Niko Porikos grew up in an NTDP billet home. Cool story.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I'm pretty late to this||
I'm pretty late to this conversation, but what exactly is the point of this thread? We have who we have on the roster and we have a coach who excels at developing QBs. Are people ANGAR that Harbaugh isn't a god?
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Keep the double bird||
The Double Bird is a one-time-only event that should retain its unique place in our lore. Harbaugh tantrums will be many and varied.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||You're right, and I didn't||
You're right, and I didn't make my point clear. I'm simply saying that equating income with success is misguided, and that in many cases those who draw a lesser income often contribute more to society than, say, a professional athlete or Judge Judy.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I agree with almost||
I agree with almost everything you have said, particularly since my problem is with the people on this thread who equate success with income.
I view this from the perspective of someone who works in the national security apparatus, where there is a ton of room for people in STEM and also the liberal arts to make a contribution. But all of those people make far less than people from similar backgrounds, which is my point: there are a lot of people out there (Michigan grads especially) who forego higher salaries in order to make the world a better place, yet there is a vocal segment of our alumni base who doesn't seem to understand that.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||There are many ironies in||
There are many ironies in this thread, but the one that strikes me the most is that so many equate success with income. Aside from that being an ignorant and destructive way at viewing society, it runs antithetical to the Michigan ethos.
There are many Michigan grads who, ten years after enrollment, aren't making more than 60k annually. This is also true for other well-respected universities. This segment includes teachers, nurses, members of the armed services, other government employees (to include the entire national security apparatus), academia, and other non-profit positions.
The holier-than-thou tone of some folks on this thread is really interesting, considering (and I welcome a counter-argument) they are likely the ones contributing the least to humanity.
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||I was in the middle of a||
I was in the middle of a practice debate round in high school, the topic of which was the liklihood of terrorists using WMD in an attack against the United States. Pretty surreal.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Now I understand why they||
Now I understand why they buried the tape. Wow.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Yes, Harbaugh mentioned it in||
Yes, Harbaugh mentioned it in his Monday presser. It's unclear which play he was talking about but he did say "we played with ten on one play; we can't have that."
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Obviously you're not a||
Obviously you're not a golfer.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Safeties?||
Safeties (aside from Peppers) being a non-factor in your opinion is actually a huge positive, given the scheme we deployed in this game. We asked our secondary to do a lot and they handled it. The weaknesses we saw were in the LBs; Bolden got pulled for Ross perhaps a little too late.
Complaining about playing our often single-high safety 20 yards deep implies you either have no idea what this staff is trying to do defensively, or you're just complaining for the sake of complaining. Which is of course totally acceptable for Michigan fans.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Can you point to a play where||
Can you point to a play where our DBs playing off the line by 15 yards resulted in a significant play? Do you have any reason to believe this is purely contextual or indicative of a larger flaw in our defensive scheme for the season?
|5 weeks 2 days ago||We're all clearly paranoid||
We're all clearly paranoid about Stribling being involved in another transporter accident.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Drake Harris on offense and||
Drake Harris on offense and Channing Stribling on defense. Good play out of both of them could have a huge impact on the overall perfomance of both units.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Flight simulation, Star Trek,||
Flight simulation, Star Trek, military hardware, space
|8 weeks 2 days ago||LIBERALS AMIRITE!?!?||
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Getting to stadium from DC||
If I'm coming from DC without a car, what's the best way to get to the stadium? It's not exactly on the metro...
|12 weeks 2 days ago||I learned how standards work||
I learned how standards work on my first dirt bike when I was 12 or so, and it wasn't hard to translate that into driving a stick. The first car I really drove extensively was my ex-gf's father's 944 in high school.
|13 weeks 13 hours ago||I understand the law||
I understand the law completely, and I stand by my point. A free-rider criticizing those who pay for the good they are consuming for free is an interesting concept.
|13 weeks 14 hours ago||I find it interesting that||
I find it interesting that someone advocating an illegal alternative would strike such a holier than thou tone, but that's just me.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||I think you have it wrong||
What I never understood is how "cocksucker" became a derogatory term. It seems to me that, no matter your orientation, they are doing a service to somebody. Are you anti-blowjob?
Seems to me like they should be praised for the good they are doing society. Cowherd, on the other hand, is awful.
|15 weeks 3 days ago||Something about this seems||
Something about this seems weird.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Draftageddon!||
The mere mention of Draftageddon has me excited for the coming season. HARBAUGH!
|15 weeks 5 days ago||Assuming that Wuxia films||
Assuming that Wuxia films also count, I'm going with Hero.
|17 weeks 1 day ago||Utilities are absolutely||
Utilities are absolutely "national security stuff," and they should be more than fretting about the "possibility" that their systems may be compromised.
|17 weeks 1 day ago||From a national security||
From a national security perspective, this pales in comparison to what Snowden released. And I'm saying this as one of the affected.
|17 weeks 2 days ago||'68 Mercury Cougar||
Dad bought it when I was 13 (1999) and we spent the next couple of years restoring it. Convinced him to drop a 351C in place of the 302 it came with stock.
Pros: chick magnet, a ton of fun to drive
Cons: cop magnet, 13MPG, no A/C
Never going to get rid of it. Too many memories.
|20 weeks 23 hours ago||Or in this case we do know||
Or in this case we do know who is reading it, which is instructive.
|20 weeks 3 days ago||It seems to me that you and I||
It seems to me that you and I will never agree, since the core of my argument is that the playoffs should be decided by series (7 game series at that) in order to determine who is the better team. Short series and the spacing between the games allow teams to roll out their aces twice a series, whereas longer series are a test of depth.
Baseball has always been about the depth of teams. That is why the regular season is so long, and that is why until recently it was considered absurd to have anything but series. I don't entirely disagree with you and see that there is some merit to your reasoning, but I disagree with you entirely that these benefits outweigh the assault on the very core of the game itself.
There are 162 games in the regular season, and if one wildcard makes it in by a couple games over the next best ones, then so be it. Just like the Braves, they could have helped themselves by winning their games.
|20 weeks 3 days ago||I understand these arguments,||
I understand these arguments, but I think some of the positive components of what you outline are overridden by what happened in 2012 during the first iteration of this format. A 94 win Braves team had to play an 88 win Cardinals team and ultimately lost a game played under protest due to one of the worst calls I have ever seen. Anyone who watched that game - which wasn't many because it started at 5PM on a Friday - should understand why a one game anything in baseball is not tenable; precisely because of that randomness.
That the Cards went on to win the WS is a moot point, as they had no business being given equal treatment to a team that had a 6 game advantage on them, which played in a superior division, and which had won 5 of the 6 games against the Cardinals that season.
Any benefit is far outweighed by the above being allowed to happen.
|20 weeks 3 days ago||Baseball is somewhat random||
An individual baseball game is more "random" because there are far more variables at work than there are in basketball, for example, where the same 6-8 guys play the same 6-8 other who run more or less the same plays. In baseball the batter-pitcher matchup, coupled with just how difficult it is for the offense to score in general produces such outcomes.
I think baseball would be less "random" if the playoffs were as inclusive as other leagues, where the top 6-8 from the AL/NL each make it and they play a 7 game series (5 game series are too short IMO). In that scenario I think the better teams would win out at a similar rate as in football.
That being said, I would hate that as a baseball fan. I think the 1 game play-in game is an abomination that should be strapped to an ICBM and launched into the sun.
|21 weeks 14 hours ago||I never understood this and||
I never understood this and it drove me nuts while I was in A2. It's MEIJER not Meijers.
|21 weeks 1 day ago||In the student section right||
In the student section right behind a group of 30 or so PSU fans that were huge assholes to everyone around them the entire time. I can't believe how many M students sold their tickets during fall break; A2 was INFESTED with PSU bros that weekend. They were out on South U and elsewhere picking fights and whatnot the Friday before. Funny how they didn't seem to be around on Saturday night. This is when I lost all respect for PSU, well before the most recent...events.
This and Braylonfest were the two best live moments in sports for me.
That Saturday was one of the biggest party nights that took place while I was at M. I think because it was a generally terrible season to that point and the game ended at night the student body turned it up to 11.
|21 weeks 1 day ago||If I'm not mistaken that||
If I'm not mistaken that correction has to do with the speed of the satellite in orbit being faster than the speed of someone standing on the surface. The same principle would apply if you placed a clock on an extremely tall tower - the top is rotating faster than the base.
These are two different principles at work here. Says that guy who's never taken physics, anyway (me).
|21 weeks 1 day ago||At some point doesn't the||
At some point doesn't the University have to consider how far it is willing to go to remain competitive in this environment? I think we have two great coaches in Harbaugh and Beilein, but as the years go on, Michigan will be challenged in its ability to do things the right way while also remaining competitive. I think we are currently very near the edge of the envelope.
|21 weeks 2 days ago||This is true||
There is proof
|21 weeks 3 days ago||This post is the total||
This post is the total embodiment of a huge problem we have in this country.
|21 weeks 4 days ago||This is the same coaching||
This is the same coaching staff who set up shop at Penn State right after the Sandusky-related NCAA sanctions were imposed. As far as antics go, I wouldn't put anything past Beckman.
|22 weeks 2 days ago||I think my senior year||
I think my senior year (07-08) was probably the last year you could really sneak in as a late night destination. They kept everything locked, but we found a tree next to the fence on the on the Crisler side that was helpful in getting over the fence.
Depending on the security guard's enthusiasm and weather, you could get a lot of time in on the field. It was pretty epic after a fresh snow.
The best part is that the security lights were bright enough for you to see pretty well. I'm sure it's totally different now. Thanks, Dave Brandon.
|22 weeks 2 days ago||Here we go...||
Occupation? Nuclear security/nonproliferation
Alum? LSA 2008
Most MICHIGAN thing you've ever done? (funny, memorable, etc.) Snuck into the Big House at 1AM and played football. We got a whole hour in before being run off.
|22 weeks 3 days ago||5k - mid-80s 944 10k - 1996||
5k - mid-80s 944
10k - 1996 Honda Prelude VTEC (probably buy for 5-6k and spend the rest gussying it up)
15k - BMW M3
|22 weeks 3 days ago||So if I understand this||
So if I understand this correctly, boxing is a complete waste of time for anyone involved.
EDIT: anyone who isn't a sucker, since there are people making millions
|22 weeks 4 days ago||Iron Eagle||
The Iron Eagle soundtrack. All of it. Okay, maybe just Road of the Gypsy:
|22 weeks 6 days ago||Michigan is a football school||
I love Beilein and I love Michigan Basketball, but I yearn for the day when we are good at football again.
|23 weeks 1 day ago||I was just in Tbilisi, though||
I was just in Tbilisi, though Yerevan is great too. I of course read mgoblog while there so at least for a time there's two mgobloggers in the Caucasus.
EDIT: Okay, now there are at least three.
EDIT EDIT: I accidentally upvoted myself, so rather than living with that shame I downvoted myself.
|23 weeks 2 days ago||I'm not really sure they are||
I'm not really sure they are at a disadvantage in recruiting because Michigan is running a series of half day camps in the South. Auburn is permanently located in Alabama, so I don't think things have changed. Plus they pay their players, etc.
They are just whining because they are babies.
Also I think it's hilarious that Auburn thinks it is a bigger name than Michigan.
|25 weeks 2 days ago||I had similar experience too,||
I had similar experience too, and it was an extremely bizarre feeling. On one hand I wanted us to ruin what I perceived at the time to be a small chance they would make the playoffs, just so I could be assured that they wouldn't win it all.
On the other, I felt as you described - I needed Michigan to lose to ensure Hoke wouldn't be retained.
I don't know if I was happy, but I sure wasn't upset about the whole thing. I hope I never have to feel like that again.
|25 weeks 3 days ago||1) My 1968 Cougar, which my||
1) My 1968 Cougar, which my dad and I restored ourselves - can't let that one go
|26 weeks 5 days ago||(No subject)||
|26 weeks 5 days ago||To be fair, there are many||
To be fair, there are many white people who grasp this.
|26 weeks 5 days ago||Dat dog doh||
Frankly, I just feel sorry for that dog. He/she clearly knew that this whole thing was ridiculous but was unable to escape because of the leash. Everyone else involved appeared to be doing so under their own free will.
|27 weeks 1 hour ago||Barrow is about the same||
Barrow is about the same distance to China, Iceland, or Japan as it is to San Francisco, Denver, or Minneapolis. And they have HS football!
|27 weeks 1 day ago||Wasn't Crable also the one||
Wasn't Crable also the one who whiffed on the guy who blocked the FG against App State?
|27 weeks 3 days ago||But unquestionably a||
But unquestionably a relatively large fraction of college football fans. And we've been pretty mediocre for the past ten years or so.
|27 weeks 3 days ago||Haha! I have to admit that I||
Haha! I have to admit that I wasn't a big fan of this Kengurski fellow, but that won me over.
|28 weeks 3 days ago||I hate Bo Ryan with the fire||
I hate Bo Ryan with the fire of a thousand suns for precisely this reason. Does anyone remember last season when GR3 (I think it was him) landed on his head because a Wisconsin player undercut him?
Ryan teaches a style of play that, apart from being difficult to watch, exploits the shitty officiating of college basketball in a way that can be unsafe for players on the other team.
|28 weeks 5 days ago||If there are going to be||
If there are going to be gaming threads, they should at least involve games worthy of discussion. Cities: Skylines, Destiny, or pretty much anything that can't be played on a phone.
|30 weeks 3 days ago||WHERE DID THE FOOTBALL COME||
WHERE DID THE FOOTBALL COME FROM!? Does he just have one on him 24/7?
|30 weeks 4 days ago||If the sole purpose if your||
If the sole purpose if your e-existence is to bitch about RichRod's coaching job SEVEN YEARS AGO, why don't you do us all a solid and go find a nice Arizona blog?
Let it go, man. Just let it go.
|31 weeks 2 days ago||Sigh||
The more relevant question is how do you run any attack with a freshman Threet, walk-on Sheridan, and a combined 3 starts on the offensive line. If you're suggesting that we would have been any more successful running a pro style offense (which RR's staff didn't have experience doing anyway), then you are mistaken.
But hey, there's never a bad time to beat a dead horse seven years after the fact!
|31 weeks 3 days ago||This has partially been done||
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
|31 weeks 5 days ago||Michigan||
Michigan does. It's always been that way.
|35 weeks 6 days ago||You must have a lot of free||
You must have a lot of free time.
|36 weeks 2 days ago||I've been off the Internet||
I've been off the Internet for a while on a Kozan-like vision quest, so perhaps this has been answered already, but who the heck is this David Nasternack fellow?
|38 weeks 2 days ago||In case anyone needs an explanation of why they did it|
|39 weeks 2 days ago||Yes, because despite popular||
Yes, because despite popular belief he was a good coach, a good guy, and tried his best to help Michigan win. It didn't work out, just like Hoke.
|39 weeks 3 days ago||I support the OP||
For three reasons:
1) Many people don't seem to understand that such avatars, no matter how small, can make others in the office uncomfortable. Even if I'm not personally offended, I don't like having to stay on red alert while scrolling through mgoboard.
2) There is no real reason to have them anyway. It seems to me that, even if only a few people request that they be taken down, the reasonable reaction should be to take your avatar down and come up with something more original. What are you trying to prove by having women in bikinis, exactly?
3) From Brian's perspective, I'd want as many people viewing my blog as possible. If people are starting to shy away from viewing at work because of avatars, pictures, .gifs, etc., then that's an actual problem that has a simple solution.
I suspect that the NOT A BIG DEAL BRO THEY'RE JUST BOOBS YOU SHOULDN'T EVEN BE ON MGOBLOG AT WORK ANYWAY!!1! types on here have not worked in a setting that requires actual professionalism and respect for one's colleagues.
Thanks for posting.
|43 weeks 2 days ago||Are you a long time lurker||
Are you a long time lurker who decided to go ALL IN last month, or were you previously banned? Just curious.
|45 weeks 4 days ago||Oh great, another asshole who||
Oh great, another asshole who recently signed up for mgoboard. We need MOAR!
|46 weeks 3 days ago||Russell Bellomy||
I was never a big fan to begin with, but the moment Bellomy stepped onto the field against Nebraska was the moment I knew it wasn't going to work out.
|46 weeks 3 days ago||Russell Bellomy||
I was never a big fan to begin with, but the moment Bellomy stepped onto the field against Nebraska was the moment I knew it wasn't going to work out.
|48 weeks 22 hours ago||So your response is to create||
So your response is to create a thread about the possibility of Michigan hiring Swinney? Okay.
|49 weeks 4 days ago||John Harbaugh, really?||
Can someone please explain to me why John Harbaugh would be wise? Is there any evidence that suggests he would be a better coach at the college level than other, more likely candidates?
1. JIM HARBAUGH
3. Mark Stoops
4. Tom Herman
|52 weeks 15 hours ago||Oh I would say we are the||
Oh I would say we are the Cadillac of conferences.
|1 year 2 days ago||I'm not sure you understand||
I'm not sure you understand the concept of depth.
|1 year 1 week ago||Please go away||
Dude this is a FREE site. Quit your complaining and just leave if you don't like the content.
|1 year 1 week ago||Bacon has reported many times||
Bacon has reported many times that other coaches around the country find that practice to be absurd, and at least one premier coach told Bacon they would never coach at a place where the AD does that.
|1 year 1 week ago||Kind of a dick move by||
Kind of a dick move by Brandon parking his car that close to the driver's door. You know Hoke isn't squeezing in there.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||No it doesn't, but I don't||
No it doesn't, but I don't think there is any question about the level of competence of the MSU coaching staff. They have been one of the best teams in the conference the past few years and they are doing that with predominantly 3 star talent.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||I think you tend to get the||
I think you tend to get the benefit of the doubt when you have a proven track record of success, but that's just me.
|1 year 5 weeks ago||I think the hit rate on||
I think the hit rate on Klingon jokes would be quite high in this crowd. It probably is missed by a lot of people, but Brian has a ton of Star Trek references in his posts.
|1 year 5 weeks ago||Am I missing some kind of||
Am I missing some kind of inside joke where Kalis is referred to as Kali's or do people feel compelled to add the apostraphe in there in some sort of an attempt to make him a klingon folk hero?
It pops up so frequently and it has left me confuzzled.
|1 year 6 weeks ago||They also "stole" Brionte||
They also "stole" Brionte Dunn from us or something like that.
|1 year 7 weeks ago||But I thought we were in the||
But I thought we were in the trust tree...
|1 year 10 weeks ago||This thread turned out much||
This thread turned out much differently than I expected based on the title. Carry on.
EDIT: I also just started Fukuyama's Origins of Political Order so perhaps I am biased
|1 year 11 weeks ago||Not sure if you have Skyrim||
Not sure if you have Skyrim on PC but if so then it's well worth the time to mod the game. The graphics/textures/UI mods in particular turn an already great game into a vastly improved one.
|1 year 12 weeks ago||The only way these guys got||
The only way these guys got that weapon system is through the Russian government.
|1 year 12 weeks ago||The fireworks alone don't||
The fireworks alone don't really upset me, but it seems like every little (or not-so-little) step we take in the direction of WOW, it's a step away from what we have traditionally been about.
It's like that analogy where you slowly boil a frog or something.
|1 year 16 weeks ago||I'm no psychologist, but this||
I'm no psychologist, but this seems...unbalanced.
|1 year 17 weeks ago||I understand that there is||
I understand that there is plenty of self promotion on this message board, and I don't like harshing on people, but doesn't this violate the bleacher report rule? Mods, please say yes.
|1 year 18 weeks ago||Two words, dude: Star||
Two words, dude: Star Citizen. Also SteamBox and related efforts.
With the consoles having made the transitions to what are essentially PCs, I think the PC is likely to regain its primacy in terms of platform in the medium term.
|1 year 18 weeks ago||This is mostly because the||
This is mostly because the PS3 architecture was significantly different (and as I understand it, notoriously more difficult to code for) than the 360. This generation, the XB1 and PS4 are virtually identical in architecture. Last generation was like comparing apples to oranges in many ways; this generation it's apples to apples and the PS4 is clearly the superior machine.
|1 year 18 weeks ago||PS4||
I really struggled with this, having owned the original Xbox and then the 360 for over a decade. I really liked those systems and was a fan of Xbox Live. I ultimately decided on the PS4 because I feel like Microsoft abandoned the core gaming audience for a more casual entertainment approach, and the lack of performance from a graphics and framerate standpoint is substantial.
There are fewer and fewer exclusives, and I think Sony wins out here too. I was a die hard Halo fan but the franchise has gotten stale. Since I own a PC that is a superior system to either, I can get any game I really want between that and a PS4. Plus I hated not having a good baseball game to play, so it's been nice having MLB The Show for a change.
|1 year 19 weeks ago||I think the issue is that we||
I think the issue is that we are talking about football coaches here. In the grand scheme of things - particularly related to education - these guys aren't really all that important. To name positions in the athletic department (AD, head coach, coordinator) after donors kind of elevates their jobs to something that they really aren't.
At least when people contribute money to build an academic building or create a scholarship they are doing something that creates public good and should be recognized as such. Donating money to an athletic department, while good for us Michigan fans, probably isn't an obvious public service.
|1 year 26 weeks ago||There may be some relatively||
There may be some relatively small versions of what happens down in the SEC around here, but many of the driving factors that enable such a pervasive culture of corruption as described in this article don't exist in the big ten footprint.
If the B1G schools played this game I'd think that we'd see a lot more players from the south coming north, as well as a much better overall W-L record on the field. The current state of the conference suggests to me most B1G schools are not playing this game.
|1 year 26 weeks ago||Don't sleep on Irvin||
Don't sleep on Irvin
|1 year 29 weeks ago||As far as I understand,||
As far as I understand, transparent aluminum has been around since the mid 1980s.
|1 year 29 weeks ago||Pretty much everything about||
Pretty much everything about this post - including the avatar - is creepy.
|1 year 33 weeks ago||I assume girls are also||
I assume girls are also eligible for this position?
|1 year 33 weeks ago||Seems like every other game||
Seems like every other game at this point the other team has had a guy on fire/having a career game against us. Yogi, Marble, now Kaminski. This isn't a coincidence - this team just isn't very good defensively.
Combine that with poor shooting, carelessness on offense, and not showing up the first half...well there you go. Hopefully we can get things turned around come tournament time, but who knows.
|1 year 35 weeks ago||If you go down the line of||
If you go down the line of matchups, I think the margin is pretty small.
Burke > Walton - this is the biggest mismatch in my opinion
THJ > LeVert - THJ wasn't always "on," so it's feasible that LeVert could outplay him on a given day
`13 Stauskas < `14 Stauskas - This is a huge mismatch. Stauskas of this year would destroy Stauskas of yesteryear.
`13 GR3 < `14 GR3 - While he is periodically absent, there's no question this year's version is better.
McGary > Horgan - This would be a pretty significant mismatch for most anyone, but I think Horgan could hold their own against Mitch on most days.
Frankly I'd give the game to whichever team was playing at home. Not sure last year's team would be able to come out of a hostile 2014 Crisler environment with a win.
|1 year 37 weeks ago||I use it almost exclusively||
I use it almost exclusively as a means to stay aware of current events and to make sure that I don't miss content on sites I follow. But I guess staying informed in real time and ensuring I'm never bored on the Internet has no objective value.
You don't have to tweet with your twitter account and you're not forced to follow any account you deem unworthy. Perhaps the twitter bubble you created for yourself was composed mostly of petty morons.
|1 year 39 weeks ago||I second this. The mods for||
I second this. The mods for Skyrim vastly improve an already great game.
|1 year 40 weeks ago||I think it's reasonable to||
I think it's reasonable to conclude that Hoke is squarely on the hot seat right now, pending of course the results of next season.
|1 year 40 weeks ago||I could have been clearer||
I could have been clearer here, but I am not making the argument that the spread offense is superior to pro-style in terms of on-the-field success, but saying that for non-experts it's not surprising to express preference for something that is more clearly understood.
If the "flaw" to which you are refering is the predictability of play calling in a run-to-spread attack, I don't think it's a flaw because the source of that predictability is the alignment of the defense and not whatever play the offense is in when they get to the LOS. Basically you can have a pretty good idea of what's about to happen when you see where the defense is the weakest.
|1 year 40 weeks ago||I'm pretty sure the term||
I'm pretty sure the term "manball" was created as a way to describe Brady Hoke's attitude toward how "real football" should be played, and was never intended to describe a scheme or even evaluate its effectiveness. And it was coined prior to Hoke coaching a game here.
Hoke believes (or at least has stated as much) that spread offenses are not physical enough to adequately prepare a defense. As you've pointed out, however, the offense we run doesn't reflect what Hoke stated publicly upon his hire, so he's obviously flexible.
Have you ever considered the fact that the reason why so many people (me included) like the spread offense is because it's conceptually very simple? I can look at the K-State offense and tell you what's going to happen pre-snap at a pretty good success rate. I understand Rodriguez's offense.
I have to admit I have no idea what Al Borges is trying to accomplish, other than throwing a bunch of different formations at people and trying to create breakdowns in the secondary. I suppose there would be a running game involved in an ideal world but we have yet to see one that really works for reasons you've covered ad nausem.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||Forgot the /s, but figured||
Forgot the /s, but figured it'd be obvious given BOB
|1 year 42 weeks ago||Yeah they'd never hire an||
Yeah they'd never hire an assistant with no HC experience.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||Or when you decide to||
Or when you decide to celebrate Christmas at the in-law's house you just get coal.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||That is not logical.||
That is not logical.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||This is tremendous news.||
This is tremendous news. Thanks for everything you do, Brian.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||I would like some of whatever||
I would like some of whatever it is you're smoking. Prolific? LOLOLOLOL
|1 year 45 weeks ago||I'm not sure what benefit a||
I'm not sure what benefit a UFR would bring at this point, since the same thing happens every week. I can do a quick summary of the would-be UFR:
Defense: Good and getting better each week, but still inconsistent at times. Secondary rotations are puzzling. Got worn out in the 4th quarter due to offensive ineptitude.
Offense: a morass; a complete failure from the top-down; the source of all things depressing; evidence that Michigan will not compete for B1G titles, let alone be relevant nationally for years to come.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||I've only been a Michigan fan||
I've only been a Michigan fan since 2004, my freshman year. Suffice it to say 2011 is my only taste of victory, though the entire 2006 season was quite a time to be on campus. It's hard to describe the electricity in the air over the course of the season, and the surreal feeling that washed over campus as word of Bo's passing spread. 2006 was basically a slow, steady build into a crescendo during Ohio State week (they were still Ohio State back then). The entire season was really about the epic showdown everyone wanted to see at the end, and we got that. Too bad it didn't turn out for the best.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||For some reason I've reached||
For some reason I've reached the point where this post has caused uncontrollable laughter by me.
|1 year 47 weeks ago||He outright said that the||
He outright said that the longevity of the coaching staff was a major factor, so once I heard that I knew it wasn't going to be Michigan. True or not, the perception that Hoke is the long-term guy at Michigan is very much in question. At least relative to Saban and Bama.
|1 year 47 weeks ago||Obligatory question about||
Obligatory question about streaming the game...doesn't seem likely, does it?
|1 year 48 weeks ago||:(||
|1 year 48 weeks ago||I think my post has finally||
I think my post has finally come full circle with this comment. mGrowOld, I'm clearly a couple of decades behind you, but we're on the same page emotionally when it comes to this team. Frankly, I can trace my mental state of being back to the moment Bellomy took the field in Lincoln; we are lost.
I won't ever be able to not watch Michigan, but I'm glad I've reached a spot where I can digest our football games without having outcomes affect me one way or another. The most upsetting thing about all of this is that I am not upset.
|1 year 48 weeks ago||I don't understand why this||
I don't understand why this season has numbed me. Every game feels more like a task that I must do. I emoted nothing positive nor negative while watching the MSU game.
We're objectively a better team than even RR's 2010 team, yet I've never felt this feeling of pervasive apathy and aloofness.
|1 year 50 weeks ago||Oh for Pete's sake people,||
Oh for Pete's sake people, it's DOMINANT not dominate.
|1 year 50 weeks ago||Troll||
Wow you're just a total asshole, aren't you? Given the participation by so many people here, it seems this thread isn't so ridiculous after all.
|1 year 51 weeks ago||I think you literally don't||
I think you literally don't understand what literally means. Literally.
Also, the tone of mgoblog has been fairly consistent over the course of the season. Our offense is an abomination, and there is not rational excuse for what we're seeing. This line is worse than the 2008 line. Perhaps the comments have reached a "spartan level of atrociousness" because the offense has reached (and arguably surpassed) a spartan level of atrociousness.
|1 year 51 weeks ago||Internet awkwardness! *walks||
Internet awkwardness! *walks out of room*
|1 year 51 weeks ago||I think we're overlooking||
I think we're overlooking just how little talent this PSU team has.
|2 years 3 days ago||I think we should just have||
I think we should just have robots play the sport and computers officiate it. After all, all of us watch college football to experience perfection by players, coaches, and officials!
|2 years 1 week ago||Part of that is that Ohio hit||
Part of that is that Ohio hit a couple of deep passes, forcing them to play off a bit
|2 years 2 weeks ago||Easy there, fuzzy little||
Easy there, fuzzy little man-peach.
|2 years 2 weeks ago||This is all part of our||
This is all part of our effort to build THE BRAND
|2 years 3 weeks ago||Your internet tone suggests||
Your internet tone suggests you are a huge douche, who's also amazingly immune to irony. Good for you.
|2 years 5 weeks ago||I think it's pretty clear||
I think it's pretty clear there is a significant difference between the two blogs. Seth gave a detailed and honest analysis to their questions, while their dude didn't play ball. Not that I'm surprised.
To hell with Notre Dame!
|2 years 5 weeks ago||I agree with this, though I||
I agree with this, though I hate to admit it. I am definitely a fan of the spread offense because it allows you to line up, see how the defense aligns, and then call a play based on that. With that said, you can execute that strategy without being abusive. We did the same thing under Rodriguez, but we weren't really an "up-temo" team compared to most spread offenses.
It's hard to write the rules to allow offenses to execute that strategy, but without being abusive by not allowing defenses to dictating to the officials the pace of the game. I think the NFL has it right in how they handle tempo.
|2 years 5 weeks ago||Our interior offensive line||
Our interior offensive line clearly has some work to do. It seemed to me that we ran a lot of zone blocking early, and then started getting into pulling later. Had mixed results with both. We were pulling the tackles a lot too, with mixed results too.
Last year's line was consistently bad. I think this year's line will be good, but inconsistent. Notre Dame will be a great early test, though I'm not terribly optimistic.
|2 years 6 weeks ago||I respectfully request that||
I respectfully request that you never use "nite" again. It is the worst.
|2 years 6 weeks ago||A lot of football recruits||
A lot of football recruits come from backgrounds where there wasn't much parenting, which is clearly the case with Hernandez. I'm obviously not justifying anything, but it's important to understand that a lot of guys playing FBS football come from difficult circumstances.
|2 years 6 weeks ago||That game crushed my||
That game crushed my soul-dong so much. I still believe we'd have been in the Rose Bowl had DG been ready to play.
|2 years 6 weeks ago||Seriously, man. I don't get||
Seriously, man. I don't get it either. Football needs to happen soon.
|2 years 7 weeks ago||Definition from official MLB||
Definition from official MLB rules:
"The STRIKE ZONE is that area over home plate the upper limit of which is a horizontal line at the midpoint between the top of the shoulders and the top of the uniform pants, and the lower level is a line at the hollow beneath the kneecap. The Strike Zone shall be determined from the batter’s stance as the batter is prepared to swing at a pitched ball."
The thing is that, with the strike zone, a "bad call" is more about whether or not the strike zone is consistent. Different umpires have different strike zones, and players adjust to that. As long as balls and strikes are called consistently over the course of an entire game, then everyone is happy.
Now, please explain to me how you would institute an automated system that could reliably adjudicate balls and strikes based on the above definition that the players would themselves accept, keeping in mind that all these guys grew up with real life, and far less competent humans as umpires.
It would seem that in this debate, you don't have the easier side after all.
|2 years 7 weeks ago||I consider myself somewhat of||
I consider myself somewhat of a purist and, while not thrilled about replay, I can live with it.
|2 years 8 weeks ago||I'm not sure his||
I'm not sure his participation in this piece really changes that. This project - prima facie, at least - seems to be a legitimate journalistic endeavour, seeking to document the personal aspect of the arduous recruiting process experienced by such a highly-coveted prospects like Hand.
If the trailer is an accurate depiction of the series, I think this will be less about HYPE and more about the pressure associated with the spotlight being shined on recruits who don't seek it out.
|2 years 8 weeks ago||You worry too much about||
You worry too much about things of little consequence. That doesn't seem healthy.
|2 years 9 weeks ago||Oregon vs. Trash Tornado||
Having been at both The Horror and the ensuing Oregon beat down, I can tell you that the Oregon game was FAR worse psychologically than the Trash Tornado. It's the only game I couldn't bear to finish watching, which I'm not proud to admit.
|2 years 10 weeks ago||We're talking about the||
We're talking about the school and fan base that honored Jim Tressel at halftime during a season where, had he not been a complete sleazeball, they would've played for a national championship.
And then they went out and got 12-0 rings made. Completely absurd.
|2 years 10 weeks ago||Everything about this - from||
Everything about this - from the bracelet to the 11W description - is a perfect example of why Ohio is Ohio.
BONUS bonus: the comments are fantastic.
|2 years 10 weeks ago||So I suppose the Wall Street||
So I suppose the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times are also off-limits? I just don't understand the notion that just because something is published in a publication with a poltical lean automatically means it's not worth reading, or that the article itself is even political.
It's clear that anyone who has issues with this post hasn't even attempted to read the essay, which is an excerpt from a book published by an academic.
There is no way the OP can be construed as being in violation of board policy since 1) the post itself isn't political (it's about sports and schadenfreude, two topics we hold dear) and 2) even the political part of the essay is an academic discussion.
It'd be tragic (and a little ironic) if a perfectly innocuous OP, calling for a bit of intellectual discussion on schadenfreude in sports, got locked because posters made it about poltiics and refused to actually read the damn thing and have an interesting discussion. Truly would be demonstrative of where this board has gone since the haloscan days.
|2 years 10 weeks ago||Not that anyone cares here,||
Not that anyone cares here, but the author is a psychologist who published a book on this topic. There is discussion of politics in the last third of the article, but it doesn't seem to be slanted in one way or another. Believe it or not it's possible to discuss politics from a purely academic standpoint.
Either way, it's completely reasonable by the OP to ask people to look at the sports-related portions of the essay (which is at least 2/3rds of it) and ignore the rest. Especially when the "rest" isn't even controversial.
|2 years 14 weeks ago||I'm afraid not. I've been||
I'm afraid not. I've been around these parts since the haloscan days making the same arguments. Frankly, I don't even know who that dude is except that he's apparently been banned a few times.
EDIT: Now I get it. It's the "Ghost of..." dude. Clearly my <500 points since day zero on this site indicate my level of awareness.
|2 years 14 weeks ago||Since you and I appear to be||
EDIT: Apparently Ferbert got banned. I will now prepare to experience the full brunt of the TL;DR crowd.
Since you and I appear to be continually negged anyway, I see no reason not to respond.
1) Since each recruit is a different human being, their decision models are unique. I think that about clears that up.
2) I don't see much difference in WR recruiting under Hoke when compared to RR or even late Carr. Sure, we had some great receivers under Carr but their rankings as recruits weren't much different than what we're getting now. I will concede that WR recruiting is a concern of mine, but I think it's too early. My argument that we've landed elite talent under Hoke still stands (Harris, Darboh, even Funchess and Butt would count here considering the system change).
3) My argument here is that he is inappropriately implying that Artavis Scott isn't able to sort out the signal from the noise. The poster explicitly compares his own individual memories as a Michigan fan to what he assumes Scott is looking at in making his selection of school. I am saying that you should give the recruit the benefit of the doubt and not automatically assume he's a moron.
4) I was perhaps a bit unclear here. I'm simply saying that any recruit has a much better understanding of how their own life will be impacted than any fan could. I don't think that we as fans can claim to have any "inside" knowledge when it comes to this stuff. EIther way, this isn't really that important of a point.
5) My argument here really isn't about exposure or touches, but about the way each WR position is conceptualized in the offenses. I think it's obvious that the coaches sell the role of the position very differently, but the skillset may not be all that different. Either way, my point is that receivers coming out of high school can be sold in different ways on this.
6) Don't worry, there's no need to spend 15 minutes to explain the difference. I presume the reason why you have such a bad reputation around here is that you start talking to people personally and not about what they're arguing. I'll ignore that whole part.
I'm not sure what your argument is. I said in response that WR recruits will not be looking at our offense over the past 2 years, or even Denard's performance under Hoke. I referenced the 2010 season as the most comparable offense to Clemson merely to show that there really isn't a comparison that any recruit should make; essentially I am arguing that Denard's performance under Hoke is not only irrellevant, but also that no recruit would even consider it as such.
|2 years 14 weeks ago||1) We aren't dealing with||
1) We aren't dealing with average high school kids; we're dealing with elite athletes who have unique decision models when it comes to making an epically important decision. To assume their decision comes down to ESPN highlight reels of the most recent two seasons is ridiculous.
2) The change in offense hasn't hampered this coaching staff when it comes to recruiting at literally every position. We've at this point landed elite talent at every position on offense.
3) You assume that a recruit is making a decision based on a highlight reel they've composed in their mind over the past season or two. This is patently absurd. The elite ones especially have a lot of people in their ear.
4) Artavis Scott isn't exactly an "outsider" like you claim since he's been in direct conversation with the coaching staff. This means you've not only mischaracterized his role in the recruiting process, but you you also think you're some kind of "insider" having followed this football program.
5) Clemson and Michigan run different systems on offense, so the role of a WR in each is quite different. Unless you think Scott is a moron, he understands this.
6) When Michigan was running the offense Denard was recruited for, and which Clemson runs presently, Denard was an ALL AMERICAN. I don't think this is lost on high school recruits, and I certainly don't think they are under the impression the offense they saw the last two seasons is going to be the way forward.
The next time you're "just saying" something in a post, you might want to put a modicum of thought into it. Scott just felt more comfortable at Clemson, so that's where he will go. The recruiting results under Hoke would seem to indicate that the majority of the elite athletes we recruit end up putting on the helmet.
|2 years 15 weeks ago||Well, one of them plays QB||
Well, one of them plays QB and the other plays CB. That seems like a pretty big difference to me.
|2 years 18 weeks ago||It's just one extra||
It's just one extra keystroke!
|2 years 19 weeks ago||Can we ban this guy please?||
Can we ban this guy please?
|2 years 19 weeks ago||I think DS9 is clearly the||
I think DS9 is clearly the best series of them all. TNG was very episodic and excellent on its own merits, whereas DS9 was an entire (and epic!) story arc that took place over seven seasons. I think the fact that DS9 is "parked" near Bajor allows the show to dig very deep into issues and subject matter. In this sense there was a lot more political intrigue with so many moving parts, characters and factions with different goals and interests.
|2 years 19 weeks ago||You wouldn't be lost, though||
You wouldn't be lost, though I'd recommend at least seeing the first reboot movie (2009). At most you'll be missing out on a lot of canonical references, but that's not vital to your enjoying the movie.
As a pretty die hard Trek fan, I think it's definitely worth seeing.
|2 years 19 weeks ago||This is almost as cool as the||
This is almost as cool as the time Captain Pic...Patrick Stewart conducted the band at halftime during the 2006 Ball State game.
|2 years 20 weeks ago||(No subject)|
|2 years 20 weeks ago||I can't imagine any baseball||
I can't imagine any baseball player worth his salt would want to spend his college career playing on a turf field. I suppose we'll see how this all works out...
|2 years 22 weeks ago||*||
*A-B-C-D-E-F-G-H-I-J-K-L-M-N-O-P-Q-R-S-T-A-L-L-I-O-N, I am the stallion mang.
|2 years 24 weeks ago||I hear they're working a JDDM||
I hear they're working a JDDM -Joint Direct Donut Munitions to deliver them laser guided.
|2 years 24 weeks ago||The people of the United||
The people of the United States stand for the rule of law and the democratic principles upon which this country was founded. Terrorism, no matter the source or the political motivation, runs contratry to those ideals. Patriotism, or belief in the principles of our society, has everything to do with our response to the Boston incident.
Also, while this appears to be a homegrown incident, we can't at this point rule out AQAP or other foreign groups. You should straighten your understanding of the political philisophy underpinning our country, as well as your understanding of terrorism generally before you make statements like this.
|2 years 27 weeks ago||Ok, that's hilarious.||
Ok, that's hilarious.
|2 years 28 weeks ago||I'm in 98th percentile on||
I'm in 98th percentile on ESPN with my entire Elite Eight intact except for Gonzaga, which puts me in pretty good shape to win my pools.
I just need Michigan to win...
|2 years 28 weeks ago||Oh what a surprise, a Clowney||
Oh what a surprise, a Clowney reference in a basketball article.
|2 years 29 weeks ago||Call me an old-timer (I'm||
Call me an old-timer (I'm only 26), but I just don't give a damn about playing Maryland even if, as a DC resident, I get to see Michigan once every other year in town.
I just don't care about Maryland or Rutgers, whereas I actually do care about the rich history Michigan has playing teams like Minnesota and Iowa. I like Kinnick Stadium's pink locker room and I like the Jug.
For example, Maryland fans can't even fill their own basketball arena unless they're playing Duke, where the inferiority complex is even worse than Michigan State fans. Maryland's football stadium will look a lot like Northwestern's when it comes to hosting conference foes since none of them give a damn about Maryland football. They're fair weather fans at best.
|2 years 29 weeks ago||This should probably be in||
This should probably be in the rant thread.
|2 years 30 weeks ago||I'm not saying I agree with||
I'm not saying I agree with Jethro, and I understand where the coaches were coming from: you want your best 11 guys on the field and Gardner was a servicable wide receiver. My argument is twofold:
1) The WRs were actually pretty good without Gardner and his presence at wideout didn't really make a difference.
2) In this conference with a QB like Denard, you have to have two quarterbacks ready to play. Bellomy was not ready and him as QB = automatic loss against any Big Ten team. We were actually moving the ball on Nebraska quite effectively until Denard went out; whether Gardner coming in instead of Bellomy would have resulted in a win is a question mark, but Bellomy's presence guaranteed a loss. With Gardner we have a chance to win the game and head to Indy and possibly Rose Bowl. (This is in a hypothetical world where Gardner was the actual #2 QB all season)
My ultimate point is that Hoke and Borges have NOT earned the right to be unquestionable with respect to decision making at quarterback. I think it's a settled matter that recruiting rankings DO matter, so I can understand why some people would be a little uneasy bringing in a guy like Speight. That said, I will give Hoke the benefit of the doubt since he's obviously a good football coach.
|2 years 30 weeks ago||I understand that, and it was||
I understand that, and it was ultimately their decision to make. I think hindsight has borne out that the WR corps was just fine without Gardner and that Bellomy was not a viable option at QB. As Magnus pointed out, the admittedly small sample size of Bellomy scrimmage/game action has not shown he is capable of running this offense.
Put another way: what game might Michigan had lost with Gardner not playing WR? What game might Michigan had won with Gardner playing QB? These are counterfactuals to be sure, but from a risk/reward standpoint I think they are valid.
|2 years 30 weeks ago||I'd say Gardner's performance||
I'd say Gardner's performance the remainder of the season, coupled with the re-emergence of Gallon and Roundtree are evidence that having Gardner ready to play QB was the best option.
The complaint isn't that they put Bellomy at QB instead of Gardner in the Nebraska game; it's that Gardner wasn't ready to play by design.
|2 years 30 weeks ago||If there's one bone to pick||
If there's one bone to pick with this coaching staff, it's their handling of the QB position. Denard regressed under Borges (due to scheme, coaching, or whatever - it happened and wasn't related to injury). They thought Bellomy was actually a viable option.
Recruiting rankings are not the final word by any means, but as has been mentioned before, this staff has not earned the "trust without skepticism" status many people commenting here have given them when it comes to quarterback.
|2 years 33 weeks ago||What is with that, anyway?||
What is with that, anyway?
|2 years 33 weeks ago||You're right that if we're||
You're right that if we're trying to weigh the factors that have led to our atrocious defense, it's really hard to figure out how much youth, leadership, coaching, fatigue, scheme, etc. contribute to the outcome.
I do agree that defense at this level is complex, but we're not even executing simple things at this point. We look lost out there, and we don't seem to be playing with any sort of confidence or intensity. I'm just not so sure that youth alone (they all have plenty of experience at this point) can account for missed assignments and late rotations, particularly against a team like Penn State.
Hopefully this time off will allow the team to work on fundamentals and figure out a way to stop the slide. Even with our youth, this team should be better than Northwestern defensively.
|2 years 33 weeks ago||Thank you, Alex. That was||
Thank you, Alex. That was quite helpful.
|2 years 33 weeks ago||Understandable. FWIW I don't||
Understandable. FWIW I don't think the event itself is at all political, and I'm not even sure why it's called the congressional breakast. Hence the reason why I started the thread.
|2 years 34 weeks ago||Actually if you go back and||
Actually if you go back and look at it he was set. He beat the guy to the spot. Not to mention that there is nothing in the rule book that says a player's feet can't be moving for it to be a charge.
|2 years 37 weeks ago||You could at least change the||
You could at least change the tag at the bottom.
|2 years 37 weeks ago||I don't know. I live in DC||
I don't know. I live in DC and know a decent amount of Maryland fans. Their biggest rivals, Duke and UNC, don't even know they are rivals. It's like Illinois saying Michigan is their rival in football.
And as far as last night's win, the team didn't even make an attempt to shake hands with the NC State team. And the students rushing the court for beating the 15th ranked team at home? Am I missing something? That's amateur hour in my opinion.
|2 years 38 weeks ago||(No subject)||
|2 years 38 weeks ago||I understand that and, if you||
I understand that and, if you re-read my post, I acknowledge that it takes an impressive athlete to deliver a hit like that. It was a good play, but that doesn't crack the top 100 plays he's made if I'm an NFL scout.
If you go to any message board (and even talking heads on radio/TV) other than this one the narrative is that he straight up beat Lewan and that is what separates us mgoblogerati as football enthusiasts from the ignorant masses. I mean people are taking out ad space about it, for crying out loud.
|2 years 38 weeks ago||The whole thing that's||
The whole thing that's frustrating about THE HIT (OMG) is that it wasn't really the result of anything impressive that Clowney did. There was a communication error at the line where Kwitiakowski thought he and Lewan were to combo block the guy but instead it was supposed to be just him (an arguably ill-advised assignment).
So Clowney was essentially unblocked due to a missed assignment and, being large and strong, put a big hit on a guy in the backfield who had just received the handoff. Sure it looked gnarly, but it's not at all a great play by Clowney's part.
|2 years 42 weeks ago||So we're really all upset||
So we're really all upset because the existence of our offensive coordinator is a source of joy for Ohio fans, right?
|2 years 42 weeks ago||Well this is disappointing.||
Well this is disappointing.
|2 years 45 weeks ago||Except for that time when, as||
Except for that time when, as a first year starter, Denard put up better numbers than Miller or Martinez. He also was a 1st team All American.
|2 years 45 weeks ago||I'm not sure what you've seen||
I'm not sure what you've seen that gives you confidence we can beat them next year.
|2 years 46 weeks ago||I hope you played football||
I hope you played football for UM, because that is the absolute worst reason to go (or not go) to a school otherwise. And the degree is not the bonus.
|2 years 47 weeks ago||(No subject)|
|2 years 51 weeks ago||See the Michigan teams that||
See the Michigan teams that got gashed by various spread offenses. We have the ability to pull in guys that have both size and speed, and I believe we are doing just that. Ondre Pipkins is a prime example.
|2 years 52 weeks ago||I think he's talking about||
I think he's talking about the line relative to what the coaching staff wants to be able to d in the future. This is an above average line, but it's still not that great when it comes to executing the type of (POWER/MANBALL) running game this staff wants to get to. At leat that's how I interpreted it.
Also, your avatar is brilliant. Who is that?
|3 years 3 days ago||You and I agree that they||
You and I agree that they called a good run blitz. Where we disagree is why it was a good blitz. I am arguing that the guy who blew up the play was able to do so because the defense schematically is not concerned with the outside receivers when we are running an inverted veer/zone read play. Right now the QB's choices are to keep or to give. I'm saying there should be a third, which is a keep/give/screen to the outside. The reason why we are seeing so many guys in the box and so many guys in the backfield is because we are not constraining the defense (specifically CBs and OLBs) with these simple packaged plays.
To effectively run a spread-option offense, it is imperative to retain the numbers advantage the scheme affords you, provided you have a QB who is an adequate runner. By not threatening the quick-hitting outside throws, we allow CBs and OLBs to blitz us in both running and passing downs.
Concluding, the reason why their run blitz was good is because we allowed it to be. If you go back and look at the play, there was no correct read; denard giving or keeping would have resulted in the play being blown up regardless. And the hypothetical throw that he would have made would have been the wide open screen to the outside, clearly resulting in a first down. Bubble screen should not be thought of as pass plays. They are effectively quick-hitting run plays on the perimeter of the defense.
|3 years 3 days ago||First of all, I am not the||
First of all, I am not the one calling people idiots, which seems highly disrespectful. I suppose it's the Internet and all pretense of decency is lost, but I hope you don't say such things to acquaintences in the real world. At least I can take some solace in the fact that, based on your posting history, you tend to call a lot of people idiots/morons/etc. simply because they disagree with your opinions, which are always cogent and expressed in a respectful and coherent fashion.
Second, the OP asked people their thoughts on the game and I simply offered an analysis of the worst play of the game for us. I think that's fair game, particularly since I expressed this in a perfectly reasonable and respectful fashion.
Finally, if you want to offer an actual counter-argument to the one I made about how poor play design led directly to a turnover, I'm ready to listen. Maybe I've been around this blog too long. It used to be that respectfully presented arguments about scheme were treated with actual discussion, as opposed to name calling and an outright refusal to acknowledge that people can respectfully disagree.
The most entertaining part of this little exchange is that you're making a parody of yourself and don't even realize.
|3 years 3 days ago||You're right. I suppose I||
You're right. I suppose I (along with the proprietor of this blog) am an idiot for arguing that a "buble screem" should be incorporated into what amounts to an attempt at running a spread option offense with a former all american at quarterback.
|3 years 3 days ago||Unless you demonstrate that||
Unless you demonstrate that it is a base play of your offense, in which case they would have to respect it every single down. Respecting it every down means you don't have unblocked defenders run blitzing and blowing up plays in the backfield. It'd also mean more production from Fitz.
|3 years 3 days ago||So you mean to tell me that||
So you mean to tell me that when there is an ublocked defender running directly at the mesh point, this is somehow the fault of the players? If you go back and look at the replay on this particular play, which it's obvious you didn't, you will observe three things: 1) the design of the play put denard in an impossible position because by the time he received the snap and was reading the play, there was a Purdue linebacker running directly at the mesh point, and who would have tackled whomever ended up holding on to the ball. 2) The designed unblocked defender was actually the defensive end and not the outside linebacker, so there were actually two unblocked defenders (one by design, the other by "RPS). It is impossible for the offense to win in this situation UNLESS there is a constraint play built in, hence the bubble screen. 3) The bubble screen was wide open and, had it been bult in to this play, would have resulted in a first down at worst.
So you can downvote me and reply with a plattitude, but there is no actual analysis contained in your "come on man" post.
|3 years 3 days ago||A major negative is the||
A major negative is the fumble that was caused by scheme and scheme only. We are still not requiring the defense to respect the possiblity of a bubble screen on every read-option play, so they can just blitz the OLB at the mesh point and have a low risk/high reward outcome.
Any sort of packaged play where the D is required to respect the receivers on the outside would both prevent this sort of blitizing and open up running lanes for Fitz. Yet we continue to do this.
|3 years 4 days ago||I'm also a Braves fan and I||
I'm also a Braves fan and I think the fans were also upset about the interference call from earlier. While that was probably the correct call, I think the larger takeaway from this whole thing is that the new playoff format is horrible for the game. Baseball is not supposed to be played one game at a time, and this latest debacle is one of many reasons why that is the case.
|3 years 4 days ago||I couldn't find a place to||
I couldn't find a place to put this in the whole Yeoman debate, but here it is:
This was an historically bad call for at least two reasons:
1) the rule calls that an infielder must be able to make the play in routine fashion (I believe the rule uses "ordinary" but it basically the same thing). When an infielder is that deep in the outfielder and there is a communication error, there is NOTHING routine about that play.
2) The infield fly should be called IMMEDIATELY. This is to allow the defense to play the ball appropriately and also to limit the bounds of the play; if it is unclear whether or not the infield fly rule is applicapble immediately after the ball is batted, then it is not supposed to be ruled as such. The fact that it is required to be declared immediately is designed as a check against such egregiously bad calls as this one.
And to add, I have been trained as an umpire and I played 2B and SS for a total of 14 years. That is not a routine play. The ball was batted into what is essentially no man's land. These are major league baseball players having trouble judging the location of the ball and trouble communicating who should field it.
|3 years 4 days ago||Dude, you can keep arguing||
I put this comment in the wrong place; relocated.
|3 years 6 days ago||Agreed. I don't understand||
Agreed. I don't understand what is so "epic" about a bunch of hillbillies singing a song. Is it because they all know the words?
There is a lot that is special about college football, but this isn't it.
|3 years 1 week ago||We don't know if he has the||
We don't know if he has the option to check to another play, let alone a play like a bubble or an immediate throw to the outside receiver. If there is no such check, then this whole argument is irellevant.
I have a hard time believing that Denard has the option to check into all of these plays that we see as being obvious and is just failing to do so. The reads are very basic.
|3 years 2 weeks ago||Please...no.||
|3 years 2 weeks ago||Did everyone miss the part||
Did everyone miss the part about how he CONSTANTLY had unblocked defenders bearing down on him!? It's impossible for any QB to succeed in that case.
For pete's sake, we were running play action out of formations that we NEVER actually run out of. Do you think that's going to fool anyone!? This is combined with no short outlet in the CERTAINTY of an unblocked man coming down full speed at Denard. Terrible, terrible, terrible play design.
|3 years 2 weeks ago||I think a lot of it had to do||
I think a lot of it had to do with the constraint-drive nature of RR's offense. Plays were often packaged where Denard could give, keep, or throw the bubble based on reads; these packaged plays don't seem to be in Borges' offense.
When you don't keep the defense honest by having constraints on plays, they can more easily "build a fence" because they don't have to worry about being "wrong" by the design of the play. This is why Brian has been harping on the bubble screen. We're using it now, but it doesn't appear to be a read that we're making on a down-by-down basis, which allows the defense to build a fence.
So basically this is an argument about offensive philosophy. RR's offense is designed to make the defense wrong on every play by packaged plays and constraints; Borges's offense doesn't do this. This is basically a "try to score every play" offense versus a "let's just do things that work and let us hang on to the ball." Both can be effective, but we don't have the personnel to run the philosophy this staff prefers, so it seems like we're stuck with an uncomfortable reality for the rest of this year and likely into 2014.