I'VE HAD JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF YOU SONNY
|10 hours 51 min ago||I wasn't arguing that it was a well written statement.||
It goes off on too many tangents and has too many asides that don't help the point in the least. But this is multiple times that Martin as been listed; and others continuously take the track that everything good that came out of the 2008 and 2011 class is due to Rich, and every problem we have because of those classes is because of Carr and The Process. It's really everything. Each person got help but having players recruited to come to Michigan; each guy deserves credit for getting them to stick when he took over.
|10 hours 56 min ago||So we were in the title game 8 months ago||
And now Beilein is mediocre.
Just locking this in for the next time someone questions whether fans are fickle.
If you're really a fan and not just a concern troll.
|11 hours 23 min ago||X number of MGoPoints....$20 per 1000....all the non-post clicks||
NO ONE SAID THERE WAS GOING TO BE MATH!!!
|11 hours 28 min ago||Because when people still talk about the 1995 and 1996 game||
Our record those years was...oh, wait a minute....
But hey, the historically storied 1969 team did go 8-3....
|11 hours 31 min ago||This is a really good question....||
And it may be too soon after the OSU game to look at it clearly.
My head says the banner is what matters most. That's what you play for. But other than marking that date, I'm not sure it does that much more for the program going forward.
My heart says OSU, and it's not really about what it does to OSU's season, but what it means for the rivalry. There is nothing bigger than The Game. And it may have been the greatest edition of it with that conversion connecting. And sends the program into a much better place than winning one more game would for basketball. I mean, it'd be a championship in the books, but I'm not sure it would distinguish itself from a lot of other championship games. The football game would be one of the most storied upsets of all time.
Today I'd say the football game. In a couple of months reason will probably have taken over and I'd say the basketball game. But Michigan Football > Michigan Basketball.
|11 hours 42 min ago||Haven't you realized by now?||
Every good player who committed to Carr was "retained" by Rich, but every player like Jordan Morgan who had Rich as his "coach" all of 2 weeks in no way is any credit to Hoke.
And Kovacs was "recruited?" I mean, how many times did he try out? I think you're dong a disservice to Kovacs to say anyone got him on the team other than Kovacs himself.
|11 hours 51 min ago||And we got mentioned in the NYT!!||
THE BIG TEN COMPLETELY OWNS NEW YORK!!!!!
More seriously, does Duderstadt have a 1-800-NCA-ASUX hotline for any time someone is looking for someone to complain about college athletes? Look, we get it, you think all college sports should be a step below the Ivy League, you made your power play, lost, got shuffled out. But you're starting to look sad, Dude.
|11 hours 55 min ago||I completely believe YOU believe this||
But how many posts have we seen in the last month demanded Hoke show some fire and call people out and chew some ass?
|11 hours 56 min ago||That's ok.||
Wait till you have guys who you watched play while you were in college...have kids become recruits.
Hi GRIII, Tyrone Wheatley's kid, come on down....!!
(Even worse...they were underclassmen).
|13 hours 6 min ago||If Nik and Caris are our offensive stars||
This team is in some relative trouble. Not a woe is me season, but a don't think about getting back to the Final Four season. It might be that GRIII just is what he is, but if McGary doesn't shape back into at least our 2nd best player this team is in real trouble anytime it comes up against some really talented team like Duke. Caris could score because he didn't scare Duke at all; they knew he wasn't going to beat them.
(And is Morgan hurt too? Because I'm not seeing what Horford is bringing that earns him more minutes).
Probably doesn't mean much for the big picture. McGary was getting into shape this time last year, and didn't become an impact till the Tournament. Nik's ankle will heal. Our freshmen will get more experience. It's December, not March. But this team right now is a lot better than the basketball we've seen up until recently, but not a really good team, yet.
Oh, and Duke still sucks.
|1 day 5 hours ago||1. Same could be said of you,||
1. Same could be said of you, but you're still here.
2. I never said I wasn't prone to hyperbole or slant. I just think your arrogance over your "value added" posts when you're just as prone makes you part of the unwashed masses, not anything special. (And 1991 predictable? Vs. 8-2 #18 OSU? What?)
3. So you found the one prediction you were any way close on...ten a bunch of "ifs."
4. Predictions are like assholes, everyone has one. I don't really care what people predict as long as they don't act like theirs has any more moral imperative because of their "knowledge." I just know any list of people whose football knowledge I "respect'," you're not really high on it.
5. It took extensive research to click the mouse twice and see you being just as disagreeable as OMGShirtless.
6. Except your definition and your list are completely contrary to each other, and slanted.
|1 day 11 hours ago||All I can care about is the comments to that article||
Such a place exists?!?!
|1 day 11 hours ago||Hmmm...I'd go the opposite.||
If we were at the Rose Bowl, I'd like to see us in our traditional uniforms for the traditional game.
For the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl, who cares what you are wearing? It's a bowl named after a chicken wing.
|1 day 11 hours ago||Like this||
|1 day 12 hours ago||because for the moments when I am checking in and writing...||
So when you're not, it's your job to remind her of Stephen Amell?
Bet you rock the little green booties...
|1 day 12 hours ago||If she likes $$$ gifts....||
Why not come to Ann Arbor for the Winter Classic? Or more generally, DO something, rather than get her a THING. Once you have enough stuff, it just becomes more stuff. But what does she like to do? Does she love concerts, or the theater? Get great tickets to a show she really like. Anywhere she has ever really wanted to go? Plan a trip. It can even be next summer or something. Another city, another country. You're a big spender, you don't acquire more junk in the house, and you create memories that are probably more valuable than another piece of jewelry that will sit in a safe or something other than the one time a year she wears it.
|1 day 12 hours ago||Would a night with Tara Reid be that bad?||
Maybe not A#1 on your all time dream list, but I'm sure you've done worse.
|1 day 12 hours ago||Sigh...Draft day rage, returning....||
Just to make all those moves to be the 7 seed (only thanks to the craptasitc Atlantic) and face the Heat. And lose the draft pick. Drafting Burke and sucking hard enough to be in the lottery in THIS draft wasn't a good idea, nooooooo......
|2 days 6 hours ago||I didn't think anyone would ever be killed for being "fickle."||
What the hell is wrong with people?
Maybe this week is a good week to skip TWIS. Not that there's any pleasure to be taken from this in any way, but the opposite; pointing out how nuts fans can be over a football game isn't really that funny when people start acting out on being nuts.
|2 days 6 hours ago||They weren't so hot on the road.||
And all those games were a much shorter trip than coming over here.
Let's hope for a noon kickoff. (Probably not)
|2 days 7 hours ago||He was already convinced it was the school for him.||
He just had to be convinced it still was and that he was still wanted.
|2 days 7 hours ago||If he had gone 11-2, 8-5, 7-5 with what he inherited?||
|2 days 7 hours ago||That's hilarious||
"Ohio State" and "standards" in the same sentence, non-ironically.
|2 days 8 hours ago||You've had a blessed life.||
You've had a blessed life.
|2 days 8 hours ago||It took Art Briles 4 years to win more than 1 game over .500||
When did any of the other guys rebuild? Bowling Green? They all took over teams with talent on the roster.
|2 days 9 hours ago||I love it when they ask to be banned||
|2 days 9 hours ago||Now his status at UCLA may make it a better job now.||
But I'm not sure the program is superior.
|2 days 9 hours ago||Sony you have somewhere to play||
Antagonistic disingenuous devil's advocate, or are we spared another week of your contrary trolling?
|2 days 9 hours ago||I understand you can count to 40,000||
But not to 5.
|2 days 11 hours ago||You were right to post that remark.||
There probably is a trip to a South American country calling, but the response was to one of many of the negativity trolling some long time posters have been doing. It's not that people can't express less than positive takes; but bombarding over and over again with the exact same iinarticulate thought is just annoying. Maybe not "go slit your wrist" annoying, but in need of being stopped just about as much.
|2 days 11 hours ago||Is there ever a year with losses||
at Michigan that there's "leeway?"
|2 days 11 hours ago||After that performance by Devin...||
|2 days 11 hours ago||Sigh....||
And the other half of the board wondering why they didn't run a play to roll Devin out on the 2 point conversion.....
|2 days 11 hours ago||Didn't they already announce||
That ticket prices aren't going up next year?
|2 days 11 hours ago||So after the first four guys they went after and considered||
He was their #1 5th choice.
|2 days 12 hours ago||I think what he's saying is||
Mature people don't hold another's failure as their own, and don't hold others to higher standards of achievment than they hold themselves.
|2 days 12 hours ago||Well, considering kicking in that direction||
Other than the shank all the other kicks had gone out the back of the endzone, it would have been from the 25 not 35. And OSU had no timeouts left, so they'd have to try and pass, which wasn't where they were really dangerous that day.
|2 days 12 hours ago||But a lot of those first round QBs you tout||
Weren't taken in the top ten. And weren't thought of as sure-fire franchise guys.
Since Brady won-
Brad Johnson (taken in a round that doesn't even exist anymore)
Roethlisberger outside the top ten
Manning, Manning #1
Big Ben again
Rodgers well outside the top ten
Flacco outside the top ten.
Of the 12 Super Bowl winners 3 have been by guys taken in the top ten (one guy twice) and they both went #1 overall. So actually your point says that if you're in the top ten you shouldn't take a QB unless you have the #1 overall pick ,and you're more likely to get a Super Bowl winning QB by taking a guy later in the first round (or even after). And with the later guy you're actually not wed to keeping him because you haven't invested the pick or the money in him that you have with a top pick flop.
|2 days 13 hours ago||So we either didn't have one 2 pt play we practiced ready||
Or we didn't switch it from our one 2 pt play to another after the time out by OSU. Argh.
Unless you win, you can't really win.
|2 days 13 hours ago||I'm here for the||
|2 days 13 hours ago||In what way is it a better job?||
They have a worse all time winning pecentage, less national championships, are the #2 sport at the school, and the #2 football program in their city, no more state.
|2 days 13 hours ago||As a relatively new parent||
I kept expecting to have more perspective after the losses. But maybe not as much as I expected. Sure, the only laugh I had Saturday night was when my daughter gurgled something to her mom and me. And maybe the bounce back time IS shorter. This last game maybe not so much because I'm not mad....the mad ones might dissipate more quickly. This one just left me sad. For the team. For the coaches. For the program. Missed opportunity.
|2 days 13 hours ago||OSU and App State? Stop taking your kid to games.||
|2 days 13 hours ago||The better question is||
If Dileo had caught the 2-pt conversion, would it have changed his mind?
|2 days 13 hours ago||I actually think it's a good hire for USC.||
But the whole "REAL big time programs only go out and hire sure fire winners and big names" thing doesn't really seem to be working or happening for USC. I mean, that 34-29 career record...he's only getting the job because he has USC ties! /s
|2 days 13 hours ago||As long as they don't kill 80 people in two days.||
|2 days 14 hours ago||I'm sure "jerk" to you means||
"Questioning your incomparable football knowledge." As your reaction like there are some "value added" posters that deserve special treatment. Somehow the site survived your two year break sans your insights. I mean, how can you not be right when you say "Manball has nothing to do with scheme" then post a thread of all the teams that don't run MANBALL in the top 25 offenses? With your "2%" you said to keep it that close the defense would play well (it didn't), we'd need to be +3 TO margin with no turnovers (not even close), less than 25 yards in penalties (more), no bad punts or kicks (had one put at the 35), and Ohio will score 50 and we'll punt 8 times. It was so ridiculous in its excess I wonder if you've ever watched a Michigan and Ohio State game before. Because for a guy who acts like he knows a lot about football, you don't really show any more knowledge than the poster off the street you object to; same hyperbole and slanted viewpoints.
|2 days 14 hours ago||So by that reasoning||
Everyone who says spread teams can't defend MANBALL offenses because they don't get to play against regularly are right then?
Because both sound kinda silly.
|2 days 14 hours ago||That IS good.||
Bowling only goes to 100, right?
|2 days 14 hours ago||Let me be clear||
I didn't think you were. I just don't want us coming off as sounding as the whiny fanbase blaming the refs. There ARE calls that cost you games, completely and for sure. I'll complain about those. These were just awful calls that went against us. And nothing THAT bad that seemed to go against OSU. But overall I'm actually surprised that the calls weren't more slanted, because with the perception of the B10 right now, they must really want OSU in that title game. (Even before knowing what Auburn was going to do). I think if anything, you'll see MSU get completely hosed this weekend, because where is the downside for the B10? OSU goes and plays for the title, and MSU probably still gets their first Rose Bowl trip in generations. And the x2 BCS money. All the downside for the conference is with MSU winning. Should be interestting to see.
|2 days 14 hours ago||3 yards, 1 play.||
That's why it's still killing me. It doesn't matter that much for this year. But man, does it change the course of perception going forward if we could just be the team that has that 2 point play succeed. Flips the numbers, and gives the program one of the all time big upsets. Instead it's another close call that will be forgotten.
|2 days 14 hours ago||I'm not blaming this one on the refs.||
We had our chances and, painfully, fell just short. There was some back and forth on calls that hurt teams. But those were the two that just stood out as blindingly obvious how-do-you-miss those calls. There's a lot of holding on both sides that get missed. But as you point it out, on the edge, hanging onto the guy from behind, in a lot of space, gets called every time. Except that one.
Unrelated, but not worth a completely new post, I'm fine with the no FG/4th down calls. If you kick the FG the first time it doesn't mean you have 3 more points at the end. Because when 4th and 2 comes up again, and you get it (and a TD later) you're instead kicking it for 3 to make it a 1 pt/8 pt game. So the difference in the game would be we're going for 2 at the end not to win, but to tie. Which makes it less ballsy, and doesn't change the outcome but for losing by one more point.
|2 days 15 hours ago||That a dozen people are||
That a dozen people are asking you how they should feel is all kinds of disturbing, and not at all on your end, but theirs.
Edit: Could we also get just one middle finger for the hold that everyone in the stadium except the guys with the flag saw on OSU's last TD scoring drive, which resulted in a throw away for no gain, rather than a big loss, and ended up as a TD for the bad guys?
|3 days 3 hours ago||I am somehow loving that imagery.||
Though I'm thinking more Dark Knight Rises. We all need to start chanting and see if he can climb out of the pit for all of us.
|3 days 3 hours ago||It was totally too precious.||
But I couldn't resist.
|3 days 3 hours ago||Didn't think of it till after..||
"Hey, wait a minute...the season IS done." And if it had been last week's episode this week, I wouldn't have thought of it at all. But without going into spoilers in THIS thread...wow, they did it.
|3 days 5 hours ago||So Akron ranked 1st with every other U-M win, right?||
Don't know how it coud be otherwise...
|3 days 5 hours ago||Yeah, 100 posts in a week||
Of one sentence concern trolling is getting old....
|3 days 5 hours ago||If we make the conversion||
It's not only a huge upset, but a storybook gutsy call that goes down in history. As it was, it was just a really good game.
|3 days 6 hours ago||Everyone remembers Funchess catching the TD||
No one remembers him dropping the pass that would have been a TD earlier.
I like my chances with Dileo's hands vs. Funchess.
|3 days 6 hours ago||Huh? We still scored.||
If we had done how you wanted it, there wouldn't have been any time for an onside kick or a FG try.
|3 days 6 hours ago||So if they win Saturday, you'll backtrack?||
So you wouldn't be happy with 24-0?
And Saban has lost games no more played close and still won the title. Heck, last time he wasn't SEC champ he was national champ.
You said championship teams don't play close games. You were wrong because the vast majority play close games to inferior competition. You're just trying to find some angle where what you said wasn't ridiculous.
|3 days 6 hours ago||Of the legit Super Bowl contenders this year||
Including the Patriots, Broncos, Saints, Seahawks, and 49ers (and maybe the Chiefs) only the Broncos and Chiefs have 1st round drafted QBs; neither drafted by the team they are on.
If you pass on a franchise QB it's bad, but only one, or two if the League is lucky, of those guys will be great. The rest are going to be bad picks of guys drafted too high because they're QBs.
|3 days 6 hours ago||Whole different meaning||
With that avatar.
|3 days 6 hours ago||No, what detracts from the site||
Is someone writing five paragraphs complaining about some post being negged in a system that hasn't existed for months and comparing it to the downfall of humanity. Pointing out how self-obsessed and stupid it is to worry about points that don't matter is all that's left when a response like that would have just had a -34 to show how to nt tke it all so damn seriously.
Take a look at your recent posts...I see a lot of snark in there; maybe you see yourself being an asshole. There are no real "value added" posts, because hardly anyone knows anything around here. It's for fun. Your knowledgable 2% chance to keep it close wasn't close. Doesn't mean you shouldn't have contributed it. Just means it wasn't really adding anything more than any other post.
|3 days 6 hours ago||Tons of OSU trolls in the OSU suspension thread||
But this guy uses ScUM so it should be an easy call
|3 days 6 hours ago||So Urban gets credit||
For the whole APR score when he's been around for less than two years of it? LOL
|3 days 11 hours ago||And if Devin had thrown it to Gallon instead of Dileo||
Their read would have lost the game for them. Kali's holds his block and Devin has time to go to option 2 and drops it in.
|3 days 11 hours ago||Funny thing is, we ran that play yesterday.||
It didn't work, but would have been a big gain with a good pass.
|3 days 11 hours ago||Hemingway just caught a TD||
Hemingway just caught a TD pass.
|3 days 11 hours ago||The thought of a||
Boneless pussy makes me sad.
|3 days 11 hours ago||"Championship teams don't have coaches that put the team in...."||
Yeah, Urban Meyer would never allow that.
He'd never be in a close game vs. a team he completely outmatched.
|3 days 11 hours ago||OSU was also out of timeouts.||
OSU was also out of timeouts.
|3 days 11 hours ago||LOL, you win the Internet today.||
Everyone saying that it doesn't matter that it was close, we still lost better not have complained about the Akron game.
Far cry from saying yeah, we have a lot to work n, but hey, better to learn in a win tan a loss. No moral victories embraces the black and white, not gray. So it should be consistent at least.
|3 days 12 hours ago||So much wrong with this post.||
Completely misquoting from the Rose Bowl. Misinterpretation of the lottery of one time events that have Meyer ending up at OSU. Total lack of understanding of college athletes.
|3 days 12 hours ago||If Rich's great offense||
Had ever put those numbers up vs. OSU in a losing effort, they'd have made him a red carpet of roses around here....and he'd probably still be the coach.
|3 days 12 hours ago||How is Iowa a bad loss?||
They're the 2nd best team in the division, on the road. And were ND and Minnesota really close? I'm not even sure U-Conn was even in real danger once we stormed back. But it was an awful half and 2nd half start. But in any case I don't see how a made 2 pt conversion, 4 down stop (where a penalty was missed), or a bunch of missed FGs is any less likely to flip than one play vs. the teams we beat.
And Brian may have used evidence to assess coaches when coming here. But by 2010 he was also ignoring a lot of evidence that was going against him at that point too. So he's not immune to bias.
|3 days 12 hours ago||It was pretty if you like defense.||
Knowing we had a banged up offense we played wet book bend but don't break, letting them get the yards if they had to, but not letting them get TDs. We broke one big plays and got TDs, even if our offense stalled the rest of the time. And our FG kicker made more than theirs...which really shouldn't have made it that close because their 3rd string guy comes in and makes every kick before the last one. If he falters like you'd expect any kicker deep on the bench to, it's never that close. And doesn't come to a debatable but correct call in OT. (And even if they called that TD it just meas we have to score a TD rather than kick the FG).
|3 days 12 hours ago||My undertanding of it is||
When you post something sounding like you're concerned and being helpful, but really you're just taking veiled shots at someone.
Section 1 used to be pretty good at it.
|4 days 2 hours ago||Yeesh.||
What DOES a guy have to do around here to get banned, anyway?
|4 days 2 hours ago||Game's over.||
Still no thread.
Motivations for it still sketchy.
|4 days 3 hours ago||Agreeing with your overall point.||
Though after the 1st down run I'd have liked to give it a shot, the game was heavily on the aggressive side of the ledger.
|4 days 3 hours ago||Would Boren||
Be high fiving the same plays?
|4 days 3 hours ago||Not that it really matters, I guess||
But did he letter?
Guess it could be some other school's jacket.
|4 days 3 hours ago||I'll just leave these here||
Your live coud be made a lot easier if there was a standard no joining the site on Gameday. Local fan, opposing fan, nothing good almost ever comes from it. Even after a win.
|4 days 4 hours ago||I will say||
Since YOU implemented the "new" policy of no more just "F this" posts, the site has taken a big step back in the right direction. It's that level of posting that has sunk things, not the disagreeing. I'm not sure that's what Brian meant considering the tone of his tweets...but I do know he's helped a great deal by being good at surrounding himself with good people.
Though you're completely wrong about one thing: the Queen of England sucks.
|4 days 4 hours ago||Alex Mitchell?||
|4 days 4 hours ago||I'm assuming because Adrian doesn't agree with #2||
And some people disagreed with him at the bowling alley or on the twitters.
|4 days 4 hours ago||Which makes it permissible.||
But also makes your interpretation of his reaction completely opposite of what he actually means. He's not decrying negativity and venting; he's endorsing it. And any negativity and venting that agrees with him. The only "negativity" that he thinks makes the blog a worse place is that directed at himself. And he's right; for himself that does make the blog a less comfortable place. But not at all in the way you were trying to explain it to TaiStreetsismyHero. He's perfectly ok with the stuff that makes the blog a worse place as long as it is on the same page as him.
Which you can point out is his right (duh), but doesn't make it right.
|4 days 4 hours ago||After those tweets, you forgot the rest||
"...unless it's Brian."
I mean, it sounds like he's defending venting and negativity. Not complaining about it. (Unless it's directed at him...then it's an obvious problem).
|4 days 5 hours ago||Except we went for it on 4th and 2 later, and got it.||
If we had kicked the first FG, we're kicking the 2nd to cut it to 1, and then te 2 point conversion at the end of the game is to tie.
So not going for the 3 ended up being meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
|4 days 5 hours ago||You didn't just call the fans fickle?||
Brian is going to have words for you...
|4 days 7 hours ago||Making life easy||
|5 days 11 hours ago||From your posts at least||
It doesn't sound like you've had any fun or perspective with Michigan Football, ever. Or sports period, for that matter.
|5 days 11 hours ago||Yeah, ask any fans from Texas||
Or any other school that has visited Columbus if they think all fans are the same.
And Ohio and ScUM aren't really equivalent. Unless Script Ohio, OH-IO, and the name of your Stadium have all secretly been insults and self-loathing all these years. It's more like TTUN.
And as of the latest rankings, if you think 8 spots is the same as around 25, whatever helps you sleep at night. Your pick of avatar was illustrative and appropriate.
|5 days 11 hours ago||What language was this in?||
Are you still pretending to be a Michigan fan?
|5 days 11 hours ago||Brian has found a business model that works for him||
But your last sentence...there are lots of jobs that involve breaking up drunken fights...in person...throwing people out of apartments, or getting called into work being on-call for various things. Hitting "delete" on your computer in your pj's is hardly putting yourself out there.
Besides, when was te last time Brian even read a game thread no more deleted anyone from one? Credit the unpaid mods for handling that nonsense.
|5 days 12 hours ago||TWSS?||
|1 week 2 hours ago||Let me guess-||
You're the guy who gives Walmart Wolverines their bad name?
|1 week 2 hours ago||Strange to point out||
When Koger and Martin originally committed to Lloyd...
|1 week 2 hours ago||The ones that made Brandon give a vote of confidence||
And say "if I fired Beilein I'd have to go it and find a coach to hire just like him."
|1 week 2 hours ago||Whoa, revisionist history.||
You weren't pointing out Harbaugh's lack of success to illustrate how bad in year three could mean in year four you break through. You were doing it to discredit his accomplishments. Even though he took over a program that went 1-11. To the extent that you spent half of their bowl game mocking them, until they started kicking Virginia Tech's ass. Don't act like you had any great understanding or appreciation of what he accomplished at the time. Using his trajectory to justify year four for Rich when you were using its total lack of impressiveness (to you) at the time to justify why he wasn't a good replacement for Rich is just silly.
|1 week 3 hours ago||Cam would not be very popular around here||
After the whole Pete Schmidt thing.
|1 week 3 hours ago||What crap.||
Hoke's "moderate intellect" has him at one of te top positions in his field making millions of dollars a year. Smart guy like you is far less successful and posting on a message board at 11 at night.
|1 week 11 hours ago||Hmmmm||
Might finally have a plan to make the OSU game watchable on Saturday.....
|1 week 12 hours ago||First of 500 times this will be posted||
But this might be as good a time as any while we're ornery to complain about how stupid it was for the Big Ten to cave and move the season a week deeper into the year so the players can't go home with their families and the students aren't around just so they can have their last game closer to the time people put in the final vote (even though it's not that far with a Big Ten title game now) which helped nothing at all because even a 2 year undefeated OSU team isn't getting into the title game unless someone else loses in which case the timing of their last game means nothing so the whole thing screws everything up for everybody with no tangible benefit.
|1 week 12 hours ago||Escalation.||
This got very dark very quickly.
|1 week 12 hours ago||Well, if his name is to be believed||
It's only the 13th. He's on a Doctor Who like pace. Though we can probably expect bouje14 a lot sooner.
I don't even dislike the guy. But one right after another there were F you for thinking this about Brian followed by an F Brian post. I mean, this isn't Nam, and that's not helping discourse.
You however are slacking. You haven't had negative points for ages.
|1 week 12 hours ago||How do you know what I did or didn't do||
When you just joined yesterday? /s
Of course I can deny it. Because it wasn't true. Did I argue that every apologist that everything was everyone else's fault but the staff's was silly? I'm sure I did. People were blaming the phase of the moon for the losing. The difference is now the company line is anything wrong is because of coaching and anything wrong then was because of everything but coaching. There is no "decimated defense" excuse for Borges. Nor should there be. So your memory of the board is faulty at best. There are a few people who say everything isn't Al's fault, but there's hardly anyone who would freak out if he were fired like over half the board (and more of the editorial crew) did then. And still do 3 years later.
And I'm guessing the firing of a coach because his record was FAR worse than the current staff's record probably had TONS to do with the recruiting class problems in 2011 than the people saying he was going to get fired. At least in that case, they were right.
Oh, and here's a couple of more.
I don't even have to look for them. They just keep popping up.
But westward....that wouldn't be on the coast, would it? You can stop hiding behind multiple accounts and just be honest and come clean on who you are.
And I'm still waiting for you to back up all these claims with some, you know, facts. But that's not your style, is it? (Please go look for me ever saying "FIRE RICH ROD!" like people are doing about Hoke...it'll keep you out of everyone's hair for days.)
|1 week 12 hours ago||Doesn't that get to the gist of this thread though?||
If message board posts aren't going to influence some 17 year old kid and his views on the program, are message board posts really going to get a message across to the athletic department that people are FOR REALZ going to give up their season tickets and leave swaths of empty seats? Maybe neither is noticed; maybe both are. But if I'm wondering if a teenager being recruited or Dave Brandon are going to take the message a lot more seriously, I know which one I'm picking.
And in either case no one wants to hear it repeated over and over again.
|1 week 12 hours ago||It's not that your posting history ruins the topic||
It's just on this one thing it's been said over and over, and no one really wanted to hear it the first time from anyone. It's not negative emotions about any one person; it's about the topic. If Steve R had posted it 1000 times and you had done it once, it really wouldn't be any different.
It may not be me, because I'm one who has tickets, but I think part of the reaction to those who are leaving, but not because they can't afford it, is saying it over and over comes off as kind of a humblebrag. "Look at my big PSL and all those tickets and how many years I've paid for them. Bah, I'm tossing it all away." When there are a lot of people who watch in front of the tv because they already can't afford to go to the games or get season tickets. And they'd jump at the chance if they could. Not because they can't find a way to get access to any tickets, but even if they could get tickets they couldn't dream of affording them. And they see people who do get into the stadium as having a priviledge. Something they wish they could have. And when we treat it like it really has no value just because we didn't win 2 more games or something, it makes us sound like we don't appreciate what they'd kill to have.
|1 week 13 hours ago||Adami started 12 games the year before.||
And Backus never went down; he played the whole year. Those guys didn't get switched over midseason or anything. And Hutch only ended up being maybe the greatest Guard of all time...at any level. So I'm not sure that was really average circumstances.
|1 week 13 hours ago||Hmmm...funny that a lot of the people posting that the bitching||
Will help influence the athletic department don't think that posting things will influence a 16 year old recruit. But anyway, that's not really directed at you.
While it might help get the point across, the better way to get the point across is to not renew, and let them know why you're not renewing. THAT will get some attention, if enough people do it. Claiming you will on a message board doesn't move the needle as much as taking your $$$ back. And yes, I believe MGrowold is going to do it. But him saying he will isn't going to get the attention of doing it.
So you're just hoping everyone else does it to get the point across so you don't have to stick your neck out and do the same. If you really want to get the message across though, and you so strongly believe in it you should become Section OnMyCouch next year, and tell them WHY they're not getting your money.
Just don't tell us endlessly on here about you doing it.
|1 week 13 hours ago||Hopefully it gets framed before the press conference||
Or it'll be kinda sooty.
|1 week 13 hours ago||They promised you the flying car too?|
|1 week 13 hours ago||I don't know that I completely agree with BiSB's 1st answer||
But I admire the clarity with which he illustrated his point.
On a completely different note, of all the jobs out there, is the most likely for Narduzzi really Purdue after the first year of their new coach?
|1 week 14 hours ago||You win the Internet today.||
The FTD thing put it over the top.
|1 week 14 hours ago||People hear what they want to hear.||
"somewhere we lost it. It’s my job to figure out where and get it fixed"
No one is going to give him any credit for doing the opposite of what Hoke got excoriated for on the front page; saying it's a good things fans are up in arms and passionate, even if it means they're calling for his head. And the whole brouhaha over him saying this team can play well on offense is obvious part of many sentences answering a question on if they can beat OSU and building up the confidence of what must be a pretty down group of players before the biggest game of the year.
Get on him for not doing his job very well, sure, but everyone need not turn everything he says into some personal affront.
|1 week 16 hours ago||Zingerman's SUCKS.||
Well, not really. But that's about all we're missing this week.
|1 week 16 hours ago||Can't take you out of the equation||
Because you've poisoned the well for everyone else by posting the same things over and over and over... If there are 1000 posts by one guy, and someone else posts it once, it's still the 1001st post on it, and no less annoying.
|1 week 16 hours ago||Yeah, I don't think anyone is getting any crap for saying||
"You know, things are just getting too expensive. I have a family to care for. I just don't think it's a wise investment anymore." Because, hell, it's NOT a wise investment. But most of it is "well, I find the games boring and we're losing and it's miserable and THAT is not worth that much money anymore." Which, heck, fine, do what you want with your money. But why does one think any of the rest of us care? Hey, I'm renewing my season tickets. I may even be trying to pick up another one this offseason while I can get it. Does anyone give a shit? No, I didn't think so. And if I posted this 100 more times, I know people would get annoyed by it. Has everyone posted it as often as the OP? No. But maybe because the OP has posted it so often others who do are getting blamed for compounding it.
If someone is leaving because they can't afford it, fine, sorry to hear, the Athletic Department sure hasn't made it easy for the fans. If you just aren't being entertained enough and you don't like the losing...then yeah, we don't care, and we're better off without you there. But we really don't want or need to hear about it.
|1 week 16 hours ago||Checking out the new rules||
From both sides of the Brian aisle-
|1 week 17 hours ago||It's true. I'm masochistic.||
Or for the most part there are a lot of interesting people that know how to have fun. Or at least there used to be. A number have left/been banned/avoiding the place. And certain people from the worst time of the blog came back out of the woodwork. So we're reliving the end of 2010 all over again. Once it seemed like people who care about the same thing sharing their hurt, not always in productive ways. But once was enough. I've discovered losing games always makes me feel bad. Wallowing in the cesspool this place becomes after a loss just prolongs it and makes one feel worse. I don't think people are really getting any catharsis out of it anymore. Just pushing more misery on each other.
The place also has sometimes educational, sometimes interesting value. But right now, is there ANY of that? Look at the full board post on the sidebar right now. Is there anything in there that is worthwhile, even in a silly way? Even the trying their best to be positive posts come off as treacly. And it's leaked into the front page with posts like this rather than the game analysis. It can, has been, and should be both....but it's swung a lot in one way. And that's from someone who doesn't think the UFR is a bible and falls asleep at Mathlete's information. But damn, this place, right now, is nothing but making each other feel worse. Which might be understandable. But not something I'm going to dive into as much anymore, and certainly not what I have come to enjoy about the blog.
And I know you're not saying anything contrary to me or anything. It just seemed like a good place to post it.
|1 week 17 hours ago||Say the guy who joined yesterday.||
So how many accounts have YOU had deleted.
These are the types of posts that say "I'm not saying fire the coach, but fire the coach."
Of which there are multitude.
But don't come back till you actually have some evidence for your claims. Or some honesty about your real track history here.
|1 week 17 hours ago||Just because I'm not willing to point out the obvious to you||
That you're too lazy to see for yourself hardly makes your case. You don't even have to leave this thread:
And that's just in this thread. Not the whole site. Or, as pointed out in the last one, sites a lot less reserved than this one. And also not counting all the shot of how he can't coach or do this and that which might as well being saying "FIRE HOKE!!"
And funny you should call out another poster as not being credible because he joined yesterday....when you joined yesterday. Guess we shouldn't take what you have to say as reasonabl or reflective.
Though you seem to have a really good knowledge of what's gone on here for years....hmmmm...you wouldn't happen to be someone who was banned and just had to come back someplace you weren't wanted? Yeah, that up's your credibility.
And please, go back and look for any time I posted "fire Rich." After it was done did I say I can see the reasons why it had to happen? Sure, But I didn't want us to fail to the point where we had to fire the coach. I don't want us to do so now, either. But Hoke has built up a better track record and if he can avoid losing these recruits, has built up a far stronger base. But even with all that next year will be a big year for him. But go back and find evidence of your made up musings. That should at least keep you busy for a good long time and stop you from posting nonsense.
|1 week 1 day ago||And he is not happy||
|1 week 1 day ago||Here you go||
Hot off the presses, hoping we lose, and not hardly alone. You can do the rest of your own homework.
|1 week 1 day ago||That wouldn't be good enough.||
See Oregon and Baylor.
Not sure how you can write that the same day and not see that fans are fickle.
|1 week 1 day ago||For those who are in the Peppers thread||
Saying "no one is saying Hoke will get fired, or rooting for it..." well, exhibit A where these things start.
|1 week 1 day ago||Did you even get through the subject line?||
Or make it to the "Tax your brain" line?
We get it, you don't like me and what I've said. But don't be disingenuous about it. And I'm not sure I get the disconnect between "new rules saying they'd be draconian about personal attacks" and "and banning those who don't agree with the site." If you think pointing out times I think the site is wrong is personal attacks, you have a strange definition of what is and isn't.
|1 week 1 day ago||LOL, this.||
But nobody wants to say they're contributing in any way. Say a recruit looks young and you're damaging the program. Say the coaches should be fired and having virulent rants on the front page, and that's not going hurt recruiting at all, nooooooooo.....
|1 week 1 day ago||I think on a base level||
You are both right. The former is kind of a much sadder statement on one's make up. I just found his reasoning for it flawed.
However, if you want to get into the literal effects on said player, the sticks and stones thing comes into play. It's worse now with social media, and the ability to directly contact people, rather than just ranting someplace like here. So it is heightened. But what harms the player more in their actually life? 140 characters from someone who can be blocked, or more and more people in your own stadium rooting against you making it harder for you to win one of the 4 biggest games of your college career?
|1 week 1 day ago||If you paid Ferrari prices for a rusty Chevy||
Knowing full well that it was probably going to be anywhere from a rusty chevy to a nice mid-sized sedan, with only a small chance of it being a sports car, isn't that really your fault?
Having said that, your comment on the EXEPERIENCE is completely valid. And if someone doesn't like it all enough to not buy tickets next year (and it really is Special K and not losing that's driving you off) then that's fine. Not everyone can afford to go to games, and that shouldn't be held against them. But how bad next year's schedule is really doesn't have anything to do with going to Ohio State this weekend or not.
I suppose you haven't sunk the other costs of going to the game yet, but then you already knew you could afford it because you didn't really say "I'll buy the season tickets, then figure out how I can actually afford going to the games later." Your problem is you thought the prize was always going to be that Ferrari. And there's still a chance that you'll win the fancy car, because if they pull off the major upset Saturday, people will be sorry they weren't there. But like any lotto ticket that's not really a high percentage.
But really, one doesn't work for the car dealership like they went to school here, one doesn't care about the dealership salespeople like they do kids playing a sport representing their school. If one wanst to treat all that strangers then one is not rebelling against college football becoming more professional; one is contributing to it.
|1 week 1 day ago||Isn't it the coach's fault||
For those players having awful things written about them? I mean, if they were winning they'd have great things written about them.
That line of reasoning doesn't really work.
|1 week 1 day ago||Hmm....if the new rules had any teeth||
The personal attacks would probably get you sent packing....
Seriously, is there ANYTHING you've ever disagreeed with Brian about? It's almost like you're a proxy account for him so he can be rude and act like he doesn't care what's said on the board.
And a even more simple economic concept- you've already calculated the cost and spent the money so you don't need the $60 back. So you're not making the deicision based on finances at all. By your reasoning almost all the teams in American should play to empty stadiums, because they're not winning enough. But that's not what being a fan really means.
If $60 means more to someone than supporting the players on senior day vs. their biggest rival, it either means you made some really bad financial decisions (or had a drastic life change that no one would blame them for), or yeah, you're fickle. If it's that horrible why are you going to be there? Not for product quality or the inability to recoup a little money. It must be something else...and that something else separates you from the fans who are being called fickle.
|1 week 1 day ago||The dong forest||
Just became a lot more scary.
|1 week 1 day ago||Apparently yes.||
But I'd say having to rejioin a place that banned you says a lot more about your issues than mine. Because name calling and making things up isn't arguing. And the next time you "make up" with anyone will be the first. It's a pot-kettle situation, because you didn't make up with anyone, you just disappeared yourself, and only came back for to try the rudest "I told you so's ever." I can't argue with you because you just make stuff up and keep repeating it. And there are too many like you around here now to make it worth my time. I was just glad your weird little obsession had transferred to Reader71 for awhile. Space Coyote and the Last Hoke and the others can tilt at windmills now if they want...but fighting stupidity is exhausting, and they'll tire of it soon enough.
But take a look, me saying someone should get banned hardly means they're going to get banned. If I point out what you say and it gets you banned, time to man up and look in the mirror. Hopefully you'll do that before you come back. Because we all know you'll come back. (Already have).
|1 week 1 day ago||Anyone who has seen this blog||
Both in comments and articles, and doesn't think fans are fickle are completely delusional.
And no one is out buying tickets for a "bad product." Everyone already bought the tickets, so there's no increase in cost...it's already sunk. People are now just choosing not to go to the game, and giving them to Ohio State fans (and as the prices show, not even getting their money back.) You don't want to pay for a ticket because the price is too high for the product? That's not fickle. Having already determined you can afford it and have purchased it but now decide you're not going to the game because it isn't meeting your expected standards? Yeah, that's fickle.
|1 week 1 day ago||The hilarious part is||
Just this season he wrote that we were bad at defending the spread because we don't play against the spread enough in practice.
|1 week 2 days ago||I think we're going to need a||
I think we're going to need a full moon to beat Ohio State....
|1 week 2 days ago||6. Stay away from co-eds.||
6. Stay away from co-eds.
|1 week 2 days ago||The traditional, non-3D poster was still free.||
And they're probably giving away the remainder of them because there's not much call for a schedule poster with 1 game left.
|1 week 2 days ago||Not that far off.||
|1 week 2 days ago||(No subject)|
|1 week 2 days ago||Look, I know you have issues||
And have delusionally made up things that never happened. That's your thing. That I'm avoiding people who have nothing but insults like you and get bent out of shape when someone fights back is more a sign how badly this site has deteriorated. Hateful people like you aren't worth my time.
But I'd hardly talk about posting trends when you disappeared for a year when things were going well then crawled back out from under your rock right when we started losing.
And learn what "literally" mean....
|1 week 2 days ago||Yeah, until you can get back some control of this site||
It's going to be a pretty awful place.
Because this is the level of posting the site is now at-
And when you let guys start and every post with insults, that's the level of discord you'll get.
|1 week 4 days ago||Most of the fans||
Like to parrot the words, but don't really follow up on it, ready to abandon "the team" the first chance thy get.
|1 week 4 days ago||I can only guess||
What body part of Rich's you're involved with...
|1 week 4 days ago||I feel no worse||
Than you did last week when your favorite team lost.
But that you spend your days planning this shit means you're right about one thing; you must be terribly sad and lonely.
|1 week 4 days ago||Exactly.||
The fact that His Dudeness can pull his act for 4 years and it goes unabated, but stating that if anyone had dogged on Rich last week (no one did; imagine the self control) it would have been deleted in a second but this thread created to just start a flame war is ok is hypocritical is a funny way to looking at things.
It's cowardly because you take your medicine and tand up and be counted when things aren't going your way, and just don't bring up things when it flip flops in your favor. If Rich is that on-topic, he was just as much last week.
|1 week 4 days ago||You're on MGoBlog||
Read last year's HTTV that showed Third and Long was full of crap.
|1 week 4 days ago||You do get it||
That we're rebuilding FROM Rich Rod, right?
|1 week 4 days ago||Three games. Including Arizona.||
And with Oregon and Stanford not looking so awesome, how great is the conference?
|1 week 4 days ago||Lost in all this is how this is a bad thing||
Because if OSU doesn't make the title game and goes to the Rose Bowl they've just been guaranteed a win. Heck, MSU even has a chance to win it now.
|1 week 4 days ago||This guy has needed to go for awhile||
And definitely needs to go today
|1 week 4 days ago||Says the guy||
Who has been here two weeks.
|1 week 4 days ago||Because there's no edit button for live speaking||
Like there is when you type "100 level speak class."
|1 week 4 days ago||Fun Fact:||
Not a soul had the courage to post anything about Arizona last week after we beat Northwestern and the Wildcats lost to mighty Wasington State.
|1 week 4 days ago||I wouldn't consider most of those guys impact players.||
(JT Floyd?) But Koger was a Carr recruit. (Rich recruit a TE??). Van Bergen who was a Carr recruit was much more of a factor that year than Roh. Martin was totally a Lloyd recruit. Otherwise you have to be consistent and then say Countess who you bring up was Hoke recruit.
And hey, he had Boren, Arrington, Manningham, (and Mitchell if you consider some of those guys impact), but couldn't keep any of them. Arrington would have stayed if he had someone to throw to him if Rich spent half as much time recruiting guys on the roster as guys who put Ohio State on probation.
Plus he ad a lot of pretty good defenders...but you don't want to talk about that.
|1 week 4 days ago||I loved te comment||
That Mani's is for the Prius driving crowd.
|1 week 4 days ago||Are you really||
|1 week 5 days ago||Isn't that percentage worse for Kwame?||
Considering he never should have been taking a shot more than 3 feet away from the basket....
|1 week 5 days ago||(No subject)||
|1 week 6 days ago||OK, 2 and 3 says it all....||
You're just delusional. Are you related to him?
He took a 9 win bowl winning team and won 3 games. Other than Denard and Lewan, almost all the other impact players on the 2011 squad were Lloyd's recruits. The chances of them fielding a defense good enough to win 11 games was the same as your blame level - 0%.
Because if you can't even bring up the defense, you're skipping the whole story. Ahhh...Bacon, is that you?
|1 week 6 days ago||Huh?||
Everyone here at the time thought the 5th to the 12th was taking TOO MUCH time. He fires Rich after talking with him and Rich having no answers about the defense or doesn't like the excuses. Tries to get Harbaugh. Wasn't it by Friday that week that rumors of Harbaugh to the pros were coming out? Learns Harbaugh's wife wants to stay put, Jim likes the NFL challenge. Turns to Brady, and on his way stops by Miles to placate that part of the fanbase. Likes what he hears from Hoke, checks him out, sets a press conference for the next week.
And it doesn't matter whether Harbaugh would leave Stanford for Michigan or not. It's the perception to the fans if it looked like we didn't even consider Harbaugh and he turned to the NFL when we hired someone else. Brandon is roasted and Hoke is DOA because "we should have hired Harbaugh!!!".....even though his family didn't want him coaching here.
|1 week 6 days ago||I think the fans wanted||
a team where winning 7 games was a low and not a high.
|1 week 6 days ago||If he had remained motivated?||
He was so motivated that he isn't in football anymore. What motivation did he have? You can't motivate someone to want to play a game they don't want to play. Boren was a dick, but he could motivate himself at least. This may be one of the dumbest things ever to appear on these boards. "If he stayed motivated..." where do you come up with this stuff...?
|1 week 6 days ago||Isn't this the guy||
Who had the exact same rumor of John to Michigan 3 years ago?
Where do people find this garbage? Oh, Chatsports, that's right.
|1 week 6 days ago||Again....slllllooooowwwwwlllllyyyy so you'll understand...||
How many of those were short yardage situations and how many were 3rd and 42? If you don't have that you're comparing apples to oranges, and your lame attempts have no weight to them. Thus...rant.
|1 week 6 days ago||The funny thing is||
The media and fans in Texas love it. Kinsler is declining, always injured, Fielder will hit better in their ballpark, allows them to bring up guys, puts them back into the playoffs, etc, etc.
So can a trade work out for both teams? Is someone kididng themselves? Or are both going to be disappointed?
|1 week 6 days ago||Well, they did go to the Final Four twice||
As freshmen and sophomores.
Do you think last year's basketball didn't win anything?
And while yes, they did beat mighty Seton Hall instead of Duke or NC in the final, they had the same coach that got us into trouble, a lot of the same shadiness over the program under Frieder, and the guy who hit the game winning shots who not only admits to also taking money, but has done a lot worse things than any of the Fab Five did.
I think we just don't want to shine the light too bright on them because we won't like what it shows about our squad that DID win it all.
|1 week 6 days ago||If he's so humble and unselfish||
Why does Jalen have a problem with him?
|1 week 6 days ago||Not saying it's anyone in this thread||
But I think there's a bit of undercurrent with his rankings. If he was a 5* NBA prospect who crashed everyone would be "can he play again???" But because he was a lower rated early commit that came before Beilein really started bringing in some draftable talent that there's some of "well, too bad he's hurt, but I'm sure we'll honor his education, medical reshirt him, and get someone else (better)."
If he can't play, I'll be glad to see him graduate from U-M. But if he can play too, so much the better. He earned the scholarship. And no one has said he's never going to be able to use it yet. So unless you're part of his medical team (and a really bad one where to comes to client confidentiality) it's just a lot of conjecture by people.
|1 week 6 days ago||Looking more and more like||
The Pistons didn't screw up by not taking Burke, but by not taking MCW.
|1 week 6 days ago||Oh, definitely.||
And the little edges of crust that get a little charcoal-y. Mmmmm.
And yes, I stopped by NYPD today, partly because of this thread.
|1 week 6 days ago||Wow, what an awesome historical grab.||
That game was a killer at the time, and no one knew how much more till a few weeks later. And as you say, maybe not for years later.
|1 week 6 days ago||Yeah, you nailed mine.||
I'd say if you could find one play that would have deifnitively won the 2006 OSU game that would have sent us out with a victory right after Bo's death, a shot at the title, and maybe Lloyd retiring on top rather than being asked to come back for one more year.
Some others to add:
1999 vs. Illinois snap over Brady's head, because he was going to lead us back after blowing that lead to victory, and that team would have most likely been playing for the national championship. And if we could find a way to beat that stacked Bama team, we'd have had a shot there.
2001 vs. OSU, the Walker dropped TD pass. Lost by 6. Beat Tressel at home in his first game after the guarantee and who knows how that program goes.
The fingernails being a little longer in the Rose Bowl vs. Texas, blocked kick and we win another Rose Bowl/BCS game.
Maybe the timeout, though that would be no guarantee...but any play that wins the title for the Fab Five. The NCAA really only likes to hammer winners who don't win it all. They hate taking banners down from champions. So if we had won we'd still have gotten into trouble, but it wouldn't have been so bad, and major changes and self-flagellation and cratering probably wouldn't have happened.
|1 week 6 days ago||By the 3rd season||
It was kinda meandering all over the place. Seemed to have lost its direction a bit. Good enough show that wanted to be a great show but never really got there.
|1 week 6 days ago||It didn't even win best pizza||
In Washtenaw County....
Admittedly the first place one crammed their votes with Facebook pandering, but this place is so overrated. It's perfect for Ann Arbor crowds who like fancy dining wear for a slice of pizza that's over priced, and not really pizza but a chip with toppings. All the place around it on the county poll are better.
And for the record, while I love me some Anthony's Chicago Style, I voted for Zukey Lake Tavern, the best regular pizza around here.
|2 weeks 12 hours ago||How often do you watch a game||
And say any OC is just really out-foxing that guy? Or is it usually "man, they're making less mistakes/have a lot better players...."?
Every fan of every team thinks their coaches are being outcoached when they lose.
|2 weeks 12 hours ago||If they had fired Rich after OSU||
This place would have burned down. Most people here still wanted to keep him, and it wasn't till after the bowl game that it turned a bit. And we weren't hiring anyone before Stanford was done with their bowl game because Harbaugh wasn't taking any jobs till then. And if we had hired someone before Harbaugh was ready to go someplace, the hire (Hoke or whoever) would be DOA.
There might be some quibbling about post bowl game speed (What did they talk about for two days?) but the idea of firing a coach mid-season is revisionist history...and ignores how we had gotten a black eye from hiring Rich away before the bowl game just 3 years earlier.
|2 weeks 12 hours ago||At this point, do you really think||
Schofield is going to play in the NFL for years?
And can you imagine the uproar if they had instituted a complete pro-style from day one and cratered the 2011 season? They would never have gotten any traction.
|2 weeks 12 hours ago||Because Posada is out of football and no loss||
And Boren was All-Big Ten for our rival?
Come on, it's not that hard....
|2 weeks 12 hours ago||Over their career, maybe.||
I might not go with them just because Backus was a freshman that year. And Muransky and Harpring were good tackles, probably far better than Schofield, and the guys opposite them were beasts. I'd probably go with Runyan and Jansen looking at their NFL careers for the balance. But they were all probably better big dog-little dog than the current equivalent. Not that we don't have good tackles. But some of those guys were great and beyond.
|2 weeks 12 hours ago||Yes, because message board fans||
Aren't too emotional or invested in their beliefs like those athletes are.
Go take a look at the Mathelete post where the actual numbers of Michigan on 4th down have been posted a half dozen times but people are STILL saying this Michigan offense only had a 0.0% chance of converting.
Fans are emotional and cling to their beliefs just as hard. They just know a lot less about football, too.
|2 weeks 12 hours ago||Then you should have known||
That the percentage we've completed is much higher, and most of those 3rd down calls weren't in short yardage situations.
But don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant.
|2 weeks 12 hours ago||I Am Over 18"||
Onto what porn sites....?
|2 weeks 13 hours ago||How do people keep posting things||
Without reading a single post in the thread?
|2 weeks 13 hours ago||I'm with you.||
It's only been one week since the last time we've seen a hail mary work. When was the last time we saw the fire drill FG work?
|2 weeks 13 hours ago||There are more than one or two things he's done wrong.||
But you're stretching beyond reason.
If he had fired Rich Rod right away you'd probably be first in line to say "he didn't give Rich a chance in the bowl game!!!" and "How could he hire Hoke before Stanford played their bowl game and tried to get Harbaugh!!!"
RAWK music started with Rich and Martin.
The PSD things come out the same time every year. You don't stop mass mailings by what may or may not happen in the game the week before. This is just stupid.
Student section thing may be a debacle, but that's on the students for not listening. At least he's trying. They're not.
I'm not sure App State is that big a deal. But it certainly could be a negative. But blame the Big Ten.
Lots of people like the parachuters. They usually get a great reaction at the Stadium. Just because you have a stick up your ass doesn't make it a debacle.
The Beyonce halftime show was wildly popular. Why aren't you blaming the band for that? You think Brandon is choosing the set list? The lights were awesome.
The unretiring numbers is a great idea. Give people popular numbers, and actually makes people remember them. Now how they're assigned maybe could use some tweaking, but that's probably more Hoke's call than Brandon's.
There, cut your list way down. You can love him now.
|2 weeks 13 hours ago||Actually, it means he hasn't been trying to say this||
And if we can nip the really stupid posts in the bud, cliquishness is ok. (Like "i've seen no development from any of the young recruits...uh, other than all those guys Magnus mentioned...")
|2 weeks 13 hours ago||They are.||
|2 weeks 13 hours ago||Badgers?||
We don't need no stinkin' badgers.
|2 weeks 13 hours ago||Our defense...had given up late drives the previous two weeks||
Isn't that an argument to go for it? If you tie it with that much time left aren't they more likely to try and score and our defense would give up the game losing drive than if they have the lead and play it conservatively?
|2 weeks 13 hours ago||Go for it||
Northwestern gets it inside the 5. Miss the kick and the ball gets moved back out after the touchback.
|2 weeks 14 hours ago||Mack Brown won a National Championship||
And hired GERG. Twice. And Rich Rod hired GERG too. Were either of them ever "top five coaches?"
|2 weeks 14 hours ago||Yours seems the closest||
And I'm not sure how long it would take me to add up all my percentages, so I'll just comment here.
Rich Rod- there are a lot of holes. The fact that there were basically no tight ends on the roster after Koger (because he didn't need/want them) is compounding our Oline issues. But mostly what you say.
Dithering. I think they mean more "o-line switch, putting Lewan at TE" etc. Which yeah. I don't blame them for trying to implement the system at this point, because there aren't enough spread guys that it wouldn't just be negatively impacting the non-spread types. But I do think they need to identify things more quickly and stick with them.
Borges does seem to have a tendancy to run things into the ground without change. And there is this maddening flip flop of calling a game balls to the wall and then crawling into a shell. I might up the Hoke part of this because I do get the sense that Hoke wants to run more and a true Borges offense might involved a lot more passing.
Denard. For a program in a perfect world for now we'd have made Devin the QB and Denard an offensive weapon. But he probably would have left, everyone would have gone apeshit, and the program would be under fire. And Devin really wasn't ready to be a better QB a couple of years ago. So developing a system, yeah, it's put us behind the curve a bit. As what a program had to do for itself, its players, and PR it's EXACTLY what they had to do.
|2 weeks 14 hours ago||This was the most predictable||
This was the most predictable post, ever.
|2 weeks 14 hours ago||Not sure implementing it in year 1||
With a only freshmen really built for spread is quite the same thing as doing it in year 3 with a squad of split talents.
But in any case, 3-9 vs. 7-3 is why.
|2 weeks 15 hours ago||Just curious||
If you took out the highest and lowest marks in the array, does it change your average that much? (Say take out the outliers of Seth and Mathlete in "Rich Rod.")
And it's fun to match the jobs and backgrounds of the people and how they assigned blame. Seeing how Ace's recruiting bent influences things like "The Process" and "Rich Rod," etc....