maybe i should have had greg howard write the brandon obit.
|1 hour 15 min ago||I've seen some disagreement||
I've seen some disagreement on where he should be ranked. I think initially people believed he would be a wide receiver, and he doesn't have the outstanding athleticism that you would want to see in a wideout. Then his body started to fill out, he played some safety, and now it seems like people are evaluating him more on defense. I think the tweener nature of his game might be limiting his rankings, but I think he's a solid prospect as a safety. I don't really see him as a dynamic playmaker, but he can get the job done.
|1 hour 29 min ago||Akingbulu is raw, but he's||
Akingbulu is raw, but he's about as good of an athlete as you can find on the offensive line. He's a true left tackle prospect.
|1 day 3 hours ago||OMG i had no idea||
OMG i had no idea
|1 day 4 hours ago||"VT sold out to stop the run||
"VT sold out to stop the run and get after a young QB and it worked well for them."
So Bud Foster put together a good game plan? Got it.
|1 day 4 hours ago||a) Well, nobody else was able||
a) Well, nobody else was able to shut down Ohio State the way Virginia Tech did, so there must be something at least slightly unique about it. You know that there are multiple ways to run a Bear, multiple ways to run a 4-3 Over, multiple ways to run a 3-3-5, etc.
b) Georgia Tech leads the country in rushing because he's a really good coach and not many people run the triple option. Yes, people know his playbook, but it's a unique offense. Lots of people run Bear defenses as part of their defensive packages.
|1 day 4 hours ago||"I see JT Barrett's||
"I see JT Barrett's inexperience as a much bigger factor than where the VT players stood before the ball snapped."
Each man is entitled to his opinion, but you're talking about a guy who was on his way to being in the Heisman discussion. He didn't seem too awfully inexperienced for the rest of the season, but magically, Virginia Tech made him look pretty bad. I think a lot of credit goes to Bud Foster.
|1 day 8 hours ago||a) There's rarely anything||
a) There's rarely anything "new" in football. Everyone steals ideas, concepts, etc. It's a matter of picking and choosing what works for your players and your coaching staff. Foster deserves credit for finding something that worked (whether it came from Ole Miss or Grand Valley State) and implementing it properly.
b) It's kind of silly to say "If they run the exact same thing next year, they won't do as well!" Well, of course not. If any competent coach knows the opposing team's playbook, that makes things quite a bit easier.
|1 day 8 hours ago||And why doesn't that go both||
And why doesn't that go both ways? Virginia Tech was only in their second game of the season. I don't know what their lineup looked like, but they presumably had young guys who were somewhat inexperienced out there. It's a pretty complex defensive scheme, yet they were able to pick it up and prepare for a national championship-caliber coach/team.
|1 day 8 hours ago||You mean 2-9 Kent State's||
You mean 2-9 Kent State's Bear defense didn't work against Ohio State?!?! Who'da thunk.
J.T. Barrett was still a redshirt freshman when he played Kent State the next week.
|1 day 8 hours ago||The two aren't mutually||
The two aren't mutually exclusive. Ohio State still only averaged 2.7 yards/carry, and Ezekiel Elliott had just 32 yards rushing. I don't know why it's difficult to believe that Bud Foster, who's a very good defensive coordinator, might have had something to do with it.
|1 day 15 hours ago||a) A fullback is not the same||
a) A fullback is not the same thing as a running back.
b) Reese has been told that he can start off as a linebacker.
|2 days 3 hours ago||College football and the NBA.||
College football and the NBA.
|2 days 5 hours ago||You can fault them for it||
You can fault them for it when they jump the gun and report it before he actually announces. They were trying to have the "exclusive" and beat the kid to the punch.
|2 days 5 hours ago||That may be but there are||
That may be but there are only 16 seniors scheduled to graduate, and we're at (or actually beyond) the 85-scholarship limit. So 9 more people need to leave before we hit that 25 number.
I'm not saying it won't happen, but it hasn't happened yet.
|2 days 7 hours ago||This class only has 16 spots||
This class only has 16 spots currently. Three running backs or about 20% of your class is strange.
|2 days 7 hours ago||Corley's being recruited by a||
Corley's being recruited by a lot of schools. I think it helps a bit but he could easily go out of state. Michigan seems to be moving up, though.
|2 days 7 hours ago||It makes more sense than||
It makes more sense than Michigan or Syracuse.
|2 days 11 hours ago||Here's an article on Tosh||
Here's an article on Tosh Lupoi, who is known as a great recruiter...and a very slimy recruiter.
|3 days 37 min ago||He's not a terrible actor,||
He's not a terrible actor, but he is kind of a poopface.
Sorry for the language.
|3 days 47 min ago||Yet another reason to dislike||
Yet another reason to dislike Jared Leto.
|3 days 1 hour ago||I haven't really heard||
I haven't really heard anything following his second visit to Michigan. He visited Notre Dame and then Georgia in the following weeks, so he has been all over the place. He might just have been too busy to talk much to the media.
|3 days 4 hours ago||I could be wrong, but I get||
I could be wrong, but I get the vibe that wide receivers, defensive backs, and linebackers often take a while to get serious about their recruitment and commit. Quarterbacks, linemen, tight ends, etc. often seem to get it over with earlier. I'm not saying that's a hard and fast rule, but the guys who carry out their recruitment until the All-American games, National Signing Day, etc. seem to be the skill guys (minus quarterbacks, who often commit early and recruit for their teams) more often than the linemen types.
|3 days 4 hours ago||I'm busy that day, but I'll||
I'm busy that day, but I'll wear a Speedo in your honor, anyway.
|3 days 5 hours ago||Yes, we do. Especially with||
Yes, we do. Especially with all four of our corners being upperclassmen (including Lyons). The guys behind them are very unproven, like Reon Dawson, Brandon Watson, Keith Washington, etc.
|3 days 5 hours ago||Already posted.||
|3 days 7 hours ago||You're not really missing||
You're not really missing anything with the overall numbers.
However, 3 of the last 4 picks have been in favor of Michigan...and the 1 pick for Syracuse in those 4 comes from an Ohio State site.
|3 days 7 hours ago||He was at Syracuse, then went||
He was at Syracuse, then went to the Buffalo Bills, then came back to Ann Arbor.
|3 days 8 hours ago||Bryan Cook is recruiting him||
Bryan Cook is recruiting him for Georgia Tech. Boo Bryan Cook! Boooooo!
|3 days 8 hours ago||Um, I think you're talking||
Um, I think you're talking about David Reese. And David Reese said that he wants to start out on defense but would be willing to help the team by playing fullback if necessary.
|3 days 8 hours ago||Not since Harbaugh was hired,||
Not since Harbaugh was hired, but he visited 4 times when Hoke was the coach.
|3 days 8 hours ago||I haven't heard any talk that||
I haven't heard any talk that Davis could be a linebacker. You may be thinking of Reese, who's a FB/LB.
|3 days 8 hours ago||I agree, but then this blog||
I agree, but then this blog probably isn't the place to hang out. I do not think Brian, Ace, or their other past writers (Tim Sullivan, TomVH, etc.) ever played football. I know Brian played hockey. I think Tim Sullivan was a cross country runner. I'm not sure about Seth.
|3 days 9 hours ago||Everyone has a fault. There||
Everyone has a fault. There aren't many former athletes who have the ability to write the way Brian does, or at least they don't take the time to do so. That's the choice you have to make as a written media consumer.
1. Do you want to read the words of nerds who have never played the sport?
|3 days 9 hours ago||(No subject)|
|3 days 10 hours ago||I agree. The nice thing about||
I agree. The nice thing about the board is that new comments bring the thread back to the top. If there are new comments on a front-page "Hello" post, you have to scroll down the page, go to page two, etc. to see if anyone has posted anything else.
Honestly, I think it would be best if every single front-page item also appeared on the board and followed the same procedure of bouncing to the top.
|3 days 11 hours ago||Is it just me, or does||
Is it just me, or does Harbaugh's poster about Exposure U use "insure" incorrectly? I think it should be "ensure."
|3 days 11 hours ago||That was the medical||
That was the medical terminology for John Wayne Bobbitt's surgery.
|3 days 11 hours ago||Yes. Soon.||
|3 days 12 hours ago||Home and home against the||
Home and home against the Seattle Seahawks.
|3 days 12 hours ago||I don't think there's room||
I don't think there's room for a third running back in this class, at least not at this point in time.
|4 days 4 hours ago||...especially now that Kate||
...especially now that Kate Upton pictures are kaput.
|4 days 7 hours ago||Something funky happened to||
Something funky happened to the list in the last hour or so. Swenson was not on the list originally. Also, as you can see in the OP, Matt Falcon was #246 earlier and now he's #243. They must have changed a few things, or it was an old list, or something.
|4 days 7 hours ago||That's a neat little factoid,||
That's a neat little factoid, but it really has nothing to do with college football. Rivals, Scout, 247, and ESPN specialize (or have arms that specialize) in following high school players to see how they project to college.
You might say the rankings are just for fun, but Alabama, Florida State, USC, and Ohio State (among others) disagree.
And by the way, the NFL has a way of rewarding teams who do everything well (offense, defense, special teams). The Seahawks and Patriots are good teams, but they're not filled with superstars at every position. If you look at the guys in the Pro Bowl - who are deemed the best individual players - many of them were highly rated coming out of high school.
This year's Pro Bowl included Andrew Luck, Dez Bryant, Matt Stafford, Odell Beckham, Golden Tate, Julio Jones, Nick Mangold, Maurkice Pouncey, Mario Williams, Ndamukong Suh, Sheldon Richardson, Von Miller, Joe Haden, Patrick Peterson, and probably more who were 4-star or 5-star guys to Rivals. Obviously, there are Pro Bowl guys who were 3-stars, 2-stars, etc., but there's ample evidence to show that you're wrong - highly ranked players are generally better than lower ranked players, especially when looking at their impact in college.
|4 days 9 hours ago||Yeah...I don't get that one||
Yeah...I don't get that one at all. I haven't been super impressed with Jackson, and he wasn't even Saline's full-time QB as a junior. He's pulling in some decent offers (got one from Utah not long ago), but he's not a better prospect than those other guys.
|4 days 9 hours ago||That's a tough question.||
That's a tough question. Obviously, there are guys who are 3-stars who end up being dynamic players in college and the NFL. So any tangible cut-off I give you is going to be wrong, simply based on the fact that it's a crap shoot.
Personally, I believe there are about 100 players each year who are truly elite prospects. I don't always agree with the rankings on who they are, but I do think things get muddled once you get past 100 or so.
Logically, I think that makes sense, too. That's about three rounds of NFL draft picks. Typically, I think fans get excited about guys drafted in the first three rounds as potential All-Pro guys, future stars, franchise guys, etc. But not many of us think of 4th rounders or 5th rounders as particulary exciting players, aside from the occasional Denard Robinson.
|4 days 9 hours ago||I do think there is a||
I do think there is a tendency to bump up the ratings of the kids who are playing in the respective all-star games. I think Rivals used to do it with the Army All-American Bowl. I think ESPN did it with the Under Armour game.
More to your question, though, there have been studies done about the accuracy of the recruiting rankings. I'm not sure how 247 fits in because they're relatively new, but the best ratings sites (in order) are Rivals, Scout, and then ESPN, based on their college success and NFL draft position.
|4 days 9 hours ago||He's significantly higher on||
He's significantly higher on all the other sites, IIRC.
I think ESPN is the least reliable recruiting site, so take his ranking with a bit of a grain of salt.
|4 days 9 hours ago||Sorry, but his speed just||
Sorry, but his speed just isn't all that impressive. He's not slow, but he's not a blazer (like I said above). And he also looks a little bit lost on the football field sometimes. He looks like a part-time football player. Very good athlete, could be a very good football player, but he's got some work to do if he sticks with football.
|4 days 9 hours ago||The recruiting coordinators||
The recruiting coordinators are generally responsible for identifying which film(s) to hand up to the coaches. So Chris Partridge, Chris Singletary, etc. are the main men for that. That's why there was some talk when the new staff was hired about whether the recruiting coordinator(s) had the necessary skills to do their jobs.
Otherwise, there is at least one employee who keeps an eye on the recruiting sites to identify potential sleepers, what prospects show interest in Michigan, etc.
The coaches do camps, and they also listen to coaches they trust. They also visit schools and straight-up ask "Do you have anyone you think could play at our level?"
After all that is done, the position coaches look at film of players. If it's someone they want, the head coach has to sign off on extending an offer.
|4 days 9 hours ago||The Real Sports interview was||
The Real Sports interview was with Andrea Kremer, not Lesley Visser.
|4 days 11 hours ago||He's a good football||
He's a good football prospect, not a great one, IMO. He's a pretty large body for a WR and can go up and get the ball, but he's not blazing fast.
|4 days 11 hours ago||I don't really buy that||
I don't really buy that excuse about technique. It's easier to learn good technique when you're young because you don't have bad habits to break. But some of the things he does (regarding footwork) really have nothing to do with coordination. I mean, if you're supposed to step with your left foot and you step with your right, that's not really a coordination thing - that's just not doing what you're supposed to do.
As far as staying low, I think some guys have it and some guys don't. I think it's very difficult to teach someone who plays high to suddenly play low. You can have some impact there, but a guy who stands straight up is never going to be a Taylor Lewan, in my opinion, who had great body lean in the run game.
|4 days 13 hours ago||I'm sure offers are a big||
I'm sure offers are a big part, but he also "looks like" a college lineman. If I saw him walking down the street, I would know he's a football player even if I didn't recognize him.
|4 days 14 hours ago||I have heard of no red flags||
I have heard of no red flags in regard to Davis when it comes to character. However, since I know he's not being coached to do some of the things he does (in regard to footwork, technique, etc.), I think that's a bit of a cause for concern.
|4 days 15 hours ago||According to DeWeaver,||
According to DeWeaver, Harbaugh still wanted him but said he would continue recruiting other quarterbacks.
|4 days 16 hours ago||There was interest during the||
There was interest during the Borges era, but DeWeaver wasn't offered until Nussmeier was in town.
|5 days 45 min ago||It's not an insult to the||
It's not an insult to the kid. You can plug in any name, height, genealogy, etc. It doesn't matter who it is.
The fact is that the kid has not played much, has 1 catch to his name, and has no highlights to speak of.
This is literally something I have NEVER seen before. I have never seen the University of Michigan offer a kid with less (publicly available) playing experience than Carter Dunaway. I have kept offer boards and tracked THOUSANDS of recruits over the past several years, and I have not even once seen something like this where a borderline JV/varsity player gets offered, let alone commits.
This is not the norm, so I don't see why people are surprised that it has people scratching their heads. For all I know, Carter Dunaway might be the next Jimmy Graham. He could also be the next Jordan Paskorz. Jim Harbaugh knows more than any of us do. But that doesn't change the fact that it's a strange occurrence.
|5 days 51 min ago||"This is like me saying "I'm||
"This is like me saying "I'm not insulting you, JDavis, I'm just telling my sister she shouldn't date anyone like you because she can do way better." I'm only critiquing my sister, right?"
Well, you know, if JDavis was the first guy your sister ever dated, then I think it's only fair to see what else is out there in the world. So again, I don't think it's really an insult to JDavis. It's simply that your sister doesn't know him that well and might want to ask around before she lets JDavis come over to her apartment.
|5 days 56 min ago||I was in a hospital gift||
I was in a hospital gift store recently, and the lady ahead of me bought me a pack of M&M's for patiently waiting while her mother took a long time getting things together at the cash register.
|5 days 59 min ago||So far we've seen Harbaugh||
So far we've seen Harbaugh have success at the high levels with a) an All-American, prototypical pocket passer in Andrew Luck and b) a next generation talent in Colin Kaepernick, a strong-armed kid who can run. Obviously, Peters fits the mold of the former. Messiah DeWeaver doesn't really fit in either category.
|5 days 11 hours ago||Larry Page is taking over the||
Larry Page is taking over the world!
|5 days 12 hours ago||I agree. There's nothing||
I agree. There's nothing unethical about it. I don't see a reason why Michigan's School of Engineering couldn't go to the middle of Kentucky or Oklahoma or Alabama to recruit kids for their engineering program. It's kind of like a job fair.
But yes, if every team starts doing it, then you have camps camps camps. Quite frankly, there are too many camps already where kids are spending time and money trying to get noticed. People talk about the pull of being a "student" athlete in college and how it affects academics, but I don't see people saying much about all these Rivals camps, ESPN camps, etc. that have kids traveling all over the place.
At the same time, having a "50-mile rule" is somewhat arbitrary. So Alabama can't reach kids who are 100 miles away from them within the state or region? That does seem silly.
Either way, the rules should be uniform for the entire country.
|6 days 50 min ago||If he camped at Michigan, it||
If he camped at Michigan, it would have been in front of Brady Hoke, Dan Ferrigno, etc., who no longer work here. My guess is that linebackers coach and defensive coordinator Greg Mattison was not paying a ton of attention to a rising sophomore tight end at camp last June, but maybe I'm wrong.
|6 days 1 hour ago||Personally, I see any||
Personally, I see any critique of Michigan's offer to Dunaway as a criticism of the coaches more than Dunaway himself. There are tens of thousands of football players in each class who never get offers from big-time schools, so saying "Michigan should hold off on offering him until he plays" is not really an insult.
I didn't see a lot of people hating on Dunaway. They were criticizing the decision to offer him, which is a different thing, IMO.
|6 days 2 hours ago||Are we agreeing that it's||
Are we agreeing that it's HIGHLY unlikely that any big, threatening program was going to offer him sometime soon?
If we are, then I can move on to the next point...
I think if you REALLY like him, you go ahead and offer him. Ultimately, if you think he's the best guy (or one of the two or three best guys) and you want him on your team no matter what, then you go ahead and offer him. That just makes sense. If Charlotte McKinney has an undying love for you, you don't wait just because you can - you lock her down immediately.
That being said, I have a hard time believing that a kid at Bloomfield Hills Brother Rice who couldn't beat out Michael Roney and Brian Fortin is a better prospect than Brock Wright, Leonard Warner, etc., who are some other elite tight end prospects in the 2017 class. If Dunaway were that good, he would have forced himself onto the field somewhere - at tight end, wide receiver, defensive end, etc. Brother Rice is a good program in the state, a state championship-caliber team, but they do not field the same kind of athletes that you find in Florida, Texas, California, etc.
|6 days 5 hours ago||Appalachian State?||
|6 days 6 hours ago||I'm surprised I'm the||
I'm surprised I'm the optimistic voice here, but Dontavious Jackson loved his visit to Michigan a couple weeks ago. He and Chris Brown paid their own way to Ann Arbor. I'm not saying an announcement would absolutely be Michigan, but I would bet Michigan's in his top group and has a chance at getting his commitment, regardless of whether there are any Crystall Balls for him or not.
|6 days 9 hours ago||My guess is that their||
My guess is that their motivation is that they like him as a football player. Like you said somewhere above, "If you like him, take him" or something like that. Not having seen him in any football setting myself, I have to believe they like what they've seen from him personally, trust his coaches, etc.
But again, it's almost completely unfounded to expect that this kid would have lots of offers and be committed elsewhere anytime soon. Not only would he have had to hit the camp circuit this summer, but nobody would have any game film on him until a few games into this fall.
The way things usually work for someone like him is that he gets offered by Buffalo or Central Michigan. Then along comes Cincinnati or Indiana or Northwestern. And then the big boys start coming in. We wouldn't have been battling Alabama, Texas, and USC, at least not at the start. If the coaches had a strong desire to get him, they could have waited to see if EMU, WMU, Ball State, etc. offered...and if they didn't, Michigan could have waited longer. You and I both know that virtually no kid ever sticks with a MAC commitment when Michigan (or a similar program) comes calling.
|6 days 11 hours ago||"Because a year from now he||
"Because a year from now he might be a commit to another school."
I think that's kind of a hogwash reason. Even if he were committed to another school, he would probably seriously consider flipping. And the truth is that it's very likely no noteworthy school would have stepped forward with an offer without some significant game film and experience. Sure, Eastern Michigan and Ball State might have offered, but Alabama, USC, Ohio State, etc. wouldn't have.
They didn't offer him so they could beat other schools to the punch. There are various other reasons to offer him, but not that one.
|6 days 12 hours ago||I'm not endorsing flyers. I'm||
I'm not endorsing flyers. I'm not endorsing Dunaway. I'm also not against taking him, either. I essentially have zero information to go on other than what we all know, which is that he's big, a sophomore, and didn't play much this past year.
I'm simply acknowledging that a) the 2017 class is going to be large and will undoubtedly include some lower rated guys and b) saying "other programs are taking 4- and 5-star recruits" is misleading when it's also true that other programs don't have any recruits committed at all.
|1 week 1 hour ago||Here are some other top||
Here are some other top programs around the country and who they have committed for 2017:
Obviously, there are some schools with one or a few good commits (Ohio State, Alabama, Florida State, etc.), but every class is bound to have some highly rated guys and some low-ranked guys. Add to that the fact that Michigan's 2017 class is going to be 26 players strong - or more - and we're bound to take some flyers on a few guys.
|1 week 9 hours ago||This doesn't entirely counter||
This doesn't entirely counter your point, but the 247 Composite rankings have Kraemer #1 and Eichenberg #7 in the state.
In between those two are RB DeMario McCall (OSU), RB George Hill (OSU), TE Jake Hausmann (OSU), DE Prince Sammons, and LB Brendan Ferns.
|1 week 9 hours ago||Michigan is recruiting him||
Michigan is recruiting him for interior offensive line. He could play DT at some places, but that's not where Michigan wants him. And Michael Jordan is an offensive lineman all the way. AFAIK, there has been no talk of him playing defense.
|1 week 11 hours ago||My guess is around four, but||
My guess is around four, but that number could go up if there's further attrition.
|1 week 11 hours ago||I think it was just a joke||
I think it was just a joke based on the fact that mom is wearing two different types of footwear.
One is a sandal, and the other looks like some sort of walking boot.
I don't think any disrespect was intended. Just an observational joke.
|1 week 11 hours ago||Yeah... ...so... ...never||
...never mind. I didn't see TomVH's correction.
|1 week 11 hours ago||FWIW, Washington, D.C.||
FWIW, Washington, D.C. offensive guard Richard Merritt was also wearing Michigan shorts at the camp this weekend.
|1 week 11 hours ago||We're still looking pretty||
We're still looking pretty strong for Bredeson, although we're definitely not a lock.
|1 week 13 hours ago||WOTS is that he just||
WOTS is that he just contacted the agent for Jason White.
|1 week 14 hours ago||In the past, I have found||
In the past, I have found that Boone has an ax to grind against Michigan. If Harbaugh were working for the Jacksonville Jaguars or the Oklahoma Sooners right now, I don't know that Boone would be saying these types of things.
|1 week 2 days ago||Two Michigan offerees||
Two Michigan offerees committed to Ohio State today at their spring game:
2016 center Jack Wohlabaugh
|1 week 3 days ago||It would take a *lot* of body||
It would take a *lot* of body development for him to become the size of a tackle...
|1 week 3 days ago||Yeesh, I hate AAU basketball||
Yeesh, I hate AAU basketball highlights. That first video is just a parade of lazy, crappy, uninspired defense.
|1 week 4 days ago||Ambry Thomas was offered by||
Ambry Thomas was offered by Michigan on Thursday, so now all the in-state guys on the list have offers.
|1 week 4 days ago||highlights|
|1 week 5 days ago||I think that ended in the||
I think that ended in the days of Henson and Pearson.
|1 week 5 days ago||Maybe he just wanted to be||
Maybe he just wanted to be coached by a competent offensive coordinator.
|1 week 5 days ago||There was an article in||
There was an article in Sports Illustrated not long ago about a Wilt Chamberlin kid. He's not 7' feet tall or any kind of athlete.
|1 week 5 days ago||Well, Singleton is #135 and||
Well, Singleton is #135 and Bolds is #178 in the initial 247 Sports ranking, so those are some pretty high rankings. I don't really buy that those offers were made just because of their Paramus Catholic connection.
|1 week 5 days ago||Ummmm...yeah, I'm sure it's||
Ummmm...yeah, I'm sure it's athletically related. Donnie Corley went from Wyandotte to Detroit King. Martell Pettaway and Kyonta Stallworth went from St. Clair Shores to Detroit King. Lavert Hill went from Cass Tech to King, which seems like a lateral move at best. Those guys are all 3- or 4-star kids who transferred in the span of about a year.
Something is going on there. The only one that doesn't seem questionable is Lavert Hill.
|1 week 5 days ago||I probably wouldn't have||
I probably wouldn't have clicked on this thread if you hadn't hinted that he was playing QB on offense. It would be nice to see a more accurate thread title.
|1 week 5 days ago||Aside from Khalid Kareem in||
Aside from Khalid Kareem in 2016, there's not a ton of talent for a couple years, as far as I know. The next biggest recruit will probably be a wide receiver/safety/linebacker prospect named Ovie Oghoufo in the 2018 class.
|1 week 5 days ago||...and King. They've got a||
...and King. They've got a ton of good prospects these days, too.
|1 week 5 days ago||Yeah, the spring evaluation||
Yeah, the spring evaluation period has begun, so there is probably going to be a flurry of new offers to go along with these two Paramus Catholic kids.
|1 week 5 days ago||It's possible, but like||
It's possible, but like WolvinLA2 says, the Ohio State/Mike Weber thing might make any Technicians think twice about going to Columbus. I'm not saying we'll get him, but I think we have a good shot.
|1 week 5 days ago||Denton is only about 45||
Denton is only about 45 minutes from Dallas.
|1 week 5 days ago||I agree. He looks like a||
I agree. He looks like a safety to me, but one who's still a little light. Once he fills out, I think he's going to be an in-the-box safety or slot guy.
|1 week 5 days ago||You have no idea.||
You have no idea.
|1 week 5 days ago||You just did. Banhammer time!||
You just did.
|1 week 5 days ago||Reverse Cow, you mean? I||
Reverse Cow, you mean? I don't know what "girl" has to do with it...
|1 week 5 days ago||Just right, I think. His film||
Just right, I think. His film isn't exremely impressive.
|1 week 5 days ago||My bad. It won't happen||
My bad. It won't happen again.
|1 week 6 days ago||I'll play along||
According to the 247 Composite rankings, he's closer to a 3-star than a 5-star.
|1 week 6 days ago||The children of Shawn Kemp,||
The children of Shawn Kemp, Travis Henry, and Antonio Cromartie could probably fill out a pretty good college football roster. That's assuming five of Kemp's kids get the Fat Kemp gene and not the Ripped Kemp gene so you could throw together an offensive line.
|1 week 6 days ago||I don't remember how many||
I don't remember how many there were, but I have noticed over the past few cycles (since I type up these lists often) that skill players are ranked abnormally high, especially wide receivers. That might be partly because of the way the game is played today with spread offenses, lots of receivers, etc., but it can get ridiculous at times. Especially with these early lists, it seems like 1/3 or 1/4 of the guys in the top 50 are receivers...but good luck finding any centers, guards, or inside linebackers.
|1 week 6 days ago||Wide receivers always start||
Wide receivers always start high.
|1 week 6 days ago||I think he's on the radar; he||
I think he's on the radar; he just hasn't been offered yet. He's listed at 5'11", 165 lbs., but I doubt he's that tall and he's still very light. I think it sort of depends on what Michigan wants/needs at the corner position, but I would not be surprised if he gets offered soon. It's probably only a matter of time.
|1 week 6 days ago||I think we have good shots||
I think we have good shots with all of the guys we have offered. Michigan went ahead and offered them early. Kelly-Powell grew up a Michigan fan, and Josh Ross's brother already plays here. Peoples-Jones's dad went to Michigan, too, but he's a big-time recruit who could go anywhere, so I'm not sure about him. I also think JaRaymond Hall is likely to end up at Michigan, but he's a little newer to the recruiting scene.
Ambry Thomas is a speedy kid from Detroit King. He's a little on the small side but might be the fastest football player in the state. I'm interested to see if Michigan will go after him or not.
|1 week 6 days ago||That's not really the whole||
That's not really the whole story. The "rankings" (which is the term I used initially) tell us that Matt Falcon is closer to a 3-star than a 5-star.
Out of the term "rankings," somehow it devolved into an argument about Scout alone, which is silly because there are four recruiting services and even a handy 247 Composite ranking.
I don't really even know why I'm discussing it, because it probably seems like I'm down on Falcon, which I'm not. I actually rated him pretty high. But it's frustrating how words get twisted and massaged.
Personally, I think it's dumb to call anyone a 5-star recruit unless it's a consensus thing (all four sites agree) or unless the 247 Composite tells us so (all four sites' average). I mean, I don't think of Shane Morris as a 5-star recruit just because Scout told us so; Rivals, ESPN, and 247 Sports all had him as a 4-star guy. When referring to recruiting, the more data points, the better. In Morris's case, as an example, Scout seems to have been even further off than Rivals, ESPN, and 247.
|1 week 6 days ago||His current ranking is||
His current ranking is reflective of whatever the various sites think of him. I mean, I can't really tell you what the various scouts who have seen him think of his talents. Personally, I ranked him highly, I think he's the #3 player in the state, I like him, etc. But I have no say in the star rankings.
Yes, he could make a large jump. But that's not really the issue here. The discussion is about whether he's closer to a 5-star or a 3-star. And the FACT is that is only the case on Scout, while he's closer to a 3-star according to ESPN, Rivals, and 247 Sports.
|1 week 6 days ago||Yes...and 5-star status would||
Yes...and 5-star status would be an outlier, too. It doesn't change the fact that he's ranked #234 in the Composite.
|1 week 6 days ago||You're talking in circles.||
You're talking in circles. I'm done.
|1 week 6 days ago||Ugh. Yes...he's 100 spots||
Ugh. Yes...he's 100 spots away on one site. I guess it doesn't matter that a) Rivals is better at rankings and b) three of the four sites disagree. Are you Allen Trieu's brother or something?
|1 week 6 days ago||Also, you responded to a post||
Also, you responded to a post that said he's closer to a 3-star than a 5-star with a snide "According to who?" I don't see why someone stating a fact would be interpreted as personal opinion.
|1 week 6 days ago||I brought up ESPN because||
I brought up ESPN because he's a 3-star there. He's not a 5-star anywhere, and he's still 100 spots away on the most optimistic service.
|1 week 6 days ago||I'm not taking your word for||
I'm not taking your word for it. I'm taking the word of the 247 Composite rankings, which say that he's closer (mathematically) to 3-star status than 5-star status.
Composite rankings are probably more accurate than Scout. And if we're talking about using an individual site, Rivals has a better history of ranking players, and they also believe he's closer to 3-star status than 5-star status (he's a 4-star outside the Rivals 250, and he's the #13 running back, while the #16 running back is a 3-star).
|1 week 6 days ago||Yes and no. I figured he||
Yes and no. I figured he would have by now, but his dad said that he wants to be 100% sure about the decision to flip because he wants any decision to be final. Considering he has 10 months to decide, I think it's a good idea to be certain before he rushes into anything.
|1 week 6 days ago||According to the rankings.||
According to the rankings. In fact, he's a 3-star to ESPN.
|1 week 6 days ago||Yeah. He's currently #234 in||
Yeah. He's currently #234 in the 247 Composite rankings.
|1 week 6 days ago||that's photoshopped. the original:||
|1 week 6 days ago||It's kill or be killed in||
It's kill or be killed in there.
Trust me, I know.
I watched that episode of "Sons of Anarchy" where that s*** went down with Bertier.
It turned out his left side wasn't his strong side.
|1 week 6 days ago||I also happen to think 2017||
I also happen to think 2017 is going to be a very strong in-state class. So that might help if Harbaugh can reel in several of these guys.
|2 weeks 52 min ago||I'm not a huge fan of this||
I'm not a huge fan of this "In Big Ten play..." thing because games aren't played only against the Big Ten. They're played against Utah, Notre Dame, BYU, Oregon State, Appalachian State, etc. The yards and wins against the Big Ten or non-conference opponents - unless you make the conference championship game - count the same either way.
I don't think anybody's making the argument that we looked good last season or against the Big Ten last season. The team went 5-7, missed a bowl game, and generally looked bad offensively. We can massage statistics in various ways, but unless we're massaging everyone's statistics, the truth is that Michigan was so-so. That's what "64th in the country" means and that's what "8th out of 14" means and that's what a 5-7 record means.
|2 weeks 51 min ago||I think you forgot a "g."||
I think you forgot a "g."
|2 weeks 1 hour ago||I have heard nothing but||
I have heard nothing but rumors. There are no strong signals like there have been with the other three grad transfers (Lyons, Rudock, O'Neill).
|2 weeks 1 hour ago||That's why I'm looking||
That's why I'm looking forward to the 2018 class and a kid named Daeshaun Woodson-Wheatley.
|2 weeks 1 hour ago||Shots fired!||
|2 weeks 4 hours ago||He looks like a strong safety||
He looks like a strong safety to me. He's listed at 6'0", 183 lbs., but that's highly questionable unless he really grew and packed on some weight since the end of the season. Even so, he looks like he's going to be a pretty thick kid and I don't know if he has the coverage skills to play corner at a big-time level.
|2 weeks 4 hours ago||It only happens when the||
It only happens when the other team scores more points. #mathed
|2 weeks 5 hours ago||Yep. And Kid Rock boinked all||
Yep. And Kid Rock boinked all of them.
|2 weeks 5 hours ago||Not from me. Neg!||
Not from me. Neg!
|2 weeks 5 hours ago||I think you're talking about||
I think you're talking about Je'Vari Anderson.
But I have not heard anything new about him. I think the SAT scores just came back last week, so it's past the April 1 date to sign a NLI. So that's a bit of a hoop to jump through.
|2 weeks 5 hours ago||Yeah, it's still very early||
Yeah, it's still very early for 2017 kids. They don't sign their NLI for almost two years. If he has offers from Michigan and Northwestern, surely several more are on their way.
|2 weeks 7 hours ago||At the risk of dredging up an||
At the risk of dredging up an argument from five years ago, the stats suggest your interpretation of their "skill set" might not be so meaningful.
Green averaged 5.74 yards/carry last season until he got hurt.
Smith averaged 4.81 yards/carry.
If the guy with worse vision and balance gains almost 1 yard more per carry, I'm okay with that.
|2 weeks 7 hours ago||He can move pretty well if||
He can move pretty well if the offensive line can create some holes for him. I don't think he's Carlos Brown fast, but he's got pretty good speed for being a 225-235 lb. back.
As for trucking guys coming downhill, we'll just have to see. He still hasn't had a lot of opportunities, but the ability is there.
|2 weeks 9 hours ago||IIRC, those plays were early||
IIRC, those plays were early in the season when the running game was kind of a crap shoot, partly because of the OL and partly because of the running backs.
I also think people overreact to that type of thing because we UFR these games, thousands of people see it, and then we remember "OMG how could he miss that hole?!?!?!?! It's so wide open that I can even see it on my laptop 72 hours later in slow-mo!!!!1"
In reality, running backs miss holes all the time. This is not something specific to Green, Smith, etc. And I can tell you as a coach, we don't sit here and bemoan a missed hole 7 months after it happens. Just like quarterbacks miss open receivers, don't see defenders jumping routes, miss seeing the blitz coming off the edge, etc., running backs miss holes and do other bad things sometimes.
|2 weeks 10 hours ago||"To an extent, the RB makes||
"To an extent, the RB makes the OL."
You've got it turned around. The OL makes the RB. Drake Johnson was finding holes because the offensive line was coming together in the second half of the season.
|2 weeks 11 hours ago||The defensive ends weren't||
The defensive ends weren't the ones making the plays. The guys fouling things up were the defensive tackles and inside linebackers.
We're not going to be a sweep/outside zone team. We're going to run between the tackles with power, inside zone, etc. The fact is that the inside linebackers and defensive tackles were pretty good on both squads (with the exception of Dan Liesman), and they spent the whole day in the backfield.
|2 weeks 11 hours ago||Well, he was a guard to start||
Well, he was a guard to start high school, so that might tell you something...
He's not a great natural runner. I think we've known that for a long time. He's big and fast and can truck guys coming downhill, but if you hit him from the side or can trip him up, he doesn't have great balance.
|2 weeks 11 hours ago||I'm not sure about the||
I'm not sure about the validity of this, but somebody said that Baumgardner got a bad taste in his mouth about the program when Hoke told one of his non-answer "fibs" about something. Ever since then, Baumgardner has seemingly had it out for Hoke and the program in general.
Again, that's what somebody else said, but I don't know what Hoke/Baumgardner interaction it was in reference to.
|2 weeks 11 hours ago||Everyone does. They're not||
Everyone does. They're not that easy to find.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Marcus Ray says a lot of||
Marcus Ray says a lot of things...
|2 weeks 4 days ago||We offered Finley very late||
We offered Finley very late in the process.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I think Falcon would be||
I think Falcon would be ranked higher by some of the services if not for his injury history.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Thanks!||
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I guess you have to hand it||
I guess you have to hand it to the guy (Jeff Corrion, I assume)...he's not lacking enthusiasm.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||If I'm looking for a Michigan||
If I'm looking for a Michigan comparison, maybe Chris Perry.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I would be happy if that were||
I would be happy if that were true, but I think it's an in-stater. I also think Jackson is back in Texas, not on Michigan's campus.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||My first guess is Michael||
My first guess is Michael Onwenu.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I think he's pretty darn||
I think he's pretty darn impressive if he can stay healthy. He's 6'1", 215 lbs. with a little shake, some power, and perhaps better speed than any other RB on the roster.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I have heard elsewhere that||
I have heard elsewhere that there is not a ton of mutual interest between Hill and Michigan. And as others have mentioned here, Hayes seems dead set on getting out of the midwest.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||That would be surprising.||
That would be surprising. Harbaugh's staff hasn't been in much contact with Lukusa.
|3 weeks 7 hours ago||Unless he redshirts this||
Unless he redshirts this year, he will be gone. He's a true senior in 2015.
|3 weeks 7 hours ago||re: David Reese||
It's not often that fullbacks have great offer lists. If they were that great of athletes, they would be recruited at other positions.
|3 weeks 7 hours ago||I think Akinribade could be a||
I think Akinribade could be a speed guy. He's not Carlos Brown, but I think that would be a good one-two punch. The truth is that we're not recruiting a ton of speed demons in this class, for whatever reason. Harbaugh is pretty much continuing the trend of bringing in/recruiting big-bodied running backs like Brady Hoke did.
|3 weeks 7 hours ago||Davis was offered as a||
Davis was offered as a tailback.
|3 weeks 7 hours ago||Awkwardness aside, Davis is a||
Awkwardness aside, Davis is a kid who looks the part of a big-time football player. He obviously either spends a lot of time in the weight room...or has some of Bo Jackson's genes where he's ripped without working out.
|3 weeks 7 hours ago||I don't really see the||
I don't really see the Derrick Green comparison, other than that they're both big backs. I think Green is faster but less sturdy, while Davis is like De'Veon Smith (but faster!).
Prattville is a pretty big school that plays against some good talent. We're also recruiting some kids who played against Prattville, who won a state championship this past season. It's not necessarily the best talent in the country, but if you can hack it with Prattville's schedule, you're in pretty good shape.
FWIW, the competition in Davis's highlights is better than that of either Smith/Green coming out of high school.
|3 weeks 7 hours ago||A 3-star that goes to Blue||
A 3-star that goes to Blue Mountain State is a 2-star.
|3 weeks 7 hours ago||Davis has specifically said||
Davis has specifically said that he does not want to play fullback in college. He sees himself as a tailback. If Michigan recruited him as a FB, I don't think he would have even visited.
|3 weeks 7 hours ago||Here's my commitment post for||
Here's my commitment post for Kingston Davis:
|3 weeks 7 hours ago||Like...Gunner Kiel?||
|3 weeks 7 hours ago||Auburn is probably going to||
Auburn is probably going to get Elijah Holyfield in the near future.
|3 weeks 7 hours ago||I really, really, really||
I really, really, really doubt he can run a 100m faster than 11 seconds.
|3 weeks 7 hours ago||As others have mentioned,||
As others have mentioned, Nordin has already been offered by Michigan, and he can punt. He's a better regarded kicker than Andrew David, too. The feeling right now is that Nordin will commit to Michigan, which is fine with me. It doesn't sound like Kenny Allen has been very consistent with his punting, so I think we should be considering guys to punt, anyway.
|3 weeks 13 hours ago||"Calipari just throws the||
"Calipari just throws the ball out and hopes."
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Flopping, moving screens,||
Flopping, moving screens, etc. are a part of basketball. It's the referees' job to call Kaminsky for the moving screens, not call the flops, etc.
That's like saying it's unsportsmanlike for a defensive back to try to sell an interception, for a centerfielder to hold up a ball that he trapped like he caught it on the fly, and so on.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||So you're saying we should||
So you're saying we should thank Dave Brandon for this?
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Not that it really matters -||
Not that it really matters - because it's still wrong - but I don't think Michigan University is quite as bad as the University of Ohio State. I think people generally refer to Ohio State as "OSU" more often than people refer to Michigan as "U of M" or "U-M" simply because there are so many universities starting with "M", such as Miami (YTM), Miami (NTM), Minnesota, Mississippi, Michigan, Maine, Massachusetts, Missouri, Montana, Maryland, etc.
Meanwhile, "OSU" means Ohio State in the midwest/northeast, Oklahoma State in the Great Plains, and Oregon State in the Pacific northwest.
Again, still wrong and kind of embarrassing. But maybe it's only a 8/10 while all the guys committing to Ohio to do it are 9/10.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||"what he said was just||
"what he said was just meaningless hot air."
No. What it meant was that Michigan was his leader. What it did not mean is that Michigan had an insurmountable lead. Georgia surmounted the lead.
If you're in a relationship, you might say to someone "I'll love you forever." Lots of people who say that end up - surprise, surprise - breaking up and ending up with someone else. It's not that it was meaningless. It's just that things worked out differently than expected.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||That's dumb. There are other||
There are other coaches out there who are also extremely intense, and some of them are giant dicks, too. Harbaugh has a more dynamic personality than the likes of Dantonio, Saban, Meyer, etc.
Here are the main reasons Michigan doesn't have any additional commits for 2016:
1. We haven't won many games in recent years.
2. Jim Harbaugh got a late start in recruiting.
3. Harbaugh is recruiting lots and lots of Florida, Texas, and California guys who naturally aren't going to commit until they get a chance to see campus.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||As of now, there are no||
As of now, there are no reports of an offer to Butler.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||I mean, when a kid says||
I mean, when a kid says "Michigan is my leader," I don't think there's any shame in believing that Michigan is his leader. That's not being gullible.
I don't think anyone in this thread is extremely surprised that he committed elsewhere. It's just a simple fact that he named Michigan as his leader, and shortly thereafter, he committed to Georgia. I think most of us are used to this kind of thing by now.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||When Michigan was closer to||
When Michigan was closer to the successful Lloyd Carr days, Brady Hoke didn't get his first commit of his first full class (2012) until April 12, 2011.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||My count is 182 offered||
My count is 182 offered prospects for 2016.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Yes.||
|3 weeks 4 days ago||What high school coach is||
What high school coach is involved? I must have missed that.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Well, hopefully we're able to||
Well, hopefully we're able to play a backup during some garbage time this year to get him some more experience.
But even so, we'll be in a better situation next year. Rudock might be gone, but we'll have more options (O'Korn will be eligible, plus a 2016 kid or two), all the guys will have a full year in the system, and all the guys will be a year older overall.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Here was the #2 hit when I||
Here was the #2 hit when I googled it:
I have read several that reach the same conclusion, some of which are more recent. But the gist is the same.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||The vibe I got from Drevno's||
The vibe I got from Drevno's interview the other day is that he took a look at Mason Cole playing center, got him some experience there, and kicked him back outside.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||It is sort of||
It is sort of counterintuitive, but if you have one-on-one matchups you can win on the outside, then it makes sense. If you put three backs in the backfield, the defense will usually put 8 or 9 guys in the box to stop the run. Then you have a lot of options with what you can do on the outsde in one-on-one coverage.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||"Yes, there are deans and||
"Yes, there are deans and professors and what not, but football programs have position coaches, coordinators, head coaches, ADs, academic tutors, etc., so should the NCAA not get involved with regulating football programs, perhaps in regard to allotted practice time?"
So...the National Collegiate Athletic Association shouldn't govern athletics? I know you're trying to make a point, but it's a very weak one.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Okay, let me throw this out||
Okay, let me throw this out there.
How about the United Auto Workers? Are they involved with the automobiles, or are they involved with the workers? They have no say in how a Ford Escape is made, but they do have some input into how long Johnny Assemblyline can work without a break.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||The point is simply that||
The point is simply that Smith was not an all-world recruit. Michigan did not need to offer him when they did. IIRC, he did not have many offers when Michigan stepped forward. He was the #11 running back at Scout, but he was #37 at Rivals. Neither one of those means that he's necessarily elite, so I don't buy the argument that any coach would say "I've got to get this guy because star rankings!"
If he were a consensus 5-star recruit, or even the #1 running back (like Derrick Green was), then I might be able to buy it.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Exactly.||
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I'm going to type "Exactly"||
I'm going to type "Exactly" in response to all of your posts.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Well, I think MOST of the||
Well, I think MOST of the really good players go to those schools. Occasionally you get good prospects with good offers who end up at other schools for various reasons (they feel comfortable, they know people going there, they make a good connection with the coach, etc.). You can't really fight the fact that highly successful players want to attend the highly successful programs. But if you throw in thousands of dollars of booster pay, that probably throws things way out of whack. There are upstarts in college football (Boise State, TCU, Baylor, etc.) who aren't traditional powerhouses but have been able to work their way up the ranks. If you throw money into the equation, Baylor might not be able to get some of the guys they have in recent years.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I think the line has to be||
I think the line has to be drawn somewhere. There are numerous things that draw students to play for a certain school. Money would be the most obvious one. I don't think "You can take easy classes" is anywhere near the draw of money. Girls are another draw, but the NCAA can't regulate how many pretty girls there are on campus.
There don't appear to be any governing bodies covering the whole $500 handshake thing, which is I think where the NCAA has to step in. Otherwise, there's a complete void, because it's not illegal for a rich guy to hand a college kid money. However, there are deans, professors, academic counselors, etc. who are in place to manage academic fraud.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Weren't those sanctions||
Weren't those sanctions rescinded? I thought that was sort of an admission that they overstepped their bounds.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||"Yes , but they constantly||
"Yes , but they constantly stress that they must maintain the integrity of the sport, vis-a-vis "amateurism"."
Amateurism and student-athletes are not the same thing. The amateurism portion of college football is at least partially intended to create parity. Otherwise, players would go to the highest bidder, which would be the Alabamas, Ohio States, Michigans, etc. of the world. All the good players would go there, and the sucky players would be left for the teams who can't afford it.
Naturally, the National COLLEGIATE Athletic Assocation is going to govern student-athletes. There's no way around it. Just like Kappa Kappa Gamma is going to include college students. But it doesn't mean they have to govern everything concerning those students.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I don't really get what||
I don't really get what you're suggesting. Is the NCAA supposed to employ people at every school who will pop into Rashad McCants' Swahili class, make sure he's there, and look over all his homework?
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Close. He was about 62.||
Close. He was about 62.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I've read a couple studies||
I've read a couple studies over the past several years that indicate Rivals is the most accurate. This was before 247 popped up, but it was Rivals #1, Scout #2, and ESPN #3.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||LOL. I can tell you for a||
LOL. I can tell you for a fact that you're making an irrelevant leap here. Just because someone is subbing doesn't mean nobody will hire them as a football coach. That happened at my school just last spring...and the guy was coaching by summertime.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||He wasn't close to a||
He wasn't close to a 5-star.
He was a 4-star at a couple sites, but he was a 3-star to Rivals, which has the most accurate rankings.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||wrong-ish||
3-star, #37 running back
There are multiple opinions out there, but Rivals is the most accurate site, and they didn't think much of him.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Just because he doesn't have||
Just because he doesn't have a job right now doesn't mean nobody would hire him.
You're making the leap that he actually applied for jobs, was turned down for jobs, etc. Maybe he decided to take a few months off. Maybe he's waiting for the right opening. So on and so forth.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||That doesn't surprise me.||
That doesn't surprise me. It's been a big part of some running offenses, and it makes sense with the RB talent we have. We probably have three guys who could feasibly start (Isaac, Green, Smith) at tailback, plus a pretty decent fullback or two. Also, he ran some back-heavy stuff at Michigan, so this is just a variation on what he ran in college.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||a) I don't believe you. b)||
a) I don't believe you.
b) Smith wasn't highly rated, so that doesn't even make sense.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Yeah...what college team||
Yeah...what college team would want to hire a guy who has helped produce several record-setting running backs at the University of Michigan?