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| 9 hours 41 min ago | I'm a bit concerned, because |
I'm a bit concerned, because Glasgow was really bad last year. Of course, this might just be coach-speak, because we've seen other guys they've talked up end up getting buried on the bench. |
| 12 hours 34 min ago | FWIW, I posted a scouting |
FWIW, I posted a scouting report on him a couple months ago and there was a fairly lengthy conversation that ensued: |
| 2 days 10 hours ago | Here's a free article from |
Here's a free article from 247 on the camp. They list the top five competitors, and Speight isn't one of them. However, they do give him a form of "honorable mention." |
| 2 days 10 hours ago | So if he's a legit 6'4" and |
So if he's a legit 6'4" and will show up on the roster as 6'5", then he's still probably unlikely to play tackle. I also, by the way, just think he plays like a guard, regardless of height. I've said that since he came on my radar. |
| 2 days 14 hours ago | I think it's just not very |
I think it's just not very likely that shorter guys have the wingspan/length necessary for the job. Wingspan approximates height, so guys who are 6'3" are less likely to have the reach necessary; they also lose a couple inches worth of weight, so then you have to worry about their strength at the point of attack, too. |
| 2 days 18 hours ago | Okay, I just re-watched the |
Okay, I just re-watched the first 2:15 of Shane's junior highlights, and - except for his runs/scrambles - the video highlights his accuracy. Deep balls are part of it, but so are throws to the sideline, throws to the back of the end zone, fitting the ball in between the safety/corner, etc. The point is that a QB could complete 25% of 200 passes on the year, but if his highlight film shows just those 50 complete passes out there, someone could say, "Wow, this guy's really accurate." |
| 2 days 18 hours ago | At Michigan the majority of |
At Michigan the majority of tackles over the last decade have been 6'6" or taller (according to Michigan's rosters). Lewan, Schofield, Ortmann, Dorrestein, Huyge, Kolodziej, etc. I think the last 6'5" guy to play tackle was Steve Schilling, who...moved to guard. The guys in the OT pipeline are 6'6" and 6'7" players like Tuley-Tillman, Braden, and Magnuson. It's clearly a trend with Michigan's coaches, not just recruitniks. |
| 2 days 18 hours ago | I think Logan Tuley-Tillman |
I think Logan Tuley-Tillman has a lot of potential. I also think Erik Magnuson has the feet to do well as a pass blocker; he's supposedly pretty ineffective in the running game. His body needs to improve, though; he's young and I just don't think he has the physical strength to do the job right now. |
| 2 days 19 hours ago | There's virtually no buzz |
There's virtually no buzz about any of those tackles committing. Jones is probably the closest, but Michigan is probably #2 or #3 there right now, pending some visits next month. |
| 2 days 19 hours ago | I'm not a big fan of Grimm. |
I'm not a big fan of Grimm. He's a waist bender, and he doesn't have the feet to play left tackle. |
| 3 days 8 hours ago | Casey Tucker has expressed a |
Casey Tucker has expressed a little bit of interest after decommitting from USC. Roderick Johnson has visited. Otherwise, we might need to send out some new offers. |
| 3 days 8 hours ago | that's so sweet |
Maybe she'll visit you while you lie in your casket. |
| 3 days 9 hours ago | Don't talk about "John |
Don't talk about "John Carter" that way. |
| 3 days 11 hours ago | Remember all those highlights |
Remember all those highlights of Nik Stauskas missing all those shots before he got to college? It was right when I saw those highlights that I knew he would be a great shooter in college. |
| 3 days 11 hours ago | Or breaking into a |
Or breaking into a convenience store to get a burrito for Brooklyn Decker. |
| 3 days 11 hours ago | Hopefully he's not quite as |
Hopefully he's not quite as addicted to alcohol. |
| 3 days 11 hours ago | I think we have our next |
I think we have our next Attractive Michigan Girls of the Week... |
| 3 days 13 hours ago | Morris's senior year and |
Morris's senior year and Under Armour performance dampened a lot of excitement about him. I don't think we should overreact to those things, but they're a part of the "evaluation." The fact is that he didn't do so hot. On the flip side, he did well at The Opening last summer. |
| 4 days 9 hours ago | Brandon Graham ALMOST chased |
Brandon Graham ALMOST chased an MSU running back down from behind. Crable missed a tackle as the play went to the defense's right, then chased him down all the way back to the left and downfield to make the tackle. P.S.: I think it was A.J. Jimmerson, but I might be wrong. |
| 4 days 10 hours ago | It is hyperlinked, at least |
It is hyperlinked, at least for me... |
| 4 days 10 hours ago | That's one reason why I've |
That's one reason why I've stopped posting pictures of the fairer gender. |
| 4 days 11 hours ago | Height/length is important |
Height/length is important for a few reasons. First of all, basic human anatomy suggests that shorter guys are going to weigh less, so a 6'4" guy with good proportions might weigh 245 while a 6'2" guy would proportionally weigh 220 or so. And weight is a factor in taking on blocks, ball carriers, etc. Second, the SAM is often used as a pass rusher, which necessitates taking on offensive tackles at times. If you lack good length, it makes it more difficult to get your hands in the OT's chest, it prevents you from knocking down passes, it makes it a little tougher to reach around a blocker and grab the QB, etc. As you mention, I think it also helps in pass coverage because SAM linebackers - while good athletes in their own right - might not have the basic coverage abilities of some WILL linebackers, strong safeties in the flat, etc. |
| 4 days 12 hours ago | Well, I don't know what he |
Well, I don't know what he benches or squats or power cleans or anything. But he struggles sometimes with bringing runners down, which caused the "functional strength" comment. |
| 4 days 13 hours ago | It seems like kids always |
It seems like kids always come in an inch or two shorter than their listed height, so he's probably more like 6'2". |
| 4 days 13 hours ago | I'm not so sure that Swain |
I'm not so sure that Swain looks like a SAM. To me he looks like he could be a WILL, maybe like a Ben Gedeon type with WILL skills and the potential to grow into a MIKE. Unless he's hit a growth spurt, he looks a little short to be the prototypical SAM that Michigan's coaches have been pursuing. |
| 4 days 13 hours ago | He has likely added weight |
He has likely added weight since the end of the football season. The report is based on his junior film. Ferns is supposedly in the 235 lb. range, but his legs aren't/weren't as skinny as Winovich's. They might look similar in the upper body but have a significant difference in the lower body. |
| 4 days 13 hours ago | I usually profile about 90 |
I usually profile about 90 players and lead right up to the first game, so it should start at the end of May/beginning of June. I haven't set the schedule yet, so I can't tell you an exact date. |
| 4 days 14 hours ago | I think a lot of them do |
I think a lot of them do maintain their speed/athleticism. Those guys know how to run and are used to making plays in space, so I think their previously existing level of proprioception helps as they add weight. |
| 4 days 14 hours ago | Yeah...the last one was |
Yeah...the last one was Lawrence Marshall. |
| 4 days 14 hours ago | Magic! I don't know... That |
Magic! I don't know... That was weird. Thanks for the heads up. |
| 4 days 14 hours ago | I'm not going to argue that |
I'm not going to argue that the Lions are GOOD, but they are certainly talented. The problem with the Lions was poor secondary play, injuries, and a few head cases (Titus Young, Ndamukong Suh, Nick Fairley). All those guys were talented, plus Stafford, Calvin Johnson, etc. It's not CFL talent. The Raiders, however, are very much lacking in talent. |
| 5 days 9 hours ago | Good. Hopefully that opens |
Good. Hopefully that opens the door for a non-criminal to make hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars. |
| 5 days 9 hours ago | Gale Sayers. |
Gale Sayers. |
| 5 days 10 hours ago | Aw, shucks. What can I say? |
Aw, shucks. What can I say? I'm a real innovator. |
| 5 days 10 hours ago | It's a surprise. |
It's a surprise. |
| 5 days 12 hours ago | Chuck E. Cheese. |
Chuck E. Cheese. |
| 5 days 12 hours ago | Branding = Quin Blanding |
Branding = Quin Blanding |
| 5 days 12 hours ago | yessssssssss! |
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| 5 days 12 hours ago | inside linebacker |
He's projected to be a WILL, maybe a MIKE if he bulks up. |
| 5 days 12 hours ago | Never heard of him. |
Never heard of him. |
| 5 days 12 hours ago | I've made the new phone app |
I've made the new phone app available to everyone but you. Sorry. |
| 5 days 12 hours ago | Lee's Summit is the same |
Lee's Summit is the same school that Evan Boehm attended, whom some of you may remember from the 2012 class. He had some interest in Michigan but ended up committing to Mizzou. |
| 5 days 12 hours ago | If we're talking about |
If we're talking about refilling the roster, Cameron Gordon will graduate and Ringer/Jones have left. There's some flexibility, but if your roster is balanced in the first place, then you probably want to take as many players (or more) as you're losing. |
| 5 days 12 hours ago | "Based on that, I have no |
"Based on that, I have no freaking clue how you could arrive at "they'll only pick up a 3rd LB if..." scenario. Unless you are a small child or mentally incapacitated." That seems . . . harsh. |
| 6 days 9 hours ago | His straight line speed isn't |
His straight line speed isn't great either. He runs well on a track but doesn't have good football speed. |
| 6 days 11 hours ago | That's not good news, because |
That's not good news, because that means Gardner must be terrible. Morris isn't going to be a good college QB right off the bat. |
| 6 days 14 hours ago | FWIW, I've gathered as many |
FWIW, I've gathered as many freshman jersey numbers as I can: http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2013/05/class-of-2013-freshman-jersey... |
| 1 week 4 hours ago | Damn straight. |
Damn straight. |
| 1 week 5 hours ago | The gist that I got when |
The gist that I got when following Delano Hill's recruitment is that he's a stellar athlete when it comes to measurables (size, speed, leaping ability, etc.) but hasn't put it together on the field. He's a Michael Cox/Josh Furman type, who can run fast and pass the eyeball test but doesn't make plays consistently. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see the balls-to-the-wall, aggressive, playmaking instincts/mentality that I think he should have. |
| 1 week 5 hours ago | You could end up with a |
You could end up with a similar situation to when Leon Hall came to Michigan. As a freshman, he played the nickel spot but also started one game in place of Jeremy LeSueur. Then Hall started after that. I think Peppers needs to be on the field ASAP; if he's not better than Raymon Taylor immediately, it won't take long. If he were to come to Michigan, I think Peppers could be your nickel guy with Taylor/Countess at the corners and Wilson/Thomas as the safeties. And then you could plug in Peppers pretty much anywhere if there's a departure/long term injury. |
| 1 week 5 hours ago | all you need to know: |
They serve beer. |
| 1 week 5 hours ago | Illinoise! |
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| 1 week 6 hours ago | My pompass skills are just |
My pompass skills are just fine, thank you very much. How's that? |
| 1 week 9 hours ago | I'm pretty sure he's from |
I'm pretty sure he's from Gary, Indiana. My home sweet home. |
| 1 week 9 hours ago | For a second there, I thought |
For a second there, I thought that GIF was the old Hill Auditorium. That place is pretty awesome. |
| 1 week 10 hours ago | LOL. will = ill will |
LOL. will = ill will |
| 1 week 10 hours ago | Some members of the 2011 |
Some members of the 2011 class are Rodriguez's, so a few will probably last through the 2015 season. So it will be 2016 before it's an all-Hoke team. |
| 1 week 10 hours ago | Well, if you look at older |
Well, if you look at older guys who are buried on the bench, that seems to be a good place to start when "predicting" these things. Jordan Paskorz and Richard Ash are redshirt juniors who are behind some youngsters, and Josh Furman is in the same boat, although Robinson's departure opens the door there a little bit. There have also been injury-related rumors about Antonio Poole, who will be a redshirt sophomore this year. For the record, I'm not promoting the idea that any of these guys should depart. I didn't really expect Wilkins, Ringer, or Jones to be on the 2013 roster, so Robinson's is the only departure so far that has come as a bit of a surprise. |
| 1 week 10 hours ago | Frankly, I'm surprised Mike |
Frankly, I'm surprised Mike Jones stuck around this long. I thought he might be on the way out when Hoke first got hired, I was a little surprised when he stuck around for 2012, and then I was even more surprised when he was still on the roster this spring. I don't wish him any will, but he's clearly just not on par with Michigan-caliber players athletically. If he wishes to continue his football career, I hope he does it on the FCS or D-II level, because I don't think he can hack it in FBS. |
| 1 week 10 hours ago | True. Denard, Roh, Campbell, |
True. Denard, Roh, Campbell, Hawthorne, and Vincent Smith have already graduated, so I guess it's 24 out of a possible 54 |
| 1 week 11 hours ago | 24 players remain from the |
24 players remain from the 2009-2011 recruiting classes that were recruited by Rodriguez. Including the 22 from 2009, the 27 from 2010, and his 10 verbals from 2011 before getting fired, that's a total of 59 possible. So that's a little less than 50% of his commits/signees still remaining. |
| 1 week 1 day ago | Come on, guys. He's just |
Come on, guys. He's just misunderstood. |
| 1 week 2 days ago | Marshall. |
Marshall. |
| 1 week 2 days ago | He is the Director of Player |
Singletary is the Director of Player Personnel: http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/recruiting-staff-footbl.html Hecklinski is the recruiting coordinator: http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/hecklinski_jeff00.html |
| 1 week 2 days ago | Yes, he was. He graduated in |
Yes, he was. He graduated in 2002: |
| 1 week 2 days ago | Yes. |
Yes. |
| 1 week 2 days ago | I mostly agree on the size |
I mostly agree on the size thing, but I disagree on the explosiveness aspect and the projection for their positions. I think Robinson is a more explosive player, hits like a ton of bricks (or at least 230 lbs. of them), and projects well to the WDE spot. The difference between him and Marshall is the wingspan/bulk, which can't be helped much. |
| 1 week 2 days ago | I don't think Marshall is a |
I don't think Marshall is a SAM. |
| 1 week 2 days ago | Um...okay. |
Um...okay. |
| 1 week 2 days ago | Peppers can play anywhere in |
Peppers can play anywhere in the secondary he and the coaches want him to play. |
| 1 week 2 days ago | I don't know, but there might |
I don't know, but there might be some consternation about putting a 6'7" guy at defensive tackle. |
| 1 week 2 days ago | Next thing you're gonna tell |
Next thing you're gonna tell us is that Tara Reid's boobs are fake and that Falcon Heene isn't really floating away in a balloon... |
| 1 week 2 days ago | My entire second paragraph |
My entire second paragraph was devoted to explaining that Mattison has probably watched game film of Marshall. I guess you missed that section. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | I've read that he wants to go |
I've read that he wants to go closer to home (he's from Illinois), so maybe Iowa or Illinois or Indiana could be good fits. Considering the offense they run at Indiana, I think he would be a good fit there. The kid's got talent. I haven't followed him closely enough to have an idea of what's going on between the ears, but based purely on physical skill, I wouldn't be opposed to seeing him come to Michigan and compete with Morris/Gardner/Speight. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | Yeah, I think that would be |
Yeah, I think that would be the best place for him if he were to come to Michigan. He supposedly moved to LB in 2012 (after previously playing DE) in an attempt to get more college exposure because a lot of teams thought he would be too small to play DE at the next level. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | A few of the sites (if not |
A few of the sites (if not all) only use the top X number of commits. That way taking 30 three-stars doesn't outweigh taking 20 four-stars. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | You often see defensive |
You often see defensive linemen blowing up blockers, using hump moves, swim moves, rip moves, etc. I don't think the DE position lends itself to opponents' lowlights any more than any other position. You won't ever hear me suggest that I'm a better evaluator of talent than Mattison, but there's a decent chance that he has never seen Marshall play football in person, either. He has probably seen game film and/or camp film, but I don't know if Marshall attended Michigan's camp (here's at least a partial list of participants from last summer). For all any of us know, Mattison okayed extending the offer to Marshall based on perhaps a little more film than is available to us on the internet. Again, he's a better coach than I am, and I'm perfectly capable of being wrong. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | One weakness is that he |
One weakness is that he probably won't stay for four years. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | Heh. As I mentioned, I think |
Heh. As I mentioned, I think Marshall would start out as a weakside end, but I see him eventually playing strongside end once he starts to add significant weight. If he remains below 260, then he's obviously not going to move to the strong side. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | Texas will start to fall down |
Texas will start to fall down the list if their entire class fills up with guys of similar quality to what they already have. They have decent recruits, but they're ranked so highly because they already have 14 verbals. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | I'm not sure I agree. Yes, |
I'm not sure I agree. Yes, they are usually good with leverage and using their hands, but they often seem to be interior players like Mike Martin, Brady Pallante, etc., who are hand fighting with 6'2"-6'4" guards and centers. That's different than playing against 6'6" or 6'7" offensive tackles. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | I see a couple of the |
I see a couple of the perpetual neggers have had a field day with this thread. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | Again, those camps heavily |
Again, those camps heavily favor defensive linemen. I wouldn't put too much stock in that MVP award... |
| 1 week 3 days ago | Well, according to the |
Well, according to the recruiting services at the time, Wormley was 6'7" and 290 lbs. Marshall is listed at 6'4", 225 lbs., tops. I mean, I guess you can compare him to whomever you want. I gave a couple suggestions of recent vintage. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | He doesn't look anything like |
He doesn't look anything like Jibreel Black to me. I wouldn't be disappointed if the coaches offered Gelen Robinson, as long as the coaches were/are able to get one of those higher rated guys, too (Hand or McDowell). But I do think Robinson is small-ish and might get swallowed up by decent offensive tackles. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | I believe they were |
I believe they were originally looking at him as a tight end, but now that Bunting committed, the coaches want him for defense. I think he's below the top two defensive ends (McDowell, Hand) on the board but - with the caveat that I haven't fully scouted him - I did like his film better than Marshall's. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | Correct. I'm not sure if the |
Correct. I'm not sure if the coaches have seen him at camps, but they have almost surely had more access to him than I have. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | I'm drinking H-two-oh. I have |
I'm drinking H-two-oh. I have a full weekend planned of helping a friend move, seeing "The Great Gatsby", playing basketball, and going out for Mother's Day. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | I encourage you to... |
...read my comment again. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | not yet |
Next week I'll do a linebacker, and the following week will be a cornerback. The corner will probably be Peppers, unless something drastic happens. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | Scouts don't typically attend |
Scouts don't typically attend MSU pro days, though. It's a pain in the ass to get clearance for entry to Jackson State Penitentiary. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | He does have something going |
He does have something going for him. Thus the "Strengths" section. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | I mean, feel free to get |
I mean, feel free to get excited about whomever you want. This is just my evaluation. Now I feel like we need pictures of Kate Upton to cheer you up... |
| 1 week 3 days ago | I don't think he'll end up as |
I don't think he'll end up as a rush linebacker. His body will probably fill out too much, and I don't think he has the change of direction skills to do that. Plus he plays DE/DT in high school, and I don't like the idea of moving guys back in a defense. |
| 1 week 3 days ago | I think there's the potential |
I think there's the potential for his career to develop somewhat like Roh's, where he starts off at WDE and eventually grows into a SDE. I think there's plenty of room for him to add enough weight to play SDE; he's thicker and taller than Frank Clark was in high school, and Clark is up around 280 now. |
| 1 week 4 days ago | You're probably right - I |
You're probably right - I think people defended him more once Hoke/Mattison/Mallory arrived. However, I still find it odd that people defended a less productive J.T. Floyd with better coaching and bash a more productive James Rogers with terrible coaching. |
| 1 week 4 days ago | That's just |
That's just brother-on-brother smack talk since his bro now coaches at Kentucky. |
| 1 week 4 days ago | The problem is that they're |
The problem is that they're looking at him as an outside linebacker. He's not an outside linebacker. He's an inside linebacker, at least in Michigan's defense. They look at "outside linebackers" like in a 4-3 Over defense, but we're an Under defense where the WILL is an ILB, not an OLB. |
| 1 week 4 days ago | (No subject) | |
| 1 week 4 days ago | Yup. |
Yup. |
| 1 week 4 days ago | I only applied to Michigan, |
I only applied to Michigan, too. I didn't realize until a few years later how risky of a choice that was. |
| 1 week 4 days ago | By then Mike Hart will be the |
By then Mike Hart will be the offensive coordinator, and Jordan Kovacs will be the defensive backs coach. |
| 1 week 4 days ago | I don't understand why people |
I don't understand why people say that James Rogers wasn't very good. He had 3 career receptions for 64 yards while playing receiver. He returned 1 kickoff for 24 yards. And when he finally became a starter (as a senior at cornerback), he had 40 tackles, 2 tackles for loss, 2 pass breakups, and 3 interceptions. The kid did a pretty decent job wherever the coaching staff put him. I won't suggest that he was an all-conference player or anything, but people were all over J.T. Floyd's nuts when I was criticizing him; Rogers had as many picks in one year as a starter as Floyd had in 34 career starts. Rogers also was an upperclassman during the Rodriguez years, so if he had played under Mattison/Mallory, who knows how good he could have been? Personally, I think Rogers is one of the most underrated players of the past decade or so. He made mistakes, but he was a good athlete who made some nice plays in limited time. |
| 1 week 4 days ago | Here you go. | |
| 1 week 4 days ago | It's really nice that they |
It's really nice that they don't have to play three of the best teams in the conference (assuming PSU can maintain its decent play from 2012). |
| 1 week 5 days ago | Wow, that's a really high |
Wow, that's a really high ranking for the Bobcats. That came out of nowhere. Good for them. I wonder where Ohio State is ranked... |
| 1 week 5 days ago | Okay, you don't like this |
Okay, you don't like this thread. Got it. Perhaps you should go peruse the one about the X Games, Jason Cornell, the Big Ten/ACC Challenge. Nobody is making you stay here and whine more about it. |
| 1 week 5 days ago | He's not rated because he's a |
He's not rated because he's a 2015 prospect. He will be highly ranked when it's time. |
| 1 week 5 days ago | I am not a head coach, but I |
I am not a head coach, but I have handled some of the administrative/recruiting related information for my high school's program. In addition to colleges employing private recruiting services (guys who keep databases, visit schools to watch practices and workouts, etc.), local universities send out questionnares to the high school coaches in their areas asking for contact information for players who might be interested/able to play at their level. For example, high schools in Michigan probably receive mail from Michigan, MSU, CMU, EMU, WMU, Miami-OH, Akron, Ball State, etc. I've also talked to some D-I coaches who just showed up at our school and flat-out asked about potential FBS prospects. Also, a guy like Ricky Powers (who coaches at Akron Buchtel now) might call up Brady Hoke and say, "I've got this sophomore safety that you might want to keep an eye on." With all of those resources in place, though, I still don't really see a problem with Urban Meyer and/or other coaches using Rivals, Scout, etc. to monitor recruiting. There are always going to be guys who slip through the cracks of your employees, and you're doing yourself a disservice if you don't keep an open mind to players who haven't previously been on your radar. |
| 1 week 5 days ago | I think you're lying to |
I think you're lying to yourself if you say the blame is on the coaches and athletic directors. The players (Webber, Bullock, etc.) CERTAINLY had something to do with the "dark years." I'm not saying they were solely responsible, but they were a factor. |
| 1 week 5 days ago | I have some character |
I have some character concerns about this prospect. There are rumors that he could be troublesome and incur some sanctions against Michigan, and I don't know if he'll stay all four years. TTB Rating: 37 |
| 1 week 6 days ago | Not to sound cold-hearted, |
Not to sound cold-hearted, but whether the dispatcher stayed on the line or not, the woman wasn't going to be "safe" until the police arrived two minutes later. It's true that she might have helped to calm the woman down, but in the grand scheme of things, no one was really harmed by the dispatcher getting off the phone. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | He's still reeling in offers, |
He's still reeling in offers, and he doesn't seem in a hurry to choose. There's still mutual interest between the two parties. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | It's quicker to reload, but I |
It's quicker to reload, but I also like veteran RB's as potential backups/role players. If you can spell a young guy with someone who can pass block and hit the holes, it's advantageous rather than throwing in another youngster who might screw up royally. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | I somewhat agree but saying |
I somewhat agree but saying "we shouldn't take a RB" is different than saying "we should only take an elite RB." If all we can get is someone like Vincent Smith, I might agree. If we can get Fournette or Mixon or Hood, then we should take a RB. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | I'm not assuming there won't |
I'm not assuming there won't be additions, but there's a reason that coaches try to keep a steady flow of talent at each position. We didn't do that at OL, and now we have really young guys starting on the interior. We didn't do that at QB, and now we're really thin if Gardner gets hurt. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | Rawls and Hayes will be a |
Rawls and Hayes will be a senior and redshirt junior, respectively, when the 2014 class arrives. There's a strong possibility that Green will leave early. So that essentially leaves Johnson, DeVeon Smith, and Norfleet as long-term options. That group has potential, but there's no one that really jumps out. I think you need at least one RB in every class, maybe more. Hole said he wants at least two every year. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | I'm not sure. His height is |
I'm not sure. His height is in question, with some claiming he's 6'4" and others claiming he's 6'1". I don't know if he has the instincts to play MIKE, so I think his skills might fit the SAM better. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | He's tall and very lean. |
He's tall and very lean. Projecting him forward requires a leap of faith that he can both add weight and maintain his athleticism. Not saying he won't be good, just that he's a long way from being fully developed. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | Hoke said that McCray will |
Hoke said that McCray will come in as a SAM. That actually doesn't leave a great deal of depth if Poole is questionable going forward and with Jones graduating. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | Putting Peppers at safety |
Putting Peppers at safety wouldn't leave much room for the tweeners to get PT if/when the coaches discover that Delano Hill or Channing Stribling or Reon Dawson can't play corner. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | That would appear to be a |
That would appear to be a strange development since the coaches are actively recruiting both an ILB and an OLB prospect. I think the loss of Ringer might open it up for both Watson and Winovich (if they both want to come). |
| 1 week 6 days ago | Braden Smith has supposedly |
Braden Smith has supposedly dropped Michigan. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | I think Ringer has always |
I think Ringer has always been too slow to be a viable option at WILL. Jenkins-Stone basically got that job by default with Poole being a question mark. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | Gardner was kind of a |
Gardner was kind of a no-brainer among those three, but I'll give credit where credit is due - he recruited a good one in Gardner. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | Spots often have a way of |
Spots often have a way of opening up. The coaches were still looking to add another player at the end of the 2013 cycle, despite the large class size already. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | Well, he missed a lot of |
Well, he missed a lot of games for Baylor. I'm not sure if it was the coach's decision, being buried on the depth chart, injury, or what, but there may be some other issues there. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | (No subject) | |
| 1 week 6 days ago | I wouldn't be surprised if we |
I wouldn't be surprised if we have a 2015 commitment prior to Under the Lights Part Deux. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | In My Opinion |
In My Opinion |
| 1 week 6 days ago | (No subject) | |
| 1 week 6 days ago | The last thing I heard, the |
The last thing I heard, the coaches were talking about him mainly as a safety prospect. I don't know why the Artavis Scott recruitment would be wearing off. Michigan has been pursuing both players all along and Smith said awhile ago that he would probably visit, so this isn't really a new development (other than the specific date). |
| 1 week 6 days ago | This kid could play safety or |
This kid could play safety or wide receiver and be good at either one. He also has a handy nickname, since John Smith is just kind of boring and makes me think of Pocahontas. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | Neat. |
Neat. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | I forget where I read it, but |
I forget where I read it, but somebody wrote that if he were eligible, Brett Hundley would have been the top QB picked in the 2013 NFL Draft. I always really liked Hundley, and there are significantly more high-impact QBs from the 2011 class than Gardner's 2010 class. Due to that reason, I somewhat expect a few high-profile QBs to leave early after the upcoming season (perhaps Bridgewater, Hundley, Hogan, Manziel, etc.). |
| 1 week 6 days ago | What if Hagerup stole the |
What if Hagerup stole the weed? |
| 1 week 6 days ago | For all we know, that was |
For all we know, that was Clark's first offense. Hagerup has been suspended EVERY SINGLE YEAR he's been in college, and basically, that streak is being extended to include 2010-2013 (four straight years!). In about a year and half, we'll see if he can get suspended for a fifth consecutive year... |
| 1 week 6 days ago | It's potentially good news. |
It's potentially good news. The site is still growing. Personally, I think girls and football go well together, because add in some food and you're good to go. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | Riddell or Schutt should look |
Riddell or Schutt should look into making football helmets look like that. I think that might help with the concussion problems. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | That interview was hilarious |
That interview was hilarious and awesome. And, oh by the way, how great for the three women and their families. Thanks for sharing. |
| 1 week 6 days ago | They make pills for that. |
They make pills for that. |
| 2 weeks 1 hour ago | I'm not sure I understand. |
I'm not sure I understand. Why would he have been profiled last fall? He was a member of the 2012 class, so he signed his NLI in February 2012. If Brian is doing these things at the same point as last year, Johnson would have been profiled in spring/summer 2012. |
| 2 weeks 1 hour ago | I might be wrong, but it has |
I might be wrong, but it has seemed odd to me that Michigan offered a bunch of SAM prospects for 2014...and suddenly, not too long ago, they offered Kyron Watson. Either Michigan plans to take a third linebacker (perhaps Watson and Winovich?) or they wouldn't mind taking a MIKE prospect like Watson and moving Michael Ferns to SAM. In my opinion, Ferns could play either spot. |
| 2 weeks 2 hours ago | I don't know that the reason |
I don't know that the reason for his departure has been made public. Perhaps it was up to Ringer...perhaps he was encouraged to go by the coaches. I'm not saying this is what happened here, but Kellen Jones disappeared by the end of August camp in 2011 with no given reason. Later we found out that there were some legal things going on. Again, I'm NOT saying that Ringer was involved in any kind of legal issues, but sometimes these things are mutual...sometimes one party has a good reason to cut ties with the other. |
| 2 weeks 2 hours ago | 903, 42, 11 |
903, 42, 11 |
| 2 weeks 4 hours ago | College football was meant to |
College football was meant to be played on Saturday afternoons anyway. |
| 2 weeks 4 hours ago | It was generally a gut |
It was generally a gut feeling. I just didn't think he was a guy who would stick around if he had to watch from the sideline, and the other guys in his class/position (Ross, Bolden, Morgan, etc.) made that a pretty strong likelihood. |
| 2 weeks 5 hours ago | You people never listen to |
You people never listen to me! |
| 2 weeks 6 hours ago | He was talking about his |
He was talking about his belly button. |
| 2 weeks 6 hours ago | I had an inkling that Ringer |
I had an inkling that Ringer might not last when he was coming out of high school. |
| 2 weeks 9 hours ago | high floor, low ceiling |
It seems rare that a guy would be 6'2" and fast without seeing the field. The coaches will probably find a place for him at some point in his career, whether as a corner or safety or special teamer. I don't think he has the instincts and fluidity to be an absolute stud, but it would take a serious failure for him not to "make it" in some way, shape, or form. |
| 2 weeks 12 hours ago | Illinois has produced some |
Illinois has produced some high quality front seven players in the last few years (Mercilus, Liuget, etc.), so if I were a high schooler at one of those positions, I might consider U of I. But at most other positions, I would almost certainly go somewhere else. |
| 2 weeks 12 hours ago | Oh no! Why did Denard cut |
Oh no! Why did Denard cut off his dreads?!?!?!?! |
| 2 weeks 12 hours ago | It would just add to his |
It would just add to his coaching legend to take a 29-53 team and win a championship within a couple years. |
| 2 weeks 1 day ago | MSU is the obvious choice. |
MSU is the obvious choice. That's where good offensive linemen go to be great. Just look at...umm...Flozell "The Hotel." |
| 2 weeks 1 day ago | Multitasking is overrated. |
Multitasking is overrated. It just makes you worse at doing all the things you're doing. |
| 2 weeks 1 day ago | Stupid, immature nicknames |
Stupid, immature nicknames like "DickRod" are frowned upon around here. |
| 2 weeks 1 day ago | It's more fun to say it that |
It's more fun to say it that way. Try it sometime. |
| 2 weeks 1 day ago | Yeah, sorry for the tangent, |
Yeah, sorry for the tangent, but Chee-tos are important. Almost as important as Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. |
| 2 weeks 1 day ago | Yeah, it's tough work |
Yeah, it's tough work swiveling your eyes back and forth... What we need is public speakers who stand completely still and machines designed to pop Chee-tos in our mouths while we drool down our chins. How can we call ourselves "the leaders and the best" when nobody's created a Chee-tos feeder yet...? |
| 2 weeks 1 day ago | Graham also had a pretty |
Graham also had a pretty decent season last year, with 5.5 sacks a year after he tore his ACL. Not that it really matters who it is, but guys like Donovan Warren and Ernest Shazor come to mind as players who left early and never latched on in the NFL. I have heard that Warren is back in Ann Arbor to work on finishing up school. |
| 2 weeks 1 day ago | Okay, that's a great |
Okay, that's a great sentiment... ...so what about all the other Michigan students who "make mistakes" and then want to return? Should they get scholarships just because they got their girlfriend pregnant and had to go get a full-time job? Or because they hit a rough patch in their personal life and decided they needed a year or two off to get things straightened out? |
| 2 weeks 1 day ago | Yes, that was Morgan |
Yes, that was Morgan Trent. I'm not sure how you get those two mixed up... Do you guys remember that one time when Donovan Warren busted through the line against MSU and absolutely crushed Glenn Winston? Man, that was awesome. |
| 2 weeks 2 days ago | Start? We started a few |
Start? We started a few years ago under Rodriguez... |
| 2 weeks 2 days ago | I rarely say that Michigan |
I rarely say that Michigan cooled on players. That just so happens to be the case with Doles, whether you like it or not. |
| 2 weeks 2 days ago | I've been relaying this |
I've been relaying this message for a couple weeks. It's not something I created last night after Doles committed. |
| 2 weeks 2 days ago | He's like an NFL team's |
He's like an NFL team's general manager, minus the drafting/contract negotiations portion. He takes care of finances, logistics, etc. for the coaches and team. The AD obviously has lots of other sports to oversee, too, although they're less important because football rules. |
| 2 weeks 2 days ago | WOTS is that on his |
WOTS is that on his unofficial visit, Doles refused to wear a ski mask. |
| 2 weeks 2 days ago | Oh, stop complaining - the |
Oh, stop complaining - the Lions went 0-16. Compared to that season, the Jags are a juggernaut. |
| 2 weeks 2 days ago | It's not THAT bad of a loss. |
It's not THAT bad of a loss. His other offers were from Iowa State, Air Force, Army, and Navy. |
| 2 weeks 2 days ago | I have a hard time reading |
I have a hard time reading the thread title without thinking that Michigan hired a pageant winner from down south. |
| 2 weeks 2 days ago | I've been called worse by |
I've been called worse by better. Anyway, I know it's kind of ridiculous that good ol' Magnus is trying to be the voice of reason, but maybe everyone should just go back to his corner and cool off a little. Getting into a slapfight about typographical errors and such is a little too heavy for a Friday night. Everyone ought to be resting up for Sinko duh Mio. |
| 2 weeks 2 days ago | This is fun. |
This is fun. |
| 2 weeks 2 days ago | ...says the guy who's calling |
...says the guy who's calling people names on an internet message board. |
| 2 weeks 2 days ago | Boy, I can honestly say I've |
Boy, I can honestly say I've never been called "pompass" prior to now. I think we're all going to learn a lot from you. |
| 2 weeks 2 days ago | And my point is simply that |
And my point is simply that all of those weights are inflated. If his profile lists him at 205, he's probably closer to 195. |
| 2 weeks 3 days ago | WOTS was that Michigan kind |
WOTS was that Michigan kind of cooled on Doles, too, so it was sort of a mutual parting of ways. |
| 2 weeks 3 days ago | Yeah, I haven't been |
Yeah, I haven't been impressed by what I've seen of Marshall. It's a little tough to get a good read on him because the offensive linemen across from him just aren't that great. I think you have to base almost your entire evaluation on what kind of athlete he is (running, changing direction, etc.), because you can't gather much about his technique or even his strength. |
| 2 weeks 3 days ago | (No subject) |
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| 2 weeks 3 days ago | Correct. And if you have to |
Correct. And if you have to teach it, it needs to be learned. Sometimes learning is tough. Therefore, it might be a tough transition. |
| 2 weeks 3 days ago | He had fewer receptions and |
He had fewer receptions and blocking assignments than most running backs, too. |
| 2 weeks 3 days ago | He lined up at fullback at |
He lined up at fullback at Michigan, too. |
| 2 weeks 3 days ago | Real recognize real? |
Real recognize real? Marshall committed to Ohio State and then decommitted a couple days later. Neither party is "real." |
| 2 weeks 3 days ago | You need to get out more. |
You need to get out more. |
| 2 weeks 3 days ago | How did he get one of those? |
How did he get one of those? |
| 2 weeks 3 days ago | I appear to be in the |
I appear to be in the minority, but I'll take the good open field runner (provided he has speed to go along with his shiftiness). Big plays don't happen very often unless you have speed. I think big, between-the-tackles runners can be manufactured. You can bulk up running backs, use fullback-type players, etc. Look at Iowa with Mark Weisman, Stanford with Toby Gerhart, etc. Those guys aren't very special as runners, but the coaches used them within the context of their offense and had success. There's nothing wrong with that, because that's what good coaches do...but speed is probably the most valued asset in the sport of football. |
| 2 weeks 3 days ago | It's odd that a video of a |
It's odd that a video of a guy dunking would help you reach this conclusion. Virtually the entire NBA and most college basketball players are qualified to date your daughter(s), if and when you have them. |
| 2 weeks 3 days ago | I don't think Michigan needs |
I don't think Michigan needs two, but that's what Hoke said. |
| 2 weeks 3 days ago | Marvin Jones, huh? He was |
Marvin Jones, huh? He was pretty good as a linebacker at Florida State and with the Jets. It's quite a move for him to slim down and move to WR. |
| 2 weeks 3 days ago | Roundtree is one of those |
Roundtree is one of those guys that I can see being a backup wideout or a guy who gets signed late in the season when injuries start to mount. I think he might be able to make a go of it for a few years. |
| 2 weeks 3 days ago | Stanford only took a 12-man |
Stanford only took a 12-man class in 2013, and there were just two 3-star linemen in that class. But in 2012 they got seven linemen, two of which were 5-star offensive tackles, four 4-stars, and one 3-star. That's a total of two 5-stars, four 4-stars, and three 3-stars. That's an average star rating of 3.89. Michigan got one 5-star, seven 4-stars, and two 3-stars in that span. That's an average star rating of 3.90. So that's virtually a dead heat. I haven't watched film of Stanford's 3-star guys, but I might prefer to take the class(es) that included Andrus Peat, Kyle Murphy, and Josh Garnett from a pure talent standpoint. |
| 2 weeks 3 days ago | Yeah, Marshon Lattimore from |
Yeah, Marshon Lattimore from Glenville is a top 100 guy...and Damon Webb from Cass Tech is highly rated, too. And Michigan has offered both. |
| 2 weeks 3 days ago | Robinson was listed at 185 as |
Robinson was listed at 185 as a true freshman in 2009. |
| 2 weeks 3 days ago | Wow...I think I vaguely |
Wow...I think I vaguely remember that connection, but that's an odd bit of trivia. I have thought that there was never much made of that injury, because it was fairly gruesome...but I guess that timing is why. |
| 2 weeks 4 days ago | After what has happened with |
After what has happened with the last couple Crete-Monee players, I'm not surprised that the Nyles Morgan thing hasn't got off the ground. And Clifton Garrett hasn't even been offered, I don't think. He's a MIKE prospect and the coaches want(ed) Michael Ferns III to play MIKE, although the offer to Watson suggests that maybe they could take an ILB prospect and move Ferns to OLB. |
| 2 weeks 4 days ago | That's the way it seems. I |
That's the way it seems. I think they would take Hand (a DE) and McDowell (a DE/DT) and call it a day. Weakside end isn't a huge need at this point with Clark, Beyer, Ojemudia, and Charlton. But they would probably take a WDE if Hand or McDowell escapes. |
| 2 weeks 4 days ago | Stanford doesn't have any |
Stanford doesn't have any fans. Only rich alums who are too busy making millions of dollars and operating on brains to pay attention to football. |
| 2 weeks 4 days ago | Hah! I've never seen this |
Hah! I've never seen this before. We're recruiting Peppers as a CB, Westphal as a nickel/slot corner, and Nicholson as a safety. Like someone said above, I would be very surprised if we take just one defensive back. We've got 1 QB, 1 TE, we're taking 3 WRs, we want 2 LBs, 3 offensive linemen, presumably 2 RBs (Hoke said he'll always take "a couple"), 2 defensive linemen... All that adds up to 14. Unless they've increased their desired numbers for one of those positions, that should leave 2 spots for defensive backs. Obviously, there will be more open spots if there's attrition. |
| 2 weeks 4 days ago | Not that I'm above criticism, |
Not that I'm above criticism, but lots of people want me to tone things down...and if I listened to them, I'd be writing the same cheesy, sunshine-and-rainbows evaluations that the guys at Rivals and Scout write. I generally just say what I think; some people will like it, and some won't. Personally, I find evaluations to be completely useless unless they're frank about both the positives and the negatives. Like I said, you're free to have your opinion. But chances are slim that I'm going to change my approach. |
| 2 weeks 4 days ago | I don't know a ton about the |
I don't know a ton about the 2015 class yet, but there are several 2014 guys in Michigan and elsewhere who are as good as anyone in Ohio. There are a couple quality receivers in Ohio (Watkins, Kief), but Harris and Ways are just as good or better. If you can get Hand and McDowell, there's no need to offer Ohio guys at the SDE/DT position. So on and so forth. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see it as a monster class in Ohio for 2014. I think it was a much better class a couple years ago when they had Adolphus Washington, Ifeadi Odenigbo, etc. |


