not very bright, at least not today.

14 weeks 1 day ago bad news

At least if she was committed, I'd know who the competition was.

14 weeks 1 day ago Supposedly our coaches

Supposedly our coaches started ignoring Barnes at some point after he committed. It's one of those things where we only hear the recruit's side of the story, but I don't recall any of our recruiting sites ever denying it.

14 weeks 1 day ago Jordan Barnes and Dewayne Peace?

not counting those influenced by a coaching change

14 weeks 1 day ago No disrespect intended,

but I don't think you know what you are talking about. Hoke and Mattison have both mentioned that that the 5-tech and 3-tech can be somewhat interchangeable in our defense. You are the first one I've seen suggest they look at the 5-tech and 7-tech that way. It's pretty obvious they have been recruiting different types of players for those positions.

14 weeks 1 day ago Didn't we just hear this

Didn't we just hear this about the 2014 QB offers?

14 weeks 1 day ago nonsense

Although I don't believe ESPN has anything to say about it, one would think they would love two signing days.

14 weeks 3 days ago a question for the OP

What did you mean by this?

Even without money problems, is it really fair to the other students?

14 weeks 3 days ago Perhaps

it was because your post was a bunch of hyperbolic nonsense that contributed nothing to the discussion?

14 weeks 4 days ago The five and four home game imbalance

is a phony issue. One division has every team get five one year and four the next. It works very neatly with 14 teams. It's not quite as neat with 16, but it should still work.

14 weeks 4 days ago I can't help but wonder

how this fits into Urban's recruiting tips for the other Big Ten coaches.

14 weeks 4 days ago Do you have a source for this idea?

Frankly, I can't see any reason for Freeh to be working with the NCAA.

14 weeks 6 days ago Points he may be missing:

The coaches were telling all of the OL recruits a year ago that they were taking five. If they had said they were taking six then, it's impossible to know if they would have gotten all of those early commits, Pocic included. It would be nice to know how much room you have in the class from the beginning. Then you could budget the spots perfectly. We would have tried to add a third LB, maybe snagging Reshke or S. Jones. But is that any more realistic than saying we shouldn't have wasted any time and effort recruiting Treadwell, Isaac or anyone else who turned us down? 

15 weeks 22 hours ago think you are missing the point

The criticism isn't directed at Meyer for poaching recruits. It's for telling the coaches they need to recruit better for the sake of the league - after poaching their recruits. Too bad Bielema left. I'd like to see his reaction.

15 weeks 22 hours ago Dan Hanner

Isn't the author the same guy who had us out of the top 40 in his preseason rankings? He is still claiming we should not have been in the top ten.

15 weeks 1 day ago Defense wins championships.

That's what the pundits were saying last week, using KU as an example.

15 weeks 2 days ago A free ticket

doesn't make that much difference in the cost of travelling to games. I remember hearing he was a scout for the Heat, so they might foot the cost for at least some of the travel involved.

15 weeks 2 days ago Treadwell lost interest before committing

Yes, but did he lose interest in Michigan before deciding to commit to Ole Miss?

15 weeks 2 days ago It was on ESPNU

Alex Collins is the recruit. I can't help but wonder if his mother is related to Landon Collins' mother. 

15 weeks 3 days ago I'm leaving out Kurt Busch

for an obvious reason.

15 weeks 3 days ago Quinton McCoy

is from Arizona I thought.

15 weeks 3 days ago Fisher forging Perry Watson's

Fisher forging Perry Watson's name on passes for Ed Martin unfortunately took our scandal to a higher level. It's not fair to call it a Fab Five scandal since only one of them was implicated. To my mind the bigger culprits were the players who came along later who had been warned to stay away from Ed Martin and especially Fisher and any other coaches in on it.

15 weeks 3 days ago You make excellent points.

I hope they do show up. Hell, I really hope we're in the finals so they can watch us from their courtside seats. As long as they're not asking for UM to give Webber a ticket I don't see the problem.

15 weeks 3 days ago I disagree about the timing.

First, coaches are going to leave when jobs are open. That part isn't up to them. It's nearly always going to be around the same time of year. Second, it seems far worse to stay just past NSD. I'd much rather see a school scrambling to replace or hold on to recruits than the alternative; recruits finding out the coach they committed to is leaving just after it's too late to go elsewhere.

15 weeks 3 days ago Is Nick Saban's mother on board?

Just wondering who else would make such a stupid defense of Alabama's unprecendented and unmatched use of the medical hardship rule without being even a tiny bit suspicious. If you want to use our players as examples, you might want to learn how to spell their names. Clark isn't that difficult. What was the point of that example - that Michigan's coaches were upfront with a recruit and his family early in the recruiting process? Just because you can't count 27 open roster spots does not mean they don't exist. I think that's exactly how many we have if one player is not invited back for his fifth season. That's not allowing for the blindingly obvious fact that the coaches know a lot more about their players' plans than we do. 

15 weeks 4 days ago "Colors and teams aside"??

You do realize your criticism was directly entirely towards the color?

15 weeks 4 days ago Indeed

You should "of" spelt better.

15 weeks 4 days ago I agree with this.

His enthusiasm for his job is obvious. He certainly could have gone back into coaching if he wanted. Also, he is immeasurably better at announcing than being an NBA GM.

15 weeks 5 days ago $830K is his pay for life of the contract.

You need to divide the year's salary by 12 to get the bonus.

15 weeks 6 days ago That's a lot of assumptions.

You're making some assumptions that may not be based in reality. He was disciplined by the school after their Legal Affairs department was called in. The discipline included a pay freeze. That leads one to ask why. Would that be SOP if she was some random student? According to the school's written policy, that does not appear to be the case. http://policies.utexas.edu/policies/consensual-relationships

16 weeks 1 day ago There are two unnamed players

There are two unnamed players in the front row. Sorry to complain, I enjoyed your post.

16 weeks 2 days ago I think what you're missing

is that adding Johns Hopkins would in no way preclude the Big Ten from adding any of the schools you mentioned.

16 weeks 2 days ago That was a vastly different situation.

That was a vastly different situation. VT had tried for many years to join the ACC and UVA was asked to help, rather than support taking other teams from the Big East and leaving VT stuck there. 

16 weeks 3 days ago Yes

I looked for a link that may have been hidden in the op. I should have known better. 

16 weeks 3 days ago I think you're right.

I meant to say that I agree the sport wil be dead (or dying) in thirty years. As the players continue to get bigger, stronger and faster, it's only going to get harder to make it safer.

16 weeks 3 days ago Sorry,

but now you're just being a jackass. Forget your locked topic and stay with this one.

16 weeks 3 days ago What would you do about

What would you do about blocking? There are a lot of collisions in the game aside from tackle attempts. Unfortunately, I have to agree with Pollard.

16 weeks 3 days ago Sam Webb

Sam Webb has more than once suggested that there could be as many as 29 in this class. Since 28 is the max scholarships we can offer, that strongly implies one of the commits could either be a walk-on or a greyshirt.

16 weeks 4 days ago Why not look at the non-conference

games that are already scheduled?

2014 - App ST, ND, Miami, OH, Utah

2015 - Utah, ND, OrSt, UNLV

2016 - ND, Colorado

It's pretty clear that Brandon is intent on toughening our non-conference schedules. While I might prefer ten conference games to eight plus ND and 3 directional cupcakes, that's not really the choice. I'm happy with the direction we've been going.

 

17 weeks 9 hours ago Kareem

Of the guys we were really recruiting, Glenn Robinson Jr and Tim Tebow would have been the most interesting to land. Kareem would have made the biggest impact.

17 weeks 1 day ago 91 on XM. Here's the place I

91 on XM. Here's the place I always look: http://www.umhoops.com/2013/01/24/game-19-purdue-at-michigan-preview/

17 weeks 1 day ago LOL

That account was in the South Bend Tribune. Who do you think their source was?

17 weeks 1 day ago not only that

He got fined for the same thing earlier this season. He knew what was going to happen.

17 weeks 3 days ago I'm not following your reasoning.

Are you saying that bundled TV is going to die, therefore cable networks will make less money, therefore they will pay less for some of their most popular shows? While not agreeing with your first premise, I would think an al a carte system would put a premium on networks keeping their most popular programming.

17 weeks 3 days ago thanks for this

some inspired nuggets

17 weeks 3 days ago LOL

LOL

17 weeks 4 days ago That kid in Nevada

didn't have any offers. But he told his friends and family and the local paper he did. He just kept the lie going until it fell apart. That sounds a lot like somebody who's been in the news lately. Williams is already committed to UGA and I'll give him credit for a good sense of humor.

17 weeks 4 days ago I know you were initially

I know you were initially answering someone else's assertion. I'm inclined to think his story is calculated and fishy. I'm interested to see what happens after his statements get checked. My guess is that he didn't try to visit because he never really felt that close to her, not because he was a callous boyfriend.

17 weeks 4 days ago The initial stories were

that she was the one calling off their planned meetings (for obvious reasons). Now I see that he was doing it too. He went to a friend's house close to where she was staying in Hawaii, but didn't have a car and couldn't get to her house. Then he lied to his dad about seeing her. He was supposed to visit her around the 4th of July but his parents asked him to go to Utah instead.

Every mention of Kelly in the interview makes him look bad.

 

17 weeks 4 days ago ESPN now has an edited transcript up.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8859544/highlights-manti-teo-interview-jeremy-schaap

Te'o says that he was planning to see her on his way home in May. He was expecting to meet her in San Diego before flying to Los Angeles. But since she was in a hospital in Los Angeles he didn't see her. Apparently that idea never crossed his mind?

17 weeks 5 days ago She was ailing from April 28 to September.

In response to a question about why he didn't visit her in the hospital, "It never really crossed my mind. I don't know. I was in school".

He had at least a three week break between semesters in May. He would not have had any team responsibilities during much of that time either, would he? Also, why would Brian Kelly think he had never met her in person? It's hard to know what conclusions to draw, but his story is confusing and doesn't fit together very well.

17 weeks 5 days ago Typical Albom

He's not an attack journalist. He makes his living writing feel good stories. Plus, as the op points out, he understands about taking liberties to make your story sound better. 

17 weeks 5 days ago Source?

Do you have sources for the best friend angle? I hadn't heard that one before.

17 weeks 5 days ago Getting noticed early

helps a great deal for the Heisman race when you play a position where stats aren't too important. Te'o got a lot of coverage during the broadcasts I watched. I am willing to bet it would have been less without the dead gf. That's the type of story announcers love.

18 weeks 8 hours ago Let's face it.

This was not a super sophisticated hoax designed to hold up to serious media scrutiny. The girlfriend was a Stanford student - easily disproven. She could have simply been a fan attending the game. There was no attempt to plant a false obituary notice anywhere. Given that, I'm not inclined to believe Te'o would have done the detailed planning needed to show he was the innocent victim of a hoax in case it unraveled. I wasn't asking what would constitute absolute proof that he was duped, only what would make us believe it.

Upon reflection, the phone records might not make the best evidence. Of course the absence of those long calls would be damning, but I'm not sure how much their presence would mean. Manti implied that his family was paying his AT&T bill. If the fake girlfriend was an invention to fool his family, he would have anticipating their seeing those calls on the bill.

Innocent until proven guilty is for the legal system, not for the court of public opinion. We lack subpoena power.

18 weeks 8 hours ago interesting theory

makes a lot of sense to me

18 weeks 9 hours ago Who saves receipts?

Retailers save the receipts. He didn't buy a bunch of flowers and mail them in a box. Whoever he had send the flowers will keep records. Plus, that is the type of purchase almost always made by credit card, so there will be more evidence. He doesn't need to remember her phone number either. AT&T could give him a copy of his bills with detailed information.

18 weeks 9 hours ago don't want three

I don't think any coach wants to allot three scholarships to kickers. If Gibbons or anyone else on the roster looked like a viable option for 2011 I doubt we would have offered Wile.

18 weeks 22 hours ago His agent

should be negotiating a book deal, to be announced after the NFL draft.

18 weeks 23 hours ago ESPN

ESPN may well have been sitting on that until his interview. It's obvious the interview was canceled because there are questions he's going to have a hard time answering.

18 weeks 1 day ago "Just because I imagined it

"Just because I imagined it doesn't make it any less true." - Homer Simpson

18 weeks 1 day ago Once she got sick, he could

Once she got sick, he could no longer break it off with her, so she had to die. It was convenient that she died the same day as his grandmother. Otherwise his family might have wanted to go to her funeral. 

Why did she have to get sick? That question seems to point towards trying for publicity, not a coverup, although it could have been both. 

18 weeks 1 day ago Manti's dad isn't claiming to have met her.

But I can't think of too many reasons he would think his son was while he was home in Hawaii.

18 weeks 1 day ago We're ripping on them

because we don't believe Swarbrick is telling the truth. We could be wrong, but he is asking us to swallow an implausible story bolstered by a super secret investigation. Frankly, he has little credibility with me after seeing him handle the Declan Sullivan tragedy.

18 weeks 1 day ago I might have even wanted to

I might have even wanted to meet her when I went to Stanford for the 2011 game.

18 weeks 1 day ago to garner sympathy

to garner sympathy when she is "dying"  or if he may never have one

18 weeks 1 day ago Anybody wonder

when Te'o learned that Deadspin was investigating this story?

18 weeks 1 day ago A question for BILG.

What couild he have done to come off as ruthless or scheming?  I have a hard time imagining anything we would have been able to see. On the other hand, we may be getting a true glimpse of his character now. If he is a "decent" guy who made a really bad decision, what is he doing now? He's playing the victim and blaming someone else. I have a very hard time finding shades of gray in his behavior if he was in on this.

18 weeks 2 days ago I wonder what kind of

I wonder what kind of investigation ND really did. We can be sure the media are going to go over everything Te'o said about her with a fine-toothed comb. There were plenty of stories with information that doesn't fit the hoax perpetrated on Te'o angle. Who were the sources for the details on how and when they met and her visits to Hawaii?

18 weeks 2 days ago not a good op imo

I have a tip to help your reasoning process. Don't say things like "There should be a rule"  and "Do you ever see a rule that will punish the coach and the university?" without considering who would make such rules. I get the idea that you haven't put much thought into that.

Btw, I negged you for your first two sentences. The first is patently ridiculous and the second is the kind of gratuitous whining that always annoys me..

18 weeks 2 days ago some new details from ESPN

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/college-football/story/_/id/8849887/usc-trojans-scuffle-post-bowl-defeat-sources-say

18 weeks 2 days ago Denver, not trolling you,

but wasn't that a particularly stupid question to ask? Of course we would worry more if Dantonio could recruit better. He's proven to be a good coach. How could it be worse for us that he can't land the players he wants?

18 weeks 3 days ago Raoul

I like all of the posters who give us detailed analysis. I know they're going to get a lot of votes, so I'm going to say Raoul. His posts are always informative and typically address topics not covered so well by others here. I also look forward to DGDestroys posts on recruiting.

18 weeks 3 days ago and freshmen

and freshmen

18 weeks 3 days ago exactly

exactly

18 weeks 3 days ago Here's a simple question.

Could Lance Armstrong win such a defamation suit without committing perjury? The difference between defending yourself in a criminal case where you are guilty and bringing lawsuits based on lies is night and day.

18 weeks 3 days ago He can't take an official

He can't take an official until fall for football.

18 weeks 3 days ago Agree

except considering how Smythe's name just popped up again, another new possibility or two wouldn't surprise me. Sam Webb has been hinting the class could get to 29. Maybe he knows something about those possible conditions.

18 weeks 3 days ago allow me to disagree

While it's unusual, we'll have to just disagree on whether it's absurd to play to play the same team on back to back weeks. I don't see the big difference between that and having a game or three between the rematch. I also don't see why the first game would be meaningless. If you are thinking of some scenario where both teams are guaranteed to win their divisions with a loss and there are no national championship implications, that sounds like an extreme longshot.

Aside from that, the idea that a game against OSU would ever be meaningless is what strikes me as absurd. It wasn't meaningless the last two years when neither team could win the division. It wasn't meaningless in 2009 when OSU had already wrapped up the Big Ten and we went 1-7.

Maybe when the rematch happens I won't like it so much. But Michigan playing in the championship game is something I'm looking forward to seeing. I don't believe my interest or enjoyment will be any less because OSU is the opponent.

 

18 weeks 4 days ago Believe it or not, I didn't

Believe it or not, I didn't research the population density of Lincoln, Nebraska. If you want to be picky you could make a case that several teams could fit in the other division, pretty much like any other way of dividing them. All of the rural schools are located in college towns. The urban schools either are not, or are closest to a bigger city (MD and MSU).

18 weeks 4 days ago I think there are some holes

I think there are some holes in your reasoning.

You state the winner of the first game is at a disadvantage in the rematch, citing examples where a big underdog wins. What if the favorite won the first game, as happens more often? Wouldn't they be an even bigger favorite in the rematch in your examples? Speaking for myself, the chance to get revenge after an upset loss to OSU outweighs having to face them again after we won in an upset. If we were a big underdog we're probably not going to the championship game even with a win.

I think you are greatly overestimating the negative effect a rematch will have on the value of The Game. It has survived us losing ten of the last eleven and not always being competitive. It has survived many games with no meaning for the Big Ten title. Rematches with a new kind of drama may well add quite a bit to the rivalry.

I could care less if fans on this board meltdown worrying about having to face OSU again a week after beating them. I care about what the players and coaches do. If they can't get ready to face OSU for the Big Ten title, how would they be ready to play Wisconsin or anyone else? 

18 weeks 4 days ago not sure where three is a limit

UGA is trying to get 17 EEs in, with 10 of them backdated to 2012.

Also, there is a very good reason to think USC might pull his scholarship altogether. It's the same one they used to pull his EE, they found someone that wanted more.

18 weeks 4 days ago Urban and Rural

NW, NEB, OSU, UW, RU, MD, MINN

IOWA, ILL, IND, PU, PSU, MSU, UM

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