in town for free camps
|3 hours 20 min ago||I like Graham Glasgow's prospects better.||
His versatility gives him a little boost if he has a good season.
|7 hours 13 min ago||Isn't that just for basketball?||
It would make up a very small percentage of the gear.
|7 hours 25 min ago||Desmond Howard was a RB in HS.||
He's hard to top, but a lot of players were very productive at new positions. Jon Janson and Adam Kraus (TE), Larry Stevens (S), Frank Clark (LB), Jay Riemersma (QB), Ian Gold (RB) are a few off the top of my head.
|11 hours 57 min ago||We would be higher than Texas because their deal||
is almost ten years old. FSU was the highest in large part because they signed their contract last year. Prices are going up. Texas will surely be #1 when their new deal is done.
|11 hours 58 min ago||The contract details are supposed to be released soon,||
July 13, iirc. I'm sure you're right about the equipment figures being inflated, but they do seem to be consistent across schools. I wouldn't expect anything unusual in those numbers. A modest increase and a jump in the revenue. I'm interested to see the split in guaranteed money and percentage of sales. Adidas guaranteed us more, but gave a smaller share than the biggest Nike contracts.
|13 hours 40 min ago||Is that Tallahassee's version of Dooley's?||
I don't think serving minors there will go unnoticed.
|1 day 5 hours ago||Smoked salmon can be at least arguably raw.||
I'll just quote Wikipedia.
|1 day 11 hours ago||Which brings up the obvious question,||
is Adidas making any money on this deal? Maybe they would be interested in getting bought out early.
|1 day 11 hours ago||Those factories and their workers are getting replaced||
as soon as using robots is cheaper. It won't be long.
|3 days 11 hours ago||We go through this every year.||
The projected class size is always higher than the number of graduating seniors. People freak out about it every damn year. It's a projected class size. There's guesswork involved and an entire season to be played before it's finalized. If you recruit for the mininum number of places you have, you're left scrambling to fill the class at the end. And have turned away players you would have gladly taken earlier.
The disparity in numbers is higher this year. That's the only difference. That's to be expected with a regime change and with a high number of candidates to not get a fifth year. I'll bet that when it's done, we're going to have one or two unused roster spots. Then people will freak out about how we always lose out on recruits that announce on signing day. That pursuing them is a waste of time and we should just take guys that decide early.
|3 days 14 hours ago||Where does 14 come from?||
It gets repeated all the time on this site. I don't know how it started.
We have 15 spots opening up by departing seniors.
Norfleet (He may well return. His scholarship has not been used.)
|4 days 2 hours ago||Yes, but how much does Narduzzi work with the DBs?||
Dantonio came up as a DB coach. Narduzzi coached LBs. i would guess Dantonio works more with the dbs at msu than Narduzzi will at Pitt.
|4 days 2 hours ago||Yes, I think 25 is more likely than 28.||
I expect we'll be leaving a couple places open for guys that decide at the end. If they push us past 25 it's going to be a very strong finish.
|4 days 9 hours ago||Since when has Michigan ever been the leader for X. Kelly?||
That seems like nothing more than wishful thinking that you are weirdly mixing with pessimism.. Not that long ago he was committed to KSU.
|4 days 11 hours ago||Not really true for Wheatley and Buffalo.||
I would say it wasn't for Jackson and Tolbert either. What went on in SF was not about a failed coaching staff.
|4 days 12 hours ago||If you hire a CFB head coach from a lesser program,||
they generally bring along most of their staff. That's especially true if they've been together for awhile and the previous coach was fired. Hoke did exactly what he should have been expected to do in putting together a staff. I never thought the problem was in who he hired, but in not demanding more from them. I don't think he was ever going to fire anybody and they all knew it. Good head coaches make their assistants better.
|5 days 8 hours ago||What's the point of holding a grudge?||
It's a decision that should be based on what he contributed to the team, nothing more.
|5 days 9 hours ago||We could theoretically take a lot more.||
There's the 25 class maximum, plus backdating 3 EEs and up to 25 greyshirts. Of course that won't happen, but a couple of greyshirts would not be a surprse. My guess is that we'll take a total of 25, backdating 3 of them, leaving a little wiggle room for a late decision or two. I'm assuming enough attrition between now and Feb.
|6 days 6 hours ago||I'm not sure he fell for anything, exactly.||
I'd bet he was the one who suggested meeting at the car wash both times. He was still listing things for sale because he was planning to pull more robberies, Allegedly of course. It wasn't the best thought out plan.
|6 days 8 hours ago||I'm not suggesting a new 5* target,||
but Bruce Brown and Kevin Huerter have much better offer lists than Cumberland.
It could also be that they like their chances of finding someone better during the July evaluation period. It's even possible that if they don't, an offer might get Cumberland anyway. Cumberland's offer sheet is unimpressive for a 4*. I wouldn't be surprised to see him flip if he gets one of the offers he wants.
It's fair to assume that Beilein didn't offer Cumberland on his visit because he didn't want him to commit. That's either because he's still looking for a better fit or a better player.
|6 days 9 hours ago||I hope you're right.||
I think offering Cumberland would have been a sign that they gave up on Battle. It's harder to read as much into not offering him. For a 4* Ohio prospect, he doesn't have much of an offer list; Cinci, Xavier, Purdue and FSU. It's quite possible they think they'll do better even if Battle is out of the picture.
|6 days 10 hours ago||Eh, you're overreacting too, imo.||
There's an awful lot of time left for recruiting this class, nearly a year.
Most of Beilein''s higher ranked commits have come later than this in the cycle and the low ranked flyers haven't been offered until the following April.
I'm confident that a lot more posters here would be questioning Beilein's recruiting if Cumberland had just announced for Michigan. Beilein's aiming higher and that might just entail a little risk.
|1 week 5 hours ago||Shouldn't this be our default position with every commit?||
Harding had done nothing to suggest he's looking around or wavering, at least nothing I've seen. Nobody is truly 100% to stay in the class, but there should be something beyond pure speculation to suggest someone is likely to leave. I would think that if Harbaugh didn't want him, he'd have left already.
|1 week 8 hours ago||Thanks, Colonel, but do you really think that's||
what Phil Fulmer meant? I hope not.
|1 week 8 hours ago||He should take it..||
He could make a couple of trades and find better homes for his former players. At the rate they're going, the Kings might fire him before UK has hired a replacement.
|1 week 12 hours ago||50% of koalas have chlamydia.||
You should have his carcass tested before throwing him in a pot.
|1 week 14 hours ago||Yes. Robin Benzing, the last German that signed,||
never got cleared by the NCAA and stayed home. Wagner had not yet passed the test for foreign students when he signed either. He also had pro options at home, similar to some of our hockey recruits. This was definitely good news for the worrywarts among us.
|1 week 1 day ago||If Hackett is sticking with his July 1-ish announcement||
timeframe, which he recently confirmed, the decision should have been made by now. They need a little time to work out any possible snags.
|1 week 1 day ago||mGrowOld||
You're quite well-spoken, so I feel compelled to point out the word you wanted was "rending". I prefer not to play the role of a grammar nazi, so I'll shut up now.
<And this being MGoBlog, there were cleverer people beating me to the punch.>
|1 week 1 day ago||Bad expansion could weaken the Big XII.||
Like adding Houston and SMU. I'm not expecting it to happen, though. I think they're in good shape if they stand pat.
I think there are two decent candidates among the schools they could plausibly get; Cincinnati and BYU. Cincinnati is a bit of a gamble, but they'll recruit better in a major conference. They would give them a bit of a bridge towards WVU and probably bring in more viewers other mid-majors. BYU is a good fit for football, but brings scheduling problems, even if they are a football only member.
|1 week 1 day ago||If you respected Hoke, you wouldn't be calling him||
a bumbling moron. That shows a complete lack of class on your part. I respect him and have never seen a need for name calling, no matter how disappointing his results. He's a good coach who was in over his head. We would have been lucky to have him in a lesser capacity.
|1 week 1 day ago||Whatever the athletes prefer is fine by me.||
If it also helps in recruiting, great.
I've got one Adidas cap. All the other Michigan shirts and caps I own are neither Adidas or Nike although many date back to when we were with Nike. They're all licensed to other companies like Champion, which I believe make up the great majority of Michigan apparel on the market. My favorite is still a Steve & Barry's hoodie. I don't begrudge anyone for having their preference, but I'm not buying jerseys and I doubt I'd notice any difference.
|1 week 1 day ago||David Boren was likely better known than the governor||
before becoming OU's president. He was a governor and US senator there for 20 years. He also knows how to keep his name in the media.
|1 week 1 day ago||Rutgers got the BTN added to cable packages in NJ.||
Anything in NYC would be a bonus.
|1 week 2 days ago||The ACC looked shaky for a little while.||
Who knows what might have happened if we had taken Georgia Tech or UVA instead of Rutgers. Now they've got a good tv contract and a very high exit fee. They also expanded to protect themselves. They can survive losing a couple more schools, if need be.
|1 week 2 days ago||I don't believe there is any push towards||
mega-conferences anymore. It was driven by the possible collapse of the Big XII, or less likely, the ACC. That's passed and what's the point of including mid-majors? It's a great deal for them, because they add far less value than the revenue they'll siphon off. It's possible the Big XII will go to 12, but I'd expect that to be the last expansion for some time. I won't be at all surprised if they stand pat at ten.
|1 week 2 days ago||If we go to 20, I don't give a damn who we add.||
The only sensible reason would be to spiit the conference into new and old divisions for football and basketball. Scheduling would be real simple; single and double round-robins respectively, with no crossover games until the post-season.
I can see no good points to any other form of expansion in the Big Ten. It no longer looks like one of the power 5 conferences will implode, so the idea of 4, 16 team superconferences is off the table.
|1 week 2 days ago||Expanding because of last year's playoffs||
would be stupidly reactionary. They could just as easily had a team knocked out in the conference championship. They should require their schools actually play someone in the non-conference schedules, as the SEC has done.
Baylor played SMU, Buffalo and Northwestern State in their three non-con games last season. It'll be SMU, Rice and Lamar this season. That's why they didn't deserve to get in.
|1 week 2 days ago||"extremely elusive"?||
You and I weren't watching the same #33 during the spring game. I'd like to see him contribute this fall too, but I wouldn't put elusiveness on a list of his best attributes.
|1 week 2 days ago||The same kind that trolls them at 3PM,||
or any other time of day.
|1 week 2 days ago||Washington said it right after a recruiting visit.||
|1 week 2 days ago||There's a lot of apparel officially licensed to other.||
|1 week 2 days ago||Was that the one Adolphus Washington recited?||
If you just show up to class, it's impossible to fail.
|1 week 2 days ago||If I was a Bama fan, I'd find these hilarious.||
|1 week 3 days ago||It's the smallest class of scholarship players I can remember.||
14 of them plus 10 walk-ons and a few transfers.
|1 week 3 days ago||I like your work and appreciate the effort,||
but you've been fretting way too much about the recruiting by the assistants. Not just today. None of us know exactly how their responsibilities are divided.
|1 week 3 days ago||Upshur just said he is announcing on August 8.||
These timelines all fit nicely when we don't have many spots left. Let's hope it's no coincidence that these guys are all announcing relatively soon.
|1 week 3 days ago||I don't know about that.||
That kind of expansion hurts the existing teams by watering down their schedules. I'd expect Toronto and Montreal fans to welcome a Grand Rapids team the same way we did Rutgers.
|1 week 3 days ago||He called me once when he was in the area.||
i wasn't home. Probably just as well.
|1 week 3 days ago||Nah, I don't think so.||
There's no way we're going to get all the LBs on that list and hold onto the ones already committed. There's already at least one posible greyshirt in the class too.
|1 week 3 days ago||Looks like the staff has moved on.||
Hawkins is deciding soon and Mitchell is looking more likely as of late. Fitzpatrick still isn't solid to Louisville. He just got an offer from Minny and scheduled a visit there. Maybe we'll be an option for him down the road depending on what the NJ recruits do.
|1 week 3 days ago||This doesn't help sign a bigger class in 2016.||
We're already allowed to backdate the maximum of three early entries. That's based on how many recruits were in the class of 2015, not whether you're under the 85 limit for the season.
You and some of others here, might feel less uncomfortable if you weren't making up things to worry about.
|1 week 4 days ago||Shane Morris went back into that Minnesota game||
because he wanted to play too.
Let's not assume that it's deeper than Pipkins is endangering his health if he continues to play, whether he can perform on the field or not.
Let's not compare ourselves to Saban and OSU. Saban has a track record that precludes him from getting the benefit of the doubt. We don't have to be fair to Meyer and OSU. They're our rivals. That's not our role. We shouldn't forget OSU has a history of overlooking shady practices. I won't begrudge any OSU fans that want to take potshots at Harbaugh on their sites. I would hope Michigan fans wouldn't be so quick to jump on their side here without even putting any thought into it.
|1 week 4 days ago||That's just it, though.||
They were "good" once. That's their peak. Illinois' good years don't compare all that favorably to any other Big Ten team's except Indiana.
|1 week 4 days ago||You probably overlooked the second concussion||
sustained during the spring.
|1 week 4 days ago||That would be the win at all costs approach||
I would not endorse.
Pipkins may well recover enough from ACL to help someone on the field. If that was the only medical issue, then Harbaugh should give him that opportunity. It's not, though. He can play with arthritis in his knees, but it's not going away. It's going to affect his quality of life over time and football will make it worse.
The concussions are worrisome too. Again, he can come back, but it's an issue football is starting to take more seriously. After the Morris debacle last year, I would expect Michigan to be especially careful.
I'm much happier taking a hit in the media now, rather than reading a sad story down the road.
|1 week 4 days ago||sorry, double post||
|1 week 4 days ago||No, no, and no.||
First of all, we have 15 seniors if you count Norfleet, and we have his spot available if you don't. I don't know why Ace keeps saying 14, but if you look at the depth chart you'll see that's wrong.
Secondly, no one from the 2016 class has signed. You're right about expecting attrition, but oversigning is the wrong term and description to use for the current situation.Wait until after the LOIs are in. It's not an insignificant distinction.
Thirdly, it's irrelevant to Pipkin's situation. Not sure if you were implying otherwise.
|1 week 4 days ago||No, you're wrong about #4.||
We are definitely not oversigned for 2015, unless there are some secret signings that no sources have ever even hinted at. If you are looking at the 2016 class, you may be forgetting that Pipkins would be gone by then if he did play this season.
|1 week 4 days ago||Illinois is not in a great location.||
It's more or less in the middle of nowhere. Most of the talent in the state is much closer to Northwestern and even ND is closer. They lack the tradition to overcome that. It would be interesting to see the results if they hired a top coach, but I doubt that's ever going to happen.
|1 week 4 days ago||I think we need to take a step back.||
Obviously Pipkins is unhappy. We should be prepared for some bad publicity, but just what did Harbaugh do that was wrong?
1) Does Pipkins have serious medical issues?
2) Would he play this season if he were healthy?
3) Was he told to consult with his own doctor?
4) Are we oversigned and need his scholarship?
5) Are we even going to use his vacated scholarship?
6) Is this a case a manufacturing a reason to get rid of a non-contributor?
My answers: 1) obviously yes, 2) yes, 3) yes, 4) no, 5) very unlikely, 6) no.
You're welcome to draw your own conclusions. I'm not likely to agree with everything Harbaugh does as our coach, but this does not seem like anything the least bit shady. It sounds like a kid is understandably upset to see his dream end, but he would be better off if he didn't continue playing. It's a shame for him, not a reason to point fingers.
|1 week 4 days ago||That list also includes giving an unused scholarship||
to a walkon kicker, so we're really under 85 counting Pipkins.
|1 week 5 days ago||He was comparing Booker to Korver,||
|1 week 5 days ago||Don't rule out a greyshirt or two.||
|1 week 5 days ago||Is Caleb Kelly being recruited as a Buck?||
I thought he would project to a role more like Ross plays. Not sure if that's a Will or a SAM in Durkin's defense.
|1 week 5 days ago||I remember all the handwringing from some posters here||
over the Partridge hire. The narrative was that NJ's HS coaches all hated him and wouldn't let their players come to Michigan. Other than Paramus, of course. I can't help but wonder if Rutgers is rethinking letting Partridge walk after getting a little heat.
|1 week 5 days ago||Shades of 1997.||
That team was notably lacking great speed on offense, outside of a freshman RB. Woodson was too good not to use some on offense, but he also gave the team something they were missing.
|1 week 5 days ago||True, but a lot of NBA players have negative value in a trade.||
|1 week 5 days ago||<national player of the year>||
I'll co-sign on the rest.
|1 week 5 days ago||No kidding. I only have a vague idea of what the uniform||
|1 week 6 days ago||You're right. He'd likely be better than a true frosh in 2016.||
Maybe lower expectations going forward though. They wouldn't have had him visit if they didn't think he could help. Probably the most important part of the visit was seeing if he would be a good fit.
|1 week 6 days ago||I don't find it odd at all.||
There's a lot of reasons they might prefer other options at DE. I'd be leery of taking someone transferring after his freshman season because he didn't like the depth chart at ND. Is he going to bolt if he doesn't like the depth chart here in 2016? Is he looking for promises of playing time? The staff got a chance to meet him in person and get some questions answered.
With equal players, I think they'd rather have one with 4 years of eligibility over a transfer using up 4 years to play 3. A guy who isn't cracking the depth chart at ND probably isn't the equal of some of the recruits on our board. One of them may just be committing very soon.
|1 week 6 days ago||I'd be very surprised if he's choosing today.||
He's announcing today. The coaches of his finalists probably already know whether he's coming or not.
|1 week 6 days ago||I agree. If it were me. I'd also retire unless the penalties .||
were completley vacated. He doesn't need the money and retirement's going to happen someday soon anyway. Accepting any punishment tarnishes his legacy and image beyond what the NFL has already done. Put the NFL and Goodell on the defensive. This is assuming he has legal advice that supports his position, but their position looks untenable.
|2 weeks 3 hours ago||Wasn't his refusal to turn over text records||
part of the NFL complaint? He is being penalized at least in part, for failing to cooperate. If he turns them over as part of his appeal and there's nothing incriminating, he'll make a persuasive appeal.
|2 weeks 4 hours ago||The tweet referenced an assistant coach at King.||
He's the same one who's been a reasonable source for Norfleet news. It's probably about him. <edit, apparently not> The head coach, Dale Harvel, is the one who seems to have it in for Michigan.
|2 weeks 5 hours ago||I think we need to be careful making judgments about||
people's ethics when we're lacking a lot of relevant information, including anything from their side.
I get the feeling we judge other coaches by comparing their recruiting practices to Hoke's. He stuck by his commits, but he also didn't allow them to take other visits. It was a two way street. We know what he told recruits when he accepted their offers. It's very fair, but it's not the only ethical approach to recruiting.
Harbaugh lets commits take other visits. Obviously he's telling them something different than Hoke when they accept their offers. We don't know exactly what is said, but It's fair to think it's still a two way street and his commitment to them may not be the same as Hoke's.
Is hoping a recruit will decommit the ethical equivalent of pulling his offer? is it worse? Is it even wrong? There are lot of reasons for the interest to cool, some have nothing to due with needing his place for a higher ranked recruit. Ceasing contact doesn't seem like the best way to go about it, but there's no good way of letting a kid know you'd rather they went elsewhere. At least this way they won't be misquoted in the press with no chance to defend themselves.
It's easy to applaud coaches when they go out of their way to honor offers to injured recruits. It doesn't follow, however, that any other course of action is unethical. I'd be happy if all coaches followed Beilein's example. Few do though. I don't like what Harbaugh reportedly did there. I guess I'm not going to like everything he does.
|2 weeks 7 hours ago||He might be in the class of 2017.||
Those are the highlights of an 8th (or even 7th) grader? It's very strange if that's all that's out there.
|2 weeks 7 hours ago||He was at the Exposure U camp.||
Allen Trieu had him on his list of the top 15 performers.
|2 weeks 7 hours ago||These commitments don't just keep Ace busy.||
Now all the recruiting sites have to write up profiles for him too. Excepting ESPN. They may get around to it eventually, but they don't seem to worry about keeping up.
|2 weeks 7 hours ago||On greyshirting||
There's a night and day difference between letting a kid know he has an offer for a greyshirt (or that it's a real possibillity when you accept his offer), and changing the conditions of his offer after he has committed, especially late in the process. There's nothing inherently wrong with greyshirting and the practice shouldn't be equated with what Les Miles has done at LSU.
Recruiting information mostly emanates from the recruits side. Details about conditions of offers are often missing from recruiting sites. Why would a recruit interested in getting more offers want some of those details made public? Sam Webb hinted even before his announcement that one of our commits doesn't have an unconditional offer. There have been reports that Austin Davis will take a prep year if Beilein doesn't have room for him in 2016. It's easy to believe Davis will be okay with that, because we trust Beilein to be honest with recruits. If the same thing happened at another school, we might well assume otherwise.
There are going to be decommitments and possibly greyshirts. Let's not jump to conclusions about what recruits were told when they committed and reflexively take their side. I'd prefer to start off trusting in Harbaugh, until I'm convinced that I shouldn't.
|2 weeks 15 hours ago||If you knew at the time he was betting on games,||
you might have questioned how he played every time he got thrown out trying to take an extra base, etc.
|2 weeks 16 hours ago||The Hall of Fame is also a museum of the game.||
The plaques that commemorate the inductees are a relatively small part of it.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Pete Rose could never have directly placed a bet||
against his own team. The bookie would immediately know that he was throwing the game and would place big bets of his own. Word would have quickly spread. It's an impossible scenario. If Rose bet against his own team, he used a third party to place them.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||And for almost two decades after.||
|2 weeks 1 day ago||That makes sense, thanks.||
The story gives the impression it was taken away to prevent him from calling the police.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||We were recruiting Snoop's kid, not his.||
Some details are obviously missing from the story. If this report is correct, Puff Daddy probably wasn't the first one to break the law.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Thanks for the info. He was also the first 2016||
recruit to get an offer from Hoke.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||You can't always get full value out of your draft position.||
If you're not particularly enamored of the players projected to go in that slot, what are your options? You can take the player you prefer, who probably would have been available later, or you can swing a trade. Not everyone near you in the draft is going to be a suitable partner for a trade. I don't know if this particular trade makes any sense for NY, but I can see the value in getting something for moving down. At the very least, you'll save over $1M a year on the rookie contract. Maybe having this proposal floating around motivates another GM to make a better offer.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Is Phil Jackson a good GM?||
Or even competent? Coaching ability doesn't necessarily translate to his new job,
|2 weeks 1 day ago||There were some very obvious problems||
with what Rose did.
First of all, he knew he was breaking MLB's biggest rule. He absolutely knew that if he got caught there would be major consequences. That left him vulnerable to blackmail. Vulnerable to the wrong kind of people. People who would be interested in having him fix games and know how to apply pressure.
There was also the issue of being a problem gambler and falling into debt with dangerous people. That might lead him to do something he might not do otherwise.
Finally, this was all against the law, not just against baseball's rules. You or I may not care much about that particular law, but that doesn't mean others have to feel the same way. It also adds to the potential problems above.
He's lied every step of the way. That's part of the problem. I would never assume we know everything. His funneling bets against his team through a third party would not surprise me.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||You clearly don't pay attention to him.||
As Eric said, Sam said no such thing today and he was somewhat cautious when Battle committed.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Battle had an offer too.||
I don't think there's any reason to think they would have turned down either one that was willing to commit first. Beilein held off on offering anyone else, stopped recruiting Towns. It's was pretty clear to everyone involved that he was holding one spot for Langford or Battle and Battle was considered a longshot to take it.
Not saying that Langford was 100% to come if Battle didn't commit. But there was specualtion that he was deciding soon. By most accounts, we were his favorite and by the way, he did announce soon after.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Isn't ND always overrated?||
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Sam Webb has been speculating that Battle committed||
when he did because he thought Langford was about to take that spot. It's all part of the recruiting game, but I can see why fans are upset with him. It's worse than just a typical decommitment.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Depends on what MSU was recruiting Langford as.||
A lot of coaches have been recruiting shooting and combo guards and telling them they'll play the point. That appeals to some players who think that would make them better NBA prospects.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Agreed, I probably just skip right past a giant||
twitter dump post.Plus a lot of posts start from a tweet, but most of information will come from other sources. Sometimes it's the other way around.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Exactly right.||
Nothing has changed at the Freep since their practice gate story other than Rosenberg taking a bigger job. It's hard to forgive them for their hatchet job when they're so proud of it.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||It says an MSU assistant called the recruit while he was||
headed to the camp and asked him to call Dantonio.
Funny how these things work. Dantonio asks an assistant to call the kid with a request that the kid call him. Is there some reason for Dantonio not to just call him directly with the offer? Building up the suspense? Hoping he makes a call during the camp like he did? Then Meyer leaves camp early to see a basketball game. If he had stuck around he might have given out offers? I'm skeptical about that, although it brought back memories of John L Smith skipping MSU's camp to go mountain climbing.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Nothing Harbaugh hates more than a cocky QB.||
I don't see anything he said to take issue with. He didn't compare himself to Rudock or say anything negative about his abiities. He said something very similar to what players say publicly all the time.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||No matter how it works out, Rudock made a good choice.||
If he wants to play in the NFL, he's going to get the best coaching he could ask for. Going somewhere else and starting isn't likely to get him to the NFL if he's not good enough to win the job here. He's a serious student, who wants to attend medical school. The year spent here is more valuable for that career than most places he could have gone.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||They don't for me.||
I guess there are different options for the layout, but I only see threads in the order they were created.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Ace, why do you insist on saying there are 14 openings?||
There are 15 players slated to use up their eligibility including Norfleet. Norfleet may or may not return, but that scholarship would be available either way.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||You can get an Ypsi address and be in the||
Ann Arbor school district in Pittsfield township, perhaps other townships. There's a good price discount just for having the Ypsi address.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I don't think anyone said that being #24 is impressive.||
A relevant question; would we rather be #24 overall and 8th by average stars or #8 overall and 24th by average?
|2 weeks 4 days ago||To me, it sounds like he committed to UGA||
just to placate someone. It's easy to forget how much pressure some of these recruits feel.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Saban isn't going to come out and say||
why he's really opposed to the camps. Take any reason he gives with a grain of salt.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Don't think anyone with any sense would argue||
Meyer and Saban are lazy when it comes to their jobs. The reason for them to be against camps is they're very, very happy with the status quo.
Your analysis of Ferentz is spot on.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Price is a tackle and Bredeson said he was||
recruited to play guard.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Interesting, the timing fits if he wants to join||
our class. Probably just a coincidence, but Sam Webb had mentioned some time ago a real possibility of his switching to us. Perhaps it was just because his commitment to UGA was shaky. Either way, our OL class is filling up fast.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||An Auburn lean, I would suppose.||
With a brother playing for Auburn, I wouldn't think Alabama is likely. If he comes all the way here for an unofficial, not as part of a tour of schools, that's showing some serious interest.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Throw in a little spelling and grammar.||
Make it a mini MGoSAT.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Hello again.||
I think you're omitting the 2015 class of 14 players. Knocks us down to 83.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Have you looked at our recent classes?||
They've mostly been much smaller than that. Part of the reason those classes are in the top ten is that they're bigger than most.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||You think Jim Harbaugh's decision making process||
is driven by fear of failure? Seems unlikely to me.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Do they enforce it?||
Their stadium was mostly red when Nebraska played there.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Texas used to be the early leader in recruiting||
almost every year. Mack Brown would lock down a lot of top local players. I know it's early and there's a lot of disparity in class size, but this shows either a change in recruiting strategy or prowess.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||As a practical matter, it can't replace a road game.||
Who does Texas schedule home and homes with? Schools that aren't going to give up a home game to play in Mexico is my answer.
A neutral site game is possible, but unless it's a big time opponent, you're still basically replacing a home game. I wonder what big time opponents are willing to help Texas in their Mexican marketing attempt.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||IIRC, Presley enrolled in the Architecture program.||
It's very demanding and might have just been more than he could handle with football.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Andrew David is class of 2015, not 2014.||
It's kind of a funny exercise to evaluate the bottom 20 by their contributions here. One is an incoming freshman, another is a RS freshman, 3 were never admitted. Vinopal had a productive career after transferring.
Of the rest, only one was a star, but a majority started here. Obviously they weren't the equal of the top rated recruits, but I wonder how they compared to the players around our average.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Baraka was in the 2001 class, predating this list.||
Of course, there were ratings back then. I think he was a consensus 5*.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||It's surprisingly hard to recruit classes||
composed of guys wanted by everyone in the country.
We're going to have a mix, especially in this large class with a staff starting from behind. I know TMG and a few others prefer to bitch, but we should consider ourselves fortunate that we have coaches qualified to find players everyone else should have wanted. They don't have to hit on every one to build a great class.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||While I completely agree with your first line,||
I'll take issue with the second.
If we're talking about an under the radar kid, a lot of good can from taking an offer as you describe. He'll greatly raise his recruiting profile and likely garner more offers as a result. He might well end up sticking with the school, a possibility that's much less likely if he doesn't take it. There's not much potential for embarrassment that I can see. He can decommit to stay closer to home, etc.
If we're talking about a kid with offers to somewhat comparable schools, that's a bit different. They may be risking more, but there's nothing to keep them from still looking around. They might find an offer they like better or can use as leverage. As long as the staff is upfront when they accept the commitment, the recruit can make an informed choice.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||It's not 14.||
There are 15 players using up their eligibility this season, barring injury.
It's also a guarantee that 5th year players don't have to be invited back.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Demar Dorsey is always a poor example to use.||
His was an exceptional case. He wasn't accepted here, or anywhere else, after it was discovered that his online HS was fraudulent.
There are some borderline students who may not know if they'll get accepted by LOI day. Michigan usually doesn't pursue those players.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Only because you were using all caps for it,||
"alot" is not a word. I also have to ask, why shouldn't we trust Harbaugh and his staff? You either do or you don't.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Guarantees to recruits from Bobby Petrino||
mean very little, unfortunately for Reese, if that's what happens.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||How many LBs are we set to add soon?||
Jones is visiting tomorrow. Metellus' teammates? Fingers crossed for Bush. Gil might be best suited to play LB.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Cincinnati just offered Michael Onwenu||
after he attended a camp there. I don't think anyone is worried about him. Kids go to camps.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Not so sure that Fitzpatrick is still a target.||
He may have waited too long.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||He visited there last week, Miss St. too.||
You can't take paid official visits until your senior year starts.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I get the feeling that high schoolers do a lot of the tweeting.||
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Not quite. There are 15 slots available in the class.||
It's only 14 if you assume Kenny Allen gets a scholarship. Attrition is obviously coming either way.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Don't forget Erik Swenson.||
The #19 OT is not chopped liver.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Choosing Michigan was a great choice for both of the||
Bredeson brothers. Thank you Barry Alvarez and Wisconsin for being too cheap to field a baseball team.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Sorry, but you are.||
68 is the number of LOIs you could have over four years if you want to avoid problems with Title IX. That was simple to calculate. How do you think that would work out?
You seem to think most transfers happen because the coaches push out players that want to stay. I'd guess many more are initiated by the players. How many of the players transferring in here were forced out?
Do walkons get to earn scholarships? There will be plenty available. If yes, then you've just added an easy way to game the system. If no, you're punishing players and guaranteeing that there will ultimately be many fewer players on scholarship than there are now.
Go back and look at what your proposal would have done at Michigan over the last few seasons. Players buried on the depth chart wouldn't have been able to transfer to FBS schools. Players that no longer fit schemes because of coaching changes would have been stuck.
You're punishing the players in the name of protecting a few. You're also overlooking that most attrition is completely legitimate. Cracking down on a few unscrupulous coaches doesn't just affect them. it affects a lot of innocent parties. Generally speaking, any proposal that makes everyone pay because it's too hard to punish cheaters is fatally flawed.
|3 weeks 4 hours ago||I knew Dartmouth had to be there,||
but Kansas State is interesting.
|3 weeks 4 hours ago||Your proposal has some merit, but you are just glossing||
over its drawbacks.
Title IX. You can't pretend it doesn't apply and you can't calculate some number below the maximum number of scholarships to use. Every coach in the country will try to get as many players as he can. Of course, you can't make a hard cap below that max, because then you've reintroduced the current problem. If you go with 90 LOIs over four years, pretty much every school in the country is going to have to add multiple women's sports.
If you go with 80 LOIs, it's still going to mean one or two extra women's sports. While your maximum is 100, what is the lower quarter of your distribution going to look like? There are a lot of kinds of legitimate attrition and good players still mostly won't want to redshirt.
As Michigan fans it's easy to forget about JC players. After all, we don't take them. But don't they deserve a path to playing major college football? If they count for four years, their chances will be greatly limited. The same is true for transfers. Who's going to accept a transfer for a year or two when they count against your roster for four years? This isn't helping players, who may well have very good reasons to transfer.
There are possibilities that don't have such broad effects. Medical hardships can be regulated by requiring schools to get independent second opinions from approved doctors. Oversigning can be limited by caps like the Big ten has in place. No solution is going to be perfect, but leveling the playing field shouldn't be done at the expense of the players and shouldn't have to cost too much.
|3 weeks 5 hours ago||Think you're overstating things by a lot.||
Harbaugh's wearing a Nike shirt in a camp is not going to turn into a breach of contract court case. It's more the type of thing that prompts Adidas to send a letter reminding the AD of that clause. If Harbaugh insists on continuing to wear Nike gear at camps, then it could become an issue. That seems highly unlikely.
|3 weeks 7 hours ago||There's going to be a big hole in any simple solution||
to solve oversigning. Yours is in going from 85 to possibly more than110 scholarships. That's a significant cost, especially when you factor in Title IX mandating they're have to be matched in women's sports.
There are also questions about how JC transfers and other transfers would be handled. On its face, your system would not treat those players fairly.
|3 weeks 7 hours ago||"Exactly this"?||
No it's it's not the same thing at all. We've signed no one and won't for more than 7 months. OSU's oversigned with players that are actually signed and some have to go fast, whether legitimately or not.
It'll be exactly the same if a year from now we're over the limit. For now, we have 15 openings, (I know Ace says 14) and 14 commits. The coaches surely know about more attrition that's coming. They can also clear room by not bringing some players back for a 5th year, like everyone else, including our former coaches, does. This is oversigning by no one's definition, ever.
|3 weeks 7 hours ago||Yeah, I expect Harbaugh said he would honor the||
offer. DeWeaver isn't going to come out and say Harbaugh didn't want him, but he de-committed shortly after their meeting. i imagine he knew Harbaugh wasn't as enthusiastic about him as Hoke and co.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||May you be given a permanent 502 Bad Gateway Error.||
Bolivia is too nice for you.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||He and his staff are working with them in a camp.||
Just being nearby doesn't give you that perspective.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||That's almost certainly wrong.||
I doubt any coach is taking silent commits that are going to wait for many months to make it public. They're smart enough to know when a recruit is just stringing them along.
Some recruits have trips planned, others have coaches or someone else they want to inform in person, others have a specific date when they want to announce. Some are committed somewhere else and have a decommitmnet to handle first. Sometimes the coaches even encourage commits to make sure first.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||I think he just wants us to switch,||
so there's a lot of new gear to buy. Sales on the old stuff too.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Jersey, you here long enough to see all||
the praise heaped on Hoke when he reversed RR's policy and named captains before the season.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Bolden planted the stake in E. L.||
That would get him my vote. Kind of symbolizes the change in attitude at the top. Morgan would be no surprise either. On offense, maybe a QB if the voting takes place after it's clear who's starting. Otherwise, it could be a bit awkward. I'll guess Chesson, with Kerridge if it has to be a senior.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Tennessee is openly using the cash they give as a recruiting||
pitch. It's not against the rules as it has to due with the new cost of attendance rules. Tennessee gives out about the most in the country. PSU is at the top in the Big Ten. Both are trying to use that to their advantage.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||He'd better skip his last year of HS then.||
A lot of WR recruits look at who's coming in at QB. Those QB commits often do a lot of recruiting at camps. Let's hope Peters is doing a good job of it.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||If Murray is reclassifying, his decision is coming very soon.||
Winston is expected to take more time.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Couldn't you have said the exact same thing a year ago?||
You never know how things will play out, but competition is good. So is depth.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Would he be an upgrade over bringing Max back?||
Maybe this Beilein fellow knows what he's doing after all.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Your memory is terrible.||
That's not what he said and he was never a HS coach.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Not just that, but ND has shown they hold their||
athletes to a high academic standard, unlike many other places.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||NCAA minimums are higher than the||
admissions standards at many, probably most, public schools for in-state students. Obviously the flagship schools mostly have much higher requirements, but not many others do..
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I'm going to guess a relatively high percentage||
of Northwestern alums were never fans. That's probably true for any school without much athletic success that draws its students primarily from out of state. It's reflected in their attendance.
It was a bad article. The question in the title was never answered. Only talking about percentages leaves out a lot of the story.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Izzo benefitted by raising his program's profile||
at our expense. The point isn't which of his recent players would have gone to Michigan instead. It's the extent that he has been able to bring in high profile recruits that might have gone anywhere else.
Izzo's a good coach and would have found some success. But our implosion helped him establish their program at a higher level.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I don't think it's plausible that Nike will pay us||
about double the guaranteed money they pay schools like Alabama and OSU. I think that's about what it would take to give us the biggest contract over Notre Dame. It would cost them a lot of money when other contracts come up for renewal. Adidas has been willing to pay to make us their flagship school. With Nike's dominant standing, they have no need to do so. That being said, I wouldn't rule out some creative arrangement that might allow us to make that claim.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Yes. He's spoken of his interest and fwiw,||
the only recent crystal ball pick was for us.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||The Fresno camp is tomorrow.||
You're jumping the gun.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||We'd all prefer to hear from the coaches, but they||
can't say anything. We learn about offers, but that's about it.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I agree, although the norm is that more highly rated||
guys will drop than rise. Even if their evaluations remain the same. There are always going to be a number of underscouted players that shoot up, knocking those guys down a few spots. Hopefully we'll be getting more than our share of those late risers.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||That PA camp wasn't a satellite camp like||
the others. It was a charity fundraiser with 370 coaches that's been held for quite a few years running.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Not a comment on that article, but good satire is hard||
to write. And funny as it may be, it's often meant to be offensive. Bad satire is usually just offensive, whether intended or not.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I would think he would take any QB that can pass well||
enough to fit in his offense. Some dual threat QBs would be highly ranked if you disregarded their running ability.
I think the interesting question if whether he would take any that don't. He likes to take players that can be moved around if they don't work out at their first position. Carr took a few.dual threat QBs of both types. I wouldn't be surprised to see Harbaugh do the same, especially given how many QBs he signs.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Just curious, but is that what they always say about the top||
|4 weeks 3 hours ago||What did you have in mind?||
|4 weeks 6 hours ago||247 completely screwed up his composite numbers.||
The composite rating is exactly the same as their rating, but his rankings are all higher in the composite than 247's. That's despite his being a 2* or unranked on the other sites.
|4 weeks 6 hours ago||That's some pitiful writing,||
despite the correct usage of contravention. It made my head hurt worse than the incoming freshmen board post.
|4 weeks 6 hours ago||Reading comprehension?||
How does this statement turn into Houma is losing his number?
|4 weeks 10 hours ago||Aaron Ward tweeted something about Chris Chelios||
joining his staff.
|4 weeks 10 hours ago||You're right, but he can wear it this season||
and maybe have a better choice of numbers later.
|4 weeks 11 hours ago||Copy and paste?||
I have a hard time imagining that's what he did.
|4 weeks 13 hours ago||I'm not usually a grammar nazi,||
but that horrible title should be fixed. It's going to be on the front page all day. I hope this is something the mods deem worth doing. OP, I'll invite you to cut and paste this revision.
Incoming freshmen receive their numbers.
|4 weeks 15 hours ago||Ohio and Tressel||
Hoke and his staff had a ton of connections there already, but he also benefitted greatly by arriving right after Tressel left. Carr's success in recruiting Ohio fell off greatly due to Tressel. RR took a lot of players, but never had a chance with the top prospects.
Your Michigan narrative flies in the face of the facts and common sense. Harbaugh has offered more MI players this early than Hoke ever did. He and Wheatley have been visiting a lot of local schools and coaches, even some with no prospects. There's one vocal Detroit coach upset at Michigan, because of how Hoke used Norfleet.
There's always going to be someone complaining, people inventing stupid theories and rival fans making crap up. RR was affected by this. Local coaches and fans didn't know him and some chose to believe those determined to undermine him. Harbaugh is better known and isn't just letting things happen. He's everywhere, but especially visible in Michigan.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Blaming the NCAA is popular, but patently absurd in this||
case. How could the NCAA stop baseball from drafting players? Henson never entered the draft, something that the NFL and NBA require underclassmen to do. Henson was drafted directly out of HS. He wasn't even an underclassman yet.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||The author got part of that story backwards.||
Brady started every game while he and Henson were here. Early in the season Drew subbed in the first half, usually but not always, for the second quarter. I'm pretty sure that the MSU game was the only one in which he started the secnd half.
Mgoblue.com has an archive of postgame notes if you're interested in checking that out.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||By that logic the local coaches must have hated every||
Michigan coach since there were Rivals rankings.
Carr's last class had a 2* from VA and 3* players from CA (2), TX (2), SC, CO and Montreal. Only 3 from MI. Hoke's last class had 3*s from VA, MD, NJ, UT and a 2* from FL.
RR changed that how again?
|4 weeks 1 day ago||I'm confused. Didn't you just say something else?||
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Is there a guy anything like that writing on our side?||
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Our new AD is a smart guy.||
Michigan is sending someone from compliance to all of these camps to make sure there aren't any inadvertent violations. Gives me confidence that those photos are allowed.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Just a guess, but he probably got downvoted||
for mistakenly including Wheatley (NFL) and Zordich (only 1 year at an FCS school) to a short list of names. Then he doesn't seem to recognize that Wheatley has been a big factor in our in-state recruiting. If he wants to rag on the coaches, fine, but that's a weak post.
One of the main challenges this staff faces in recruiting is that very few of them have been doing it the past few seasons. It's unlikely you could find a staff that's more true for.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Struggled?||
Is it even true that Harbaugh has struggled with recruiting this class? I guess that depends on your expectations. Sure, those relationships help, but he's on track for a pretty strong class as it is. Better than anyone else coming off a losing record That's without anyone seeing a decent product on the field here for awhile. Some of the high ranking recruits will be looking for thatin the fall.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||There are very few states that allow minors to get tattoos||
without parental consent. Many don't allow it under any circumstances.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||We're actually his 6th D-1 (FBS) offer.||
Just the first power 5. Any wagers on whether we're the last?
|4 weeks 2 days ago||How much better do their results look||
due to changing rankings after offers go out?
|4 weeks 2 days ago||The ease of staying eligible in EL||
has been used as a recruiting tool on occasion.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||You may think you've been paying attention,||
but you haven't been.
Drake Johnson was a 2* to two services when he committed in Nov., 0* to the others.
Jake Ryan was a low 3* to one, a 2* and 0* to the others. That was close to LOI day.
Channing Stribling had 5* in total from 4 services. Same with Brandon Watson, both camp commits.
Drew Dileo was unranked.
There have been others. I'll bet that by the time signing day rolls around none of these commits will be 2*.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Saban's first SEC class was 2000 at LSU.||
That's pre-Rivals era. He took a lot of 2* players at LSU. It's hard to compare eras, as the scouting services evaluated fewer players in his days at LSU.
They also didn't semi-automatically bump up their ratings because someone like Saban took them. I'm willing to bet a lot of those early recruits at Alabama were lower rated when he offered them.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||A player with two power 5 offers is not going to get||
walk on offers. Not at this point in the process. I would agree though that offer lists reflect what coaches have seen up to this point. That's why the camp season is so important. It's hardly unsual to see recruitments blow up over the summer. In addition, plenty more kids are going to pop up on the radar and coaches will want to watch them more closely during their senior year.
This is why getting kids to your camps is a big advantage. Or in this case, bringing your camps to them. You're getting the opportunity to see more than other staffs do and can make better evaluations.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||You're right about the star system.||
There's certainly data to suggest that high ranked recruits as a whole are better prospects than their low ranked counterparts
On the other hand, there's reason to think that low ranked recruits offered by top coaches like Harbaugh are also better than their low ranked brethren. Which has the stronger correlation? I'm inclined to go with the coaches at this point in the process. The rating services often shift their ratings to reflect offers and can change them up to LOI day. That certainly helps them look better when they brag about their reliability..
|4 weeks 2 days ago||That story took up 3/4 of the front page||
of today's Ann Arbor News. It has me wondering why I subscribe.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||It sounded like some HS coaches were telling their||
players not to attend. What motivated that? The article left plenty of room to speculate.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Maybe not next year, but soon after, there will also be||
camps there from LSU, UF, UGA, etc. That's the whole reason for that SEC rule in the first place.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||"Harbaugh, another northern aggressor"||
The Civil War never completely ended in some places. Or the war of northern aggression, as it's called down there.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||What's the alternative?||
That Michigan could never offer any of the kids they saw at a camp? Doesn't make any sense. There are just certain recruiting related things they can't do during or before the camps.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Not sure how high exposure Prattville is.||
None of those coaches were offering his teammate Kingston Davis either until after he committed to Michigan.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Yeah, right.||
An Alabama kid is going to turn down a bunch of full ride offers to pay out of state tuition here. It's early, he'd at least wait to see if he got better offers.
He impressed the coaches and observers. Why is it hard to believe he got an offer?
|4 weeks 3 days ago||I just have one obvious question for you.||
What are you doing reading and commenting on recruiting threads. You don't care about the content and contribute less than nothing.